15 Thousand Years Ago by Tomenable / Peterski [Archive] - The Apricity Forum: A European Cultural Community

Peterski

01-01-2025, 12:02 AM

Check my new calculator, don't expect low distances because these are very ancient populations:

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

Alaska_Beringia_15KYA:USR1,0.039838,-0.301612,0.089755,0.088502,-0.087093,-0.016733,-0.125731,-0.155301,-0.015953,-0.026242,0.005196,-0.005245,0.010704,-0.007982,-0.008686,0.001326,0.001304,0.010135,0.006662,0.014 007,-0.008111,0.003957,0.004807,0.00494,0.00467
Americas_15KYA:Anzick,0.05122,-0.298566,0.11653,0.097546,-0.101557,-0.01255,-0.263682,-0.319371,-0.011044,-0.025331,0.005359,-0.003597,0.000743,0.01101,-0.010043,0.006629,0.007432,0.000887,-0.004902,0.003627,-0.004991,0.002102,-0.008504,0.000361,0.002515
Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001,0.114961,0.167562,0.0301 7,-0.08075,0.072629,-0.039881,-0.00047,0.000231,0.046836,0.083282,0.004222,0.0077 93,-0.02215,-0.011836,-0.041123,-0.003845,0.043027,0.00114,0.008799,-0.004252,-0.011729,0.006801,-0.006286,-0.010122,-0.007784
Caucasus_15KYA:KK1,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Caucasus_15KYA:SATP,0.081953,0.09546,-0.101445,-0.002261,-0.09848,0.015339,0.032666,-0.004154,-0.159529,-0.105332,-0.001137,0.030273,-0.073141,-0.000275,0.057274,-0.011005,0.08814,0.003927,-0.03595,0.060154,0.07075,-0.020155,-0.005669,-0.04832,-0.001197
Central_Africa(east)_15KYA:I19528,-0.575945,0.050776,0.001886,0.025517,-0.012925,-0.001116,0.190594,-0.134533,0.04929,-0.014943,-0.00065,-0.026227,-0.022894,0.005643,0.00285,-0.019225,0.026338,0.116934,-0.027151,-0.010755,-0.015972,-0.003586,0.004437,-0.007471,0.002515
Central_Africa(west)_15KYA:Shum_Laka,-0.601555,0.0573775,0.013199,0.0292315,-0.0043085,0.005857,0.123028,-0.0961115,0.011351,-0.006925,0.0006495,-0.0209065,-0.0191775,-0.0040595,-0.0004075,-0.002917,0.015255,0.0190665,-0.0028915,-0.002814,-0.0023085,0.001113,-0.0022185,-0.002892,-0.0007185
Central_Africa_15KYA:Mbuti,-0.647426,0.0591038,0.0254932,0.0374034,-0.001108,0.0066378,0.3663348,-0.293434,0.0177118,0.02985,-0.0089316,0.2198242,0.1264506,0.0010182,0.010342,-0.0014052,0.0009386,-0.0518664,0.014229,0.003727,0.0061144,-0.0018548,-0.0043878,0.0025304,-0.0006944
East_Africa_15KYA:TZA_KEN_HG,-0.539142,0.0446833,-0.0017597,0.0108743,0.001436,-0.0060427,0.1070867,-0.0886887,0.0636067,-0.0600167,-0.010447,0.003297,-0.0241323,-0.00367,0.0144317,-0.0152477,0.019297,0.0586993,-0.013282,-0.0051687,-0.008984,-0.0006183,-0.007477,-0.0062257,0.0021953
East_Asia_15KYA:NE34,0.012521,-0.439724,0.062979,-0.050065,-0.029852,-0.029284,0.003055,0.001385,0.010022,0.011299,-0.045144,0.004196,-0.000297,0.001514,-0.007057,-0.010475,0.004824,0.006968,0.006034,0.02051,-0.00025,-0.015333,-0.011832,-0.005302,-0.020597
East_Asia_15KYA:NE5,0.014797,-0.445817,0.062602,-0.041021,-0.03693,-0.031794,0.003525,0.003,0.011658,0.011116,-0.052127,-0.005845,-0.001338,0.003028,-0.003257,-0.00358,0.004303,0.005701,0.011061,0.009505,0.0104 82,-0.023494,-0.019843,-0.017352,-0.019759
East_Asia_15KYA:NE56,0.006829,-0.430584,0.016216,-0.049096,0.017542,-0.005299,-0.003055,-0.010615,-0.001432,0.006196,-0.036537,-0.007793,0.005352,-0.001789,-0.004886,0.000663,0.001825,0.00152,0.00088,-0.002501,0.015223,-0.01422,0.003204,-0.005904,-0.017483
East_Siberia:Ust_Kyakhta,0.0398382,-0.345534,0.0849465,0.0272128,-0.0781685,-0.0302595,-0.032549,-0.0388252,-0.0028122,-0.0047835,-0.0018268,-0.0024355,0.0021185,-0.020368,0.0023072,-0.0028508,-0.0056715,0.0012988,0.008736,0.012037,-0.0110742,-0.0031532,0.0006162,0.0044885,-0.007634
Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001,0.125205,0.049761,0.14 5569,0.207367,0.00677,0.058846,-0.013631,-0.011999,-0.001432,-0.071801,0.018675,-0.013038,0.033151,-0.043076,0.024022,0.026385,0.001434,0.002787,-0.004399,0.021135,-0.000624,0.020155,0.007888,-0.027353,-0.006107
Iran_15KYA:WC1,0.037562,0.072103,-0.165556,-0.016473,-0.11756,0.01506,0.017861,-0.003231,-0.071583,-0.046835,0.003085,-0.003147,0.00669,0.000688,0.022122,0.053036,-0.011735,0.001014,0.014581,-0.035267,0.009358,-0.023741,-0.006655,-0.032896,0.019998
Japan_15KYA:JpKa6904,0.006829,-0.33614,-0.058454,0.014535,0.041238,0.006414,-0.00423,-0.003231,0.02352,0.014397,-0.045956,-0.004046,0.006244,-0.009358,-0.02348,-0.012066,0.008345,0.015963,0.00993,-0.006503,0.060393,-0.047112,0.005793,0.003494,-0.094363
Levant_15KYA:Natufian,0.029025,0.1431895,-0.031301,-0.1393755,0.0350835,-0.079344,-0.017861,-0.019384,0.113613,0.005558,0.030042,-0.020532,0.075891,-0.0004815,0.0117395,0.0079555,-0.0107565,-0.0008235,-0.019169,0.0319525,0.0055525,-0.000371,-0.0017255,-0.0013255,0.0058675
Magdalenian_Center_15KYA:OKL001,0.121791,0.114755, 0.191954,0.186049,0.164338,0.048806,0.014101,0.036 922,0.097558,0.016948,-0.01023,-0.020532,0.02215,-0.006468,0.057003,0.063643,0.00352,0.006714,-0.006662,0.068533,0.108683,0.020774,-0.055092,-0.177013,0.021794
Magdalenian_North_15KYA:Goughs,0.0774,0.037575,0.0 6675,0.114666,0.078168,0.028168,-0.00235,0.017999,0.070765,0.029158,-0.008769,-0.006145,0.00773,-0.01734,0.040037,0.025722,0.007562,-0.002534,-0.004525,0.042145,0.057149,0.010881,-0.026129,-0.104352,0.008742
Magdalenian_South_15KYA:ElMiron,0.073985,0.044683, 0.101068,0.130493,0.110482,0.032909,0.00047,0.0092 3,0.0859,0.025149,-0.005684,-0.007343,0.01115,-0.010459,0.03488,0.039644,0.00339,0.004814,-0.016215,0.046772,0.066133,0.007914,-0.035865,-0.130741,0.011017
Magdalenian_West_15KYA:Belgium,0.070001,0.0360515, 0.0661845,0.1199955,0.0857085,0.017849,-0.0024675,0.006346,0.077821,0.0218685,-0.012666,-0.017085,0.0084735,-0.015689,0.042209,0.033081,0.0019555,0.00038,-0.0076675,0.0442085,0.057773,0.0027205,-0.033462,-0.1022435,0.010598
North_Africa_15KYA:Taforalt,-0.1972933,0.082935,-0.0212447,-0.0874253,0.031185,-0.058381,-0.0739497,0.0159223,0.159597,0.0014577,0.019703,-0.0339197,0.080822,-0.0517003,0.0682673,-0.0341637,0.010996,-0.067103,-0.1479887,0.0389353,-0.0412187,-0.1264553,0.0724287,-0.0144197,0.019439
North_Eurasia_15KYA:AG3,0.095611,-0.017264,0.082589,0.230623,-0.089863,0.044901,-0.062043,-0.080997,-0.033746,-0.09695,0.049853,-0.010191,0.02215,-0.073903,0.020358,0.020419,-0.013821,0.003801,-0.004274,-0.002626,-0.037184,0.015209,0.013804,0.008314,-0.005987
North_Siberia_15KYA:yak025,0.047806,-0.257944,0.073539,0.054264,-0.076014,-0.003347,-0.038777,-0.053767,-0.002863,-0.020957,0.011205,-0.001199,0.003271,-0.018304,-0.000543,0.004906,0.00013,-0.001267,-0.004399,0.003877,-0.016471,0.003091,0.007888,-0.009037,-0.019759
Northeast_Africa_15KYA:I5950,-0.515619,0.041637,-0.003394,-0.001292,-0.00277,-0.011713,0.054992,-0.052382,0.090604,-0.094581,-0.013478,0.003297,-0.031962,-0.001927,0.023615,-0.031291,0.031944,0.043454,-0.002388,-0.00963,-0.001248,0.00643,-0.005176,-0.003133,0.004071
Northwest_Europe_15KYA:Kendricks,0.114961,0.109677 ,0.19648,0.189925,0.156337,0.049921,0.026791,0.035 075,0.08815,0.009294,-0.012179,-0.013188,0.012339,-0.000138,0.053881,0.061389,0.005346,0.014823,-0.005908,0.065031,0.101696,0.018424,-0.056324,-0.182676,0.01892
Saharan_Africa_15KYA:Dinka1,-0.574807,0.045699,0,-0.007429,-0.00277,0.002231,-0.020211,0.020538,0.086105,-0.09859,-0.016076,0.027575,-0.039395,-0.001239,0.011808,-0.02559,0.01343,-0.013049,0.028911,-0.024262,0.003993,0.001237,0.008011,0.005422,0.009 939
Sahul_Continent_15KYA:AUS,-0.040597,-0.2254477,-0.2047767,0.2240553,0.1418725,-0.3258838,-0.0028592,0.0069998,-0.0061695,-0.0015793,-0.0058462,0.0015485,0.001759,-0.0012388,-0.0091387,-0.0016133,0.0043028,0.0010558,-0.0034357,0.0019175,0.0017885,-0.0011747,-0.0032662,-0.0018878,-0.00473
Sahul_Continent_15KYA:PNG,-0.0441635,-0.2425085,-0.2602638,0.3051715,0.2082853,-0.503323,0.000517,0.0054921,-0.0403457,-0.0130965,-0.0176677,0.0015383,0.0014075,-0.003101,-0.0003981,0.0006451,-0.0038592,-0.0012923,-0.0000253,-0.0004252,0.0023209,0.0015087,0.0024648,-0.0012372,0.0022116
South_Africa_15KYA:ZAF_HG,-0.6408243,0.05687,0.02577,0.0370373,-0.001231,-0.0036253,0.268147,-0.2059917,0.0117943,0.0157937,0.0073077,-0.0660413,-0.021407,0.005826,0.0249723,-0.017944,0.0321613,0.2937907,-0.095824,0.005086,-0.0344393,-0.003586,0.00304,-0.0037353,-0.00459
South_Siberia_15KYA:UKY001,0.025041,-0.31583,0.071653,0.028747,-0.063396,-0.024821,-0.043007,-0.050998,-0.00409,-0.007107,-0.002761,-0.001649,0.000297,-0.01679,0.002579,-0.005304,-0.001043,0.00266,0.007165,0.01088,-0.001373,-0.007048,-0.001725,0.010001,-0.004311
Southeast_Asia_15KYA:Hoabinhian,-0.025041,-0.224432,-0.11917,0.087856,0.022466,-0.001952,-0.003055,0.01223,0.060539,0.018406,0.012829,0.0011 99,-0.000446,0.006055,-0.007872,-0.006364,-0.00352,-0.00076,-0.005531,0.023386,0.006988,0.013107,-0.017131,-0.001325,0.003712
Southeast_Asia_15KYA:Leang_Panninge,-0.047806,-0.204121,-0.154997,0.17216,0.089863,-0.176259,-0.002115,-0.005769,0.02352,0.01221,0.002598,-0.005095,-0.000446,0,0.010315,-0.000398,0.005998,0.005321,-0.000377,0.010255,0.006863,-0.001607,-0.003821,0.003735,-0.007664
Southern_Asia_15KYA:AASI_Simulated,-0.0070176,-0.2472689,-0.2299763,0.1656382,-0.0353689,0.0643319,-0.0151889,0.0277276,0.1473805,0.1010641,-0.0046641,-0.0043335,0.0032289,0.0260319,-0.0477209,-0.0452003,0.0100937,0.0009062,0.0002451,0.0390401, 0.0094294,0.0240102,-0.0030685,0.0159835,-0.0108689
Southern_Europe_15KYA:Italy_WHG,0.1133676,0.108661 6,0.1948958,0.1949638,0.162061,0.0527102,0.0141946 ,0.038906,0.1008712,0.0219048,-0.013121,-0.0130084,0.015877,-0.0103494,0.0664758,0.0675944,0.003364,0.0118834,-0.0089246,0.0606042,0.1159704,0.012118,-0.0560778,-0.1861226,0.0214352
Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna,0.121791,0.11577, 0.18592,0.185726,0.156029,0.060798,0.017626,0.0415 37,0.093467,0.017859,-0.015752,-0.015886,0.020961,-0.005092,0.05361,0.064041,0.007562,0.004181,-0.00905,0.053401,0.099949,0.012489,-0.044123,-0.169904,0.018801
Southwest_Europe_15KYA:BAL051,0.101303,0.076165,0. 144814,0.163762,0.136641,0.042112,0.00235,0.032537 ,0.08999,0.02934,-0.012666,-0.009891,-0.001338,-0.016652,0.047909,0.050119,0.00013,0.006461,-0.008925,0.058528,0.092337,0.014838,-0.052997,-0.158095,0.012095
Taiwan_Strait_15KYA:Qihe3,-0.001138,-0.389963,-0.048649,-0.020026,0.090478,0.035977,-0.0047,-0.009,-0.012476,-0.007107,0.014777,0.000749,-0.009068,0.013212,0.004479,-0.006497,-0.004303,0.001014,-0.003897,-0.007003,0.015348,0.001484,-0.005916,-0.014339,-0.015807
Taiwan_Strait_15KYA:tai002,0.006829,-0.379808,-0.035449,-0.02907,0.119715,0.0502,-0.00094,-0.005769,-0.014112,-0.025695,0.03329,-0.001798,-0.016055,0.012799,-0.005157,0.010209,-0.005607,0.007855,0.00352,0.001376,0.024582,-0.003091,0.014666,-0.004579,-0.015567
West_Africa_15KYA:West_African_HG_Simulated,-0.693857,0.06452,0.0292866,0.030595,-0.003636,0.0222202,-0.0305968,0.0394146,-0.079397,0.033499,0.0035156,0.0028316,0.0147168,0. 0053334,0.0011988,-0.0013032,0.0092676,0.006106,0.0324162,-0.0109938,0.0040836,0.0235322,-0.0140118,-0.0004606,-0.0029534
Western_Europe_15KYA:RochedaneBichon,0.1195145,0.1 096775,0.184412,0.2000995,0.158799,0.057033,0.0123 38,0.0400365,0.099296,0.030069,-0.0134785,-0.021056,0.014197,-0.008739,0.0812285,0.091354,0.0099745,0.0166595,-0.0157125,0.0864165,0.156162,0.029306,-0.082268,-0.2782925,0.0228125

My results:

Target: Peterski_scaled
Distance: 7.0456% / 0.07045585
44.6 Anatolia_15KYA
43.0 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
12.4 Caucasus_15KYA

Gannicus

01-01-2025, 12:17 AM

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0690% / 0.06902389
50.4 Anatolia_15KYA
34.7 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
12.8 Caucasus_15KYA
1.9 Southern_Europe_15KYA
0.2 Levant_15KYA

Fistora

01-01-2025, 12:22 AM

Target: Oskar_scaled
Distance: 6.8054% / 0.06805355
47.2 Anatolia_15KYA
41.0 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
10.6 Caucasus_15KYA
1.2 Southern_Europe_15KYA

Pedro Ruben

01-01-2025, 12:55 AM

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 5.4680% / 0.05468005
50.8 Anatolia_15KYA
23.8 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
11.6 Caucasus_15KYA
8.6 Levant_15KYA
2.4 North_Africa_15KYA
2.0 Saharan_Africa_15KYA
0.8 Southern_Europe_15KYA

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 5.3995% / 0.05399480
53.2 Anatolia_15KYA
21.2 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
8.8 Caucasus_15KYA
6.0 North_Africa_15KYA
4.8 Levant_15KYA
2.6 Southern_Europe_15KYA
2.0 Iran_15KYA
1.4 South_Africa_15KYA

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 5.6240% / 0.05623998
56.6 Anatolia_15KYA
22.4 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
9.8 Caucasus_15KYA
4.2 North_Africa_15KYA
2.6 Southern_Europe_15KYA
2.2 Iran_15KYA
2.2 Levant_15KYA

Peterski

01-01-2025, 01:58 AM

Prepared by AimSmall from GA forum, this shows what populations from my 10 KYA calculator score in my 15 KYA calculator:

https://i.imgur.com/xqTeKkI.png - click to zoom in

https://i.imgur.com/xqTeKkI.png

hazmatnik

01-01-2025, 02:00 AM

Target: Nikola_scaled
Distance: 7.4690% / 0.07469011
55.0 Anatolia_15KYA
26.4 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
11.0 Caucasus_15KYA
5.6 Iran_15KYA
2.0 Levant_15KYA

celticdragongod

01-01-2025, 02:12 AM

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.20230969 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
0.21634034 Magdalenian_North_15KYA:Goughs
0.22570754 Magdalenian_West_15KYA:Belgium
0.23652412 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001
0.25628151 Magdalenian_South_15KYA:ElMiron
0.27700425 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
0.30002171 Levant_15KYA:Natufian
0.30541946 Southwest_Europe_15KYA:BAL051
0.33173876 North_Eurasia_15KYA:AG3
0.33476347 Iran_15KYA:WC1
0.34240290 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna
0.35149514 Caucasus_15KYA:SATP
0.35625584 Northwest_Europe_15KYA:Kendricks
0.35838112 Magdalenian_Center_15KYA:OKL001
0.37120243 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Italy_WHG
0.42983770 North_Siberia_15KYA:yak025
0.44353116 Southeast_Asia_15KYA:Hoabinhian
0.45549685 Western_Europe_15KYA:RochedaneBichon
0.48489310 South_Siberia_15KYA:UKY001
0.49408173 North_Africa_15KYA:Taforalt
0.50451467 Southeast_Asia_15KYA:Leang_Panninge
0.51173177 East_Siberia:Ust_Kyakhta
0.51634169 Alaska_Beringia_15KYA:USR1
0.52468252 Japan_15KYA:JpKa6904
0.55716725 Taiwan_Strait_15KYA:tai002

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 7.4873% / 0.07487338
47.2 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
39.8 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001
12.6 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
0.4 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna

Athalafuns

01-01-2025, 02:20 AM

Target: RNB27
Distance: 5.0179% / 0.05017924
54.8 Anatolia_15KYA
21.8 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
12.0 Caucasus_15KYA
4.2 Southern_Europe_15KYA
3.4 Levant_15KYA
2.2 Iran_15KYA
1.6 North_Africa_15KYA

RyoHazuki

01-01-2025, 06:50 AM

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 6.4842% / 0.06484157
50.0 Anatolia_15KYA
32.4 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
13.0 Caucasus_15KYA
4.6 Southern_Europe_15KYA

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 8.3734% / 0.08373362
45.6 Anatolia_15KYA
35.0 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
13.6 Caucasus_15KYA
3.4 Levant_15KYA
2.4 Southern_Europe_15KYA

Pater Patota

01-01-2025, 08:53 AM

Target: PP_scaled
Distance: 3.6051% / 0.03605074
36.0 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
27.8 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
21.2 Iran_15KYA:WC1
7.4 Levant_15KYA:Natufian
4.4 North_Eurasia_15KYA:AG3
1.6 East_Siberia:Ust_Kyakhta
1.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001

Mopi The Dire Wolf

01-01-2025, 08:59 AM

Target: Mopi2025_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 4.9861% / 0.04986063
57.4 Anatolia_15KYA
28.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
12.8 Caucasus_15KYA
0.8 Iran_15KYA
0.4 Levant_15KYA

Distance to: Mopi2025_simulated_g25_scaled
0.15331828 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
0.22407540 Magdalenian_North_15KYA:Goughs
0.23344999 Magdalenian_West_15KYA:Belgium
0.26208767 Levant_15KYA:Natufian
0.26553036 Magdalenian_South_15KYA:ElMiron
0.26899799 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
0.27427412 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001
0.31798163 Iran_15KYA:WC1
0.32016372 Southwest_Europe_15KYA:BAL051
0.34406770 Caucasus_15KYA:SATP
0.35859009 North_Eurasia_15KYA:AG3
0.36129281 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna
0.37487116 Northwest_Europe_15KYA:Kendricks
0.37629105 Magdalenian_Center_15KYA:OKL001
0.38907701 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Italy_WHG
0.43295863 North_Siberia_15KYA:yak025
0.43908082 Southeast_Asia_15KYA:Hoabinhian
0.46799472 Western_Europe_15KYA:RochedaneBichon
0.47306350 North_Africa_15KYA:Taforalt
0.48551309 South_Siberia_15KYA:UKY001
0.50000749 Southeast_Asia_15KYA:Leang_Panninge
0.51319446 East_Siberia:Ust_Kyakhta
0.51998825 Japan_15KYA:JpKa6904
0.52064895 Alaska_Beringia_15KYA:USR1
0.55452409 Taiwan_Strait_15KYA:tai002

Anatolya

01-01-2025, 09:03 AM

Target: Anatolya_scaled
Distance: 3.0028% / 0.03002759
37.0 Anatolia_15KYA
23.8 Caucasus_15KYA
20.4 Iran_15KYA
11.6 Levant_15KYA
5.2 North_Eurasia_15KYA
2.0 Eastern_Europe_15KYA

Dušan

01-01-2025, 11:13 AM

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 6.9373% / 0.06937265
53.2 Anatolia_15KYA
30.0 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
16.8 Caucasus_15KYA

cass

01-01-2025, 11:26 AM

Target: cass
Distance: 6.8593% / 0.06859348
43.6 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
38.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001
13.8 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
4.0 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna :cool:

Wend-Kruzek

01-01-2025, 11:48 AM

Target: WendKruzek_scaled
Distance: 6.9694% / 0.06969390
44.6 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
38.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001
15.0 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
1.8 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna

tk'es

01-01-2025, 12:02 PM

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 6.0112% / 0.06011179
50.2 Caucasus_15KYA
24.8 Anatolia_15KYA
10.6 Levant_15KYA
10.2 North_Eurasia_15KYA
2.2 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
1.8 East_Asia_15KYA
0.2 Iran_15KYA

Distance to: tk'es_scaled
0.15446782 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
0.21966357 Iran_15KYA:WC1
0.23371444 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
0.24519564 Caucasus_15KYA:SATP
0.27617999 Levant_15KYA:Natufian
0.29385703 Magdalenian_North_15KYA:Goughs
0.30256305 Magdalenian_West_15KYA:Belgium
0.31718135 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001
0.34524486 Magdalenian_South_15KYA:ElMiron
0.34801590 North_Eurasia_15KYA:AG3
0.39904363 North_Siberia_15KYA:yak025
0.40660557 Southeast_Asia_15KYA:Hoabinhian
0.40983842 Southwest_Europe_15KYA:BAL051
0.44998321 South_Siberia_15KYA:UKY001
0.45744537 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna
0.46708621 Northwest_Europe_15KYA:Kendricks
0.47152131 Magdalenian_Center_15KYA:OKL001
0.47812642 East_Siberia:Ust_Kyakhta
0.47871474 Southeast_Asia_15KYA:Leang_Panninge
0.48026407 North_Africa_15KYA:Taforalt
0.48321916 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Italy_WHG
0.48519654 Japan_15KYA:JpKa6904
0.48873050 Alaska_Beringia_15KYA:USR1
0.52337056 Taiwan_Strait_15KYA:tai002
0.52491518 Taiwan_Strait_15KYA:Qihe3

leachim_x

01-01-2025, 01:03 PM

Target: Micha_K36
Distance: 6.7038% / 0.06703835
49.6 Anatolia_15KYA
34.2 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
13.6 Caucasus_15KYA
2.6 Southern_Europe_15KYA

