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View Full Version : Which German region will you match? G25 Scaled Calculator



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02-05-2025, 09:41 AM
Instructions: Choose one of these countries as the proxy for your main ethnicity, choose only 1 sample and then add German Regions spreadsheet and run the calculator.

Example : If you are from France, select only France as your proxy and then add German regions and run.

No distance and Cycles 4X is required.

Countries:


Spanish,0.1115618,0.1460519,0.0408784,-0.0013134,0.0454907,-0.0023698,-0.002624,0.0019936,0.0248232,0.0321354,-0.0025033,0.0077729,-0.0143659,-0.0122514,0.0102306,-0.0009579,-0.0041411,-0.0010535,-0.0030578,-0.0011893,0.0040716,-0.0022989,-0.0020457,-0.0036604,0.001082
Portuguese,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
French,0.12721086,0.14198062,0.048014063,0.0197645 24,0.040432381,0.0057814444,0.0029431746,0.0034467 302,0.011018333,0.017977714,-0.0034797619,0.0069723968,-0.014141619,-0.009314619,0.011219556,0.0037524921,-0.0014093651,-0.00027952381,0.0011332857,0.00090714286,0.0027332 063,0.0017449048,-0.0013753016,0.0059923651,-0.0013742381
Italian,0.1163002,0.14852,0.0129668,-0.0258598,0.025639,-0.0095897,0.0008125,-0.0001415,0.0078555,0.0252532,-0.0006938,0.0052933,-0.0102699,-0.0033696,-0.004096,-0.0027533,0.0002277,0.0007897,0.0024085,-0.0041803,-0.0025247,0.0013363,-0.0001742,0.0019177,-0.0007624
Romanian,0.1243776,0.1340499,0.0344207,0.0084861,0 .0285368,0.0036508,0.0037814,0.005664,0.0019336,0. 0060138,-0.0031002,-0.0004632,-0.0002433,0.0085576,-0.0123011,-0.0018925,0.0047412,-0.0010596,0.0038737,-0.0030014,-0.006965,-0.0023269,0.0039663,0.0012598,-0.0007185
Austrian,0.1290886,0.1350056,0.054394,0.032737,0.0 347756,0.0125666,0.0072299,0.0062441,0.0028274,0.0 027551,-0.0038781,0.0007847,-0.0012942,0.0027849,0.0005029,0.0036968,0.0002223, 0.00079,0.0031793,0.0008385,-0.0009909,-0.0026548,0.0016675,0.0029627,-0.0010284
Greek,0.1174791,0.1433422,0.0080392,-0.0231069,0.018462,-0.0068699,0.0021198,0.0001204,0.0003363,0.0135128, 0.001606,0.0013434,-0.0023122,0.0063368,-0.0145601,-0.002346,0.0061306,0.0004597,0.0051704,-0.0047014,-0.0069842,0.0005799,0.0018213,0.0002267,-0.0014356
Albanian,0.12224,0.1435906,0.0175658,-0.0157675,0.0263936,-0.0073392,0.0024984,0.0014696,0.0015071,0.0173125,-0.0008633,0.0035731,-0.0062399,0.0062836,-0.0193081,-0.002097,0.0119988,0.0005368,0.0073997,-0.0061839,-0.0080877,0.0014089,0.0028347,0.0033581,-0.0030316
Latvian,0.1354494,0.122473,0.0887742,0.089471,0.04 3208,0.0340246,0.0125966,0.0140762,-0.002168,-0.0368842,-0.0035728,-0.0138178,0.0232208,0.031378,-0.010559,0.0040572,0.0027118,-0.0003802,0.0016088,0.0043022,-0.0027952,-0.0057128,0.0090708,-0.0093264,0.0026346
Estonian,0.1329454,0.1141455,0.087756,0.0833017,0. 0427771,0.0297575,0.0113745,0.0144457,0.0004091,-0.028447,0.000065,-0.0123489,0.0194597,0.0213591,-0.0066639,0.0017104,0.0002216,-0.0024832,0.0013451,0.0022137,0.001385,-0.0018672,0.0042644,0.0007471,0.0030535
Bulgarian,0.12475,0.1348622,0.0256442,0.0053618,0. 02462,-0.0008368,0.005499,0.0030458,-0.0002862,0.0069978,-0.0033452,0.0008992,0.002111,0.0086426,-0.0143046,-0.0022274,0.0070928,0.0020016,0.0031424,-0.0037018,-0.0046168,-0.000544,0.00281,-0.0024824,-0.0010776
Slovakian,0.1304414,0.128769,0.0626776,0.0514862,0 .0412384,0.0200244,0.006768,0.0077998,-0.0018408,-0.0115538,-0.0019162,-0.0037466,0.009871,0.0104318,-0.0091476,0.0092814,0.012934,0.0002534,0.0054304,0 .0023512,-0.0037186,-0.0020774,0.0043382,0.001928,-0.0018922
Slovenian,0.128051,0.1348115,0.0545882,0.040052,0. 0361608,0.0156875,0.0071678,0.0081345,0.001534,-0.010843,-0.003613,-0.003447,0.003828,0.0141408,-0.0045125,0.0008618,0.0078882,0.0021538,0.0027968, 0.001845,-0.0048665,-0.0036168,0.004252,0.0031932,-0.0010478
Hungarian,0.1270753,0.1296252,0.0553559,0.0364298, 0.0363804,0.0119326,0.0066138,0.0075326,0.0020597,-0.0046731,-0.0014731,-0.0027191,0.0038544,0.0087488,-0.0043722,0.0001231,-8.4e-05,-0.0003891,0.0026486,-0.0013221,-0.003378,0.0013865,0.0055286,0.0026939,0.0004789
Montenegrin,0.1263436,0.136487,0.039673,0.013889,0 .0318826,0.0074744,0.004512,0.0058612,0.0001228,0. 002515,-0.001429,-0.0006592,-0.000684,0.0105144,-0.0129208,0.0029436,0.0087096,-0.0013428,0.0070894,-0.0012758,-0.0048414,0.0012364,0.005497,0.0016388,0.0007904
Bosnian-Herzegovinian,0.1290754,0.1348622,0.0449528,0.0248 064,0.0312058,0.0098726,0.004841,0.0052152,-0.0024136,-0.001859,0.0004224,-0.0028176,0.00556,0.0162396,-0.0125404,0.0010078,0.0066756,-0.000583,0.004827,0.0030266,-0.0050912,-0.0034376,0.0075182,0.001229,-0.0016286
Croatian,0.128051,0.1338467,0.0518917,0.0314925,0. 035822,0.0125223,0.0060161,0.0067381,0.0018408,-0.0058862,-0.001153,-0.0023827,0.0047275,0.0127851,-0.0066365,-0.0022011,0.0027512,-0.0007223,0.0018101,-0.0007503,-0.005166,-0.0024236,0.0044246,-0.0010966,0.0001796
Serbian,0.1273111,0.1375873,0.0399434,0.0156978,0. 0320674,0.0048945,0.004653,0.0064112,0.0005079,0.0 014882,-0.0013776,-0.0014736,0.0028593,0.0122966,-0.0137462,-0.0017722,0.0058303,0.0002893,0.0059099,-0.0023574,-0.0077259,-0.0009975,0.0050203,-0.0002068,-0.0015786
Moldovan,0.1239316,0.1276665,0.0401454,0.0200645,0 .0276461,0.0083535,0.0071733,0.0066151,-0.0009739,-0.0020306,-0.0017438,-0.0019697,0.0050333,0.0140867,-0.0108867,-0.0037,0.0041195,-0.0003559,0.0034149,-0.0011285,-0.0040672,0.0002709,0.0035095,-0.0004848,-0.0003193
British,0.1318269,0.1368519,0.0617422,0.0442305,0. 0392918,0.0167889,0.0047669,0.0057286,0.005167,0.0 053515,-0.0048157,0.0055812,-0.0125253,-0.010529,0.0208293,0.0036295,-0.0103588,0.003883,0.0035516,0.0027759,0.005733,0. 003419,-0.0028615,0.0136349,0.0000017
Dutch,0.1274407,0.1341783,0.0602712,0.0440759,0.04 08435,0.0163974,0.0054023,0.0072633,0.0042087,0.00 19245,-0.0056347,0.0044274,-0.0098456,-0.0086761,0.01783,0.0056231,-0.0065161,0.0017477,0.0039087,0.0028161,0.00448,0. 0033848,-0.0000051,0.0138921,-0.0006557
Danish,0.1312479,0.1350654,0.0663779,0.0524377,0.0 413029,0.0194569,0.0051584,0.0074014,0.0034365,-0.002558,-0.0053588,0.0034802,-0.0085067,-0.0070935,0.0186691,0.0061171,-0.0065193,0.0020474,0.0032402,0.0043462,0.0056397, 0.0024349,0.0006923,0.013774,0.0002011
Icelandic,0.1326987,0.1336267,0.067819,0.0563097,0 .0393663,0.0229619,0.0033488,0.0085188,0.0026418,6 .07e-05,-0.0054806,0.0051702,-0.0063675,-0.0090831,0.0230725,0.0052924,-0.0116909,0.0019109,0.0017389,0.0038873,0.0092545, 0.0028028,-0.0008422,0.0140179,0.0008282
Swedish,0.1321925,0.1258855,0.0726424,0.0589715,0. 0402633,0.0207898,0.00638,0.0092943,0.003649,-0.0066633,-0.0042028,0.0005326,-0.0030453,-0.003352,0.0145933,0.0058655,-0.0051057,0.0016219,0.0029907,0.0050148,0.0067727, 0.0025256,0.0012532,0.011594,0.0002122
Norwegian,0.1320917,0.1294546,0.0680514,0.0545305, 0.0403228,0.0198709,0.0041595,0.0060919,0.006151,-0.002287,-0.0046444,0.004275,-0.0092355,-0.0101497,0.0202528,0.0065566,-0.0072004,0.0033097,0.0029758,0.0041082,0.0056806, 0.0040898,0.0008873,0.0141072,-6.88e-05
Finnish,0.1297493,0.0862668,0.0903451,0.0780944,0. 0302893,0.0227278,0.008918,0.0144536,0.0039484,-0.0249804,0.0045596,-0.0065976,0.0136426,0.0054458,0.0012083,0.0011304,-0.004139,-0.0000718,-0.0003942,0.0038116,0.0084113,-0.0000974,0.001627,0.0072859,0.0030062
German,0.1302993,0.137378,0.0573634,0.0378646,0.03 95656,0.0151457,0.0041766,0.0058969,0.0037462,0.00 16329,-0.0043315,0.0023163,-0.0053341,-0.0017442,0.0087384,0.0028225,-0.0032996,0.0016332,0.0035308,0.0011144,0.0029465, 0.0018009,0.0003368,0.0083597,7.35e-05
Cypriot,0.1010858,0.1466231,-0.0350541,-0.0685837,-0.0032825,-0.0231878,-0.0002686,-0.003967,-0.0017238,0.0167919,0.0032091,0.0013131,0.0005663, 0.0024969,-0.0125056,0.0002841,0.0051099,0.000555,0.0032203,-0.002257,-0.002151,0.0011953,-0.0015436,0.0026681,-0.000998
Maltese,0.0919124,0.1464901,-0.0024985,-0.0434031,0.0132714,-0.0178141,-0.0044064,-0.0009231,0.0110952,0.0205244,0.0061504,0.0009739,-0.0028989,-0.0007226,-0.0042581,0.0008784,-0.0004074,-0.0037688,-0.0004871,-0.0023606,-0.0061454,-0.0025968,0.0028192,0.0011899,0.002904
Swiss,0.1270653,0.1418015,0.0428531,0.0163379,0.03 95112,0.0062563,0.0020818,0.0044569,0.0094759,0.01 46579,-0.0011299,0.0053935,-0.0148534,-0.0092356,0.007333,-0.0000479,0.000224,0.0001957,0.0046621,-0.0009043,0.0026649,0.0032054,-0.0014324,0.0058282,-0.0018697
Polish,0.1318405,0.1292694,0.0698685,0.0577382,0.0 406754,0.0217127,0.0086781,0.0108626,-0.0009329,-0.0185524,-0.0043488,-0.0064187,0.013093,0.0186295,-0.0070244,-0.0005595,0.0015455,-7.41e-05,0.0026948,0.0012872,-0.0031286,-0.0031185,0.0056063,-0.0033328,-8.76e-05
Belarusian,0.1322625,0.1236239,0.0750219,0.0695957 ,0.0402331,0.0265691,0.0107321,0.0133226,-0.0002727,-0.0246017,-0.0026957,-0.0092119,0.0193259,0.0272309,-0.0112647,-0.0038009,-0.0009647,0.0003717,0.0041397,-0.0010504,-0.0042342,-0.0046081,0.0077235,-0.0068601,0.0006946
Lithuanian,0.1351696,0.1252487,0.0841702,0.0812399 ,0.0437402,0.0310126,0.010828,0.0158916,-0.003142,-0.0316931,-0.003967,-0.0118045,0.0215508,0.0293188,-0.0113644,0.0003735,0.003076,-0.0004276,0.0028895,0.0028811,-0.0041329,-0.0054201,0.0084179,-0.0077303,0.0001022
North_Macedonian,0.1247788,0.1425549,0.0223915,-0.0050065,0.0255046,-0.0007321,0.0047294,0.0021056,-0.0017896,0.0126654,0.0015834,0.0024914,-0.0045899,0.0106141,-0.0152006,-0.0010276,0.006731,-0.0013302,0.0067249,-0.0086604,-0.0112145,0.0023031,0.0035434,0.0022594,0.000075
Belgian,0.1291134,0.140854,0.0524826,0.0297052,0.0 384687,0.0123176,0.0035876,0.0052768,0.0065721,0.0 091847,-0.0045631,0.0046258,-0.011095,-0.0083033,0.0136852,0.00217,-0.0064932,0.0018707,0.0019317,0.0000291,0.0037018, 0.00298,-0.0000575,0.0086878,-0.0008103
Ukrainian,0.1307826,0.1239883,0.0666442,0.0558457, 0.0374636,0.0212435,0.0096826,0.0117227,-0.0015378,-0.0198346,-0.0029413,-0.0082997,0.0142387,0.022806,-0.0115085,-0.0021717,0.0026343,-0.000621,0.0031289,-0.0002674,-0.004654,-0.0046339,0.0049584,-0.0034359,0.0001763
Russian,0.1296111,0.1035022,0.0784032,0.0691997,0. 0309971,0.0228198,0.0104256,0.0130795,-0.0023312,-0.0272829,0.0015302,-0.0099492,0.0183057,0.0178558,-0.0115766,-0.0018082,0.0028815,-0.0015266,0.0004486,0.0017744,-0.002338,-0.0021182,0.0042214,-0.0033226,0.0001866
Czech,0.1311592,0.1318625,0.0604843,0.0472574,0.03 8658,0.0189217,0.0063451,0.0086623,0.0046724,-0.0088874,-0.0016862,-0.0038965,0.0060493,0.011772,0.0017435,0.0009995,-0.0006419,-0.0001462,0.0035679,0.0028956,-0.001267,-0.0001617,0.0065132,0.0039302,0.0015935
Luxembourger,0.1268748,0.1429867,0.0532494,0.02314 83,0.0405818,0.0095009,0.00141,0.0047384,0.0108261 ,0.0143965,-0.0031611,0.0063145,-0.0122695,-0.0093032,0.0120339,0.0017148,-0.0049545,0.0010979,0.0015922,0.0003667,0.0027284, 0.0028441,-0.0011421,0.0093345,-0.0019319
Liechtensteiner,0.1269125,0.1350655,0.047894,0.013 566,0.037084,0.007809,0.00517,0.000346,0.0052155,0 .0168565,-0.0027605,0.0074935,-0.0120415,-0.0078445,0.003732,0.002917,0.0035205,0.0032305,0. 0008795,0.0038145,-0.0009355,0.0044515,0.005793,0.002651,-0.003652
Sammarinese,0.1181035,0.146258,0.0134066,-0.0236644,0.0243714,-0.0073866,0.000423,-0.0005834,0.0065674,0.0217146,-0.0003236,0.0065716,-0.0090232,-0.0039318,-0.0031919,-0.0018724,0.0003026,0.0007339,0.0026554,-0.0037594,-0.0009149,0.0020204,0.0003416,0.0038662,-0.0013233
Vatican,0.1126849,0.1507336,0.0053336,-0.0325769,0.0201794,-0.0096814,0.0016114,-0.0008571,0.0066614,0.0227794,0.0014616,0.0027833,-0.0091533,-0.0062323,-0.0055839,0.0041481,0.0049733,0.0001086,0.0019034,-0.0017151,-0.0026559,0.0037447,0.0002641,0.0020313,-0.0003593
Monegasque,0.118227,0.1467199,0.0279637,-0.0066728,0.0325115,-0.0025886,0.0024032,0.0000311,0.0120206,0.0227029,-0.0009909,0.0069023,-0.0129863,-0.0098801,0.0034495,0.0007389,0.0013282,0.0022171, 0.0031827,-0.0028226,0.0008699,0.0016807,-0.0002767,0.002833,0.0011828
Andorran,0.1243042,0.1458978,0.0435888,0.0030281,0 .0425334,-0.0000001,-0.0003134,0.0039806,0.023026,0.0313978,-0.0028146,0.0088546,-0.014959,-0.0115259,0.0074532,0.0002541,-0.0011571,0.0022328,-0.0025192,-0.0028034,0.0035198,0.0003864,-0.0016948,-0.003841,0.0005938
Irish,0.1333605,0.1340977,0.0611689,0.0488642,0.03 7788,0.0193517,0.0032928,0.0047129,0.0035683,0.002 9265,-0.0069712,0.0058395,-0.0141892,-0.0140763,0.0259353,0.0052146,-0.0111456,0.0018944,0.0005974,0.0017758,0.0051145, 0.0012787,0.0002929,0.0144074,0.0006607
Turkish,0.0992867,0.0827498,-0.0258357,-0.037683,-0.0221735,-0.0119142,0.0051127,-0.0012618,-0.0214444,0.0001567,-0.0006346,0.0015448,-0.0039296,0.0024843,-0.0056523,-0.0004938,0.00391,0.000331,0.001339,-0.0007652,-0.0028856,0.0002624,-0.0016479,-0.0014934,-0.0001192
Georgian,0.1077115,0.1308397,-0.0548735,-0.0461845,-0.0379044,-0.0076778,0.008968,-0.006295,-0.0541246,-0.017902,0.0001209,0.0090376,-0.0195615,0.0025371,0.0013682,-0.0148539,0.0077105,-0.0040414,-0.0060691,0.0108329,0.009196,0.0024153,0.0011083,-0.0055189,-0.0009102
Azerbaijani,0.0921966,0.0893664,-0.0487742,-0.0405903,-0.0349124,-0.0063836,0.0040733,-0.0035896,-0.028997,-0.0091523,-0.004186,-0.0009326,0.0017013,-0.0021257,0.0026843,0.0064674,-0.0005504,0.0010699,0.0017738,-0.003974,-0.0012617,0.0002337,-0.0012872,-0.0008169,0.000612

