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Gergő Marosvári
01-15-2025, 09:33 PM
There are multiple calculators on Gedmatch/Admixture Studio, but I have to say that for me, this MDLP calculator (MDLP K16) gave me an impressively accurate results in terms of my known ancestry!
The results shows my distant Zipser German ancestry and even the usual Balkan (as Bulgarian) percentage I tend to get in a lot of calculators!

I am curious if your results are also accurate for you.
Of course you can use whatever option you want, but I would recommend to try it with 0.25x or 0.5x ADC.

ATTENTION: This is NOT a G25 calculator, you need your MDLP K16 percentages from Gedmatch/Admixture Studio to get your results here!

https://i.postimg.cc/j2C4VHT0/image.png

https://i.postimg.cc/q70cBVrG/image.png

Link for the calculator: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AHUnpFyoLdl3K8zMdnlpz73BwO4Vk6vD/view?usp=drive_link
Vahaduo: https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/
Two-way mode page: https://output.jsbin.com/gojecoh

Athalafuns
01-15-2025, 09:47 PM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 180.6098% / 1.80609821 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.4 Provencal_386
24.8 Spanish_447
7.4 Italian_228
1.4 Spanish_444

Target: RNB27
Distance: 204.6827% / 2.04682655 | ADC: 0.5x RC
75.0 Provencal_386
19.2 Spanish_449
5.8 Spanish_444

Rafael Passoni
01-15-2025, 10:54 PM
Target: me
Distance: 292.6134% / 2.92613430
48.2 Macedonian_324
18.2 Sardinian_414
17.6 Italian_224
12.6 Greek_184
1.2 BedouinB_71
1.2 Serbian_427
1.0 Turk_482

Solitude
01-15-2025, 11:02 PM
Target: result
Distance: 207.4027% / 2.07402656 | ADC: 0.25x RC
32.6 Spanish_450
20.8 Bantu_1_55
18.6 Spanish_444
9.6 Bolivian_84
9.0 Portuguese_385
5.2 Luo_320
4.2 Dane_116

ScandinavianCelt
01-16-2025, 01:11 AM
The MDLP K16 Modern on Gedmatch has different Source populations than the one on Admix Studio. Which one did you use? I'm getting different results with each when applying them to your calc. Thanks.

Fistora
01-16-2025, 09:49 AM
I dunno

1.90 Oskar = 62.6% Belarusian_1_72 + 37.4% French_155
2.00 Oskar = 53.5% German_173 + 46.5% Lithuanian_317
2.01 Oskar = 75.2% Pole_383 + 24.8% Norwegian_364
2.04 Oskar = 77.8% Pole_383 + 22.2% Icelandic_207
2.05 Oskar = 63.7% Belarusian_2_73 + 36.3% German_173
2.07 Oskar = 53.9% Norwegian_364 + 46.1% Hungarian_205
2.09 Oskar = 54.7% Hungarian_204 + 45.3% Norwegian_364
2.09 Oskar = 50.7% Icelandic_207 + 49.3% Hungarian_205
2.09 Oskar = 57.9% Hungarian_204 + 42.1% Icelandic_207
2.11 Oskar = 79.2% Pole_383 + 20.8% Orcadian_367

Distance to: Oskar
2.91171771 Pole_383
3.19078360 Sorb_439
3.35973213 Pole_384
3.58244330 Dutch_127
3.78268423 German_Lipsian_176
3.88503539 Slovak_436
4.00926427 Swede_456
4.13348521 Pole_381
4.41869890 Hungarian_206
4.56039472 German_172
4.84641104 Ukrainian_489
4.98367334 Ukrainians_west_492
5.18752349 German_174
5.20964490 Belarusian_2_73
5.58729809 Czech_114
5.63452749 Scottish_422
5.67175458 Hungarian_204
5.70372685 Belarusian_3_74
5.72876077 Ukrainians_north_491
5.84844424 Shetlandic_430

Wend-Kruzek
01-16-2025, 12:06 PM
Distance to: KruzekMDLP16gedm:
4.78481975 Pole_383
5.58257109 Pole_381
5.67891715 Slovak_436
5.71880232 German_Lipsian_176
5.95655941 Hungarian_204
6.04649485 Ukrainian_489
6.05577410 Pole_384
6.10641466 Dutch_127
6.58761717 Hungarian_206
6.77485793 Sorb_439
6.86303869 Croat_112
6.99834981 Czech_114
7.14840542 Ukrainians_north_491
7.18857427 Hungarian_205
7.20638606 Ukrainians_west_492
7.21039527 Belarusian_2_73
7.25150329 Russian_401
7.28376963 Slovenian_437
7.60760146 German_172
7.61346833 Pole_382
8.03241558 Belarusian_1_72
8.05033540 Russian_398
8.23906548 German_174
8.30703918 Dane_116
8.39866656 Cossack_109



Distance to: KruzekMDLP16:
4.96642729 Hungarian_205
5.30182987 Hungarian_204
5.79826698 Ukrainian_489
5.90918776 Pole_381
6.18941031 Cossack_109
6.19289109 Pole_383
6.23821289 Slovak_436
6.32864124 Russian_401
6.59758289 Croat_112
6.78678127 Pole_384
6.81785890 Ukrainians_west_492
6.86215710 Belarusian_West_76
6.88666102 Pole_382
7.17018131 Czech_114
7.28456588 Ukrainians_north_491
7.35418928 Sorb_439
7.36234338 Slovenian_437
7.38698179 Belarusian_East_75
7.55389304 Belarusian_1_72
7.57046234 Russian_398
7.74411389 Croat_111
7.76351724 Ukrainians_east_490
7.83679782 Bosnian_86
7.84957961 Serbian_427
7.89025348 German_Lipsian_176

Target: KruzekMDLP16gedmach:
Distance: 257.8217% / 2.57821713
38.0 Lithuanian_317
37.4 Scottish_420
11.8 Georgian_169
10.8 German_173
2.0 Orcadian_367


Target: KruzekMDLP16:
Distance: 242.1341% / 2.42134127
63.4 Lithuanian_317
23.6 German_173
8.8 Georgian_169
4.2 Turk_482

Sia. Sorry it doesn't fit :ohwell:

Wend-Kruzek
01-16-2025, 12:15 PM
Using 4 populations approximation: Gedmatch

1 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Pole_Poland + Pole_Poland + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.960259
2 Belarusian_Belarus + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Pole_Poland + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.979367
3 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Pole_EastPoland + Russians-West_WestRussian + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.982331
4 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Pole_EastPoland + Russians-West_WestRussian + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 4.010784

Using 4 populations approximation Admix
1 25% Belarusian_1_72 + 25% Lithuanian_317 + 25% Lithuanian_317 + 25% Greek_185 @ 3,407
2 25% Belarusian_1_72 + 25% Russians-West_405 + 25% Lithuanian_317 + 25% Greek_185 @ 3,435
3 25% Belarusian_1_72 + 25% Belarusian_1_72 + 25% Lithuanian_317 + 25% Greek_185 @ 3,454
4 25% Belarusian_1_72 + 25% Belarusian_1_72 + 25% Russians-West_405 + 25% Greek_183 @ 3,597

DNAGENICS - Admixture Studio

MDLP K16

Modern Populations - MDLP

Fit: 2.66 - No extra distance - Euclidean

Lithuanian 317
49.60%
Hungarian 205
10.60%
Dutch 127
9.60%
Georgian 169
6.80%
English 133
6.60%
Belarusian 1 72
6.20%
Bulgarian 93
6.20%
Turk 482
4.00%
Italian 224
0.40

4 pop
Result #1
Fit: 3.97
Bosnian 86
25.00%
Russians West 405
25.00%
Russians West 405
25.00%
Serbian 428
25.00%
Result #2
Fit: 4.02
Hungarian 205
25.00%
Pole 382
25.00%
Russians West 405
25.00%
Serbian 428
25.00%
Result #3
Fit: 4.07
Pole 382
25.00%
Bosnian 86
25.00%
Russians West 405
25.00%
Serbian 428
25.00%
Result #4
Fit: 4.07
Belarusian 1 72
25.00%
Bosnian 86
25.00%
Russians West 405
25.00%
Serbian 428
25.00%

all i found

tk'es
01-16-2025, 01:38 PM
https://i.ibb.co/6XNtGcs/vahad1.png

https://i.ibb.co/WnP7JrJ/vahad2.png

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ScandinavianCelt
01-16-2025, 01:59 PM
Using Gedmatch w/merged data:

Target: SC_MDLP.K16_Raw_Gedmatch
Distance: 112.1456% / 1.12145637 | ADC: 0.5x RC
38.0 Dutch_127
21.6 Hungarian_206
18.4 Irish_221
12.2 Scottish_422
9.8 Scottish_423


Distance to: SC_MDLP.K16_Raw_Gedmatch
1.89657586 Dutch_127
2.28980349 Scottish_422
2.54037399 Scottish_423
2.72594938 Irish_221
3.14191025 Shetlandic_430
3.17381474 Scottish_425
3.21704834 Hungarian_206
3.36028273 Scottish_424
3.38917394 English_131
3.44357373 German_Lipsian_176
3.70075668 Irish_218
3.73472891 Scottish_421
3.94361509 German_172
3.95728442 Welsh_506
4.00703132 French_159
4.03780881 Irish_219
4.07939947 Irish_220
4.55880467 Irish_222
4.61596144 German_174
4.76627737 Dane_116
4.97904609 English_132
5.23426213 Swede_456
5.41496076 Pole_383
5.73171004 English_133
5.75716944 Irish_217

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Top 10 Gedmatch 4-way Oracles:

1 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Icelandic_Iceland + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 0.593273
2 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Icelandic_Iceland + Irish_Cork_Kerry + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 0.726786
3 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Icelandic_Iceland + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 0.748660
4 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Norwegian_Norwegia + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 0.754798
5 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Icelandic_Iceland + Irish_Munster + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 0.761783
6 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Irish_Cork_Kerry + Norwegian_Norwegia + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 0.777626
7 Icelandic_Iceland + Irish_Munster + Macedonian_Macedonia + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 0.780606
8 Dutch_Netherlands + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Romanian_Apuseni @ 0.791568
9 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Icelandic_Iceland + Icelandic_Iceland + Irish_Cork_Kerry @ 0.791798
10 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Icelandic_Iceland + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Highlands @ 0.803818

Gergő Marosvári
01-16-2025, 02:02 PM
The MDLP K16 Modern on Gedmatch has different Source populations than the one on Admix Studio. Which one did you use? I'm getting different results with each when applying them to your calc. Thanks.

This one is originally the Admixture Studio one. I prefer this one over the Gedmatch's MDLP K16.

Beowulf
01-16-2025, 02:07 PM
Target: Beowulf
Distance: 1.1083% / 1.10825170
43.4 German_173
21.7 Spanish_442
18.6 Italian_228
5.5 Basque_2_68
4.3 Sardinian_414
2.6 Mozabite_351
2.5 Italian_224
1.4 Albanian_9

Beowulf
01-16-2025, 02:10 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/zf6WHNqt/Captura-de-pantalla-2025-01-16-160945.png (https://postimages.org/)

Gergő Marosvári
01-16-2025, 02:20 PM
The MDLP K16 Modern on Gedmatch has different Source populations than the one on Admix Studio. Which one did you use? I'm getting different results with each when applying them to your calc. Thanks.

My Gedmatch MDLP K16 results:
https://i.postimg.cc/m2BnNzWy/image.png

The two closest populations are also two Hungarian samples, but the mixed mode is not as good, as it is with the Admixture Studio's K16 calc.