Distance to: Micha_K36
0.18674417 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
0.21738098 Magdalenian_North_15KYA:Goughs
0.22634135 Magdalenian_West_15KYA:Belgium
0.24774571 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001
0.25632499 Magdalenian_South_15KYA:ElMiron
0.27434267 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
0.29075392 Levant_15KYA:Natufian
0.30626976 Southwest_Europe_15KYA:BAL051
0.32974495 Iran_15KYA:WC1
0.34295867 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna
0.34300174 North_Eurasia_15KYA:AG3
0.34708836 Caucasus_15KYA:SATP
0.35673622 Northwest_Europe_15KYA:Kendricks
0.35879565 Magdalenian_Center_15KYA:OKL001
0.37190766 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Italy_WHG
0.43494838 North_Siberia_15KYA:yak025
0.44583507 Southeast_Asia_15KYA:Hoabinhian
0.45423944 Western_Europe_15KYA:RochedaneBichon
0.48926943 South_Siberia_15KYA:UKY001
0.49394070 North_Africa_15KYA:Taforalt
0.50535711 Southeast_Asia_15KYA:Leang_Panninge
0.51664104 East_Siberia:Ust_Kyakhta
0.52067345 Alaska_Beringia_15KYA:USR1
0.52583456 Japan_15KYA:JpKa6904
0.55855438 Taiwan_Strait_15KYA:tai002
0.56387690 Southern_Asia_15KYA:AASI_Simulated
0.56552731 Taiwan_Strait_15KYA:Qihe3
0.59629112 East_Asia_15KYA:NE56
0.60840386 East_Asia_15KYA:NE34
0.61462290 East_Asia_15KYA:NE5
0.62909703 Sahul_Continent_15KYA:AUS
0.63858301 Americas_15KYA:Anzick
0.68480738 Northeast_Africa_15KYA:I5950
0.70812710 East_Africa_15KYA:TZA_KEN_HG
0.73640918 Saharan_Africa_15KYA:Dinka1
0.76106717 Central_Africa(west)_15KYA:Shum_Laka
0.77033330 Central_Africa(east)_15KYA:I19528
0.80675576 Sahul_Continent_15KYA:PNG
0.84122225 West_Africa_15KYA:West_African_HG_Simulated
0.91042536 South_Africa_15KYA:ZAF_HG
0.95375979 Central_Africa_15KYA:Mbuti

Asega

01-01-2025, 02:04 PM

Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 7.0505% / 0.07050520
46.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001
38.8 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
14.0 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
0.6 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna

gixajo

01-01-2025, 02:39 PM

Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 5.5715% / 0.05571548
57.6 Anatolia_15KYA
19.2 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
12.2 Caucasus_15KYA
6.6 Southern_Europe_15KYA
4.4 Levant_15KYA

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 5.7480% / 0.05748014
55.0 Anatolia_15KYA
21.0 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
11.8 Caucasus_15KYA
6.0 Levant_15KYA
6.0 Southern_Europe_15KYA
0.2 Iran_15KYA

Celestia

01-01-2025, 02:43 PM

Target: Celestia
Distance: 6.7119% / 0.06711909
45.8 Anatolia_15KYA
29.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
15.0 Caucasus_15KYA
7.6 Southern_Europe_15KYA
2.0 Iran_15KYA

Peterski

01-01-2025, 02:46 PM

This is what I score if I remove PES001 from source populations:

Target: Peterski_scaled
Distance: 9.1072% / 0.09107157
45.2 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
23.4 North_Eurasia_15KYA:AG3
16.2 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna
15.2 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1

ScandinavianCelt

01-01-2025, 03:40 PM

Check my new calculator, don't expect low distances because these are very ancient populations:

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

Alaska_Beringia_15KYA:USR1,0.039838,-0.301612,0.089755,0.088502,-0.087093,-0.016733,-0.125731,-0.155301,-0.015953,-0.026242,0.005196,-0.005245,0.010704,-0.007982,-0.008686,0.001326,0.001304,0.010135,0.006662,0.014 007,-0.008111,0.003957,0.004807,0.00494,0.00467
Americas_15KYA:Anzick,0.05122,-0.298566,0.11653,0.097546,-0.101557,-0.01255,-0.263682,-0.319371,-0.011044,-0.025331,0.005359,-0.003597,0.000743,0.01101,-0.010043,0.006629,0.007432,0.000887,-0.004902,0.003627,-0.004991,0.002102,-0.008504,0.000361,0.002515
Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001,0.114961,0.167562,0.0301 7,-0.08075,0.072629,-0.039881,-0.00047,0.000231,0.046836,0.083282,0.004222,0.0077 93,-0.02215,-0.011836,-0.041123,-0.003845,0.043027,0.00114,0.008799,-0.004252,-0.011729,0.006801,-0.006286,-0.010122,-0.007784
Caucasus_15KYA:KK1,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Caucasus_15KYA:SATP,0.081953,0.09546,-0.101445,-0.002261,-0.09848,0.015339,0.032666,-0.004154,-0.159529,-0.105332,-0.001137,0.030273,-0.073141,-0.000275,0.057274,-0.011005,0.08814,0.003927,-0.03595,0.060154,0.07075,-0.020155,-0.005669,-0.04832,-0.001197
Central_Africa(east)_15KYA:I19528,-0.575945,0.050776,0.001886,0.025517,-0.012925,-0.001116,0.190594,-0.134533,0.04929,-0.014943,-0.00065,-0.026227,-0.022894,0.005643,0.00285,-0.019225,0.026338,0.116934,-0.027151,-0.010755,-0.015972,-0.003586,0.004437,-0.007471,0.002515
Central_Africa(west)_15KYA:Shum_Laka,-0.601555,0.0573775,0.013199,0.0292315,-0.0043085,0.005857,0.123028,-0.0961115,0.011351,-0.006925,0.0006495,-0.0209065,-0.0191775,-0.0040595,-0.0004075,-0.002917,0.015255,0.0190665,-0.0028915,-0.002814,-0.0023085,0.001113,-0.0022185,-0.002892,-0.0007185
Central_Africa_15KYA:Mbuti,-0.647426,0.0591038,0.0254932,0.0374034,-0.001108,0.0066378,0.3663348,-0.293434,0.0177118,0.02985,-0.0089316,0.2198242,0.1264506,0.0010182,0.010342,-0.0014052,0.0009386,-0.0518664,0.014229,0.003727,0.0061144,-0.0018548,-0.0043878,0.0025304,-0.0006944
East_Africa_15KYA:TZA_KEN_HG,-0.539142,0.0446833,-0.0017597,0.0108743,0.001436,-0.0060427,0.1070867,-0.0886887,0.0636067,-0.0600167,-0.010447,0.003297,-0.0241323,-0.00367,0.0144317,-0.0152477,0.019297,0.0586993,-0.013282,-0.0051687,-0.008984,-0.0006183,-0.007477,-0.0062257,0.0021953
East_Asia_15KYA:NE34,0.012521,-0.439724,0.062979,-0.050065,-0.029852,-0.029284,0.003055,0.001385,0.010022,0.011299,-0.045144,0.004196,-0.000297,0.001514,-0.007057,-0.010475,0.004824,0.006968,0.006034,0.02051,-0.00025,-0.015333,-0.011832,-0.005302,-0.020597
East_Asia_15KYA:NE5,0.014797,-0.445817,0.062602,-0.041021,-0.03693,-0.031794,0.003525,0.003,0.011658,0.011116,-0.052127,-0.005845,-0.001338,0.003028,-0.003257,-0.00358,0.004303,0.005701,0.011061,0.009505,0.0104 82,-0.023494,-0.019843,-0.017352,-0.019759
East_Asia_15KYA:NE56,0.006829,-0.430584,0.016216,-0.049096,0.017542,-0.005299,-0.003055,-0.010615,-0.001432,0.006196,-0.036537,-0.007793,0.005352,-0.001789,-0.004886,0.000663,0.001825,0.00152,0.00088,-0.002501,0.015223,-0.01422,0.003204,-0.005904,-0.017483
East_Siberia:Ust_Kyakhta,0.0398382,-0.345534,0.0849465,0.0272128,-0.0781685,-0.0302595,-0.032549,-0.0388252,-0.0028122,-0.0047835,-0.0018268,-0.0024355,0.0021185,-0.020368,0.0023072,-0.0028508,-0.0056715,0.0012988,0.008736,0.012037,-0.0110742,-0.0031532,0.0006162,0.0044885,-0.007634
Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001,0.125205,0.049761,0.14 5569,0.207367,0.00677,0.058846,-0.013631,-0.011999,-0.001432,-0.071801,0.018675,-0.013038,0.033151,-0.043076,0.024022,0.026385,0.001434,0.002787,-0.004399,0.021135,-0.000624,0.020155,0.007888,-0.027353,-0.006107
Iran_15KYA:WC1,0.037562,0.072103,-0.165556,-0.016473,-0.11756,0.01506,0.017861,-0.003231,-0.071583,-0.046835,0.003085,-0.003147,0.00669,0.000688,0.022122,0.053036,-0.011735,0.001014,0.014581,-0.035267,0.009358,-0.023741,-0.006655,-0.032896,0.019998
Japan_15KYA:JpKa6904,0.006829,-0.33614,-0.058454,0.014535,0.041238,0.006414,-0.00423,-0.003231,0.02352,0.014397,-0.045956,-0.004046,0.006244,-0.009358,-0.02348,-0.012066,0.008345,0.015963,0.00993,-0.006503,0.060393,-0.047112,0.005793,0.003494,-0.094363
Levant_15KYA:Natufian,0.029025,0.1431895,-0.031301,-0.1393755,0.0350835,-0.079344,-0.017861,-0.019384,0.113613,0.005558,0.030042,-0.020532,0.075891,-0.0004815,0.0117395,0.0079555,-0.0107565,-0.0008235,-0.019169,0.0319525,0.0055525,-0.000371,-0.0017255,-0.0013255,0.0058675
Magdalenian_Center_15KYA:OKL001,0.121791,0.114755, 0.191954,0.186049,0.164338,0.048806,0.014101,0.036 922,0.097558,0.016948,-0.01023,-0.020532,0.02215,-0.006468,0.057003,0.063643,0.00352,0.006714,-0.006662,0.068533,0.108683,0.020774,-0.055092,-0.177013,0.021794
Magdalenian_North_15KYA:Goughs,0.0774,0.037575,0.0 6675,0.114666,0.078168,0.028168,-0.00235,0.017999,0.070765,0.029158,-0.008769,-0.006145,0.00773,-0.01734,0.040037,0.025722,0.007562,-0.002534,-0.004525,0.042145,0.057149,0.010881,-0.026129,-0.104352,0.008742
Magdalenian_South_15KYA:ElMiron,0.073985,0.044683, 0.101068,0.130493,0.110482,0.032909,0.00047,0.0092 3,0.0859,0.025149,-0.005684,-0.007343,0.01115,-0.010459,0.03488,0.039644,0.00339,0.004814,-0.016215,0.046772,0.066133,0.007914,-0.035865,-0.130741,0.011017
Magdalenian_West_15KYA:Belgium,0.070001,0.0360515, 0.0661845,0.1199955,0.0857085,0.017849,-0.0024675,0.006346,0.077821,0.0218685,-0.012666,-0.017085,0.0084735,-0.015689,0.042209,0.033081,0.0019555,0.00038,-0.0076675,0.0442085,0.057773,0.0027205,-0.033462,-0.1022435,0.010598
North_Africa_15KYA:Taforalt,-0.1972933,0.082935,-0.0212447,-0.0874253,0.031185,-0.058381,-0.0739497,0.0159223,0.159597,0.0014577,0.019703,-0.0339197,0.080822,-0.0517003,0.0682673,-0.0341637,0.010996,-0.067103,-0.1479887,0.0389353,-0.0412187,-0.1264553,0.0724287,-0.0144197,0.019439
North_Eurasia_15KYA:AG3,0.095611,-0.017264,0.082589,0.230623,-0.089863,0.044901,-0.062043,-0.080997,-0.033746,-0.09695,0.049853,-0.010191,0.02215,-0.073903,0.020358,0.020419,-0.013821,0.003801,-0.004274,-0.002626,-0.037184,0.015209,0.013804,0.008314,-0.005987
North_Siberia_15KYA:yak025,0.047806,-0.257944,0.073539,0.054264,-0.076014,-0.003347,-0.038777,-0.053767,-0.002863,-0.020957,0.011205,-0.001199,0.003271,-0.018304,-0.000543,0.004906,0.00013,-0.001267,-0.004399,0.003877,-0.016471,0.003091,0.007888,-0.009037,-0.019759
Northeast_Africa_15KYA:I5950,-0.515619,0.041637,-0.003394,-0.001292,-0.00277,-0.011713,0.054992,-0.052382,0.090604,-0.094581,-0.013478,0.003297,-0.031962,-0.001927,0.023615,-0.031291,0.031944,0.043454,-0.002388,-0.00963,-0.001248,0.00643,-0.005176,-0.003133,0.004071
Northwest_Europe_15KYA:Kendricks,0.114961,0.109677 ,0.19648,0.189925,0.156337,0.049921,0.026791,0.035 075,0.08815,0.009294,-0.012179,-0.013188,0.012339,-0.000138,0.053881,0.061389,0.005346,0.014823,-0.005908,0.065031,0.101696,0.018424,-0.056324,-0.182676,0.01892
Saharan_Africa_15KYA:Dinka1,-0.574807,0.045699,0,-0.007429,-0.00277,0.002231,-0.020211,0.020538,0.086105,-0.09859,-0.016076,0.027575,-0.039395,-0.001239,0.011808,-0.02559,0.01343,-0.013049,0.028911,-0.024262,0.003993,0.001237,0.008011,0.005422,0.009 939
Sahul_Continent_15KYA:AUS,-0.040597,-0.2254477,-0.2047767,0.2240553,0.1418725,-0.3258838,-0.0028592,0.0069998,-0.0061695,-0.0015793,-0.0058462,0.0015485,0.001759,-0.0012388,-0.0091387,-0.0016133,0.0043028,0.0010558,-0.0034357,0.0019175,0.0017885,-0.0011747,-0.0032662,-0.0018878,-0.00473
Sahul_Continent_15KYA:PNG,-0.0441635,-0.2425085,-0.2602638,0.3051715,0.2082853,-0.503323,0.000517,0.0054921,-0.0403457,-0.0130965,-0.0176677,0.0015383,0.0014075,-0.003101,-0.0003981,0.0006451,-0.0038592,-0.0012923,-0.0000253,-0.0004252,0.0023209,0.0015087,0.0024648,-0.0012372,0.0022116
South_Africa_15KYA:ZAF_HG,-0.6408243,0.05687,0.02577,0.0370373,-0.001231,-0.0036253,0.268147,-0.2059917,0.0117943,0.0157937,0.0073077,-0.0660413,-0.021407,0.005826,0.0249723,-0.017944,0.0321613,0.2937907,-0.095824,0.005086,-0.0344393,-0.003586,0.00304,-0.0037353,-0.00459
South_Siberia_15KYA:UKY001,0.025041,-0.31583,0.071653,0.028747,-0.063396,-0.024821,-0.043007,-0.050998,-0.00409,-0.007107,-0.002761,-0.001649,0.000297,-0.01679,0.002579,-0.005304,-0.001043,0.00266,0.007165,0.01088,-0.001373,-0.007048,-0.001725,0.010001,-0.004311
Southeast_Asia_15KYA:Hoabinhian,-0.025041,-0.224432,-0.11917,0.087856,0.022466,-0.001952,-0.003055,0.01223,0.060539,0.018406,0.012829,0.0011 99,-0.000446,0.006055,-0.007872,-0.006364,-0.00352,-0.00076,-0.005531,0.023386,0.006988,0.013107,-0.017131,-0.001325,0.003712
Southeast_Asia_15KYA:Leang_Panninge,-0.047806,-0.204121,-0.154997,0.17216,0.089863,-0.176259,-0.002115,-0.005769,0.02352,0.01221,0.002598,-0.005095,-0.000446,0,0.010315,-0.000398,0.005998,0.005321,-0.000377,0.010255,0.006863,-0.001607,-0.003821,0.003735,-0.007664
Southern_Asia_15KYA:AASI_Simulated,-0.0070176,-0.2472689,-0.2299763,0.1656382,-0.0353689,0.0643319,-0.0151889,0.0277276,0.1473805,0.1010641,-0.0046641,-0.0043335,0.0032289,0.0260319,-0.0477209,-0.0452003,0.0100937,0.0009062,0.0002451,0.0390401, 0.0094294,0.0240102,-0.0030685,0.0159835,-0.0108689
Southern_Europe_15KYA:Italy_WHG,0.1133676,0.108661 6,0.1948958,0.1949638,0.162061,0.0527102,0.0141946 ,0.038906,0.1008712,0.0219048,-0.013121,-0.0130084,0.015877,-0.0103494,0.0664758,0.0675944,0.003364,0.0118834,-0.0089246,0.0606042,0.1159704,0.012118,-0.0560778,-0.1861226,0.0214352
Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna,0.121791,0.11577, 0.18592,0.185726,0.156029,0.060798,0.017626,0.0415 37,0.093467,0.017859,-0.015752,-0.015886,0.020961,-0.005092,0.05361,0.064041,0.007562,0.004181,-0.00905,0.053401,0.099949,0.012489,-0.044123,-0.169904,0.018801
Southwest_Europe_15KYA:BAL051,0.101303,0.076165,0. 144814,0.163762,0.136641,0.042112,0.00235,0.032537 ,0.08999,0.02934,-0.012666,-0.009891,-0.001338,-0.016652,0.047909,0.050119,0.00013,0.006461,-0.008925,0.058528,0.092337,0.014838,-0.052997,-0.158095,0.012095
Taiwan_Strait_15KYA:Qihe3,-0.001138,-0.389963,-0.048649,-0.020026,0.090478,0.035977,-0.0047,-0.009,-0.012476,-0.007107,0.014777,0.000749,-0.009068,0.013212,0.004479,-0.006497,-0.004303,0.001014,-0.003897,-0.007003,0.015348,0.001484,-0.005916,-0.014339,-0.015807
Taiwan_Strait_15KYA:tai002,0.006829,-0.379808,-0.035449,-0.02907,0.119715,0.0502,-0.00094,-0.005769,-0.014112,-0.025695,0.03329,-0.001798,-0.016055,0.012799,-0.005157,0.010209,-0.005607,0.007855,0.00352,0.001376,0.024582,-0.003091,0.014666,-0.004579,-0.015567
West_Africa_15KYA:West_African_HG_Simulated,-0.693857,0.06452,0.0292866,0.030595,-0.003636,0.0222202,-0.0305968,0.0394146,-0.079397,0.033499,0.0035156,0.0028316,0.0147168,0. 0053334,0.0011988,-0.0013032,0.0092676,0.006106,0.0324162,-0.0109938,0.0040836,0.0235322,-0.0140118,-0.0004606,-0.0029534
Western_Europe_15KYA:RochedaneBichon,0.1195145,0.1 096775,0.184412,0.2000995,0.158799,0.057033,0.0123 38,0.0400365,0.099296,0.030069,-0.0134785,-0.021056,0.014197,-0.008739,0.0812285,0.091354,0.0099745,0.0166595,-0.0157125,0.0864165,0.156162,0.029306,-0.082268,-0.2782925,0.0228125

My results:

Target: Peterski_scaled
Distance: 7.0456% / 0.07045585
44.6 Anatolia_15KYA
43.0 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
12.4 Caucasus_15KYA

I guess we both like farming about the same?

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 6.1722% / 0.06172249
44.4 Anatolia_15KYA
38.8 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
15.8 Caucasus_15KYA
1.0 Southern_Europe_15KYA

thanks for posting; happy new year

Asega

01-01-2025, 04:10 PM

I guess we both like farming about the same?

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 6.1722% / 0.06172249
44.4 Anatolia_15KYA
38.8 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
15.8 Caucasus_15KYA
1.0 Southern_Europe_15KYA

thanks for posting; happy new year

Interesting how I appear to have more EHG-related ancestry than you.

Never mind, I thought you had recent Baltic and/or Russian ancestry.

Peterski

01-01-2025, 04:46 PM

And here is what populations from my 6th Century BC calculator score in my 15KYA calculator, made also by AimSmall:

https://i.imgur.com/SXcdPNk.png - click to zoom in

https://i.imgur.com/SXcdPNk.png

Kostek

01-01-2025, 06:17 PM

Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 8.8357% / 0.08835739
43.4 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
40.0 Anatolia_15KYA
12.2 Caucasus_15KYA
2.6 Levant_15KYA
1.8 Southern_Europe_15KYA

Target: Grandpa_scaled
Distance: 7.3033% / 0.07303325
43.6 Anatolia_15KYA
39.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
14.8 Caucasus_15KYA
1.6 Iran_15KYA
0.4 Southern_Europe_15KYA

Peterski

01-01-2025, 06:28 PM

Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 8.8357% / 0.08835739
43.4 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
40.0 Anatolia_15KYA
12.2 Caucasus_15KYA
2.6 Levant_15KYA
1.8 Southern_Europe_15KYA

Target: Grandpa_scaled
Distance: 7.3033% / 0.07303325
43.6 Anatolia_15KYA
39.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
14.8 Caucasus_15KYA
1.6 Iran_15KYA
0.4 Southern_Europe_15KYA

Is grandpa from a different region of Poland than you?

ScandinavianCelt

01-01-2025, 06:29 PM

Interesting how I appear to have more EHG-related ancestry than you.

Never mind, I thought you had recent Baltic and/or Russian ancestry.

If I bring the distance to your 7, we get same amount of eastern.

I match Polish Silesian and Slovakian more than others like Irish, Swedish, etc.

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 7.7273% / 0.07727302 | ADC: 2x RC
53.6 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
46.4 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001

Target: Polish_Silesian
Distance: 7.5971% / 0.07597055 | ADC: 2x RC
53.4 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
46.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001

Target: Slovakian
Distance: 7.0538% / 0.07053824 | ADC: 2x RC
53.4 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
46.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001

Target: Irish
Distance: 8.3216% / 0.08321552 | ADC: 2x RC
54.4 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
45.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001

Target: Swedish
Distance: 7.2363% / 0.07236303 | ADC: 2x RC
50.6 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
49.4 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001

Asega

01-01-2025, 06:34 PM

If I bring the distance to your 7, we get same amount of eastern.

I match Polish Silesian and Slovakian more than others like Irish, Swedish, etc.

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 7.7273% / 0.07727302 | ADC: 2x RC
53.6 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
46.4 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001

Target: Polish_Silesian
Distance: 7.5971% / 0.07597055 | ADC: 2x RC
53.4 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
46.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001

Target: Slovakian
Distance: 7.0538% / 0.07053824 | ADC: 2x RC
53.4 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
46.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001

Target: Irish
Distance: 8.3216% / 0.08321552 | ADC: 2x RC
54.4 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
45.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001

Target: Swedish
Distance: 7.2363% / 0.07236303 | ADC: 2x RC
50.6 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
49.4 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001

What's the reason behind that?