German Regions:


German_Baden-Wurttemberg,0.12765255,0.13798842,0.048471891,0.02 4663482,0.035482156,0.0094578462,0.0036107041,0.00 36338846,0.0053562306,0.0084955384,-0.0034289722,0.0044452317,-0.0093849181,-0.0032451779,0.0067376279,0.0021129627,-0.0015375886,0.0006283849,0.0033359937,0.000200234 56,0.001302095,0.001034272,0.0018057899,0.00752423 37,-0.00015139234
German_Bavaria_Lower_Bavaria,0.128007,0.13749153,0 .049753071,0.026361824,0.035128845,0.010157427,0.0 04268847,0.0046984668,0.0055498393,0.0074604046,-0.0038178941,0.0046859991,-0.0099793066,-0.0058762339,0.0089574623,0.0031648506,-0.00055664012,0.00041890398,0.0020407639,0.0022881 763,0.0037900962,0.0018961467,0.00076367333,0.0064 724822,-0.00018774292
German_Bavaria_Lower_Franconia,0.12948315,0.142580 43,0.050732268,0.029800186,0.039762087,0.012878045 ,0.0039212649,0.0051292889,0.0049339779,0.00618134 74,-0.0058760135,0.0031839521,-0.008388727,0.0007738975,0.0092457259,0.0051052238 ,-0.0014092452,0.0016474933,0.004673878,0.00103467,0 .0018409906,-0.0014430187,0.0013385993,0.0080411754,0.000639713 43
German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen,0.1284600 2,0.13742966,0.055837375,0.037256031,0.0386225,0.0 14898797,0.0040501094,0.0052930625,0.0042406875,0. 00036164062,-0.0031944844,0.0016976563,-0.0042530469,0.0014622344,0.0048775,0.0017008594,-0.0024548281,0.0018666875,0.0030658594,0.000449375 ,-0.000050671875,0.0014645156,0.0016061094,0.0070132 656,-0.00019092187
German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia,0.12953162,0.13464 842,0.056883824,0.039775476,0.035123279,0.01600695 9,0.0047876037,0.0059551273,0.0016724449,-0.00070737795,-0.0043525518,0.0033658269,-0.0085631274,-0.0090061237,0.015322394,0.0034421928,-0.005170247,0.00030663044,0.00010159117,0.00239520 78,0.0027452019,0.0020359327,0.00072350098,0.00970 24295,-0.00068314667
German_Bavaria_Swabia,0.12879281,0.1392668,0.05058 3475,0.027839099,0.038314125,0.011363678,0.0043355 245,0.0054879604,0.0053652937,0.005404811,-0.0050850694,0.0022188558,-0.0055098933,0.0038374895,0.0045345265,0.004592456 7,0.0015375902,0.00090708842,0.0040171512,0.000982 28439,0.00058567318,-0.0015538558,0.0018614081,0.0042770541,0.000339429 5
German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate,0.13000245,0.13593 802,0.055266008,0.035871042,0.036611936,0.01401354 ,0.0049420207,0.0060691243,0.0030820009,0.00140607 18,-0.0041572953,0.0029743713,-0.0068230085,-0.0008298673,0.0087240825,0.0020411898,-0.0027564882,0.00079283945,0.0028752315,0.00171748 86,0.0018061141,0.00092028759,0.0020637491,0.00755 4233,-0.00053086886
German_Bavaria,0.13008205,0.14104757,0.052369306,0 .032068759,0.038424492,0.013100383,0.0041310605,0. 0053749245,0.0036761889,0.006267203,-0.0043709932,0.0042844756,-0.010994055,-0.0031669383,0.010727665,0.00089024443,-0.0044356908,0.0013334936,0.0035874266,0.001563020 5,0.0028768726,0.00016434615,0.0016194366,0.007418 5414,0.00031982944
German_Brandenburg,0.13107426,0.13132444,0.0659322 16,0.053778954,0.041199106,0.020594223,0.006284827 4,0.0084360165,0.0033216475,-0.0059089139,-0.0053621136,0.00019899303,-0.0014018343,0.0052223234,0.0093849262,0.005491203 1,-0.0033609946,0.0011695476,0.0039748816,0.002927196 2,0.0019454542,-0.0017064764,0.0034173158,0.006383119,0.001357432
German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg,0.13376403,0.132541 11,0.071361217,0.058780419,0.043212415,0.022930245 ,0.0065248845,0.0093182478,0.0032724433,-0.0077837261,-0.0057855452,0.000164571,-0.0014622331,0.00055581023,0.012842056,0.005962741 9,-0.0045577341,0.0015163569,0.0023038555,0.003195017 7,0.0030449686,0.00012610643,0.0015206002,0.008708 8106,0.00029693917
German_East_Prussia_Masuria,0.13238618,0.12602058, 0.07582883,0.065876383,0.042409363,0.025218272,0.0 091874792,0.01271249,0.00085117636,-0.01989863,-0.0042076204,-0.0077387051,0.013167867,0.020503796,-0.0052770343,0.0018811002,0.0017855439,-0.00027585646,0.0025793137,0.0023625887,-0.00189517,-0.0047428349,0.0052287197,-0.0020045931,0.0010741716
German_East_Prussia_Memelland,0.13458998,0.1242847 8,0.079993343,0.072127643,0.045481653,0.027710591, 0.0097415102,0.01399043,0.00079266134,-0.023445285,-0.0054587002,-0.009977743,0.016741045,0.033722517,-0.0079690502,0.0021667214,0.0027254373,-0.00016357459,0.0046177196,0.0044992957,-0.0016527426,-0.0080937946,0.0070130585,-0.0045343098,0.0023306867
German_East,0.13120709,0.13331127,0.069390182,0.05 1445091,0.037825182,0.021271545,0.0057040909,0.012 796818,0.0038116364,-0.0081012727,-0.0038381818,-0.0020164545,0.000081090909,-0.00033763636,0.0064900909,0.004713,-7.145878e-20,-0.0011977273,0.0059991818,0.0055368182,0.005671909 1,-0.00040472727,0.0045938182,0.0054770909,-0.00037009091
German_Hamburg,0.12896598,0.13390028,0.062599154,0 .047478527,0.040055203,0.019570434,0.0075084506,0. 0087184232,0.003210342,-0.0023601664,-0.004061208,0.00045373787,-0.0032972542,-0.0010843359,0.010579435,0.0042176322,-0.0044230758,0.0025495568,0.0040237764,0.001251047 9,0.0021989864,0.0019609983,0.0023223057,0.0079406 636,-0.00076322927
German_Hesse,0.1280818,0.13914392,0.052661989,0.02 7636642,0.038857843,0.010780773,0.0037542693,0.004 4618279,0.0076751858,0.01038952,-0.0035892724,0.0048163177,-0.010500007,-0.0060209615,0.0091921401,0.0038749605,-0.0020451282,0.0015219873,0.0034513079,-0.00013212365,0.0020966445,0.00093231253,0.0011326 144,0.0077736716,0.00039835162
German_Lower_Saxony,0.1322647,0.13504482,0.0647066 37,0.05146246,0.040172915,0.020240163,0.0048428201 ,0.006737015,0.0024415023,-0.0024220375,-0.005520426,0.0036797118,-0.008253442,-0.0066629181,0.019060978,0.0071004912,-0.006319104,0.0016752066,0.003021322,0.0033861693, 0.0041263465,0.002131275,0.0013208164,0.013258454, 0.000026004303
Frisian_Germany,0.13281616,0.1364288,0.068648854,0 .055466856,0.044187138,0.022315427,0.0049090123,0. 007055986,0.0056382139,-0.001255552,-0.0073701329,0.0038032491,-0.0091774809,-0.005380163,0.023031804,0.0090081017,-0.007805875,0.0020576153,0.0028135614,0.0048064279 ,0.0066487331,0.00037332292,0.00080180792,0.013329 156,0.0012514137
German_Lower_Silesia,0.13221396,0.13262234,0.06420 418,0.04616267,0.038628148,0.016734747,0.007940114 9,0.0066453311,0.0026947131,-0.0060292547,-0.0043445757,-0.0011532005,0.00027399177,0.0085748694,-0.00081957363,0.0022674677,0.0038378838,0.00140574 3,0.0063142961,0.00083866517,0.000017144398,-0.00099183955,0.0052600673,0.002745576,0.000047994 824
German_Mecklenburg,0.13294958,0.1329378,0.06881014 3,0.056513031,0.041991782,0.022248016,0.0062629424 ,0.0086142048,0.002519882,-0.0079260868,-0.0062801378,0.00021876738,-0.0020261016,0.0043361502,0.012582406,0.0060726759 ,-0.0036660901,0.0011998599,0.003298815,0.0044953665 ,0.0033376304,-0.0012075425,0.0028867424,0.0085975983,0.000753670 33
German_Mennonite_Russia,0.132758,0.132042,0.063546 ,0.049034,0.037502,0.018618,0.006082,0.007707,-0.000374,-0.005811,-0.003782,0.002311,-0.004533,0.000674,0.010649,0.00084,-0.005402,0.001179,0.002946,0.003405,0.002184,0.001 472,0.003226,0.007017,-0.000256
German_North_Bohemia,0.13038148,0.13402051,0.06027 6306,0.041411939,0.040126058,0.015813344,0.0059131 735,0.0073330725,0.0043249574,-0.0014680395,-0.0046333767,-0.00023249729,-0.0017481551,0.0075954979,0.0026287914,0.003188265 2,0.00048297548,0.00021386,0.0038918382,0.00191962 44,0.00008269297,-0.0024916083,0.0038352948,0.0046427965,0.000944510 89
German_North_Moravia,0.13046776,0.13745625,0.05682 4606,0.038780854,0.040221749,0.016400983,0.0052958 362,0.0062413846,0.0035561836,0.00034791844,-0.0066440114,0.0018722158,-0.0054575395,0.0064982901,0.0099228701,0.004699990 3,-0.0020262686,0.0009407837,0.0030027003,0.002984753 6,0.0024485947,-0.0021699054,0.0016707982,0.0067392043,0.000735254 2
