View Full Version : Celto-Germanic Vs. Balto-Slavic calculator(+3 more components)
gixajo
02-05-2025, 09:32 PM
Any component has one modern + one ancient reference.
Good luck.
No ADC needed, aggregated results.
For fun.
Balto-Slavic:Mod,0.132976,0.124618,0.075407,0.068543,0.0 40602,0.026128,0.010255,0.013807,-0.00234,-0.025764,-0.003454,-0.010052,0.017895,0.026062,-0.011436,-0.000899,0.002855,-0.000524,0.003009,0.001307,-0.004393,-0.005027,0.006688,-0.005583,0.000139
Balto-Slavic:Anc,0.1283922,0.1301908,0.0802514,0.069768, 0.0467162,0.026104,0.0073322,0.009692,0.0028634,-0.0218318,-0.0025008,-0.0045558,0.0140336,0.0232858,-0.0050488,-0.001803,-0.0011996,-0.0007854,0.007944,0.0010004,0.0007736,0.0001976,0 .0059158,-0.0018074,0.0018922
Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod,0.124564,0.134456,0.030032,0.006924 ,0.026578,0.001407,0.00464,0.004355,0.000824,0.006 506,-0.003223,0.000218,0.000934,0.0086,-0.013303,-0.00206,0.005917,0.000471,0.003508,-0.003352,-0.005791,-0.001435,0.003388,-0.000611,-0.000898
Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc,0.1168587,0.1198323,0.0310497,0.003 7683,0.0239017,-0.0012087,0.0066583,0.0035383,0.001977,0.009051,-0.0018403,0.0037467,-0.0020317,0.0022477,-0.0063337,0.0038007,0.009344,-0.0010557,0.001676,-0.001417,-0.0059897,0.0011953,0.0011913,-0.001004,-0.009101
Celto-Germanic:Mod,0.13183,0.135738,0.059266,0.043364,0. 038677,0.017249,0.003735,0.005305,0.003657,0.00228 ,-0.005651,0.004078,-0.009762,-0.00791,0.017337,0.004019,-0.007223,0.001764,0.002064,0.001445,0.00403,0.0015 4,0.000315,0.011384,0.000367
Celto-Germanic:Anc,0.1282947,0.1322365,0.0598546,0.04621 21,0.039326,0.0176896,0.0049351,0.0060163,0.002439 7,0.001484,-0.005788,0.0035754,-0.0092912,-0.0100955,0.018584,0.0048205,-0.0090523,0.003511,0.0039685,0.0048414,0.0057132,0 .0025348,-0.0011884,0.0124026,-0.0012659
Mediterranean-East:Mod,0.1010858,0.1466231,-0.0350541,-0.0685837,-0.0032825,-0.0231878,-0.0002686,-0.003967,-0.0017238,0.0167919,0.0032091,0.0013131,0.0005663, 0.0024969,-0.0125056,0.0002841,0.0051099,0.000555,0.0032203,-0.002257,-0.002151,0.0011953,-0.0015436,0.0026681,-0.000998
Mediterranean-East:Anc,0.102014,0.1487751,-0.0297454,-0.0677089,0.0017697,-0.0231479,-0.0011162,-0.0056248,-0.0051898,0.019112,0.0021921,0.0020231,-0.0059278,-0.0010666,-0.0105861,0.0016905,0.008263,1.58E-05,0.0037552,-0.0036894,-0.0044919,-0.00102,-0.0007548,-0.0001054,-0.000509
Mediterranean-West:Mod,0.121687,0.167285,0.02849,-0.050652,0.060151,-0.022134,-0.003952,0.002496,0.041574,0.077351,-5.9e-05,0.016649,-0.028664,-0.012974,-0.013572,-0.003001,0.011403,-0.001347,0.00168,-0.012995,-0.002121,-0.001102,-0.010084,-0.021383,0.000337
Mediterranean-West:Anc,0.112002,0.1671562,0.0214958,-0.049419,0.0549024,-0.0262714,-0.004982,0.0016616,0.0371824,0.0621426,0.0041896,0 .0107604,-0.0226856,-0.0099914,-0.010912,-0.0042432,0.0075624,0.0016722,0.0027906,-0.0055024,0.0010984,0.0029184,-0.0066308,-0.0134234,0.0019878
For our American forum members.
