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cass
11-23-2024, 12:56 PM
During this period, the best proxy for WHG will be probably Spain_SE_Meso:I10899.

The Georgian sample (Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%) clearly refers to later Turkish Neolithic farmers, but probably also other populations of the Fertile Crescent.
Therefore, it should not be surprising that Jews have almost 100% correlation. Western Georgia is thought to have been a refugium during the last LGM.

Due to the lack of better proxies, the closest sample for EHG will be Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%.
However, it appears also to be a sample drifted towards Siberia, hence the percentage will be much lower than in the case of Mesolithic Ukraine.



Solutrean people seem quite mysterious for now and are worth examining closely in the next and early periods. Since they correlate with the Basques and Saami, we have reached some primitive layer of native European population.

Target: Basque_Spain_Navarre
Distance: 11.6667% / 0.11666741
71.8 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
28.2 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%

Target: Saami_Sweden
Distance: 12.8912% / 0.12891206
42.0 Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %
33.8 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
12.6 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%
8.0 Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%
1.8 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
1.6 Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%
0.2 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%



Traditionally, Europeans, apart from otliners, fall into the Caucasus/EHG/WHG triangle. It is worth noting that there is a lack of Negroid and Far Eastern samples. However, for our needs, it does not matter much. Unless someone has a mixed background.


Ancient samples in chronological order

Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old2_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Co v_98.93%,0.027318,-0.070072,-0.021496,0.093024,0.00677,0.001673,-0.016921,-0.016153,0.034769,0.002916,0.014453,-0.003597,0.002676,-0.022708,0.011943,0.010077,0.001043,0.003547,-0.000503,0.019134,0.00549,0.012736,-0.008874,-0.023738,-0.00491
Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%,0.023903,-0.074134,-0.013953,0.091732,0.013233,-0.002231,-0.013866,-0.003,0.035587,-0.002734,0.020948,-0.000899,0.006987,-0.011973,0.011401,-0.001989,-0.000522,-0.002787,-0.005908,0.014882,0.003619,0.007666,-0.008134,-0.028679,-0.003353
Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV005.A0101__BC_2905 6__Cov_67.07%,0.055773,0.031481,0.038843,0.082365, 0.048624,0.008925,0.003525,-0.000231,0.058494,0.015308,0.005521,-0.014687,0.012042,-0.003165,0.020494,0.021347,-0.008866,0.00228,-0.003645,0.026888,0.02246,0.012736,-0.008627,-0.063744,-0.003473
Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV006.A0101__BC_2902 7__Cov_60.00%,0.055773,0.041637,0.042615,0.090763, 0.046778,0.004741,0.00987,0.005307,0.057471,0.0151 26,0.001461,-0.015586,0.003122,-0.007569,0.012079,0.025192,0.0103,0.004181,-0.005531,0.033391,0.031195,0.013725,-0.015406,-0.064467,0.001557
Austria_KremsWA3:I1577__BC_29000__Cov_18.95%,0.054 635,0.028435,0.035449,0.0969,0.049855,0.005299,-0.004465,0.001615,0.068311,0.009112,0.001949,-0.019932,0.020515,-0.02202,-0.000407,0.030628,0.017732,0.009628,-0.000503,0.03064,0.020838,0.008408,-0.010723,-0.072058,0.003233
France_Gravettian_Fournol:ORM001.B0101__BC_28952__ Cov_35.37%,0.045529,0.001016,0.017725,0.08398,0.04 2777,0.010598,-0.0094,-0.00923,0.056244,0.021868,0.006333,-0.006444,0.020664,-0.025735,0.014251,0.007425,0.018515,0.00114,-0.019357,0.033016,0.02009,0.009027,-0.009244,-0.058683,0.004071
Austria_Krems1_1:I2483_noUDG__BC_28900__Cov_57.06% ,0.055773,0.036559,0.032809,0.074613,0.053241,0.00 1952,-0.004465,-0.002769,0.057062,0.018953,0.006496,-0.013488,0.005203,-0.006606,0.014658,0.013657,0.001434,0.005068,-0.005531,0.023136,0.035687,0.00643,-0.017624,-0.07013,0.000359
Czechia_Krems_UP:I2484__BC_28900__Cov_29.64%,0.055 773,0.031481,0.033564,0.074613,0.059703,0.001394,0 .008225,-0.002077,0.061971,0.024966,0.002598,-0.025178,-0.000595,-0.002202,0.017644,0.020419,-0.005476,0.006081,-0.011941,0.026012,0.042051,0.013354,-0.021815,-0.066877,0.002874
Czechia_Vestonice16:Vestonice16__BC_27850__Cov_63. 38%,0.050082,0.022342,0.035072,0.085918,0.040007,-0.001952,-0.004465,0.002769,0.060948,0.024237,0.007307,-0.012589,0.010852,-0.009221,0.013029,0.013524,-0.009518,0.003547,-0.008045,0.023511,0.038931,0.007543,-0.01935,-0.064467,0.000838
Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%,0.056912,0.053823,0.064488,0.087856,0.080015 ,0.002789,0.0094,-0.011769,0.062993,0.023326,0.001299,-0.00015,0.019177,-0.013625,0.0057,0.019358,0.021383,0.014569,-0.012821,0.035642,0.031944,0.016322,-0.020089,-0.075794,0.006227
Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%,0.060326,0.039606,0.038843,0.079781,0.051702,0 .00753,0,0.001615,0.053994,0.016037,0.008607,-0.01109,0.013528,-0.010184,0.017779,0.019358,0.015385,-0.00114,-0.006159,0.034141,0.02845,0.003462,-0.013804,-0.063141,0.002634
France_Gravettian_Fournol:FRL006.A0101__BC_26787__ Cov_53.06%,0.040976,-0.00914,0.023759,0.098515,0.050471,0.009761,-0.011516,-0.002308,0.063198,0.014032,0.000812,-0.001499,0.009514,-0.014588,0.016015,0.019888,0.016298,0.012289,-0.009302,0.04077,0.024582,0.013725,-0.016762,-0.075553,-0.001676
Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1:Ostuni1_d__BC_25664__Cov_27 .38%,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941,0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%,0.037562,0.001016,0.029415,0.092378,0.051394,0 .004462,-0.007285,0.002077,0.057062,0.019499,0.009256,-0.021581,0.006392,-0.00812,0.012893,0.02201,0.01356,0.012922,-0.014832,0.048523,0.037808,0.00779,-0.01023,-0.073504,-0.001078
Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%,0 .062603,0.099522,-0.009428,-0.002261,0.029852,-0.017012,0.001175,-0.001846,0.03211,0.02606,0.007632,-0.011989,0.001635,0.012799,0.000271,-0.003182,-0.01343,0.004687,-0.007416,0.003377,0.026453,0.007172,-0.01479,-0.029281,-0.00012
Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%,0.07 057,-0.011171,0.050157,0.206398,-0.08894,0.059125,-0.062043,-0.06692,-0.029656,-0.078362,0.041734,-0.010191,0.020664,-0.052572,0.025244,0.026916,-0.019949,-0.007348,-0.002011,-0.004627,-0.031445,0.008779,0.018241,0.003494,-0.010059
Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%,0.09788 8,0.059916,0.114268,0.14632,0.112944,0.030399,0.00 5405,0.017307,0.089172,0.024784,-0.00747,-0.011989,0.008771,-0.010872,0.037866,0.045213,0.002217,0.012289,-0.00817,0.052025,0.084725,0.013725,-0.045725,-0.147129,0.019399
Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %,0.079676,-0.023357,0.037335,0.186695,-0.070475,0.046575,-0.047472,-0.054921,-0.020452,-0.06925,0.028743,-0.010041,0.015907,-0.044865,0.017372,0.023071,-0.007302,0.00228,-0.00352,-0.00025,-0.028699,0.00371,0.011832,-0.006989,-0.002155
Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%,0.0774,0.053823,0.038089,0.058463 ,0.058165,0.012829,-0.00141,-0.001154,0.052972,0.040639,0.018512,0.001499,-0.011298,-0.030552,0.018322,0.00716,0.004824,-0.002407,-0.009679,0.030765,0.02533,0.005812,-0.006655,-0.054948,0.009939
Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%,0.056912,0.024373,0.036581,0.069445, 0.060319,0.017291,-0.00705,0.003923,0.064834,0.035354,0.013316,-0.000899,-0.000595,-0.022432,0.020901,0.01538,0.002999,0.001267,-0.011187,0.029889,0.036436,0.009892,-0.014666,-0.080373,0.015807
Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%,0.047806,0.008124,0.042615,0.0801 04,0.061858,0.019522,-0.004935,0.002077,0.070765,0.031891,0.01023,-0.003597,0.003122,-0.018992,0.021172,0.018297,-0.001565,0.001394,-0.010056,0.035017,0.036935,0.008161,-0.022185,-0.089772,0.015807






