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ScandinavianCelt
01-09-2025, 02:14 PM
Using merged data on their standard Periodical-Medieval-Global setting: I get 52.6%:

https://i.postimg.cc/xCg8S6Dh/medieval-viking-index-illdna.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

What do you show for yours (and please share data set used-- Ancestry, 23andMe, MH, merged, etc).

Since I have much higher Insular Celt in the Iron Age (61.8%) than in Medieval (25.4%), I'm guessing my Vikings were largely Celtic, genetically, as it would seem about 36% of those Celts moved east, at least for me, both to Norway and Estonia.

Gannicus
01-09-2025, 03:34 PM
Fit: 1.043 (Good)
Insular Celt (AD 100–1000)
54.0%
France (AD 130–1400)
30.0%
Germanic (AD 700–1000)
10.6%
Italian (AD 650–1450)
5.4%

Breakdown:
Scandinavian Viking (Sealand) :
%10.0
Scandinavian Viking (Nordland) :
%0.6

Beowulf
01-09-2025, 03:49 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/1XWgscT1/Captura-de-pantalla-2025-01-09-174934.png (https://postimages.org/)

ScandinavianCelt
01-09-2025, 03:53 PM
This thread needs more Vikings!

~Elizabeth~
01-09-2025, 04:30 PM
I think this is either from my "MyHeritage" or my "AncestryDNA" data set. I don't remember which one.

https://i.postimg.cc/xjRLnRFf/Viking-percentages.png


My Viking total is 25.8%.



edit: MyHeritage.

ScandinavianCelt
01-09-2025, 04:34 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/1XWgscT1/Captura-de-pantalla-2025-01-09-174934.png (https://postimages.org/)

It's a good chunk. You must have gotten it from Grandpa with the Norwegian background? Have you isolated which Viking it is mostly? Some vikings plot quite southern in Europe for some reason, at least compared to the bulk average.

Beowulf
01-09-2025, 05:01 PM
It's a good chunk. You must have gotten it from Grandpa with the Norwegian background? Have you isolated which Viking it is mostly? Some vikings plot quite southern in Europe for some reason, at least compared to the bulk average.

All the viking samples that use IllustrativeDNA for Scandinavia plot in Northern Europe.

ScandinavianCelt
01-09-2025, 05:40 PM
All the viking samples that use IllustrativeDNA for Scandinavia plot in Northern Europe.

Cool. I didn't realize that. I just plotted them and you are right, they have a limited sample-base, all northern:

https://i.postimg.cc/8CMXcTWv/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2025-01-09-T133932-400.png (https://postimg.cc/NyGkPqdG)

Beowulf
01-09-2025, 05:47 PM
Cool. I didn't realize that. I just plotted them and you are right, they have a limited sample-base, all northern:

https://i.postimg.cc/8CMXcTWv/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2025-01-09-T133932-400.png (https://postimg.cc/NyGkPqdG)


I'm glad that they did that though! Imagine if they would have used southern european like samples on their Germanic category!

cass
01-09-2025, 05:55 PM
In my opinion, their model is bullshit. Results vary depending on the selected region and correlations are random.


E.Scandinavia Baltic
Scandinavian Viking (Funen) :
%22.8
Scandinavian Viking (Sealand) :
%13.8
Scandinavian Viking (Telemark) :
%7.6


NW Europe
Scandinavian Viking (Telemark) :
%40.6
Scandinavian Viking (Funen) :
%25.6
Scandinavian Viking (Sealand) :
%17.8
Scandinavian Viking (Nordland) :
%12.4

EE Slavic
Scandinavian Viking (Sealand) :
%22.6
Scandinavian Viking (Telemark) :
%7.0
Scandinavian Viking (Nordland) :
%4.8

Gannicus
01-09-2025, 06:19 PM
In my opinion, their model is bullshit. Results vary depending on the selected region and correlations are random.


E.Scandinavia Baltic
Scandinavian Viking (Funen) :
%22.8
Scandinavian Viking (Sealand) :
%13.8
Scandinavian Viking (Telemark) :
%7.6


NW Europe
Scandinavian Viking (Telemark) :
%40.6
Scandinavian Viking (Funen) :
%25.6
Scandinavian Viking (Sealand) :
%17.8
Scandinavian Viking (Nordland) :
%12.4

EE Slavic
Scandinavian Viking (Sealand) :
%22.6
Scandinavian Viking (Telemark) :
%7.0
Scandinavian Viking (Nordland) :
%4.8

Whether it's more accurate I have no idea. Overall, I don't care for the update. I think it needs more work and more samples. I have never cared for the sample selection for the bronze age.