ScandinavianCelt
01-16-2025, 02:23 PM
This one is originally the Admixture Studio one. I prefer this one over the Gedmatch's MDLP K16.

Admix Studio with merged data:

NO ADC:

Distance: 0.74

35.80% Dutch_127
30.60% Pole_383
12.20% German_173
12.20% Serbian_427
06.80% Lithuanian_317
01.00% Bulgarian_94
00.60% Greek_184
00.20% Pole_384
00.20% Macedonian_324
00.20% Turk_482
00.20% BedouinB_71

.25x ADC:

Distance: 0.88

46.20% Pole_383
31.00% Dutch_127
13.60% Serbian_427
08.80% German_173
00.20% Hungarian_205
00.20% BedouinB_71

.5x ADC:

Distance: 1.44

75.60% German_Lipsian_176
18.60% Pole_383
04.40% Croat_112
01.40% Slovak_436

2x ADC:

Distance: 3.41

85.40% German_Lipsian_176
13.20% Slovak_436
01.20% Pole_383
00.20% Dutch_127


Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% German_Lipsian_176 @ 1.422
2 100% Slovak_436 @ 2.539
3 100% Pole_383 @ 2.611
4 100% Dutch_127 @ 2.868
5 100% German_172 @ 3.583
6 100% Hungarian_204 @ 3.648
7 100% Hungarian_206 @ 3.853
8 100% Sorb_439 @ 3.862
9 100% Czech_114 @ 3.939
10 100% Pole_381 @ 3.996

Mixed Mode:
1 67.58% Dutch_127 + 32.42% Hungarian_205 @ 0.962
2 56.64% Dutch_127 + 43.36% Hungarian_204 @ 1.032
3 87.89% Pole_383 + 12.11% Italian_224 @ 1.098
4 50.39% Hungarian_204 + 49.61% Dutch_127 @ 1.120
5 75.39% Pole_383 + 24.61% French_156 @ 1.146
6 87.89% Pole_383 + 12.11% Spanish_443 @ 1.174
7 75.39% Pole_383 + 24.61% French_157 @ 1.177
8 75.39% German_Lipsian_176 + 24.61% Pole_383 @ 1.193
9 75.39% German_Lipsian_176 + 24.61% Slovak_436 @ 1.213
10 83.20% Pole_383 + 16.80% Provencal_386 @ 1.228


So what is the term to describe a European with half genes from the east and half from the west? Just "mixed"? Probably why I end up matching the Czech HG-Farmer profile.

Gallop
01-16-2025, 02:56 PM
The link to get the coordinates for this calculator?

Gergő Marosvári
01-16-2025, 03:25 PM
The link to get the coordinates for this calculator?

If you uploaded your raw data to Gedmatch you can find the percentages in the MDLP K16 calculator. You can also find this calculator on Admixture Studio and DNA Genics.

ScandinavianCelt
01-16-2025, 03:40 PM
My Gedmatch MDLP K16 results:
https://i.postimg.cc/m2BnNzWy/image.png

The two closest populations are also two Hungarian samples, but the mixed mode is not as good, as it is with the Admixture Studio's K16 calc.


The source sample lists are different so you really can't compare one set to the other cuz they represent different groups so it doesn't make any sense only one target set of coordinates will make sense and so you really can't cross them and so which is the origin of the source? Which calculator did they create or did you create those coordinates from because if you just cross over it's not going to make sense

Gergő Marosvári
01-16-2025, 03:47 PM
The source sample lists are different so you really can't compare one set to the other cuz they represent different groups so it doesn't make any sense only one target set of coordinates will make sense and so you really can't cross them and so which is the origin of the source? Which calculator did they create or did you create those coordinates from because if you just cross over it's not going to make sense

Good question idk.
These samples I shared with all of you can be found on Admixture Studio and DNA Genics.
I did NOT create this coordinates ofc.

gixajo
01-16-2025, 03:51 PM
Target: gixajo
Distance: 219.7831% / 2.19783124 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.8 Spanish_450
15.8 Spanish_452
9.0 Latvian_307
8.6 Sardinian_414
1.8 BedouinB_71

Distance to: gixajo
3.51277668 Spanish_450
4.00044997 Spanish_453
4.31224999 Spanish_449
4.33160478 Spanish_448
4.76224737 Spanish_447
4.77017819 Spanish_441
5.01236471 Spanish_451
6.02282326 Spanish_442
6.37914571 Spanish_445
6.39534205 Spanish_446
6.73415177 Spanish_440
7.93188502 Spanish_443
9.56522870 Portuguese_385
9.96877124 French_155
11.52454771 Spanish_444
11.89230844 Provencal_386
12.29634092 French_156
12.37622721 French_157
12.41722594 German_173
13.40371217 French_159
13.45553789 English_133
14.22774402 Welsh_506
14.31218711 French_158
14.46797152 Scottish_421
14.61398303 Scottish_424



2.816 gixajo = 88% Spanish_450 + 12% Spanish_452
2.860 gixajo = 92% Spanish_450 + 8% Basque_2_68
2.926 gixajo = 88% Spanish_450 + 12% French_158
2.935 gixajo = 92% Spanish_450 + 8% Basque_1_67
3.009 gixajo = 74% Spanish_450 + 26% Spanish_442
3.014 gixajo = 76% Spanish_450 + 24% Spanish_445
3.185 gixajo = 62% Spanish_450 + 38% Spanish_453
3.236 gixajo = 97% Spanish_453 + 3% BedouinB_71
3.359 gixajo = 84% Spanish_450 + 16% Spanish_446
3.390 gixajo = 62% Portuguese_385 + 38% Spanish_452
3.403 gixajo = 93% Spanish_453 + 7% Finn_152
3.412 gixajo = 93% Spanish_453 + 7% Latvian_307
3.439 gixajo = 93% Spanish_453 + 7% Estonian_140
3.442 gixajo = 93% Spanish_453 + 7% Latvian_Dobele_309
3.442 gixajo = 93% Spanish_453 + 7% Lithuanian_317
3.445 gixajo = 79% Spanish_450 + 21% Spanish_448
3.461 gixajo = 84% Spanish_450 + 16% Spanish_447
3.463 gixajo = 98% Spanish_450 + 2% Sardinian_414
3.464 gixajo = 92% Spanish_453 + 8% Belarusian_3_74
3.467 gixajo = 91% Spanish_453 + 9% Ukrainians_west_492

vader
01-16-2025, 04:02 PM
Target: Me
Distance: 168.9045% / 1.68904487 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.6 Spanish_449
17.8 Corsican_108
17.4 Provencal_386
9.4 Spanish_444
8.8 Spanish_443
4.0 Chechen_101


Distance to: Me
4.43050787 Portuguese_385
4.80397752 Spanish_443
4.88886490 Spanish_440
4.95099990 Provencal_386
6.19410203 Spanish_449
7.29454591 Spanish_450
7.65132668 Spanish_451
7.88569591 Italian_224
7.95042137 Corsican_108
8.00099994 Spanish_441
8.05002484 Swiss_457
8.17834947 Spanish_448
8.85059320 French_156
9.01750520 French_157
9.26101506 Italian_227
9.34993048 Spanish_447
9.81402058 Spanish_453
10.00800180 Italian_229
10.01929638 German_173
10.46099422 French_155
11.05302673 Spanish_446
11.06332681 Spanish_444
11.70014957 German_175
11.84382540 Romanian_394
12.06096182 Italian_226

ScandinavianCelt
01-16-2025, 04:04 PM
Using 23andMe data, Gedmatch results:

Target: result
Distance: 210.0142% / 2.10014169 | ADC: 0.5x RC
71.0 Hungarian_206
16.2 Scottish_420
12.8 Irish_221

Target: result
Distance: 123.5061% / 1.23506065 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.4 Hungarian_206
42.6 Orcadian_367
4.8 Chechen_101
1.2 Mozabite_351

ScandinavianCelt
01-16-2025, 04:26 PM
Target: Me
Distance: 168.9045% / 1.68904487 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.6 Spanish_449
17.8 Corsican_108
17.4 Provencal_386
9.4 Spanish_444
8.8 Spanish_443
4.0 Chechen_101


Distance to: Me
4.43050787 Portuguese_385
4.80397752 Spanish_443
4.88886490 Spanish_440
4.95099990 Provencal_386
6.19410203 Spanish_449
7.29454591 Spanish_450
7.65132668 Spanish_451
7.88569591 Italian_224
7.95042137 Corsican_108
8.00099994 Spanish_441
8.05002484 Swiss_457
8.17834947 Spanish_448
8.85059320 French_156
9.01750520 French_157
9.26101506 Italian_227
9.34993048 Spanish_447
9.81402058 Spanish_453
10.00800180 Italian_229
10.01929638 German_173
10.46099422 French_155
11.05302673 Spanish_446
11.06332681 Spanish_444
11.70014957 German_175
11.84382540 Romanian_394
12.06096182 Italian_226


It's interesting that we get similar proportions of Chechen because I've read that the Basque language really doesn't resemble any other language apparently except perhaps the Chechen language and if you and I share the same haplogroup and I think we do that at one time was Basque and in fact still is then it could be coming from there and probably is

ScandinavianCelt
01-16-2025, 04:29 PM
Gergo, do you know what group the Hungarian 206 represents? I'm very curious I'm guessing they were Longobards or affiliated? I think that's how I get probably a lot of my Southeastern European is through the Hungarian Swedes. They represent my closest group at some point on illustrative DNA but for all the official ancient samples they come in number two behind the Anderton Saxons of Germany.

Gergő Marosvári
01-16-2025, 04:31 PM
Gergo, do you know what group the Hungarian 206 represents? I'm very curious I'm guessing they were Longobards or affiliated? I think that's how I get probably a lot of my Southeastern European is through the Hungarian Swedes

This one is definitely an "outlier Hungarian". I think this sample might be Danube Swabian from Hungary, because this sample has a quite western-shifted profile.

Gergő Marosvári
01-16-2025, 04:34 PM
Distance to: Hungarian_206
3.50031427 Dutch_127
3.52726523 German_Lipsian_176
3.54345876 German_172
4.26370731 Dane_116
4.34102522 Welsh_506
4.49851086 Scottish_422
4.50439785 Pole_383
4.53897566 German_174
4.79393367 Slovak_436
4.85863149 Scottish_423
5.01980079 Irish_221
5.15359098 Swede_456
5.29686700 Shetlandic_430
5.41062843 Pole_384
5.43936577 Scottish_425
5.49031875 Scottish_421
5.50792157 Sorb_439
5.55285512 Pole_381
5.60685295 Czech_114
5.61023172 Scottish_424
5.78028546 English_131
5.96070466 Irish_218
6.03306721 Ukrainians_west_492
6.13381610 Hungarian_204
6.13936479 Irish_217

Target: Hungarian_206
Distance: 139.1776% / 1.39177625 | ADC: 0.25x
53.6 German_Lipsian_176
19.6 Scottish_420
8.4 Pole_383
5.2 Cossack_110
4.4 Welsh_506
3.2 Scottish_422
3.0 Ukrainians_west_492
2.0 BedouinB_71
0.6 Jew_240

Target: Hungarian_206
Distance: 218.3239% / 2.18323937 | ADC: 0.5x
53.4 Dutch_127
19.8 German_Lipsian_176
10.0 German_172
7.6 Welsh_506
5.6 Cossack_110
2.2 Swede_456
1.4 BedouinB_71

Gallop
01-16-2025, 04:54 PM
Target: Gallop
Distance: 151.8782% / 1.51878237 | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.6 Spanish_443
24.2 German_173
19.4 Spanish_446
18.8 Spanish_444
3.0 Chechen_101

Target: Gallop
Distance: 195.1025% / 1.95102496 | ADC: 0.5x RC
54.8 Spanish_443
25.0 German_173
20.2 Spanish_444


Obviously it is something you already know and recognise in your own being.

vader
01-16-2025, 04:58 PM
It's interesting that we get similar proportions of Chechen because I've read that the Basque language really doesn't resemble any other language apparently except perhaps the Chechen language and if you and I share the same haplogroup and I think we do that at one time was Basque and in fact still is then it could be coming from there and probably is

I don't see any blatant connection to Basques with my haplogroup as of yet. Although, it probably exists there as it was found nearby in Cantabria and surrounding areas. Of course, the descendant Df27 has plenty of Basques. It would have to be a very ancient connection.

