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Gannicus
01-01-2025, 12:43 AM
My G25 coordinates were produced from a merged DNA file from raw data from 4 tests 23&Me (V4, V5), Ancestry.com, and MyHeritage.com. The merging was done on DNAgenics with their Rawfile merger service. I uploaded my merged file to IllustrativeDNA.com (before the update) to get G25 coordinates created.
Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled,0.129758,0.139128,0.057 322,0.03553,0.040315,0.011156,-0.00611,0.003923,0.005113,0.008565,-0.009094,0.009891,-0.008622,-0.020231,0.023208,0.010475,-0.004433,-0.000507,0.004022,0.003001,0.011729,0.004699,-0.00419,0.015544,0.001437
Tell me what you all think.
Fistora
01-01-2025, 01:17 AM
Do you mean new illustrativedna coords or before update one? If you want old one, this is the list of TA members: https://pastebin.com/dBt2LWtC
my new coordinates: Oskar,-0.19176755,-0.077703194,0.041651353,-0.024266679,0.033856131,-0.062260962,0.0062441268,-0.00077846002,0.010715671,-0.0066268333,-0.0037950072,-0.0014501655,0.0054729078,-0.00064594891,0.0095636029,-0.0082645072,-0.0050030081,0.0042636839,0.013862152,0.0022641113 ,-0.0024936118,0.00011802542,0.01199964,-0.017516216,0.0062057546
Gannicus
01-01-2025, 01:19 AM
What I'd like to know too is that with various calculations in G25, admixtures of 1-2% or a bit higher indicative of a real feature in one's DNA? I've always thought that less than 1% was noise.
Gannicus
01-01-2025, 01:21 AM
I mean the regular G25 coordinates you have from before the update or from Davidski.
Fistora
01-01-2025, 01:41 AM
Oskar_scaled,0.132035,0.125926,0.066373,0.052972,0 .042777,0.020359,0.00799,0.011076,0.005113,-0.010752,-0.009419,-0.002398,0.00773,0.018304,-0.011129,0.012861,0.021774,-0.000633,0.004777,0.002251,-0.001248,-0.00136,0.010599,0.004458,-0.000359
celticdragongod
01-01-2025, 02:15 AM
CDG_scaled,0.134311,0.135065,0.063356,0.04845,0.03 7545,0.019801,0.003995,0.010153,0.007363,0.000911,-0.003735,0.006294,-0.01442,-0.009358,0.020222,-0.000133,-0.014342,0,0.007793,0.006628,-0.000374,0.000989,0.008258,0.016629,-0.001437
CDG,0.0118,0.0133,0.0168,0.015,0.0122,0.0071,0.001 7,0.0044,0.0036,0.0005,-0.0023,0.0042,-0.0097,-0.0068,0.0149,-0.0001,-0.011,0,0.0062,0.0053,-0.0003,0.0008,0.0067,0.0138,-0.0012
Gannicus
01-01-2025, 02:37 AM
Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.03595764 CDG_scaled
0.07487049 Oskar_scaled
Gannicus
01-01-2025, 02:41 AM
https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculator/148/g25-world-countries-calculator-k105.htm
Target: Oskar_scaled
Distance: 0.0209% / 0.02087462 | R4P
100.0 Slovakia
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.0160% / 0.01602462 | R4P
49.3 England
40.0 Ireland
6.0 Lithuania
4.7 Norway
Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0193% / 0.01932071 | R4P
61.5 Ireland
25.8 France
10.2 Iceland
2.5 Yemen
Gannicus
01-01-2025, 04:45 PM
Can you all guess my ancestry based on my G25 coordinates? :P
gixajo
01-01-2025, 06:42 PM
Again:
gixajo_scaled,0.120652,0.149283,0.04186,0.005168,0 .048009,-0.002789,0.002115,0.001385,0.025361,0.034443,-0.003573,0.009292,-0.013231,-0.006881,0.016151,-0.000133,-0.002608,0.00038,-0.006536,0.002501,-0.002496,0.001855,-0.006039,-0.005302,-0.005508
https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculator/148/g25-world-countries-calculator-k105.htm
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6952% / 0.01695233 | R4P
88.4 Spain
