View Full Version : What do you all make of my G25 results?
McHartman
01-05-2025, 01:07 PM
Firstly, hello guys and happy new year! I have been frequenting TA for a while now, so I thought why not actually join the ranks myself! There's just some fascinating 'stuff' on here....
On a more official note, I recently took a test with 23andMe and from the data at hand, now have my own G25 results. They are interesting. I wonder what one should make of this?
(Modern) Distance to: McHartman
0.00871522 Irish
0.01121580 Scottish
0.01124385 Orcadian
0.01173961 English_West_Midlands
0.01187006 English_East_England
0.01342098 Irish_Ulster
0.01347595 English
0.01347700 Irish_Connacht
0.01371377 Breton_Finistere
0.01394917 Dutch_North_Holland
0.01397816 Irish_Munster
0.01399555 Cornish
0.01402877 Welsh
0.01429025 Manx
0.01443109 Breton_Cotes-d'Armor
0.01460199 English_Southeast
0.01462637 Scottish_Southwest
0.01574888 Dutch_Gelderland
0.01613268 Dutch_Overijssel
0.01638503 Dutch_Central
0.01671969 Frisian_Netherlands
0.01722450 Dutch_North+Central
0.01770340 Dutch_North_Brabant
0.01775985 Dutch_South_Holland
0.01777403 English_Lancashire
(Ancient) Distance to: McHartman
0.01266523 England_Roman_Empire-Late_Antiquity
0.01354641 Ireland_Early-High_Medieval_Kilteasheen
0.01430881 England_MIA-LIA
0.01460237 England_MIA
0.01504600 Netherlands_Early_Medieval_Groningen
0.01506828 England_LBA
0.01528856 England_MIA_East_Yorkshire
0.01541104 Norway_North_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Insular_Ce ltic_Profile)
0.01542194 England_LIA_East_Yorkshire
0.01574066 Scotland_LIA
0.01591124 Scotland_Orkney_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Insular _Celtic_Profile)
0.01592063 Faroes_High_Medieval
0.01593134 Iceland_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Hofstadir
0.01630713 England_MIA-LIA_East_Yorkshire
0.01634022 England_Early_Medieval_Anglo-Saxon_Wolverton
0.01701143 England_IA
0.01719568 Scotland_LBA
0.01765477 England_LIA
0.01809139 Germany_High_Medieval_Schleswig_Rathausmarkt
0.01858162 England_Late_Antiquity-Early_Medieval_Anglo-Saxon_Oakington
0.01864226 England_EIA
0.01865385 Italy_Medieval_Lombard_Period_Collegno_(Northern_E uro_Profile)
0.01924331 Scotland_Orkney_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Mixed_I nsular_Celtic-Norse_Profile)
0.01924338 England_Early_Medieval_Anglo-Saxon_Hinxton
0.01970017 England_Early_Medieval_Anglo-Saxon_Sedgeford
I will elaborate as to what my own geneological background is (on paper) soon....
gixajo
01-05-2025, 01:43 PM
Those are G25 results or are results from IllustrativeDna and their new coordinates?
Wend-Kruzek
01-05-2025, 03:29 PM
Those are G25 results or are results from IllustrativeDna and their new coordinates?
that's a good question!
I mean Davidski or simulated
about the ancient ones from illustrative/new/, I have no knowledge
gixajo
01-05-2025, 03:44 PM
about the ancient ones from illustrative/new/, I have no knowledge
The list of modern population distances is not the official one but resembles that of IllustrativeDNa (English Lancashire etc...)and the list of ancient samples seems to be from one of the earliest Ajeje´s lists.( Northern_Euro_profile etc...)
Also distances to the first modern pop is very close, something inusual but not impossible, but could point to some simulated distances.(0.00871522 Irish)
Just curious , nothing else. :)
Edit: Modern pops can be better from that French site called ExploreYourDna...
ScandinavianCelt
01-05-2025, 03:57 PM
First time I've seen anyone get Manx.
It appears you are 100% insular-celtic type, so you must like Guinness, right? Or Irish Whiskey? Which part of Ireland prefers Guinness? Dublin?
ScandinavianCelt
01-05-2025, 04:18 PM
Firstly, hello guys and happy new year! I have been frequenting TA for a while now, so I thought why not actually join the ranks myself! There's just some fascinating 'stuff' on here....
On a more official note, I recently took a test with 23andMe and from the data at hand, now have my own G25 results. They are interesting. I wonder what one should make of this?