The Chechen thing I have no clue.

ScandinavianCelt
01-16-2025, 05:01 PM
This one is originally the Admixture Studio one. I prefer this one over the Gedmatch's MDLP K16.

See how using results from each change?

"Target: brad.gedmatch.mdlpk16.mrg
Distance: 112.1456% / 1.12145637 | ADC: 0.5x RC"
38 Dutch_127
21.6 Hungarian_206
18.4 Irish_221
12.2 Scottish_422
9.8 Scottish_423

"Target: brad.gedmatch.mdlpk16.mrg
Distance: 79.7045% / 0.79704478 | ADC: 0.25x RC"
42.4 Dutch_127
29.6 Irish_219
20 Hungarian_206
6.6 Scottish_422
1.2 Georgian_169
0.2 Italian_228

"Target: brad.admixstudio.mdlpk16.mrg
Distance: 104.2581% / 1.04258069 | ADC: 0.5x RC"
63.8 German_Lipsian_176
26 Pole_383
10.2 Croat_112

"Target: brad.admixstudio.mdlpk16.mrg
Distance: 74.7265% / 0.74726495 | ADC: 0.25x RC"
44.4 Pole_383
32.4 Dutch_127
15 Serbian_427
8.2 German_173

Gallop
01-16-2025, 05:25 PM
Target: Gallop
Distance: 151.8782% / 1.51878237 | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.6 Spanish_443
24.2 German_173
19.4 Spanish_446
18.8 Spanish_444
3.0 Chechen_101

Target: Gallop
Distance: 195.1025% / 1.95102496 | ADC: 0.5x RC
54.8 Spanish_443
25.0 German_173
20.2 Spanish_444


Obviously it is something you already know and recognise in your own being.




Target: Father
Distance: 81.0612% / 0.81061153
23.2 Spanish_440
20.6 Belarusian_3_74
14.8 Spanish_446
12.6 Sardinian_414
8.0 Spanish_452
7.8 German_173
5.0 Maltese_328
2.8 Jew_251
1.8 Corsican_108
1.2 Spanish_450
0.8 Egyptian_128
0.6 BedouinB_71
0.4 Spanish_444
0.2 Jew_240
0.2 Jew_256

Target: Father
Distance: 108.8645% / 1.08864528 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.6 Spanish_440
10.2 Spanish_441
7.8 Belarusian_3_74
4.8 Sardinian_414
0.6 BedouinB_71

Target: Father
Distance: 108.8645% / 1.08864528 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.6 Spanish_440
10.2 Spanish_441
7.8 Belarusian_3_74
4.8 Sardinian_414
0.6 BedouinB_71

Target: Father
Distance: 133.1827% / 1.33182746 | ADC: 0.5x RC
95.4 Spanish_440
4.6 Spanish_441

I don't get this combination in general. I have come out more Germanic and some Chechen, from the Chechen elites of course.

Very interesting for my father this Belorussian combination with Jewish and with very southern: Maltese, Corsican, Egyptian, Bedouin; although they are already noisy. Would this combination be more consistent with a Sephardi or an Ashkenazi? :)




Target: Jew_251
Distance: 145.7243% / 1.45724256 | ADC: 1x RC
45.0 Samaritan_412
32.6 Maltese_328
22.4 Italian_225

Target: Jew_251
Distance: 139.4124% / 1.39412369 | R3P
45.6 Samaritan_412
27.4 Maltese_328
27.0 Sicilian_433

Gallop
01-16-2025, 05:52 PM
Target: Father
Distance: 81.0612% / 0.81061153
23.2 Spanish_440
20.6 Belarusian_3_74
14.8 Spanish_446
12.6 Sardinian_414
8.0 Spanish_452
7.8 German_173
5.0 Maltese_328
2.8 Jew_251
1.8 Corsican_108
1.2 Spanish_450
0.8 Egyptian_128
0.6 BedouinB_71
0.4 Spanish_444
0.2 Jew_240
0.2 Jew_256

Target: Father
Distance: 108.8645% / 1.08864528 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.6 Spanish_440
10.2 Spanish_441
7.8 Belarusian_3_74
4.8 Sardinian_414
0.6 BedouinB_71

Target: Father
Distance: 108.8645% / 1.08864528 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.6 Spanish_440
10.2 Spanish_441
7.8 Belarusian_3_74
4.8 Sardinian_414
0.6 BedouinB_71

Target: Father
Distance: 133.1827% / 1.33182746 | ADC: 0.5x RC
95.4 Spanish_440
4.6 Spanish_441

I don't get this combination in general. I have come out more Germanic and some Chechen, from the Chechen elites of course.

Very interesting for my father this Belorussian combination with Jewish and with very southern: Maltese, Corsican, Egyptian, Bedouin; although they are already noisy. Would this combination be more consistent with a Sephardi or an Ashkenazi? :)

And last but not least, and without any precedent, my brother's results.


Target: brother
Distance: 142.4758% / 1.42475842 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.4 Spanish_440
33.0 Spanish_443
7.6 Italian_228
7.4 German_173
0.6 Provencal_386

ScandinavianCelt
01-16-2025, 06:47 PM
Which group do you guys plot closest to with your Steppe score using Gedmatch results?


My merged data gives me a 22.74, which plots me closest to Finn, slightly Scottish-leaning, for Steppe.

23andMe is 23.44 which puts me in Irish. And Ancestry is 22.27, which plots me, oddly enough, closest to Ava (Burmese), but also between Ava and Scottish, so probably Scottish is the logical choice. I go with merged data to be safest.


Steppe Population
33.77 Tubalar
28.48 Basque
27.51 Basque
26.26 Scottish
25.64 Orcadian
24.88 Icelandic
24.84 French
24.67 Spanish
24.4 Norwegian
24.18 English
24.02 Irish
23.93 Chechen
23.72 English
23.68 Irish
23.39 Irish
23.35 Irish
23.03 Irish
22.96 Scottish
22.96 Shetlandic
22.83 English
22.79 Scottish
22.78 Finn
22.37 Scottish
22.18 Ava
22.16 Scottish
22.13 Finn
21.95 French
21.92 Swede
21.9 French
21.89 Dutch
21.71 Spanish
21.52 Ingrians
21.48 Scottish
21.44 Hungarian
21.08 Belarusian
21.02 Latvian_Cesis
21.02 Tabasaran
20.99 Spanish
20.95 Latvian_Dobele
20.94 Finn
20.84 Spanish
20.8 Balkar
20.79 Irish
20.76 Adygei
20.73 Russian
20.54 Russian
20.3 Lak
20.26 Pole
20.22 German_Lipsian
20.19 Estonian
20.17 Cossack
20.02 Belarusian
19.93 German
19.9 Pole
19.9 Russian
19.88 Finn
19.84 Avar
19.73 Udmurd
19.65 Lithuanian
19.65 Pole
19.64 Spanish
19.63 Dane
19.6 Finn
19.6 German
19.53 Russians-West
19.53 Dargin
19.53 Welsh
19.5 German
19.5 Ukrainians_north
19.44 Latvian
19.38 Avar
19.33 Karelian
19.24 Russian
19.23 French
19.2 Pole
19.02 Lezgin
18.91 Sorb
18.91 Ukrainian
18.87 French
18.85 Russian
18.83 Slovak
18.81 Russian
18.74 Vepsa
18.69 Russian
18.69 Spanish
18.63 Erzya_Moksha
18.59 Kumyk
18.57 Belarusian
18.49 Ukrainians_east
18.48 Komi
18.48 Spanish
18.19 Spanish
18.05 Spanish
18.03 Kumyk
17.95 Finn
17.93 Austrian
17.93 Russian
17.88 Spanish
17.87 Belarusian_East
17.86 Provencal
17.81 Hungarian
17.81 Russian_cossack
17.8 Croat
17.79 Ukrainians_west
17.75 German
17.74 Czech
17.56 Spanish
17.5 Nogai
17.45 Mishar-Tatar
17.4 Slovenian
17.38 Abkhazian_Lykhny
17.26 Spanish
17.09 Chuvash
17.07 Georgian
17.06 Belarusian_West
17 Mansi
16.93 Spanish
16.92 Avar
16.78 Bosnian
16.72 Croat
16.71 Moldavian
16.64 Romanian
16.57 Serbian
16.55 Saami
16.5 Shor
16.5 Tatars
16.37 Kryashen
16.35 Hungarian
16.27 Cossack
16.23 Tajik
16.2 Macedonian
16.18 Abhkasian
16.17 Ossetian
16.13 Rushanvanch
16.1 Saami_WGA
16.08 Montenegrian
16.04 Georgian
16.04 Serbian
15.98 Mari
15.92 Abkhazian
15.89 Shugnan
15.85 Georgian
15.85 Kabardin
15.83 Bulgarian
15.75 Ishkasim
15.73 Romanian
15.68 Circassian
15.52 Swiss
15.42 Georgians
15.38 Bashkir
15.37 Portuguese
15.3 Bashkir
15.3 Spanish
15.28 Italian
15.24 Georgian
15.19 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.94 Bashkir
14.94 Italian
14.81 Khanty
14.8 Romanian
14.8 Yaghnobi
14.63 Bashkir
14.62 Bulgarian
14.49 Italian
14.13 Georgian
14.08 Gagauz
13.92 Tajik
13.82 Bashkir
13.75 Greek
13.71 Georgian_Abkhazia
13.67 Italian
13.67 Kosovar
13.52 Greek
13.52 Selkup
13.47 Bashkir
13.46 Italian
13.4 Hakas
13.37 Adjar
13.28 Corsican
13.25 Pashtun
13.12 Greek
12.98 Albanian
12.82 Forest_Yukaghir
12.66 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.66 Jatt
12.59 Azerbaijani
12.55 Ket
12.5 Azerbaijani_Khachmaz
12.46 Greek
12.45 Greek
11.97 Turk
11.96 Burusho
11.94 Jew
11.9 Italian
11.88 Greek
11.86 Turk
11.82 Armenian
11.79 Tajik
11.72 Georgian
11.65 Tajiks
11.51 Greek
11.49 Armenian
11.48 Lipka_Tatar
11.47 Turk
11.38 Jew
11.29 Zoroastrian
11.21 Turkmens
11.17 Turkmen
11.16 Turk
11.13 Sicilian
11.11 Pashtun
11.04 Turkmen
10.91 Azerbaijani_Agdzhabedi
10.85 Armenian
10.78 Turk
10.75 Kurd
10.7 Armenian
10.7 Pathan
10.61 Iran_Mazandrani
10.56 Uzbek
10.53 Iranian
10.5 Jew
10.5 Turkmen
10.44 Armenian
10.43 Jew
10.42 Azeri
10.39 Uzbek
10.34 Armenian
10.34 Turk
10.26 Iran_Lor
10.18 Armenian
10.12 Jew
10.07 Kashmiri_Pandit
10.05 Armenian
10.02 Iranian
9.91 Armenian
9.89 Assyrian
9.87 Armenian
9.86 Hazara
9.85 Maltese
9.74 Pashtun
9.7 Iraki
9.67 Hazara
9.67 Turk
9.65 Assyrian
9.64 Altaian
9.64 Forest-Nenets
9.43 Jatt
9.42 Assyrian
9.37 Assyrian
9.35 Jew
9.34 Kazakh
9.34 Jew
9.31 Kazakh
9.29 Jew
9.26 Kyrgyz
9.17 Tlingit
9.15 Armenian
9.05 Jew
9.04 Jew
8.92 Iranian
8.92 Roma
8.89 Jew
8.89 Assyrian
8.89 Uygur
8.84 Armenian
8.83 Karakalpak
8.69 Brahmin
8.68 Armenian
8.67 Jew
8.54 Kyrgyz
8.47 BedouinB
8.38 Uygur
8.37 Kazakh
8.35 Jew
8.26 Jatt
8.21 Kyrgyz
8.2 Gujjar
8.14 Tundra_Nenets
8.01 Azerbaijani
8.01 Brahmin
7.89 Nenets
7.83 Iranian
7.73 Jew
7.7 Tuvinian
7.6 Vaish
7.59 Jew
7.58 Lebanese_Muslim
7.56 Sindhi
7.54 Kyrgyz
7.53 Kyrgyz
7.35 Jew
7.35 Greenlander
7.25 Jew
7.21 Arab_Israel
7.14 GujaratiA
7.12 Kshatriya
6.99 Sardinian
6.87 Balochi
6.75 Brahui
6.62 Lebanese_Christian
6.49 Cypriot
6.44 Arab_Israel
6.18 Meena
6.15 Kalmyk
5.91 Lebanese
5.76 Makrani
5.74 Brahmin
5.65 Syrian
5.6 Yukaghir
5.59 Mongolian
5.39 Athabask
5.37 GujaratiB
5.32 Meghawal
5.06 Jordanian
5.06 Samaritan
4.82 Mozabite
4.64 Buryat
4.49 Tharu
4.48 Jew
4.32 Kurmi
4.17 Jew
3.86 Greenlander
3.79 Jew
3.69 Muslim
3.68 Srivastava
3.65 Palestinian
3.6 Libyan
3.6 Jew
3.56 Dharkar
3.55 Mongol
3.44 Yakut
3.42 Brahmin
3.31 Thakur
3.28 Druze
3.23 Kalash
3.22 Lambadi
3.16 Afroamerican
3.16 Dhaka
3.14 Tunisian
3.13 BedouinA
2.97 Egyptian
2.9 Jew
2.88 Balija
2.87 Algerian
2.8 Saudi
2.79 Berber
2.79 Moroccan
2.73 Scheduled_Caste
2.7 Bolivian
2.61 Lodi
2.58 GujaratiC
2.58 Orissa
2.54 Mongola
2.35 Kanjars
2.34 Sakha
2.24 Saharawi
2.23 Tu
2.12 Yemeni
2.1 Velama
1.96 Gupta
1.88 Even
1.87 Kol
1.85 Punjabi
1.82 Marwadi
1.76 Chukchi
1.76 Quechua
1.58 Jew
1.55 Evenk
1.49 Xibo
1.45 Satnami
1.41 Colla
1.3 Han
1.26 Naidu
1.24 Mizo
1.2 Chamar
1.19 Nganasan
1.15 Mayan
1.13 Wichi
1.12 Daur
1.1 Kuki
1.06 Khasi
1.01 Pima
1 Brahmin
0.99 Vysya
0.98 Egyptian
0.97 Bolivian
0.95 Nyishi
0.91 Punjabi
0.91 She
0.9 Hallaki
0.9 Hezhen
0.89 Mixtec
0.89 Naxi
0.85 Dusadh
0.85 Eskimo
0.84 Han
0.82 Mende
0.72 Siddi
0.71 Kamsali
0.71 Miao
0.67 Yi
0.66 Kapu
0.66 Tujia
0.65 Chenchu
0.63 Cachi
0.6 Korean
0.6 Mixe
0.6 Tamang
0.59 Even
0.59 Hakkipikki
0.58 Eskimo_Sireniki
0.56 Scheduled_Caste
0.55 Yoruba
0.51 Burmese
0.51 Kurumba
0.5 Zapotec
0.48 Egyptian
0.48 Eskimo
0.47 North_Kannadi
0.46 Ami
0.46 Gond
0.44 Esan
0.44 Piapoco
0.42 Bhil
0.39 Piramalai_Kallars
0.38 Thai
0.37 Surui
0.36 Mandenka
0.34 Kinh
0.32 Itelmen
0.32 Koryak
0.32 Oroqen
0.3 Atajal
0.3 Lahu
0.29 Japanese
0.27 Bengali
0.25 Luhya
0.21 Eskimo
0.21 Filipino
0.21 Karitiana
0.21 Luo
0.19 Bolivian
0.19 Dai
0.17 GujaratiD
0.16 Gambian
0.15 Aonaga
0.15 Vietnamese
0.12 Cambodian
0.12 Nivkh
0.11 Maasai
0.11 Sakilli
0.09 Bantu
0.06 Sahariya
0.04 Ethiopian
0.04 Even
0.04 Ulchi
0.03 Jew