11.6 France
vader
01-01-2025, 07:54 PM
Merged coords:
Algarvio_scaled,0.09963572,0.13881494,0.03841994,-0.00546660,0.04418838,-0.00084892,-0.00134260,0.00308204,0.02643976,0.02866560,-0.00249810,0.00652728,-0.01377018,-0.01229006,0.00826574,0.00220268,0.00397040,-0.00235192,-0.00165214,-0.00477828,0.00349124,-0.00201484,0.00011702,-0.00263502,-0.00321993
R1b-L51
01-01-2025, 10:28 PM
ROBERTOFERN_scaled,0.100164,0.140143,0.035449,-0.000323,0.041854,-0.005578,0.00282,0.002538,0.020861,0.030616,-0.00406,0.006894,-0.013528,-0.009221,0.008007,-0.005967,-0.006258,-0.000253,-0.011816,-0.002626,0.004742,-0.012118,-0.010599,-0.003253,0.001437
LOL
Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.9506% / 0.01950633 | R4P
85.8 Spain
8.6 Morocco
3.0 Ukraine
2.6 Turkmenistan
Gannicus
01-01-2025, 11:53 PM
Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.06292452 gixajo_scaled
0.07122745 Algarvio_scaled
0.07370183 ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Kenshiro
01-02-2025, 12:03 AM
Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 2.1271% / 0.02127087
44.2 Italy
32.8 Albania
7.4 Georgia
6.6 Greece
4.2 Armenia
3.4 Spain
1.4 Colombia
Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 2.1340% / 0.02133971 | R4P
54.2 Italy
33.0 Albania
11.0 Georgia
1.8 Mexico
Kenshiro_scaled,0.114961,0.140143,0.008297,-0.023902,0.01508,-0.008646,-0.004465,0.001615,-0.001841,0.014761,0.001786,0.010641,-0.009812,-0.007707,-0.012351,-0.007425,0.011343,0.002914,-0.00088,-0.013632,-0.004742,0.006306,0.001849,-0.003133,-0.001317
Gannicus
01-02-2025, 12:03 AM
https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculator/159/bronze-age-calculator-2023-davide-von-gauss.htm
Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.03595764 CDG_scaled
0.06292452 gixajo_scaled
0.07122745 Algarvio_scaled
0.07370183 ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.07487049 Oskar_scaled
0.10183020 Kenshiro_scaled
Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 0.0146% / 0.01462976 | R4P
44.6 Minoan
31.5 MDA_BA
16.2 Helladic
7.7 ROU_BA
Target: Oskar_scaled
Distance: 0.0225% / 0.02250588 | R4P
39.4 Baltic_BA
23.5 HUN_BA
19.8 France_BA
17.3 Mycenaean
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.0209% / 0.02086461 | R4P
72.8 NLD_BA
14.1 Bell_Beaker_ITA
8.2 Helladic
4.9 Baltic_BA
Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 0.0182% / 0.01822175 | R4P
48.9 Iberia_BA
25.6 Nordic_BA
19.7 Mycenaean
5.8 NorthAfrica_EN
Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 0.0106% / 0.01059741 | R4P
37.5 BritishIslands_BA
29.4 Iberia_BA
25.4 LateMinoan
7.7 NorthAfrica_EN
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 0.0138% / 0.01379012 | R4P
48.4 Iberia_BA
32.2 BritishIslands_BA
14.8 Helladic
4.6 NorthAfrica_EN
Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0204% / 0.02038530 | R4P
80.7 BritishIslands_BA
11.8 Italia_BA
4.5 Bell_Beaker_ITA
3.0 Levant_BA_e
Gannicus
01-02-2025, 03:51 PM
These are my new coordinates from Illustrativedna:
Gannicus_Mergedfile_NewIllustrativecoords_G25like,-0.19805501,-0.077703194,0.043619134,-0.022512461,0.0068166707,-0.04560251,0.0069191676,0.0043593761,0.0032742327,-0.0087417801,0.0042016152,-0.001713832,0.0031273759,-0.002971365,-0.011986382,0.00075131884,0.0073214753,-0.010111022,-0.0038572944,-0.0023832751,0.016030362,0.010268212,0.0065880376, 0.0058779248,0.0024588839
So I hear that this is Illustrative's own 25 coordinate PCA system that is not G25. Is that right?