Target: Redmar_scaled
Distance: 8.2068% / 0.08206792 | ADC: 2x RC
53.0 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
47.0 Anatolia_15KYA

ScandinavianCelt

01-01-2025, 07:15 PM

This is what I score if I remove PES001 from source populations:

Target: Peterski_scaled
Distance: 9.1072% / 0.09107157
45.2 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
23.4 North_Eurasia_15KYA:AG3
16.2 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna
15.2 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 7.4910% / 0.07491038
44.6 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
21.8 North_Eurasia_15KYA:AG3
17.6 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
16.0 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna

I'm a tick more Caucasus. Can you guess why? Cass missed with his Kardashians thought. Haha

Asega

01-01-2025, 07:24 PM

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 7.4910% / 0.07491038
44.6 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
21.8 North_Eurasia_15KYA:AG3
17.6 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
16.0 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna

I'm a tick more Caucasus. Can you guess why? Cass missed with his Kardashians thought. Haha

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Early_CW:OBR003__BC_2885__Cov_36.59%,0.12862,0.097 491,0.059962,0.109498,-0.011694,0.039324,0.007285,0.001846,-0.044995,-0.064512,-0.000487,0.000599,-0.003717,-0.016377,0.035423,0.022938,0.007693,-0.005828,0.001508,0.01038,-0.002496,0.006554,0.008381,0.03133,-0.002754
Early_CW:PNL001__BC_2893__Cov_53.89%,0.134311,0.10 0537,0.050157,0.119834,-0.019388,0.046575,0.00752,0.001615,-0.049904,-0.06761,-0.001299,-0.00045,-0.00773,-0.016377,0.036644,0.015911,-0.008475,-0.000127,-0.005279,0.004127,-0.001996,0.003462,0.010353,0.030968,-0.006945
Early_CW:VLI076__BC_2956__Cov_64.53%,0.122929,0.09 9522,0.055814,0.11725,-0.017234,0.03765,0.008695,-0.000231,-0.046631,-0.073806,-0.000812,-0.004496,-0.002379,-0.018579,0.037459,0.012331,-0.009779,-0.003801,-0.003268,0.006003,-0.001123,-0.001731,0.00986,0.020605,0.003832
Early_CW:I4629__BC_2892__Cov_21.86%,0.132035,0.089 367,0.056191,0.132431,-0.008001,0.053268,-0.003995,0.015922,-0.037428,-0.071801,-0.013153,0.002847,0.002825,-0.022845,0.034066,-0.004508,-0.011343,0.002027,0.003268,0.01038,-0.009982,-0.003586,0.011462,0.028076,-0.004071
Early_CW:Latvia_LN1__BC_2892__Cov_14.22%,0.121791, 0.09546,0.061471,0.129201,-0.012925,0.053826,0.00329,0.009923,-0.050722,-0.080366,-0.01023,-0.001499,0.000595,-0.022432,0.03773,-0.001989,-0.007041,0.005194,-0.001508,0.015883,-0.004866,0.004204,0.009737,0.021208,-0.011017
Early_CW:Gyvakarai1_10bp__BC_2545__Cov_96.58%,0.12 0652,0.092413,0.053551,0.10336,-0.009848,0.043228,0.009165,-0.002769,-0.037019,-0.049022,-0.005846,-0.001199,0.004906,-0.010459,0.030809,0.020551,0.005607,-0.005194,-0.003142,0.006378,-0.003619,0.004946,0.008997,0.018557,0.001317
Early_CW:Plinkaigalis242__BC_2892__Cov_75.71%,0.13 2035,0.092413,0.055814,0.109498,-0.009232,0.052431,0.009165,0.006923,-0.038041,-0.056675,-0.003897,-0.001948,-0.002379,-0.016515,0.039359,0.027048,0.005867,-0.000253,-0.00088,0.006878,-0.009733,0.003957,0.006532,0.017231,0.000239

Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:STD003__BC_2927__Cov_31.62%,0.1 19514,0.160454,0.062979,-0.014535,0.098788,-0.016455,-0.003055,0.007384,0.057267,0.07417,-0.007307,0.011989,-0.029137,-0.012386,-0.003257,0.006364,0.025686,0.000127,0.000377,0.003 752,0.008859,0.008037,-0.013434,-0.030486,0.005269
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:VLI008__BC_2809__Cov_65.05%,0.1 25205,0.173656,0.063733,-0.01938,0.08063,-0.016176,-0.00188,0.003692,0.051131,0.068703,-0.000812,0.005995,-0.018285,0.003165,-0.008007,0.012463,0.018384,0.001267,0.015838,-0.004627,0.00549,0.00915,-0.017378,-0.019159,0.010538
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:BLS002__BC_2742__Cov_63.02%,0.1 26344,0.162485,0.062225,-0.013889,0.088632,-0.013666,0.00564,0.003231,0.05788,0.071983,-0.003573,0.01094,-0.011893,-0.00055,-0.013979,-0.006762,-0.007041,0.005574,0.013073,-0.001126,0.013227,0.012736,-0.015283,-0.032414,0.004191
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:PRE001__BC_2675__Cov_69.18%,0.1 27482,0.165531,0.056568,-0.029393,0.086785,-0.018965,-0.00047,0.006692,0.057062,0.075628,-0.006496,0.016485,-0.016204,-0.012661,-0.009908,0.007292,0.007562,0.007221,0.002263,-0.0005,0.0141,0.003833,-0.011709,-0.033258,0.001078
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:VLI031__BC_2560__Cov_32.77%,0.1 26344,0.166547,0.071653,-0.012274,0.089555,-0.010319,0.00329,0.015922,0.054403,0.071437,0.0053 59,0.002248,-0.010555,-0.001651,-0.012893,-0.007027,0.000261,0.006588,-0.000628,-0.005753,0.016097,0.009645,-0.013557,-0.042416,0.001437
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:VLI032__BC_2732__Cov_28.43%,0.1 17238,0.175687,0.069013,-0.01938,0.089555,-0.01255,0.0094,0.00923,0.041518,0.071254,0.01153,0 .000899,-0.019921,-0.004954,-0.0076,0.002387,0.005998,0.013049,-0.001006,-0.001251,0.010107,0.006306,-0.006409,-0.027835,0.000958
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:ILK001__BC_2823__Cov_76.58%,0.1 25205,0.1635,0.055814,-0.023579,0.082785,-0.011713,-0.00094,0.006231,0.05379,0.065969,-0.00406,0.006894,-0.01888,-0.007569,-0.008686,0.018165,0.021383,0.001647,0.002765,0.002 876,0.010107,0.005935,-0.016145,-0.020485,0.00946
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:ILK002__BC_2784__Cov_78.78%,0.1 19514,0.170609,0.064111,-0.024225,0.086478,-0.015339,0.002585,-0.000923,0.047859,0.07089,0.000974,0.003147,-0.013231,0.000688,-0.004207,-0.005304,-0.009388,0.008868,0.002765,-0.010005,0.005865,-0.000866,-0.013557,-0.023256,0
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:ILK003__BC_2831__Cov_75.53%,0.1 24067,0.173656,0.062979,-0.018411,0.080015,-0.015339,0.000705,0.006,0.050926,0.075446,-0.003085,0.007044,-0.022002,0.007844,-0.016286,-0.016309,-0.002608,0.009628,0.009302,-0.001876,0.011105,0.00272,-0.016392,-0.021449,0.001437
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:I2403__BC_2717__Cov_24.82%,0.12 862,0.162485,0.070522,-0.009367,0.087401,-0.023148,0.00517,0.005307,0.049699,0.065241,0.0068 2,0.016186,-0.016353,-0.021469,-0.012758,0.012596,0.020992,-0.000507,0.003268,0.005753,0.011355,0.00507,-0.008874,-0.015785,0.001557
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:I2405_enhanced__BC_3182__Cov_10 .15%,0.144555,0.179749,0.058454,-0.01938,0.088016,-0.027889,-0.00047,0.018692,0.060539,0.07253,-0.012829,0.005395,-0.017096,-0.008533,-0.004886,0.001591,-0.002086,-0.001267,0.007793,0.002876,0.016471,0.013849,-0.024157,-0.03133,0.005628
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:I2433__BC_3000__Cov_45.88%,0.13 0897,0.17264,0.054305,-0.016796,0.084631,-0.024821,-0.00094,0.006231,0.054403,0.075992,-0.00682,0.011839,-0.017839,-0.013487,-0.003664,0.004508,0.007171,0.007221,0.002891,-0.003877,0.012104,0.010263,-0.013557,-0.016267,-0.008382
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:I2434__BC_3100__Cov_9.74%,0.124 067,0.17264,0.052043,-0.031654,0.070167,-0.008367,0.003525,0.012692,0.074242,0.079819,-0.008769,0.002997,-0.022299,-0.003991,-0.001629,0.014054,0.028554,0.00266,0.00352,-0.002876,0.006489,0.000989,-0.012571,-0.029281,-0.009221
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:I2440__BC_3000__Cov_16.22%,0.11 0408,0.173656,0.056945,-0.028424,0.094479,-0.028168,-0.00235,-0.00923,0.041109,0.063418,-0.010555,0.008692,-0.019475,0.000688,-0.003257,0.001724,-0.000913,0.004054,0.017221,0.01063,0.024457,0.0064 3,-0.012941,-0.042175,0.001078
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:I2441__BC_3100__Cov_43.60%,0.13 2035,0.177718,0.053551,-0.027132,0.084016,-0.02259,0.00188,0.006692,0.056449,0.080913,-0.000487,0.009142,-0.026313,-0.011423,0.0019,0.005569,0.004955,0.005321,0.00854 7,0.002376,0.00836,0.004575,-0.006409,-0.020364,0.002634
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:N38__BC_3009__Cov_78.61%,0.1274 82,0.1635,0.064111,-0.017119,0.087093,-0.011156,0.003055,0.004846,0.049495,0.071801,0.001 624,0.008992,-0.015461,-0.00578,-0.011672,-0.002387,0.007562,0.006588,0.00264,-0.004377,0.001747,0.003957,-0.010723,-0.021208,-0.001676
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1160_new__BC_2771__Cov_78.4 3%,0.129758,0.1635,0.059585,-0.019703,0.090478,-0.02008,0.000235,0.006,0.056858,0.073806,0.001949, 0.009142,-0.020218,-0.010735,-0.015608,0.014187,0.024121,0.004941,0.003645,0.008 254,0.015348,0.005935,-0.021075,-0.028438,0.002634
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1168_new__BC_2722__Cov_85.8 6%,0.129758,0.168578,0.057322,-0.017442,0.085247,-0.01506,0.00141,0.006923,0.056244,0.065423,-0.000325,0.004496,-0.013974,-0.009496,-0.008415,0.016706,0.017732,0.005194,0.001634,-0.005503,0.021961,0.003462,-0.019473,-0.035427,0.00479
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1159__BC_2774__Cov_88.96%,0 .132035,0.17264,0.062602,-0.024548,0.092633,-0.026216,0.00282,0.012692,0.05379,0.078544,0.00308 5,0.010491,-0.027205,-0.007156,-0.014794,0.012198,0.018775,0.007981,0.007416,0.012 131,0.010357,0.007666,-0.016885,-0.032053,0.007065
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1161__BC_2835__Cov_64.25%,0 .126344,0.173656,0.061848,-0.015504,0.0834,-0.013108,0.007285,0.008307,0.050926,0.070343,0.003 573,0.010341,-0.013677,-0.013487,-0.009093,0.001326,0.004563,0.007221,0.009804,0.003 126,0.012977,0.011129,-0.012818,-0.028197,0.006706
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1162__BC_2815__Cov_90.08%,0 .134311,0.17264,0.059585,-0.025194,0.090171,-0.011992,0.003055,0.011999,0.061562,0.066516,0,0.0 12589,-0.020812,-0.006468,-0.011943,0.001193,0.011995,0.005828,0.00993,-0.002126,0.009483,0.004822,-0.014173,-0.022172,0.008023
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1163__BC_2786__Cov_95.25%,0 .12862,0.174671,0.055437,-0.01938,0.078784,-0.013666,0.00376,0.00923,0.052972,0.070343,0.00016 2,0.007343,-0.006838,-0.006055,-0.011536,-0.005436,0.005085,0.008235,-0.000377,-0.010505,0.019341,0.002968,-0.022924,-0.033981,0.000958
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1164__BC_2513__Cov_57.18%,0 .133173,0.171624,0.058454,-0.020995,0.085862,-0.01255,0.002115,0.007846,0.05379,0.071072,-0.001461,0.006894,-0.01888,0.004404,-0.013843,-0.004243,-0.001043,0.016343,0.012067,-0.002126,0.008859,0.012489,-0.01405,-0.034222,0.002036
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1165__BC_2804__Cov_81.17%,0 .124067,0.164516,0.063733,-0.02261,0.084939,-0.018128,0.001645,0.003692,0.053381,0.065423,-0.000812,0.013338,-0.019177,0.003303,-0.008686,-0.006762,-0.011735,0.005448,0.012067,-0.014007,0.011979,0.000989,-0.015776,-0.031812,0.002275
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1166__BC_2954__Cov_89.89%,0 .124067,0.165531,0.065242,-0.015181,0.084016,-0.014502,0.001175,0.002077,0.05379,0.066698,-0.003085,0.007493,-0.017691,-0.006468,-0.006107,0.002519,0.003129,-0.00266,0.008799,-0.002501,0.00574,0.001731,-0.011585,-0.025787,0
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1167__BC_2771__Cov_85.61%,0 .127482,0.171624,0.065619,-0.011951,0.084323,-0.01255,0.00141,0.006,0.058494,0.067063,-0.000325,0.008243,-0.01665,-0.006055,-0.004207,0.003978,0.005607,0.005448,0.012067,0.001 376,0.010107,-0.002844,-0.012448,-0.032053,-0.006945
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1169__BC_2797__Cov_55.62%,0 .129758,0.17264,0.065996,-0.021318,0.081861,-0.018407,0.00141,0.008307,0.046427,0.066334,-0.001461,0.008542,-0.011893,-0.000963,-0.009636,-0.001724,0.000391,0.007728,0.00264,-0.002251,0.013726,-0.000371,-0.012202,-0.038319,0.000599
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1170__BC_2804__Cov_94.04%,0 .132035,0.170609,0.060716,-0.027455,0.085247,-0.016733,0.00658,0.014769,0.056653,0.07253,-0.001624,0.015586,-0.022448,-0.001239,-0.010315,0.002652,0.010561,0.011655,0.010559,0.007 253,0.013227,0.012365,-0.01023,-0.027594,0.011616
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1171__BC_2876__Cov_87.22%,0 .129758,0.173656,0.065619,-0.014858,0.089247,-0.016176,0.00094,0.004384,0.048472,0.067063,0.0014 61,0.013038,-0.021258,-0.000138,-0.005565,-0.010607,-0.004563,-0.000887,0.009553,-0.009004,0.014724,-0.00371,-0.007025,-0.027112,-0.002634
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1172__BC_2714__Cov_89.17%,0 .127482,0.175687,0.053928,-0.031977,0.08617,-0.020359,-0.001645,0.003231,0.058085,0.073259,0.005359,0.008 093,-0.017542,-0.002615,-0.018865,0.006895,0.019558,0.001394,0.007542,-0.008004,0.009733,0.003091,-0.010106,-0.020726,0.001317
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1173__BC_2685__Cov_89.48%,0 .129758,0.167562,0.056191,-0.017119,0.080015,-0.017849,0.002585,0.006923,0.053176,0.067792,-0.005196,0.007194,-0.013677,-0.009496,-0.008958,0.010607,0.017602,0.007475,0.003645,-0.006753,0.017844,0.00136,-0.017378,-0.031209,0.001317
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1243__BC_2775__Cov_17.02%,0 .120652,0.161469,0.064488,-0.021641,0.080323,-0.012829,-0.00564,0.001615,0.049086,0.078908,0.007307,0.0083 93,-0.010109,-0.007707,-0.011401,0.009944,0.009127,0.008995,-0.00176,-0.008004,0.002745,0.005441,-0.01368,-0.022172,-0.001676
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1246__BC_2771__Cov_31.72%,0 .12862,0.1635,0.065996,-0.031654,0.08063,-0.030957,0.0047,0.008307,0.048472,0.07417,0.001624 ,0.01154,-0.014866,0.002752,-0.018729,-0.008486,-0.017341,0.017736,0.002011,-0.006753,0.006239,0.00507,-0.012078,-0.029884,-0.003113
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1247__BC_2775__Cov_45.11%,0 .127482,0.164516,0.056568,-0.013889,0.082169,-0.010877,-0.0047,0.006692,0.050926,0.073623,0.003735,0.00389 7,-0.012339,-0.013074,-0.011808,0.018828,0.027381,0.005321,0.002388,0.008 754,0.015597,0.011376,-0.012818,-0.029161,-0.005149
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1248__BC_2775__Cov_46.72%,0 .127482,0.158423,0.062979,-0.015504,0.08894,-0.014223,-0.00047,0.010846,0.056244,0.060138,0.011854,0.0058 45,-0.002676,-0.009083,-0.011943,0.008751,0.005607,0.006841,0.005405,0.005 002,0.01697,0.014467,-0.014913,-0.028076,-0.005748
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1249__BC_2787__Cov_56.22%,0 .129758,0.167562,0.068259,-0.023256,0.079092,-0.01506,-0.00094,0.004615,0.058289,0.071072,0.008119,0.0067 44,-0.012933,-0.001927,-0.011265,-0.011005,-0.007693,0.008868,0.005908,-0.008129,0.002496,0.014715,-0.015529,-0.029281,0.001916
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1252__BC_2775__Cov_27.19%,0 .120652,0.178733,0.054682,-0.013889,0.077553,-0.017012,-0.003055,0.007154,0.054199,0.072348,0.000812,0.006 294,-0.007582,0.006468,-0.008143,-0.012596,-0.007562,0.009375,0.012947,-0.013757,0.009483,0.013849,-0.026622,-0.02892,-0.004311
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1241__BC_2823__Cov_48.97%,0 .126344,0.167562,0.065242,-0.01938,0.085862,-0.018407,0.004465,0.005077,0.048268,0.06925,-0.010068,0.009891,-0.014123,-0.019542,-0.006786,0.005171,0.021774,0.003547,0.001131,-0.002876,0.014599,0.009398,-0.017255,-0.03145,0.003712
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1250__BC_2800__Cov_30.85%,0 .122929,0.168578,0.056568,-0.019057,0.086478,-0.020359,0.000235,0.009923,0.052767,0.064329,-0.002598,0.01124,-0.013528,-0.007844,-0.016422,-0.003978,-0.003651,-0.000127,0.001383,-0.010505,0.004866,0.012489,-0.013188,-0.023979,0.000958
Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC:RISE1254__BC_2775__Cov_29.19%,0 .119514,0.164516,0.045632,-0.022287,0.085554,-0.006693,-0.006815,0.011076,0.058289,0.073259,-0.004872,0.008243,-0.019475,0.006193,-0.006515,0.004641,0.004042,0.002787,0.006034,0.005 253,0.007736,0.004822,-0.011092,-0.031812,-0.005628

TRB_HG:OST001__BC_3443__Cov_13.67%,0.130897,0.1411 59,0.15198,0.133723,0.142796,0.040997,0.021151,0.0 18461,0.064425,0.01713,-0.002598,-0.001948,0.000595,-0.007432,0.046281,0.059135,0.010431,0.013049,0.008 547,0.04077,0.056525,0.008161,-0.037591,-0.098327,0.030297
TRB_HG:OST002:OST002.C0201,0.132035,0.127957,0.156 505,0.137599,0.127408,0.041276,0.012926,0.028614,0 .069743,0.02442,-0.007795,-0.013488,0.008028,-0.00234,0.027958,0.034473,-0.003781,0.008361,-0.002891,0.037018,0.054529,0.002968,-0.042644,-0.10857,0.006466
TRB_HG:OST003__BC_3233__Cov_61.33%,0.125205,0.1157 7,0.173853,0.172483,0.148643,0.056057,0.010575,0.0 28153,0.069129,0.003645,-0.018999,-0.013788,0.022894,0.002752,0.048724,0.06298,0.0080 84,0.004561,-0.001383,0.039644,0.081481,0.013478,-0.035126,-0.120619,0.015567
TRB_HG:TGM009__BC_3258__Cov_58.88%,0.132035,0.1411 59,0.156128,0.124033,0.128947,0.032909,0.013396,0. 018692,0.065243,0.018953,-0.009094,-0.01124,0.010406,-0.001789,0.026194,0.042163,0.010822,0.014696,-0.003897,0.038143,0.07936,0.015828,-0.032784,-0.100496,0.012574
TRB_HG:I1565__BC_3724__Cov_73.53%,0.125205,0.12389 5,0.157259,0.138891,0.130486,0.032072,0.01081,0.02 6537,0.073015,0.013303,-0.016888,-0.01139,0.017988,-0.008257,0.037866,0.04455,0.007432,0.008868,-0.011564,0.040269,0.073495,0.010758,-0.035372,-0.108811,0.014849
TRB_HG:Bla45__BC_3769__Cov_12.07%,0.130897,0.12694 1,0.159522,0.127909,0.13541,0.038487,0.016451,0.03 2768,0.071788,0.033349,0.005196,-0.014837,0.024975,-0.004129,0.051031,0.049589,0.005737,0.004181,-0.016592,0.031515,0.078736,0.012613,-0.043999,-0.117004,0.018681

Since you are NW Euro, I have a model you can try out. Steppe/MN farmer/excess HG. It works well because these are the relevant proximate ''ancestral'' sources.

Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 2.5685% / 0.02568492
61.2 Early_CW
33.8 Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC
5.0 TRB_HG

Kostek

01-01-2025, 08:22 PM

Is grandpa from a different region of Poland than you?

He's from Ukraine, actually. His family comes from Kopyczyńce powiat.

ScandinavianCelt

01-01-2025, 09:15 PM

Since you are NW Euro, I have a model you can try out. Steppe/MN farmer/excess HG. It works well because these the relevant proximate ''ancestral'' sources.

Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 2.5685% / 0.02568492
61.2 Early_CW
33.8 Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC
5.0 TRB_HG

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 1.8468% / 0.01846772
49.0 Early_CW
45.2 Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC
5.8 Early_CWNL001__BC_2893__Cov_53.89%

By the way, using my best merged data file IllustrativeDNA puts my top modern closest distance as:

Dutch 1.720
Orcadian 1.758
German 1.805
Irish 1.810
Scottish 1.832
Norwegian 1.892
Welsh 1.895
Danish 1.918
English (Kent) 1.932
White American (Utah) 1.987

No Swedish, yet I'm 50% Swedish via Ancestry and 46.6% Swedish with 23andMe. My Mom is fully Swedish American, with her dad born over there on Gotland island in the SE part, and her mom's parents coming from the western side of Sweden, closer to Oslo, Norway.

Swedish falls in at #15: 2.639

Asega

01-01-2025, 09:30 PM

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 1.8468% / 0.01846772
49.0 Early_CW
45.2 Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC
5.8 Early_CWNL001__BC_2893__Cov_53.89%

By the way, IllustrativeDNA puts my top modern closest distance as:

Dutch 1.720
Orcadian 1.758
German 1.805
Irish 1.810
Scottish 1.832
Norwegian 1.892
Welsh 1.895
Danish 1.918
English (Kent) 1.932
White American (Utah) 1.987

I"m not close to most Dutch at all.

Distance to: Asega_scaled
0.02690068 Norwegian:GSM1550604
0.02801817 Norwegian:GSM1550768
0.02823740 Irish:513
0.02961798 Swedish:GSM1884745
0.02974119 Dutch:Netherlands21
0.02975373 Swedish:Sweden16
0.02986140 Danish:487
0.03089491 Danish:GSM1985841
0.03106259 Icelandic:NA15766
0.03115785 Swedish:GSM1884888
0.03145210 Norwegian:GSM1550634
0.03172399 Swedish:GSM1884788
0.03211708 Icelandic:NA15760
0.03262783 Danish:GSM1985779
0.03271420 Norwegian:NOR152
0.03272011 Danish:GSM1985777
0.03302615 Danish:GSM1985711
0.03321378 Danish:GSM1985829
0.03346644 Swedish:GSM1884854
0.03347705 Irish:509
0.03361020 Danish:GSM1985756
0.03369855 Irish:518
0.03388240 Swedish:GSM1884771
0.03403786 Icelandic:NA15759
0.03414489 Swedish:GSM1884849

ScandinavianCelt

01-01-2025, 09:54 PM

I"m not close to most Dutch at all.

Distance to: Asega_scaled
0.02690068 Norwegian:GSM1550604
0.02801817 Norwegian:GSM1550768
0.02823740 Irish:513
0.02961798 Swedish:GSM1884745
0.02974119 Dutch:Netherlands21
0.02975373 Swedish:Sweden16
0.02986140 Danish:487
0.03089491 Danish:GSM1985841
0.03106259 Icelandic:NA15766
0.03115785 Swedish:GSM1884888
0.03145210 Norwegian:GSM1550634
0.03172399 Swedish:GSM1884788
0.03211708 Icelandic:NA15760
0.03262783 Danish:GSM1985779
0.03271420 Norwegian:NOR152
0.03272011 Danish:GSM1985777
0.03302615 Danish:GSM1985711
0.03321378 Danish:GSM1985829
0.03346644 Swedish:GSM1884854
0.03347705 Irish:509
0.03361020 Danish:GSM1985756
0.03369855 Irish:518
0.03388240 Swedish:GSM1884771
0.03403786 Icelandic:NA15759
0.03414489 Swedish:GSM1884849

What do you show with your calc at 2x?

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.8689% / 0.02868871 | ADC: 2x RC
57.0 Early_CW
43.0 Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC

Asega

01-01-2025, 09:57 PM

What do you show with your calc at 2x?

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.8689% / 0.02868871 | ADC: 2x RC
57.0 Early_CW
43.0 Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC

Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 9.1140% / 0.09113964 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Early_CW

ScandinavianCelt

01-01-2025, 10:05 PM

I"m not close to most Dutch at all.

Distance to: Asega_scaled
0.02690068 Norwegian:GSM1550604
0.02801817 Norwegian:GSM1550768
0.02823740 Irish:513
0.02961798 Swedish:GSM1884745
0.02974119 Dutch:Netherlands21
0.02975373 Swedish:Sweden16
0.02986140 Danish:487
0.03089491 Danish:GSM1985841
0.03106259 Icelandic:NA15766
0.03115785 Swedish:GSM1884888
0.03145210 Norwegian:GSM1550634
0.03172399 Swedish:GSM1884788
0.03211708 Icelandic:NA15760
0.03262783 Danish:GSM1985779
0.03271420 Norwegian:NOR152
0.03272011 Danish:GSM1985777
0.03302615 Danish:GSM1985711
0.03321378 Danish:GSM1985829
0.03346644 Swedish:GSM1884854
0.03347705 Irish:509
0.03361020 Danish:GSM1985756
0.03369855 Irish:518
0.03388240 Swedish:GSM1884771
0.03403786 Icelandic:NA15759
0.03414489 Swedish:GSM1884849

Yes, my G25 results are not showing Dutch on the modern scaled until #25, but IllustrativeDNA puts Dutch #1. Modern scaled G25 gives me Danish-Hamburg-Danish-Swedish-Irish as top 5 individuals. Prob best to compare the AVERAGES.

My averages results:

Distance to: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.02392157 Danish
0.02395960 Dutch
0.02495352 Norwegian
0.02628904 Scottish
0.02663552 Afrikaner
0.02668656 Orcadian
0.02706109 Irish
0.02717041 German_Hamburg
0.02732863 Icelandic
0.02745514 Shetlandic
0.02759650 English
0.02824142 German
0.02825613 Swedish
0.02832112 Welsh
0.02997292 French_Brittany
0.03098878 German_Erlangen
0.03108580 English_Cornwall
0.03508454 BelgianA
0.03602410 German_East
0.03614140 Austrian
0.03741926 BelgianB
0.03835439 Czech
0.03924872 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04013701 French_Nord
0.04166929 Hungarian

Asega

01-01-2025, 10:14 PM

Yes, my G25 results are not showing Dutch on the modern scaled until #25, but IllustrativeDNA puts Dutch #1. Modern scaled G25 gives me Danish-Hamburg-Danish-Swedish-Irish as top 5 individuals. Prob best to compare the AVERAGES.

I feel like averages can be misleading sometimes. Personally prefer comparing against individuals. It changes nothing for me.

Apparently I am more Steppe than most individuals, which is why I always come back as a mixture of Irish and Finnish to compensate for the excess Steppe HG and lower farmer ancestry.