cass
01-16-2025, 07:00 PM
Target: cassgedm
Distance: 237.5625% / 2.37562521 | ADC: 0.5x
58.2 Pole_383
29.2 Dutch_127
12.6 Norwegian_364

Target: cassgedm
Distance: 226.0912% / 2.26091197 | ADC: 0.25x
72.4 Pole_383
19.0 Scottish_420
5.4 Dutch_127
3.2 Norwegian_364

Target: cassgedm
Distance: 208.6969% / 2.08696924
34.6 Lithuanian_317
28.0 Scottish_420
25.4 German_173
7.2 Norwegian_364
3.8 Georgian_169
1.0 Orcadian_367


Steppe 22.81 Pct

ScandinavianCelt
01-16-2025, 07:04 PM
And how about your Northeast Europe match? My merged is 26.42, which plots me closest to Slovenian, but leaning towards Dane. I would like to add that looking at the list I think it shows me plotting between Scottish and danish and it's probably just coincidence that slovenians also get that mixture so maybe my northeastern looks might even plot in Slovenia today I don't know I'd have to look at some Slovenian people to see if I might look Slovenian because everybody tells me I look Northern and people always guess Swedish or Norwegian or sometimes German but Irish people as I've said also said they can see that I'm part Irish so I don't know I guess that's what Americans are they're such a mixture in most recent times.