It seems that due to the relatively small number of samples, there is no need to use an ADC.




Distance to: cass
0.14628339 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
0.15462747 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
0.16404354 Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%
0.16785462 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV006.A0101__BC_2902 7__Cov_60.00%
0.16879579 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV005.A0101__BC_2905 6__Cov_67.07%
0.17157050 Austria_Krems1_1:I2483_noUDG__BC_28900__Cov_57.06%
0.17703563 Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%
0.17799217 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1:Ostuni1_d__BC_25664__Cov_27 .38%
0.18043622 Czechia_Krems_UP:I2484__BC_28900__Cov_29.64%
0.18453058 Czechia_Vestonice16:Vestonice16__BC_27850__Cov_63. 38%
0.18601677 Austria_KremsWA3:I1577__BC_29000__Cov_18.95%
0.19173537 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%
0.20158651 France_Gravettian_Fournol:ORM001.B0101__BC_28952__ Cov_35.37%
0.21082979 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%
0.21201493 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.21758565 France_Gravettian_Fournol:FRL006.A0101__BC_26787__ Cov_53.06%
0.26010638 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%
0.26058411 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old2_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Co v_98.93%
0.26453174 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%
0.27544024 Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %
0.30359097 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%


Target: cass
Distance: 12.5226% / 0.12522564
70.0 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
16.2 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%
13.8 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%











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EasternLusitanian
11-23-2024, 01:29 PM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0965% / 0.09646369
86.8 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
13.2 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean

vader
11-23-2024, 01:40 PM
Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 9.2911% / 0.09291090
81.4 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
18.6 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean

Qemetiel
11-23-2024, 01:46 PM
0.14279740 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
0.14703811 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
0.16624059 Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%
0.17041834 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV006.A0101__BC_2902 7__Cov_60.00%
0.17153024 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV005.A0101__BC_2905 6__Cov_67.07%
0.17285448 Austria_Krems1_1:I2483_noUDG__BC_28900__Cov_57.06%
0.17986833 Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%
0.18115379 Czechia_Krems_UP:I2484__BC_28900__Cov_29.64%
0.18171241 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1:Ostuni1_d__BC_25664__Cov_27 .38%
0.18553814 Czechia_Vestonice16:Vestonice16__BC_27850__Cov_63. 38%
0.18950757 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%
0.19036348 Austria_KremsWA3:I1577__BC_29000__Cov_18.95%
0.20166986 France_Gravettian_Fournol:ORM001.B0101__BC_28952__ Cov_35.37%
0.21063748 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%
0.21469778 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.21964604 France_Gravettian_Fournol:FRL006.A0101__BC_26787__ Cov_53.06%
0.25948508 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old2_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Co v_98.93%
0.26093989 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%
0.26894894 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%
0.27696217 Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %
0.30402264 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%

Distance: 12.3978% / 0.12397849
58.0 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
28.0 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean
14.0 Russia_Denisova_UP

celticdragongod
11-23-2024, 01:50 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.14956081 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
0.15271161 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
0.17370695 Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%
0.17756850 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV005.A0101__BC_2905 6__Cov_67.07%
0.17761658 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV006.A0101__BC_2902 7__Cov_60.00%
0.18014681 Austria_Krems1_1:I2483_noUDG__BC_28900__Cov_57.06%
0.18830714 Czechia_Krems_UP:I2484__BC_28900__Cov_29.64%
0.18864984 Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%
0.18958451 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1:Ostuni1_d__BC_25664__Cov_27 .38%
0.19205360 Czechia_Vestonice16:Vestonice16__BC_27850__Cov_63. 38%
0.19593821 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%
0.19779950 Austria_KremsWA3:I1577__BC_29000__Cov_18.95%
0.20869464 France_Gravettian_Fournol:ORM001.B0101__BC_28952__ Cov_35.37%
0.21692721 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%
0.22125388 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.22603286 France_Gravettian_Fournol:FRL006.A0101__BC_26787__ Cov_53.06%
0.26368461 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old2_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Co v_98.93%
0.26500981 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%
0.27536079 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%
0.28017085 Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %
0.30650549 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 13.1069% / 0.13106929
60.0 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
22.4 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
14.4 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%
3.2 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%

tk'es
11-23-2024, 01:59 PM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 13.5457% / 0.13545725
83.2 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
16.8 Russia_Denisova_UP

