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ScandinavianCelt

01-12-2025, 08:10 PM

In case you want to use these or check your distances to Swedes in Jamtland, also called Norrland in some calcs:

Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes005,0.127482,0.129988,0.0667 5,0.050065,0.034776,0.024263,0.00752,0.003231,0.00 8181,-0.007654,0.002436,0.000899,-0.006095,-0.001514,0.022937,0.002519,-0.02047,0.001014,0.007416,-0.005127,0.011854,0.002349,-0.000493,0.010363,-0.008263
Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004,0.126344,0.128972,0.0659 96,0.045543,0.040315,0.016455,0.00047,0.004154,0.0 01023,-0.007107,-0.004872,0.01109,-0.01219,-0.013212,0.019272,0.004906,0.002347,-0.000507,0.006913,0.009004,0.000125,-0.000371,-0.006532,0.006025,0.000479
Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes007,0.130897,0.123895,0.0765 55,0.064277,0.041238,0.017012,0.00799,0.002769,0.0 05727,-0.003462,-0.007307,0.010341,-0.011744,-0.013349,0.025244,-0.001724,-0.019949,0.004054,0.000126,-0.00025,0.007112,0.005317,-0.007518,0.005663,0.000239
Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes008,0.1161,0.137096,0.07203, 0.046189,0.037853,0.015618,0.0047,0.001615,0.01268 ,0.003098,-0.008769,0.004796,-0.017542,-0.011836,0.023072,0.004773,0,0.006588,-0.002263,0.008504,0.001872,-0.003957,0.005669,-0.000843,-0.001197
Sweden_Jamtland_VA:wes056,0.135449,0.111708,0.0746 7,0.067507,0.033545,0.025379,0.005405,0.008538,0.0 0225,-0.014397,-0.002761,-0.001349,-0.003568,-0.006744,0.018729,-0.001061,-0.001565,-0.000633,-0.000628,0.01013,0.015972,0.005441,-0.001479,0.010965,-0.007664
Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003,0.127482,0.126941,0.0614 71,0.052326,0.037545,0.014781,0.003055,0.005077,0. 001636,0.006378,-0.005684,0.002847,-0.015609,-0.005367,0.017915,0.005967,-0.001304,-0.00228,0.002263,0.003377,0.015223,0.004575,-0.001356,0.017472,-0.003113
Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes001,0.124067,0.11577,0.06524 2,0.05814,0.039084,0.013387,0.00141,0.001846,0.008 999,-0.003462,-0.007632,0.002248,-0.006244,-0.023533,0.010993,0.012331,0.008345,0.0019,0.00892 5,0.016508,0.011729,0.004946,-0.003821,0.001928,-0.003832
Sweden_Jamtland_Late_VA:frc007,0.132035,0.123895,0 .064488,0.057494,0.046162,0.028447,0.009165,0.0103 84,0.006545,-0.002551,-0.00341,-0.003447,-0.003122,-0.01156,0.026737,0.009149,-0.004042,0.002914,0.00264,0.013632,0.001123,0.0095 21,-0.000986,0.010483,-0.003952

I'm closer to one of these than any other Modern Pop Ave Scaled sample.

Distance to: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.02371654 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
0.02392157 Danish
0.02395960 Dutch
0.02495352 Norwegian
0.02628904 Scottish
0.02663552 Afrikaner
0.02668656 Orcadian
0.02706109 Irish
0.02717041 German_Hamburg
0.02732863 Icelandic

If added to all the official modern pop ave, my 2x:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.1158% / 0.02115836 | ADC: 2x RC
46.8 Sweden_Jamtland_MA
35.4 Danish
17.8 Dutch

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 1.5413% / 0.01541309 | ADC: 0.5x RC
48.4 Sweden_Jamtland_MA
25.2 Danish
11.0 Shetlandic
9.8 Moldovan_o
4.2 Pashtun_Pakistan_Bettani
1.4 Akhvakh

How I plot to them on the Custom PCA:

https://i.postimg.cc/G2TfKVpk/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2025-01-12-T160134-738.png (https://postimg.cc/WFjSb9g3)

Are you linking to Jamtland also?

https://i.postimg.cc/52dfzcxW/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2025-01-12-T160938-551.png (https://postimg.cc/56gccRYs)

I'm finding out the males were Irish there in Y-DNA, not what I would have thought.