German_North_Rhine-Westphalia,0.13154888,0.13770513,0.057754286,0.038 566437,0.039561147,0.014718851,0.0045345944,0.0051 625813,0.0039391583,0.0036767913,-0.005083078,0.0046340357,-0.0096217815,-0.0038493859,0.013416783,0.0037203493,-0.0048315153,0.0016518017,0.0035981898,0.001717872 8,0.0023460507,0.0015941292,0.0018511221,0.0109224 39,-0.00054557433
German_North_Rhine,0.12929111,0.1403049,0.05235653 2,0.031170834,0.038963253,0.012833703,0.0038726266 ,0.0043349307,0.0055202656,0.0086815791,-0.0049232518,0.0056996761,-0.011405054,-0.0041426381,0.01246059,0.0031005318,-0.0043038856,0.0015554731,0.0033549844,0.000636286 38,0.0031024943,0.00070352797,0.00089303016,0.0078 649356,0.00019230834
German_North,0.13224032,0.13348243,0.064858498,0.0 50006266,0.040201601,0.019778454,0.0055092188,0.00 70856844,0.0032558131,-0.0024247428,-0.0056254189,0.0039573141,-0.0081286058,-0.0045385746,0.017216159,0.0044433957,-0.0076462966,0.0019262745,0.0034636565,0.003011096 6,0.0039947751,0.0026018029,0.0017522361,0.0131210 81,0.000097081137
German_Pomerania,0.13273189,0.13112425,0.068230457 ,0.056086454,0.041214871,0.021867803,0.0069779387, 0.0095782737,0.0013938983,-0.010552381,-0.0053527846,-0.0019356282,0.0020042273,0.010994706,0.005470056, 0.0029311812,-0.0018622136,0.00051716138,0.003265852,0.003680084 4,0.0017067062,-0.0025840333,0.0039087103,0.0038653012,0.000973942 71
German_Rhineland-Palatinate,0.12877804,0.13967813,0.052566483,0.029 05694,0.038211705,0.01139598,0.0034960307,0.004657 9789,0.0064833331,0.0087950742,-0.0040491327,0.0052474918,-0.011381638,-0.007391737,0.012740324,0.003668474,-0.0042308623,0.0013498264,0.0030577818,0.001049000 1,0.0025572908,0.001827031,0.00094084951,0.0096815 691,-0.00031364999
German_Saarland,0.12992273,0.14262918,0.051923936, 0.024619841,0.040983019,0.009517666,0.003098696,0. 0044294351,0.0095067969,0.013085635,-0.0040515913,0.0053286187,-0.011363341,-0.0057331431,0.0088879763,0.0028583835,-0.0031079469,0.0015602536,0.0043989382,-0.00075674013,0.0008497625,0.0016056314,0.00112034 81,0.0090718294,-0.00086838923
German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis,0.12804991,0.1346953 ,0.061235498,0.04272859,0.039923895,0.016850343,0. 0055910473,0.0072884172,0.0042229121,-0.0028911034,-0.0048721337,0.00084812147,-0.002025765,0.0061055091,0.0058128642,0.0032496159 ,-0.0012570926,0.00011316333,0.0031443318,0.00217861 9,0.0012383688,-0.0015924056,0.0032213084,0.0050322893,0.000715319 31
German_Saxony_Leipzig,0.1308965,0.13849275,0.06109 3625,0.04998425,0.0381225,0.01614075,0.00631575,0. 007038,0.00219875,-0.0049205,-0.00521675,-0.001779875,-0.000037125,0.008223,0.001306375,-0.003132375,-0.0079045,0.001187625,0.005310625,-0.000750375,0.000623875,-0.00111275,0.001771625,0.00161175,-0.00031425
German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia,0 .13150755,0.135815,0.057165965,0.035397026,0.03892 3548,0.013465102,0.0055158366,0.0067798815,0.00308 03558,0.00089233823,-0.003698071,0.0014661957,-0.002539148,0.0065923263,0.00034603976,0.001234656 2,0.0007812612,0.0012043914,0.0050143124,0.0003117 1163,-0.0012357033,-0.0006029733,0.003579597,0.0043724158,-0.00045699313
German_Saxony-Anhalt,0.13268698,0.13413607,0.062306318,0.0456691 54,0.039835048,0.017505525,0.0059732443,0.00722836 28,0.002185213,-0.004322819,-0.0048443745,0.00050718601,-0.0018182891,0.0063500961,0.0049905778,0.003267351 7,-0.0017196011,0.0014416457,0.0051132492,0.001211160 8,-0.00032809552,-0.00028153468,0.003606861,0.0095999308,-0.00071321922
German_Saxony,0.13135628,0.13659377,0.060163452,0. 042657362,0.040492598,0.017534492,0.0060431374,0.0 070207348,0.0026707302,-0.003107334,-0.0052383884,-0.00013349684,-0.00074156157,0.010069039,0.0032924769,0.003596105 2,-0.00020484442,0.00071168309,0.0046280057,0.0013017 86,0.00032812453,-0.0028536594,0.0038687567,0.0050270433,0.001019069 3
German_Schleswig-Holstein,0.13203389,0.13546323,0.065830721,0.05087 4935,0.04173978,0.019887167,0.0048920451,0.0068569 768,0.0042766486,-0.00083220605,-0.0055834401,0.0037476124,-0.0086863565,-0.0051577427,0.018638893,0.006253416,-0.0072731932,0.0020143551,0.0034206641,0.003533761 9,0.004888777,0.0013239541,0.0015172454,0.01244560 7,0.00070856794
German_South,0.12813574,0.13972944,0.050430877,0.0 27355087,0.038364123,0.0099204151,0.0039483975,0.0 05040605,0.0065290136,0.0085832447,-0.0041300098,0.0044415971,-0.0095246946,-0.002262726,0.0085536395,0.0021007555,-0.0029391046,0.00083985861,0.0034527667,0.00062274 938,0.0017897071,0.00058061521,0.0014864525,0.0072 528288,-0.000098217215
German_Southwest,0.12974587,0.13854146,0.052565476 ,0.03290902,0.03739661,0.013708875,0.0044002798,0. 0047845668,0.0036929383,0.0051560626,-0.0050311601,0.0044493822,-0.0095176415,-0.0028455678,0.010553737,0.0035674514,-0.0025693046,0.0011993151,0.0032780363,0.001277825 6,0.0030321784,0.00037383486,0.0012109591,0.008334 4998,0.00012939966
German_Thuringia,0.13152451,0.13279454,0.060399746 ,0.045088726,0.038249938,0.01725109,0.0063458431,0 .0074407759,0.0016312364,-0.0057854413,-0.0042528835,-0.00017332081,-0.00047361926,0.0080369162,0.0034638811,0.00203883 68,-0.0010295236,0.00033992452,0.0029588045,0.00170071 34,0.00041588397,-0.00072789216,0.0032495553,0.0049809658,-0.0000032869492
German_Upper_Silesia,0.13305638,0.12730764,0.07330 4225,0.061433109,0.042606575,0.023807295,0.0085562 041,0.011942857,0.0015636445,-0.016628632,-0.0044084655,-0.0069499104,0.010510045,0.024222777,-0.005531213,0.0019839524,0.0019653807,-0.00025973486,0.0048757593,0.0030517758,-0.001374286,-0.0061321891,0.006588031,-0.00063504996,0.0021330864
German_Upper_Swabia,0.13007098,0.13775223,0.050633 165,0.028489985,0.035153764,0.011357777,0.00435096 5,0.0049389478,0.0027357215,0.0062371197,-0.002785891,0.004732345,-0.010646877,-0.006356625,0.0092004781,0.0011893484,-0.0035509876,0.001492152,0.0032417897,-0.00002290622,0.0015140643,0.0023467363,0.00126777 4,0.0091233584,-0.0008299308
German_West_Bohemia,0.12936783,0.13724494,0.055376 899,0.034368441,0.038574945,0.013367372,0.00455233 99,0.0066405818,0.0054548971,0.0038895199,-0.0043567238,0.0030591451,-0.0072931743,-0.00087021707,0.0083693873,0.0034098324,-0.0012928046,0.00058854204,0.0031398749,0.00226508 08,0.0027678767,-0.00019522444,0.0017556354,0.004898104,0.000750163 87
German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship,0.13253825,0.132 71227,0.068999565,0.056423297,0.04215869,0.0221316 31,0.0066288544,0.0092254098,0.0030536261,-0.0079182922,-0.0052321728,-0.00069871988,-0.00052026258,0.0067348062,0.009663326,0.002649881 5,-0.004857687,0.00052343108,0.0020753858,0.003318217 8,0.0032951239,-0.0014776036,0.0025193791,0.0047697896,0.000918226 37
German_West_Prussia,0.13209374,0.12710415,0.070083 395,0.057723567,0.039015985,0.021515524,0.00783421 68,0.010569311,0.0018015915,-0.013267698,-0.0034964543,-0.003609251,0.0064774173,0.0082857601,0.0009279138 8,0.002263891,-0.00050551852,-0.00028093359,0.001670704,0.0018902873,-0.00060689795,-0.00075219128,0.0037220112,0.0017596446,-0.00023418437
German_Western_Pomerania,0.13231147,0.13339083,0.0 66303834,0.053826641,0.04043277,0.021449879,0.0057 612112,0.008119076,0.0018029844,-0.006956932,-0.0057219963,0.00079968092,-0.0037892709,0.0032891314,0.01386661,0.0034808171,-0.0058589583,0.00088222406,0.0023615158,0.00419359 84,0.0037045775,-0.00089396074,0.0026787291,0.0076407941,0.00063291 382
German_Westphalia,0.13175312,0.13433368,0.06319614 5,0.04787837,0.038678049,0.018666544,0.0051906167, 0.0066936765,0.0027417477,-0.0018693379,-0.004916688,0.0037392222,-0.0082857135,-0.0061314317,0.017150301,0.0043547719,-0.0066608064,0.0012153565,0.0020038148,0.003363186 2,0.0041528789,0.002091711,0.0015644399,0.01111674 1,-0.00017338284