Amerindian,0.05288,-0.320484,0.117426,0.088758,-0.113829,-0.016885,-0.271604,-0.321948,-0.013379,-0.017761,-0.001867,-0.001174,0.002224,0.017599,-0.006023,0.006105,0.003537,0.001557,0.000534,-0.001746,-0.00039,0.0017,0.00018,0.001516,-0.000978
West-African,-0.548817,0.065569,0.021684,0.016516,0.004042,0.009 64,-0.010293,0.015015,-0.025497,0.016504,0.002977,-0.004311,0.003523,-0.00222,0.005515,-0.002082,0.003086,0.004987,-0.001777,-0.000408,0.001032,-0.000754,0.000957,-0.002004,-0.000587
Beowulf
02-05-2025, 09:33 PM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0128% / 0.01281600
57.6 Celto-Germanic
24.3 Mediterranean-West
8.7 Balkan_North&Carpathian
8.7 Mediterranean-East
0.7 Balto-Slavic
Beowulf
02-05-2025, 09:36 PM
Parents:
Target: Caroline_Scaled
Distance: 0.0140% / 0.01395471
62.1 Celto-Germanic
21.2 Mediterranean-West
9.5 Balkan_North&Carpathian
5.6 Balto-Slavic
1.6 Mediterranean-East
Target: Francisco_Scaled
Distance: 0.0236% / 0.02359983
47.3 Celto-Germanic
32.9 Mediterranean-West
11.1 Mediterranean-East
8.7 Balkan_North&Carpathian
gixajo
02-05-2025, 09:37 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 2.0812% / 0.02081247
54.6 Celto-Germanic
45.4 Mediterranean-West
Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 2.3995% / 0.02399473
56.8 Celto-Germanic
43.2 Mediterranean-West
And using the reference for Americans...:eek:
Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 2.0664% / 0.02066355
55.0 Celto-Germanic
44.6 Mediterranean-West
0.4 West-African
Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 2.3893% / 0.02389271
57.0 Celto-Germanic
42.6 Mediterranean-West
0.4 West-African
Vitez
02-05-2025, 09:39 PM
Target: vitez_scaled
Distance: 0.0153% / 0.01530744
55.5 Balto-Slavic
15.4 Balkan_North&Carpathian
13.8 Mediterranean-East
7.7 Mediterranean-West
7.6 Celto-Germanic
Target: cass
Distance: 0.9112% / 0.00911161
59.8 Balto-Slavic :thumb001:
35.8 Celto-Germanic
2.4 Mediterranean-East
2.0 Mediterranean-West
Rhegion
02-05-2025, 09:52 PM
Target: Me
Distance: 1.6787% / 0.01678680
70.6 Mediterranean-East
14.6 Mediterranean-West
9.8 Celto-Germanic
5.0 Balkan_North&Carpathian
Target: Father
Distance: 2.0513% / 0.02051346
75.0 Mediterranean-East
13.0 Celto-Germanic
12.0 Mediterranean-West
Target: Maternal_Grandpa
Distance: 1.5906% / 0.01590573
68.8 Mediterranean-East
19.0 Balkan_North&Carpathian
10.0 Mediterranean-West
2.2 Celto-Germanic
Target: Maternal_Grandma
Distance: 1.8158% / 0.01815782
76.4 Mediterranean-East
16.2 Mediterranean-West
7.4 Balto-Slavic
Target: Cousin
Distance: 1.9896% / 0.01989565
78.2 Mediterranean-East
14.0 Balkan_North&Carpathian
7.8 Mediterranean-West
Gannicus
02-05-2025, 09:53 PM
Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02576440 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.02669814 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.07311255 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.07343045 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.08583795 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.09510552 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.13477642 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.14470789 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.15698247 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.16202442 Mediterranean-East:Mod
Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0224% / 0.02243279
90.6 Celto-Germanic
9.4 Mediterranean-West
Balboa
02-05-2025, 10:01 PM
Target: Balboa
Distance: 1.6659% / 0.01665906
54.6 Mediterranean-West
37.0 Mediterranean-East
8.4 Balto-Slavic
Distance to: Balboa
0.04132011 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.05817788 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.07320180 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.08049398 Mediterranean-East:Mod