R1b-L51
11-23-2024, 02:01 PM
HEMOS MAL ALMORZADO

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 9.0153% / 0.09015299
85.0 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
15.0 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.09203492 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
0.13867197 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
0.16709476 Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%
0.16723016 Austria_Krems1_1:I2483_noUDG__BC_28900__Cov_57.06%
0.17395864 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV005.A0101__BC_2905 6__Cov_67.07%
0.17424704 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV006.A0101__BC_2902 7__Cov_60.00%
0.17519337 Czechia_Krems_UP:I2484__BC_28900__Cov_29.64%
0.17587633 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1:Ostuni1_d__BC_25664__Cov_27 .38%
0.18091534 Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%
0.18207291 Czechia_Vestonice16:Vestonice16__BC_27850__Cov_63. 38%
0.18218985 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%
0.19434005 Austria_KremsWA3:I1577__BC_29000__Cov_18.95%
0.19822740 France_Gravettian_Fournol:ORM001.B0101__BC_28952__ Cov_35.37%
0.20601100 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%
0.21318819 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.22040603 France_Gravettian_Fournol:FRL006.A0101__BC_26787__ Cov_53.06%
0.25953245 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old2_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Co v_98.93%
0.26020074 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%
0.28698725 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%
0.31842001 Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %
0.34840250 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%

Rędwald
11-23-2024, 02:01 PM
Target: Rędwald
Distance: 11.3132% / 0.11313177
59.6 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
27.2 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean
13.2 Russia_Denisova_UP

Athalafuns
11-23-2024, 02:13 PM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 10.1936% / 0.10193574
77.8 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
21.2 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean
1.0 Russia_Denisova_UP

R1b-L51
11-23-2024, 02:16 PM
During this period, the best proxy for WHG will be probably Spain_SE_Meso:I10899.

The Georgian sample (Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%) clearly refers to later Turkish Neolithic farmers, but probably also other populations of the Fertile Crescent.
Therefore, it should not be surprising that Jews have almost 100% correlation. Western Georgia is thought to have been a refugium during the last LGM.

Due to the lack of better proxies, the closest sample for EHG will be Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%.
However, it appears also to be a sample drifted towards Siberia, hence the percentage will be much lower than in the case of Mesolithic Ukraine.



Solutrean people seem quite mysterious for now and are worth examining closely in the next and early periods. Since they correlate with the Basques and Saami, we have reached some primitive layer of native European population.

Target: Basque_Spain_Navarre
Distance: 11.6667% / 0.11666741
71.8 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
28.2 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%

Target: Saami_Sweden
Distance: 12.8912% / 0.12891206
42.0 Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %
33.8 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
12.6 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%
8.0 Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%
1.8 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
1.6 Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%
0.2 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%



Traditionally, Europeans, apart from otliners, fall into the Caucasus/EHG/WHG triangle. It is worth noting that there is a lack of Negroid and Far Eastern samples. However, for our needs, it does not matter much. Unless someone has a mixed background.


Ancient samples in chronological order

Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old2_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Co v_98.93%,0.027318,-0.070072,-0.021496,0.093024,0.00677,0.001673,-0.016921,-0.016153,0.034769,0.002916,0.014453,-0.003597,0.002676,-0.022708,0.011943,0.010077,0.001043,0.003547,-0.000503,0.019134,0.00549,0.012736,-0.008874,-0.023738,-0.00491
Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%,0.023903,-0.074134,-0.013953,0.091732,0.013233,-0.002231,-0.013866,-0.003,0.035587,-0.002734,0.020948,-0.000899,0.006987,-0.011973,0.011401,-0.001989,-0.000522,-0.002787,-0.005908,0.014882,0.003619,0.007666,-0.008134,-0.028679,-0.003353
Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV005.A0101__BC_2905 6__Cov_67.07%,0.055773,0.031481,0.038843,0.082365, 0.048624,0.008925,0.003525,-0.000231,0.058494,0.015308,0.005521,-0.014687,0.012042,-0.003165,0.020494,0.021347,-0.008866,0.00228,-0.003645,0.026888,0.02246,0.012736,-0.008627,-0.063744,-0.003473
Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV006.A0101__BC_2902 7__Cov_60.00%,0.055773,0.041637,0.042615,0.090763, 0.046778,0.004741,0.00987,0.005307,0.057471,0.0151 26,0.001461,-0.015586,0.003122,-0.007569,0.012079,0.025192,0.0103,0.004181,-0.005531,0.033391,0.031195,0.013725,-0.015406,-0.064467,0.001557
Austria_KremsWA3:I1577__BC_29000__Cov_18.95%,0.054 635,0.028435,0.035449,0.0969,0.049855,0.005299,-0.004465,0.001615,0.068311,0.009112,0.001949,-0.019932,0.020515,-0.02202,-0.000407,0.030628,0.017732,0.009628,-0.000503,0.03064,0.020838,0.008408,-0.010723,-0.072058,0.003233
France_Gravettian_Fournol:ORM001.B0101__BC_28952__ Cov_35.37%,0.045529,0.001016,0.017725,0.08398,0.04 2777,0.010598,-0.0094,-0.00923,0.056244,0.021868,0.006333,-0.006444,0.020664,-0.025735,0.014251,0.007425,0.018515,0.00114,-0.019357,0.033016,0.02009,0.009027,-0.009244,-0.058683,0.004071
Austria_Krems1_1:I2483_noUDG__BC_28900__Cov_57.06% ,0.055773,0.036559,0.032809,0.074613,0.053241,0.00 1952,-0.004465,-0.002769,0.057062,0.018953,0.006496,-0.013488,0.005203,-0.006606,0.014658,0.013657,0.001434,0.005068,-0.005531,0.023136,0.035687,0.00643,-0.017624,-0.07013,0.000359
Czechia_Krems_UP:I2484__BC_28900__Cov_29.64%,0.055 773,0.031481,0.033564,0.074613,0.059703,0.001394,0 .008225,-0.002077,0.061971,0.024966,0.002598,-0.025178,-0.000595,-0.002202,0.017644,0.020419,-0.005476,0.006081,-0.011941,0.026012,0.042051,0.013354,-0.021815,-0.066877,0.002874
Czechia_Vestonice16:Vestonice16__BC_27850__Cov_63. 38%,0.050082,0.022342,0.035072,0.085918,0.040007,-0.001952,-0.004465,0.002769,0.060948,0.024237,0.007307,-0.012589,0.010852,-0.009221,0.013029,0.013524,-0.009518,0.003547,-0.008045,0.023511,0.038931,0.007543,-0.01935,-0.064467,0.000838
Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%,0.056912,0.053823,0.064488,0.087856,0.080015 ,0.002789,0.0094,-0.011769,0.062993,0.023326,0.001299,-0.00015,0.019177,-0.013625,0.0057,0.019358,0.021383,0.014569,-0.012821,0.035642,0.031944,0.016322,-0.020089,-0.075794,0.006227
Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%,0.060326,0.039606,0.038843,0.079781,0.051702,0 .00753,0,0.001615,0.053994,0.016037,0.008607,-0.01109,0.013528,-0.010184,0.017779,0.019358,0.015385,-0.00114,-0.006159,0.034141,0.02845,0.003462,-0.013804,-0.063141,0.002634
France_Gravettian_Fournol:FRL006.A0101__BC_26787__ Cov_53.06%,0.040976,-0.00914,0.023759,0.098515,0.050471,0.009761,-0.011516,-0.002308,0.063198,0.014032,0.000812,-0.001499,0.009514,-0.014588,0.016015,0.019888,0.016298,0.012289,-0.009302,0.04077,0.024582,0.013725,-0.016762,-0.075553,-0.001676
Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1:Ostuni1_d__BC_25664__Cov_27 .38%,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941,0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%,0.037562,0.001016,0.029415,0.092378,0.051394,0 .004462,-0.007285,0.002077,0.057062,0.019499,0.009256,-0.021581,0.006392,-0.00812,0.012893,0.02201,0.01356,0.012922,-0.014832,0.048523,0.037808,0.00779,-0.01023,-0.073504,-0.001078
Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%,0 .062603,0.099522,-0.009428,-0.002261,0.029852,-0.017012,0.001175,-0.001846,0.03211,0.02606,0.007632,-0.011989,0.001635,0.012799,0.000271,-0.003182,-0.01343,0.004687,-0.007416,0.003377,0.026453,0.007172,-0.01479,-0.029281,-0.00012
Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%,0.07 057,-0.011171,0.050157,0.206398,-0.08894,0.059125,-0.062043,-0.06692,-0.029656,-0.078362,0.041734,-0.010191,0.020664,-0.052572,0.025244,0.026916,-0.019949,-0.007348,-0.002011,-0.004627,-0.031445,0.008779,0.018241,0.003494,-0.010059
Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%,0.09788 8,0.059916,0.114268,0.14632,0.112944,0.030399,0.00 5405,0.017307,0.089172,0.024784,-0.00747,-0.011989,0.008771,-0.010872,0.037866,0.045213,0.002217,0.012289,-0.00817,0.052025,0.084725,0.013725,-0.045725,-0.147129,0.019399
Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %,0.079676,-0.023357,0.037335,0.186695,-0.070475,0.046575,-0.047472,-0.054921,-0.020452,-0.06925,0.028743,-0.010041,0.015907,-0.044865,0.017372,0.023071,-0.007302,0.00228,-0.00352,-0.00025,-0.028699,0.00371,0.011832,-0.006989,-0.002155
Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%,0.0774,0.053823,0.038089,0.058463 ,0.058165,0.012829,-0.00141,-0.001154,0.052972,0.040639,0.018512,0.001499,-0.011298,-0.030552,0.018322,0.00716,0.004824,-0.002407,-0.009679,0.030765,0.02533,0.005812,-0.006655,-0.054948,0.009939
Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%,0.056912,0.024373,0.036581,0.069445, 0.060319,0.017291,-0.00705,0.003923,0.064834,0.035354,0.013316,-0.000899,-0.000595,-0.022432,0.020901,0.01538,0.002999,0.001267,-0.011187,0.029889,0.036436,0.009892,-0.014666,-0.080373,0.015807
Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%,0.047806,0.008124,0.042615,0.0801 04,0.061858,0.019522,-0.004935,0.002077,0.070765,0.031891,0.01023,-0.003597,0.003122,-0.018992,0.021172,0.018297,-0.001565,0.001394,-0.010056,0.035017,0.036935,0.008161,-0.022185,-0.089772,0.015807