Compatibility Samples:


SSA:Africa_East,-0.4120465,0.0778934,-0.0136845,-0.0405073,-0.0014255,-0.0198496,-0.0074928,0.0010762,0.086392,-0.0715938,-0.009869,0.0013155,-0.0134026,-0.00056,0.0114288,-0.010683,0.0111454,0.0000996,0.0071217,-0.0070649,0.0011948,0.0026859,-0.0008342,0.0005439,0.0024254
SSA:Africa_West,-0.6281879,0.0625108,0.0208777,0.0172737,0.0042526, 0.0138418,-0.0263738,0.0284804,-0.0368171,0.0271579,-0.0002959,0.0000777,0.0163837,-0.0000869,0.0020422,-0.0013559,-0.0009264,0.0001268,0.0022642,0.0023375,0.0035881, 0.0041018,-0.0008796,-0.0028018,-0.0052761
SSA:Africa_South,-0.6253838,0.0643213,0.0194908,0.0183814,-0.0002943,0.007658,0.0399943,-0.0220626,-0.0196612,0.0135256,0.0025683,-0.0115231,-0.0086809,0.0025049,-0.0045667,0.0026361,-0.000516,0.0656379,-0.0255711,0.0034219,-0.0060718,-0.0005516,0.0021302,-0.0000022,-0.0002521
Northern_Amerindian,0.053383,-0.3078409,0.1126585,0.0870108,-0.1035475,-0.0176815,-0.2448809,-0.2933953,-0.0077071,-0.0163222,-0.0006929,-0.0049433,0.0030624,0.0120878,-0.0098126,-0.0008751,0.00246,0.0014252,0.0053674,0.0025324,-0.0005159,0.0003379,0.0006902,0.0013697,0.0022313
Central_Amerindian,0.056749,-0.294939,0.110766,0.090256,-0.104855,-0.015698,-0.275835,-0.328635,-0.014083,-0.016037,-0.001717,-0.001006,0.001083,0.019995,-0.008783,0.00375,0.007916,-0.000977,-0.001347,-0.001947,-0.002603,0.005617,0.001004,3.4e-05,0.000359
Southeast_Amerindian,0.0493502,-0.3079958,0.11785,0.1076522,-0.1139774,-0.0208969,-0.3061684,-0.3640234,-0.0102994,-0.0158545,0.0037468,-0.0102233,-0.0007858,0.0177336,-0.0152397,-0.0002464,0.0057184,-0.0029951,-0.0036905,-0.0000535,-0.0016666,0.0110669,-0.0016019,-0.0057666,-0.0046875
Southwest_Amerindian,0.0542495,-0.2856121,0.1142173,0.0894674,-0.1041784,-0.0176056,-0.2837217,-0.3398537,-0.0116658,-0.0130957,-0.0032639,-0.0021265,0.0006945,0.0221642,-0.0049538,0.0072925,0.0081845,-0.0002175,0.0003618,0.0004579,-0.0025483,0.0070109,-0.0005219,0.0012733,-0.0010876

Dušan
02-05-2025, 09:50 AM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.4757% / 0.02475698
86.0 Serbian
14.0 German_East_Prussia_Memelland

Grace O'Malley
02-05-2025, 10:04 AM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6986% / 0.01698615
61.4 Irish
36.8 Frisian_Germany
1.8 German_East

West Frisian
02-05-2025, 11:33 AM
Target: Jansen_Scaled
Distance: 0.4402% / 0.00440178
52.4 German_Lower_Saxony
40.6 Frisian_Germany
7.0 Dutch

Not a Cop
02-05-2025, 11:43 AM
Target: Rutger_scaled
Distance: 0.0111% / 0.01112662
50.0 Russian
26.2 Frisian_Germany
23.8 German_East_Prussia_Memelland

Athalafuns
02-05-2025, 11:46 AM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.8546% / 0.01854614
82.6 Spanish
11.0 German_Bavaria_Lower_Bavaria
6.4 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia

nittionia
02-05-2025, 11:52 AM
I used Irish as my proxy to give it enough range for my ancestry

Target: nittionia_scaled
Distance: 2.5147% / 0.02514723
51.6 Frisian_Germany
23.4 German_Hesse
15.2 Irish
9.8 German_Saarland

Target: nittioniasdad_scaled
Distance: 1.4237% / 0.01423698
30.4 German_East
26.6 Irish
18.2 German_Hesse
16.2 German_West_Prussia
8.6 German_Saarland

leachim_x
02-05-2025, 02:01 PM
Distance to: Leachim_K36
0.00679689 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
0.01160107 German
0.01289961 German_Southwest
0.01418037 German_Bavaria
0.01423095 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate
0.01436632 German_North_Rhine
0.01468064 German_West_Bohemia
0.01517323 German_North_Moravia
0.01593566 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
0.01622979 German_Bavaria_Lower_Franconia
0.01679487 German_Westphalia
0.01682453 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
0.01720094 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.01855963 German_Schleswig-Holstein
0.01858535 German_North
0.01892836 German_Hamburg
0.01911041 German_Upper_Swabia
0.01917925 German_Hesse
0.01969054 German_Lower_Saxony
0.01986022 German_South
0.02179672 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.02198102 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.02204341 German_Bavaria_Lower_Bavaria
0.02231850 German_Saarland
0.02241775 German_Mennonite_Russia

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0068% / 0.00679689
100.0 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0068% / 0.00679481
99.0 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
1.0 German_North

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0056% / 0.00555156
32.0 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
26.4 Frisian_Germany
24.4 German_Bavaria_Lower_Franconia
14.4 German_Saarland
2.8 German_Saxony-Anhalt

I have tried the reverse approach. I deleted all the German samples that didn't make sense according to the family tree and then added international samples that could be considered due to geographical proximity or historical events (30-year war, Romans, etc.).

Samples:
https://i.ibb.co/MkwGPBDk/grafik.png
Small Map:
https://i.ibb.co/TxhHVYqS/grafik.png
Large Map:
https://i.ibb.co/DDRLvBPw/grafik.png

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.6774% / 0.00677387 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
97.2 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
2.8 Danish

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.6773% / 0.00677331 | R4P
95.4 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
3.6 Danish
1.0 German_Bavaria_Swabia

It seems like the North_Rhine and NRW samples were very heavily influenced by Romans and are "distorted" to the south. The 1/4 SW Ancestry portion isn't even necessary for my model.

Last approach eliminating more and more samples...including NR + NRW

in the end it looked like this:

Samples:
https://i.ibb.co/mCDJfPZX/grafik.png (https://ibb.co/3yr1gP6M)
Results:
Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0092% / 0.00922412
60.9 German_Southwest
39.1 German_Westphalia

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0091% / 0.00914564
46.7 German_Westphalia
40.6 German_Southwest
7.8 French
4.9 German_Bavaria_Swabia

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0091% / 0.00914564
46.8 German_Westphalia
40.4 German_Southwest
7.8 French
5.0 German_Bavaria_Swabia

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0091% / 0.00907408
38.8 German_Southwest
31.3 German_Westphalia
17.6 Dutch
8.6 German_Bavaria_Swabia
3.7 French

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0089% / 0.00890903
35.6 German_Bavaria
26.2 German_Westphalia
25.2 Dutch
13.0 German_Bavaria_Swabia

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0086% / 0.00864670
49.5 German_Bavaria
30.9 Norwegian
14.8 German_Bavaria_Swabia
4.8 Dutch

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0081% / 0.00808909 | ADC: 0.5x RC
35.2 Danish
33.1 German_Bavaria
31.7 German_Southwest

cass
02-05-2025, 02:14 PM
Still the local Slavic variant

Distance to: cass
0.01157161 German_Pomerania
0.01285823 German_West_Prussia
0.01411828 Czech
0.01781578 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.01815717 German_Lower_Silesia
0.01894581 German_Thuringia
0.01901229 German_Brandenburg
0.01901762 Polish
0.02054908 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.02107020 German_Upper_Silesia
0.02122589 German_Saxony
0.02141360 German_East
0.02161044 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.02228035 German_Mecklenburg
0.02319781 Slovakian
0.02339274 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.02349457 German_North_Bohemia
0.02407011 German_Western_Pomerania
0.02478506 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
0.02532607 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.02560741 Ukrainian
0.02576026 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.02613238 Slovenian
0.02715580 German_Hamburg
0.02864302 Hungarian


Target: cass
Distance: 0.8141% / 0.00814053 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.2 German_Pomerania
28.0 Czech
16.4 German_Upper_Silesia
10.4 Polish
7.0 German_Saxony_Leipzig

ScandinavianCelt
02-05-2025, 02:44 PM
With only Swedish, first, plus Amerindian & African:

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 0.0196% / 0.01959980
62.9 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
31.7 Swedish
4.2 Frisian_Germany
0.7 Northern_Amerindian
0.5 SSA

Target: K36.RSIDMerged.Gedmatch.Brad
Distance: 0.0077% / 0.00774847
43.7 Frisian_Germany
33.6 German_Western_Pomerania
16.6 German_Bavaria
5.6 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.5 Southeast_Amerindian

---------------------------------------------------
all samples in:

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 0.0177% / 0.01774668
42.3 Irish
14.4 Norwegian
14.4 Slovenian
11.4 Icelandic
8.3 Finnish
4.6 Georgian
3.8 Swedish
0.5 SSA
0.2 Southeast_Amerindian
0.1 Portuguese

Target: K36.RSIDMerged.Gedmatch.Brad
Distance: 0.0067% / 0.00669680
56.5 Frisian_Germany
13.8 British
9.7 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
6.8 Icelandic
6.1 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
4.0 Georgian
2.7 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.4 Southeast_Amerindian

leachim_x
02-05-2025, 03:26 PM
Still the local Slavic variant

Distance to: cass
0.01157161 German_Pomerania
0.01285823 German_West_Prussia
0.01411828 Czech
0.01781578 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.01815717 German_Lower_Silesia
0.01894581 German_Thuringia
0.01901229 German_Brandenburg
0.01901762 Polish
0.02054908 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.02107020 German_Upper_Silesia
0.02122589 German_Saxony
0.02141360 German_East
0.02161044 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.02228035 German_Mecklenburg
0.02319781 Slovakian
0.02339274 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.02349457 German_North_Bohemia
0.02407011 German_Western_Pomerania
0.02478506 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
0.02532607 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.02560741 Ukrainian
0.02576026 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.02613238 Slovenian
0.02715580 German_Hamburg
0.02864302 Hungarian


Target: cass
Distance: 0.8141% / 0.00814053 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.2 German_Pomerania
28.0 Czech
16.4 German_Upper_Silesia
10.4 Polish
7.0 German_Saxony_Leipzig

Overfitting for you :) (Far) East-Ger and most of the Polish has too similar admixture and also intermixing.

Distance to: Polish
0.01141800 German_Upper_Silesia
0.01263154 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
0.01793069 German_West_Prussia
0.02349618 German_Pomerania
0.02745596 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
0.03111520 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.03356483 German_Brandenburg
0.03412501 German_East
0.03604837 German_Mecklenburg
0.03642989 German_North_Bohemia
0.03796701 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.03841685 German_Western_Pomerania
0.03954333 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.05247716 German_West_Bohemia
0.06290810 German_Upper_Swabia

I suppose the purpose of this thread is to see which “central european” population group you can complement your main ethnicity with...proxy wise. You could run this again and eliminate all (far) eastern German samples or alternatively even the Polish sample...just for fun ;-)

ScandinavianCelt
02-05-2025, 03:37 PM
Distance to: Leachim_K36
0.00679689 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
0.01160107 German
0.01289961 German_Southwest
0.01418037 German_Bavaria
0.01423095 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate
0.01436632 German_North_Rhine
0.01468064 German_West_Bohemia
0.01517323 German_North_Moravia
0.01593566 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
0.01622979 German_Bavaria_Lower_Franconia
0.01679487 German_Westphalia
0.01682453 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
0.01720094 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.01855963 German_Schleswig-Holstein
0.01858535 German_North
0.01892836 German_Hamburg
0.01911041 German_Upper_Swabia
0.01917925 German_Hesse
0.01969054 German_Lower_Saxony
0.01986022 German_South
0.02179672 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.02198102 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.02204341 German_Bavaria_Lower_Bavaria
0.02231850 German_Saarland
0.02241775 German_Mennonite_Russia

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0068% / 0.00679689
100.0 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0068% / 0.00679481
99.0 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
1.0 German_North

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0056% / 0.00555156
32.0 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
26.4 Frisian_Germany
24.4 German_Bavaria_Lower_Franconia
14.4 German_Saarland
2.8 German_Saxony-Anhalt

I have tried the reverse approach. I deleted all the German samples that didn't make sense according to the family tree and then added international samples that could be considered due to geographical proximity or historical events (30-year war, Romans, etc.).

Samples:
https://i.ibb.co/MkwGPBDk/grafik.png
Small Map:
https://i.ibb.co/TxhHVYqS/grafik.png
Large Map:
https://i.ibb.co/DDRLvBPw/grafik.png

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.6774% / 0.00677387 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
97.2 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
2.8 Danish

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.6773% / 0.00677331 | R4P
95.4 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
3.6 Danish
1.0 German_Bavaria_Swabia

It seems like the North_Rhine and NRW samples were very heavily influenced by Romans and are "distorted" to the south. The 1/4 SW Ancestry portion isn't even necessary for my model.