0.08648847 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.08969046 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.13119421 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.13605901 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.17128053 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.17322854 Balto-Slavic:Mod
Athalafuns
02-05-2025, 10:18 PM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 2.5483% / 0.02548272
52.6 Celto-Germanic
37.2 Mediterranean-West
6.6 Balkan_North&Carpathian
3.6 Mediterranean-East
ScandinavianCelt
02-05-2025, 10:20 PM
Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 2.1330% / 0.02132968
87.0 Celto-Germanic
9.0 Balto-Slavic
4.0 Balkan_North&Carpathian
Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 2.1330% / 0.02132968
84.4 Celto-Germanic:Anc
9.0 Balto-Slavic:Mod
4.0 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
2.6 Celto-Germanic:Mod
#Oda#
02-05-2025, 10:42 PM
Target: #Oda#_Davidski-coords_scaled
Distance: 2.2167% / 0.02216715
90.0 Celto-Germanic
10.0 Balto-Slavic
Distance to: #Oda#_Davidski-coords_scaled
0.02373486 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.02380135 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.06307022 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.07092016 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.07491767 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.07620950 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.15222435 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.16191351 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.16994754 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.17485823 Mediterranean-East:Mod
Any component has one modern + one ancient reference.
Good luck.
https://i.postimg.cc/gJQMNQL7/Zrzut-ekranu-1-2-2025-132544.jpg (https://postimg.cc/XGKcv28K)
https://i.postimg.cc/fTxHfHzH/Zrzut-ekranu-1-2-2025-12503-chatgpt-com.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Wh162wJr)
You can easily base such a calculator on CW. This is the source of the drift on which David based the G25.
Peterski
02-05-2025, 10:58 PM
Target: #Oda#_Davidski-coords_scaled
Distance: 2.2167% / 0.02216715
90.0 Celto-Germanic
10.0 Balto-Slavic
Distance to: #Oda#_Davidski-coords_scaled
0.02373486 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.02380135 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.06307022 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.07092016 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.07491767 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.07620950 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.15222435 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.16191351 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.16994754 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.17485823 Mediterranean-East:Mod
It seems that even NW Germans have minor Balto-Slavic admixture.
These are Rothaer's estimates of BS admixture in Germany by region:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?389373-Balto-Slavic-admixture-of-Germans
^^^
Is your region of origin mentioned in Rothaer's list in the link above?
It seems that even NW Germans have minor Balto-Slavic admixture.
These are Rothaer's estimates of BS admixture in Germany by region:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?389373-Balto-Slavic-admixture-of-Germans
^^^
Is your region of origin mentioned in Rothaer's list in the link above?
https://i.postimg.cc/85ZGc136/Zrzut-ekranu-6-2-2025-199-vahaduo-github-io.jpg (https://postimages.org/)png na jpg (https://postimages.org/pl/)
Although the Baltic drift in the G25 is exaggerated, there is a natural overlap in the post Corded populations. You can't avoid it.
#Oda#
02-05-2025, 11:21 PM
It seems that even NW Germans have minor Balto-Slavic admixture.
These are Rothaer's estimates of BS admixture in Germany by region:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?389373-Balto-Slavic-admixture-of-Germans
^^^
Is your region of origin mentioned in Rothaer's list in the link above?