I owe my height to my Steppe patriarch/ancestors, that's certain.

ScandinavianCelt

01-01-2025, 10:30 PM

I feel like averages can be misleading sometimes. Personally prefer comparing against individuals. It changes nothing for me.

Apparently I am more Steppe than most individuals, which is why I always come back as a mixture of Irish and Finnish to compensate for the excess Steppe HG and lower farmer ancestry.

I owe my height to my Steppe patriarch/ancestors, that's certain.

What do you get on the classic Steppe calc?

I get this:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 3.8097% / 0.03809678
53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
35.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
11.2 France_Rochedane

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237

You can also try with swapping in Ostuni1 for Rochedane:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 5.1017% / 0.05101734
54.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
33.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
12.0 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515

Distance to: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.14145541 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.17628712 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1
0.21870658 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.33265485 France_Rochedane

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I just checked distances of Samara_EBA_Yamnaya to all most northern averages without Finnish-- where do you fall in this?

Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.14145541 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14626788 Polish_Kashubian
0.14691370 Shetlandic
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15040774 Polish_Silesian
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15379892 German_East
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15814252 German_Erlangen
0.15823242 German
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17149021 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17295357 French_Alsace
0.17564242 Swiss_German
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17748785 French_Paris
0.18835312 Swiss_French
0.18903221 French_Occitanie
0.19020848 French_Provence
0.19115325 French_Auvergne
0.21063499 French_Chalosse
0.21083390 French_South
0.21331569 French_Bearn
0.21357288 French_Bigorre
0.21751658 Basque_French
0.22452398 French_Corsica
0.23562443 Ashkenazi_Germany

samples:

Welsh,0.131978,0.138163,0.060132,0.043024,0.040592 ,0.016622,0.003314,0.006392,0.006279,0.004337,-0.00423,0.005912,-0.012911,-0.010975,0.020596,0.005708,-0.008703,0.002356,0.003086,0.002007,0.004985,0.003 852,-1.2e-05,0.011224,0.000808
Irish,0.133361,0.134098,0.061169,0.048864,0.037788 ,0.019352,0.003293,0.004713,0.003568,0.002927,-0.006971,0.00584,-0.014189,-0.014076,0.025935,0.005215,-0.011145,0.001894,0.000597,0.001776,0.005114,0.001 279,0.000293,0.014407,0.000661
Scottish,0.131466,0.134232,0.062265,0.047043,0.039 106,0.017281,0.00355,0.005176,0.003572,0.002825,-0.005614,0.005047,-0.01168,-0.011973,0.023024,0.003125,-0.011255,0.002774,0.00255,0.001452,0.004225,0.0033 08,-0.000656,0.013556,-0.00077
Shetlandic,0.134311,0.133373,0.060842,0.047912,0.0 40418,0.019429,0.00423,0.004692,0.003545,-0.004131,-0.003951,0.006744,-0.011546,-0.012615,0.021308,0.002608,-0.008736,0.001436,0.002975,-0.00246,0.003203,0.002679,0.006286,0.018798,0.0026 74
English,0.131855,0.137043,0.061788,0.044013,0.0392 3,0.016748,0.004985,0.005745,0.005264,0.005678,-0.004769,0.005616,-0.012589,-0.010351,0.020615,0.003552,-0.010369,0.004094,0.003685,0.002962,0.005937,0.003 404,-0.003269,0.013794,3.1e-05
English_Cornwall,0.130197,0.139752,0.061355,0.0431 83,0.041901,0.016412,0.003435,0.00639,0.006482,0.0 06967,-0.004634,0.006479,-0.013745,-0.010248,0.020755,0.003172,-0.012527,0.002115,0.003761,0.003242,0.004809,0.003 871,-0.000758,0.014367,0.000691
Dutch,0.127441,0.134179,0.060271,0.044076,0.040844 ,0.016397,0.005402,0.007263,0.004209,0.001924,-0.005635,0.004427,-0.009846,-0.008676,0.01783,0.005623,-0.006516,0.001748,0.003909,0.002816,0.00448,0.0033 85,-5e-06,0.013892,-0.000656
Basque_French,0.128051,0.152025,0.055173,0.012823, 0.056411,0.00251,-0.00141,0.003323,0.030597,0.041204,-0.009272,0.010341,-0.020976,-0.014024,0.013219,-0.001936,-0.011917,0.003028,-0.000716,-0.004415,0.010157,0.002485,-0.00864,-0.00917,7.2e-05
French_Alsace,0.127311,0.140372,0.050317,0.022432, 0.038423,0.008911,0.00292,0.004875,0.006852,0.0106 79,-0.003134,0.004578,-0.009444,-0.00417,0.008561,0.003066,-0.004893,0.002439,0.003243,-0.000716,0.002764,0.001156,-0.001322,0.007137,-0.000314
French_Auvergne,0.125416,0.144656,0.04742,0.012992 ,0.043472,0.003997,-0.000339,0.002513,0.015407,0.022172,-0.002466,0.007355,-0.013969,-0.009669,0.008299,0.001483,-0.000787,0.001497,0.003073,-0.000213,0.001858,0.003737,-0.002282,0.001816,-8.9e-05
French_Bearn,0.126799,0.144814,0.053589,0.006008,0 .053949,0.002175,-0.001692,-0.002054,0.024461,0.039891,-0.008866,0.010236,-0.018999,-0.014327,0.014169,0.001578,-0.005724,-0.000899,-0.001735,-0.003302,0.005465,0.003141,-0.006643,-0.00817,0.000683
French_Bigorre,0.128051,0.147353,0.052269,0.00533, 0.052225,-0.000837,-0.001669,0.000162,0.024809,0.03827,-0.003085,0.007883,-0.021481,-0.014148,0.00874,0.000186,-0.003559,0.002369,-0.000892,-0.002914,0.002508,-0.00089,-0.003291,-0.005904,0.00103
French_Brittany,0.131466,0.13834,0.05785,0.039285, 0.039169,0.015813,0.003155,0.004211,0.008186,0.009 49,-0.005131,0.00559,-0.014368,-0.013102,0.018343,0.004399,-0.007302,0.00128,-0.000462,0.001773,0.004467,0.001787,-0.001254,0.010547,0.000659
French_Chalosse,0.128734,0.14776,0.051892,0.011176 ,0.051333,0.002761,0.00047,0.001777,0.025259,0.039 655,-0.002696,0.008947,-0.020337,-0.015083,0.011088,0.002824,-0.005424,0.001672,-0.000779,-0.002239,0.008273,0.002844,-0.007691,-0.007664,-0.002096
French_Corsica,0.120327,0.151822,0.01953,-0.023002,0.035039,-0.01004,-0.001846,-0.000561,0.015705,0.033792,-0.000603,0.007461,-0.013231,-0.007107,-0.004537,-0.000597,0.004042,0.001249,0.002451,-0.003046,-0.000392,0.000247,-0.002579,-0.001386,-0.00053
French_Nord,0.128275,0.140543,0.051357,0.025605,0. 038273,0.008891,0.001097,0.00442,0.008373,0.012016 ,-0.003484,0.004033,-0.010861,-0.008182,0.011199,0.002543,-0.004607,0.002227,0.004095,0.001031,0.002133,0.001 525,-0.001572,0.007471,1.4e-05
French_Occitanie,0.127039,0.144883,0.048879,0.0179 08,0.043376,0.003416,0.000522,0.003891,0.014856,0. 023589,-0.003288,0.006582,-0.015044,-0.009458,0.010737,0.002567,-0.003709,0.002484,0.001425,4.5e-05,0.003671,0.002446,-0.00255,0.001767,0.000422
French_Paris,0.127171,0.141436,0.050431,0.02399,0. 040903,0.009305,0.002799,0.005454,0.011602,0.01817 4,-0.007706,0.006812,-0.012906,-0.010384,0.01377,0.006063,-0.001825,0.004664,0.002708,-0.000978,0.002201,0.003575,-0.001232,0.011141,-0.001905
French_Pas-de-Calais,0.127861,0.140481,0.054305,0.026809,0.04216 2,0.012736,0.004152,0.001308,0.008522,0.012453,-0.008011,0.002198,-0.01001,-0.012019,0.013663,0.008132,-0.000478,0.001816,-0.003645,0.004252,0.009982,0.001443,-0.002547,0.005904,-0.001437
French_Provence,0.121925,0.143847,0.036891,0.00535 8,0.036858,0.00233,0.002267,0.003638,0.010058,0.02 0453,-0.003869,0.007211,-0.012138,-0.010961,0.005956,0.003174,0.001097,0.002809,0.001 775,-0.001515,0.001541,0.002735,0.000355,0.005444,3.5e-05
French_Seine-Maritime,0.136019,0.137096,0.045254,0.029555,0.039 084,0.016733,0.00423,-0.000692,0.003988,0.006014,-0.003735,0.007493,-0.007582,-0.001651,0.014251,0.003514,-0.007953,-0.002344,0.000943,-0.005002,0.003931,0.005503,0.000863,0.004278,-0.004491
French_South,0.126181,0.144785,0.049618,0.00886,0. 050691,0.002669,0.000269,0.002275,0.02764,0.03866,-0.006774,0.007365,-0.021853,-0.013566,0.010373,0.002765,-0.005104,0.001792,0.000215,0.001912,0.004991,-0.00083,-0.005264,-0.007557,-0.00142
Swiss_French,0.12734,0.14484,0.041436,0.010215,0.0 41162,0.006484,0.000823,0.002884,0.011811,0.019431 ,-0.000751,0.006594,-0.015962,-0.012524,0.008347,0.002171,0.005753,-0.001615,0.003661,-0.000344,0.004788,0.003648,0.001664,0.002576,-0.000479
Ashkenazi_Germany,0.097319,0.142377,-0.014406,-0.049936,0.010925,-0.018769,-0.001974,-0.001754,0.009858,0.018843,0.003962,-0.001124,0.002512,-0.00267,-0.005049,0.003089,0.002203,-0.001698,-0.000779,-0.001126,-0.003344,-0.002696,0.000875,0.001386,0.000814
German,0.130299,0.137378,0.057363,0.037865,0.03956 6,0.015146,0.004177,0.005897,0.003746,0.001633,-0.004331,0.002316,-0.005334,-0.001744,0.008738,0.002822,-0.0033,0.001633,0.003531,0.001114,0.002947,0.00180 1,0.000337,0.00836,7.4e-05
German_East,0.130897,0.138493,0.061094,0.049984,0. 038123,0.016141,0.006316,0.007038,0.002199,-0.00492,-0.005217,-0.00178,-3.7e-05,0.008223,0.001306,-0.003132,-0.007905,0.001188,0.005311,-0.00075,0.000624,-0.001113,0.001772,0.001612,-0.000314
German_Erlangen,0.128569,0.137233,0.056163,0.03807 6,0.038593,0.015097,0.004223,0.005442,0.0041,-0.000112,-0.003119,0.00121,-0.003703,0.001892,0.00443,0.001817,-0.001831,0.0018,0.003111,0.000597,-0.000315,0.00136,0.00183,0.006703,2e-06
German_Hamburg,0.128285,0.13399,0.063467,0.048526, 0.040062,0.020375,0.007562,0.009108,0.00296,-0.003559,-0.003878,8.8e-05,-0.00251,0.000753,0.009436,0.003268,-0.004556,0.002556,0.003993,0.000684,0.00174,0.0015 57,0.002719,0.00735,-0.001035
Swiss_German,0.127624,0.140778,0.046009,0.022731,0 .040623,0.007391,0.002791,0.005134,0.008641,0.0121 64,-0.001522,0.005264,-0.01494,-0.008808,0.008364,-0.001127,-0.002591,0.001219,0.005374,-0.000922,0.001934,0.003509,-0.002557,0.006974,-0.00256
BelgianA,0.129758,0.140617,0.054506,0.031374,0.038 305,0.014131,0.003666,0.005554,0.006804,0.006852,-0.004991,0.005155,-0.011338,-0.005698,0.014794,-0.000672,-0.010831,0.001301,0.002497,-0.000217,0.003552,0.002523,0.000592,0.008073,0.000 583
BelgianB,0.128469,0.141091,0.050459,0.028037,0.038 633,0.010505,0.003509,0.005,0.00634,0.011517,-0.004136,0.004096,-0.010852,-0.010909,0.012577,0.005012,-0.002156,0.002441,0.001366,0.000275,0.003852,0.003 438,-0.000707,0.009303,-0.002203
BelgianC,0.126875,0.142987,0.053249,0.023149,0.040 582,0.009501,0.00141,0.004738,0.010826,0.014397,-0.003161,0.006314,-0.012269,-0.009303,0.012034,0.001715,-0.004955,0.001098,0.001592,0.000367,0.002729,0.002 844,-0.001142,0.009335,-0.001932
Danish,0.131248,0.135065,0.066378,0.052438,0.04130 3,0.019457,0.005159,0.007401,0.003436,-0.002558,-0.005359,0.00348,-0.008507,-0.007093,0.018669,0.006117,-0.006519,0.002047,0.00324,0.004346,0.00564,0.00243 5,0.000692,0.013774,0.000201
Icelandic,0.132698,0.133626,0.067819,0.05631,0.039 366,0.022962,0.003349,0.008519,0.002642,6.1e-05,-0.005481,0.00517,-0.006368,-0.009083,0.023072,0.005293,-0.011691,0.001911,0.001739,0.003887,0.009255,0.002 803,-0.000842,0.014018,0.000828
Norwegian,0.132092,0.129455,0.068051,0.054531,0.04 0323,0.019871,0.00416,0.006092,0.006151,-0.002287,-0.004644,0.004275,-0.009236,-0.01015,0.020253,0.006557,-0.0072,0.00331,0.002976,0.004108,0.005681,0.00409, 0.000887,0.014107,-6.9e-05
Swedish,0.132193,0.125885,0.072642,0.058972,0.0402 64,0.02079,0.00638,0.009294,0.003649,-0.006663,-0.004203,0.000533,-0.003045,-0.003352,0.014593,0.005865,-0.005106,0.001622,0.002991,0.005015,0.006773,0.002 526,0.001253,0.011594,0.000212
Polish,0.13184,0.12927,0.069868,0.057738,0.040676, 0.021713,0.008678,0.010863,-0.000933,-0.018553,-0.004349,-0.006419,0.013093,0.018629,-0.007024,-0.00056,0.001546,-7.4e-05,0.002695,0.001287,-0.003129,-0.003119,0.005606,-0.003333,-8.8e-05
Polish_Kashubian,0.136588,0.133034,0.07533,0.06435 8,0.044931,0.021196,0.010517,0.01223,-0.003528,-0.021868,-0.004182,-0.005283,0.009217,0.018063,-0.002613,-0.00116,-0.002021,-0.001077,0.003174,0.001782,-0.003338,-0.004792,0.004499,0.001536,0.00021
Polish_Silesian,0.131466,0.130496,0.070522,0.04990 4,0.037545,0.019383,0.004583,0.013038,0.000307,-0.014943,-0.001705,-0.000674,0.002156,0.014794,-0.007057,-0.002585,0.010887,0,-0.00176,0.002126,-0.00156,-0.002349,0.004252,0.007049,-0.000479
SC_Official_AVE_Scaled,0.1269125,0.129988,0.056568 5,0.054587,0.0289285,0.0129685,0.0043475,0.006,0.0 03477,-0.000091,-0.006577,0.0029225,-0.0059465,-0.008051,0.01554,0.001591,0.0012385,0.006271,-0.0027025,0.0055025,0.0092335,-0.0042045,0.0029575,0.015424,0.0021555

Asega

01-01-2025, 10:37 PM

What do you get on the classic Steppe calc?

I get this:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 3.8097% / 0.03809678
53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
35.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
11.2 France_Rochedane

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237

You can also try with swapping in Ostuni1 for Rochedane:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 5.1017% / 0.05101734
54.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
33.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
12.0 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515

Distance to: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.14145541 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.17628712 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1
0.21870658 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.33265485 France_Rochedane

Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 4.8148% / 0.04814806
59.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
27.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
13.2 France_Rochedane

Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 6.4071% / 0.06407097
61.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
25.8 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
12.6 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

Distance to: Asega_scaled
0.02952064 Norwegian
0.03003325 Icelandic
0.03084252 Swedish
0.03421501 Danish
0.03691813 Irish
0.03763814 Shetlandic
0.03838586 Scottish
0.03993830 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.04136781 Dutch
0.04238564 English
0.04395343 Welsh
0.04522813 German_Hamburg
0.04546507 English_Cornwall
0.05022898 French_Brittany
0.05253291 German
0.05630822 German_Erlangen
0.05658576 German_East
0.05839092 BelgianA
0.06222983 French_Seine-Maritime
0.06318254 Polish_Silesian
0.06322209 BelgianB
0.06448952 Polish_Kashubian
0.06454967 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.06591216 French_Nord
0.06798783 Polish

Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12518432 Asega_scaled
0.14145541 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14626788 Polish_Kashubian
0.14691370 Shetlandic
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15040774 Polish_Silesian
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15379892 German_East
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15814252 German_Erlangen
0.15823242 German
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17149021 French_Pas-de-Calais

ScandinavianCelt

01-01-2025, 10:53 PM

Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 4.8148% / 0.04814806
59.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
27.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
13.2 France_Rochedane

Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 6.4071% / 0.06407097
61.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
25.8 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
12.6 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

Distance to: Asega_scaled
0.02952064 Norwegian
0.03003325 Icelandic
0.03084252 Swedish
0.03421501 Danish
0.03691813 Irish
0.03763814 Shetlandic
0.03838586 Scottish
0.03993830 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.04136781 Dutch
0.04238564 English
0.04395343 Welsh
0.04522813 German_Hamburg
0.04546507 English_Cornwall
0.05022898 French_Brittany
0.05253291 German
0.05630822 German_Erlangen
0.05658576 German_East
0.05839092 BelgianA
0.06222983 French_Seine-Maritime
0.06318254 Polish_Silesian
0.06322209 BelgianB
0.06448952 Polish_Kashubian
0.06454967 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.06591216 French_Nord
0.06798783 Polish

Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12518432 Asega_scaled
0.14145541 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14626788 Polish_Kashubian
0.14691370 Shetlandic
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15040774 Polish_Silesian
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15379892 German_East
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15814252 German_Erlangen
0.15823242 German
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17149021 French_Pas-de-Calais

Your Yamnaya score places your genetics in this range:

https://i.postimg.cc/ncDvnKGj/59-4.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Is that accurate?

Which raw data set are you using? Seems very out-of-the-ordinary high for anyone on the forum. Most of us who get most Yamnaya are showing either high Irish or specific Scandinavian sample matches.

ScandinavianCelt

01-01-2025, 10:56 PM

Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 4.8148% / 0.04814806
59.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
27.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
13.2 France_Rochedane

Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 6.4071% / 0.06407097
61.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
25.8 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
12.6 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

Distance to: Asega_scaled
0.02952064 Norwegian
0.03003325 Icelandic
0.03084252 Swedish
0.03421501 Danish
0.03691813 Irish
0.03763814 Shetlandic
0.03838586 Scottish
0.03993830 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.04136781 Dutch
0.04238564 English
0.04395343 Welsh
0.04522813 German_Hamburg
0.04546507 English_Cornwall
0.05022898 French_Brittany
0.05253291 German
0.05630822 German_Erlangen
0.05658576 German_East
0.05839092 BelgianA
0.06222983 French_Seine-Maritime
0.06318254 Polish_Silesian
0.06322209 BelgianB
0.06448952 Polish_Kashubian
0.06454967 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.06591216 French_Nord
0.06798783 Polish

Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12518432 Asega_scaled
0.14145541 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14626788 Polish_Kashubian
0.14691370 Shetlandic
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15040774 Polish_Silesian
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15379892 German_East
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15814252 German_Erlangen
0.15823242 German
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17149021 French_Pas-de-Calais

https://i.postimg.cc/jqprWKPg/yamnaya-closest.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Something doesn't make sense. Are you more eastern than Finnish_East?

Your Barcin plots you with Russian_Tver & Lithuanian_PA, and your Rochedane to Erzya. I'm confused. What is your background?

Asega

01-01-2025, 10:57 PM

Your Yamnaya score places your genetics in this range:

https://i.postimg.cc/ncDvnKGj/59-4.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Is that accurate?

Which raw data set are you using? Seems very out-of-the-ordinary high for anyone on the forum. Most of us who get most Yamnaya are showing either high Irish or specific Scandinavian sample matches.

I match with Scandinavians and Irish, no? Don't get what you mean.

MyHeritage raw data.

Asega

01-01-2025, 10:59 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/jqprWKPg/yamnaya-closest.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Something doesn't make sense. Are you more eastern than Finnish_East?

Not more eastern per PCA but yes, closer in distance to Yamnaya. On PCA I'm chiefly NW Euro.

See profile: West Frisian. Northern Netherlands (Friesland).

ScandinavianCelt

01-01-2025, 11:10 PM

I match with Scandinavians and Irish, no? Don't get what you mean.

MyHeritage raw data.

If you put all modern pop ave scaled in TARGET along with your coordinates, and put the standard Yamnaya-Barcin-Rochedane as SOURCE you can run the MULTI tool and see where you plot for each of your matches. This allows you to see who you are plotting closest to.

I don't think anyone in NW should be getting 59+ on Yamnaya calcs.

Using Swedish, Irish, Norwegian, Scottish, Danish, and Dutch, you plot above every individual sample in all of NW Europe. I think there is an error somewhere.

https://i.postimg.cc/yx1nxLsy/highest-yamnaya-nw.jpg (https://postimg.cc/2btnXFq1)

Asega

01-01-2025, 11:17 PM

If you put all modern pop ave scaled in TARGET along with your coordinates, and put the standard Yamnaya-Barcin-Rochedane as SOURCE you can run the MULTI tool and see where you plot for each of your matches. This allows you to see who you are plotting closest to.

I don't think anyone in NW should be getting 59+ on Yamnaya calcs.

Using Swedish, Irish, Norwegian, Scottish, Danish, and Dutch, you plot above every individual sample in all of NW Europe. I think there is an error somewhere.

https://i.postimg.cc/yx1nxLsy/highest-yamnaya-nw.jpg (https://postimg.cc/2btnXFq1)

I don't think there is an error, otherwise Davidski would have mentioned something was wrong with the file after I sent him the raw data.

ScandinavianCelt

01-01-2025, 11:17 PM

Not more eastern per PCA but yes, closer in distance to Yamnaya. On PCA I'm chiefly NW Euro.