Last approach eliminating more and more samples...including NR + NRW

in the end it looked like this:

Samples:
https://i.ibb.co/mCDJfPZX/grafik.png (https://ibb.co/3yr1gP6M)
Results:
Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0092% / 0.00922412
60.9 German_Southwest
39.1 German_Westphalia

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0091% / 0.00914564
46.7 German_Westphalia
40.6 German_Southwest
7.8 French
4.9 German_Bavaria_Swabia

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0091% / 0.00914564
46.8 German_Westphalia
40.4 German_Southwest
7.8 French
5.0 German_Bavaria_Swabia

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0091% / 0.00907408
38.8 German_Southwest
31.3 German_Westphalia
17.6 Dutch
8.6 German_Bavaria_Swabia
3.7 French

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0089% / 0.00890903
35.6 German_Bavaria
26.2 German_Westphalia
25.2 Dutch
13.0 German_Bavaria_Swabia

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0086% / 0.00864670
49.5 German_Bavaria
30.9 Norwegian
14.8 German_Bavaria_Swabia
4.8 Dutch

Target: Leachim_K36
Distance: 0.0081% / 0.00808909 | ADC: 0.5x RC
35.2 Danish
33.1 German_Bavaria
31.7 German_Southwest


Rhino would be a good nickname, no?

cass
02-05-2025, 03:42 PM
Overfitting for you :) (Far) East-Ger and most of the Polish has too similar admixture and also intermixing.

Distance to: Polish
0.01141800 German_Upper_Silesia
0.01263154 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
0.01793069 German_West_Prussia
0.02349618 German_Pomerania
0.02745596 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
0.03111520 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.03356483 German_Brandenburg
0.03412501 German_East
0.03604837 German_Mecklenburg
0.03642989 German_North_Bohemia
0.03796701 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.03841685 German_Western_Pomerania
0.03954333 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.05247716 German_West_Bohemia
0.06290810 German_Upper_Swabia

I suppose the purpose of this thread is to see which “central european” population group you can complement your main ethnicity with...proxy wise. You could run this again and eliminate all (far) eastern German samples or alternatively even the Polish sample...just for fun ;-)


That's a smart idea.

Theoretical state of possessions in the early Middle Ages.

Target: cass
Distance: 0.7635% / 0.00763455
31.0 German_Saxony
29.4 Belarusian
15.8 Icelandic
10.6 Latvian
8.4 German_Bavaria_Swabia
1.8 Frisian_Germany
1.6 Cypriot
1.0 Montenegrin
0.4 Andorran

I suspect the Icelander is a proxy for the remnants of the Goths.

nittionia
02-05-2025, 03:47 PM
I got a thumbs down what do I do

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZG9tbXpjYWN6Y3F5cXNtN2drcDZ5MDR kZXkycWRsaTEycnNlOXV0OSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/FcTdv3xQKhCIE/giphy.gif

Solitude
02-05-2025, 03:53 PM
Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 2.5338% / 0.02533820
61.4 Portuguese
24.2 SSA
9.4 Southeast_Amerindian
4.2 German_Lower_Saxony
0.8 Frisian_Germany

with no cycles

Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 2.5341% / 0.02534092
61.2 Portuguese
24.2 SSA
9.4 Southeast_Amerindian
5.2 German_Lower_Saxony

Nurzat
02-05-2025, 03:53 PM
Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 2.6711% / 0.02671128
59.6 Ukrainian
40.4 German_Baden-Wurttemberg

Distance to: Nurzat_dad
0.03479544 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
0.03490809 German_Lower_Silesia
0.03573167 German_Thuringia
0.03580948 German_North_Bohemia
0.03636126 German_Saxony
0.03817824 Ukrainian
0.03862395 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.03962371 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.03963472 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.04024777 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.04151541 German_Bavaria_Swabia
0.04245055 German_West_Prussia
0.04264432 German_North_Moravia
0.04301381 Romanian
0.04358097 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.5272% / 0.01527224
71.0 Romanian
29.0 German_East_Prussia_Masuria

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.4703% / 0.01470282
65.0 Romanian
29.6 Ukrainian
5.4 German_West_Prussia

Distance to: Nurzat
0.02873427 Romanian
0.03134715 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
0.03389694 German_Bavaria_Swabia
0.03616314 German_North_Bohemia
0.03701884 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.03750570 German_Saxony
0.03760118 German_Lower_Silesia
0.03777034 German_Thuringia
0.03940855 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.03951314 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Target: Nurzat_maternal_grandma
Distance: 1.8488% / 0.01848801
83.0 Romanian
17.0 German_East_Prussia_Memelland

Distance to: Nurzat_maternal_grandma
0.02482847 Romanian
0.03811528 German_Bavaria_Swabia
0.03866709 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
0.04317531 German_Baden-Wurttemberg
0.04411979 German_North_Bohemia
0.04480467 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.04549556 German_South
0.04571679 German_Saxony
0.04582391 German_West_Bohemia
0.04588264 German_Bavaria_Lower_Franconia

Mopi The Dire Wolf
02-05-2025, 04:02 PM
Target: VonMopster_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.7616% / 0.00761551
20.6 Luxembourger
19.0 Monegasque
18.0 Swiss
15.2 Andorran
14.8 Liechtensteiner
4.8 Irish
4.4 Spanish
2.6 Finnish
0.6 Turkish


Distance to: VonMopster_simulated_g25_scaled
0.01160551 Swiss
0.01362470 French
0.01736690 Liechtensteiner
0.01886701 Luxembourger
0.02556080 Andorran
0.02675707 Belgian
0.03103193 Monegasque
0.03353709 Spanish
0.03735834 Portuguese
0.03924215 Austrian
0.03992157 German
0.04229561 Romanian
0.04408354 Montenegrin
0.04616673 Dutch
0.04664806 British
0.04666126 Serbian
0.04882030 Bulgarian
0.05069497 Hungarian
0.05089419 Moldovan
0.05174738 Croatian
0.05252325 North_Macedonian
0.05348617 Irish
0.05376398 Bosnian-Herzegovinian
0.05552060 Sammarinese
0.05761948 Danish

leachim_x
02-05-2025, 04:41 PM
Rhino would be a good nickname, no?

lol ;)


That's a smart idea.

Theoretical state of possessions in the early Middle Ages.

Target: cass
Distance: 0.7635% / 0.00763455
31.0 German_Saxony
29.4 Belarusian
15.8 Icelandic
10.6 Latvian
8.4 German_Bavaria_Swabia
1.8 Frisian_Germany
1.6 Cypriot
1.0 Montenegrin
0.4 Andorran

I suspect the Icelander is a proxy for the remnants of the Goths.

ok you may have deleted both...wild mix hehe :) :thumb001:
Yes Goth could be the reason. But i wonder no Swedish?!

ScandinavianCelt
02-05-2025, 04:55 PM
Considering the "overfitting" issue, I added:

Irish
British
Norwegian
Finnish
Moldovan

all German samples

Results:

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 1.9583% / 0.01958259
54.8 Irish
14.2 Finnish
13.6 German_Bavaria_Lower_Bavaria
9.0 Moldovan
6.4 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
2.0 German_East

Target: K36.Merged.Gedmatch.Brad
Distance: 0.7676% / 0.00767619
51.8 German_Western_Pomerania
26.0 Irish
9.0 Frisian_Germany
8.6 German_North_Moravia
4.6 British


I think this should be most accurate as it allows for my genetics from the west, north, and east. I will add something S-SW now and see if it changes, but this should be best, I think.

Note: I also added France, Spain, Portugal, and Italy, but results remain same as with the 5 listed above. IE I'm not showing any SW, S, or W. If I add more eastern samples, nothing changes. If I add Turkish, Georgian, Azerbaijani, it changes:

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 1.8425% / 0.01842481
27.8 Norwegian
22.0 Irish
19.4 Frisian_Germany
12.8 Finnish
8.8 German_Bavaria_Lower_Bavaria
6.8 Georgian
2.4 German_Lower_Silesia

Target: K36.Merged.Gedmatch.Brad
Distance: 0.7076% / 0.00707643
45.4 Frisian_Germany
18.6 Irish
16.4 British
13.2 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
3.6 Georgian
1.8 German_Western_Pomerania
1.0 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship

Finally, if I add top 5, plus Georgian and Pashtun:

This is prob most accurate of all:

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 1.7460% / 0.01746041
25.0 Norwegian
19.4 Frisian_Germany
17.6 Irish
14.0 German_Bavaria_Lower_Bavaria
10.2 German_East
5.6 Pashtun_Pakistan_Bettani
5.0 Finnish
2.0 German_Lower_Silesia
1.0 Georgian
0.2 German_Saxony_Leipzig

cass
02-05-2025, 04:57 PM
lol ;)



ok you may have deleted both...wild mix hehe :) :thumb001:
Yes Goth could be the reason. But i wonder no Swedish?!

Because they are no longer Goths?


Target: cass
Distance: 0.5737% / 0.00573660
44.8 Belarusian
18.2 German_Bavaria_Swabia
9.8 Poland_Maslomecz_IA
9.0 German_Bavaria_Lower_Franconia
7.2 Poland_Pruszcz_Gdanski_IA
5.0 Poland_Kowalewko_IA
4.2 Poland_Weklice_WielbarkCulture_Roman.SG
0.8 Cypriot
0.6 North_Macedonian
0.4 Poland_Maslomecz_IA_oEastEurope

https://i.ibb.co/M3v2Dv2/cass-admix-merged.png (https://ibb.co/NHvV6vV)

ScandinavianCelt
02-05-2025, 04:59 PM
I got a thumbs down what do I do

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZG9tbXpjYWN6Y3F5cXNtN2drcDZ5MDR kZXkycWRsaTEycnNlOXV0OSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/FcTdv3xQKhCIE/giphy.gif

It was prob my mistake. Been happening a lot by mistake lately, outside in frigid weather, that tiny icon gets missed by my frozen finger tapping blindly in the general area. I gave :thumb001:

nittionia
02-05-2025, 05:00 PM
It was prob my mistake. Been happening a lot by mistake lately, outside in frigid weather, that tiny icon gets missed by my frozen finger tapping blindly in the general area. I gave :thumb001:

Phew I feel much better!! I will send you gloves so this never happens again :)

Celestia
02-05-2025, 05:04 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=137233&d=1738778636

Gannicus
02-05-2025, 05:06 PM
Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02383247 British
0.02655178 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
0.02794160 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
0.02808599 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
0.02843526 German_North_Rhine
0.03023319 German_Southwest
0.03024850 German_Hesse
0.03107851 German_Bavaria
0.03135985 German_Westphalia
0.03147557 German_Upper_Swabia
0.03170562 German_Bavaria_Lower_Bavaria
0.03223271 German_Saarland
0.03233400 German_Lower_Saxony
0.03248830 German_Schleswig-Holstein
0.03345469 German_South
0.03373296 German_North
0.03378832 German_West_Bohemia
0.03406780 German_Bavaria_Lower_Franconia
0.03433188 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate
0.03547082 German_Baden-Wurttemberg
0.03564179 Frisian_Germany
0.03846906 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.03881412 German_North_Moravia
0.03904682 German_Hamburg
0.04059751 German_Bavaria_Swabia

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0222% / 0.02216959
62.6 British
37.4 German_Rhineland-Palatinate

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
02-05-2025, 05:10 PM
Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 2.3267% / 0.02326721
95.0 Portuguese
5.0 German_Saxony_Leipzig

Distance to: Viriato_scaled
0.02367662 Portuguese
0.05685983 German_Saarland
0.05805653 German_Baden-Wurttemberg
0.05918157 German_South
0.05975718 German_Hesse
0.06045803 German_Bavaria_Lower_Bavaria
0.06211858 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
0.06329758 German_North_Rhine
0.06353844 German_Bavaria_Swabia
0.06363750 German_Upper_Swabia
0.06436740 German_Bavaria_Lower_Franconia
0.06500194 German_Bavaria
0.06721407 German_Southwest
0.06840142 German_West_Bohemia
0.07160086 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate
0.07259509 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.07390310 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
0.07422280 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
0.07596348 German_North_Moravia
0.07653728 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
0.07983191 German_North_Bohemia
0.08022576 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.08256547 German_Saxony
0.08473668 German_Hamburg
0.08524960 German_Thuringia

ScandinavianCelt
02-05-2025, 05:20 PM
I think it's necessary to add all relevant pieces from different directions outside of Germany that one normally gets. Adding just one main piece isn't going to work well.

Gannicus
02-05-2025, 05:23 PM
Using Irish instead of British:

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0215% / 0.02151306
51.9 Irish
42.8 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
5.3 German_Saarland

Irish+French:

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0200% / 0.02002489
62.0 Irish
38.0 French

British+French:

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0212% / 0.02120194
71.3 British
28.7 French

Just French:

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0227% / 0.02267804
51.5 French
48.5 Frisian_Germany

ScandinavianCelt
02-05-2025, 05:40 PM
Try using ALL K36 Averages (in G25 form) vs YOUR K36 SIMULATED G25 for best results.