It seems that due to the relatively small number of samples, there is no need to use an ADC.




Distance to: cass
0.14628339 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
0.15462747 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
0.16404354 Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%
0.16785462 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV006.A0101__BC_2902 7__Cov_60.00%
0.16879579 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV005.A0101__BC_2905 6__Cov_67.07%
0.17157050 Austria_Krems1_1:I2483_noUDG__BC_28900__Cov_57.06%
0.17703563 Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%
0.17799217 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1:Ostuni1_d__BC_25664__Cov_27 .38%
0.18043622 Czechia_Krems_UP:I2484__BC_28900__Cov_29.64%
0.18453058 Czechia_Vestonice16:Vestonice16__BC_27850__Cov_63. 38%
0.18601677 Austria_KremsWA3:I1577__BC_29000__Cov_18.95%
0.19173537 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%
0.20158651 France_Gravettian_Fournol:ORM001.B0101__BC_28952__ Cov_35.37%
0.21082979 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%
0.21201493 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.21758565 France_Gravettian_Fournol:FRL006.A0101__BC_26787__ Cov_53.06%
0.26010638 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%
0.26058411 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old2_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Co v_98.93%
0.26453174 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%
0.27544024 Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %
0.30359097 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%


Target: cass
Distance: 12.5226% / 0.12522564
70.0 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
16.2 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%
13.8 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%











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Later periods >

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?390342-20000BC-12500BC-model-Late-Upper-Paleolithic
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?390332-12500BC-8500BC-model-Pre-Pottery-Neolithic-A-(PPNA)
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?390210-8500BC-7500BC-model-Mesolithic-Europe-part-II
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?390205-7500BC-6500BC-model-Mesolithic-Europe
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https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?390059-1000AD-1200AD-model-High-Medieval-Period

Davidski G25 Standard model

Target: Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
Distance: 3.2586% / 0.03258572
30.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
18.8 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
18.6 WHG
13.6 Levant_PPNB
8.4 Jarawa
5.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
2.6 ETH_4500BP
1.4 Gambian
0.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.4 MAR_Taforalt

cass
11-23-2024, 02:28 PM
Davidski G25 Standard model

Target: Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
Distance: 3.2586% / 0.03258572
30.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
18.8 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
18.6 WHG
13.6 Levant_PPNB
8.4 Jarawa
5.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
2.6 ETH_4500BP
1.4 Gambian
0.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.4 MAR_Taforalt

I find such comparisons to much later populations very questionable. We are talking about thousands of years. I rather suggest comparing backwards.

Demirkazık
11-23-2024, 02:37 PM
Target: Demir
Distance: 10.0662% / 0.10066218
85.2 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
14.8 Russia_MA1_HG.SG

Target: Father
Distance: 10.2929% / 0.10292862
88.6 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
11.4 Russia_MA1_HG.SG

Target: Mother
Distance: 10.5179% / 0.10517947
83.8 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
12.4 Russia_MA1_HG.SG
3.8 Russia_Yana_UP.SG

Target: Grandfather
Distance: 10.7691% / 0.10769105
65.4 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
26.8 Russia_Yana_UP.SG
7.8 Russia_MA1_HG.SG

cass
11-23-2024, 02:40 PM
Correlations of Georgia_Dzudzuana with populations up to 8k BC. Apart from low-coverage samples, the main axis is Turkey and, more broadly, PPN.