See profile: West Frisian. Northern Netherlands (Friesland).

show me your NO ADC but aggregated result with these:

Norwegian,0.132092,0.129455,0.068051,0.054531,0.04 0323,0.019871,0.00416,0.006092,0.006151,-0.002287,-0.004644,0.004275,-0.009236,-0.01015,0.020253,0.006557,-0.0072,0.00331,0.002976,0.004108,0.005681,0.00409, 0.000887,0.014107,-6.9e-05
Irish,0.133361,0.134098,0.061169,0.048864,0.037788 ,0.019352,0.003293,0.004713,0.003568,0.002927,-0.006971,0.00584,-0.014189,-0.014076,0.025935,0.005215,-0.011145,0.001894,0.000597,0.001776,0.005114,0.001 279,0.000293,0.014407,0.000661
German,0.130299,0.137378,0.057363,0.037865,0.03956 6,0.015146,0.004177,0.005897,0.003746,0.001633,-0.004331,0.002316,-0.005334,-0.001744,0.008738,0.002822,-0.0033,0.001633,0.003531,0.001114,0.002947,0.00180 1,0.000337,0.00836,7.4e-05
German_East,0.130897,0.138493,0.061094,0.049984,0. 038123,0.016141,0.006316,0.007038,0.002199,-0.00492,-0.005217,-0.00178,-3.7e-05,0.008223,0.001306,-0.003132,-0.007905,0.001188,0.005311,-0.00075,0.000624,-0.001113,0.001772,0.001612,-0.000314
German_Erlangen,0.128569,0.137233,0.056163,0.03807 6,0.038593,0.015097,0.004223,0.005442,0.0041,-0.000112,-0.003119,0.00121,-0.003703,0.001892,0.00443,0.001817,-0.001831,0.0018,0.003111,0.000597,-0.000315,0.00136,0.00183,0.006703,2e-06
German_Hamburg,0.128285,0.13399,0.063467,0.048526, 0.040062,0.020375,0.007562,0.009108,0.00296,-0.003559,-0.003878,8.8e-05,-0.00251,0.000753,0.009436,0.003268,-0.004556,0.002556,0.003993,0.000684,0.00174,0.0015 57,0.002719,0.00735,-0.001035
Swiss_German,0.127624,0.140778,0.046009,0.022731,0 .040623,0.007391,0.002791,0.005134,0.008641,0.0121 64,-0.001522,0.005264,-0.01494,-0.008808,0.008364,-0.001127,-0.002591,0.001219,0.005374,-0.000922,0.001934,0.003509,-0.002557,0.006974,-0.00256
Basque_French,0.128051,0.152025,0.055173,0.012823, 0.056411,0.00251,-0.00141,0.003323,0.030597,0.041204,-0.009272,0.010341,-0.020976,-0.014024,0.013219,-0.001936,-0.011917,0.003028,-0.000716,-0.004415,0.010157,0.002485,-0.00864,-0.00917,7.2e-05
French_Alsace,0.127311,0.140372,0.050317,0.022432, 0.038423,0.008911,0.00292,0.004875,0.006852,0.0106 79,-0.003134,0.004578,-0.009444,-0.00417,0.008561,0.003066,-0.004893,0.002439,0.003243,-0.000716,0.002764,0.001156,-0.001322,0.007137,-0.000314
French_Auvergne,0.125416,0.144656,0.04742,0.012992 ,0.043472,0.003997,-0.000339,0.002513,0.015407,0.022172,-0.002466,0.007355,-0.013969,-0.009669,0.008299,0.001483,-0.000787,0.001497,0.003073,-0.000213,0.001858,0.003737,-0.002282,0.001816,-8.9e-05
French_Bearn,0.126799,0.144814,0.053589,0.006008,0 .053949,0.002175,-0.001692,-0.002054,0.024461,0.039891,-0.008866,0.010236,-0.018999,-0.014327,0.014169,0.001578,-0.005724,-0.000899,-0.001735,-0.003302,0.005465,0.003141,-0.006643,-0.00817,0.000683
French_Bigorre,0.128051,0.147353,0.052269,0.00533, 0.052225,-0.000837,-0.001669,0.000162,0.024809,0.03827,-0.003085,0.007883,-0.021481,-0.014148,0.00874,0.000186,-0.003559,0.002369,-0.000892,-0.002914,0.002508,-0.00089,-0.003291,-0.005904,0.00103
French_Brittany,0.131466,0.13834,0.05785,0.039285, 0.039169,0.015813,0.003155,0.004211,0.008186,0.009 49,-0.005131,0.00559,-0.014368,-0.013102,0.018343,0.004399,-0.007302,0.00128,-0.000462,0.001773,0.004467,0.001787,-0.001254,0.010547,0.000659
French_Chalosse,0.128734,0.14776,0.051892,0.011176 ,0.051333,0.002761,0.00047,0.001777,0.025259,0.039 655,-0.002696,0.008947,-0.020337,-0.015083,0.011088,0.002824,-0.005424,0.001672,-0.000779,-0.002239,0.008273,0.002844,-0.007691,-0.007664,-0.002096
French_Corsica,0.120327,0.151822,0.01953,-0.023002,0.035039,-0.01004,-0.001846,-0.000561,0.015705,0.033792,-0.000603,0.007461,-0.013231,-0.007107,-0.004537,-0.000597,0.004042,0.001249,0.002451,-0.003046,-0.000392,0.000247,-0.002579,-0.001386,-0.00053
French_Nord,0.128275,0.140543,0.051357,0.025605,0. 038273,0.008891,0.001097,0.00442,0.008373,0.012016 ,-0.003484,0.004033,-0.010861,-0.008182,0.011199,0.002543,-0.004607,0.002227,0.004095,0.001031,0.002133,0.001 525,-0.001572,0.007471,1.4e-05
French_Occitanie,0.127039,0.144883,0.048879,0.0179 08,0.043376,0.003416,0.000522,0.003891,0.014856,0. 023589,-0.003288,0.006582,-0.015044,-0.009458,0.010737,0.002567,-0.003709,0.002484,0.001425,4.5e-05,0.003671,0.002446,-0.00255,0.001767,0.000422
French_Paris,0.127171,0.141436,0.050431,0.02399,0. 040903,0.009305,0.002799,0.005454,0.011602,0.01817 4,-0.007706,0.006812,-0.012906,-0.010384,0.01377,0.006063,-0.001825,0.004664,0.002708,-0.000978,0.002201,0.003575,-0.001232,0.011141,-0.001905
French_Pas-de-Calais,0.127861,0.140481,0.054305,0.026809,0.04216 2,0.012736,0.004152,0.001308,0.008522,0.012453,-0.008011,0.002198,-0.01001,-0.012019,0.013663,0.008132,-0.000478,0.001816,-0.003645,0.004252,0.009982,0.001443,-0.002547,0.005904,-0.001437
French_Provence,0.121925,0.143847,0.036891,0.00535 8,0.036858,0.00233,0.002267,0.003638,0.010058,0.02 0453,-0.003869,0.007211,-0.012138,-0.010961,0.005956,0.003174,0.001097,0.002809,0.001 775,-0.001515,0.001541,0.002735,0.000355,0.005444,3.5e-05
French_Seine-Maritime,0.136019,0.137096,0.045254,0.029555,0.039 084,0.016733,0.00423,-0.000692,0.003988,0.006014,-0.003735,0.007493,-0.007582,-0.001651,0.014251,0.003514,-0.007953,-0.002344,0.000943,-0.005002,0.003931,0.005503,0.000863,0.004278,-0.004491
French_South,0.126181,0.144785,0.049618,0.00886,0. 050691,0.002669,0.000269,0.002275,0.02764,0.03866,-0.006774,0.007365,-0.021853,-0.013566,0.010373,0.002765,-0.005104,0.001792,0.000215,0.001912,0.004991,-0.00083,-0.005264,-0.007557,-0.00142
Swiss_French,0.12734,0.14484,0.041436,0.010215,0.0 41162,0.006484,0.000823,0.002884,0.011811,0.019431 ,-0.000751,0.006594,-0.015962,-0.012524,0.008347,0.002171,0.005753,-0.001615,0.003661,-0.000344,0.004788,0.003648,0.001664,0.002576,-0.000479
Danish,0.131248,0.135065,0.066378,0.052438,0.04130 3,0.019457,0.005159,0.007401,0.003436,-0.002558,-0.005359,0.00348,-0.008507,-0.007093,0.018669,0.006117,-0.006519,0.002047,0.00324,0.004346,0.00564,0.00243 5,0.000692,0.013774,0.000201
Dutch,0.127441,0.134179,0.060271,0.044076,0.040844 ,0.016397,0.005402,0.007263,0.004209,0.001924,-0.005635,0.004427,-0.009846,-0.008676,0.01783,0.005623,-0.006516,0.001748,0.003909,0.002816,0.00448,0.0033 85,-5e-06,0.013892,-0.000656
Finnish_Central,0.13077,0.086658,0.089419,0.07831, 0.029544,0.02414,0.010419,0.015025,0.003159,-0.024055,0.003609,-0.006394,0.012768,0.005459,0.002021,0.00056,-0.007186,-0.000451,-5.6e-05,0.002626,0.008083,-0.001869,0.001479,0.008649,0.004338
Finnish_East,0.125855,0.078776,0.094388,0.083842,0 .02739,0.020877,0.007554,0.013945,0.004587,-0.03059,0.007377,-0.0079,0.016225,0.002084,-0.004072,0.008902,0.011008,-0.001647,-0.001365,0.006021,0.009751,0.001131,0.001197,0.008 005,0.00207
Finnish_North,0.128762,0.078323,0.093149,0.079014, 0.027505,0.024577,0.00893,0.015201,0.004704,-0.02754,0.004811,-0.007025,0.016241,0.00812,0.001035,-0.007955,-0.017227,0.001283,-0.000628,0.002376,0.009249,0.000495,0.000632,0.005 859,0.005688
Finnish_Southeast,0.132035,0.09072,0.088456,0.0771 97,0.033271,0.021072,0.009139,0.014051,0.002818,-0.021828,0.003103,-0.005861,0.011513,0.002982,0.001764,0.012714,0.012 821,-0.000985,-0.001508,0.008254,0.008111,-0.000769,0.002054,0.008796,-0.000971
Finnish_Southwest,0.131323,0.096856,0.086313,0.072 11,0.033737,0.022974,0.008549,0.014047,0.004474,-0.020889,0.003897,-0.005807,0.011465,0.008584,0.005293,-0.008569,-0.020112,0.001441,0.001587,-0.000219,0.006863,0.000526,0.002773,0.005121,0.003 907
Swedish,0.132193,0.125885,0.072642,0.058972,0.0402 64,0.02079,0.00638,0.009294,0.003649,-0.006663,-0.004203,0.000533,-0.003045,-0.003352,0.014593,0.005865,-0.005106,0.001622,0.002991,0.005015,0.006773,0.002 526,0.001253,0.011594,0.000212

I get this:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 1.8913% / 0.01891308
55.6 Irish
16.4 French_Provence
12.0 Finnish_East
9.2 German_East
6.8 Finnish_Southeast

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 1.9674% / 0.01967383 | ADC: 0.5x RC
54.4 Irish
30.8 German_Erlangen
14.8 Finnish_Southeast

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.3061% / 0.02306064 | ADC: 2x RC
50.6 Danish
49.4 Dutch

Asega

01-01-2025, 11:19 PM

show me your NO ADC but aggregated result with these:

Norwegian,0.132092,0.129455,0.068051,0.054531,0.04 0323,0.019871,0.00416,0.006092,0.006151,-0.002287,-0.004644,0.004275,-0.009236,-0.01015,0.020253,0.006557,-0.0072,0.00331,0.002976,0.004108,0.005681,0.00409, 0.000887,0.014107,-6.9e-05
Irish,0.133361,0.134098,0.061169,0.048864,0.037788 ,0.019352,0.003293,0.004713,0.003568,0.002927,-0.006971,0.00584,-0.014189,-0.014076,0.025935,0.005215,-0.011145,0.001894,0.000597,0.001776,0.005114,0.001 279,0.000293,0.014407,0.000661
German,0.130299,0.137378,0.057363,0.037865,0.03956 6,0.015146,0.004177,0.005897,0.003746,0.001633,-0.004331,0.002316,-0.005334,-0.001744,0.008738,0.002822,-0.0033,0.001633,0.003531,0.001114,0.002947,0.00180 1,0.000337,0.00836,7.4e-05
German_East,0.130897,0.138493,0.061094,0.049984,0. 038123,0.016141,0.006316,0.007038,0.002199,-0.00492,-0.005217,-0.00178,-3.7e-05,0.008223,0.001306,-0.003132,-0.007905,0.001188,0.005311,-0.00075,0.000624,-0.001113,0.001772,0.001612,-0.000314
German_Erlangen,0.128569,0.137233,0.056163,0.03807 6,0.038593,0.015097,0.004223,0.005442,0.0041,-0.000112,-0.003119,0.00121,-0.003703,0.001892,0.00443,0.001817,-0.001831,0.0018,0.003111,0.000597,-0.000315,0.00136,0.00183,0.006703,2e-06
German_Hamburg,0.128285,0.13399,0.063467,0.048526, 0.040062,0.020375,0.007562,0.009108,0.00296,-0.003559,-0.003878,8.8e-05,-0.00251,0.000753,0.009436,0.003268,-0.004556,0.002556,0.003993,0.000684,0.00174,0.0015 57,0.002719,0.00735,-0.001035
Swiss_German,0.127624,0.140778,0.046009,0.022731,0 .040623,0.007391,0.002791,0.005134,0.008641,0.0121 64,-0.001522,0.005264,-0.01494,-0.008808,0.008364,-0.001127,-0.002591,0.001219,0.005374,-0.000922,0.001934,0.003509,-0.002557,0.006974,-0.00256
Basque_French,0.128051,0.152025,0.055173,0.012823, 0.056411,0.00251,-0.00141,0.003323,0.030597,0.041204,-0.009272,0.010341,-0.020976,-0.014024,0.013219,-0.001936,-0.011917,0.003028,-0.000716,-0.004415,0.010157,0.002485,-0.00864,-0.00917,7.2e-05
French_Alsace,0.127311,0.140372,0.050317,0.022432, 0.038423,0.008911,0.00292,0.004875,0.006852,0.0106 79,-0.003134,0.004578,-0.009444,-0.00417,0.008561,0.003066,-0.004893,0.002439,0.003243,-0.000716,0.002764,0.001156,-0.001322,0.007137,-0.000314
French_Auvergne,0.125416,0.144656,0.04742,0.012992 ,0.043472,0.003997,-0.000339,0.002513,0.015407,0.022172,-0.002466,0.007355,-0.013969,-0.009669,0.008299,0.001483,-0.000787,0.001497,0.003073,-0.000213,0.001858,0.003737,-0.002282,0.001816,-8.9e-05
French_Bearn,0.126799,0.144814,0.053589,0.006008,0 .053949,0.002175,-0.001692,-0.002054,0.024461,0.039891,-0.008866,0.010236,-0.018999,-0.014327,0.014169,0.001578,-0.005724,-0.000899,-0.001735,-0.003302,0.005465,0.003141,-0.006643,-0.00817,0.000683
French_Bigorre,0.128051,0.147353,0.052269,0.00533, 0.052225,-0.000837,-0.001669,0.000162,0.024809,0.03827,-0.003085,0.007883,-0.021481,-0.014148,0.00874,0.000186,-0.003559,0.002369,-0.000892,-0.002914,0.002508,-0.00089,-0.003291,-0.005904,0.00103
French_Brittany,0.131466,0.13834,0.05785,0.039285, 0.039169,0.015813,0.003155,0.004211,0.008186,0.009 49,-0.005131,0.00559,-0.014368,-0.013102,0.018343,0.004399,-0.007302,0.00128,-0.000462,0.001773,0.004467,0.001787,-0.001254,0.010547,0.000659
French_Chalosse,0.128734,0.14776,0.051892,0.011176 ,0.051333,0.002761,0.00047,0.001777,0.025259,0.039 655,-0.002696,0.008947,-0.020337,-0.015083,0.011088,0.002824,-0.005424,0.001672,-0.000779,-0.002239,0.008273,0.002844,-0.007691,-0.007664,-0.002096
French_Corsica,0.120327,0.151822,0.01953,-0.023002,0.035039,-0.01004,-0.001846,-0.000561,0.015705,0.033792,-0.000603,0.007461,-0.013231,-0.007107,-0.004537,-0.000597,0.004042,0.001249,0.002451,-0.003046,-0.000392,0.000247,-0.002579,-0.001386,-0.00053
French_Nord,0.128275,0.140543,0.051357,0.025605,0. 038273,0.008891,0.001097,0.00442,0.008373,0.012016 ,-0.003484,0.004033,-0.010861,-0.008182,0.011199,0.002543,-0.004607,0.002227,0.004095,0.001031,0.002133,0.001 525,-0.001572,0.007471,1.4e-05
French_Occitanie,0.127039,0.144883,0.048879,0.0179 08,0.043376,0.003416,0.000522,0.003891,0.014856,0. 023589,-0.003288,0.006582,-0.015044,-0.009458,0.010737,0.002567,-0.003709,0.002484,0.001425,4.5e-05,0.003671,0.002446,-0.00255,0.001767,0.000422
French_Paris,0.127171,0.141436,0.050431,0.02399,0. 040903,0.009305,0.002799,0.005454,0.011602,0.01817 4,-0.007706,0.006812,-0.012906,-0.010384,0.01377,0.006063,-0.001825,0.004664,0.002708,-0.000978,0.002201,0.003575,-0.001232,0.011141,-0.001905
French_Pas-de-Calais,0.127861,0.140481,0.054305,0.026809,0.04216 2,0.012736,0.004152,0.001308,0.008522,0.012453,-0.008011,0.002198,-0.01001,-0.012019,0.013663,0.008132,-0.000478,0.001816,-0.003645,0.004252,0.009982,0.001443,-0.002547,0.005904,-0.001437
French_Provence,0.121925,0.143847,0.036891,0.00535 8,0.036858,0.00233,0.002267,0.003638,0.010058,0.02 0453,-0.003869,0.007211,-0.012138,-0.010961,0.005956,0.003174,0.001097,0.002809,0.001 775,-0.001515,0.001541,0.002735,0.000355,0.005444,3.5e-05
French_Seine-Maritime,0.136019,0.137096,0.045254,0.029555,0.039 084,0.016733,0.00423,-0.000692,0.003988,0.006014,-0.003735,0.007493,-0.007582,-0.001651,0.014251,0.003514,-0.007953,-0.002344,0.000943,-0.005002,0.003931,0.005503,0.000863,0.004278,-0.004491
French_South,0.126181,0.144785,0.049618,0.00886,0. 050691,0.002669,0.000269,0.002275,0.02764,0.03866,-0.006774,0.007365,-0.021853,-0.013566,0.010373,0.002765,-0.005104,0.001792,0.000215,0.001912,0.004991,-0.00083,-0.005264,-0.007557,-0.00142
Swiss_French,0.12734,0.14484,0.041436,0.010215,0.0 41162,0.006484,0.000823,0.002884,0.011811,0.019431 ,-0.000751,0.006594,-0.015962,-0.012524,0.008347,0.002171,0.005753,-0.001615,0.003661,-0.000344,0.004788,0.003648,0.001664,0.002576,-0.000479
Danish,0.131248,0.135065,0.066378,0.052438,0.04130 3,0.019457,0.005159,0.007401,0.003436,-0.002558,-0.005359,0.00348,-0.008507,-0.007093,0.018669,0.006117,-0.006519,0.002047,0.00324,0.004346,0.00564,0.00243 5,0.000692,0.013774,0.000201
Dutch,0.127441,0.134179,0.060271,0.044076,0.040844 ,0.016397,0.005402,0.007263,0.004209,0.001924,-0.005635,0.004427,-0.009846,-0.008676,0.01783,0.005623,-0.006516,0.001748,0.003909,0.002816,0.00448,0.0033 85,-5e-06,0.013892,-0.000656
Finnish_Central,0.13077,0.086658,0.089419,0.07831, 0.029544,0.02414,0.010419,0.015025,0.003159,-0.024055,0.003609,-0.006394,0.012768,0.005459,0.002021,0.00056,-0.007186,-0.000451,-5.6e-05,0.002626,0.008083,-0.001869,0.001479,0.008649,0.004338
Finnish_East,0.125855,0.078776,0.094388,0.083842,0 .02739,0.020877,0.007554,0.013945,0.004587,-0.03059,0.007377,-0.0079,0.016225,0.002084,-0.004072,0.008902,0.011008,-0.001647,-0.001365,0.006021,0.009751,0.001131,0.001197,0.008 005,0.00207
Finnish_North,0.128762,0.078323,0.093149,0.079014, 0.027505,0.024577,0.00893,0.015201,0.004704,-0.02754,0.004811,-0.007025,0.016241,0.00812,0.001035,-0.007955,-0.017227,0.001283,-0.000628,0.002376,0.009249,0.000495,0.000632,0.005 859,0.005688
Finnish_Southeast,0.132035,0.09072,0.088456,0.0771 97,0.033271,0.021072,0.009139,0.014051,0.002818,-0.021828,0.003103,-0.005861,0.011513,0.002982,0.001764,0.012714,0.012 821,-0.000985,-0.001508,0.008254,0.008111,-0.000769,0.002054,0.008796,-0.000971
Finnish_Southwest,0.131323,0.096856,0.086313,0.072 11,0.033737,0.022974,0.008549,0.014047,0.004474,-0.020889,0.003897,-0.005807,0.011465,0.008584,0.005293,-0.008569,-0.020112,0.001441,0.001587,-0.000219,0.006863,0.000526,0.002773,0.005121,0.003 907
Swedish,0.132193,0.125885,0.072642,0.058972,0.0402 64,0.02079,0.00638,0.009294,0.003649,-0.006663,-0.004203,0.000533,-0.003045,-0.003352,0.014593,0.005865,-0.005106,0.001622,0.002991,0.005015,0.006773,0.002 526,0.001253,0.011594,0.000212

I get this:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 1.8913% / 0.01891308
55.6 Irish
16.4 French_Provence
12.0 Finnish_East
9.2 German_East
6.8 Finnish_Southeast

Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 2.5634% / 0.02563378
66.6 Irish
25.6 Finnish_East
7.8 Norwegian

Like I said, Irish plus Finnish.

ScandinavianCelt

01-01-2025, 11:41 PM

Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 2.5634% / 0.02563378
66.6 Irish
25.6 Finnish_East
7.8 Norwegian

Like I said, Irish plus Finnish.

Nice mix, but confusing, as FULL east Finns score 58+. It's a mystery.

Asega

01-01-2025, 11:49 PM

Nice mix, but confusing, as FULL east Finns score 58+. It's a mystery.

Haha. It's an abstract of the model. Finns have Uralic ancestry, and when not accounted for, boosts the Steppe artificially.

My take on this is that it's just sheer coincidence. I plot in the Vahaduo PCA among a subset Anglo-Saxons who carry basically the same levels of Steppe ancestry and/or high WHG ancestry.

The Anglo-Saxons from England and the Frisians descend from the same Early Medieval founder population. Frisians genetically remained the the same since then. England is a different story obviously.

If you go back further time, there is a LNBA continuity in the southern North Sea region (Netherlands, Northwestern Germany, Denmark) stretching back to Single Grave and their Bell Beaker heirs.

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 12:07 AM

Haha. It's an abstract of the model. Finns have Uralic ancestry, and when not accounted for, boosts the Steppe artificially.

My take on this is that it's just sheer coincidence. I plot in the Vahaduo PCA among a subset Anglo-Saxons who carry basically the same levels of Steppe ancestry and/or high WHG ancestry.

The Anglo-Saxons from England and the Frisians descend from the same Early Medieval founder population. Frisians genetically remained the the same since then. England is a different story obviously.

I matched this sample on DNAGenics Ancient Europe report and wonder if you match it? If you don't know, you can check the distance at least to you:

Netherlands_BellBeaker:I4074,0.126344,0.118817,0.0 52043,0.079781,0.017542,0.02259,-0.00235,-0.000923,-0.015135,-0.015126,-0.000974,0.003597,-0.007582,-0.015414,0.022801,0.007955,-0.002608,0.000887,0.002388,0.008129,0.009858,-0.000618,-0.00493,0.007832,0.000479

I get this:

Distance to: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.04541222 Netherlands_BellBeaker:I4074

They are high Yamnaya:

Target: Netherlands_BellBeaker:I4074
Distance: 2.5752% / 0.02575188
64.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
24.2 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
11.0 France_Rochedane

Vessna

01-02-2025, 12:09 AM

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 7.9853% / 0.07985337
47.4 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
41.6 Anatolia_15KYA
10.8 Caucasus_15KYA
0.2 Southern_Europe_15KYA

Asega

01-02-2025, 12:11 AM

I matched this sample on DNAGenics Ancient Europe report and wonder if you match it? If you don't know, you can check the distance at least to you:

Netherlands_BellBeaker:I4074,0.126344,0.118817,0.0 52043,0.079781,0.017542,0.02259,-0.00235,-0.000923,-0.015135,-0.015126,-0.000974,0.003597,-0.007582,-0.015414,0.022801,0.007955,-0.002608,0.000887,0.002388,0.008129,0.009858,-0.000618,-0.00493,0.007832,0.000479

I get this:

Distance to: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.04541222 Netherlands_BellBeaker:I4074

They are high Yamnaya:

Target: Netherlands_BellBeaker:I4074
Distance: 2.5752% / 0.02575188
64.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
24.2 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
11.0 France_Rochedane

Distance to: Asega_scaled
0.03652290 Netherlands_BellBeaker:I4074

Yeah, Dutch Beakers were loaded with Steppe ancestry. Most of the samples have more Steppe ancestry than me.

We both derive ancestry from them obviously. They (Single Grave/Bell Beaker) are the ancestors of NW Europeans, as well the source for our Y-DNA (both P312 and U106).

Like I said, there is a LNBA continuity in NW Europe, we barely changed genetically in the last 4k years.

Vessna

01-02-2025, 12:12 AM

Target: husband _scaled (Rus)
Distance: 7.0144% / 0.07014406
49.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
31.0 Anatolia_15KYA
10.2 Caucasus_15KYA
3.2 Levant_15KYA
2.6 Southern_Europe_15KYA
2.2 Taiwan_Strait_15KYA
1.2 Iran_15KYA

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 12:25 AM

Distance to: Asega_scaled
0.03652290 Netherlands_BellBeaker:I4074

Yeah, Dutch Beakers were loaded with Steppe ancestry. Most of the samples have more Steppe ancestry than me.

We both derive ancestry from them obviously. They (Single Grave/Bell Beaker) are the ancestors of NW Europeans, as well the source for our Y-DNA (both P312 and U106).

Like I said, there is a LNBA continuity in NW Europe, we barely changed genetically in the last 4k years.

I'm not sure how dependable myheritage raw data is nowadays but you might want to try ancestry or 23andMe or even get your whole genome tested because it's very strange to me because you should have basically less than a quarter more than the Irish average if you're a quarter finish East so you should only show something similar to my score but you don't and so something is strange and I don't know what it is

Asega

01-02-2025, 12:32 AM

I'm not sure how dependable myheritage raw data is nowadays but you might want to try ancestry or 23andMe or even get your whole genome tested because it's very strange to me because you should have basically less than a quarter more than the Irish average if you're a quarter finish East so you should only show something similar to my score but you don't and so something is strange and I don't know what it is

I think it's an artefact of the method: Dutch Beakers get modelled as basically 3/4 Irish and 1/4 Finnish.

Theoretically, when Davidski brings out an improved tool (keep in mind G25 only uses 300k snps) and/or my whole genome get's tested and used in formal stats, I won't see any Finnish affinity.

Who knows what will happen in the future. I don't think I will pursue WGS sequencing, but probably will use Davidski's new tool if he makes it available to the public.