Does anyone have access to the ancient samples with their new coordinates? All I see is the modern data sheet
Wend-Kruzek
01-02-2025, 05:57 PM
My G25 coordinates were produced from a merged DNA file from raw data from 4 tests 23&Me (V4, V5), Ancestry.com, and MyHeritage.com. The merging was done on DNAgenics with their Rawfile merger service. I uploaded my merged file to IllustrativeDNA.com (before the update) to get G25 coordinates created.
Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled,0.129758,0.139128,0.057 322,0.03553,0.040315,0.011156,-0.00611,0.003923,0.005113,0.008565,-0.009094,0.009891,-0.008622,-0.020231,0.023208,0.010475,-0.004433,-0.000507,0.004022,0.003001,0.011729,0.004699,-0.00419,0.015544,0.001437
Tell me what you all think.
I think that the raw rs data on the chromosomes should be the same.:rolleyes: another is the interpretation
New: Cord 15.12.2024 ilustrative
kruzek_scal_dna_data,-0.19019568,-0.083545539,0.044275061,-0.02338957,0.023176681,-0.053098814,0.0079317287,0.00046707601,0.003571890 3,-0.0057808546,-0.0084032303,-0.0031639975,0.014073192,-0.0040048833,-0.0028053235,-0.0048835725,-0.004148836,0.0096237436,-0,-0.00023832751,-0.0055809408,-0.010740313,-0.0025881576,0.00082290947,-0.0053861266
Wend-Kruzek
01-02-2025, 06:12 PM
These are my new coordinates from Illustrativedna:
Gannicus_Mergedfile_NewIllustrativecoords_G25like,-0.19805501,-0.077703194,0.043619134,-0.022512461,0.0068166707,-0.04560251,0.0069191676,0.0043593761,0.0032742327,-0.0087417801,0.0042016152,-0.001713832,0.0031273759,-0.002971365,-0.011986382,0.00075131884,0.0073214753,-0.010111022,-0.0038572944,-0.0023832751,0.016030362,0.010268212,0.0065880376, 0.0058779248,0.0024588839
So I hear that this is Illustrative's own 25 coordinate PCA system that is not G25. Is that right?
Does anyone have access to the ancient samples with their new coordinates? All I see is the modern data sheet
You have old samples everywhere on the forum, you can even find the coordinates of people from the forum, and look at vahuado and others, for the new Illustrative DNA you have only a link to their page,
Dušan
01-02-2025, 06:16 PM
Dušan_scaled,0.127482,0.13405,0.046386,0.024225,0. 03416,0.006136,0.01081,0.007846,0.000205,0.001822,-0.001137,0.000749,0.002676,0.022157,-0.021851,-0.018297,-0.002217,0.000507,0.003771,-0.005878,-0.003868,-0.006554,0.004314,-0.004217,-0.001796
Gannicus
01-02-2025, 11:27 PM
You have old samples everywhere on the forum, you can even find the coordinates of people from the forum, and look at vahuado and others, for the new Illustrative DNA you have only a link to their page,
I have access to plenty of G25 coordinates. For the new 25 coordinate PCA system of IllustrativeDNA.com, all I have are the modern averages: https://api.illustrativedna.com/datasheet/DeepAncestry_Modern_Averages_Spreadsheet.txt. I can't seem to find if they have published the ancient ones yet for download.