Distance to: Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
0.12388444 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
0.13254798 Turkey_SE_Cayonu_PPN:cay007__BC_8401__Cov_46.34%
0.14702385 Turkey_AsikliHoyuk_EN_Preceramic.SG:Ash128__BC_806 8__Cov_96.73%
0.14980965 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%
0.15486184 Turkey_SE_Nevali_Cori_PPN:NEV009__BC_8065__Cov_43. 75%
0.15650162 Germany_Brillenhohle:Brillenhohle__BC_12867__Cov_1 .10%
0.15699973 Turkey_Boncuklu_N:ZHJ_BON024.A0101_Luk84__BC_8240_ _Cov_46.00%
0.15703022 Turkey_Boncuklu_N.SG:Bon002_noUDG.WGC__BC_8128__Co v_84.57%
0.15763269 Iraq_PPNA:I6445__BC_8750__Cov_25.61%
0.16163994 Turkey_SE_Cayonu_PPN:cay014__BC_8012__Cov_4.86%
0.16377266 Turkey_SE_Cayonu_PPN:cay027__BC_8266__Cov_1.91%
0.16551656 Turkey_SE_Cayonu_PPN:cay033__BC_8266__Cov_2.50%
0.16841256 Turkey_PPNA:I8432__BC_8750__Cov_13.58%
0.17097182 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%
0.17238653 Turkey_Epipaleolithic:ZBC_IPB001.B-C0101_Luk2-Pinarbasi__BC_13461__Cov_73.74%
0.17336842 Jordan_PPNB:I1414_enhanced__BC_8100__Cov_12.54%
0.17742893 Turkey_SE_Cayonu_PPN:cay1820__BC_8266__Cov_8.48%
0.17770212 Poland_Magdalenian_GoyetQ2:MAZ003.pmd__BC_13605__C ov_11.10%
0.18252409 Turkey_SE_Cayonu_PPN:cay022__BC_8266__Cov_4.11%
0.18268304 Jordan_PPNB:I1700_enhanced__BC_8100__Cov_10.72%
0.18346151 Iraq_Shanidar_contam:I3882__BC_8175__Cov_5.11%
0.19728955 Iraq_Shanidar:I2516__BC_8109__Cov_3.42%
0.19871110 France_Rigney:Rigney1__BC_13508__Cov_2.87%
0.20563422 England_UP_Magdalenian:Goughs__BC_12800__Cov_41.05 %
0.20866919 Israel_Natufian:I0861__BC_10750__Cov_9.65%
0.20882173 Belgium_UP_Magdalenian:GA231_GA247_merged__BC_1312 7__Cov_36.16%
0.21372474 Israel_Natufian_d:I1072_enhanced_d__BC_10750__Cov_ 10.34%
0.21424201 Belgium_UP_Magdalenian_udg:GoyetQ-2_udg__BC_13127__Cov_20.53%
0.21429532 Germany_Hohle_Fels_Magdalenian:HohleFels10_79__BC_ 12728__Cov_7.12%
0.22318811 Germany_HohleFels:HohleFels49__BC_13541__Cov_5.13%
0.25203888 Spain_ElMiron:ElMiron_d__BC_16825__Cov_54.50%
0.25405030 Iran_Belt_Cave_Meso_low_res:I2312_all_d__BC_10000_ _Cov_2.64%
0.25457020 Iran_HotuIIIb_Meso:I1293__BC_8850__Cov_3.38%
0.25472718 Ukraine_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO494__BC_8791__Cov_unknown
0.26175691 Russia_Afontova_Gora_LUP:AG2__BC_14817__Cov_7.41%
0.26585471 Ukraine_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO501__BC_8672__Cov_unknown
0.26659997 Iran_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1952__BC_8002__Cov_17.22%
0.26904623 Ukraine_Deriivka_Meso:ukr125__BC_8594__Cov_5.10%
0.27401696 Ukraine_Meso:VSL003__BC_8532__Cov_13.25%
0.27509915 Iran_GanjDareh_N:I1954__BC_8212__Cov_79.73%
0.27804007 Iran_GanjDareh_N:I1949__BC_8092__Cov_12.15%
0.27915019 Russia_Minino_Meso:Min5__BC_8580__Cov_14.94%
0.28091718 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%
0.28100689 Iran_GanjDareh_N:I1947__BC_8042__Cov_79.43%
0.28772469 Iran_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1946__BC_8050__Cov_13.94%
0.28899146 Belgium_Waulsort_Caverne_Meso:WCX002__BC_8527__Cov _8.56%
0.28922980 Ukraine_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO497__BC_8705__Cov_unknown
0.29039665 Ukraine_Meso:VSL002__BC_8532__Cov_42.57%
0.29126838 Ukraine_Mesolithic:I1733__BC_8250__Cov_21.98%
0.29135522 Ukraine_Meso_Vasilevka-I:NEO492__BC_8705__Cov_unknown
0.29320352 Ukraine_Mesolithic:I1819__BC_8708__Cov_69.16%
0.29329622 Ukraine_Meso:VSL004.A0101__BC_8532__Cov_28.26%
0.29331593 Ukraine_Mesolithic:I1763__BC_8131__Cov_70.72%
0.29573912 Ukraine_Meso_Voloshskoe:NEO527__BC_8974__Cov_unkno wn
0.30126190 Belgium_Waulsort_Caverne_Meso:WCX004__BC_8491__Cov _3.52%
0.30442148 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG:Sidelkino_noUDG.SG__BC_9371 __Cov_84.56%
0.30571500 Russia_Meso_Minino:NEO539__BC_8107__Cov_unknown
0.30613088 Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %
0.30732865 Russia_Meso_Peschanitsa:NEO202__BC_8903__Cov_unkno wn
0.30910164 Russia_Meso_Sidelkino:MN2002.A0101__BC_8712__Cov_5 8.74%
0.31015354 Russia_Meso_Sidelkino:MNN005.A0101__BC_8563__Cov_9 2.61%
0.31135663 Russia_Meso_Sidelkino:MN2003.A0101__BC_8583__Cov_5 5.09%
0.31438620 Russia_Meso_Sidelkino:MN2001.A0101__BC_8594__Cov_2 8.07%
0.31540748 Russia_Arkhangelsk_Veretye_Mesolithic.SG:PES001_no UDG.SG__BC_10761__Cov_94.61%
0.31673555 Serbia_Vlasac_LateMesolithic.SG:VLASA32.SG__BC_827 3__Cov_99.91%
0.31703912 Russia_Meso_Sidelkino:MNN007.A0101__BC_8957__Cov_1 6.17%
0.31979475 Russia_Meso_Sidelkino:MNN006.A0101__BC_8711__Cov_6 3.27%