<iframe src="https://pastebin.com/embed_iframe/nxp5mDTd" style="border:none;width:50%"></iframe>


Target: K36.Merged.Gedmatch.Brad
Distance: 1.2765% / 0.01276457 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 German_Schleswig-Holstein

Target: K36.Merged.Gedmatch.Brad
Distance: 1.0762% / 0.01076219 | ADC: 1x RC
38.6 German_Hither_Pomerania
34.6 Faroese
26.8 German_Westphalia

Target: K36.Merged.Gedmatch.Brad
Distance: 0.6739% / 0.00673869 | ADC: 0.5x RC
33.6 German_Hither_Pomerania
32.4 Faroese
20.0 German_Schleswig-Holstein
12.0 Afrikaner
2.0 Bahun

Target: K36.Merged.Gedmatch.Brad
Distance: 0.4662% / 0.00466229 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.6 German_Hither_Pomerania
37.6 Irish_Ulster
11.4 Faroese
4.2 German_Thuringia_Central
2.8 Darginian
0.8 Mala
0.4 Eskimo
0.2 Pima

Target: K36.Merged.Gedmatch.Brad
Distance: 0.3538% / 0.00353844
31.0 Faroese
25.8 German_Frisian
10.4 Basque_Spanish
8.2 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
7.4 German_Hither_Pomerania
6.4 Irish_Ulster
5.6 Darginian
4.2 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
0.4 Mala
0.4 Surui
0.2 Gujarati

gixajo
02-05-2025, 06:11 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 1.8647% / 0.01864739
86.0 Spanish
14.0 German_Saarland

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 2.1041% / 0.02104142
85.6 Spanish
14.4 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia

Feiichy
02-05-2025, 06:22 PM
Fulda Huts :pippi

JerryS.
02-05-2025, 06:26 PM
With everything.

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7005% / 0.01700486
32.0 German_Lower_Saxony
30.8 Irish
17.0 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
15.0 German_Bavaria_Lower_Franconia
4.4 Maltese
0.8 Cypriot

With only British, Irish, (North German) Hamburg, Mecklenburg, Lower Saxony, Italian.

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7236% / 0.01723590
58.8 German_Lower_Saxony
25.4 Irish
15.8 Italian

ScandinavianCelt
02-05-2025, 06:46 PM
With everything.

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7005% / 0.01700486
32.0 German_Lower_Saxony
30.8 Irish
17.0 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
15.0 German_Bavaria_Lower_Franconia
4.4 Maltese
0.8 Cypriot

With only British, Irish, (North German) Hamburg, Mecklenburg, Lower Saxony, Italian.

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7236% / 0.01723590
58.8 German_Lower_Saxony
25.4 Irish
15.8 Italian

Use your k36 I think on this one I think some of these are from that sample set so use your k36 and maybe for your case add some other group you think you have maybe like the Dutch for example or something else you might have maybe Welsh

gixajo
02-05-2025, 06:51 PM
We are all germans...:icon_ask:

Tacitus
02-05-2025, 06:52 PM
Had to use a more southern proxy for this to work, otherwise just 100% Italian:

Target: Tacitus_G25sim
Distance: 2.6432% / 0.02643244
91.4 Maltese
5.0 German_Saarland
3.6 German_Bavaria

RyoHazuki
02-05-2025, 07:23 PM
Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 0.8385% / 0.00838516
33.4 British
29.6 Frisian_Germany
25.0 Andorran
9.6 German_Saxony_Leipzig
1.8 German_East
0.6 Spanish

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.9516% / 0.02951595
87.8 British
5.2 German_Saxony_Leipzig
3.6 Spanish
3.4 Maltese

cass
02-05-2025, 07:23 PM
We are all germans...:icon_ask:


It's more like a Celtic legacy
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Celts.svg

https://i.ibb.co/gFjkKwgk/germoutput-2025-01-31-T211407-680cel.png (https://ibb.co/JFBDJ2kD)

Vitez
02-05-2025, 07:42 PM
Target: vitez_scaled
Distance: 0.0179% / 0.01792674
100.0 Croatian

Only Bosnia :
Target: vitez_scaled
Distance: 0.0189% / 0.01889558
74.5 Bosnian-Herzegovinian
10.2 German_West_Prussia
9.2 German_Baden-Wurttemberg
6.1 German_East_Prussia_Masuria

Xavier727
02-05-2025, 07:49 PM
Target: scaled
Distance: 1.9967% / 0.01996749
58.2 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
38.0 Frisian_Germany
2.2 German_East
1.6 Northern_Amerindian

Beowulf
02-05-2025, 08:13 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/hPtNr0nv/Captura-de-pantalla-2025-02-05-221324.png (https://postimages.org/)

JerryS.
02-05-2025, 08:53 PM
Use your k36 I think on this one I think some of these are from that sample set so use your k36 and maybe for your case add some other group you think you have maybe like the Dutch for example or something else you might have maybe Welsh

My german ancestry has been traced to bremen, hamburg and mecklenburg schwerin.

gixajo
02-05-2025, 08:53 PM
It's more like a Celtic legacy
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Call it Celto-Germanic if you want, something as difficult or maybe more difficult to discern accurately than Balto-Slavic.

Edit: I mean to discern the Celtic from the Germanic and the Baltic from the Slavic , accurately.

ScandinavianCelt
02-05-2025, 09:21 PM
It's more like a Celtic legacy
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Celts.svg

https://i.ibb.co/gFjkKwgk/germoutput-2025-01-31-T211407-680cel.png (https://ibb.co/JFBDJ2kD)

Which Celtic tribes were living farthest east on that map you posted do you know? I'd like to know. I have one chromosome that plots just into the Black Sea from I think the Romanian area but then another set of data puts it just north into the most southwestern part of I think it's the Ukraine underneath Moldova anyway I have some plots over there and I wonder if some of it might be Celtic actually

Gannicus
02-05-2025, 09:22 PM
Distance to: German_Rhineland-Palatinate
0.01519798 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene
0.02064041 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA2
0.02240172 Celtic:Czech_IA_Hallstatt
0.02879663 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1.SG
0.03559897 Celtic:Czech_IA_Hallstatt.SG
0.03741689 Netherlands_MBA:I11973__BC_1330__Cov_73.07%
0.04263932 Sweden_Megalithic_FirseSten_LBA:FIR001__BC_1077__C ov_81.21%
0.05100781 Scandinavia_IA_avg
0.05153192 Scandinavia_IA_avg2


Distance to: German_Saarland
0.01838395 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene
0.02091452 Celtic:Czech_IA_Hallstatt
0.02284619 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA2
0.02539801 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1.SG
0.03374399 Celtic:Czech_IA_Hallstatt.SG
0.04471969 Netherlands_MBA:I11973__BC_1330__Cov_73.07%
0.04927834 Sweden_Megalithic_FirseSten_LBA:FIR001__BC_1077__C ov_81.21%
0.05805990 Scandinavia_IA_avg
0.05882679 Scandinavia_IA_avg2


Distance to: German_Bavaria
0.01679927 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene
0.02092702 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA2
0.02182177 Celtic:Czech_IA_Hallstatt
0.03294478 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1.SG
0.03593660 Celtic:Czech_IA_Hallstatt.SG
0.03757889 Netherlands_MBA:I11973__BC_1330__Cov_73.07%
0.04141980 Sweden_Megalithic_FirseSten_LBA:FIR001__BC_1077__C ov_81.21%
0.04868097 Scandinavia_IA_avg
0.04897843 Scandinavia_IA_avg2

Distance to: German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate
0.01891412 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene
0.02509507 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA2
0.02532776 Celtic:Czech_IA_Hallstatt
0.03516669 Netherlands_MBA:I11973__BC_1330__Cov_73.07%
0.03779112 Celtic:Czech_IA_Hallstatt.SG
0.03858116 Sweden_Megalithic_FirseSten_LBA:FIR001__BC_1077__C ov_81.21%
0.03952520 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1.SG
0.04231772 Scandinavia_IA_avg
0.04387893 Scandinavia_IA_avg2

Distance to: German_Bavaria_Swabia
0.02140349 Celtic:Czech_IA_Hallstatt
0.02211881 Celtic:Czech_IA_LaTene
0.02987990 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA2
0.03528570 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1.SG
0.03705329 Celtic:Czech_IA_Hallstatt.SG
0.04571234 Netherlands_MBA:I11973__BC_1330__Cov_73.07%
0.05067391 Sweden_Megalithic_FirseSten_LBA:FIR001__BC_1077__C ov_81.21%
0.05439118 Scandinavia_IA_avg
0.05643195 Scandinavia_IA_avg2


The distances aren't exactly what I expected. Definitely not a complete population replacement of the continental Celts in southern Germany

gixajo
02-05-2025, 09:36 PM
It's more like a Celtic legacy
url]

Celto-Germanic Vs. Balto-Slavic calculator. (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?392522-Celto-Germanic-Vs-Balto-Slavic-calculator(-3-more-components))

:)

Beowulf
02-05-2025, 09:40 PM
Which Celtic tribes were living farthest east on that map you posted do you know? I'd like to know. I have one chromosome that plots just into the Black Sea from I think the Romanian area but then another set of data puts it just north into the most southwestern part of I think it's the Ukraine underneath Moldova anyway I have some plots over there and I wonder if some of it might be Celtic actually

I have read about some obscure and quite unknown eastern celtic tribes such as the Osii, Romans weren't even so sure if they were actually Celtic, Germanic or even Illyrian!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osi_(tribe)



The Osi formed one of the minor constituent tribes of the vast Suevi (https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/BarbarianSuevi.htm) confederation. This was a confederation of Germanic peoples that came into existence by the first century AD, and perhaps earlier. Their number included the tribes of the Alemanni (https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/GermanySwabia.htm), Angles (https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/ScandinaviaAngeln.htm), Hermunduri (https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/BarbarianHermunduri.htm), Langobards (https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/ItalyLombards.htm), Marcomanni (https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/BarbarianMarcomanni.htm), Quadi (https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/BarbarianQuadi.htm), Semnones (https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/BarbarianSemnones.htm), and Warini (https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/BarbarianWarini.htm), and perhaps also the Heruli (https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/BarbarianHeruli.htm) too. None of these tribes were what could be considered 'front line' tribes, living along the border with the Roman empire. Instead they were arrayed behind a large number of other tribes which were better known and better attested by Roman writers. The Suebic tribes remained a little more obscure, at least until they came into direct contact with the empire, and many of the more minor tribes that made up the confederation were almost entirely unchronicled. The Osi themselves were described by Tacitus as being German, so they were clearly one of many Celtic tribes which suffered a takeover by a Germanic ruling elite, probably upon the fall of the Boii at the end of the first century BC. A smaller group of Osi which migrated into Pannonia were described as Pannonian-speakers, suggesting further that this group of Celts had fallen under the command of Pannonians.

https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/BarbarianOsi.htm

Rhegion
02-05-2025, 09:40 PM
I had to add more proxies (Greek, Cypriot and Maltese) not to have only 100% Italian shows up:

Target: Me
Distance: 2.0101% / 0.02010076
37.6 Cypriot
33.0 Maltese
29.4 Italian

Target: Father
Distance: 1.9312% / 0.01931184
46.6 Cypriot
45.8 Maltese
4.0 Frisian_Germany
2.8 Italian
0.8 German_Saarland

Target: Maternal_Grandpa
Distance: 1.5920% / 0.01592007
36.8 Cypriot
34.4 Maltese
20.2 Italian
8.6 Greek

Target: Maternal_Grandma
Distance: 1.8837% / 0.01883713
47.8 Maltese
43.4 Cypriot
6.2 Greek
2.6 Italian

Target: Cousin
Distance: 2.3379% / 0.02337859
53.2 Cypriot
32.8 Maltese
14.0 Italian

vader
02-06-2025, 04:44 AM
Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 1.4874% / 0.01487442
99.2 Portuguese
0.8 German_Bavaria_Swabia

but with Spanish as the proxy:

Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 1.9030% / 0.01902988
100.0 Spanish

I guess im one of the rare non-germanic admixed Iberians.

cass
02-06-2025, 07:38 AM
Call it Celto-Germanic if you want, something as difficult or maybe more difficult to discern accurately than Balto-Slavic.

Edit: I mean to discern the Celtic from the Germanic and the Baltic from the Slavic , accurately.