Gannicus
01-03-2025, 01:40 AM
Dušan_scaled,0.127482,0.13405,0.046386,0.024225,0. 03416,0.006136,0.01081,0.007846,0.000205,0.001822,-0.001137,0.000749,0.002676,0.022157,-0.021851,-0.018297,-0.002217,0.000507,0.003771,-0.005878,-0.003868,-0.006554,0.004314,-0.004217,-0.001796
Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.08105618 Dušan_scaled
unmoggable
01-04-2025, 02:16 PM
unmoggable,0.129143,0.135682,0.055025,0.039213,0.0 36095,0.015611,0.004471,0.005225,0.001750,0.000359 ,-0.006014,0.004548,-0.010986,-0.007124,0.018892,0.005281,-0.005276,0.000943,0.001082,0.004396,0.004622,0.001 380,0.000763,0.013199,-0.000528
Wend-Kruzek
01-04-2025, 04:28 PM
I have access to plenty of G25 coordinates. For the new 25 coordinate PCA system of IllustrativeDNA.com, all I have are the modern averages: https://api.illustrativedna.com/datasheet/DeepAncestry_Modern_Averages_Spreadsheet.txt. I can't seem to find if they have published the ancient ones yet for download.
yes. I know. the ancient ones have not been published. No one knows what reference samples they use. they have to finish it.
Caution: These results are subject to change;) I'm waiting
Gannicus
01-05-2025, 12:36 AM
unmoggable,0.129143,0.135682,0.055025,0.039213,0.0 36095,0.015611,0.004471,0.005225,0.001750,0.000359 ,-0.006014,0.004548,-0.010986,-0.007124,0.018892,0.005281,-0.005276,0.000943,0.001082,0.004396,0.004622,0.001 380,0.000763,0.013199,-0.000528
So far you are the closest to me out of the forum members so far:
Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.02511757 unmoggable
Gannicus
01-05-2025, 08:13 PM
How would you all model me with G25?
Gannicus
01-07-2025, 03:34 PM
Here is one of my favorite ways to model myself with ancient populations
Egyptian_Old_Kingdom_Period_Gizeh:I6409,0.02966524 7,0.13868540,-0.047587444,-0.14426329,-0.0022221347,-0.063518622,-0.014261081,-0.013556098,0.087986490,0.0041161682,-0.0028172711,-0.019512651,0.055365686,0.0068209691,0.0071103512, 0.014172621,-0.0011899901,-0.019799603,-0.021658496,0.032836460,-0.0024145371,-0.010472191,-0.0046426664,-0.0034683108,0.0029676763
Egyptian_Old_Middle_Kingdom_Period_Dahshur:I10020, 0.011530275,0.13728656,-0.049170061,-0.11359996,0.00099127203,-0.049440638,-0.020387999,-0.0026683728,0.062675346,-0.0081175666,0.0020009024,-0.011293133,0.028314321,0.020438082,0.0095046032,0 .0088030027,-0.017175880,-0.0096735594,-0.0038784026,0.00068539449,0.0029141859,-0.015338366,-0.0043286787,-0.0012691466,0.0014364105
England_MIA_LIA:I21310,0.132035,0.138112,0.053174, 0.041667,0.041238,0.013666,0.00423,0.005077,0.0053 18,0.014032,-0.007307,0.007793,-0.013231,-0.016515,0.02443,0.005967,-0.010952,0.003927,-0.000126,0.002126,0.003993,0.005688,-0.003944,0.006507,-0.006586
Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG,0.129758,0.133034,0. 078064,0.06783,0.056934,0.023148,0.000705,0.011076 ,0.013499,-0.005467,-0.003573,0.00015,-0.005798,-0.008808,0.018865,0.011668,-0.007432,-0.00076,0.004777,0.008254,0.00262,0.005564,-0.002711,0.019159,-0.000359
Netherlands_LIA:I17750,0.134311,0.120848,0.072407, 0.049096,0.03416,0.019522,0.009165,0.005769,-0.004704,-0.008565,-0.009743,0.006594,-0.013231,-0.005918,0.019272,0.019491,0.009388,0.00228,0.0085 47,0.007629,0.004866,0.006925,0.011832,0.015785,-0.001078
Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_Etruscan:TAQ004,0.132035,0.153 345,0.04186,-0.006137,0.047393,-0.007809,0.00752,0.005307,0.018612,0.047381,-0.000487,0.01139,-0.021407,-0.007569,-0.003393,0.012463,0.021513,0.00038,0.001508,-0.00075,-0.001373,0.003462,-0.001109,-0.004217,-0.001557
I usually swap out either a near east or mediterranean individual and specifically model with 3 sometimes 4 populations.
Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0209% / 0.02089889
73.0 England_MIA_LIA:I21310
20.6 Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
3.4 Egyptian_Old_Kingdom_Period_Gizeh:I6409
3.0 Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_Etruscan:TAQ004
Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0213% / 0.02126116
77.6 England_MIA_LIA:I21310
18.5 Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
3.9 Egyptian_Old_Middle_Kingdom_Period_Dahshur:I10020
Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0223% / 0.02225555
75.4 England_MIA_LIA:I21310
16.4 Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
8.2 Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_Etruscan:TAQ004
Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0200% / 0.02000674
67.9 England_MIA_LIA:I21310
14.4 Netherlands_LIA:I17750
12.0 Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
3.5 Egyptian_Old_Kingdom_Period_Gizeh:I6409
2.2 Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_Etruscan:TAQ004
rodolfor90
01-15-2025, 04:16 AM
Merged coordinates:
rodolfor90_scaled,0.072847,0.026404,0.054682,0.008 721,-0.002462,-0.010598,-0.072853,-0.078458,0.013499,0.017677,-0.003735,0.001199,-0.00892,-0.00523,0.007193,0.004243,0.001043,-0.001647,-0.008799,-0.000125,-0.001373,-0.004699,0.00037,-0.001446,-0.001676
I modelled myself with the iberian coordinates of the forum and got the following:
Target: rodolfor90_scaled
Distance: 1.3981% / 0.01398058
72.8 Iberian
24.8 Amerindian
2.4 Sub_Saharan_African
Rafael Passoni
01-15-2025, 06:24 AM
Old ones:
IllustrativednaOld_scaled,0.125205,0.153345,0.0192 33,-0.024548,0.037853,-0.008646,0.000235,0.002538,0.011862,0.030433,-0.005034,0.009442,-0.014123,0.000963,-0.006786,-0.005834,0.013169,-0.002787,0.011941,0.005002,-0.004617,-0.003339,0.002342,0.004699,-0.008981
IllustrativednaOld,0.011,0.0151,0.0051,-0.0076,0.0123,-0.0031,0.0001,0.0011,0.0058,0.0167,-0.0031,0.0063,-0.0095,0.0007,-0.005,-0.0044,0.0101,-0.0022,0.0095,0.004,-0.0037,-0.0027,0.0019,0.0039,-0.0075
New IllustrativeDNA:
Illustrativednanew,-0.20905806,-0.066018503,0.024269293,-0.046779141,-0.028630017,0.014159684,0,0.025066413,0.012352787,-0.010574734,0.012062702,0.0021093316,0.0040395272,-0.0036173139,-0.016576912,0.0013774179,0.010250065,-0.0085273677,0.0031340517,0.0021449476,-0.0017811513,-0.0056652202,0.00199994,-0.01328411,-0.0060886649
Beowulf
01-15-2025, 10:36 AM
Beowulf_Scaled,0.1228117,0.1448503,0.0410504,0.008 5708,0.0394156,0.0030563,0.0041533,0.004854,0.0126 114,0.0245238,-0.0086741,0.0019535,-0.012332,-0.0083297,0.0067736,0.0013258,0.0047512,-0.0055111,-0.0010575,-0.001801,0.0007706,0.0004732,0.0005798,0.0033846,0 .0002742
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 1.2196% / 0.01219595
37.0 Spain
35.4 Switzerland
11.0 France
10.4 Romania
2.8 Ireland
2.6 Slovakia
0.8 Austria
<tbody>
Distance to:
Beowulf_Scaled
0.01625542
Switzerland
0.01939509
France
0.02499153
Spain
0.03226441
Portugal
0.03335133
Belgium
0.04264005
Romania
0.04468713
Montenegro
0.04581431
Bulgaria
0.04746090
Austria
0.04783113
Serbia
0.05037510