Beowulf

01-12-2025, 08:13 PM

<tbody>
Distance to:
Beowulf_Scaled

0.03013208
Spanish

0.06147009
Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes008

0.06297037
Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003

0.06437118
Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004

0.07515595
Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes005

0.07680291
Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes001

0.07840570
Sweden_Jamtland_Late_VA:frc007

0.08487673
Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes007

0.09429996
Sweden_Jamtland_VA:wes056

</tbody>

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0204% / 0.02038205
72.5 Spanish
27.5 Sweden_Jamtland_MA

Xavier727

01-12-2025, 09:01 PM

Gannicus

01-12-2025, 09:29 PM

Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.03187825 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
0.03315972 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.04060890 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes008
0.04648842 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes005
0.04649895 Sweden_Jamtland_Late_VA:frc007
0.04687958 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes001
0.04942224 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes007
0.06150291 Sweden_Jamtland_VA:wes056

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0287% / 0.02869606
52.7 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
39.7 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
7.6 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes008

Results when I add an Iron Age Briton:

Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.02362047 England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.03187825 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
0.03315972 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.04060890 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes008
0.04648842 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes005
0.04649895 Sweden_Jamtland_Late_VA:frc007
0.04687958 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes001
0.04942224 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes007
0.06150291 Sweden_Jamtland_VA:wes056
0.08280749 Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_Etruscan:TAQ004

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0211% / 0.02113088 | ADC: 0.5x RC
65.5 England_MIA_LIA
34.5 Sweden_Jamtland_MA

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0204% / 0.02041752
53.6 England_MIA_LIA
39.5 Sweden_Jamtland_MA
6.9 Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_Etruscan

Vs modern averages:

Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.02107671 French_Brittany
0.02231813 Welsh
0.02362047 England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.02363819 English_Cornwall
0.02388485 English
0.02540899 Dutch
0.02570242 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02572294 Scottish
0.02579153 BelgianB
0.02634488 Irish
0.02720284 Orcadian
0.02837471 BelgianA
0.02881516 French_Paris
0.02886213 French_Nord
0.02934995 BelgianC
0.03121324 Afrikaner
0.03129516 Shetlandic
0.03187825 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
0.03191983 German
0.03276194 Danish
0.03315972 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.03341765 French_Alsace
0.03389934 Norwegian
0.03449523 Icelandic
0.03516482 Swiss_German

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0186% / 0.01855423 | ADC: 0.5x RC
33.8 Irish
23.6 French_Pas-de-Calais
21.3 French_Paris
11.0 Sweden_Jamtland_MA
10.3 England_MIA_LIA

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0170% / 0.01704873 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.5 Irish
16.6 Sweden_Jamtland_MA
10.1 Spanish_Navarra
9.3 Spanish_Soria
2.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
1.9 Saudi
0.6 English_Cornwall

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0171% / 0.01705184 | R4P
46.9 Irish
27.4 Icelandic
22.7 Spanish_Soria
3.0 Saudi

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0170% / 0.01700262 | R5P
47.7 Irish
21.8 Spanish_Soria
21.4 Icelandic
6.2 Sweden_Jamtland_MA
2.9 Saudi

ScandinavianCelt

01-12-2025, 09:47 PM

Target: scaled
Distance: 1.7894% / 0.01789444
84.6 Sweden_Jamtland_MA
15.4 Sweden_Jamtland_Late_VA

136336, closest sample in red

2 WAY for closest sample

94% Norwegian + 6% Georgian_Megr
94% Norwegian + 6% Ossetian
94% Danish + 6% Abazin
94% Norwegian + 6% Georgian_Ajar
94% Norwegian + 6% Abkhasian

Try the Jamtland + these below:

Denmark_EarlyViking.SG,0.1271025,0.1310033,0.06920 17,0.053941,0.0428285,0.0183602,0.0035643,0.006576 5,0.0068855,-0.0044342,-0.0023277,0.003297,-0.0092912,-0.0079135,0.022394,0.0122205,-0.0036942,0.0031248,0.0029748,0.0052942,0.00705,0. 0053997,-4.12E-05,0.0096398,0.0024547
Denmark_Viking.SG,0.1289272,0.1339854,0.0633443,0. 0486192,0.0407694,0.0173267,0.0031334,0.0063111,0. 0045482,-0.0005062,-0.0042014,0.004113,-0.007879,-0.00514,0.0155087,0.0060213,-0.0038618,0.0024956,0.0038069,0.0041309,0.0049416, 0.0026673,-0.0006436,0.0101218,-0.0007547
England_Viking.SG,0.1253367,0.1283865,0.0664457,0. 0521893,0.0403506,0.0195223,0.0036877,0.0078635,0. 0028239,-0.0013177,-0.0051402,0.0039772,-0.0103661,-0.010237,0.0197264,0.0106887,-0.003751,0.0005019,0.0030845,0.0057624,0.0043577,0 .0043943,0.0009149,0.0114195,0.0004145
Estonia_EarlyViking.SG,0.1313372,0.1282516,0.07536 34,0.0652356,0.0457057,0.0230669,0.0074898,0.01057 03,0.0048295,-0.0095703,-0.0039602,0.0001741,-0.0022731,-0.0012875,0.0174553,0.0059708,-0.0080124,0.0017328,0.0034182,0.0060916,0.0088553, 0.0020821,0.0001471,0.0113267,0.0015722
Faroes_Viking.SG,0.124067,0.139128,0.065242,0.0649 23,0.030775,0.025379,0.00235,0.001615,-0.001227,0.002187,-0.013803,0.003597,-0.012636,-0.014313,0.005429,0.02201,0.027902,0.008235,0.0108 1,0.002876,0.008485,0.005935,-0.005669,0.010965,0.011616
Iceland_Viking.SG,0.1289703,0.1270194,0.0679977,0. 0538416,0.0366695,0.0197798,0.0026212,0.0066742,0. 0063874,-0.0014859,-0.0022109,0.0033777,-0.0081078,-0.0129576,0.020452,0.0110763,-0.0058474,0.0022609,0.0019725,0.0056855,0.0065557, 0.0023972,-0.0009576,0.0123279,-0.0011144
Ireland_Viking.SG,0.125964,0.1343883,0.067379,0.05 69557,0.040828,0.0213817,0.0046217,0.004077,0.0020 45,-0.002126,-0.0031937,0.008992,-0.0115457,-0.0146797,0.0201317,0.015999,0.0027813,0.001098,0. 0080867,0.0065863,0.0046583,-0.0002883,0.0028347,0.0107643,-0.000439
IsleOfMan_Viking.SG,0.126344,0.117801,0.072784,0.0 65246,0.0397,0.0251,-0.003525,0.007615,0.013499,-0.00328,-0.007957,0.004346,-0.00996,-0.006744,0.022394,0.01127,0.000913,-0.002154,0.002388,0.016508,0.006988,-0.000866,-0.004067,0.004338,0.000359
Norway_Viking_o1.SG,0.10927,-0.079211,0.118416,0.081396,-0.035391,-0.003347,-0.00517,0.013384,-0.000818,-0.031162,0.030204,-0.015586,0.021407,-0.035507,-0.009772,0.003978,-0.014864,0.006334,-0.01257,-0.014257,0.012603,-0.00371,0.002342,0.001807,0.000599
Norway_Viking_o2.SG,0.118376,0.036559,0.09692,0.06 9768,-0.007386,0.023148,0.012926,0.020768,-0.008385,-0.025331,0.016076,-0.001199,0.009812,0.001927,-0.008279,0.011138,0.009909,-0.010642,-0.004651,-0.007629,0.009858,-0.004451,-0.014297,0.009399,-0.008023
Norway_Viking.SG,0.1297145,0.1250663,0.070246,0.05 95314,0.0414868,0.0226546,0.0047091,0.0077482,0.00 22654,-0.003799,-0.0027543,0.0046631,-0.0087081,-0.0103164,0.0203946,0.0107551,-0.002367,0.0022998,0.0040078,0.0079749,0.0065797,0 .0041946,0.000313,0.0129302,0.0012113
Poland_Viking.SG,0.1283922,0.1301908,0.0802514,0.0 69768,0.0467162,0.026104,0.0073322,0.009692,0.0028 634,-0.0218318,-0.0025008,-0.0045558,0.0140336,0.0232858,-0.0050488,-0.001803,-0.0011996,-0.0007854,0.007944,0.0010004,0.0007736,0.0001976,0 .0059158,-0.0018074,0.0018922
Russia_Viking.SG,0.1240672,0.1213051,0.0710118,0.0 585114,0.0395612,0.0202893,0.0047236,0.0094034,0.0 045404,-0.0111893,-0.0028336,-0.0008393,0.0003121,0.0016929,0.007519,0.0092482,0 .002223,0.0007284,0.0043114,0.0023073,0.0038931,-4.32E-05,-0.0019843,0.0090857,0.0006526
Scotland_Viking.SG,0.130043,0.138112,0.063262,0.05 15992,0.039469,0.0188948,0.0029375,0.0064035,0.003 477,0.0023235,-0.00816,0.007943,-0.015535,-0.015104,0.0282298,-0.0001325,-0.0139185,0.003769,0.0024198,0.0017508,0.0014975,0 .0061828,-0.0033892,0.0147308,0.001856
Sweden_Viking.SG,0.1276228,0.1302296,0.069972,0.05 78601,0.0414289,0.0210815,0.0058282,0.008826,0.004 2326,-0.0079316,-0.003305,0.0001885,-0.0018915,0.0009949,0.0097473,0.0043906,-0.0038022,0.0014418,0.0025091,0.0036457,0.0034143, 0.0022682,0.0019392,0.0063152,2.51E-05
Ukraine_Viking.SG,0.127482,0.114755,0.084098,0.069 122,0.041546,0.020638,0.00658,0.010846,-0.000818,-0.012757,0.005684,0.002098,0.002676,0.000413,0.007 465,-0.005569,-0.025295,0.006081,0.004148,0.001876,0.005615,-0.004822,0.006162,0.005663,0.001796

Only Denmark_Viking is closer to me than Jamtland:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 0.0207% / 0.02065401 | ADC: 2x RC
57.3 Denmark_Viking.SG
42.7 Sweden_Jamtland_MA