38.86 Saami_WGA
38.43 Finn
38.38 Latvian_Cesis
38.24 Latvian_Dobele
38.09 Latvian
38.03 Estonian
37.79 Lithuanian
37.36 Russian
36.25 Russians-West
35.04 Vepsa
34.81 Ingrians
34.54 Russian
34.42 Karelian
34.28 Belarusian
33.97 Erzya_Moksha
33.93 Belarusian
33.9 Finn
33.82 Finn
33.57 Ukrainians_east
33.48 Pole
33.39 Finn
33.38 Russian
33.21 Finn
32.85 Russian
32.81 Belarusian_West
32.74 Finn
32.56 Russian
32.51 Belarusian
32 Belarusian_East
31.96 Cossack
31.94 Russian
31.75 Ukrainians_north
31.72 Russian
31.49 Russian_cossack
31.42 Saami
31.4 Russian
31.11 Pole
31.01 Sorb
31 Ukrainian
30.84 Ukrainians_west
30.41 Chuvash
30.4 Icelandic
30.32 Norwegian
30.25 Swede
30.19 Pole
29.9 Pole
29.43 Slovak
29 Hungarian
28.82 Hungarian
28.46 Czech
28.26 Komi
28.1 Orcadian
27.84 Cossack
27.55 German_Lipsian
27.54 Dutch
27.4 German
27.38 Scottish
27.37 German
27.07 Hungarian
26.88 Shetlandic
26.58 Dane
26.34 Slovenian
26.23 Scottish
26.17 Mishar-Tatar
26.08 Scottish
26.07 English
26.03 English
25.97 Irish
25.97 Mari
25.95 Irish
25.92 Scottish
25.82 Irish
25.8 Irish
25.71 Croat
25.65 Kryashen
25.59 Scottish
25.48 Welsh
25.32 Irish
25.32 Irish
25.31 English
25.29 French
25.07 Scottish
24.83 Serbian
24.81 Croat
24.64 Bosnian
24.47 German
24.31 German
23.63 Udmurd
23.38 Austrian
22.94 French
22.93 French
22.81 Tatars
22.72 French
22.35 Serbian
22.32 Mansi
21.99 Moldavian
21.12 Montenegrian
21.01 Bashkir
20.94 Romanian
20.83 Tlingit
20.7 Bulgarian
20.12 Forest_Yukaghir
19.6 Macedonian
19.59 Lipka_Tatar
19.54 Bulgarian
19.37 Romanian
19.31 Spanish
18.79 Khanty
18.73 Bashkir
18.61 Provencal
18.43 Swiss
18.35 Italian
18.21 Spanish
18.2 Spanish
17.72 Selkup
17.52 Spanish
17.36 Portuguese
17.31 Spanish
17.2 Romanian
17.15 Spanish
17.1 Bashkir
17.01 Gagauz
16.93 Spanish
16.88 Spanish
16.74 French
16.54 Bashkir
16.31 Spanish
16.24 Bashkir
16.18 Spanish
16.14 Kosovar
16.02 Spanish
15.76 Spanish
15.64 Italian
15.58 Spanish
15.45 Basque
14.78 Spanish
14.76 Basque
14.69 Bashkir
14.61 Italian
14.49 Corsican
14.49 Nenets
14.4 Albanian
14.39 Greek
14.39 Ket
13.66 Greek
13.57 Greek
12.97 Forest-Nenets
12.9 Tundra_Nenets
12.79 Italian
12.76 Greek
11.44 Shugnan
11.16 Hakas
11.11 Jew
10.91 Italian
10.82 Yaghnobi
10.6 Yukaghir
10.25 Shor
10.17 Tajik
9.98 Tabasaran
9.94 Greek
9.88 Greek
9.76 Dargin
9.72 Rushanvanch
9.6 Ava
9.53 Avar
9.41 Ishkasim
9.37 Avar
9.29 Maltese
9.23 Avar
9.16 Sicilian
9.12 Jew
9.07 Sardinian
9.02 Kalash
8.99 Tajik
8.74 Italian
8.68 Greenlander
8.66 Jew
8.63 Jew
8.33 Nogai
8.29 Lak
8.11 Karakalpak
8.1 Lezgin
8.09 Greek
7.88 Kazakh
7.84 Turk
7.79 Turk
7.73 Kazakh
7.58 Kumyk
7.53 Turkmen
7.46 Turkmen
7.36 Turkmen
7.35 Turk
7.29 Yakut
7.13 Nganasan
7.12 Uzbek
6.81 Pashtun
6.74 Tajik
6.72 Kabardin
6.62 Kyrgyz
6.51 Kumyk
6.47 Jew
6.41 Circassian
6.39 Jatt
6.26 Roma
6.25 Athabask
6.21 Greenlander
6.03 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
5.95 Uygur
5.92 Pashtun
5.91 Turk
5.85 Even
5.84 Jew
5.54 Altaian
5.45 Uygur
5.37 Kyrgyz
5.36 Jew
5.22 Chechen
5.2 Dolgan
5.16 Uzbek
5.03 Turkmens
5.01 GujaratiA
5 Kyrgyz
4.96 Hazara
4.94 Brahmin
4.91 Jew
4.84 Adygei
4.82 Kazakh
4.8 Jew
4.73 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
4.72 Kyrgyz
4.68 Kalmyk
4.66 Azerbaijani_Khachmaz
4.62 Tuvinian
4.56 Brahmin
4.54 Tajiks
4.5 Ossetian
4.42 Vaish
4.32 Evenk
4.26 Jew
4.21 Hazara
4.21 Pathan
4.14 Afroamerican
4.13 Jatt
4.11 Balkar
4.06 Jew
4.06 Azerbaijani
3.85 Pashtun
3.85 Tundra_Yukaghir
3.82 Azerbaijani
3.75 Kshatriya
3.58 Algerian
3.57 Armenian
3.56 Melanesian
3.55 Abkhazian_Lykhny
3.53 Jew
3.52 Kyrgyz
3.47 Mongolian
3.45 Punjabi
3.35 Azerbaijani_Agdzhabedi
3.33 GujaratiB
3.25 Druze
3.21 Sakha
3.15 Jatt
3.13 Zoroastrian
3.12 Australian
3.03 Khomani
2.85 Armenian
2.84 Chukchi
2.84 Turk
2.83 Papuan
2.83 Srivastava
2.81 Jew
2.8 Meena
2.75 Even
2.73 Kosipe
2.69 Buryat
2.66 Gujjar
2.59 Aeta
2.55 Jew
2.54 Armenian
2.46 Kashmiri_Pandit
2.43 Turk
2.36 Mongol
2.35 Georgian
2.29 Iranian
2.27 Armenian
2.26 Tubalar
2.23 Cypriot
2.22 Moroccan
2.2 Koinanbe
2.18 Even
2.15 Kurd
2.14 Azeri
2.14 Burusho
2.07 Adjar
2.06 Ju_hoan_North
2.03 Orissa
2.02 Bajo
2 Lebbo
1.96 Dharkar
1.95 Lebanese_Muslim
1.93 Brahmin
1.92 Armenian
1.88 Abhkasian
1.87 Thakur
1.84 Iranian
1.8 Armenian
1.8 Georgians
1.78 Meghawal
1.77 Sindhi
1.74 Iranian
1.71 Armenian
1.68 Iranian
1.66 Dhaka
1.65 Batak
1.63 Iran_Lor
1.62 Lebanese
1.62 Punjabi
1.58 Quechua
1.58 Syrian
1.56 Lebanese_Christian
1.52 Berber
1.52 Vizayan
1.51 Bolivian
1.48 Muslim
1.48 Tunisian
1.43 Gupta
1.41 Georgian
1.4 Great_Andamanese
1.4 Jordanian
1.38 Assyrian
1.38 Jew
1.36 Armenian
1.36 Mbuti
1.34 Filipino
1.33 Congo
1.25 Jew
1.24 Bantu
1.22 Onge
1.17 Lambadi
1.15 Kol
1.14 Biaka
1.14 Savara
1.12 Dusadh
1.1 Hadza
1.1 Scheduled_Caste
1.08 Tharu
1.07 Georgian
1.06 Arab_Israel
1.03 Dusun
1.03 GujaratiC
1.02 Armenian
1.01 Bantu
1.01 Thai
0.99 Ami
0.99 Gond
0.99 Mayan
0.99 Mozabite
0.98 Afa
0.98 Jew
0.98 Palestinian
0.97 Iran_Mazandrani
0.97 Oroqen
0.97 Sahariya
0.96 Chenchu
0.92 Jew
0.91 Zapotec
0.9 Abkhazian
0.88 Hallaki
0.88 Luo
0.87 Maasai
0.85 Eskimo
0.85 Murut
0.84 Armenian
0.84 Egyptian
0.83 Bantu
0.83 GujaratiD
0.82 Assyrian
0.81 Atajal
0.81 Jew
0.8 Cachi
0.8 Dai
0.8 Mixtec
0.79 Libyan
0.77 Bantu
0.73 Lodi
0.72 Assyrian
0.72 Samaritan
0.71 Luhya
0.71 Luzon
0.69 Balochi
0.69 Khasi
0.68 Bolivian
0.68 Cambodian
0.68 North_Kannadi
0.66 Datog
0.65 Jew
0.63 Satnami
0.63 Tamang
0.62 Kinh
0.61 Colla
0.58 Jew
0.57 Mende
0.57 Saharawi
0.57 Vietnamese
0.56 Bantu
0.55 Armenian
0.55 Jew
0.52 Georgian
0.51 Itelmen
0.51 Yemeni
0.5 BedouinA
0.5 Egyptian
0.49 Egyptian
0.49 Siddi
0.48 Igorot
0.47 Koryak
0.47 Tu
0.46 Brahui
0.44 Eskimo_Sireniki
0.44 Lahu
0.43 Chamar
0.43 Somali
0.42 Eskimo
0.4 Eskimo
0.39 Daur
0.39 Kikuyu
0.39 Mongola
0.39 Vietnamese
0.38 Miao
0.37 Bonda
0.36 Esan
0.36 Nivkh
0.33 Bhil
0.33 Santhal
0.32 Hezhen
0.32 Kharia
0.32 Mizo
0.31 Ho
0.31 Maasai
0.29 Bengali
0.29 Makrani
0.29 Nyishi
0.29 Turk
0.29 Ulchi
0.27 Han
0.26 Naxi
0.26 She
0.25 Mixe
0.24 Saudi
0.23 Armenian
0.23 Korean
0.22 Kusunda
0.21 Jew
0.21 Xibo
0.19 Yoruba
0.18 Kanjars
0.18 Kurumba
0.18 Wichi
0.17 Assyrian
0.17 Asur
0.17 Burmese
0.17 Pulliyar
0.17 Tujia
0.14 Bolivian
0.14 Brahmin
0.13 Bantu
0.13 Kurmi
0.13 Mandenka
0.13 Pima
0.11 Ethiopian
0.11 Garo
0.08 Armenian
0.08 Assyrian
0.08 Han
0.05 Gambian
0.05 Brahmin
0.04 Japanese
0.04 Karitiana
0.03 Munda
0.03 Jew
0.02 Madiga
0 Aonaga
0 Arab_Israel
0 Balija
0 Bantu
0 BedouinB
0 Bhunjia
0 Dhurwa
0 Gadaba
0 Georgian_Abkhazia
0 Georgian
0 Georgian
0 Hakkipikki
0 Iraki
0 Jew
0 Juang
0 Kamsali
0 Kapu
0 Kuki
0 Malayan
0 Marwadi
0 Mawasi
0 Naga
0 Naidu
0 Nihali
0 Paniya
0 Piapoco
0 Piramalai_Kallars
0 Sakilli
0 Surui
0 Scheduled_Caste
0 Velama
0 Vietnamese
0 Vysya
0 Yi

ScandinavianCelt
01-16-2025, 07:12 PM
Target: cassgedm
Distance: 237.5625% / 2.37562521 | ADC: 0.5x
58.2 Pole_383
29.2 Dutch_127
12.6 Norwegian_364

Target: cassgedm
Distance: 226.0912% / 2.26091197 | ADC: 0.25x
72.4 Pole_383
19.0 Scottish_420
5.4 Dutch_127
3.2 Norwegian_364

Target: cassgedm
Distance: 208.6969% / 2.08696924
34.6 Lithuanian_317
28.0 Scottish_420
25.4 German_173
7.2 Norwegian_364
3.8 Georgian_169
1.0 Orcadian_367


Steppe 22.81 Pct

Do you think you get your milk drinking through the Germanic maybe that came through England and Scotland to you potentially? I'm guessing I would plot closest to Finn because of the Swedish Roots but I'm not sure I guess maybe that's where I'm picking up my bulk milk drinking capabilities

nittionia
01-16-2025, 07:18 PM
Target: nittionia
Distance: 130.8301% / 1.30830082
46.8 Lithuanian_317
36.0 German_173
13.4 Basque_2_68
3.8 Sardinian_414

Target: nittionia
Distance: 195.2012% / 1.95201218 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.2 Norwegian_364
16.6 Sorb_439
16.4 Belarusian_3_74
10.0 Sardinian_414
8.8 German_173

cass
01-16-2025, 07:19 PM
It's hard to say because the regional base is too small.
The Germans are a bit too low level.



However, it seems I'm allergic to Basques.

2.143 cassgedm = 129% English_133 - 29% Basque_1_67
2.156 cassgedm = 132% Pole_383 - 32% Cossack_109
2.182 cassgedm = 129% German_Lipsian_176 - 29% Swiss_457
2.209 cassgedm = 114% Dutch_127 - 14% Spanish_451
2.233 cassgedm = 141% Pole_383 - 41% Belarusian_West_76
2.269 cassgedm = 128% English_133 - 28% Basque_2_68
2.294 cassgedm = 169% Pole_384 - 69% Belarusian_West_76
2.296 cassgedm = 115% Dutch_127 - 15% Spanish_449
2.307 cassgedm = 175% Dutch_127 - 75% Scottish_423
2.315 cassgedm = 140% Pole_383 - 40% Belarusian_East_75
2.319 cassgedm = 115% Dutch_127 - 15% Spanish_443
2.321 cassgedm = 113% Dutch_127 - 13% Spanish_441
2.337 cassgedm = 115% Dutch_127 - 15% Spanish_448
2.346 cassgedm = 113% Dutch_127 - 13% Spanish_447
2.354 cassgedm = 140% Pole_383 - 40% Hungarian_205
2.374 cassgedm = 113% Dutch_127 - 13% Spanish_453
2.388 cassgedm = 115% Dutch_127 - 15% Spanish_450
2.399 cassgedm = 125% German_Lipsian_176 - 25% Italian_227
2.412 cassgedm = 108% Hungarian_206 - 8% Libyan_315
2.426 cassgedm = 112% Dutch_127 - 12% Spanish_446
2.426 cassgedm = 121% Dutch_127 - 21% Provencal_386
2.431 cassgedm = 116% Dutch_127 - 16% Portuguese_385


2.252 cassgedm = 75% Pole_383 + 25% Scottish_420
2.300 cassgedm = 76% Pole_383 + 24% Orcadian_367
2.364 cassgedm = 73% Dutch_127 + 27% Belarusian_1_72
2.370 cassgedm = 81% Dutch_127 + 19% Lithuanian_317
2.408 cassgedm = 74% Pole_383 + 26% Norwegian_364
2.457 cassgedm = 81% Dutch_127 + 19% Russians-West_405
2.463 cassgedm = 77% Pole_383 + 23% Icelandic_207
2.546 cassgedm = 75% Dutch_127 + 25% Pole_382
2.557 cassgedm = 69% Dutch_127 + 31% Belarusian_2_73
2.566 cassgedm = 80% Pole_383 + 20% English_133
2.587 cassgedm = 79% Pole_383 + 21% English_132
2.590 cassgedm = 86% Dutch_127 + 14% Latvian_Cesis_308
2.620 cassgedm = 77% Pole_383 + 23% Irish_218
2.637 cassgedm = 84% Dutch_127 + 16% Latvian_Dobele_309
2.641 cassgedm = 84% Dutch_127 + 16% Estonian_140
2.655 cassgedm = 74% Pole_383 + 26% Shetlandic_430
2.657 cassgedm = 83% Dutch_127 + 17% Latvian_307
2.663 cassgedm = 53% Pole_383 + 47% Dutch_127

Dušan
01-16-2025, 07:21 PM
Target: Dušan_MDLPK16
Distance: 1.8407% / 1.84068336 | R3P
52.6 Bulgarian_93
39.4 Belarusian_3_74
8.0 Sardinian_414



Target: Dušan_MDLPK16
Distance: 2.4777% / 2.47765774 | R2P
78.9 Serbian_428
21.1 Belarusian_3_74