R1b-L51

01-02-2025, 01:14 AM

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 5.3657% / 0.05365740
55.6 Anatolia_15KYA
16.4 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
12.8 Caucasus_15KYA
6.2 Southern_Europe_15KYA
4.4 North_Africa_15KYA
3.6 Iran_15KYA
1.0 Levant_15KYA

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.13879092 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
0.22190390 Magdalenian_North_15KYA:Goughs
0.22932023 Magdalenian_West_15KYA:Belgium
0.23705199 Levant_15KYA:Natufian
0.26280807 Magdalenian_South_15KYA:ElMiron
0.27212213 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
0.29864235 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001
0.31206334 Iran_15KYA:WC1
0.32146043 Southwest_Europe_15KYA:BAL051
0.34603281 Caucasus_15KYA:SATP
0.36606255 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna
0.37896858 North_Eurasia_15KYA:AG3
0.37925311 Northwest_Europe_15KYA:Kendricks
0.38039814 Magdalenian_Center_15KYA:OKL001
0.39216245 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Italy_WHG
0.43000694 Southeast_Asia_15KYA:Hoabinhian
0.43607992 North_Siberia_15KYA:yak025
0.44334538 North_Africa_15KYA:Taforalt
0.46878140 Western_Europe_15KYA:RochedaneBichon
0.48523418 South_Siberia_15KYA:UKY001
0.48944884 Southeast_Asia_15KYA:Leang_Panninge
0.51299599 Japan_15KYA:JpKa6904
0.51406374 East_Siberia:Ust_Kyakhta
0.52448014 Alaska_Beringia_15KYA:USR1
0.55016595 Taiwan_Strait_15KYA:tai002

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 01:24 AM

I think it's an artefact of the method: Dutch Beakers get modelled as basically 3/4 Irish and 1/4 Finnish.

Theoretically, when Davidski brings out an improved tool (keep in mind G25 only uses 300k snps) and/or my whole genome get's tested and used in formal stats, I won't see any Finnish affinity.

Who knows what will happen in the future. I don't think I will pursue WGS sequencing, but probably will use Davidski's new tool if he makes it available to the public.

try this, NO ADC: can you show me aggregate and not aggregate?

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18793,0.126344,0.089367,0.03 6581,0.099161,-0.013541,0.040718,0.007755,0.004154,-0.040291,-0.06032,-0.005196,0.002548,0.002527,-0.019542,0.020765,0.00358,-0.017602,-0.003167,0.003394,0.017759,-0.000624,-0.006677,0.010969,0.012773,0.001676
Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18794,0.120652,0.120848,0.04 2615,0.063308,0.003385,0.032909,0.01081,0.004615,-0.04295,-0.038999,0.005521,-0.007044,0.000149,-0.012524,0.022258,0.013392,-0.002086,-0.001647,0.001006,-0.001626,-0.007612,-0.014591,0.008627,0.006868,0.008382
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5117,0.120652,0.1 635,0.031678,-0.058463,0.076937,-0.023985,-0.00282,-0.006461,0.041109,0.071983,-0.003085,0.002098,-0.023934,-0.000963,-0.027823,0.023999,0.033769,0.007981,0.006662,-0.012506,-0.011729,0.014962,-0.009367,-0.003976,-0.001557
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5118,0.119514,0.1 66547,0.023004,-0.05491,0.070782,-0.02761,-0.00564,0.007154,0.049086,0.072894,0.002598,0.0179 84,-0.020515,-0.007707,-0.02728,0.018828,0.026729,0.00228,0.014078,-0.003502,0.00025,0.008408,-0.010599,-0.016388,-0.002155
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5119,0.120652,0.1 77718,0.027907,-0.059109,0.065243,-0.029841,-0.000235,-0.002077,0.033337,0.08474,0.003248,0.012739,-0.015461,0.012386,-0.032709,-0.004243,0.015776,-0.00076,0.011941,-0.005753,-0.008111,0.000371,-0.000493,-0.014219,0.00491
Kazakhstan_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:Damgaard2018Yamnaya_noUD G.SG,0.120652,0.081242,0.039975,0.10756,-0.020927,0.047411,-0.00282,-0.00923,-0.054608,-0.068339,-0.00682,-0.00045,-0.003122,-0.026699,0.036509,0.015248,0.004042,-0.005828,-0.011816,0.006128,-0.005865,-0.00136,0.008258,0.028317,-0.013771
Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:RK1001,0.118376,0.0842 89,0.037335,0.11402,-0.038776,0.040718,0.012926,-0.002769,-0.06013,-0.070708,0.003085,-0.002248,0.001784,-0.021607,0.03963,0.015513,0.002608,0.00152,-0.003017,0.004252,-0.003119,0.007172,0.005793,0.018436,-0.010777
Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:RK1007,0.10927,0.07108 7,0.019233,0.112728,-0.043393,0.037092,-0.00282,-0.011307,-0.064834,-0.080731,-0.007957,-0.008093,-0.002825,-0.037571,0.03108,0.012066,-0.017602,-0.006208,-0.011816,0.002501,0.00861,0.005441,0.004067,0.0071 09,-0.002994
Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:ZO2002,0.120652,0.0863 2,0.029415,0.099807,-0.028928,0.044344,0.00611,-0.003231,-0.055426,-0.069067,0.002273,-0.010041,-0.003419,-0.010322,0.029316,-0.006629,-0.022556,-0.002914,-0.008422,0.004752,-0.004243,0.009769,0.011955,0.012411,-0.003952
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE240_noUDG.SG,0. 118376,0.084289,0.04714,0.113697,-0.02462,0.027331,0.00799,0,-0.050517,-0.063965,0.00065,0.002548,0.001784,-0.025735,0.03393,0.006364,0.01004,-0.005954,-0.008422,0.02001,-0.013476,-0.005688,0.015652,0.023979,0.006347
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE546_noUDG.SG,0. 103579,0.088351,0.061094,0.120803,-0.028928,0.044901,0.001175,-0.005769,-0.066879,-0.087838,-0.006008,3.00E-04,-0.001635,-0.024772,0.004886,0.012729,0.008605,0.005828,-0.001885,0.003627,-0.00287,-0.008408,0.027238,0.02892,-0.018801
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE547_noUDG.SG,0. 118376,0.09546,0.045632,0.118219,-0.031083,0.039324,0.00658,-0.004615,-0.042132,-0.072894,-0.002761,0.000899,-0.000743,-0.024634,0.034609,0.00411,-0.014342,0.001267,0.00905,0.007754,-0.005366,-0.000247,0.005793,0.017834,-0.006826
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE550_noUDG.SG,0. 125205,0.096475,0.04714,0.10756,-0.02462,0.04267,0.000705,-0.008307,-0.048063,-0.070525,0.003248,-0.003297,-0.008028,-0.017203,0.035559,0.019756,0.002217,-0.005068,0.001634,0.009254,0.000125,0.006925,0.021 815,0.01446,0.002994
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE552_noUDG.SG,0. 10927,0.089367,0.034318,0.107883,-0.036007,0.051874,0.00564,0.000462,-0.061766,-0.082917,0.001461,0.003297,-0.002527,-0.026424,0.031759,0.019358,0.00352,-0.003041,-0.000377,0.010505,-0.002246,-0.000124,0.004437,0.022774,-0.004191
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0231,0.124067,0.081242, 0.0445,0.114666,-0.034468,0.049364,-0.00188,-0.007846,-0.052972,-0.073441,0.003735,0.005845,0.00223,-0.023671,0.034202,0.024662,0.007302,0.000253,0.003 142,0.013131,-0.006988,0.004328,0.002218,0.011929,-0.000239
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0357,0.126344,0.091398, 0.038843,0.109821,-0.029544,0.040718,0.006345,-0.00923,-0.040905,-0.065969,-0.001299,-0.001798,-0.003717,-0.02257,0.03678,0.02148,0.001825,0.005321,-0.004651,0.003126,0.004118,0.00643,0.008874,0.0145 8,-0.005508
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0370,0.124067,0.085304, 0.048271,0.113051,-0.027082,0.04267,0.00705,-0.001385,-0.064016,-0.069432,0.000487,-0.000899,0.004014,-0.029451,0.037595,0.013126,0.004563,-0.000633,-0.007039,0.015132,0.003369,-0.009892,0.009613,0.022533,-0.003113
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0429,0.132035,0.089367, 0.042615,0.13017,-0.02739,0.049364,0.007755,0.001846,-0.059925,-0.076175,0.001461,-0.007194,0.002973,-0.015689,0.040445,0.021347,0.004955,0,0.008547,0.0 2101,-0.003244,0.004328,0.022678,0.017111,-0.01437
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0438,0.124067,0.088351, 0.042615,0.118865,-0.029236,0.048527,0.00047,0.001154,-0.062789,-0.07745,0.001461,0.005695,-0.005946,-0.027387,0.033387,0.005038,0.007953,-0.007221,-0.003897,0.017759,-0.001373,0.000742,0.017255,0.023979,-0.005508
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0439,0.127482,0.09546,0 .037712,0.113374,-0.018157,0.033467,0.0047,-0.005077,-0.053176,-0.057587,0.003085,-0.002098,-0.006541,-0.025598,0.038952,0.01432,-0.001434,-0.007095,-0.001257,0.018259,-0.001872,0.006801,0.016269,0.025546,-0.009819
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0443,0.125205,0.091398, 0.039975,0.111436,-0.028005,0.046575,0.00564,-0.005769,-0.052563,-0.081642,0.002111,-0.00015,0.001041,-0.01968,0.042616,0.004773,-0.016428,0.00038,-0.001257,0.009379,0.003868,-0.002226,0.000986,0.01699,0.002275
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0444,0.126344,0.087336, 0.048271,0.116927,-0.02462,0.04769,0.00564,-0.000231,-0.049904,-0.072894,-0.000812,-3.00E-04,0.003122,-0.039498,0.030266,0.020684,0.000261,0.000887,-0.007039,0.00988,-0.014974,0.002968,0.011092,0.019039,0.003353
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I7489,0.122929,0.093429, 0.043369,0.11079,-0.032314,0.043786,0.0047,0,-0.057471,-0.082371,0.006496,0.004046,-0.012042,-0.008945,0.041123,0.016176,-0.008996,-0.005194,-0.001885,0.004877,-0.010981,-0.001113,0.012078,0.014219,-0.007784
Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya:I11446,0.127482,0.097491,0.0437 46,0.081719,-0.013541,0.039602,0.028671,0.002077,-0.036405,-0.066698,-0.000487,-0.001948,-0.007582,-0.017065,0.030673,0.029435,0.009518,-0.006208,-0.008296,0.014257,-0.011355,-0.014096,0.009983,0.032896,-0.010418
Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya:I2105,0.118376,0.090382,0.0403 52,0.110144,-0.032621,0.038766,0.006815,0.003461,-0.056244,-0.076175,-0.00065,0.00015,-0.002527,-0.022432,0.031759,0.013789,0.002477,-0.005321,-0.002891,0.017133,0.004492,0.003339,0.003451,0.020 967,0.002155
Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya:I3141_enhanced,0.121791,0.0924 13,0.053928,0.105299,-0.048317,0.041834,0.004465,0.011538,-0.058289,-0.080731,-0.001461,0.014387,0.013677,-0.010459,0.010993,0.003978,-0.018775,0.004814,0.005531,0.002626,-0.017469,0.017435,0.008627,0.019641,-0.011256
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113

Mine: 58.8% Dairy-lover

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.6033% / 0.02603342
35.4 Gibraltar_EN
15.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya:I11446
11.8 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE240_noUDG.SG
10.0 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE546_noUDG.SG
8.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0439
6.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18794
5.8 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
4.2 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE547_noUDG.SG
2.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0443
0.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0370

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.6033% / 0.02603342
35.4 Gibraltar_EN
26.0 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
15.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
11.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
6.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
5.8 France_Rochedane

Asega

01-02-2025, 01:33 AM

try this, NO ADC: can you show me aggregate and not aggregate?

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18793,0.126344,0.089367,0.03 6581,0.099161,-0.013541,0.040718,0.007755,0.004154,-0.040291,-0.06032,-0.005196,0.002548,0.002527,-0.019542,0.020765,0.00358,-0.017602,-0.003167,0.003394,0.017759,-0.000624,-0.006677,0.010969,0.012773,0.001676
Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18794,0.120652,0.120848,0.04 2615,0.063308,0.003385,0.032909,0.01081,0.004615,-0.04295,-0.038999,0.005521,-0.007044,0.000149,-0.012524,0.022258,0.013392,-0.002086,-0.001647,0.001006,-0.001626,-0.007612,-0.014591,0.008627,0.006868,0.008382
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5117,0.120652,0.1 635,0.031678,-0.058463,0.076937,-0.023985,-0.00282,-0.006461,0.041109,0.071983,-0.003085,0.002098,-0.023934,-0.000963,-0.027823,0.023999,0.033769,0.007981,0.006662,-0.012506,-0.011729,0.014962,-0.009367,-0.003976,-0.001557
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5118,0.119514,0.1 66547,0.023004,-0.05491,0.070782,-0.02761,-0.00564,0.007154,0.049086,0.072894,0.002598,0.0179 84,-0.020515,-0.007707,-0.02728,0.018828,0.026729,0.00228,0.014078,-0.003502,0.00025,0.008408,-0.010599,-0.016388,-0.002155
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5119,0.120652,0.1 77718,0.027907,-0.059109,0.065243,-0.029841,-0.000235,-0.002077,0.033337,0.08474,0.003248,0.012739,-0.015461,0.012386,-0.032709,-0.004243,0.015776,-0.00076,0.011941,-0.005753,-0.008111,0.000371,-0.000493,-0.014219,0.00491
Kazakhstan_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:Damgaard2018Yamnaya_noUD G.SG,0.120652,0.081242,0.039975,0.10756,-0.020927,0.047411,-0.00282,-0.00923,-0.054608,-0.068339,-0.00682,-0.00045,-0.003122,-0.026699,0.036509,0.015248,0.004042,-0.005828,-0.011816,0.006128,-0.005865,-0.00136,0.008258,0.028317,-0.013771
Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:RK1001,0.118376,0.0842 89,0.037335,0.11402,-0.038776,0.040718,0.012926,-0.002769,-0.06013,-0.070708,0.003085,-0.002248,0.001784,-0.021607,0.03963,0.015513,0.002608,0.00152,-0.003017,0.004252,-0.003119,0.007172,0.005793,0.018436,-0.010777
Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:RK1007,0.10927,0.07108 7,0.019233,0.112728,-0.043393,0.037092,-0.00282,-0.011307,-0.064834,-0.080731,-0.007957,-0.008093,-0.002825,-0.037571,0.03108,0.012066,-0.017602,-0.006208,-0.011816,0.002501,0.00861,0.005441,0.004067,0.0071 09,-0.002994
Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:ZO2002,0.120652,0.0863 2,0.029415,0.099807,-0.028928,0.044344,0.00611,-0.003231,-0.055426,-0.069067,0.002273,-0.010041,-0.003419,-0.010322,0.029316,-0.006629,-0.022556,-0.002914,-0.008422,0.004752,-0.004243,0.009769,0.011955,0.012411,-0.003952
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE240_noUDG.SG,0. 118376,0.084289,0.04714,0.113697,-0.02462,0.027331,0.00799,0,-0.050517,-0.063965,0.00065,0.002548,0.001784,-0.025735,0.03393,0.006364,0.01004,-0.005954,-0.008422,0.02001,-0.013476,-0.005688,0.015652,0.023979,0.006347
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE546_noUDG.SG,0. 103579,0.088351,0.061094,0.120803,-0.028928,0.044901,0.001175,-0.005769,-0.066879,-0.087838,-0.006008,3.00E-04,-0.001635,-0.024772,0.004886,0.012729,0.008605,0.005828,-0.001885,0.003627,-0.00287,-0.008408,0.027238,0.02892,-0.018801
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE547_noUDG.SG,0. 118376,0.09546,0.045632,0.118219,-0.031083,0.039324,0.00658,-0.004615,-0.042132,-0.072894,-0.002761,0.000899,-0.000743,-0.024634,0.034609,0.00411,-0.014342,0.001267,0.00905,0.007754,-0.005366,-0.000247,0.005793,0.017834,-0.006826
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE550_noUDG.SG,0. 125205,0.096475,0.04714,0.10756,-0.02462,0.04267,0.000705,-0.008307,-0.048063,-0.070525,0.003248,-0.003297,-0.008028,-0.017203,0.035559,0.019756,0.002217,-0.005068,0.001634,0.009254,0.000125,0.006925,0.021 815,0.01446,0.002994
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE552_noUDG.SG,0. 10927,0.089367,0.034318,0.107883,-0.036007,0.051874,0.00564,0.000462,-0.061766,-0.082917,0.001461,0.003297,-0.002527,-0.026424,0.031759,0.019358,0.00352,-0.003041,-0.000377,0.010505,-0.002246,-0.000124,0.004437,0.022774,-0.004191
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0231,0.124067,0.081242, 0.0445,0.114666,-0.034468,0.049364,-0.00188,-0.007846,-0.052972,-0.073441,0.003735,0.005845,0.00223,-0.023671,0.034202,0.024662,0.007302,0.000253,0.003 142,0.013131,-0.006988,0.004328,0.002218,0.011929,-0.000239
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0357,0.126344,0.091398, 0.038843,0.109821,-0.029544,0.040718,0.006345,-0.00923,-0.040905,-0.065969,-0.001299,-0.001798,-0.003717,-0.02257,0.03678,0.02148,0.001825,0.005321,-0.004651,0.003126,0.004118,0.00643,0.008874,0.0145 8,-0.005508
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0370,0.124067,0.085304, 0.048271,0.113051,-0.027082,0.04267,0.00705,-0.001385,-0.064016,-0.069432,0.000487,-0.000899,0.004014,-0.029451,0.037595,0.013126,0.004563,-0.000633,-0.007039,0.015132,0.003369,-0.009892,0.009613,0.022533,-0.003113
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0429,0.132035,0.089367, 0.042615,0.13017,-0.02739,0.049364,0.007755,0.001846,-0.059925,-0.076175,0.001461,-0.007194,0.002973,-0.015689,0.040445,0.021347,0.004955,0,0.008547,0.0 2101,-0.003244,0.004328,0.022678,0.017111,-0.01437
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0438,0.124067,0.088351, 0.042615,0.118865,-0.029236,0.048527,0.00047,0.001154,-0.062789,-0.07745,0.001461,0.005695,-0.005946,-0.027387,0.033387,0.005038,0.007953,-0.007221,-0.003897,0.017759,-0.001373,0.000742,0.017255,0.023979,-0.005508
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0439,0.127482,0.09546,0 .037712,0.113374,-0.018157,0.033467,0.0047,-0.005077,-0.053176,-0.057587,0.003085,-0.002098,-0.006541,-0.025598,0.038952,0.01432,-0.001434,-0.007095,-0.001257,0.018259,-0.001872,0.006801,0.016269,0.025546,-0.009819
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0443,0.125205,0.091398, 0.039975,0.111436,-0.028005,0.046575,0.00564,-0.005769,-0.052563,-0.081642,0.002111,-0.00015,0.001041,-0.01968,0.042616,0.004773,-0.016428,0.00038,-0.001257,0.009379,0.003868,-0.002226,0.000986,0.01699,0.002275
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0444,0.126344,0.087336, 0.048271,0.116927,-0.02462,0.04769,0.00564,-0.000231,-0.049904,-0.072894,-0.000812,-3.00E-04,0.003122,-0.039498,0.030266,0.020684,0.000261,0.000887,-0.007039,0.00988,-0.014974,0.002968,0.011092,0.019039,0.003353
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I7489,0.122929,0.093429, 0.043369,0.11079,-0.032314,0.043786,0.0047,0,-0.057471,-0.082371,0.006496,0.004046,-0.012042,-0.008945,0.041123,0.016176,-0.008996,-0.005194,-0.001885,0.004877,-0.010981,-0.001113,0.012078,0.014219,-0.007784
Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya:I11446,0.127482,0.097491,0.0437 46,0.081719,-0.013541,0.039602,0.028671,0.002077,-0.036405,-0.066698,-0.000487,-0.001948,-0.007582,-0.017065,0.030673,0.029435,0.009518,-0.006208,-0.008296,0.014257,-0.011355,-0.014096,0.009983,0.032896,-0.010418
Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya:I2105,0.118376,0.090382,0.0403 52,0.110144,-0.032621,0.038766,0.006815,0.003461,-0.056244,-0.076175,-0.00065,0.00015,-0.002527,-0.022432,0.031759,0.013789,0.002477,-0.005321,-0.002891,0.017133,0.004492,0.003339,0.003451,0.020 967,0.002155
Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya:I3141_enhanced,0.121791,0.0924 13,0.053928,0.105299,-0.048317,0.041834,0.004465,0.011538,-0.058289,-0.080731,-0.001461,0.014387,0.013677,-0.010459,0.010993,0.003978,-0.018775,0.004814,0.005531,0.002626,-0.017469,0.017435,0.008627,0.019641,-0.011256
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113

Mine: 58.8% Dairy-lover

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.6033% / 0.02603342
35.4 Gibraltar_EN
15.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya:I11446
11.8 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE240_noUDG.SG
10.0 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE546_noUDG.SG
8.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0439
6.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18794
5.8 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
4.2 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE547_noUDG.SG
2.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0443
0.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0370

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.6033% / 0.02603342
35.4 Gibraltar_EN
26.0 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
15.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
11.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
6.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
5.8 France_Rochedane

63.2% dairy lover.

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 01:36 AM

63.2% dairy lover.

Good. I'm also curious where you get your farming?

Asega

01-02-2025, 01:40 AM

Good. I'm also curious where you get your farming?

Gibraltar as well.

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 01:53 AM

Gibraltar as well.

I think you might be getting such high Yamnaya is lack of appropriate HG samples for you, personally. If you add in Karelia and Latvia HG I imagine your Yamnaya would drop if you have that much Finnish East.

Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG:I0061,0.125205,0.034528,0.137272 ,0.204137,-0.015695,0.057451,-0.026791,-0.03046,-0.01084,-0.090571,0.025982,-0.009591,0.022745,-0.048581,0.019679,0.016309,-0.022426,0.0019,-0.006913,0.017258,-0.004617,0.011747,0.007025,-0.020485,-0.008502
Russia_Karelia_HG:I0211,0.126344,0.033512,0.126335 ,0.220933,0.002462,0.054941,-0.012691,-0.011999,0.00859,-0.086015,0.007632,-0.030723,0.047571,-0.017616,0.014386,0.04097,-0.018515,0.001774,-0.005908,0.002376,-0.012977,0.014096,0.00949,-0.027233,-0.005868

If I add these 4 here above my result is 56.8% Dairy-lover:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.4814% / 0.02481354
35.6 Gibraltar_EN
18.2 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
17.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
16.6 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
7.6 Latvia_HG.SG
4.0 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
0.8 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya

Finnish_East should show more Barcin than Gibraltar, and more Latvia_HG:

Target: Finnish_East
Distance: 4.8403% / 0.04840337
28.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
21.6 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
18.8 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
12.4 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
10.6 Latvia_HG
8.2 Gibraltar_EN

Asega

01-02-2025, 01:59 AM

I think you might be getting such high Yamnaya is lack of appropriate HG samples for you, personally. If you add in Karelia and Latvia HG I imagine your Yamnaya would drop if you have that much Finnish East.

Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG:I0061,0.125205,0.034528,0.137272 ,0.204137,-0.015695,0.057451,-0.026791,-0.03046,-0.01084,-0.090571,0.025982,-0.009591,0.022745,-0.048581,0.019679,0.016309,-0.022426,0.0019,-0.006913,0.017258,-0.004617,0.011747,0.007025,-0.020485,-0.008502
Russia_Karelia_HG:I0211,0.126344,0.033512,0.126335 ,0.220933,0.002462,0.054941,-0.012691,-0.011999,0.00859,-0.086015,0.007632,-0.030723,0.047571,-0.017616,0.014386,0.04097,-0.018515,0.001774,-0.005908,0.002376,-0.012977,0.014096,0.00949,-0.027233,-0.005868

If I add these 4 here above my result is 56.8% Dairy-lover:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.4814% / 0.02481354
35.6 Gibraltar_EN
18.2 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
17.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
16.6 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
7.6 Latvia_HG.SG
4.0 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
0.8 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya

Finnish_East should show more Barcin than Gibraltar, and more Latvia_HG:

Target: Finnish_East
Distance: 4.8403% / 0.04840337
28.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
21.6 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
18.8 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
12.4 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
10.6 Latvia_HG
8.2 Gibraltar_EN

Drops to 59% dairy lover.

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 02:06 AM

Drops to 59% dairy lover.

This is the last one for now, based again on averages along with the NE HG:

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237

my result

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.9848% / 0.02984776
52.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
35.8 Gibraltar_EN
4.8 Latvia_HG
4.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
2.6 Latvia_HG.SG

Your results are confusing so far. You should be lining up more NW.

https://i.postimg.cc/fTwV70PV/yamnaya2.jpg (https://postimg.cc/HjhWdjdm)

Asega

01-02-2025, 02:11 AM

This is the last one for now, based again on averages along with the NE HG:

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237

my result

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.9848% / 0.02984776
52.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
35.8 Gibraltar_EN
4.8 Latvia_HG
4.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
2.6 Latvia_HG.SG

Your results are confusing so far. You should be lining up more NW.

https://i.postimg.cc/fTwV70PV/yamnaya2.jpg (https://postimg.cc/HjhWdjdm)

56.4%

Vessna

01-02-2025, 02:23 AM

try this, NO ADC: can you show me aggregate and not aggregate?