Distance to: SC_Official_Ancestry#2_Scaled
0.01884967 Denmark_Viking.SG
0.02012248 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
0.02018103 Iceland_Viking.SG
0.02090463 England_Viking.SG
0.02443430 Denmark_EarlyViking.SG
0.02571220 Norway_Viking.SG
0.02696448 Ireland_Viking.SG
0.02758705 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.02890537 Scotland_Viking.SG
0.02893523 Sweden_Viking.SG

Distance to: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.02241130 Denmark_Viking.SG
0.02371654 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
0.02451634 Iceland_Viking.SG
0.02506154 England_Viking.SG
0.02846415 Denmark_EarlyViking.SG
0.02868942 Norway_Viking.SG
0.02977790 Sweden_Viking.SG
0.03047598 Ireland_Viking.SG
0.03127979 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.03315427 Russia_Viking.SG

Using just Ancestry data:

Target: SC_Official_Ancestry#2_Scaled
Distance: 0.0166% / 0.01658409 | ADC: 2x RC
56.0 Denmark_Viking.SG
44.0 Sweden_Jamtland_MA

Target: SC_Official_Ancestry#2_Scaled
Distance: 0.0150% / 0.01496614
47.8 Sweden_Jamtland_MA
36.6 Denmark_Viking.SG
8.9 Scotland_Viking.SG
4.4 Faroes_Viking.SG
2.3 Norway_Viking_o1.SG

ScandinavianCelt

01-12-2025, 10:07 PM

IllustrativeDNA gives me Jamtland #7 overall Ancient closest distance (using merged data file):

https://i.postimg.cc/3wMxPfyf/jamtland-7th-illdna-ancient.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

ScandinavianCelt

01-12-2025, 10:09 PM

blurb from illdna:

The large magnate’s farm Västerhus was located on the island Frösön, Jämtland, in northwest Sweden. The lord and his family at Västerhus are believed to have served as representatives of the king and to have had a fiscal role in the region. In association with the farm was a churchyard, which was completely excavated in 1947–1952. The churchyard has been dated from the 11th to the 14th century. In the churchyard, women were buried to the north of the church and men to the south, and a hierarchical social order of the buried has been assumed to reflect contemporary Norwegian laws.Jämtland was conquered by Norway in 1178 and stayed Norwegian for over 450 years until it was ceded to Sweden in 1645.

Genetically Closest Populations (to Jamtland)

distance
Modern Population
1.483 Norwegian
1.599 Icelander
1.613 Danish
1.748 Orcadian
1.796 Swedish
1.975 Irish
2.123 Scottish
2.146 Dutch
2.274 Welsh
2.301 Breton

Xavier727

01-12-2025, 10:11 PM

Distance to: scaled
0.02101014 Iceland_Viking.SG
0.02102935 England_Viking.SG
0.02305434 Denmark_Viking.SG
0.02342062 Denmark_EarlyViking.SG
0.02360951 Ireland_Viking.SG
0.02443463 Norway_Viking.SG
0.03279129 Sweden_Viking.SG
0.03353027 Russia_Viking.SG

Target: scaled
Distance: 1.8659% / 0.01865913
42.6 Iceland_Viking.SG
32.0 Denmark_Viking.SG
14.6 Faroes_Viking.SG
9.6 Ireland_Viking.SG
1.2 Norway_Viking_o1.SG

Target: scaled
Distance: 1.8776% / 0.01877612 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.0 Iceland_Viking.SG
23.2 Denmark_Viking.SG
15.8 Faroes_Viking.SG
1.4 Ireland_Viking.SG
0.6 England_Viking.SG

Target: scaled
Distance: 1.8776% / 0.01877612 | ADC: 0.5x RC
59.0 Iceland_Viking.SG
23.2 Denmark_Viking.SG
15.8 Faroes_Viking.SG
1.4 Ireland_Viking.SG
0.6 England_Viking.SG

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.0444% / 0.02044423 | ADC: 2x RC
50.4 Iceland_Viking.SG
49.6 England_Viking.SG

Xavier727

01-12-2025, 10:39 PM

IllustrativeDNA gives me Jamtland #7 overall Ancient closest distance (using merged data file):

https://i.postimg.cc/3wMxPfyf/jamtland-7th-illdna-ancient.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

For my previous results Jamtland was actually my closest ancient sample but these new ones have Jamtland as my 6th closest, which I thought was little weird, didn’t expect to see quite that much change.

136337

Gannicus

01-12-2025, 10:53 PM

My top 30 closest ancient populations on IllustrativeDNA:

136343136344136345136346

The Medieval Jamt sample I think is #25 out of 30 for me.

unmoggable

01-12-2025, 10:55 PM

ScandinavianCelt

01-12-2025, 11:00 PM

My top 30 closest ancient populations on IllustrativeDNA:

136343136344136345136346

The Medieval Jamt sample I think is #25 out of 30 for me.

We match some groups for sure. Which state do you live in?

