The four cores of the Spanish ethnotype

[Athalafuns]

I used all the Spanish samples here to see how they branch out from each other transhistorically. The resulting organum shows four well-differentiated nuclei, although sufficient continuity can be appreciated between two of them. Let's discuss it briefly.

https://i.postimg.cc/0QsBv2r7/1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

The lower core is the oldest. We see that there is no genetic rupture between the Neolithic and the Chalcolithic, but only a technological change. The arrival of the early Indo-Europeans marks a first clear genetic break, and it is also at this point that the peninsular population starts to become heterogeneous, with the southern Bronze Age cultures being closer to the Neolithic/Chalcolithic stratum. The Steppe conquerors fall outside this genetic group for obvious reasons, and thus we observe that there is a chronologically misplaced Chalcolithic outlier overlapping with the transition from LBA to EIA samples due to its Bell Beaker origin.

However, we can affirm that the entire course of the Iberian Bronze Age is very compact genetically speaking. Some phenotypes and genotypes from this era can be seen here (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?386630-Early-Bronze-Age-phenotypes-from-southeastern-Iberia).

Reaching the Iron Age we observe some important things:

I. The most decisive moment in the genetic history of contemporary Spaniards begins here, as a chronological range that encompasses strata from the Bronze Age and Middle Ages is compacted into a relatively small nucleus. This continuity must of course be attributed to the Basques. However, we see that other samples from the Iron Age and Roman Hispania are also around. As I have already explained on one occasion, modern Spaniards owe their genotype mainly to Roman rule (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?390281-Spanish-Ethnogenesis-G25-(v2)).

II. The arrival of extremely diverse outliers, from the Celtic-Germanic sphere, Africa and Levant.

The top place on our tree is occupied by some of these IA Indo-European outliers together with the first Visigoths, clearly differentiated from the Hispano-Roman population.

However, the greatest distance from the common trunk is found in the very interestingly shaped lateral nucleus. There we see the Mohammedan invaders relating to Aegean outliers and to a culture of the southeastern Bronze Age, which has already been genetically linked to the Eastern Mediterranean by some researchers. There are also some mislabeled Visigothic samples.

Below I leave to finish the place where the modern Spanish averages are located: at the extreme end of the Iron Age core, slightly approaching both the Visigothic and MENA orbits. That is the contemporary Spanish ethnic range and its phenotypic variability.

https://i.postimg.cc/zvfpDLNH/2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[R1b-L51]

I used all the Spanish samples here to see how they branch out from each other transhistorically. The resulting organum shows four well-differentiated nuclei, although sufficient continuity can be appreciated between two of them. Let's discuss it briefly.

https://i.postimg.cc/0QsBv2r7/1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

The lower core is the oldest. We see that there is no genetic rupture between the Neolithic and the Chalcolithic, but only a technological change. The arrival of the early Indo-Europeans marks a first clear genetic break, and it is also at this point that the peninsular population starts to become heterogeneous, with the southern Bronze Age cultures being closer to the Neolithic/Chalcolithic stratum. The Steppe conquerors fall outside this genetic group for obvious reasons, and thus we observe that there is a chronologically misplaced Chalcolithic outlier overlapping with the transition from LBA to EIA samples due to its Bell Beaker origin.

However, we can affirm that the entire course of the Iberian Bronze Age is very compact genetically speaking. Some phenotypes and genotypes from this era can be seen here (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?386630-Early-Bronze-Age-phenotypes-from-southeastern-Iberia).

Reaching the Iron Age we observe some important things:

I. The most decisive moment in the genetic history of contemporary Spaniards begins here, as a chronological range that encompasses strata from the Bronze Age and Middle Ages is compacted into a relatively small nucleus. This continuity must of course be attributed to the Basques. However, we see that other samples from the Iron Age and Roman Hispania are also around. As I have already explained on one occasion, modern Spaniards owe their genotype mainly to Roman rule (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?390281-Spanish-Ethnogenesis-G25-(v2)).

II. The arrival of extremely diverse outliers, from the Celtic-Germanic sphere, Africa and Levant.

The top place on our tree is occupied by some of these IA Indo-European outliers together with the first Visigoths, clearly differentiated from the Hispano-Roman population.

However, the greatest distance from the common trunk is found in the very interestingly shaped lateral nucleus. There we see the Mohammedan invaders relating to Aegean outliers and to a culture of the southeastern Bronze Age, which has already been genetically linked to the Eastern Mediterranean by some researchers. There are also some mislabeled Visigothic samples.

Below I leave to finish the place where the modern Spanish averages are located: at the extreme end of the Iron Age core, slightly approaching both the Visigothic and MENA orbits. That is the contemporary Spanish ethnic range and its phenotypic variability.

https://i.postimg.cc/zvfpDLNH/2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Frankly, I think that many of us believe we understand what you are saying, but it is a bit complex... so the arabs and vsigoths they arrived, but what the hell happened to other earlier from the Bronze Age?

I imagine that they are still surviving in our mix??

[Athalafuns]

Frankly, I think that many of us believe we understand what you are saying, but it is a bit complex... so the arabs and vsigoths they arrived, but what the hell happened to other earlier from the Bronze Age?

I imagine that they are still surviving in our mix??

The main conclusion is that between the Early Iron Age and the Roman rule, there happened the genetic shift that today's Spaniards represent, through a multitude of different people slowly but constantly coming to settle here. The Visigoths and the Moors did not contribute decisively to the Spanish gene pool, although some individuals may partially approximate them.

As for the Bronze Age, as you ask, it is more likely that your ancestors lived outside the peninsula in a significant percentage.

[R1b-L51]

The main conclusion is that between the Early Iron Age and the Roman rule, there happened the genetic shift that today's Spaniards represent, through a multitude of different people slowly but constantly coming to settle here. The Visigoths and the Moors did not contribute decisively to the Spanish gene pool, although some individuals may partially approximate them.

As for the Bronze Age, as you ask, it is more likely that your ancestors lived outside the peninsula in a significant percentage.

Well yes, it was always said that in the IA the Iberians encountered early Hallsttat manifestations who already knew iron and the chariot and who spoke proto-keltic languages. The Iberians mixed with them much or less (depends on the region) or simply adopted some of their techniques.
But finally thanks to the Romans they have finished being the same thing.