North_Macedonia
0.05211863
Italy
0.05354574
Albania
0.05452134
Wales
0.05528029
Holland
0.05538008
Germany
0.05558898
England
0.05582195
Bosnia
0.05588779
Hungary
0.05589690
Croatia
0.05668514
Slovenia
0.05899515
Moldova
0.06039623
Scotland
0.06307817
Ireland
0.06427859
Czech_Republic
</tbody>
Gannicus
01-15-2025, 03:56 PM
Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.02511757 unmoggable
0.03595764 CDG_scaled
0.05095701 Beowulf_Scaled
0.06292452 gixajo_scaled
0.07122745 Algarvio_scaled
0.07370183 ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.07487049 Oskar_scaled
0.08105618 Dušan_scaled
0.09429328 Rafael_Passoni_IllustrativednaOld_scaled
0.10183020 Kenshiro_scaled
0.17826454 rodolfor90_scaled
For fun to see what it would do:
Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0237% / 0.02367884
84.3 unmoggable
12.1 gixajo_scaled
2.5 CDG_scaled
1.1 rodolfor90_scaled
Michalis Moriopoulos
01-17-2025, 09:28 AM
ROBERTOFERN_scaled,0.100164,0.140143,0.035449,-0.000323,0.041854,-0.005578,0.00282,0.002538,0.020861,0.030616,-0.00406,0.006894,-0.013528,-0.009221,0.008007,-0.005967,-0.006258,-0.000253,-0.011816,-0.002626,0.004742,-0.012118,-0.010599,-0.003253,0.001437
LOL
Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.9506% / 0.01950633 | R4P
85.8 Spain
8.6 Morocco
3.0 Ukraine
2.6 Turkmenistan
I know you're from Leon but are you from the city of Leon itself or from elsewhere in the province? I'm curious if you're from an area where Leonese is still spoken or if you're in the Castilian area.
R1b-L51
04-08-2025, 02:17 AM
I know you're from Leon but are you from the city of Leon itself or from elsewhere in the province? I'm curious if you're from an area where Leonese is still spoken or if you're in the Castilian area.
I'm from many areas of León, but none of them are Castilian. You just need to know that Leonese is part of modern Spanish; it has nothing to do with Asturian. Leonese was already written down by the kings of León in the charters (ancient laws and rights) they gave to their cities.
For example, to give you an idea, you can read the charter of Zamora or that of Mayorga de Campos (cities that were formerly Leonese). If you can look them up, you'll love seeing an early phase of Spanish.
For now, if you'd like, you can look up other Leonese charters, such as that of Sanabria, of which I've found... read a fragment:
https://www.boe.es/biblioteca_juridica/abrir_pdf.php?id=PUB-LH-2018-61
De omezio
[16] Omne que fezier homezio, dé rayz en C maravedís se él non ovier valor de
C maravedís; e se él ovier valor de C maravedís, sea raygado por sí mismo e esté
sobre sua bona. E se non ovier valor de C maravedís, o non podier aver rayz en C
maravedís, pase a mano de los iuyzes.
De quien mata omne
[17] Omne que a otro matar conseyeramientre, aquelos que hy acaescieren,
priendanno e denno a los iuyzes e fagan de so cuerpo iusticia, e pierda quanto ovier.
E aquelos que si acertaren, se dixieren: «non lo podiemos prender», iuren per suas
cabeszas que lo non podieron prender, e escapen. E se lo non quisieren iurar, pechen
el omezio.