ScandinavianCelt

01-12-2025, 11:04 PM

unmoggable

01-12-2025, 11:08 PM

looks like we share that wes003 distance.

which company's raw data did you use?

ancestry

ScandinavianCelt

01-12-2025, 11:11 PM

Distance to: unmoggable
0.02348880 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
0.02490344 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.03315142 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes008
0.03346929 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes005
0.03605581 Sweden_Jamtland_Late_VA:frc007
0.04277139 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes007
0.04470779 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes001
0.04994906 Sweden_Jamtland_VA:wes056

ancestry

my ancestry:

Distance to: SC_Official_Ancestry#2_Scaled
0.02012248 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
0.02758705 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.03181384 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes008
0.03394530 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes005
0.03580102 Sweden_Jamtland_Late_VA:frc007
0.03766251 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes001
0.03904454 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes007
0.04071554 Sweden_Jamtland_VA:wes056

almost identical ordering too

RyoHazuki

01-13-2025, 12:33 AM

Not very close to any of them

Distance to: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
0.02929514 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes008
0.03156937 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.03214983 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
0.03619613 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes005
0.04196290 Sweden_Jamtland_Late_VA:frc007
0.04295080 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes007
0.04953070 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes001
0.05793945 Sweden_Jamtland_VA:wes056

Distance to: Ryo_scaled
0.03355465 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes005
0.04330540 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes007
0.04351030 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
0.04623203 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.04629426 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes008
0.05212614 Sweden_Jamtland_Late_VA:frc007
0.06248577 Sweden_Jamtland_VA:wes056
0.06272659 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes001

Gannicus

01-13-2025, 02:03 AM

We match some groups for sure. Which state do you live in?

Illinois

Gannicus

01-13-2025, 02:17 AM

Try the Jamtland + these below:

Denmark_EarlyViking.SG,0.1271025,0.1310033,0.06920 17,0.053941,0.0428285,0.0183602,0.0035643,0.006576 5,0.0068855,-0.0044342,-0.0023277,0.003297,-0.0092912,-0.0079135,0.022394,0.0122205,-0.0036942,0.0031248,0.0029748,0.0052942,0.00705,0. 0053997,-4.12E-05,0.0096398,0.0024547
Denmark_Viking.SG,0.1289272,0.1339854,0.0633443,0. 0486192,0.0407694,0.0173267,0.0031334,0.0063111,0. 0045482,-0.0005062,-0.0042014,0.004113,-0.007879,-0.00514,0.0155087,0.0060213,-0.0038618,0.0024956,0.0038069,0.0041309,0.0049416, 0.0026673,-0.0006436,0.0101218,-0.0007547
England_Viking.SG,0.1253367,0.1283865,0.0664457,0. 0521893,0.0403506,0.0195223,0.0036877,0.0078635,0. 0028239,-0.0013177,-0.0051402,0.0039772,-0.0103661,-0.010237,0.0197264,0.0106887,-0.003751,0.0005019,0.0030845,0.0057624,0.0043577,0 .0043943,0.0009149,0.0114195,0.0004145
Estonia_EarlyViking.SG,0.1313372,0.1282516,0.07536 34,0.0652356,0.0457057,0.0230669,0.0074898,0.01057 03,0.0048295,-0.0095703,-0.0039602,0.0001741,-0.0022731,-0.0012875,0.0174553,0.0059708,-0.0080124,0.0017328,0.0034182,0.0060916,0.0088553, 0.0020821,0.0001471,0.0113267,0.0015722
Faroes_Viking.SG,0.124067,0.139128,0.065242,0.0649 23,0.030775,0.025379,0.00235,0.001615,-0.001227,0.002187,-0.013803,0.003597,-0.012636,-0.014313,0.005429,0.02201,0.027902,0.008235,0.0108 1,0.002876,0.008485,0.005935,-0.005669,0.010965,0.011616
Iceland_Viking.SG,0.1289703,0.1270194,0.0679977,0. 0538416,0.0366695,0.0197798,0.0026212,0.0066742,0. 0063874,-0.0014859,-0.0022109,0.0033777,-0.0081078,-0.0129576,0.020452,0.0110763,-0.0058474,0.0022609,0.0019725,0.0056855,0.0065557, 0.0023972,-0.0009576,0.0123279,-0.0011144
Ireland_Viking.SG,0.125964,0.1343883,0.067379,0.05 69557,0.040828,0.0213817,0.0046217,0.004077,0.0020 45,-0.002126,-0.0031937,0.008992,-0.0115457,-0.0146797,0.0201317,0.015999,0.0027813,0.001098,0. 0080867,0.0065863,0.0046583,-0.0002883,0.0028347,0.0107643,-0.000439
IsleOfMan_Viking.SG,0.126344,0.117801,0.072784,0.0 65246,0.0397,0.0251,-0.003525,0.007615,0.013499,-0.00328,-0.007957,0.004346,-0.00996,-0.006744,0.022394,0.01127,0.000913,-0.002154,0.002388,0.016508,0.006988,-0.000866,-0.004067,0.004338,0.000359
Norway_Viking_o1.SG,0.10927,-0.079211,0.118416,0.081396,-0.035391,-0.003347,-0.00517,0.013384,-0.000818,-0.031162,0.030204,-0.015586,0.021407,-0.035507,-0.009772,0.003978,-0.014864,0.006334,-0.01257,-0.014257,0.012603,-0.00371,0.002342,0.001807,0.000599
Norway_Viking_o2.SG,0.118376,0.036559,0.09692,0.06 9768,-0.007386,0.023148,0.012926,0.020768,-0.008385,-0.025331,0.016076,-0.001199,0.009812,0.001927,-0.008279,0.011138,0.009909,-0.010642,-0.004651,-0.007629,0.009858,-0.004451,-0.014297,0.009399,-0.008023
Norway_Viking.SG,0.1297145,0.1250663,0.070246,0.05 95314,0.0414868,0.0226546,0.0047091,0.0077482,0.00 22654,-0.003799,-0.0027543,0.0046631,-0.0087081,-0.0103164,0.0203946,0.0107551,-0.002367,0.0022998,0.0040078,0.0079749,0.0065797,0 .0041946,0.000313,0.0129302,0.0012113
Poland_Viking.SG,0.1283922,0.1301908,0.0802514,0.0 69768,0.0467162,0.026104,0.0073322,0.009692,0.0028 634,-0.0218318,-0.0025008,-0.0045558,0.0140336,0.0232858,-0.0050488,-0.001803,-0.0011996,-0.0007854,0.007944,0.0010004,0.0007736,0.0001976,0 .0059158,-0.0018074,0.0018922
Russia_Viking.SG,0.1240672,0.1213051,0.0710118,0.0 585114,0.0395612,0.0202893,0.0047236,0.0094034,0.0 045404,-0.0111893,-0.0028336,-0.0008393,0.0003121,0.0016929,0.007519,0.0092482,0 .002223,0.0007284,0.0043114,0.0023073,0.0038931,-4.32E-05,-0.0019843,0.0090857,0.0006526
Scotland_Viking.SG,0.130043,0.138112,0.063262,0.05 15992,0.039469,0.0188948,0.0029375,0.0064035,0.003 477,0.0023235,-0.00816,0.007943,-0.015535,-0.015104,0.0282298,-0.0001325,-0.0139185,0.003769,0.0024198,0.0017508,0.0014975,0 .0061828,-0.0033892,0.0147308,0.001856
Sweden_Viking.SG,0.1276228,0.1302296,0.069972,0.05 78601,0.0414289,0.0210815,0.0058282,0.008826,0.004 2326,-0.0079316,-0.003305,0.0001885,-0.0018915,0.0009949,0.0097473,0.0043906,-0.0038022,0.0014418,0.0025091,0.0036457,0.0034143, 0.0022682,0.0019392,0.0063152,2.51E-05
Ukraine_Viking.SG,0.127482,0.114755,0.084098,0.069 122,0.041546,0.020638,0.00658,0.010846,-0.000818,-0.012757,0.005684,0.002098,0.002676,0.000413,0.007 465,-0.005569,-0.025295,0.006081,0.004148,0.001876,0.005615,-0.004822,0.006162,0.005663,0.001796

Only Denmark_Viking is closer to me than Jamtland:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 0.0207% / 0.02065401 | ADC: 2x RC
57.3 Denmark_Viking.SG
42.7 Sweden_Jamtland_MA

Distance to: SC_Official_Ancestry#2_Scaled
0.01884967 Denmark_Viking.SG
0.02012248 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
0.02018103 Iceland_Viking.SG
0.02090463 England_Viking.SG
0.02443430 Denmark_EarlyViking.SG
0.02571220 Norway_Viking.SG
0.02696448 Ireland_Viking.SG
0.02758705 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.02890537 Scotland_Viking.SG
0.02893523 Sweden_Viking.SG

Distance to: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.02241130 Denmark_Viking.SG
0.02371654 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
0.02451634 Iceland_Viking.SG
0.02506154 England_Viking.SG
0.02846415 Denmark_EarlyViking.SG
0.02868942 Norway_Viking.SG
0.02977790 Sweden_Viking.SG
0.03047598 Ireland_Viking.SG
0.03127979 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.03315427 Russia_Viking.SG

Using just Ancestry data:

Target: SC_Official_Ancestry#2_Scaled
Distance: 0.0166% / 0.01658409 | ADC: 2x RC
56.0 Denmark_Viking.SG
44.0 Sweden_Jamtland_MA

Target: SC_Official_Ancestry#2_Scaled
Distance: 0.0150% / 0.01496614
47.8 Sweden_Jamtland_MA
36.6 Denmark_Viking.SG
8.9 Scotland_Viking.SG
4.4 Faroes_Viking.SG
2.3 Norway_Viking_o1.SG

Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.03031724 Denmark_Viking.SG
0.03036604 Scotland_Viking.SG
0.03187825 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
0.03247085 England_Viking.SG
0.03315972 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.03319618 Iceland_Viking.SG
0.03499788 Denmark_EarlyViking.SG
0.03592126 Ireland_Viking.SG
0.04039459 Norway_Viking.SG
0.04060890 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes008
0.04648842 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes005
0.04649895 Sweden_Jamtland_Late_VA:frc007
0.04687958 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes001
0.04827008 Sweden_Viking.SG
0.04942224 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes007
0.05126392 IsleOfMan_Viking.SG
0.05206276 Estonia_EarlyViking.SG
0.05317400 Russia_Viking.SG
0.05726342 Faroes_Viking.SG
0.06150291 Sweden_Jamtland_VA:wes056
0.07338833 Ukraine_Viking.SG
0.08584361 Poland_Viking.SG
0.14553033 Norway_Viking_o2.SG
0.25896732 Norway_Viking_o1.SG

The bottom two are definitely outliers especially since they the "_o" label.

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0266% / 0.02661829
43.2 Scotland_Viking.SG
32.5 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
23.8 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.5 Faroes_Viking.SG

The Scotland Viking looks genetically like a native Briton maybe with Norse great grandpa:

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculator/134/g25-calculatrice-britannique-par-drb234.htm

Target: Scotland_Viking.SG
Distance: 0.7271% / 0.00727127
87.0 Celtic
13.0 Germanic

Idk there are some EIA and MIA Celtic Britons that score higher Germanic with that list than this Scotland Viking

Target: England_IA:I12772
Distance: 0.9073% / 0.00907293
57.0 Celtic
43.0 Germanic

Target: England_EIA:I17260
Distance: 1.5756% / 0.01575592
91.4 Celtic
5.6 Baltic
3.0 Germanic

Target: England_EIA:I17259
Distance: 0.6547% / 0.00654672
83.0 Celtic
17.0 Germanic

Target: England_MIA:I12771
Distance: 1.2154% / 0.01215431
72.6 Celtic
27.4 Germanic

ScandinavianCelt

01-13-2025, 02:27 AM

Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.03031724 Denmark_Viking.SG
0.03036604 Scotland_Viking.SG
0.03187825 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
0.03247085 England_Viking.SG
0.03315972 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.03319618 Iceland_Viking.SG
0.03499788 Denmark_EarlyViking.SG
0.03592126 Ireland_Viking.SG
0.04039459 Norway_Viking.SG
0.04060890 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes008
0.04648842 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes005
0.04649895 Sweden_Jamtland_Late_VA:frc007
0.04687958 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes001
0.04827008 Sweden_Viking.SG
0.04942224 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes007
0.05126392 IsleOfMan_Viking.SG
0.05206276 Estonia_EarlyViking.SG
0.05317400 Russia_Viking.SG
0.05726342 Faroes_Viking.SG
0.06150291 Sweden_Jamtland_VA:wes056
0.07338833 Ukraine_Viking.SG
0.08584361 Poland_Viking.SG
0.14553033 Norway_Viking_o2.SG
0.25896732 Norway_Viking_o1.SG

The bottom two are definitely outliers especially since they the "_o" label.

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0266% / 0.02661829
43.2 Scotland_Viking.SG
32.5 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes003
23.8 Sweden_Jamtland_MA:wes004
0.5 Faroes_Viking.SG

The Scotland Viking looks genetically like a native Briton maybe with Norse great grandpa:

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculator/134/g25-calculatrice-britannique-par-drb234.htm

Target: Scotland_Viking.SG
Distance: 0.7271% / 0.00727127
87.0 Celtic
13.0 Germanic

Idk there are some EIA and MIA Celtic Britons that score higher Germanic with that list than this Scotland Viking

Target: England_IA:I12772
Distance: 0.9073% / 0.00907293
57.0 Celtic
43.0 Germanic

Target: England_EIA:I17260
Distance: 1.5756% / 0.01575592
91.4 Celtic
5.6 Baltic
3.0 Germanic

Target: England_EIA:I17259
Distance: 0.6547% / 0.00654672
83.0 Celtic
17.0 Germanic

Target: England_MIA:I12771
Distance: 1.2154% / 0.01215431
72.6 Celtic
27.4 Germanic

Thanks for sharing.
What do you score on the link you posted?

My data sets show different results:

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ancestry_Scaled
Distance: 1.1666% / 0.01166601
52.4 Celtic
47.6 Germanic

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 2.0732% / 0.02073212
50.0 Germanic
44.2 Celtic
5.8 Baltic

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Official Averaged: (look at the progression-- you would not think it would end up 100% Celtic)

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 2.5700% / 0.02570044 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Celtic

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 1.7574% / 0.01757367 | ADC: 1x RC
72.4 Germanic
27.6 Celtic

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 1.7126% / 0.01712590 | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.4 Germanic
35.6 Celtic

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 1.5804% / 0.01580372 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.6 Germanic
45.4 Celtic

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 1.5725% / 0.01572469
52.6 Germanic
46.4 Celtic
1.0 Baltic

Gannicus

01-13-2025, 10:34 PM

Thanks for sharing.
What do you score on the link you posted?