Not really. It's just that the G25 is a weak tool to differentiate them from the Insular Celts. Germanic people generally disappear in skeletal burial samples after the Nordic Bronze Age, and we only have them in Wieklice and later in Scandinavia.

https://i.ibb.co/8DYrfhFF/output-2025-02-02-T191232-072.png

Saint-Glinglin
02-07-2025, 08:23 PM
Target: sgg_g25
Distance: 2.5942% / 0.02594196
100.0 French
:cool:

Distance to: sgg_g25
0.02594196 French
0.03243451 German_Saarland
0.03454947 German_Bavaria_Lower_Bavaria
0.03481638 German_Hesse
0.03534816 German_Baden-Wurttemberg
0.03672872 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
0.03679020 German_South
0.03776243 German_Upper_Swabia
0.03903587 German_North_Rhine
0.04071887 German_Bavaria_Lower_Franconia
0.04101356 German_Bavaria
0.04132557 German_Bavaria_Swabia
0.04173123 German_Southwest
0.04401430 German_West_Bohemia
0.04700056 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate
0.04735347 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
0.05008661 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
0.05017482 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.05147779 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
0.05314839 German_North_Moravia
0.05753193 German_North_Bohemia
0.05864073 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.05887194 German_Westphalia
0.06003750 German_Hamburg
0.06057539 German_Saxony

Rĉdwald
02-07-2025, 09:45 PM
Target: Rĉdwald
Distance: 1.0479% / 0.01047918
26.4 Icelandic
26.0 Irish
23.8 Andorran
9.6 Belarusian
5.8 British
4.2 German_Saxony_Leipzig
1.8 Northern_Amerindian
1.2 Finnish
0.8 Spanish
0.4 Southeast_Amerindian

kaum Deutsche

noricum
02-08-2025, 02:20 PM
In my case Slovenian makes more sense than Austrian which does not show up in my results at all.


Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.1018% / 0.02101793
75.2 German_Saxony_Leipzig
16.4 Slovenian
8.4 German_Saarland

Belarusian gives the smallest distance though.

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.0925% / 0.02092479
52.6 German_Saxony_Leipzig
27.8 German_Saarland
18.4 Belarusian
1.2 German_Bavaria_Swabia

Kenshiro
08-28-2025, 02:30 AM
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 2.3413% / 0.02341306
81.4 Italian_Apulia
11.6 German_Upper_Swabia
5.4 German_Lower_Silesia
0.6 Central_Amerindian
0.6 German_West_Prussia
0.4 Northern_Amerindian

Fistora
08-28-2025, 08:05 PM
Distance to: me_scaled
0.02975129 German_Upper_Silesia
0.03041566 Polish
0.03055633 German_Lower_Silesia
0.03207163 German_West_Prussia
0.03209906 Ukrainian
0.03346156 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
0.03407400 German_Pomerania
0.03666994 German_Thuringia
0.03675717 German_Saxony
0.03731319 German_North_Bohemia

Target: me_scaled
Distance: 2.5249% / 0.02524937
65.2 German_Lower_Silesia
31.0 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
3.8 Ukrainian

After deleting Eastern German regions:
Target: me_scaled
Distance: 2.8045% / 0.02804547
50.0 Polish
28.2 Ukrainian
21.8 German_Bavaria_Swabia

celticdragongod
08-29-2025, 02:19 AM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01786302 German_North
0.01846519 German_Schleswig-Holstein
0.01847073 German_Westphalia
0.01849192 Irish
0.01904002 German_Lower_Saxony
0.02241736 Frisian_Germany
0.02354316 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
0.02390112 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
0.02601232 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.02617590 German_Hamburg
0.02757950 German_Western_Pomerania
0.03002559 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate
0.03121337 German_Mecklenburg
0.03133534 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.03139617 German_Bavaria
0.03145040 German_Southwest
0.03185181 German_Brandenburg
0.03215299 German_North_Rhine
0.03231795 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.03238835 German_North_Moravia
0.03244601 German_West_Bohemia
0.03261214 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
0.03324318 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.03355309 German_East
0.03398734 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.0159% / 0.01588741
51.2 German_North
44.6 Irish
4.2 German_Saarland

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01596667 53.80% German_North + 46.20% Irish
0.01643531 29.60% German_Mennonite_Russia + 70.40% Irish
0.01647222 23.20% German_Saxony-Anhalt + 76.80% Irish
0.01655916 50.20% German_Schleswig-Holstein + 49.80% Irish
0.01656873 22.00% German_East + 78.00% Irish
0.01659613 50.20% German_Westphalia + 49.80% Irish
0.01666859 19.00% German_Saxony_Leipzig + 81.00% Irish
0.01683699 27.60% German_Hamburg + 72.40% Irish
0.01686952 25.80% German_Western_Pomerania + 74.20% Irish
0.01688516 11.00% German_Upper_Silesia + 89.00% Irish
0.01689855 16.40% German_Lower_Silesia + 83.60% Irish
0.01692460 21.60% German_Brandenburg + 78.40% Irish
0.01695417 16.60% German_Pomerania + 83.40% Irish
0.01696172 18.20% German_North_Bohemia + 81.80% Irish
0.01696803 18.40% German_Thuringia + 81.60% Irish
0.01697831 17.80% German_Saxony + 82.20% Irish
0.01700911 19.40% German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship + 80.60% Irish
0.01701632 19.80% German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis + 80.20% Irish
0.01702172 45.80% German_Lower_Saxony + 54.20% Irish
0.01702660 16.80% German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia + 83.20% Irish
0.01706362 21.40% German_Mecklenburg + 78.60% Irish
0.01712772 8.20% German_East_Prussia_Memelland + 91.80% Irish
0.01715206 13.80% German_West_Prussia + 86.20% Irish
0.01718775 9.80% German_East_Prussia_Masuria + 90.20% Irish
0.01719812 29.80% German_North_Rhine-Westphalia + 70.20% Irish

nrinehi
08-29-2025, 11:20 AM
With only Polish:

Distance to: nrinehi
0.03151035 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
0.03203139 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
0.03327541 Polish
0.03422319 German_Upper_Silesia
0.04536409 German_West_Prussia
0.04959715 German_Pomerania
0.05493612 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.05502730 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.05671402 German_Lower_Silesia
0.05883609 German_Thuringia
0.05940399 German_Brandenburg
0.06039690 German_East
0.06056204 German_Mecklenburg
0.06114612 German_Saxony
0.06142552 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.06212012 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.06214595 German_Western_Pomerania
0.06335026 German_North_Bohemia
0.06369293 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.06403337 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.06721042 German_Hamburg
0.06826279 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
0.07124727 German_North_Moravia
0.07182784 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.07424744 German_North

Target: nrinehi
Distance: 2.9279% / 0.02927940
57.6 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
42.4 Polish

With Polish + Lithuanian:

Distance to: nrinehi
0.03151035 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
0.03203139 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
0.03240866 Lithuanian
0.03327541 Polish
0.03422319 German_Upper_Silesia
0.04536409 German_West_Prussia
0.04959715 German_Pomerania
0.05493612 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.05502730 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.05671402 German_Lower_Silesia
0.05883609 German_Thuringia
0.05940399 German_Brandenburg
0.06039690 German_East
0.06056204 German_Mecklenburg
0.06114612 German_Saxony
0.06142552 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.06212012 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.06214595 German_Western_Pomerania
0.06335026 German_North_Bohemia
0.06369293 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.06403337 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.06721042 German_Hamburg
0.06826279 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
0.07124727 German_North_Moravia
0.07182784 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen

Target: nrinehi
Distance: 2.7036% / 0.02703632
62.2 Lithuanian
23.4 Polish
14.4 German_Saxony_Leipzig

With Belarusian instead (usually the closest per distance group):

Distance to: nrinehi
0.02316533 Belarusian
0.03151035 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
0.03203139 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
0.03422319 German_Upper_Silesia
0.04536409 German_West_Prussia
0.04959715 German_Pomerania
0.05493612 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.05502730 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.05671402 German_Lower_Silesia
0.05883609 German_Thuringia
0.05940399 German_Brandenburg
0.06039690 German_East
0.06056204 German_Mecklenburg
0.06114612 German_Saxony
0.06142552 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.06212012 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.06214595 German_Western_Pomerania
0.06335026 German_North_Bohemia
0.06369293 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.06403337 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.06721042 German_Hamburg
0.06826279 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
0.07124727 German_North_Moravia
0.07182784 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.07424744 German_North

Target: nrinehi
Distance: 2.3164% / 0.02316386
99.4 Belarusian
0.6 German_Saxony_Leipzig

(lolol)

Fabricius
08-31-2025, 09:35 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Ai8o0PC.png



Target: Fabricius_K13-G25
Distance: 1.4060% / 0.01405958
65.0 Portuguese
15.0 German_Saxony_Leipzig
9.0 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
6.8 SSA
4.2 German_East_Prussia_Memelland

Target: Fabricius_K15-G25
Distance: 1.2501% / 0.01250063
65.8 Portuguese
11.2 German_Saxony_Leipzig
9.0 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
7.0 German_Bavaria_Swabia
7.0 SSA

Target: Fabricius_K36-G25
Distance: 1.3116% / 0.01311630
79.2 Portuguese
11.8 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
6.6 SSA
2.0 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
0.4 German_Bavaria_Swabia

Target: Fabricius_MyHeritage-to-g25(simulated)
Distance: 1.3030% / 0.01303017
67.4 Portuguese
21.8 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
7.0 SSA
3.8 German_East_Prussia_Memelland

Fabricius
08-31-2025, 09:37 PM
Distance to: Fabricius_MyHeritage-to-g25(simulated)
0.05260878 Portuguese
0.07351486 German_Baden-Wurttemberg
0.07525255 German_Bavaria_Lower_Bavaria
0.07527053 German_South
0.07598529 German_Hesse
0.07656597 German_Saarland
0.07661327 German_Bavaria_Swabia
0.07827909 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
0.07879332 German_Upper_Swabia
0.07898918 German_Bavaria_Lower_Franconia
0.07934010 German_North_Rhine
0.08041279 German_Bavaria
0.08077896 German_Southwest
0.08078301 German_West_Bohemia
0.08220791 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.08285465 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate
0.08437777 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
0.08619024 German_North_Moravia
0.08678623 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
0.08694843 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
0.08714075 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.08774642 German_North_Bohemia
0.09033844 German_Saxony
0.09183503 German_Hamburg
0.09190565 German_Thuringia
0.09347844 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.09363277 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.09446243 German_Lower_Silesia
0.09503393 German_Westphalia
0.09607113 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.09767464 German_North
0.09808268 German_Schleswig-Holstein
0.09841227 German_Brandenburg
0.09892136 German_East
0.09894605 German_Lower_Saxony
0.10015131 German_Western_Pomerania
0.10244304 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.10341553 German_Pomerania
0.10345842 German_Mecklenburg
0.10385309 Frisian_Germany
0.10516636 German_West_Prussia
0.10598166 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.11436174 German_Upper_Silesia
0.11810684 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
0.13058924 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
0.69845129 SSA:Africa_West

Fabricius
08-31-2025, 09:40 PM
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The image is to show the 184 cycles.

Fabricius
08-31-2025, 09:56 PM
Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 2.5338% / 0.02533820
61.4 Portuguese
24.2 SSA
9.4 Southeast_Amerindian
4.2 German_Lower_Saxony
0.8 Frisian_Germany

with no cycles

Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 2.5341% / 0.02534092
61.2 Portuguese
24.2 SSA
9.4 Southeast_Amerindian
5.2 German_Lower_Saxony

Lower Saxony was the calculator's solution to the lack of the Dutch sample, which I believe matches your true ancestry.

Fabricius
08-31-2025, 10:57 PM
I think it's necessary to add all relevant pieces from different directions outside of Germany that one normally gets. Adding just one main piece isn't going to work well.