De los fiyos que fazen omizio
[18] Omne que ovier fillo que fezier omezio, elos iuyzes lelo demanden e fagan
dél sua iusticia. E se ellos iuyzes no lo axaren, el padre o la madre non pierda por él
su aver, nen responda por él.
[19] De buelta conoscida, de V omnes duna parte e V dotra o desí ariba, hu
omnes fueren muertos, xamen elos parientes del muerto e vayan a la alarda a los IX
dias hu fazen el conceyo. E a los que fueren ena buelta denonbrada e hy non venieren,
non ayan couo nenguno, e sean homezianes conoscidos. A aquelos que podieren fir-
mar con V omnes bonos que andavan ena buelta denonbrada, en bando e con armas,
nengun coto non ayan. E daqueles que exiren al alarde, tomen por cada un muerto
III omezianes, e pechen el omezio. E desde omezio aya tercia parte el merino del rey
e la otra tercia elos iuyzes, e ela tercia elos parientes del muerto.
Estos omezianes ayan atal contenimiento contra los parientes del muerto: hu
los viren, tuelganselles de la carrera, e se non entren en alguna casa; e se non pueden
aver casa en que entre, pornenle elas espaldas. E estos homezianes ayan atal couto
per el monte dAloa, poral camin de Johan Cidielez e per Morales e per Ponteyos de
la Torre e per Arcinielas e per Vilaralvo el Mayor e per Cubiellos e per Sancta Maria
de la Geniesta e per las Manbras e pelos Penedos de Congosta e por Carascal, que
dizen Aldea de Peleyalvo. E de aqueste couto aquende, quien los corrir, se lo firma-
ren con V omnes bonos, beusennos elos parientes del muerto; e se los mataren, sean
por ende aleyvosos e pierdan quanto hovieren; e se los podieren prender, priendan-
nos sen calonnia.
In general, what you're asking for is impossible because what remains of León is absorbed into the Spanish language, just like Aragonese.
Please don't confuse León with Asturian Bable or Aragonese with the Aragonese fabla. These are modern, half-finished dialects, but they weren't the languages of León itself, nor the languages of the kings, but rather the languages of Asturian migrations that were probably later. Similarly, in Aragon, the Aragonese fabla doesn't represent the original Navarro-Aragonese language, as you can find in the Liber Regum.
León and Navarre-Aragonese formed modern Spanish.
However, Old Castilian was very similar to Bable and Fabla. Keep in mind that for a long time, Castile was merely a county dependent on other powerful kingdoms like León or Navarre.
Don't listen to linguists who don't know.
I recommend you read the grammar of the vulgar languages by the Lovaina publishing house (written by Bartolomé Gravio), also the Origins of Spanish by Menendez Pidal, and finally the entrance speech to the RAE by Inés Fernández-Ordoñez.
Fabricius
04-08-2025, 04:03 AM
Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled,0.062279,0.136277,0 .038303,0.004077,0.034646,0.000804,-0.005999,0.005168,0.013128,0.019726,-0.000483,0.002653,-0.003769,-0.001438,0.002556,-0.003173,-0.002162,-0.003864,-0.000962,-0.000449,-0.00072,-0.002918,0.002809,-0.002023,0.000422
Target: Fabricius_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.8581% / 0.01858062 | ADC: 0.5x
73.2 Portugal
16.0 Moldova
10.8 Dominican_Republic
Target: Fabricius_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.8946% / 0.00894622 | ADC: 0.25x
58.0 Portugal
16.2 Serbia
14.0 Dominican_Republic
11.0 Moldova
0.8 Algeria
Target: Fabricius_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.4803% / 0.00480343
43.8 Spain
18.4 Slovenia
12.2 Italy
5.4 Belarus
5.0 Bosnia
4.2 Dominican_Republic
3.6 Mauritania