My data sets show different results:

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ancestry_Scaled
Distance: 1.1666% / 0.01166601
52.4 Celtic
47.6 Germanic

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 2.0732% / 0.02073212
50.0 Germanic
44.2 Celtic
5.8 Baltic

--------------

Official Averaged: (look at the progression-- you would not think it would end up 100% Celtic)

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 2.5700% / 0.02570044 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Celtic

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 1.7574% / 0.01757367 | ADC: 1x RC
72.4 Germanic
27.6 Celtic

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 1.7126% / 0.01712590 | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.4 Germanic
35.6 Celtic

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 1.5804% / 0.01580372 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.6 Germanic
45.4 Celtic

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 1.5725% / 0.01572469
52.6 Germanic
46.4 Celtic
1.0 Baltic

From the list on Exploreyourdna.com I score:

Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.02383915 Celtic:England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA
0.02467444 Celtic:England_EastYorkshire_LIA
0.02673110 Celtic:England_Roman
0.02998845 Celtic:England_Roman:6DT18
0.03079106 Celtic:England_IA:I16450
0.03120807 Celtic:England_MBA:I2458
0.03168170 Celtic:England_IA:I16457
0.03190570 Celtic:England_Roman:6DT22
0.03235180 Celtic:England_IA:I16441
0.03621414 Celtic:Scotland_LIA:I27384
0.03644896 Celtic:England_IA:I0160
0.03649597 Celtic:England_IA:I16388
0.03727863 Celtic:England_MBA:I3082
0.03828615 Celtic:Scotland_LIA:I3566
0.03839805 Celtic:England_Roman:6DT23
0.03866483 Celtic:England_Dorset
0.03871949 Celtic:England_Roman:3DT16
0.03898975 Celtic:England_MBA:I7627
0.03934071 Celtic:England_Roman:6DT21
0.03960397 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.03967423 Celtic:England_CA_EBA:I6680
0.03997863 Celtic:Scotland_LIA:I3568
0.04086213 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.04103028 Celtic:Scotland_MIA
0.04229461 Celtic:Wales_LBA

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 2.1081% / 0.02108097 | ADC: 1x RC
100.0 Celtic

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 1.5718% / 0.01571779 | ADC: 0.5x RC
79.2 Celtic
20.8 Germanic

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 1.1633% / 0.01163269 | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.8 Celtic
22.2 Germanic

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 1.1303% / 0.01130299
73.8 Celtic
26.2 Germanic

ScandinavianCelt

01-13-2025, 10:44 PM

From the list on Exploreyourdna.com I score:

Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.02383915 Celtic:England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA
0.02467444 Celtic:England_EastYorkshire_LIA
0.02673110 Celtic:England_Roman
0.02998845 Celtic:England_Roman:6DT18
0.03079106 Celtic:England_IA:I16450
0.03120807 Celtic:England_MBA:I2458
0.03168170 Celtic:England_IA:I16457
0.03190570 Celtic:England_Roman:6DT22
0.03235180 Celtic:England_IA:I16441
0.03621414 Celtic:Scotland_LIA:I27384
0.03644896 Celtic:England_IA:I0160
0.03649597 Celtic:England_IA:I16388
0.03727863 Celtic:England_MBA:I3082
0.03828615 Celtic:Scotland_LIA:I3566
0.03839805 Celtic:England_Roman:6DT23
0.03866483 Celtic:England_Dorset
0.03871949 Celtic:England_Roman:3DT16
0.03898975 Celtic:England_MBA:I7627
0.03934071 Celtic:England_Roman:6DT21
0.03960397 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.03967423 Celtic:England_CA_EBA:I6680
0.03997863 Celtic:Scotland_LIA:I3568
0.04086213 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.04103028 Celtic:Scotland_MIA
0.04229461 Celtic:Wales_LBA

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 2.1081% / 0.02108097 | ADC: 1x RC
100.0 Celtic

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 1.5718% / 0.01571779 | ADC: 0.5x RC
79.2 Celtic
20.8 Germanic

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 1.1633% / 0.01163269 | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.8 Celtic
22.2 Germanic

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 1.1303% / 0.01130299
73.8 Celtic
26.2 Germanic

You see how yours is consistently dominated by Celtic but mine is dominated by Germanic until 2X

Gannicus

01-13-2025, 11:08 PM

You see how yours is consistently dominated by Celtic but mine is dominated by Germanic until 2X

Yep, it's why among other sample sets that I'm fairly sure I'm mostly Celtic with Germanic followed by some extra Mediterranean. And it could explain why I'm not as close as you are to the various Scandinavian and other Germanic samples.