Impaler
01-16-2025, 07:28 PM
Target: Father
Distance: 259.9476% / 2.59947561 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.0 Bulgarian_93
17.4 Greek_181
11.4 Azerbaijani_2_44
9.6 Kalash_264
2.6 Dolgan_123


Distance to: Father
8.98837026 Romanian_392
9.96912233 Gagauz_161
10.03994024 Greek_181
11.07541421 Greek_180
11.32519316 Greek_179
11.37046613 Bulgarian_93
11.58101895 Greek_183
11.61777517 Kosovar_289
11.63481414 Bulgarian_94
11.66256404 Albanian_9
12.16339591 Romanian_394
12.46756993 Macedonian_324
13.36925952 Italian_228
13.46767240 Romanian_393
13.51098072 Jew_3_259
13.63421798 Montenegrian_349
13.97300254 Jew_2_258
14.05739663 Italian_225
14.09534675 Greek_185
14.09773031 Serbian_428
14.10767522 Moldavian_345
14.19537249 Turk_476
14.31527157 Jew_1_257
14.39252931 Italian_229
14.42308913 Sicilian_433

4.087 Father = 81% Bulgarian_93 + 19% Makrani_326
4.392 Father = 76% Bulgarian_93 + 24% Iranian_213
4.428 Father = 82% Bulgarian_93 + 18% Brahui_92
4.449 Father = 82% Bulgarian_93 + 18% Balochi_53
4.736 Father = 76% Bulgarian_93 + 24% Pashtun_374
4.873 Father = 81% Bulgarian_94 + 19% Makrani_326
4.916 Father = 85% Gagauz_161 + 15% Balochi_53
4.930 Father = 70% Serbian_428 + 30% Iran_Mazandrani_212
4.950 Father = 85% Gagauz_161 + 15% Brahui_92
4.958 Father = 79% Gagauz_161 + 21% Pashtun_374
4.965 Father = 84% Gagauz_161 + 16% Makrani_326
5.000 Father = 67% Kosovar_289 + 33% Yaghnobi_509
5.035 Father = 81% Bulgarian_93 + 19% Jew_249
5.056 Father = 87% Gagauz_161 + 13% Kalash_264
5.058 Father = 67% Serbian_428 + 33% Iranian_215
5.066 Father = 66% Serbian_428 + 34% Iranian_214
5.077 Father = 66% Serbian_428 + 34% Iranian_216
5.119 Father = 80% Bulgarian_93 + 20% Pashtun_375
5.125 Father = 80% Romanian_392 + 20% Azerbaijani_2_44
5.143 Father = 65% Serbian_428 + 35% Zoroastrian_516

cass
01-16-2025, 07:40 PM
Target: PolishKociewie_dnagenics
Distance: 222.2143% / 2.22214265 | ADC: 0.25x
31.4 Pole_384
29.8 Lithuanian_317
26.6 Norwegian_364
8.4 Belarusian_1_72
3.8 Pole_383

Target: PolishKociewie_dnagenics
Distance: 205.1508% / 2.05150759
60.6 Lithuanian_317
19.0 German_173
14.8 Scottish_420
5.6 Norwegian_364

Steppe 21.78 Pct

ScandinavianCelt
01-16-2025, 07:44 PM
There are multiple calculators on Gedmatch/Admixture Studio, but I have to say that for me, this MDLP calculator (MDLP K16) gave me an impressively accurate results in terms of my known ancestry!
The results shows my distant Zipser German ancestry and even the usual Balkan (as Bulgarian) percentage I tend to get in a lot of calculators!

I am curious if your results are also accurate for you.
Of course you can use whatever option you want, but I would recommend to try it with 0.25x or 0.5x ADC.

ATTENTION: This is NOT a G25 calculator, you need your MDLP K16 percentages from Gedmatch/Admixture Studio to get your results here!

https://i.postimg.cc/j2C4VHT0/image.png

https://i.postimg.cc/q70cBVrG/image.png

Link for the calculator: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AHUnpFyoLdl3K8zMdnlpz73BwO4Vk6vD/view?usp=drive_link
Vahaduo: https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/
Two-way mode page: https://output.jsbin.com/gojecoh


Run your full Gedmatch 22 chromosomes (raw, obviously) against the calc you posted. Then find your most dominant (highest) percentage of any single group on any single chromosome. Look at mine-- it is your group! I used the multi-tool to easily find it. Lithuania is next, chr 5 at 84.4%, and German 3rd place with 72.86% on chr 13.

Target: chr15
Distance: 577.3162% / 5.77316177
85.4 Hungarian_205
8.0 Turk_482
6.6 Sardinian_414

Target: chr5
Distance: 192.7528% / 1.92752808
84.4 Lithuanian_317
7.6 Turk_482
3.8 German_173
3.0 Greek_184
0.6 BedouinB_71
0.6 Serbian_427

Target: chr13
Distance: 159.2183% / 1.59218297
72.8 German_173
12.6 Turk_482
4.2 Mozabite_351
2.8 Georgian_169
2.0 Bolivian_82
2.0 Spanish_444
1.4 Papuan_373
1.0 French_158
1.0 Sardinian_414
0.2 Ju_hoan_North_261

K36 merged data confirms via GPS for my Hungarian plot on chromosome 15:

https://i.postimg.cc/SKSmF8CY/chr15-k36-mrg-gps-hungary.jpg (https://postimg.cc/18jkD8Wy)

Also, run an R3P against yourself to see what you get at no ADC: mine shows this dominant Hungarian chr 15 again:

Target: brad.gedmatch.mdlpk16.mrg
Distance: 136.6340% / 1.36633964 | R3P
44.8 chr1 (Scottish-Basque-Icelandic)
36.8 chr15 (Hungarian-Turk-Sardinian)
18.4 chr11 (Scottish-Latvian-Ava)

ScandinavianCelt
01-20-2025, 09:52 PM
I just got a friend from Sweden, Central Sweden, to get his DNA done and I'm running calcs for him:

This is his result for MDLP K16: (He's from Central Sweden 100%)

Target: Swede:Central_Sweden_MDLP.K16.Raw
Distance: 2.5832% / 2.58319252 | ADC: 2x RC
51.1 Swede_456
48.9 Pole_383

Target: Swede:Central_Sweden_MDLP.K16.Raw
Distance: 2.5578% / 2.55777401 | ADC: 1x RC
46.5 Swede_456
42.6 Pole_383
10.9 Dutch_127

Target: Swede:Central_Sweden_MDLP.K16.Raw
Distance: 2.1047% / 2.10470251 | ADC: 0.5x RC
46.3 Pole_383
35.2 Norwegian_364
18.5 Sorb_439

Target: Swede:Central_Sweden_MDLP.K16.Raw
Distance: 2.0827% / 2.08269404 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.1 Pole_383
34.4 Norwegian_364
19.2 Sorb_439
3.3 German_173

Target: Swede:Central_Sweden_MDLP.K16.Raw
Distance: 1.7887% / 1.78871322
36.2 Lithuanian_317
32.1 German_173
24.3 Orcadian_367
7.3 Pole_383
0.1 Georgian_169

nittionia
01-20-2025, 09:57 PM
I just got a friend from Sweden, Central Sweden, to get his DNA done and I'm running calcs for him:

This is his result for MDLP K16: (He's from Central Sweden 100%)

Target: Swede:Central_Sweden_MDLP.K16.Raw
Distance: 1.7887% / 1.78871322
36.2 Lithuanian_317
32.1 German_173
24.3 Orcadian_367
7.3 Pole_383
0.1 Georgian_169

Their result resembles mine

Target: nittionia
Distance: 130.8301% / 1.30830082
46.8 Lithuanian_317
36.0 German_173
13.4 Basque_2_68
3.8 Sardinian_414

ScandinavianCelt
01-20-2025, 10:47 PM
Their result resembles mine

Target: nittionia
Distance: 130.8301% / 1.30830082
46.8 Lithuanian_317
36.0 German_173
13.4 Basque_2_68
3.8 Sardinian_414

How much Baltic HG do you get on the Eurogenes HG-Farmer calc on Gedmatch? He's showing 64.75% I get around 57% I think. I have to check mine, but he gets more there, and I get about 5% more Anatolian Farmer. Anyway...

I only have his K36 and K13 coords. He doesn't have any official G25 as of yet. He just got his raw data yesterday. He comes from the same town my Mom's Dad's Mom is from-- and I knew him long before I found that out-- and we share a lot of DNA -- 176 cM half-match (one parent/strand), including 9 segments on chromosome 1 alone. It's nuts.

ScandinavianCelt
01-29-2025, 11:20 PM
I ran the MDLP K16 calc against all Centromeres & LCR (apparently these areas carry our most ancient DNA) and the results using my merged data file:

Target: MDLP.K16.raw.FULLCENTRO&LCR.MRG.BRAD
Distance: 19.8272% / 19.82718588 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Belarusian_3_74

Target: MDLP.K16.raw.FULLCENTRO&LCR.MRG.BRAD
Distance: 15.9882% / 15.98822183 | ADC: 0.5x RC
74.3 Latvian_307
18.3 Sardinian_414
7.4 Bolivian_84

Target: MDLP.K16.raw.FULLCENTRO&LCR.MRG.BRAD
Distance: 15.8476% / 15.84758191
57.2 Latvian_307
19.0 Sardinian_414
15.3 Finn_152
3.3 Bolivian_84
3.2 Karitiana_271
2.0 Melanesian_338


You guys should study your centromeres & LCR.

Pohjanpoika
03-27-2025, 01:44 PM
Target: Pohjanpoika_mdlpk16
Distance: 140.3687% / 1.40368708
42.6 Finn_151
14.4 Latvian_Dobele_309
14.2 Latvian_307
9.2 Icelandic_207
9.2 Norwegian_364
8.8 Lithuanian_317
1.6 Mixe_342

Target: Pohjanpoika_mdlpk16
Distance: 141.7529% / 1.41752852 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.8 Finn_151
27.8 Latvian_307
12.4 Norwegian_364
9.6 Latvian_Dobele_309
6.0 Icelandic_207
1.4 Mixe_342

Target: Pohjanpoika_mdlpk16
Distance: 195.2246% / 1.95224580 | ADC: 0.5x RC
34.0 Finn_151
29.4 Finn_150
29.2 Latvian_Dobele_309
6.0 Latvian_307
1.4 Bolivian_82

Steppe 22.18 pct, closest group is Ava. Northeast Europe 34.94 pct, i plot between Veps and Ingrians.