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18793,0.126344,0.089367,0.03 6581,0.099161,-0.013541,0.040718,0.007755,0.004154,-0.040291,-0.06032,-0.005196,0.002548,0.002527,-0.019542,0.020765,0.00358,-0.017602,-0.003167,0.003394,0.017759,-0.000624,-0.006677,0.010969,0.012773,0.001676
Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18794,0.120652,0.120848,0.04 2615,0.063308,0.003385,0.032909,0.01081,0.004615,-0.04295,-0.038999,0.005521,-0.007044,0.000149,-0.012524,0.022258,0.013392,-0.002086,-0.001647,0.001006,-0.001626,-0.007612,-0.014591,0.008627,0.006868,0.008382
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5117,0.120652,0.1 635,0.031678,-0.058463,0.076937,-0.023985,-0.00282,-0.006461,0.041109,0.071983,-0.003085,0.002098,-0.023934,-0.000963,-0.027823,0.023999,0.033769,0.007981,0.006662,-0.012506,-0.011729,0.014962,-0.009367,-0.003976,-0.001557
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5118,0.119514,0.1 66547,0.023004,-0.05491,0.070782,-0.02761,-0.00564,0.007154,0.049086,0.072894,0.002598,0.0179 84,-0.020515,-0.007707,-0.02728,0.018828,0.026729,0.00228,0.014078,-0.003502,0.00025,0.008408,-0.010599,-0.016388,-0.002155
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5119,0.120652,0.1 77718,0.027907,-0.059109,0.065243,-0.029841,-0.000235,-0.002077,0.033337,0.08474,0.003248,0.012739,-0.015461,0.012386,-0.032709,-0.004243,0.015776,-0.00076,0.011941,-0.005753,-0.008111,0.000371,-0.000493,-0.014219,0.00491
Kazakhstan_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:Damgaard2018Yamnaya_noUD G.SG,0.120652,0.081242,0.039975,0.10756,-0.020927,0.047411,-0.00282,-0.00923,-0.054608,-0.068339,-0.00682,-0.00045,-0.003122,-0.026699,0.036509,0.015248,0.004042,-0.005828,-0.011816,0.006128,-0.005865,-0.00136,0.008258,0.028317,-0.013771
Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:RK1001,0.118376,0.0842 89,0.037335,0.11402,-0.038776,0.040718,0.012926,-0.002769,-0.06013,-0.070708,0.003085,-0.002248,0.001784,-0.021607,0.03963,0.015513,0.002608,0.00152,-0.003017,0.004252,-0.003119,0.007172,0.005793,0.018436,-0.010777
Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:RK1007,0.10927,0.07108 7,0.019233,0.112728,-0.043393,0.037092,-0.00282,-0.011307,-0.064834,-0.080731,-0.007957,-0.008093,-0.002825,-0.037571,0.03108,0.012066,-0.017602,-0.006208,-0.011816,0.002501,0.00861,0.005441,0.004067,0.0071 09,-0.002994
Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:ZO2002,0.120652,0.0863 2,0.029415,0.099807,-0.028928,0.044344,0.00611,-0.003231,-0.055426,-0.069067,0.002273,-0.010041,-0.003419,-0.010322,0.029316,-0.006629,-0.022556,-0.002914,-0.008422,0.004752,-0.004243,0.009769,0.011955,0.012411,-0.003952
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE240_noUDG.SG,0. 118376,0.084289,0.04714,0.113697,-0.02462,0.027331,0.00799,0,-0.050517,-0.063965,0.00065,0.002548,0.001784,-0.025735,0.03393,0.006364,0.01004,-0.005954,-0.008422,0.02001,-0.013476,-0.005688,0.015652,0.023979,0.006347
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE546_noUDG.SG,0. 103579,0.088351,0.061094,0.120803,-0.028928,0.044901,0.001175,-0.005769,-0.066879,-0.087838,-0.006008,3.00E-04,-0.001635,-0.024772,0.004886,0.012729,0.008605,0.005828,-0.001885,0.003627,-0.00287,-0.008408,0.027238,0.02892,-0.018801
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE547_noUDG.SG,0. 118376,0.09546,0.045632,0.118219,-0.031083,0.039324,0.00658,-0.004615,-0.042132,-0.072894,-0.002761,0.000899,-0.000743,-0.024634,0.034609,0.00411,-0.014342,0.001267,0.00905,0.007754,-0.005366,-0.000247,0.005793,0.017834,-0.006826
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE550_noUDG.SG,0. 125205,0.096475,0.04714,0.10756,-0.02462,0.04267,0.000705,-0.008307,-0.048063,-0.070525,0.003248,-0.003297,-0.008028,-0.017203,0.035559,0.019756,0.002217,-0.005068,0.001634,0.009254,0.000125,0.006925,0.021 815,0.01446,0.002994
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE552_noUDG.SG,0. 10927,0.089367,0.034318,0.107883,-0.036007,0.051874,0.00564,0.000462,-0.061766,-0.082917,0.001461,0.003297,-0.002527,-0.026424,0.031759,0.019358,0.00352,-0.003041,-0.000377,0.010505,-0.002246,-0.000124,0.004437,0.022774,-0.004191
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0231,0.124067,0.081242, 0.0445,0.114666,-0.034468,0.049364,-0.00188,-0.007846,-0.052972,-0.073441,0.003735,0.005845,0.00223,-0.023671,0.034202,0.024662,0.007302,0.000253,0.003 142,0.013131,-0.006988,0.004328,0.002218,0.011929,-0.000239
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0357,0.126344,0.091398, 0.038843,0.109821,-0.029544,0.040718,0.006345,-0.00923,-0.040905,-0.065969,-0.001299,-0.001798,-0.003717,-0.02257,0.03678,0.02148,0.001825,0.005321,-0.004651,0.003126,0.004118,0.00643,0.008874,0.0145 8,-0.005508
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0370,0.124067,0.085304, 0.048271,0.113051,-0.027082,0.04267,0.00705,-0.001385,-0.064016,-0.069432,0.000487,-0.000899,0.004014,-0.029451,0.037595,0.013126,0.004563,-0.000633,-0.007039,0.015132,0.003369,-0.009892,0.009613,0.022533,-0.003113
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0429,0.132035,0.089367, 0.042615,0.13017,-0.02739,0.049364,0.007755,0.001846,-0.059925,-0.076175,0.001461,-0.007194,0.002973,-0.015689,0.040445,0.021347,0.004955,0,0.008547,0.0 2101,-0.003244,0.004328,0.022678,0.017111,-0.01437
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0438,0.124067,0.088351, 0.042615,0.118865,-0.029236,0.048527,0.00047,0.001154,-0.062789,-0.07745,0.001461,0.005695,-0.005946,-0.027387,0.033387,0.005038,0.007953,-0.007221,-0.003897,0.017759,-0.001373,0.000742,0.017255,0.023979,-0.005508
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0439,0.127482,0.09546,0 .037712,0.113374,-0.018157,0.033467,0.0047,-0.005077,-0.053176,-0.057587,0.003085,-0.002098,-0.006541,-0.025598,0.038952,0.01432,-0.001434,-0.007095,-0.001257,0.018259,-0.001872,0.006801,0.016269,0.025546,-0.009819
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0443,0.125205,0.091398, 0.039975,0.111436,-0.028005,0.046575,0.00564,-0.005769,-0.052563,-0.081642,0.002111,-0.00015,0.001041,-0.01968,0.042616,0.004773,-0.016428,0.00038,-0.001257,0.009379,0.003868,-0.002226,0.000986,0.01699,0.002275
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0444,0.126344,0.087336, 0.048271,0.116927,-0.02462,0.04769,0.00564,-0.000231,-0.049904,-0.072894,-0.000812,-3.00E-04,0.003122,-0.039498,0.030266,0.020684,0.000261,0.000887,-0.007039,0.00988,-0.014974,0.002968,0.011092,0.019039,0.003353
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I7489,0.122929,0.093429, 0.043369,0.11079,-0.032314,0.043786,0.0047,0,-0.057471,-0.082371,0.006496,0.004046,-0.012042,-0.008945,0.041123,0.016176,-0.008996,-0.005194,-0.001885,0.004877,-0.010981,-0.001113,0.012078,0.014219,-0.007784
Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya:I11446,0.127482,0.097491,0.0437 46,0.081719,-0.013541,0.039602,0.028671,0.002077,-0.036405,-0.066698,-0.000487,-0.001948,-0.007582,-0.017065,0.030673,0.029435,0.009518,-0.006208,-0.008296,0.014257,-0.011355,-0.014096,0.009983,0.032896,-0.010418
Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya:I2105,0.118376,0.090382,0.0403 52,0.110144,-0.032621,0.038766,0.006815,0.003461,-0.056244,-0.076175,-0.00065,0.00015,-0.002527,-0.022432,0.031759,0.013789,0.002477,-0.005321,-0.002891,0.017133,0.004492,0.003339,0.003451,0.020 967,0.002155
Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya:I3141_enhanced,0.121791,0.0924 13,0.053928,0.105299,-0.048317,0.041834,0.004465,0.011538,-0.058289,-0.080731,-0.001461,0.014387,0.013677,-0.010459,0.010993,0.003978,-0.018775,0.004814,0.005531,0.002626,-0.017469,0.017435,0.008627,0.019641,-0.011256
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113

Mine: 58.8% Dairy-lover

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.6033% / 0.02603342
35.4 Gibraltar_EN
15.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya:I11446
11.8 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE240_noUDG.SG
10.0 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE546_noUDG.SG
8.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0439
6.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18794
5.8 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
4.2 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE547_noUDG.SG
2.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0443
0.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0370

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.6033% / 0.02603342
35.4 Gibraltar_EN
26.0 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
15.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
11.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
6.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
5.8 France_Rochedane

What are you trying to figure out?

Target: husband_scaled
Distance: 5.2277% / 0.05227748
22.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
17.2 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
13.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
12.4 Latvia_HG.SG
11.8 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
10.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
9.6 Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
2.6 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 5.6409% / 0.05640923
35.6 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
20.8 Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
16.4 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
15.8 Latvia_HG.SG
6.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
5.2 Russia_Karelia_HG

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 02:45 AM

What are you trying to figure out?

Target: husband_scaled
Distance: 5.2277% / 0.05227748
22.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
17.2 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
13.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
12.4 Latvia_HG.SG
11.8 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
10.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
9.6 Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
2.6 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 5.6409% / 0.05640923
35.6 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
20.8 Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
16.4 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
15.8 Latvia_HG.SG
6.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
5.2 Russia_Karelia_HG

I was/am trying to understand how someone primarily NW European is scoring higher on the basic 3-way Yamnaya calc than a FULL Finnish_East average or individual sample. It doesn't make sense, does it? So if we add in some other HG, the Finns pick those up right away, but this guy I've been corresponding with is not showing them and he's getting western farmer, which also doesn't make sense per his Yamnaya result being so high. I think there are different variables at play here, but for me it's interesting to compare to him as he is from the Netherlands and my closest modern match is Dutch, and we are scoring higher than all the other NW nations, on averages.

Try this one:

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
Hungary_EN_HG_Koros,0.135449,0.122879,0.181018,0.1 54395,0.128947,0.042391,0.017156,0.037845,0.071379 ,0.008565,-0.002761,-0.013938,0.014717,-0.00234,0.026737,0.046406,0.018384,0.008488,-0.006788,0.046772,0.06239,0.011747,-0.038823,-0.12315,0.012933
Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
Japan_HG_Jomon,0.0106994,-0.3460924,-0.0530232,0.012274,0.0379146,0.0152274,-0.002773,-0.0007846,0.0256064,0.0189888,-0.0501782,-0.0083326,0.009098,-0.0063856,-0.0248098,-0.0170508,0.0053458,0.0094006,0.003922,-0.0048774,0.0638872,-0.0453804,0.0078138,0.0122908,-0.0984104
USA_Alaska_TrailCreek_9000BP.SG,0.030732,-0.287395,0.085229,0.091732,-0.078784,-0.011992,-0.11257,-0.131071,-0.002863,-0.024055,-0.002273,-0.007044,0.005054,-0.011698,0.004479,0.003447,-0.000913,-0.005448,0.005782,0.01038,-0.01148,0.001731,0.009244,0.005784,-0.006347
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea,0.0463829,-0.3563239,0.1166952,0.0468754,-0.1182528,-0.0380163,-0.1210451,-0.1408066,0.000524,-0.0169138,0.0252411,-0.0061258,0.0095422,-0.0174007,-0.0335654,-0.0152809,-0.0027135,0.0128032,0.0331216,0.0191106,0.0258373,-0.0432939,0.0076259,0.0284905,0.0373021
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea.SG,0.05122,-0.34528,0.109365,0.042636,-0.115406,-0.033746,-0.11163,-0.137763,0.010022,-0.017859,0.026632,0.002548,0.000595,-0.012937,-0.023344,-0.013657,-0.008866,0.013682,0.031173,0.016633,0.032443,-0.0298,0.010106,0.025184,0.028141
Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea,0.0483748,-0.351627,0.1144562,0.048127,-0.1167138,-0.0375805,-0.1277872,-0.144744,0,-0.0145788,0.023465,-0.0048708,0.0096257,-0.0164458,-0.0340318,-0.0108722,-0.0015318,0.0135558,0.0349125,0.0195408,0.0306958,-0.0475135,0.009983,0.0297932,0.0384695

mine

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.9800% / 0.02979963
53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
36.0 Gibraltar_EN
3.6 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
3.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
3.0 Latvia_HG.SG
0.6 Latvia_HG

Vessna

01-02-2025, 03:00 AM

I was/am trying to understand how someone primarily NW European is scoring higher on the basic 3-way Yamnaya calc than a FULL Finnish_East average or individual sample. It doesn't make sense, does it? So if we add in some other HG, the Finns pick those up right away, but this guy I've been corresponding with is not showing them and he's getting western farmer, which also doesn't make sense per his Yamnaya result being so high. I think there are different variables at play here, but for me it's interesting to compare to him as he is from the Netherlands and my closest modern match is Dutch, and we are scoring higher than all the other NW nations, on averages.

Try this one:

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
Hungary_EN_HG_Koros,0.135449,0.122879,0.181018,0.1 54395,0.128947,0.042391,0.017156,0.037845,0.071379 ,0.008565,-0.002761,-0.013938,0.014717,-0.00234,0.026737,0.046406,0.018384,0.008488,-0.006788,0.046772,0.06239,0.011747,-0.038823,-0.12315,0.012933
Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
Japan_HG_Jomon,0.0106994,-0.3460924,-0.0530232,0.012274,0.0379146,0.0152274,-0.002773,-0.0007846,0.0256064,0.0189888,-0.0501782,-0.0083326,0.009098,-0.0063856,-0.0248098,-0.0170508,0.0053458,0.0094006,0.003922,-0.0048774,0.0638872,-0.0453804,0.0078138,0.0122908,-0.0984104
USA_Alaska_TrailCreek_9000BP.SG,0.030732,-0.287395,0.085229,0.091732,-0.078784,-0.011992,-0.11257,-0.131071,-0.002863,-0.024055,-0.002273,-0.007044,0.005054,-0.011698,0.004479,0.003447,-0.000913,-0.005448,0.005782,0.01038,-0.01148,0.001731,0.009244,0.005784,-0.006347
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea,0.0463829,-0.3563239,0.1166952,0.0468754,-0.1182528,-0.0380163,-0.1210451,-0.1408066,0.000524,-0.0169138,0.0252411,-0.0061258,0.0095422,-0.0174007,-0.0335654,-0.0152809,-0.0027135,0.0128032,0.0331216,0.0191106,0.0258373,-0.0432939,0.0076259,0.0284905,0.0373021
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea.SG,0.05122,-0.34528,0.109365,0.042636,-0.115406,-0.033746,-0.11163,-0.137763,0.010022,-0.017859,0.026632,0.002548,0.000595,-0.012937,-0.023344,-0.013657,-0.008866,0.013682,0.031173,0.016633,0.032443,-0.0298,0.010106,0.025184,0.028141
Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea,0.0483748,-0.351627,0.1144562,0.048127,-0.1167138,-0.0375805,-0.1277872,-0.144744,0,-0.0145788,0.023465,-0.0048708,0.0096257,-0.0164458,-0.0340318,-0.0108722,-0.0015318,0.0135558,0.0349125,0.0195408,0.0306958,-0.0475135,0.009983,0.0297932,0.0384695

mine

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.9800% / 0.02979963
53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
36.0 Gibraltar_EN
3.6 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
3.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
3.0 Latvia_HG.SG
0.6 Latvia_HG

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 6.6341% / 0.06634091
35.0 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
34.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
15.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
14.0 Latvia_HG.SG
0.8 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros

Target: husband_scaled
Distance: 5.5742% / 0.05574151
31.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
29.2 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
20.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
13.4 Latvia_HG.SG
3.0 Japan_HG_Jomon
2.2 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
0.6 Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea

Asega

01-02-2025, 03:01 AM

I was/am trying to understand how someone primarily NW European is scoring higher on the basic 3-way Yamnaya calc than a FULL Finnish_East average or individual sample. It doesn't make sense, does it? So if we add in some other HG, the Finns pick those up right away, but this guy I've been corresponding with is not showing them and he's getting western farmer, which also doesn't make sense per his Yamnaya result being so high. I think there are different variables at play here, but for me it's interesting to compare to him as he is from the Netherlands and my closest modern match is Dutch, and we are scoring higher than all the other NW nations, on averages.

Try this one:

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
Hungary_EN_HG_Koros,0.135449,0.122879,0.181018,0.1 54395,0.128947,0.042391,0.017156,0.037845,0.071379 ,0.008565,-0.002761,-0.013938,0.014717,-0.00234,0.026737,0.046406,0.018384,0.008488,-0.006788,0.046772,0.06239,0.011747,-0.038823,-0.12315,0.012933
Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
Japan_HG_Jomon,0.0106994,-0.3460924,-0.0530232,0.012274,0.0379146,0.0152274,-0.002773,-0.0007846,0.0256064,0.0189888,-0.0501782,-0.0083326,0.009098,-0.0063856,-0.0248098,-0.0170508,0.0053458,0.0094006,0.003922,-0.0048774,0.0638872,-0.0453804,0.0078138,0.0122908,-0.0984104
USA_Alaska_TrailCreek_9000BP.SG,0.030732,-0.287395,0.085229,0.091732,-0.078784,-0.011992,-0.11257,-0.131071,-0.002863,-0.024055,-0.002273,-0.007044,0.005054,-0.011698,0.004479,0.003447,-0.000913,-0.005448,0.005782,0.01038,-0.01148,0.001731,0.009244,0.005784,-0.006347
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea,0.0463829,-0.3563239,0.1166952,0.0468754,-0.1182528,-0.0380163,-0.1210451,-0.1408066,0.000524,-0.0169138,0.0252411,-0.0061258,0.0095422,-0.0174007,-0.0335654,-0.0152809,-0.0027135,0.0128032,0.0331216,0.0191106,0.0258373,-0.0432939,0.0076259,0.0284905,0.0373021
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea.SG,0.05122,-0.34528,0.109365,0.042636,-0.115406,-0.033746,-0.11163,-0.137763,0.010022,-0.017859,0.026632,0.002548,0.000595,-0.012937,-0.023344,-0.013657,-0.008866,0.013682,0.031173,0.016633,0.032443,-0.0298,0.010106,0.025184,0.028141
Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea,0.0483748,-0.351627,0.1144562,0.048127,-0.1167138,-0.0375805,-0.1277872,-0.144744,0,-0.0145788,0.023465,-0.0048708,0.0096257,-0.0164458,-0.0340318,-0.0108722,-0.0015318,0.0135558,0.0349125,0.0195408,0.0306958,-0.0475135,0.009983,0.0297932,0.0384695

mine

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.9800% / 0.02979963
53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
36.0 Gibraltar_EN
3.6 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
3.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
3.0 Latvia_HG.SG
0.6 Latvia_HG

I'm curious to know what you think the variables are at stake.

Vessna

01-02-2025, 03:07 AM

I was/am trying to understand how someone primarily NW European is scoring higher on the basic 3-way Yamnaya calc than a FULL Finnish_East average or individual sample. It doesn't make sense, does it? So if we add in some other HG, the Finns pick those up right away, but this guy I've been corresponding with is not showing them and he's getting western farmer, which also doesn't make sense per his Yamnaya result being so high. I think there are different variables at play here, but for me it's interesting to compare to him as he is from the Netherlands and my closest modern match is Dutch, and we are scoring higher than all the other NW nations, on averages.

Try this one:

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
Hungary_EN_HG_Koros,0.135449,0.122879,0.181018,0.1 54395,0.128947,0.042391,0.017156,0.037845,0.071379 ,0.008565,-0.002761,-0.013938,0.014717,-0.00234,0.026737,0.046406,0.018384,0.008488,-0.006788,0.046772,0.06239,0.011747,-0.038823,-0.12315,0.012933
Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
Japan_HG_Jomon,0.0106994,-0.3460924,-0.0530232,0.012274,0.0379146,0.0152274,-0.002773,-0.0007846,0.0256064,0.0189888,-0.0501782,-0.0083326,0.009098,-0.0063856,-0.0248098,-0.0170508,0.0053458,0.0094006,0.003922,-0.0048774,0.0638872,-0.0453804,0.0078138,0.0122908,-0.0984104
USA_Alaska_TrailCreek_9000BP.SG,0.030732,-0.287395,0.085229,0.091732,-0.078784,-0.011992,-0.11257,-0.131071,-0.002863,-0.024055,-0.002273,-0.007044,0.005054,-0.011698,0.004479,0.003447,-0.000913,-0.005448,0.005782,0.01038,-0.01148,0.001731,0.009244,0.005784,-0.006347
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea,0.0463829,-0.3563239,0.1166952,0.0468754,-0.1182528,-0.0380163,-0.1210451,-0.1408066,0.000524,-0.0169138,0.0252411,-0.0061258,0.0095422,-0.0174007,-0.0335654,-0.0152809,-0.0027135,0.0128032,0.0331216,0.0191106,0.0258373,-0.0432939,0.0076259,0.0284905,0.0373021
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea.SG,0.05122,-0.34528,0.109365,0.042636,-0.115406,-0.033746,-0.11163,-0.137763,0.010022,-0.017859,0.026632,0.002548,0.000595,-0.012937,-0.023344,-0.013657,-0.008866,0.013682,0.031173,0.016633,0.032443,-0.0298,0.010106,0.025184,0.028141
Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea,0.0483748,-0.351627,0.1144562,0.048127,-0.1167138,-0.0375805,-0.1277872,-0.144744,0,-0.0145788,0.023465,-0.0048708,0.0096257,-0.0164458,-0.0340318,-0.0108722,-0.0015318,0.0135558,0.0349125,0.0195408,0.0306958,-0.0475135,0.009983,0.0297932,0.0384695

mine

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.9800% / 0.02979963
53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
36.0 Gibraltar_EN
3.6 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
3.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
3.0 Latvia_HG.SG
0.6 Latvia_HG

Makes no sense for you to have more Yamnaya than a Northern Russian.

Asega

01-02-2025, 03:15 AM

Makes no sense for you to have more Yamnaya than a Northern Russian.

Balto-Slavs (including you) suffer from Balto-Slavic drift (genetic drift) on G25, which is why you latch onto Latvian HG's.

Davidski from Eurogenes has a blogpost explaining the phenomenon:

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2021/01/that-old-chestnut-northeast-vs.html?m=1

Please note, Greg, that none of the Z scores reach significance, which means that these Northwest Europeans and Slavs are symmetrically related to Baltic_HG. They're also symmetrically related to other relevant ancient groups such as the Yamnaya steppe herders. This, of course, suggests that they harbor very similar levels of basically the same ancient genetic components.

Now, Greg, if at least in terms of genetic ancestry, Latvians, Lithuanians, Belarusians, Poles and Ukrainians all qualify as Northeast Europeans, then what makes them different, as a group, from Northwest Europeans? Do you believe that the key factor is admixture from Baltic hunter-gatherers? Or is it genetic drift?

Of course, considering all of the f4-stats above, logic dictates that it must be relatively recent genetic drift.

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 03:16 AM

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 6.6341% / 0.06634091
35.0 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
34.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
15.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
14.0 Latvia_HG.SG
0.8 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros

Target: husband_scaled
Distance: 5.5742% / 0.05574151
31.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
29.2 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
20.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
13.4 Latvia_HG.SG
3.0 Japan_HG_Jomon
2.2 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
0.6 Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea

I made a Ghost G25 sample (75% Modern Dutch, 25% Modern Finnish_East): basic 3-way result for Yamnaya for this Ghost: and the Ghost sample is compared to my result below-- not far apart. But this new member is getting over 59% Yamnaya on this calc.

Dutch.FinnEast.Ghost,0.1270445,0.12032825,0.068800 25000000001,0.054017499999999996,0.0374805,0.01751 6999999999998,0.005939999999999999,0.0089335,0.004 3035,-0.0062045,-0.002382,0.00134525,-0.0033282500000000005,-0.005986,0.0123545,0.0064427500000000006,-0.0021349999999999997,0.0008992500000000001,0.0025 905000000000004,0.0036172500000000002,0.0057977499 99999999,0.0028215000000000002,0.00029549999999999 997,0.012420249999999999,0.000025499999999999915

Target: Dutch.FinnEast.Ghost
Distance: 4.0090% / 0.04009013
53.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
33.6 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
13.4 France_Rochedane

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 3.8097% / 0.03809678
53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
35.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
11.2 France_Rochedane

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 03:25 AM

Makes no sense for you to have more Yamnaya than a Northern Russian.

I don't. It's interesting that I get 53.4% on the basic 3-way, but also 53.4% when adding in multiple other HG and Farmer samples. Most people's Yamnaya scores will change when adding in others.