(Modern) Distance to: McHartman
0.00871522 Irish
0.01121580 Scottish
0.01124385 Orcadian
0.01173961 English_West_Midlands
0.01187006 English_East_England
0.01342098 Irish_Ulster
0.01347595 English
0.01347700 Irish_Connacht
0.01371377 Breton_Finistere
0.01394917 Dutch_North_Holland
0.01397816 Irish_Munster
0.01399555 Cornish
0.01402877 Welsh
0.01429025 Manx
0.01443109 Breton_Cotes-d'Armor
0.01460199 English_Southeast
0.01462637 Scottish_Southwest
0.01574888 Dutch_Gelderland
0.01613268 Dutch_Overijssel
0.01638503 Dutch_Central
0.01671969 Frisian_Netherlands
0.01722450 Dutch_North+Central
0.01770340 Dutch_North_Brabant
0.01775985 Dutch_South_Holland
0.01777403 English_Lancashire
(Ancient) Distance to: McHartman
0.01266523 England_Roman_Empire-Late_Antiquity
0.01354641 Ireland_Early-High_Medieval_Kilteasheen
0.01430881 England_MIA-LIA
0.01460237 England_MIA
0.01504600 Netherlands_Early_Medieval_Groningen
0.01506828 England_LBA
0.01528856 England_MIA_East_Yorkshire
0.01541104 Norway_North_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Insular_Ce ltic_Profile)
0.01542194 England_LIA_East_Yorkshire
0.01574066 Scotland_LIA
0.01591124 Scotland_Orkney_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Insular _Celtic_Profile)
0.01592063 Faroes_High_Medieval
0.01593134 Iceland_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Hofstadir
0.01630713 England_MIA-LIA_East_Yorkshire
0.01634022 England_Early_Medieval_Anglo-Saxon_Wolverton
0.01701143 England_IA
0.01719568 Scotland_LBA
0.01765477 England_LIA
0.01809139 Germany_High_Medieval_Schleswig_Rathausmarkt
0.01858162 England_Late_Antiquity-Early_Medieval_Anglo-Saxon_Oakington
0.01864226 England_EIA
0.01865385 Italy_Medieval_Lombard_Period_Collegno_(Northern_E uro_Profile)
0.01924331 Scotland_Orkney_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Mixed_I nsular_Celtic-Norse_Profile)
0.01924338 England_Early_Medieval_Anglo-Saxon_Hinxton
0.01970017 England_Early_Medieval_Anglo-Saxon_Sedgeford
I will elaborate as to what my own geneological background is (on paper) soon....
Assuming you got Illdna results, can you post your top 3-way Medieval Unsupervised model? Compare to my 23andMe result:
It's basically Irish-Bulgarian-Finnic.
Medieval Gael (Roscommon)
65.70%
Medieval Baltic Finn (Viking Age)
10.30%
Medieval South Slav (Ryahovets)
24.00%
McHartman
01-05-2025, 04:39 PM
Those are G25 results or are results from IllustrativeDna and their new coordinates?
These are certainly nothing to do with IllustrativeDNA. This is actually thanks to World Genetics, who 'processed' my raw data. I have, however, just put my data into the former. Should be hearing back from it tomorrow.
Beowulf
01-05-2025, 04:41 PM
These are certainly nothing to do with IllustrativeDNA. This is actually thanks to World Genetics, who 'processed' my raw data.
World Genetics?
gixajo
01-05-2025, 05:24 PM
These are certainly nothing to do with IllustrativeDNA. This is actually thanks to World Genetics, who 'processed' my raw data. I have, however, just put my data into the former. Should be hearing back from it tomorrow.
First time I hear about World Genetics.
Wend-Kruzek
01-05-2025, 09:25 PM
The list of modern population distances is not the official one but resembles that of IllustrativeDNa (English Lancashire etc...)and the list of ancient samples seems to be from one of the earliest Ajeje´s lists.( Northern_Euro_profile etc...)
Also distances to the first modern pop is very close, something inusual but not impossible, but could point to some simulated distances.(0.00871522 Irish)
Just curious , nothing else. :)
Edit: Modern pops can be better from that French site called ExploreYourDna...
Sorry, I said it wrong.
I meant that I don't know of any ancient G25 examples that are for the new coordinates from Illustrative.
so he had to use a different list.
McHartman
01-05-2025, 10:47 PM
The list of modern population distances is not the official one but resembles that of IllustrativeDNa (English Lancashire etc...)and the list of ancient samples seems to be from one of the earliest Ajeje´s lists.( Northern_Euro_profile etc...)
Also distances to the first modern pop is very close, something inusual but not impossible, but could point to some simulated distances.(0.00871522 Irish)
Just curious , nothing else. :)
Edit: Modern pops can be better from that French site called ExploreYourDna...
IllustrativeDNA just got back to me.....
This is my (modern) genetic distance to other populations from its analysis.
https://i.postimg.cc/90Hw85JN/Tomorrow-Never-Dies.png
As well as....
https://i.postimg.cc/sDDgVgQ4/Joseph-Williams82.png
McHartman
01-05-2025, 10:51 PM
Assuming you got Illdna results, can you post your top 3-way Medieval Unsupervised model? Compare to my 23andMe result:
It's basically Irish-Bulgarian-Finnic.
Medieval Gael (Roscommon)
65.70%
Medieval Baltic Finn (Viking Age)
10.30%
Medieval South Slav (Ryahovets)
24.00%
My top 3-way model is...
Medieval Gael (Roscommon)
54.30%
Norse Viking (Zealand)
20.70%
Medieval Iberian (Rome)
25.00%
So... Irish/Spanish/Swedish I guess...
McHartman
01-06-2025, 09:36 PM
Those are G25 results or are results from IllustrativeDna and their new coordinates?
And these are my Gedmatch K13 results.
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.31
2 Baltic 22.69
3 West_Med 11.85
4 East_Med 6.56
5 West_Asian 5.94
6 Amerindian 0.64
7 South_Asian 0.59
8 Oceanian 0.42
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 2.81
2 Orcadian 4.15
3 North_Dutch 4.62
4 West_Scottish 4.64
5 Southwest_English 4.71
6 Irish 4.77
7 Danish 4.8
8 North_German 6.21
9 Norwegian 6.97
10 South_Dutch 7.09
11 West_German 7.87
12 Swedish 9.41
13 French 12.02
14 Austrian 14.2
15 East_German 15
16 North_Swedish 15.31
17 Hungarian 18.62
18 Spanish_Cataluna 19.01
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.29
20 Southwest_French 20.81
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