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Russki
12-18-2024, 11:23 AM
The genetics of Orthodox Estonians (Votes, Votians, Vots, Vods, Votic people) have been published for the first time.
https://sun9-63.userapi.com/impg/mJLP8hlVIUXKHLeIDZ_Gepq2mhkD3JmtTWjEBw/cRBDeLUJYiw.jpg?size=1080x457&quality=95&sign=dc6631f075c38485cd22d547e0727804&type=album

Multidimensional scaling plot

https://sun9-77.userapi.com/impg/_NQM0vPdv5RVoZCjI82dbu7wGWZ4kdPD4C4AzA/9mBKmkQ9pHU.jpg?size=2560x1812&quality=95&sign=73220d0d12c398fad3a83fa4e16b355f&type=album

PC1*PC2
https://sun9-32.userapi.com/impg/4mVU9i358hpTxZcKnIFnvJl7qqOEs7MI4Lk-Iw/tBd7VMWpqMw.jpg?size=1754x1733&quality=95&sign=2b9331731dfc4b3813e601b8265f39e7&type=album
PC1*PC3
https://sun9-32.userapi.com/impg/CHAmjIbQLSo3RHgQv9UruCS1WV7cAcbyETPSuA/Nfbd-8ey8z8.jpg?size=1760x1811&quality=95&sign=4360c7a8a38fc807e27d3da6136c05f6&type=album
PC2*PC3
https://sun9-47.userapi.com/impg/YNyMNMPY4_t48X_zjIXaaQPFUKEGhpn_e4Qaug/CQiZIeE6dN0.jpg?size=1788x1836&quality=95&sign=d43e25760855c352217674ca3d600751&type=album
https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4425/15/12/1610

Peterski
12-19-2024, 06:56 PM
What is the ethnic difference between Ingrians and Ingrian Finns? Are Ingrians Izhorians?

Edit:

Yeah I guess that what they labelled here as "Ingrians" are Izhorians (natives of Ingria).

Geba
12-19-2024, 07:00 PM
Basically, same as northwestern Russians. Because many northwestern Russians have Finno-Ugric roots, but due to massive assimilation, they consider themselves as Russian and "pure Slavic".

Russki
12-19-2024, 07:54 PM
Basically, same as northwestern Russians. Because many northwestern Russians have Finno-Ugric roots, but due to massive assimilation, they consider themselves as Russian and "pure Slavic".

There is no need to be ironic. Finnic component is basal to cca. 95% of ethnic Russians and it's very detectable with specific Eurogenes K36 components.

The authentic Slavic profile starts at 18+ distance on this list where Ukrainians and Belarusians start to appear.

The absorption of the Finnic component in Western Russia is 1500 years old so it is normal that people have a Slavic identity.

Distance to: Estonian
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5.92518354 Russian_Novgorod-Kabozha
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15.64198836 Russian_Pskov2
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18.09617915 Erzya
18.11019326 Russian_Smolensk
18.51013236 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
18.51609300 Russian_Belgorod
18.56277996 Lithuanian
18.70514368 Ukrainian_Dnipro
18.99481508 Ukrainian_Sumi
19.03102467 Belarusian
19.03881036 Moksha
19.36662335 Ukrainian_Rivne
19.36947857 Votes
19.45127502 Russian_Don_Cossack
19.77990647 Vepsian
19.77990647 Veps-National-Volost
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20.67102562 Ukrainian
20.79010101 Komi
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22.21903013 Veps_academic
22.22948942 Slovak
22.35736791 Ukrainian_Zhitomir
22.51030653 German_Farther_Pomerania
22.79090608 German_West_Prussia
22.82815148 Swedish_North
23.18796671 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
23.47695679 Czech_Bohemia
23.56796979 Czech
23.88688552 Slovak_2

ScandinavianCelt
12-19-2024, 09:42 PM
Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 3.2185% / 0.03218508 | ADC: 2x RC
51.4 Spanish_Lleida:MIQ133
48.6 Novgorod_Lyubytino:3