Thank you! (For some reasons I do not get all notifications recently.)
Yes, it's there: Hannover 2%.
I'm not entirely sure if I get the correct amount of BS via G25 tbh; seems slightly too high referred to my genealogy.
I should get my father's G25, then I'll see clearer.
tk'es
02-06-2025, 12:26 PM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 10.0472% / 0.10047195
66.8 Mediterranean-East:Mod
18.4 Celto-Germanic:Anc
14.8 Balto-Slavic:Mod
gixajo
02-06-2025, 12:49 PM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 10.0472% / 0.10047195
Maybe this will help lower your distances:
Caucasus:Anc,0.103786,0.132757,-0.068842,-0.042636,-0.04675,-0.006541,0.009443,-0.007825,-0.058141,-0.018356,0.004266,0.006935,-0.015136,0.002139,0.003554,-0.003857,0.006341,-0.002119,-0.001131,0.000091,0.007135,-0.000641,0.000213,-0.004798,-0.002177
Caucasus:Mod,0.106472,0.137291,-0.059717,-0.050138,-0.0385,-0.010289,0.010006,-0.007,-0.059302,-0.019347,0.000368,0.009871,-0.023243,0.00591,0.000564,-0.0189,0.011036,-0.004774,-0.005416,0.013114,0.011484,0.004433,0.00172,-0.007559,0.000082
Ciscaucasia:Mod,0.106045,0.093768,-0.034098,-0.025854,-0.037058,0.00179,0.010204,-0.001538,-0.05805,-0.028824,-0.002517,0.00858,-0.02106,0.002208,0.007651,-0.021932,0.003303,-0.00587,-0.011465,0.017894,0.007612,0.001066,-0.001448,-0.009344,-0.001432
Ciscaucasia:Anc,0.118831,0.090382,0.025795,0.09702 9,-0.036991,0.040551,0.011186,-0.003185,-0.059148,-0.071291,0.000942,-0.001499,-0.002706,-0.018111,0.036427,0.014426,0.009909,0.001064,-0.0,0.007128,-0.003594,0.005985,0.012645,0.016484,-0.005029
Central_Asia:Anc,0.039838,-0.38844,0.076932,-0.023094,-0.062781,-0.038766,0.016334,0.018345,0.002659,0.008748,-0.026876,0.001574,-0.005872,-0.003922,0.000068,0.0,-0.003976,-0.002407,0.000942,0.006066,-0.015224,0.005194,-0.014236,-0.003976,0.002994
Central_Asia:Mod,0.038345,-0.36758,0.040486,-0.03502,-0.01625,-0.009994,0.011754,0.010985,-0.002964,0.005927,-0.047136,-0.004582,0.004764,-0.002008,-0.001757,-0.000079,-0.001596,-0.000639,0.000979,0.00455,-0.006754,0.001982,-0.005513,-0.001432,0.00747
Grace O'Malley
02-06-2025, 12:50 PM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 0.0225% / 0.02250729
100.0 Celto-Germanic
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 0.0225% / 0.02250729
65.5 Celto-Germanic:Anc
34.5 Celto-Germanic:Mod
gixajo
02-06-2025, 12:55 PM
100.0 Celto-Germanic
Grace never disappoints with her results.:thumb001:
Vessna
02-06-2025, 01:53 PM
Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 1.6795% / 0.01679518
97.6 Balto-Slavic:Mod :cool:
2.4 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
Mopi The Dire Wolf
02-06-2025, 03:28 PM
Target: Mopiov_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.9985% / 0.00998492
62.6 Celto-Germanic
21.6 Mediterranean-West
10.0 Balkan_North&Carpathian
5.8 Mediterranean-East
Distance to: Mopiov_simulated_g25_scaled
0.04490187 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.04492625 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.04515051 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.04902066 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.09711875 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.10122156 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.10283025 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.11240809 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.12623566 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.13187365 Mediterranean-East:Mod
#Oda#
02-06-2025, 06:26 PM
Target: Mopiov_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.9985% / 0.00998492
62.6 Celto-Germanic
21.6 Mediterranean-West
10.0 Balkan_North&Carpathian
5.8 Mediterranean-East
Distance to: Mopiov_simulated_g25_scaled
0.04490187 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.04492625 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.04515051 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.04902066 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.09711875 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.10122156 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.10283025 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.11240809 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.12623566 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.13187365 Mediterranean-East:Mod
You are half Spanish, half English, aren't you?