I think whenever I score adds "Bavarian" % it's actually something from northern Italy. So for fun I added some samples:


Spain_Visigoth,0.1272542,0.1358778,0.0463104,0.022 61,0.0377302,0.0069724,0.00658,0.0029076,0.0075264 ,0.0115536,-0.0050666,0.008782,-0.0121604,-0.0059452,0.0059446,0.0051178,0.0050328,0.0032434,-0.0004274,0.0055778,0.0060892,0.0015828,-0.002539,0.0017352,-0.0021316
Spain_Visigoth:Barcelona,0.1240675,0.138112,0.0531 74,0.0127585,0.046624,-0.0029285,0.0027025,-0.0023075,0.0189185,0.0312535,-0.0094185,0.0014985,-0.010332,-0.006124,0.0061755,0.004972,0.0052805,0.003104,0.0 02074,-0.0005625,0.0043045,-0.0010515,0.000185,0.0059645,0.003772
Spain_Visigoth:Granada,0.0795336,0.1473786,0.01880 89,-0.0245884,0.034814,-0.011783,-0.007726,0.0023654,0.0322638,0.0372444,-0.0026998,0.0055451,-0.0060206,-0.0095821,0.0069896,-0.0072428,-0.0064376,0.0002691,-0.0154609,-0.0019851,0.0009359,-0.0106341,0.0048375,-0.008239,-0.001931
Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards:_1,0.1314658, 0.1373502,0.0626022,0.0414247,0.0426232,0.0146418, 0.00376,0.0074422,0.0043975,-0.0009113,-0.0062925,0.0053578,-0.0145315,-0.0092552,0.0231742,0.0089828,-0.0034225,0.003199,0.004588,0.0073472,0.0083915,0. 0029988,-0.0017565,0.0143692,0.0003892
Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards:_2,0.1250633, 0.1436974,0.0340825,0.0045624,0.0328521,0.0038696, 0.0039364,-0.0024521,0.0088711,0.0156722,-0.0035115,0.0059571,-0.0116698,-0.0036296,0.0032065,-0.00595,-0.0048242,0.001457,0.0036451,-0.0015789,0.0025269,0.00102,0.0004006,0.0045788,0. 0021854
Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards:_3,0.1061398, 0.1487752,-0.0181958,-0.0496613,0.0080012,-0.0152692,-0.0001763,-0.0055382,0.0018408,0.0187247,0.0019485,0.0062945,-0.009217,-0.0002065,-0.004852,-0.0039112,0.0021188,0.00038,0.002168,-0.0025638,0.0001557,0.0030295,0.0033585,0.0032838, 0.001347
Italian_Northeast,0.125612,0.143552,0.035611,0.001 73,0.035435,0.002032,0.003173,0.002044,0.006881,0. 015946,-0.002366,0.004774,-0.008389,-0.000374,-0.004576,0.00036,0.004023,0.000887,0.003834,-0.002599,-0.00353,0.000433,-0.001796,0.00457,0.000359


Since I was already messing it up xD , I added some Balto-Slavic samples for teasing.
Ukrainian because it is a Slavic sample far from the Baltic Sea and the Mediterranean Sea.
The Lithuanian average was gave by Northern Lights list:

Latvian,0.135449,0.122473,0.088774,0.089471,0.0432 08,0.034025,0.012597,0.014076,-0.002168,-0.036885,-0.003573,-0.013818,0.023221,0.031378,-0.010559,0.004057,0.002712,-0.00038,0.001609,0.004302,-0.002795,-0.005713,0.009071,-0.009327,0.002634
Ukrainian_Lviv,0.132161,0.127957,0.062267,0.04741, 0.036451,0.019399,0.008904,0.011436,0.000114,-0.014802,-0.004168,-0.006361,0.011629,0.02306,-0.009787,-0.005362,-0.001652,-0.001675,0.004874,-0.000361,-0.004783,-0.004218,0.004724,-0.002638,-0.001703
Lithuanian,0.1351696,0.1252487,0.0841702,0.0812399 ,0.0437402,0.0310126,0.010828,0.0158916,-0.003142,-0.0316931,-0.003967,-0.0118045,0.0215508,0.0293188,-0.0113644,0.0003735,0.003076,-0.0004276,0.0028895,0.0028811,-0.0041329,-0.0054201,0.0084179,-0.0077303,0.0001022
Polish,0.1318405,0.1292694,0.0698685,0.0577382,0.0 406754,0.0217127,0.0086781,0.0108626,-0.0009329,-0.0185524,-0.0043488,-0.0064187,0.013093,0.0186295,-0.0070244,-0.0005595,0.0015455,-7.41e-05,0.0026948,0.0012872,-0.0031286,-0.0031185,0.0056063,-0.0033328,-8.76e-05



Target: Fabricius_K13-G25
Distance: 1.2882% / 0.01288240
48.4 Portuguese
15.4 Italian_Northeast
10.4 German_Saxony_Leipzig
9.8 Spain_Visigoth
9.4 Lithuanian
6.6 SSA

Target: Fabricius_K15-G25
Distance: 1.0506% / 0.01050592
38.4 Spain_Visigoth
19.0 Portuguese
11.8 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards
10.8 German_Saxony_Leipzig
9.0 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
7.0 SSA
4.0 Italian_Northeast

Target: Fabricius_K36-G25
Distance: 0.9529% / 0.00952862
32.8 Portuguese
28.2 Spain_Visigoth
18.4 Italian_Northeast
10.6 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
6.2 SSA
2.6 German_Upper_Silesia
1.2 German_Saxony

Target: Fabricius_MyHeritage-to-g25(simulated)
Distance: 0.6608% / 0.00660780
43.0 Portuguese
21.2 Ukrainian_Lviv?????
13.4 Spain_Visigoth
12.6 Italian_Northeast
6.6 SSA
3.2 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards

This 21% Ukrainian is bizarre.

I like the K13 and K15 results with such model.
K36 is reasonable.
The Bavarian left, but the Prussian resisted even with a Lithuanian sample.

My simulated from raw data (MyHeritage) is wrong, at least the percentage is wrong.

Fabricius
08-31-2025, 11:06 PM
We are all germans...:icon_ask:

Ja!

gixajo
08-31-2025, 11:18 PM
Ja!

That is "yes" in German or are you laughing in Spanish?

Fabricius
08-31-2025, 11:19 PM
It's more like a Celtic legacy
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Celts.svg

https://i.ibb.co/gFjkKwgk/germoutput-2025-01-31-T211407-680cel.png (https://ibb.co/JFBDJ2kD)

Maybe this:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/West_Germanic_Kingdoms_460.jpg?20100628104018

And this:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d8/69/09/d86909973971192d985964ef6eac32e8.jpg

Fabricius
08-31-2025, 11:21 PM
That is "yes" in German or are you laughing in Spanish?

Hahahahaah
Good!

It is "yes".
I don't pronounce the 'j' like in Spanish.

PaulieVanZant
09-01-2025, 07:41 PM
Distance to: Paulie_Scaled
0.01366254 German_Lower_Saxony
0.01393809 German_North
0.01448105 German_Westphalia
0.01459298 German_Schleswig-Holstein
0.01777525 German_Hamburg
0.01873687 Frisian_Germany
0.01970938 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.02031618 German_Western_Pomerania
0.02068395 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.02104553 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
0.02140582 German_Mecklenburg
0.02178446 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
0.02247471 German_Brandenburg
0.02343349 German_East
0.02372659 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.02572477 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.02573165 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.02613699 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate
0.02626051 German_North_Moravia
0.02742326 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.02788511 German_Thuringia
0.02799680 German_West_Bohemia
0.02882917 German_North_Bohemia
0.02918100 German_Southwest
0.02966445 German_Saxony

Target: Paulie_Scaled
Distance: 1.2744% / 0.01274367
65.4 German_Lower_Saxony
18.0 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
7.8 German_Saarland
6.6 German_East
2.2 German_Bavaria_Lower_Bavaria

With added countries:

Distance to: Paulie_Scaled
0.01352525 Danish
0.01366254 German_Lower_Saxony
0.01393809 German_North
0.01448105 German_Westphalia
0.01459298 German_Schleswig-Holstein
0.01668052 Norwegian
0.01714191 Dutch
0.01777525 German_Hamburg
0.01873687 Frisian_Germany
0.01970938 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.02031618 German_Western_Pomerania
0.02068395 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.02101458 Swedish
0.02104553 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
0.02140582 German_Mecklenburg
0.02173528 British
0.02177499 Icelandic
0.02178446 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
0.02247471 German_Brandenburg
0.02321894 German
0.02343349 German_East
0.02372659 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.02414521 Irish
0.02572477 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.02573165 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis

Children:

Distance to: Scaled:Pauliechai
0.01306349 German_Thuringia
0.01330461 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.01340923 German_Lower_Silesia
0.01377290 German_Brandenburg
0.01479226 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.01511587 German_North_Bohemia
0.01526191 German_East
0.01549245 German_Saxony
0.01570817 German_Pomerania
0.01602762 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.01624240 German_Hamburg
0.01666048 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.01796655 German_Mecklenburg
0.01826317 German_Western_Pomerania
0.01859996 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.01914623 German_West_Prussia
0.02003506 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.02166181 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
0.02166251 German_North_Moravia
0.02264231 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.02542919 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate
0.02545734 German_North
0.02558667 German_Westphalia
0.02659952 German_West_Bohemia
0.02697175 German_Schleswig-Holstein

Target: Scaled:Pauliechai
Distance: 0.9011% / 0.00901121
27.6 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
26.0 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
13.8 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
9.6 German_West_Prussia
8.6 German_East
8.6 German_Saarland
5.8 German_Lower_Silesia

#Oda#
09-01-2025, 10:16 PM
same result with and without Dutch for single calc

Target: #Oda#_simulated.1_scaled
Distance: 0.4830% / 0.00482987
48.0 German_Westphalia
26.6 Frisian_Germany
14.4 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
7.4 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
2.6 German_Saarland
0.8 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.2 German_Lower_Saxony

Target: #Oda#_Davidski_scaled
Distance: 1.8738% / 0.01873829
73.2 German_Lower_Saxony
16.4 German_East
10.4 German_Bavaria_Lower_Bavaria


Distance to: #Oda#_simulated.1_scaled
0.00564682 German_Westphalia
0.00651159 German_North
0.00658110 German_Schleswig-Holstein
0.00665558 German_Lower_Saxony
0.01170003 Dutch
0.01348915 Frisian_Germany
0.01414081 German_Hamburg
0.01554013 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
0.01604771 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.01652232 German_Western_Pomerania
0.01695834 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
0.01963386 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.02034985 German_Mecklenburg
0.02117198 German_Brandenburg
0.02289704 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate
0.02312826 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.02348172 German_North_Moravia
0.02357312 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.02395215 German_East
0.02404032 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.02486311 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.02520927 German_West_Bohemia
0.02561545 German_Southwest
0.02691039 German_Thuringia
0.02695606 German_Bavaria

Distance to: #Oda#_Davidski_scaled
0.01956647 German_Lower_Saxony
0.02103345 German_Westphalia
0.02154188 German_Schleswig-Holstein
0.02240226 German_North
0.02276530 Dutch
0.02393057 German_Hamburg
0.02446178 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
0.02472331 Frisian_Germany
0.02569303 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.02589947 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
0.02675680 German_Western_Pomerania
0.02721252 German_East
0.02731098 German_Mecklenburg
0.02740518 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.02801707 German_Brandenburg
0.02901323 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.02947118 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate
0.02999555 German_North_Moravia
0.03005498 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.03056197 German_West_Bohemia
0.03098047 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.03139091 German_Southwest
0.03194792 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.03220574 German_Thuringia
0.03261025 German_North_Bohemia

#Oda#
09-01-2025, 10:27 PM
with Danish

Distance to: #Oda#_Davidski_scaled
0.01956647 German_Lower_Saxony
0.02051994 Danish
0.02103345 German_Westphalia
0.02154188 German_Schleswig-Holstein
0.02240226 German_North
0.02393057 German_Hamburg
0.02446178 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
0.02472331 Frisian_Germany
0.02569303 German_Mennonite_Russia
0.02589947 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
0.02675680 German_Western_Pomerania
0.02721252 German_East
0.02731098 German_Mecklenburg
0.02740518 German_East_Prussia_Braunsberg
0.02801707 German_Brandenburg
0.02901323 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.02947118 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate
0.02999555 German_North_Moravia
0.03005498 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.03056197 German_West_Bohemia
0.03098047 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.03139091 German_Southwest
0.03194792 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.03220574 German_Thuringia
0.03261025 German_North_Bohemia

#Oda#
09-01-2025, 11:29 PM
I just see the German federal state HESSE is missing and not covered by any other regions.

Add: Error. I just dont get it, which is strange.

Peterski
09-02-2025, 12:17 AM
This thread got broken.

Coastal Elite
09-02-2025, 02:39 AM
Target: CE_scaled
Distance: 1.5119% / 0.01511912
76.2 German_Upper_Swabia
23.4 Romanian
0.4 Southwest_Amerindian

Distance to: CE_scaled
0.01764056 German_Baden-Wurttemberg
0.01855913 German_Upper_Swabia
0.01964399 German_Bavaria_Lower_Bavaria
0.02132934 German_South
0.02295969 German_Hesse
0.02373285 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
0.02379186 German_Southwest
0.02389967 German_Saarland
0.02422042 German_Bavaria
0.02452880 German_Bavaria_Swabia
0.02455183 German_North_Rhine
0.02504379 German_Bavaria_Lower_Franconia
0.02648104 German_Bavaria_Upper_Palatinate
0.02724597 German_West_Bohemia
0.02967844 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia_Erlangen
0.03031786 German_North_Rhine-Westphalia
0.03110319 German_Saxony_West_Erzgebirgskreis+North_Bohemia
0.03223831 German_Bavaria_Middle_Franconia
0.03430357 German_North_Moravia
0.03654789 Romanian
0.03816148 German_North_Bohemia
0.03912618 German_Saxony_Erzgebirgskreis
0.04054867 German_Saxony
0.04058429 German_Saxony-Anhalt
0.04103246 German_Thuringia

Vid Flumina
09-06-2025, 12:21 AM
Target: VFlumina_scaled
Distance: 3.3221% / 0.03322061
68.2 Monegasque
31.8 German_Bavaria_Swabia

JohnDoe22
09-06-2025, 11:47 AM
Target: JohnDoe22
Distance: 0.6540% / 0.00654027 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.2 Serb_Croatia_(n=14)
8.2 German_Saxony
7.0 German_East
2.6 Polish

Xavier727
09-07-2025, 08:12 PM
Target: scaled
Distance: 2.2022% / 0.02202245
66.4 Norwegian
11.6 Frisian_Germany
6.8 Slovakian
5.8 Turkish
3.6 Irish
3.4 Liechtensteiner
2.4 French