0.32049182 Serbia_IronGates_Mesolithic:I5238__BC_8043__Cov_71 .45%
0.32415559 Spain_UP_Azilian:BAL051_merged__BC_11065__Cov_28.7 6%
0.32499446 Serbia_IronGates_Mesolithic:I5235__BC_8885__Cov_71 .30%
0.32711433 Serbia_IronGates_Mesolithic:I5242__BC_8580__Cov_72 .62%
0.32748754 Serbia_Iron_Gates_HG:I5241__BC_9248__Cov_70.97%
0.33099948 Serbia_IronGates_Mesolithic:I5236__BC_8088__Cov_71 .42%
0.33137093 Georgia_CHG:SATP.SG__BC_11332__Cov_59.30%
0.33145538 Serbia_IronGates_Mesolithic:I5244__BC_8835__Cov_70 .21%
0.33167571 Serbia_IronGates_Mesolithic:I5239__BC_8383__Cov_70 .22%
0.33724897 Serbia_IronGates_Mesolithic:I5240__BC_8855__Cov_70 .19%
0.33984479 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%
0.35252844 Denmark_Meso_Koelbjerg:NEO254__BC_8515__Cov_unknow n
0.35300145 Italy_Pradis_Late_Epigravettian:PRD001__BC_11043__ Cov_21.25%
0.35933112 Netherlands_Doggerland_Meso:DOG004__BC_8115__Cov_7 .65%
0.36041780 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF009_noUDG__BC_12271__Cov _16.98%
0.36491740 France_Rochedane:Rochedane__BC_11077__Cov_12.42%
0.37320712 Italy_Sicily_Late_Epigravettian:MA1863__BC_12846__ Cov_40.50%
0.37740737 Russia_AfontovaGora3:AfontovaGora3_noUDG_d__BC_160 86__Cov_23.09%
0.37843837 Italy_North_Villabruna_HG:Villabruna_noUDG__BC_120 71__Cov_72.05%
0.38689058 France_Ranchot88:Ranchot88_noUDG__BC_8184__Cov_33. 45%
0.38920593 England_Meso:Kendricks__BC_11905__Cov_38.63%
0.39049602 Germany_Late_Magdalenian_Oberkassel:OKL001.A0101__ BC_11995__Cov_63.43%
0.39215436 Belgium_Meso_Oberkassel:MPR001.A0101__BC_8516__Cov _90.26%
0.39263824 Belgium_Meso_Oberkassel:AAT001.A0101__BC_8891__Cov _92.08%
0.39417412 France_Farman_Meso:FRM001__BC_8174__Cov_9.30%
0.39643737 Italy_UP_Epigravettian_Tagliente:RIP001__BC_14786_ _Cov_45.19%
0.39726553 Germany_Late_Magdalenian_Oberkassel:OKL002.A0101__ BC_11507__Cov_59.14%
0.39739449 Italy_Sicily_LateMesolithic:UZZ5054_noUDG__BC_8711 __Cov_83.93%
0.40076131 Italy_Epigravettian_Villabruna:STO001.A0101__BC_11 512__Cov_56.66%
0.40213327 Italy_Sicily_Meso:I2158__BC_10050__Cov_5.34%
0.40219701 Russia_LenaRiver_LUP.SG:yak025_noUDG.SG__BC_14786_ _Cov_18.62%
0.40351888 England_Mesolithic:I6767__BC_8330__Cov_65.96%
0.40810823 Netherlands_Meso_Oberkassel:DOG002__BC_8329__Cov_1 9.97%
0.41226677 Morocco_Taforalt:TAF012__BC_12505__Cov_20.16%
0.41482763 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF013_noUDG__BC_12550__Cov _80.17%
0.41520613 Italy_Apulia_UP:Mura__BC_15084__Cov_91.66%
0.41785328 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF010_noUDG__BC_12699__Cov _64.50%
0.41831914 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF014_noUDG__BC_12550__Cov _77.96%
0.41833795 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF011_noUDG__BC_12500__Cov _83.83%
0.42042648 Italy_Mesolithic.SG:R11.SG__BC_9918__Cov_64.19%
0.42518996 Italy_Mesolithic.SG:R7.SG__BC_8756__Cov_95.96%
0.42546092 Italy_Epigravettian_Villabruna:AC16__BC_10824__Cov _75.72%
0.44682155 China_Guangxi_Longlin_Epipaleolithic:Longlin_1__BC _9567__Cov_18.44%
0.44859199 Russia_Siberia_UP:UKY001__BC_11979__Cov_71.29%
0.48962371 USA_Ancient_Beringian.SG:USR2.SG__BC_9475__Cov_13. 03%
0.49227780 USA_Ancient_Beringian.SG:USR1.SG__BC_9475__Cov_99. 95%
0.50640575 China_Fujian_Qihe_Epipaleolithic:Qihe3__BC_9614__C ov_56.27%
0.54149378 China_AmurRiver_LPaleolithic:NE56_noUDG__BC_17477_ _Cov_59.56%
0.55819174 China_AmurRiver_LPaleolithic:NE34_noUDG__BC_12571_ _Cov_43.67%
0.56381637 China_AmurRiver_LPaleolithic:NE5_noUDG__BC_12224__ Cov_39.53%
0.56935705 China_AmurRiver_Mesolithic:NE3_noUDG__BC_8678__Cov _45.59%
0.56985948 China_AmurRiver_Mesolithic:NE8_noUDG__BC_9313__Cov _30.14%
0.57112857 China_AmurRiver_Mesolithic:NE4_noUDG__BC_8607__Cov _44.75%
0.58822392 Switzerland_Bichon:Bichon.SG__BC_11748__Cov_99.08%
0.60409057 Brazil_Sumidouro_10100BP.SG:Sumidouro4_noUDG.SG__B C_8157__Cov_41.47%
0.60752085 Brazil_Sumidouro_10100BP.SG:Sumidouro6_noUDG.SG__B C_8120__Cov_70.40%
0.60839380 USA_Anzick:Anzick__BC_10762__Cov_98.57%
0.61246862 Brazil_Sumidouro_10200BP.SG:Sumidouro7_noUDG.SG__B C_8240__Cov_26.39%
0.63361178 Brazil_Sumidouro_10400BP.SG:Sumidouro5_noUDG.SG__B C_8422__Cov_99.70%
0.63874548 Brazil_Capelinha_10400BP:CAP007__BC_8473__Cov_30.5 3%
0.64446485 USA_Nevada_SpiritCave_11000BP.SG:AHUR_2064_noUDG.S G__BC_9012__Cov_99.89%
0.64739369 Chile_LosRieles_12000BP:I11974__BC_9935__Cov_70.55 %
0.64817656 USA_Spirit_Cave_11000BP:AHUR770c__BC_9038__Cov_7.5 8%
0.69806153 Malawi_Hora_LSA_15500BP:I19528__BC_13550__Cov_15.2 4%