3.2 Algeria
3.0 Nigeria
1.0 Morocco
0.2 Ecuador
Fabricius_g25_unscaled,0.005472,0.013419,0.010157, 0.001262,0.011258,0.000288,-0.002553,0.00224,0.006419,0.010824,-0.000297,0.00177,-0.002535,-0.001045,0.001883,-0.002393,-0.001658,-0.00305,-0.000765,-0.000359,-0.000577,-0.00236,0.002279,-0.001679,0.000352
Eurogenes K36
Fabricius_k36,0.66,1.76,0,3.7,0.05,0.26,0.7,0,3.34 ,0,7.25,4.87,4.9,3.32,2.33,19.7,0,16.41,0,0,5.49,7 .5,0,6.29,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6.29,1.62,3.55
Fabricius_k36-G25,0.061668,0.141530,0.040528,0.002793,0.037475,0 .001363,-0.007208,0.005597,0.013951,0.023244,-0.000817,0.002866,-0.005235,-0.000865,0.003232,-0.002591,-0.000745,-0.002918,-0.003054,-0.000606,0.000699,-0.006534,0.003015,-0.001708,0.002328
Eurogenes K15
Fabricius_K15,17.78,25.72,10.7,4.59,15.72,2.85,8.9 ,3.78,0,0,0,1.3,0,1.19,7.48
Fabricius_K15-G25,0.061138,0.142455,0.045723,0.008967,0.038127,0 .004260,-0.002913,0.001535,0.013854,0.020597,-0.003530,0.002314,-0.004274,0.000869,0.003423,-0.002246,-0.001438,-0.000695,-0.001767,0.001466,0.003705,-0.002101,-0.000306,-0.000625,0.000925
Eurogenes K13
Fabricius_K13,31.54,17.41,21.69,2.97,12.63,3.21,0, 0,0,1.73,0.17,0.71,7.93
Fabricius_K13-G25,0.062759,0.144232,0.046361,0.008926,0.037920,0 .003151,-0.005473,0.001473,0.011898,0.019353,0.002219,0.001 776,-0.002418,-0.003636,0.003109,-0.000951,-0.001291,-0.001565,-0.003132,0.000172,0.000346,-0.001020,0.000361,-0.001119,-0.000207
Fabricius
04-08-2025, 04:09 AM
My G25 coordinates were produced from a merged DNA file from raw data from 4 tests 23&Me (V4, V5), Ancestry.com, and MyHeritage.com. The merging was done on DNAgenics with their Rawfile merger service. I uploaded my merged file to IllustrativeDNA.com (before the update) to get G25 coordinates created.
Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled,0.129758,0.139128,0.057 322,0.03553,0.040315,0.011156,-0.00611,0.003923,0.005113,0.008565,-0.009094,0.009891,-0.008622,-0.020231,0.023208,0.010475,-0.004433,-0.000507,0.004022,0.003001,0.011729,0.004699,-0.00419,0.015544,0.001437
Tell me what you all think.
Distance to: Fabricius_g25_scaled
0.08934792 Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Solitude
04-08-2025, 09:40 AM
Can you all guess my ancestry based on my G25 coordinates? :P
Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 2.0391% / 0.02039084
61.2 British_Irish:Irish
29.6 French_German:French_North
9.2 French_German:French_South
Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 2.1116% / 0.02111637
60.8 British_Irish:Irish
20.0 French_German:French_South
19.2 British_Irish:English
Gannicus
04-08-2025, 07:34 PM
Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 2.0391% / 0.02039084
61.2 British_Irish:Irish
29.6 French_German:French_North
9.2 French_German:French_South
Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 2.1116% / 0.02111637
60.8 British_Irish:Irish
20.0 French_German:French_South
19.2 British_Irish:English
That was before I put my recent ancestry in my bio.
Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled,0.1297 58,0.139128,0.057322,0.03553,0.040315,0.011156,-0.00611,0.003923,0.005113,0.008565,-0.009094,0.009891,-0.008622,-0.020231,0.023208,0.010475,-0.004433,-0.000507,0.004148,0.003001,0.011729,0.004699,-0.00419,0.015544,0.001437
These were produced from Davidski; he offers the service for 15$. I don't think there is any difference between this and my merged file pre update IllustrativeDNA G25 coordinates.
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