Kenshiro
01-10-2025, 04:58 AM
136159
I don't have

Dušan
01-10-2025, 08:01 AM
I dont have, even in Global mode Middle Age.

https://i.imgur.com/T0fe9zl.png

Kostek
01-10-2025, 10:58 AM
Scandinavian Viking (Funen) :
%10.2
Scandinavian Viking (Saaremaa) :
%3.0

Fistora
01-10-2025, 11:28 AM
Scandinavian Viking (Sealand) :
%9.8
Scandinavian Viking (Oxford) :
%9.8

Gallop
01-10-2025, 12:52 PM
Illustrative dna

Germanic (AD 700–1000)
Scandinavian Viking (Saaremaa) : %7.0

Description
The period from the earliest recorded raids in the late 8th century CE until the Norman conquest of England in 1066 CE is commonly known as the Viking Age in the history of the Scandinavians. The Viking Age lasted until the mid-11th CE century, when the Christianization of Scandinavia was largely completed.



Ancient dna Hub

https://i.postimg.cc/3JF1JGvF/Results-For-TA.jpg

Nordic people (18.4%)

The history of the Nordic people, encompassing the inhabitants of Scandinavia, is a captivating saga of ancient roots, adaptation to challenging environments, and cultural developments that have left an indelible mark on the world.

The ancestors of the Nordic people can be traced back to the broader Indo-European migrations that occurred in prehistoric times. The Nordic region includes present-day Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, and the Faroe Islands. The languages spoken by the ancient Nordic people belonged to the North Germanic branch of the Germanic language group, which included Old Norse and its dialects.

Adaptation to the environment was a defining aspect of Nordic life. The region's diverse landscapes, including fjords, forests, and tundra, shaped the lifestyles of its inhabitants. Norse communities engaged in agriculture, fishing, and hunting, relying on a combination of these practices to sustain themselves in often challenging conditions.

The Nordic diet was influenced by the abundance of natural resources in the region. Fish, particularly cod and herring, played a central role in their diet, providing a reliable source of protein. Agriculture, though limited by the harsh climate, involved the cultivation of hardy crops such as barley and oats. Dairy products, including cheese and butter, were also staples of the Nordic diet.

Warfare was a recurrent theme in Nordic history, with both internal conflicts among different Norse tribes and external invasions shaping the narrative. The Vikings, seafaring warriors from the late eighth to early 11th century, were emblematic of Nordic military prowess. They waged wars of conquest, explored distant lands, and established trade routes across Europe and beyond.

Trade was a crucial aspect of Nordic society, and the Vikings were instrumental in connecting the Nordic region with other parts of Europe and the wider world. The Baltic Sea, North Sea, and rivers like the Volga served as vital trade routes, fostering economic exchanges and cultural interactions.

Technological advances among the Nordic people were notable, especially in shipbuilding. The longships, characterized by their shallow draft and versatility, allowed the Vikings to navigate both open seas and shallow rivers. This technological innovation facilitated their exploration, trade, and military campaigns.

The unique beliefs of the Nordic people are best encapsulated in Norse mythology. The pantheon of gods, including Odin, Thor, and Freyja, played a central role in their religious worldview. Norse cosmology was characterized by Yggdrasil, the World Tree, and belief in an afterlife, with Valhalla being a prominent hall for fallen warriors.

Nordic people derive this gene pool in full from the Vikings who lived in Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Iceland up to 1200 years ago. Carriers have diverse maternal haplogroups like A1, H1, H7, K1, J1, V, and T2. Today, this gene pool can still be found in all Viking countries and those invaded by the Vikings, like the UK and Estonia, where this gene pool can represent up to 20% of the gene pools of modern residents. Common mtDNA haplogroups might include H, U, and J, representing the maternal heritage, while Y chromosomal haplogroups such as I1 and R1a are prevalent among Nordic males.



In principle, I have more confidence in Ancient dna Hub than Illustrativedna. :p


The G25 is more for fun and a slight hint. hehehe :p:p

tk'es
01-10-2025, 05:40 PM
only in global



https://i.ibb.co/K7xb3YV/global.png