unmoggable
11-23-2024, 10:19 PM
Target: unmoggable
Distance: 12.1535% / 0.12153540
65.8 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
21.2 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean
13.0 Russia_Denisova_UP

0.13601671 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
0.14898645 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
0.16867030 Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%
0.17326445 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV006.A0101__BC_2902 7__Cov_60.00%
0.17423396 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV005.A0101__BC_2905 6__Cov_67.07%
0.17477706 Austria_Krems1_1:I2483_noUDG__BC_28900__Cov_57.06%
0.18296312 Czechia_Krems_UP:I2484__BC_28900__Cov_29.64%
0.18352708 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1:Ostuni1_d__BC_25664__Cov_27 .38%
0.18410401 Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%
0.18799464 Czechia_Vestonice16:Vestonice16__BC_27850__Cov_63. 38%
0.19197735 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%
0.19384260 Austria_KremsWA3:I1577__BC_29000__Cov_18.95%
0.20362079 France_Gravettian_Fournol:ORM001.B0101__BC_28952__ Cov_35.37%
0.21366925 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%
0.21668193 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.22203410 France_Gravettian_Fournol:FRL006.A0101__BC_26787__ Cov_53.06%
0.25957346 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old2_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Co v_98.93%
0.26134789 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%
0.27607105 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%
0.28170650 Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %
0.30919987 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%

ScandinavianCelt
11-23-2024, 10:29 PM
Target: SC_2setAVE.IllustrativeDNA.Scaled
Distance: 11.7620% / 0.11762032
66.4 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
17.0 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%
10.0 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
6.6 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%

Target: SC_2setAVE.IllustrativeDNA.Scaled
Distance: 11.8071% / 0.11807124 | ADC: 0.5x RC
60.6 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
23.2 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
16.2 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%

Target: SC_2setAVE.IllustrativeDNA.Scaled
Distance: 12.7688% / 0.12768796 | ADC: 2x RC
56.0 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
44.0 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%

Gallop
11-23-2024, 11:28 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 9.9594% / 0.09959417
75.4 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
24.6 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 10.3945% / 0.10394454
80.2 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
19.8 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 10.0394% / 0.10039424
81.6 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
18.4 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean

Pater Patota
11-24-2024, 10:49 AM
Target: PP_scaled
Distance: 11.9786% / 0.11978552
92.4 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
7.6 Russia_Denisova_UP

Anatolya
11-24-2024, 08:19 PM
Target: Anatolya_scaled
Distance: 11.8687% / 0.11868653
92.8 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
7.2 Russia_Denisova_UP

Impaler
11-24-2024, 09:12 PM
Best distance for my father :)

Target: Father
Distance: 7.7407% / 0.07740691
87.4 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
12.6 Russia_MA1_HG.SG

Pedro Ruben
11-24-2024, 11:29 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 9.1245% / 0.09124495
88.6 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
9.2 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean
2.2 Russia_Denisova_UP

Fabricius
11-25-2024, 12:45 AM
Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 8.2407% / 0.08240747
90.6 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
4.8 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%
4.6 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%

***

The SSA sample didn't change much this time. Perhaps because of the aforementioned problem of different ages for each sample.
I don't know if the "proto-historic sample" from Congo is older or less old.

Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 8.2192% / 0.08219185
89.4 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
5.2 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
4.6 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%
0.8 Congo_Kindoki_Protohistoric:KIN002


An attempt with modern SSA sample:
(The objective failure was to discount ~5% of the calculation)

Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 8.2100% / 0.08209976
89.2 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
5.2 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
4.6 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%
1.0 Esan_Nigeria

***

Distance to: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
0.08472237 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
0.13866466 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
0.15805735 Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%
0.15912157 Austria_Krems1_1:I2483_noUDG__BC_28900__Cov_57.06%
0.16340229 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV005.A0101__BC_2905 6__Cov_67.07%
0.16481751 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV006.A0101__BC_2902 7__Cov_60.00%
0.16932044 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1:Ostuni1_d__BC_25664__Cov_27 .38%
0.16953026 Czechia_Krems_UP:I2484__BC_28900__Cov_29.64%
0.17306379 Czechia_Vestonice16:Vestonice16__BC_27850__Cov_63. 38%
0.17491722 Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%
0.17696482 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%
0.18344209 Austria_KremsWA3:I1577__BC_29000__Cov_18.95%
0.18721563 France_Gravettian_Fournol:ORM001.B0101__BC_28952__ Cov_35.37%
0.19947520 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%
0.20146807 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.20940188 France_Gravettian_Fournol:FRL006.A0101__BC_26787__ Cov_53.06%
0.24450160 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old2_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Co v_98.93%
0.24450306 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%
0.29107932 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%
0.30308946 Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %
0.33126044 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%
0.68863110 Congo_Kindoki_Protohistoric:KIN002

Eurafricanid
11-25-2024, 01:51 AM
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 9.9176% / 0.09917640
88.8 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
11.2 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean

Upsilander
11-25-2024, 08:24 AM
Target: Upsilander_Scaled
Distance: 13.6436% / 0.13643601
69.8 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
11.0 Russia_Denisova_UP
10.6 Spain_SE_Meso
8.6 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean

Lemurian
11-29-2024, 04:15 PM
Target: Lemurian_scaled
Distance: 11.2274% / 0.11227368
92.6 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
7.4 Russia_Denisova_UP

Distance to: Lemurian_scaled
0.11508826 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
0.17020945 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
0.18876209 Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%
0.19176891 Austria_Krems1_1:I2483_noUDG__BC_28900__Cov_57.06%
0.19405546 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV005.A0101__BC_2905 6__Cov_67.07%
0.19535151 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV006.A0101__BC_2902 7__Cov_60.00%
0.20166334 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1:Ostuni1_d__BC_25664__Cov_27 .38%
0.20214702 Czechia_Krems_UP:I2484__BC_28900__Cov_29.64%
0.20589227 Czechia_Vestonice16:Vestonice16__BC_27850__Cov_63. 38%
0.20642737 Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%
0.21109194 Austria_KremsWA3:I1577__BC_29000__Cov_18.95%
0.21114056 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%
0.21787936 France_Gravettian_Fournol:ORM001.B0101__BC_28952__ Cov_35.37%
0.23374135 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%
0.23417740 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.23962033 France_Gravettian_Fournol:FRL006.A0101__BC_26787__ Cov_53.06%
0.26646097 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old2_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Co v_98.93%
0.26733376 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%
0.30451665 Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %
0.31429205 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%
0.33398430 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%

tipirneni
11-29-2024, 04:18 PM
Target: dante-HW-sim_scaled
Distance: 19.1568% / 0.19156774
99.8 Russia_Yana_UP.SG
0.2 Russia_MA1_HG.SG