AndreiDNA
03-27-2025, 03:15 PM
Mom, roots in Mari-El republic, all ancestors are russians:
Distance to: Natalia
3.53235049 Erzya_Moksha_134
3.56060388 Russian_402
3.80656013 Russians-West_405
4.20255874 Pole_382
4.61372951 Cossack_110
5.01277368 Belarusian_1_72
5.10095089 Russian_398
5.35394247 Russian_401
5.42399299 Belarusian_East_75
5.86549231 Ukrainians_east_490
5.97860352 Russian_397
6.11282259 Belarusian_West_76
6.28824300 Belarusian_2_73
6.38746429 Lithuanian_317
6.52668369 Russian_399
6.76252172 Russian_cossack_404
6.89607860 Russian_396
6.98162589 Ukrainians_north_491
6.99481951 Ukrainian_489
7.11234842 Latvian_Cesis_308
7.32071718 Belarusian_3_74
7.33645691 Ingrians_209
7.41867239 Russian_400
7.54582666 Estonian_140
7.83697646 Pole_384

Target: Natalia
Distance: 183.2443% / 1.83244257 | R3P
63.8 Russians-West_405
31.0 Russian_400
5.2 Adygei_5

Me, half Mom half Southern Russian/Ukrainian/Moldavian:
Distance to: Andrei
3.00687545 Pole_382
3.44242647 Cossack_110
3.44889837 Belarusian_1_72
3.56029493 Russian_402
3.61781702 Belarusian_2_73
3.91370668 Russian_398
4.58788622 Russian_401
4.84838117 Ukrainians_east_490
5.02116520 Ukrainian_489
5.05825069 Russians-West_405
5.08170247 Ukrainians_north_491
5.22850839 Belarusian_East_75
5.28834568 Pole_384
5.45432856 Russian_396
5.50931030 Belarusian_3_74
5.52699738 Russian_cossack_404
5.71119077 Pole_381
5.98091966 Belarusian_West_76
6.07965460 Russian_399
6.11301071 Pole_383
6.14541292 Erzya_Moksha_134
6.33668683 Ingrians_209
6.33992902 Lithuanian_317
6.34332720 Ukrainians_west_492
6.61923712 Sorb_439

Target: Andrei
Distance: 192.5165% / 1.92516475 | R3P
50.6 Pole_382
44.6 Ingrians_209
4.8 Adygei_5

My half brother, half mom half west belarusian/Polish:
Distance to: Max
3.92010204 Russians-West_405
4.49384023 Lithuanian_317
4.96789694 Belarusian_1_72
5.47190095 Belarusian_West_76
5.48940798 Pole_382
5.49673539 Ukrainians_east_490
5.61143475 Russian_402
6.04721423 Russian_398
6.30255504 Belarusian_East_75
6.49550614 Latvian_307
6.61628294 Belarusian_3_74
6.82767896 Russian_401
6.96172392 Cossack_110
7.01981481 Estonian_140
7.13905456 Belarusian_2_73
7.15449509 Ukrainians_north_491
7.22842998 Latvian_Cesis_308
7.32305947 Russian_cossack_404
7.45235533 Ukrainian_489
7.67230083 Erzya_Moksha_134
7.82446164 Latvian_Dobele_309
7.85561583 Pole_384
7.89812003 Ukrainians_west_492
8.14758860 Russian_397
8.52200681 Sorb_439

Target: Max
Distance: 336.5745% / 3.36574543 | R3P
43.0 Russians-West_405
40.4 Lithuanian_317
16.6 Hungarian_205

My half sister, half mom half west belarusian/Polish:
Distance to: Kate
3.48008621 Belarusian_West_76
4.48195270 Belarusian_East_75
4.51697908 Pole_382
4.60547500 Ukrainians_east_490
4.69649870 Russian_401
4.87890357 Russian_398
4.96702124 Belarusian_1_72
4.97430397 Russian_402
5.25144742 Russians-West_405
5.40820673 Ukrainian_489
5.79347909 Ukrainians_west_492
5.79517903 Russian_cossack_404
6.13388132 Ukrainians_north_491
6.26754338 Belarusian_3_74
6.41262037 Cossack_110
6.42809459 Pole_384
6.46777396 Pole_381
6.74794784 Belarusian_2_73
6.82749588 Lithuanian_317
7.00501249 Hungarian_205
7.07747836 Sorb_439
7.31544941 Hungarian_204
7.36200380 Erzya_Moksha_134
7.37370328 Slovak_436
7.47800107 Pole_383

Target: Kate
Distance: 261.5977% / 2.61597692 | R3P
57.4 Russians-West_405
40.6 Hungarian_205
2.0 Tlingit_469

ScandinavianCelt
03-27-2025, 07:37 PM
Mom, roots in Mari-El republic, all ancestors are russians:
Distance to: Natalia
3.53235049 Erzya_Moksha_134
3.56060388 Russian_402
3.80656013 Russians-West_405
4.20255874 Pole_382
4.61372951 Cossack_110
5.01277368 Belarusian_1_72
5.10095089 Russian_398
5.35394247 Russian_401
5.42399299 Belarusian_East_75
5.86549231 Ukrainians_east_490
5.97860352 Russian_397
6.11282259 Belarusian_West_76
6.28824300 Belarusian_2_73
6.38746429 Lithuanian_317
6.52668369 Russian_399
6.76252172 Russian_cossack_404
6.89607860 Russian_396
6.98162589 Ukrainians_north_491
6.99481951 Ukrainian_489
7.11234842 Latvian_Cesis_308
7.32071718 Belarusian_3_74
7.33645691 Ingrians_209
7.41867239 Russian_400
7.54582666 Estonian_140
7.83697646 Pole_384

Target: Natalia
Distance: 183.2443% / 1.83244257 | R3P
63.8 Russians-West_405
31.0 Russian_400
5.2 Adygei_5

Me, half Mom half Southern Russian/Ukrainian/Moldavian:
Distance to: Andrei
3.00687545 Pole_382
3.44242647 Cossack_110
3.44889837 Belarusian_1_72
3.56029493 Russian_402
3.61781702 Belarusian_2_73
3.91370668 Russian_398
4.58788622 Russian_401
4.84838117 Ukrainians_east_490
5.02116520 Ukrainian_489
5.05825069 Russians-West_405
5.08170247 Ukrainians_north_491
5.22850839 Belarusian_East_75
5.28834568 Pole_384
5.45432856 Russian_396
5.50931030 Belarusian_3_74
5.52699738 Russian_cossack_404
5.71119077 Pole_381
5.98091966 Belarusian_West_76
6.07965460 Russian_399
6.11301071 Pole_383
6.14541292 Erzya_Moksha_134
6.33668683 Ingrians_209
6.33992902 Lithuanian_317
6.34332720 Ukrainians_west_492
6.61923712 Sorb_439

Target: Andrei
Distance: 192.5165% / 1.92516475 | R3P
50.6 Pole_382
44.6 Ingrians_209
4.8 Adygei_5

My half brother, half mom half west belarusian/Polish:
Distance to: Max
3.92010204 Russians-West_405
4.49384023 Lithuanian_317
4.96789694 Belarusian_1_72
5.47190095 Belarusian_West_76
5.48940798 Pole_382
5.49673539 Ukrainians_east_490
5.61143475 Russian_402
6.04721423 Russian_398
6.30255504 Belarusian_East_75
6.49550614 Latvian_307
6.61628294 Belarusian_3_74
6.82767896 Russian_401
6.96172392 Cossack_110
7.01981481 Estonian_140
7.13905456 Belarusian_2_73
7.15449509 Ukrainians_north_491
7.22842998 Latvian_Cesis_308
7.32305947 Russian_cossack_404
7.45235533 Ukrainian_489
7.67230083 Erzya_Moksha_134
7.82446164 Latvian_Dobele_309
7.85561583 Pole_384
7.89812003 Ukrainians_west_492
8.14758860 Russian_397
8.52200681 Sorb_439

Target: Max
Distance: 336.5745% / 3.36574543 | R3P
43.0 Russians-West_405
40.4 Lithuanian_317
16.6 Hungarian_205

My half sister, half mom half west belarusian/Polish:
Distance to: Kate
3.48008621 Belarusian_West_76
4.48195270 Belarusian_East_75
4.51697908 Pole_382
4.60547500 Ukrainians_east_490
4.69649870 Russian_401
4.87890357 Russian_398
4.96702124 Belarusian_1_72
4.97430397 Russian_402
5.25144742 Russians-West_405
5.40820673 Ukrainian_489
5.79347909 Ukrainians_west_492
5.79517903 Russian_cossack_404
6.13388132 Ukrainians_north_491
6.26754338 Belarusian_3_74
6.41262037 Cossack_110
6.42809459 Pole_384
6.46777396 Pole_381
6.74794784 Belarusian_2_73
6.82749588 Lithuanian_317
7.00501249 Hungarian_205
7.07747836 Sorb_439
7.31544941 Hungarian_204
7.36200380 Erzya_Moksha_134
7.37370328 Slovak_436
7.47800107 Pole_383

Target: Kate
Distance: 261.5977% / 2.61597692 | R3P
57.4 Russians-West_405
40.6 Hungarian_205
2.0 Tlingit_469

Why does it shift you all the way into Poland I don't understand that

Pohjanpoika
03-27-2025, 08:54 PM
Distance to: Pohjanpoika_mdlpk16
3.03344688 Ingrians_209
3.49396623 Finn_150
4.12205046 Finn_151
5.18222925 Estonian_140
5.18974951 Russian_396
5.22751375 Finn_149
5.38459841 Latvian_Dobele_309
5.55237787 Latvian_307
5.95260447 Karelian_270
6.21822322 Finn_148
6.33775986 Russian_399
6.51631798 Belarusian_2_73
6.65243564 Belarusian_3_74
6.86578473 Vepsa_500
7.01960825 Finn_147
7.12207133 Lithuanian_317
7.21126203 Belarusian_1_72
7.29176933 Cossack_110
7.37552710 Swede_456
7.52009973 Russian_402
7.58750947 Russian_398
7.65804805 Pole_382
7.69299682 Russian_403
7.73464285 Finn_152
7.75320579 Ukrainians_east_490
7.77048905 Latvian_Cesis_308
7.80898841 Russian_400
8.20644259 Russian_cossack_404
8.20976857 Russians-West_405
8.50985311 Norwegian_364
8.59210684 Erzya_Moksha_134
8.66982699 Icelandic_207
8.70675600 Pole_384
8.78032460 Ukrainians_north_491
9.14630526 Belarusian_East_75
9.15391173 Russian_401
9.25270231 Russian_397
9.27400129 Ukrainian_489
9.36854845 Sorb_439
9.73898865 Pole_383

Pohjanpoika
03-28-2025, 01:15 PM
My dad.

Distance to: Pohjanpoika_father_mdlpk16
3.12566793 Ingrians_209
3.48305900 Finn_151
3.52528013 Finn_150
4.53714668 Karelian_270
4.81880691 Finn_148
4.99728927 Finn_149
5.58473813 Russian_396
5.68944637 Vepsa_500
5.71483158 Finn_147
5.86969335 Estonian_140
5.88020408 Russian_399
6.13308242 Latvian_Dobele_309
6.19833042 Latvian_307
6.88026889 Belarusian_3_74
6.90968885 Russian_403
7.03729351 Finn_152
7.30406051 Russian_400
7.88919514 Belarusian_2_73
7.89041190 Swede_456
8.17489449 Cossack_110
8.30600385 Lithuanian_317
8.45946216 Russian_398
8.48006486 Belarusian_1_72
8.54228892 Russian_402
8.69848837 Russian_cossack_404
8.71305916 Ukrainians_east_490
8.91350100 Pole_382
9.01919065 Norwegian_364
9.07382499 Latvian_Cesis_308
9.16978189 Erzya_Moksha_134

Target: Pohjanpoika_father_mdlpk16
Distance: 109.8063% / 1.09806252
40.2 Latvian_307
36.6 Finn_151
10.0 Saami_WGA_407
8.0 Basque_2_68
4.6 Belarusian_3_74
0.6 Bolivian_82

Target: Pohjanpoika_father_mdlpk16
Distance: 131.6918% / 1.31691846 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.4 Finn_151
32.4 Latvian_307
23.6 Vepsa_500
6.6 Basque_2_68

Target: Pohjanpoika_father_mdlpk16
Distance: 220.0627% / 2.20062672 | ADC: 0.5x RC
49.2 Finn_151
33.0 Finn_150
17.8 Latvian_307

His Steppe is 20.69 pct, which plots him between Russian and Adygei. His Northeast Europe is 34.81 pct, which plots him between Veps and Ingrians.