Target Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
Russian_Leshukonsky 68.8
Russian_Pinezhsky 64.6
Russian_Pinega 63
Finnish_East 62.4
Karelian 61.8
Finnish_North 61.6
Russian_Krasnoborsky 61.4
Russian_Kostroma 61
Finnish_Central 61
Finnish_Southeast 59.4
Russian_Tver 58.2
Russian_Yaroslavl 58
Finnish_Southwest 58
Russian_Ryazan 57.4
Russian_Kursk 56.2
Russian_Orel 56
Russian_Pskov 55.8
Russian_Kaluga 54.8
Belarusian 54.4
Russian_Smolensk 54.2
Russian_Voronez 54.2
Russian_Belgorod 53.6
SC_Official_AVE_Scaled 53.4
Shetlandic 53.2
Dutch.FinnEast.Ghost 53
Swedish 52.8
Icelandic 52.2
Norwegian 51.8
Irish 51.6
Danish 51.2
Scottish 50.6
Dutch 49.8
English 49
Welsh 48.6
English_Cornwall 48

Vessna

01-02-2025, 03:29 AM

Balto-Slavs (including you) suffer from Balto-Slavic drift (genetic drift) on G25, which is why you latch onto Latvian HG's.

Davidski from Eurogenes has a blogpost explaining the phenomenon:

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2021/01/that-old-chestnut-northeast-vs.html?m=1

Thanks! I am aware of the drift just wasn’t sure how it would affect calc results.

Found this article from Davidski.
https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2012/04/so-whos-most-european-of-us-all.html?m=1

Interestingly, when I asked ChatGPT that same question several weeks ago, I got a similar answer :)

Vessna

01-02-2025, 03:32 AM

I don't.

Target Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
Russian_Leshukonsky 68.8
Russian_Pinezhsky 64.6
Russian_Pinezhsky 64.6
Russian_Pinega 63
Finnish_East 62.4
Karelian 61.8
Finnish_North 61.6
Russian_Krasnoborsky 61.4
Russian_Kostroma 61
Finnish_Central 61
Finnish_Southeast 59.4
Russian_Tver 58.2
Russian_Yaroslavl 58
Finnish_Southwest 58
Russian_Ryazan 57.4
Russian_Kursk 56.2
Russian_Orel 56
Russian_Pskov 55.8
Russian_Kaluga 54.8
Belarusian 54.4
Russian_Smolensk 54.2
Russian_Voronez 54.2
Russian_Belgorod 53.6
SC_Official_AVE_Scaled 53.4
Shetlandic 53.2
Dutch.FinnEast.Ghost 53
Swedish 52.8
Icelandic 52.2
Norwegian 51.8
Irish 51.6
Danish 51.2
Scottish 50.6
Dutch 49.8
English 49
Welsh 48.6
English_Cornwall 48

Well that’s not what I got for him on your calc. His closest population is Russian Krasnoborsky or Kostroma depending on the calc.
Edit: never mind, I missed your previous post explaining why you added more HG samples.

majevica

01-02-2025, 03:34 AM

I don't. It's interesting that I get 53.4% on the basic 3-way, but also 53.4% when adding in multiple other HG and Farmer samples. Most people's Yamnaya scores will change when adding in others.

Target Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
Russian_Leshukonsky 68.8
Russian_Pinezhsky 64.6
Russian_Pinezhsky 64.6
Russian_Pinega 63
Finnish_East 62.4
Karelian 61.8
Finnish_North 61.6
Russian_Krasnoborsky 61.4
Russian_Kostroma 61
Finnish_Central 61
Finnish_Southeast 59.4
Russian_Tver 58.2
Russian_Yaroslavl 58
Finnish_Southwest 58
Russian_Ryazan 57.4
Russian_Kursk 56.2
Russian_Orel 56
Russian_Pskov 55.8
Russian_Kaluga 54.8
Belarusian 54.4
Russian_Smolensk 54.2
Russian_Voronez 54.2
Russian_Belgorod 53.6
SC_Official_AVE_Scaled 53.4
Shetlandic 53.2
Dutch.FinnEast.Ghost 53
Swedish 52.8
Icelandic 52.2
Norwegian 51.8
Irish 51.6
Danish 51.2
Scottish 50.6
Dutch 49.8
English 49
Welsh 48.6
English_Cornwall 48

Looks like you modeled them without the East Asian component

majevica

01-02-2025, 03:35 AM

Target: scaled
Distance: 4.6820% / 0.04681988
46.2 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
29.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001
14.8 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
5.4 Iran_15KYA:WC1
4.0 Levant_15KYA:Natufian

Target: scaled
Distance: 3.2779% / 0.03277912
49.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
46.0 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
4.6 France_Rochedane

Asega

01-02-2025, 03:35 AM

Thanks! I am aware of the drift just wasn’t sure how it would affect calc results.

Found this article from Davidski.
https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2012/04/so-whos-most-european-of-us-all.html?m=1

Interestingly, when I asked ChatGPT that same question several weeks ago, I got a similar answer :)

It's best to omit Latvian HG's all together because no one in Europe has any real ancestry from them. You can be perfectly modelled without it.

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 03:44 AM

I'm curious to know what you think the variables are at stake.

Accuracy of individual samples in Source.
Accuracy of combined samples in Source.
Accuracy of Target coordinates.
Accuracy of Target raw-data.
Individual inheritance within a nationality/ethnicity (example: the range for ALL Dutch samples on the 3-way: 43.6%-54.6%)

etc etc

Asega

01-02-2025, 03:51 AM

Accuracy of individual samples in Source.
Accuracy of combined samples in Source.
Accuracy of Target coordinates.
Accuracy of Target raw-data.
Individual inheritance within a nationality/ethnicity (example: the range for ALL Dutch samples on the 3-way: 43.6%-54.6%)

etc etc

There is quite some sub-strucure within the population here which explains the variance. This has to do with differences in ancient ancestry between regions in NL.

Some parts of NL are mostly Celtic in ancestry. Which explains why some Dutch are poorer in Steppe ancestry relative to say someone with North Sea Germanic/Frisian ancestry (like myself).

Vessna

01-02-2025, 03:53 AM

It's best to omit Latvian HG's all together because no one in Europe has any real ancestry from them. You can be perfectly modelled without it.

Target: husband_scaled
Distance: 6.7195% / 0.06719516
53.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
23.6 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
17.6 France_Rochedane
5.0 Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 7.5849% / 0.07584930
55.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
30.0 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
14.6 France_Rochedane

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 03:56 AM

@Vessna

Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12518432 Asega_scaled <-- this seems an impossibility or error, which is why we are discussing it
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13048183 Russian_Kostroma
0.13052258 Russian_Leshukonsky
0.13101105 Karelian
0.13158615 Russian_Pinezhsky
0.13191652 Russian_Krasnoborsky
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13559220 Russian_Tver
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.13619353 Russian_Pinega
0.13771027 Russian_Ryazan
0.13787351 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.13980106 Russian_Kursk
0.14015148 Estonian
0.14117349 Ghost_75%Dutch_25%FinnEast
0.14145541 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14196105 Russian_Orel
0.14243298 Russian_Pskov
0.14434580 Latvian
0.14444194 Russian_Kaluga
0.14492345 Lithuanian_PA
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14602587 Lithuanian_PZ
0.14636871 Russian_Voronez
0.14676639 Lithuanian_VZ
0.14688523 Lithuanian_RA
0.14691370 Shetlandic
0.14717635 Lithuanian_VA
0.14733322 Lithuanian_SZ
0.14743516 Danish
0.14751404 Belarusian
0.14782228 Russian_Smolensk
0.14859755 Russian_Belgorod
0.14868644 Irish
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15944160 English_Cornwall

Asega

01-02-2025, 03:57 AM

Target: husband_scaled
Distance: 6.7195% / 0.06719516
53.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
23.6 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
17.6 France_Rochedane
5.0 Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 7.5849% / 0.07584930
55.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
30.0 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
14.6 France_Rochedane

Looks more accurate.

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 04:42 AM

Looks like you modeled them without the East Asian component

You mean Gora?

majevica

01-02-2025, 05:19 AM

You mean Gora?

Nganasan/Han, leaving it out inflates Yamnaya for populations like Finns and Northern Russians

Vessna

01-02-2025, 05:36 AM

@Vessna

Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12518432 Asega_scaled <-- this seems an impossibility or error, which is why we are discussing it
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13048183 Russian_Kostroma
0.13052258 Russian_Leshukonsky
0.13101105 Karelian
0.13158615 Russian_Pinezhsky
0.13191652 Russian_Krasnoborsky
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13559220 Russian_Tver
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.13619353 Russian_Pinega
0.13771027 Russian_Ryazan
0.13787351 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.13980106 Russian_Kursk
0.14015148 Estonian
0.14117349 Ghost_75%Dutch_25%FinnEast
0.14145541 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14196105 Russian_Orel
0.14243298 Russian_Pskov
0.14434580 Latvian
0.14444194 Russian_Kaluga
0.14492345 Lithuanian_PA
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14602587 Lithuanian_PZ
0.14636871 Russian_Voronez
0.14676639 Lithuanian_VZ
0.14688523 Lithuanian_RA
0.14691370 Shetlandic
0.14717635 Lithuanian_VA
0.14733322 Lithuanian_SZ
0.14743516 Danish
0.14751404 Belarusian
0.14782228 Russian_Smolensk
0.14859755 Russian_Belgorod
0.14868644 Irish
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15944160 English_Cornwall

Yea that’s not very realistic

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 12:24 PM

Nganasan/Han, leaving it out inflates Yamnaya for populations like Finns and Northern Russians

Does it change your results if you add that?

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 12:25 PM

Yea that’s not very realistic

Now you know why I was/am trying to understand how such a thing could exist. What do you think? He's 2/3 Irish? Doesn't make sense.

Asega

01-02-2025, 12:29 PM

Now you know why I was/am trying to understand how such a thing could exist. What do you think? He's 2/3 Irish? Doesn't make sense.

2/3 Irish is obviously just an artefact. An abstract of the model. Just like you are Danish & Dutch.

You seem to take G25 quite literally which you shouldn't. It's not a tool that will discern your ancestry accurately in most cases. That's what Davidski (the creator) will you tell when you ask him.

Asega

01-02-2025, 12:35 PM

I don't. It's interesting that I get 53.4% on the basic 3-way, but also 53.4% when adding in multiple other HG and Farmer samples. Most people's Yamnaya scores will change when adding in others.

Target Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
Russian_Leshukonsky 68.8
Russian_Pinezhsky 64.6
Russian_Pinega 63
Finnish_East 62.4
Karelian 61.8
Finnish_North 61.6
Russian_Krasnoborsky 61.4
Russian_Kostroma 61
Finnish_Central 61
Finnish_Southeast 59.4
Russian_Tver 58.2
Russian_Yaroslavl 58
Finnish_Southwest 58
Russian_Ryazan 57.4
Russian_Kursk 56.2
Russian_Orel 56
Russian_Pskov 55.8
Russian_Kaluga 54.8
Belarusian 54.4
Russian_Smolensk 54.2
Russian_Voronez 54.2
Russian_Belgorod 53.6
SC_Official_AVE_Scaled 53.4
Shetlandic 53.2
Dutch.FinnEast.Ghost 53
Swedish 52.8
Icelandic 52.2
Norwegian 51.8
Irish 51.6
Danish 51.2
Scottish 50.6
Dutch 49.8
English 49
Welsh 48.6
English_Cornwall 48

No one has ~ 70% Yamnaya ancestry. Yamnaya ancestry is basically absent in most of Europe.

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 12:43 PM

2/3 Irish is obviously just an artefact. An abstract of the model. Just like you are Danish & Dutch.

You seem to take G25 quite literally which you shouldn't. It's not a tool that will discern your ancestry accurately in most cases. That's what Davidski (the creator) will you tell when you ask him.

Your distance plots you between Karelian-Mordovian. My results are realistic. Yours are not. Why do you suppose that is? Any theories? In two years here I've not seen a single person post a result to a Yamnaya calc that did not make sense like yours.

Here are the closest of ALL MODERN OFFICIAL SCALED to Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:

https://i.postimg.cc/rwnnrtFk/YAMNAYA-CLOSESTMODERNSCALED.jpg (https://postimg.cc/WdZwRzkW)

Grace O'Malley

01-02-2025, 01:02 PM

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 7.2337% / 0.07233725
43.2 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
36.8 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001
15.2 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
4.8 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna

Vessna

01-02-2025, 01:09 PM

2/3 Irish is obviously just an artefact. An abstract of the model. Just like you are Danish & Dutch.

You seem to take G25 quite literally which you shouldn't. It's not a tool that will discern your ancestry accurately in most cases. That's what Davidski (the creator) will you tell when you ask him.

Even if G25 is an abstract model, there are patterns that samples from different regions follow. Yours makes no sense based on your ancestry. NW euro plotting like Mordvin from Russia is nonsense.

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 01:10 PM

No one has ~ 70% Yamnaya ancestry. Yamnaya ancestry is basically absent in most of Europe.

What do your coordinates give you on the K105 calc?

Asega

01-02-2025, 01:14 PM

Your distance plots you between Karelian-Mordovian. My results are realistic. Yours are not. Why do you suppose that is? Any theories? In two years here I've not seen a single person post a result to a Yamnaya calc that did not make sense like yours.

Even if G25 is an abstract model, there are patterns that samples from different regions follow. Yours makes no sense based on your ancestry. NW euro plotting like Mordvin from Russia is nonsense.

I have no theory as to why, but the Bell Beakers (who are NW Euros) are the same in that regards. Most NW Euros carry more farmer ancestry.

The distance is based on distance to Yamnaya. I don't plot on a PCA with actual Mordvins at the exclusion of other NW Euros, but with Scandinavians and Anglo-Saxons instead. Which is perfectly in line with my ancestry.

Vessna

01-02-2025, 01:17 PM

I have no theory as to why, but the Bell Beakers (who are NW Euros) are the same in that regards. Most NW Euros carry more farmer ancestry.

The distance is based on distance to Yamnaya. I don't plot on a PCA with actual Mordvins at the exclusion of other NW Euros, more so at the top corner.

Can you share your coordinates?

Asega

01-02-2025, 01:20 PM

Can you share your coordinates?

Sure.

Asega_scaled,0.133173,0.116786,0.06939,0.069122,0. 031698,0.023427,0.00188,0.003461,-0.004556,-0.006378,0.000812,0.009142,-0.009366,-0.009909,0.026058,0.013922,-0.009779,0.001801,0.005405,0.009603,0.009109,0.007 543,-0.000123,0.020846,0.002754

Vessna

01-02-2025, 01:23 PM

Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 7.0505% / 0.07050520
46.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA:PES001
38.8 Anatolia_15KYA:ZBC_IPB001
14.0 Caucasus_15KYA:KK1
0.6 Southern_Europe_15KYA:Villabruna

Your results are close to mine, including the distance. Even poles here have closer distance and more Anatolian. How is this possible?
Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 7.9853% / 0.07985337
47.4 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
41.6 Anatolia_15KYA
10.8 Caucasus_15KYA
0.2 Southern_Europe_15KYA

Asega

01-02-2025, 01:28 PM

Your results are close to mine, including the distance. Even poles here have closer distance and more Anatolian. How is this possible?
Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 7.9853% / 0.07985337
47.4 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
41.6 Anatolia_15KYA
10.8 Caucasus_15KYA
0.2 Southern_Europe_15KYA

Like Davidski said, NW Euros and Eastern Euros have basically identical proportions of ancient ancestry.

There are Scandinavians who score less Anatolian than both of us on that calc:

135789

Asega

01-02-2025, 02:05 PM

What do your coordinates give you on the K105 calc?

Distance to: Asega_scaled
0.03006872 Iceland
0.03084273 Sweden
0.03090052 Norway
0.03416507 Denmark
0.03688936 Ireland
0.03838554 Scotland
0.04137944 Holland
0.04380440 Wales
0.04382835 England
0.05151973 Germany
0.05936567 Czech_Republic
0.06316809 Belgium
0.06345680 Austria
0.06464761 Slovakia
0.06744129 Hungary
0.06758051 Poland
0.07357850 Slovenia
0.07384938 Croatia
0.07425813 Ukraine
0.07520512 Belarus
0.07569095 Russia
0.07892048 Estonia
0.08050186 Moldova
0.08235322 Bosnia
0.08413357 France

Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 2.3091% / 0.02309075
86.0 Iceland
10.6 Finland
1.6 Peru
1.4 Tajikistan
0.4 India

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 02:09 PM

Your results are close to mine, including the distance. Even poles here have closer distance and more Anatolian. How is this possible?
Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 7.9853% / 0.07985337
47.4 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
41.6 Anatolia_15KYA
10.8 Caucasus_15KYA
0.2 Southern_Europe_15KYA

Asega has more Eastern_Europe_15KYA than any Dutch or Icelandic sample of all the modern scaled official. Perhaps we are dealing with an outlier man? lol

Is anyone else on the forum here the extreme end/top/bottom of these groupings based on their own ethnicity?

https://i.postimg.cc/Z5ZShnqz/asega-vs-dutch.jpg (https://postimg.cc/svn8YVST)

Asega

01-02-2025, 02:12 PM

Asega has more Eastern_Europe_15KYA than any Dutch sample of all the modern scaled official. Perhaps we are dealing with an outlier man? lol

Is anyone else on the forum here the extreme end/top/bottom of these groupings based on their own ethnicity?

https://i.postimg.cc/Z5ZShnqz/asega-vs-dutch.jpg (https://postimg.cc/svn8YVST)

These Dutch samples are from Holland by the way. They are not representative for Frisians or Groningers. It's like using New Yorkers to represent Montana.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Holland_position.svg/800px-Holland_position.svg.png

Nurzat

01-02-2025, 02:33 PM

Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 6.6695% / 0.06669498
46.8 Anatolia_15KYA
36.0 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
11.0 Caucasus_15KYA
5.0 Iran_15KYA
1.2 Levant_15KYA

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 5.6563% / 0.05656290
49.8 Anatolia_15KYA
32.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
12.6 Caucasus_15KYA
5.0 Iran_15KYA

Target: Nurzat_maternal_grandma
Distance: 6.0299% / 0.06029942
50.8 Anatolia_15KYA
29.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
14.4 Caucasus_15KYA
3.0 Iran_15KYA
2.2 Levant_15KYA

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 02:38 PM

These Dutch samples are from Holland by the way. They are not representative for Frisians or Groningers. It's like using New Yorkers to represent Montana.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Holland_position.svg/800px-Holland_position.svg.png

Can you show Tolan Recent Ancestors v2?

Also do you have any known ancestry from the East genealogically speaking? I understand that some groups in the West can have high Yamnaya, but in all the samples I've ever seen from the West you are on top of every single one so it's rather shocking I imagine you can understand

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 02:41 PM

These Dutch samples are from Holland by the way. They are not representative for Frisians or Groningers. It's like using New Yorkers to represent Montana.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Holland_position.svg/800px-Holland_position.svg.png

Also do you have any official samples in modern times from those places you're talking about and have highlighted? I know I get somewhere around 60% Frisian at no ADC using the raw k13 regional data with all samples in

Asega

01-02-2025, 02:46 PM

Can you show Tolan Recent Ancestors v2?

Also do you have any known ancestry from the East genealogically speaking? I understand that some groups in the West can have high Yamnaya, but in all the samples I've ever seen from the West you are on top of every single one so it's rather shocking I imagine you can understand

Not sure what that is.

No. My ancestry solely goes back back to Friesland:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Friesland_in_the_Netherlands.svg/800px-Friesland_in_the_Netherlands.svg.png

Asega

01-02-2025, 02:47 PM

Also do you have any official samples in modern times from those places you're talking about and have highlighted? I know I get somewhere around 60% Frisian at no ADC using the raw k13 regional data with all samples in

I only know of one Frisian sample on G25 (besides mine).

I use the Anglo-Saxons in G25 for comparison. Genetically they are representative for northern Dutch.

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 02:51 PM

Not sure what that is.

No. My ancestry solely goes back back to Friesland:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Friesland_in_the_Netherlands.svg/800px-Friesland_in_the_Netherlands.svg.png

I think you must be the ultimate Northwest European outlier for these things and maybe everyone who has genetics from that area including myself should then show higher proportions from ancient Eurasia for whatever reason wouldn't you think? You should contact the creator of the samples and get some more samples from that area I would think. I wonder if you trace back in time the best you can from where you're located step by step to see the proportions of assimilation of your groups from the East into the West because I'm curious how they got there before example the yamnaya did obviously take a more Central pathway through Europe even down into some Southern parts before moving North for the modern Northern Europeans but it also branched North in the beginning I'm not sure roughly what year that was but I know there was one group that moved towards the baltics and one group that moved towards more South Central Europe and even Central Europe

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 02:56 PM

Not sure what that is.

No. My ancestry solely goes back back to Friesland:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Friesland_in_the_Netherlands.svg/800px-Friesland_in_the_Netherlands.svg.png

I think you can find it online on some other websites but I use this one in the photo this is my result using my merged data file

https://i.postimg.cc/rmvdWNz7/IMG-20250102-WA0005.jpg (https://postimg.cc/2b78NvQx)

Asega

01-02-2025, 03:15 PM

I think you must be the ultimate Northwest European outlier for these things and maybe everyone who has genetics from that area including myself should then show higher proportions from ancient Eurasia for whatever reason wouldn't you think? You should contact the creator of the samples and get some more samples from that area I would think. I wonder if you trace back in time the best you can from where you're located step by step to see the proportions of assimilation of your groups from the East into the West because I'm curious how they got there before example the yamnaya did obviously take a more Central pathway through Europe even down into some Southern parts before moving North for the modern Northern Europeans but it also branched North in the beginning I'm not sure roughly what year that was but I know there was one group that moved towards the baltics and one group that moved towards more South Central Europe and even Central Europe

It's quite simple: yes I appear to be a bit of an outlier, though I'm sure with more samples from my area of the North Sea (Northern NL, Northwest Germany and Denmark) there will be one's pretty much identical to mine. There is obviously some diversity present in the ratio's of ancient ancestry proportions but they are not that statistically significant.

There are quite a few samples from my region (especially Denmark) but we still lack samples from certain area's and time periods.

Early Single Grave (2800-2500 BC) and early Bohemian Corded Ware were identical. Single Grave descends from early Bohemian Corded Ware. Single Grave was also rooted in Northern NL, Northwest Germany and Denmark. The route was from Bohemia following the Elbe culminating into the North Sea (see Egfjord 2021).

In terms of Steppe admixture:

- Early Bohemian Corded Ware (2900-2600 BCE) ~ 80% Steppe
- Early Single Grave (2800-2500 BCE) ~ 80% Steppe
- Late Single Grave/Bell Beaker (2600-2350 BCE) ~ 60% Steppe
- Late Neolithic-Bronze Age Denmark (2350-1700 BCE) ~ 55% Steppe

That's why I speak of LNBA continuity in my region. Genetically my region has remained unchanged for the last 4k years.

A subset of Anglo-Saxons (who by the way share a common ancestor with Frisians) plot identical to me.

Fistora

01-02-2025, 03:29 PM

North Dutch, English, British by apricity members samples

135796
samples were used via this link: https://pastebin.com/dBt2LWtC

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 03:33 PM

You, me, and Groningen vs this Peterski calc and the Yamnaya 3-way:

https://i.postimg.cc/3NxQYt84/Groningen-15kya.jpg (https://postimg.cc/gXQTKq6m)

https://i.postimg.cc/9MpH66hH/groningen-yamnaya.jpg (https://postimg.cc/tZYcPmJB)

ScandinavianCelt

01-02-2025, 03:40 PM

North Dutch, English, British by apricity members samples

135796
samples were used via this link: https://pastebin.com/dBt2LWtC

Thank you. I match the Frisian guy exactly for Yamnaya (53.4%) from your sample list (Elske):

https://i.postimg.cc/6pbQ4G2G/brad-elske-frisian-yamnaya.jpg (https://postimg.cc/v49ypTvQ)

Asega

01-02-2025, 03:40 PM

Thank you. I match the Frisian guy exactly for Yamnaya (53.4%) from your sample list (Elske):

https://i.postimg.cc/6pbQ4G2G/brad-elske-frisian-yamnaya.jpg (https://postimg.cc/v49ypTvQ)

Elske is a feminine name. That was also whom I was referring to earlier.

I only know of one Frisian sample on G25 (besides mine).

R1b-L51

01-03-2025, 12:59 AM

15 Thousand years of discussion

Rhegion

01-05-2025, 01:19 AM

Target: Me
Distance: 3.8839% / 0.03883856
50.2 Anatolia_15KYA
18.4 Caucasus_15KYA
15.8 Levant_15KYA
9.6 Iran_15KYA
5.2 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
0.8 North_Eurasia_15KYA

Target: Father
Distance: 3.5042% / 0.03504230
48.8 Anatolia_15KYA
17.0 Levant_15KYA
15.4 Caucasus_15KYA
12.2 Iran_15KYA
4.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
2.0 North_Eurasia_15KYA

Target: Maternal_Grandpa
Distance: 3.5744% / 0.03574404
52.6 Anatolia_15KYA
20.2 Caucasus_15KYA
12.2 Levant_15KYA
9.4 Iran_15KYA
5.6 Eastern_Europe_15KYA

Target: Maternal_Grandma
Distance: 3.6156% / 0.03615596
51.6 Anatolia_15KYA
18.8 Caucasus_15KYA
15.6 Levant_15KYA
10.2 Iran_15KYA
3.8 Eastern_Europe_15KYA

Target: Cousin
Distance: 2.7014% / 0.02701399
55.2 Anatolia_15KYA
16.6 Caucasus_15KYA
13.2 Iran_15KYA
10.6 Levant_15KYA
4.4 North_Eurasia_15KYA

Beowulf

01-08-2025, 10:39 PM

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0510% / 0.05103012
58.8 Anatolia_15KYA
23.3 Eastern_Europe_15KYA
13.2 Caucasus_15KYA
2.7 Southern_Europe_15KYA
2.0 Iran_15KYA