Distance to: dante-HW-sim_scaled
0.19156809 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old2_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Co v_98.93%
0.19974771 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%
0.25570870 France_Gravettian_Fournol:ORM001.B0101__BC_28952__ Cov_35.37%
0.26501429 France_Gravettian_Fournol:FRL006.A0101__BC_26787__ Cov_53.06%
0.27495770 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.27553861 Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %
0.27563434 Czechia_Vestonice16:Vestonice16__BC_27850__Cov_63. 38%
0.28254159 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV005.A0101__BC_2905 6__Cov_67.07%
0.28506952 Austria_KremsWA3:I1577__BC_29000__Cov_18.95%
0.28600269 Austria_Krems1_1:I2483_noUDG__BC_28900__Cov_57.06%
0.28895642 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1:Ostuni1_d__BC_25664__Cov_27 .38%
0.28896955 Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%
0.28995174 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV006.A0101__BC_2902 7__Cov_60.00%
0.29016412 Czechia_Krems_UP:I2484__BC_28900__Cov_29.64%
0.29174230 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%
0.29373934 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%
0.29572663 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
0.29998573 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
0.30873349 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%
0.33127360 Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%
0.42099126 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%

Voskos
11-29-2024, 04:25 PM
Target: vosk
Distance: 10.7748% / 0.10774777
100.0 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP

tipirneni
11-29-2024, 04:46 PM
Adding Bacho Kiro makes it more affinity than the Yana for me

Target: dante-HW-sim_scaled
Distance: 17.0689% / 0.17068911
65.6 Bulgaria_BachoKiro_LatePleistocene
25.8 Russia_MA1_HG.SG
8.6 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP

Balboa
02-11-2025, 09:21 AM
Target: Balboa
Distance: 11.7457% / 0.11745738
100.0 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP

Gannicus
02-11-2025, 02:57 PM
I find it quite astounding to have a distance that close to a sample that is over 23,000 years old.
If I'm not mistaken Dzudzuana is part of the ancestry of Natufians as well right?

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.13871696 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
0.14788085 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
0.17071785 Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%
0.17610588 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV006.A0101__BC_2902 7__Cov_60.00%
0.17646903 Austria_Krems1_1:I2483_noUDG__BC_28900__Cov_57.06%
0.17749961 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV005.A0101__BC_2905 6__Cov_67.07%
0.18410227 Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%
0.18489742 Czechia_Krems_UP:I2484__BC_28900__Cov_29.64%
0.18577538 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1:Ostuni1_d__BC_25664__Cov_27 .38%
0.18957761 Czechia_Vestonice16:Vestonice16__BC_27850__Cov_63. 38%
0.19148398 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%
0.19568439 Austria_KremsWA3:I1577__BC_29000__Cov_18.95%
0.20533415 France_Gravettian_Fournol:ORM001.B0101__BC_28952__ Cov_35.37%
0.21387457 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%
0.21934785 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.22400687 France_Gravettian_Fournol:FRL006.A0101__BC_26787__ Cov_53.06%
0.26354755 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old2_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Co v_98.93%
0.26638107 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%
0.27398862 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%
0.28861615 Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %
0.31538891 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.1250% / 0.12496493
61.6 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
27.9 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean
10.5 Russia_Denisova_UP

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.1249% / 0.12486334
64.5 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
21.4 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
10.9 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%
3.2 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%

cass
02-11-2025, 03:34 PM
I find it quite astounding to have a distance that close to a sample that is over 23,000 years old.
If I'm not mistaken Dzudzuana is part of the ancestry of Natufians as well right?

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.13871696 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949__BC_23540__Cov_16.14%
0.14788085 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
0.17071785 Italy_Gravettian_Vestonice:PA12__BC_26941__Cov_63. 52%
0.17610588 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV006.A0101__BC_2902 7__Cov_60.00%
0.17646903 Austria_Krems1_1:I2483_noUDG__BC_28900__Cov_57.06%
0.17749961 Czechia_Gravettian_Vestonice:DLV005.A0101__BC_2905 6__Cov_67.07%
0.18410227 Czechia_Vestonice43:Vestonice43_d__BC_27850__Cov_1 0.87%
0.18489742 Czechia_Krems_UP:I2484__BC_28900__Cov_29.64%
0.18577538 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1:Ostuni1_d__BC_25664__Cov_27 .38%
0.18957761 Czechia_Vestonice16:Vestonice16__BC_27850__Cov_63. 38%
0.19148398 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%
0.19568439 Austria_KremsWA3:I1577__BC_29000__Cov_18.95%
0.20533415 France_Gravettian_Fournol:ORM001.B0101__BC_28952__ Cov_35.37%
0.21387457 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%
0.21934785 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.22400687 France_Gravettian_Fournol:FRL006.A0101__BC_26787__ Cov_53.06%
0.26354755 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old2_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Co v_98.93%
0.26638107 Russia_Yana_UP.SG:Yana_old_noUDG.SG__BC_29900__Cov _99.92%
0.27398862 Spain_SE_Meso:I10899__BC_22500__Cov_40.02%
0.28861615 Russia_MA1_HG.SG:MA1_noUDG.SG__BC_22370__Cov_70.04 %
0.31538891 Russia_Denisova_UP:DCP1__BC_22750__Cov_35.76%

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.1250% / 0.12496493
61.6 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
27.9 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean
10.5 Russia_Denisova_UP


Quite possible. Or we don't have any distinctive sample in this period.

Gannicus
02-11-2025, 03:51 PM
Quite possible. Or we don't have any distinctive sample in this period.

Went back and looked. It looks like Natufians may have a Dzudzuana component but it's 10-20%. The majority admix seems to be Basal Eurasian ~50-65% and a WHG like component~20-30% maybe higher.

cass
05-06-2025, 07:42 PM
Wrong thread

chinshen
05-06-2025, 07:57 PM
My results:

139695139696139697

Gannicus
05-07-2025, 12:16 AM
These results I posted earlier are quite similar to my qpAdm results.

G25:

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.1250% / 0.12496493
61.6 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
27.9 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean
10.5 Russia_Denisova_UP

139705


I'm not sure if you have seen it Cass, but AndreiDNA modeled Natufians as 70% Dzudzuana ~30% Iberomaurusian. And I looked it up:

Example Model (from Lazaridis et al. 2018 & 2022):

A simple two-way fit:

~49–53% Basal Eurasian

~47–51% Dzudzuana-related ancestry