RyoHazuki
03-29-2025, 05:26 PM
Target: ryo
Distance: 180.9365% / 1.80936488
41.2 Scottish_420
37.4 German_173
11.0 Orcadian_367
4.6 Georgian_169
4.0 Basque_2_68
1.8 English_133

Fabricius
04-05-2025, 10:56 PM
Target: Fabricius_MDLP-K16
Distance: 207.0332% / 2.07033190 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
34.2 Spanish_449
31.6 Pole_383
21.4 Montenegrian_349
7.6 Saharawi_408
5.2 Esan_135

Target: Fabricius_MDLP-K16
Distance: 774.5518% / 7.74551808 | ADC: 2x
68.0 Portuguese_385
24.4 Swiss_457
7.6 German_175

Target: Fabricius_MDLP-K16
Distance: 421.0082% / 4.21008227 | ADC: 0.5x
46.8 Portuguese_385
22.2 German_175
13.4 Austrian_38
10.0 German_174
5.4 Moroccan_350
1.2 Mandenka_329
1.0 Afroamerican_8

Demirkazık
04-05-2025, 11:34 PM
Target: Demir
Distance: 242.7016% / 2.42701598 | R3P
54.0 Armenian_6_25
30.6 Serbian_427
15.4 Yakut_510

Target: Demir
Distance: 181.4857% / 1.81485717 | R5P
25.8 Greek_180
25.2 Jew_244
17.6 Armenian_10_17
16.8 Pole_381
14.6 Yakut_510

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Target: Father
Distance: 166.6133% / 1.66613320 | R3P
59.4 Armenian_3_22
29.8 Romanian_394
10.8 Even_142

Target: Father
Distance: 106.5474% / 1.06547351 | R5P
32.6 Albanian_9
28.6 Armenian_9_28
22.2 Azerbaijani_Agdzhabedi_45
10.0 Tajik_460
6.6 Tundra_Yukaghir_474

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Target: Mother
Distance: 288.1959% / 2.88195923 | R3P
48.8 Jew_244
29.4 Karakalpak_269
21.8 English_133

Target: Mother
Distance: 102.2130% / 1.02213015 | R5P
49.0 Jew_243
30.0 German_173
11.2 Mongol_346
6.0 Yakut_510
3.8 Uygur_494

R1b-L51
04-06-2025, 12:30 AM
Target: K16MDLP
Distance: 103.1006% / 1.03100601
56.0 German_173
16.6 Sardinian_414
11.2 Spanish_450
6.2 Spanish_444
4.0 Mozabite_351
3.0 Serbian_427
2.6 Lithuanian_317
0.4 Spanish_452

Target: K16MDLP
Distance: 126.0878% / 1.26087814 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.0 German_173
32.0 Spanish_444
10.4 Sardinian_414
1.6 Spanish_440

Target: K16MDLP
Distance: 200.0456% / 2.00045622 | ADC: 0.5x RC
50.0 Spanish_440
25.8 Spanish_444
24.2 German_173


https://i.postimg.cc/HnD4p9n7/K16MDLP.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
K16MDLP,0,0.44,16.65,0,0,0.39,19.47,0.46,20.17,0.9 4,35.22,6.22,0,0,0,0


Distance to: K16MDLP
3.52293911 Spanish_440
4.87114976 Spanish_450
5.30725918 Spanish_449
5.92392606 Spanish_448
5.98535713 Spanish_443
6.09261028 Portuguese_385
6.82217707 Spanish_451
6.89909414 Spanish_441
7.20689253 Provencal_386
7.74398476 Spanish_453
7.91755644 French_156
8.00836438 Spanish_447
8.20652180 German_173
8.32358697 French_157
8.55904784 French_155
10.33481011 Spanish_446
10.42451438 Spanish_444
10.44878462 Italian_224
10.64396543 Swiss_457
10.72303129 Welsh_506
10.87199614 Spanish_442
11.09650395 French_159
11.31209088 German_175
11.38966198 Spanish_445
11.58886103 Corsican_108

132,870 models (20 ms):
2.626 K16MDLP = 97% Spanish_440 + 3% Mozabite_351
2.626 K16MDLP = 81% Spanish_440 + 19% Spanish_444
2.648 K16MDLP = 81% Spanish_450 + 19% Bulgarian_93
2.713 K16MDLP = 77% Spanish_450 + 23% Serbian_428
2.804 K16MDLP = 79% Spanish_450 + 21% Serbian_427
2.805 K16MDLP = 77% Spanish_450 + 23% Romanian_393
2.830 K16MDLP = 78% Spanish_450 + 22% Croat_111
2.844 K16MDLP = 78% Spanish_450 + 22% Montenegrian_349
2.876 K16MDLP = 79% Spanish_450 + 21% Bosnian_86
2.897 K16MDLP = 81% Spanish_450 + 19% Bulgarian_94
2.939 K16MDLP = 80% Spanish_450 + 20% Macedonian_324
2.948 K16MDLP = 79% Spanish_450 + 21% Croat_112
2.949 K16MDLP = 78% Spanish_450 + 22% Romanian_394
2.951 K16MDLP = 78% Spanish_450 + 22% Moldavian_345
2.959 K16MDLP = 81% Spanish_450 + 19% Hungarian_205
2.962 K16MDLP = 97% Spanish_440 + 3% Berber_78
3.032 K16MDLP = 83% Spanish_450 + 17% Cossack_109
3.065 K16MDLP = 97% Spanish_440 + 3% Saharawi_408
3.163 K16MDLP = 80% Spanish_450 + 20% Hungarian_204
3.182 K16MDLP = 79% Spanish_450 + 21% Slovenian_437
3.186 K16MDLP = 67% Spanish_450 + 33% German_173
3.190 K16MDLP = 73% Spanish_441 + 27% Hungarian_205
3.198 K16MDLP = 57% German_173 + 43% Spanish_444
3.212 K16MDLP = 97% Spanish_440 + 3% Algerian_10
3.237 K16MDLP = 76% Spanish_450 + 24% Italian_227
3.242 K16MDLP = 82% Spanish_450 + 18% Kosovar_289
3.276 K16MDLP = 74% Spanish_440 + 26% Spanish_450
3.286 K16MDLP = 84% Spanish_450 + 16% Gagauz_161
3.295 K16MDLP = 80% Spanish_449 + 20% Hungarian_205
3.303 K16MDLP = 67% Spanish_450 + 33% French_156
3.317 K16MDLP = 85% Spanish_450 + 15% Albanian_9
3.319 K16MDLP = 85% Spanish_450 + 15% Greek_183
3.321 K16MDLP = 72% Spanish_441 + 28% Hungarian_204
3.356 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Tunisian_475
3.367 K16MDLP = 73% Spanish_451 + 27% Hungarian_205
3.378 K16MDLP = 75% Spanish_441 + 25% Cossack_109
3.392 K16MDLP = 74% Spanish_450 + 26% Swiss_457
3.415 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Moroccan_350
3.426 K16MDLP = 79% Spanish_450 + 21% Austrian_38
3.429 K16MDLP = 90% Spanish_440 + 10% Spanish_447
3.453 K16MDLP = 88% Spanish_440 + 12% Portuguese_385
3.461 K16MDLP = 70% Spanish_441 + 30% Croat_112
3.470 K16MDLP = 87% Spanish_440 + 13% Spanish_449
3.470 K16MDLP = 79% Spanish_449 + 21% Hungarian_204
3.470 K16MDLP = 83% Spanish_450 + 17% Romanian_392
3.471 K16MDLP = 77% Spanish_441 + 23% Belarusian_West_76
3.475 K16MDLP = 82% Spanish_450 + 18% Slovak_436
3.476 K16MDLP = 91% Spanish_440 + 9% Spanish_451
3.477 K16MDLP = 69% Spanish_441 + 31% Slovenian_437
3.479 K16MDLP = 76% Spanish_450 + 24% German_175
3.483 K16MDLP = 70% Spanish_441 + 30% Croat_111
3.490 K16MDLP = 83% Spanish_450 + 17% Pole_381
3.491 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Belarusian_East_75
3.494 K16MDLP = 94% Spanish_440 + 6% German_173
3.497 K16MDLP = 94% Spanish_440 + 6% Spanish_453
3.497 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Latvian_Cesis_308
3.498 K16MDLP = 92% Spanish_440 + 8% Spanish_448
3.498 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Latvian_307
3.500 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Lithuanian_317
3.500 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Latvian_Dobele_309
3.500 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Belarusian_West_76
3.501 K16MDLP = 65% Spanish_450 + 35% Provencal_386
3.502 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Belarusian_3_74
3.502 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Belarusian_1_72
3.502 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Sorb_439
3.503 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Russians-West_405
3.503 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Finn_152
3.503 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Estonian_140
3.506 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Cossack_110
3.507 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Jew_253
3.507 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Russian_397
3.507 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Ukrainians_east_490
3.508 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Swede_456
3.509 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Ukrainians_north_491
3.510 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Russian_398
3.510 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Jew_247
3.510 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Belarusian_2_73
3.511 K16MDLP = 95% Spanish_440 + 5% Spanish_441
3.512 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Pole_382
3.512 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Pole_381
3.513 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Pole_384
3.513 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Hungarian_204
3.514 K16MDLP = 86% Spanish_450 + 14% Belarusian_West_76
3.514 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Finn_150
3.514 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Hungarian_205
3.515 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Pole_383
3.515 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Finn_149
3.516 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Russian_401
3.516 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Cossack_109
3.516 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Russian_cossack_404
3.516 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Ukrainian_489
3.516 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Ingrians_209
3.517 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Slovak_436
3.517 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Russian_402
3.517 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Erzya_Moksha_134
3.517 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Scottish_421
3.517 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% German_Lipsian_176
3.518 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Scottish_422
3.518 K16MDLP = 99% Spanish_440 + 1% Vepsa_500
3.518 K16MDLP = 98% Spanish_440 + 2% Welsh_506

~Elizabeth~
04-06-2025, 12:47 AM
Gedmatch.Com
MDLP K16 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle

(from my AncstryDNA kit)


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Dutch_Netherlands + English_Kent + English_Kent + Serbian_Serbia @ 1.218961
2 Dutch_Netherlands + English_Kent + English_Kent + Montenegrian_Montenegro @ 1.243738
3 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + English_Kent + English_Kent + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.249436
4 Dutch_Netherlands + English_Kent + English_Kent + Macedonian_Macedonia @ 1.299168
5 Italian_Bergamo + Pole_EastPoland + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.309985
6 English_Kent + Macedonian_Macedonia + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.313093
7 Dutch_Netherlands + French_France + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Serbian_Serbia @ 1.317659
8 Dutch_Netherlands + French_France + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Serbian_Serbia @ 1.330925
9 Dutch_Netherlands + English_Cornwall + English_Kent + Montenegrian_Montenegro @ 1.331527
10 English_Kent + German_Germany + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Serbian_Serbia @ 1.332924
11 Dutch_Netherlands + English_Cornwall + English_Kent + Serbian_Serbia @ 1.333024
12 English_Cornwall + German_Germany + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Serbian_Serbia @ 1.336174
13 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + English_Kent + English_Kent + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.347998
14 English_Cornwall + German_Germany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Serbian_Serbia @ 1.354001
15 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + English_Kent + English_Kent + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 1.354738
16 Dutch_Netherlands + Dutch_Netherlands + Italian_Bergamo + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 1.358946
17 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + English_Kent + English_Kent + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 1.368109
18 Dutch_Netherlands + Dutch_Netherlands + Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Bergamo @ 1.372397
19 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + English_Cornwall + English_Kent + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.376734
20 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + English_Kent + French_WestFrance + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 1.379291