RyoHazuki
02-06-2025, 09:30 PM
Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 1.1248% / 0.01124832
86.4 Celto-Germanic
9.2 Mediterranean-West
4.4 Balto-Slavic
Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 3.1548% / 0.03154832
94.0 Celto-Germanic
6.0 Mediterranean-West
Fabricius
02-07-2025, 01:39 AM
Target: Fabricius_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.2132% / 0.01213176
(With Amerindian, that I believe is just a residual ANE)
32.4 Mediterranean-West
32.0 Celto-Germanic
16.6 Balto-Slavic*
9.4 Mediterranean-East
8.8 West-African
0.8 Amerindian
Target: Fabricius_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.3072% / 0.01307151
(Without Amerindian)
33.8 Celto-Germanic
30.0 Mediterranean-West
16.4 Balto-Slavic
10.8 Mediterranean-East
9.0 West-African
*Suck it, fucking MyHeritage! Another Brazilian or Iberian here with 16.6% Balto-Slavic? I think there is not.
Distance to: Fabricius_g25_scaled
0.06524749 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.07069819 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.09094642 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.09162964 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.10596954 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.11853245 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.12024525 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.12251633 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.12278889 Mediterranean-East:Mod
0.12525358 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.61785448 West-African
0.65180516 Amerindian
vader
02-07-2025, 03:19 AM
Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 1.6229% / 0.01622945
43.6 Celto-Germanic
43.0 Mediterranean-West
7.4 Balkan_North&Carpathian
3.4 West-African
1.8 Mediterranean-East
0.8 Amerindian
Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 3.3940% / 0.03393974
50.0 Amerindian
23.4 Celto-Germanic
22.2 Mediterranean-East
4.4 West-African
tk'es
02-07-2025, 02:10 PM
Maybe this will help lower your distances:
Caucasus:Anc,0.103786,0.132757,-0.068842,-0.042636,-0.04675,-0.006541,0.009443,-0.007825,-0.058141,-0.018356,0.004266,0.006935,-0.015136,0.002139,0.003554,-0.003857,0.006341,-0.002119,-0.001131,0.000091,0.007135,-0.000641,0.000213,-0.004798,-0.002177
Caucasus:Mod,0.106472,0.137291,-0.059717,-0.050138,-0.0385,-0.010289,0.010006,-0.007,-0.059302,-0.019347,0.000368,0.009871,-0.023243,0.00591,0.000564,-0.0189,0.011036,-0.004774,-0.005416,0.013114,0.011484,0.004433,0.00172,-0.007559,0.000082
Ciscaucasia:Mod,0.106045,0.093768,-0.034098,-0.025854,-0.037058,0.00179,0.010204,-0.001538,-0.05805,-0.028824,-0.002517,0.00858,-0.02106,0.002208,0.007651,-0.021932,0.003303,-0.00587,-0.011465,0.017894,0.007612,0.001066,-0.001448,-0.009344,-0.001432
Ciscaucasia:Anc,0.118831,0.090382,0.025795,0.09702 9,-0.036991,0.040551,0.011186,-0.003185,-0.059148,-0.071291,0.000942,-0.001499,-0.002706,-0.018111,0.036427,0.014426,0.009909,0.001064,-0.0,0.007128,-0.003594,0.005985,0.012645,0.016484,-0.005029
Central_Asia:Anc,0.039838,-0.38844,0.076932,-0.023094,-0.062781,-0.038766,0.016334,0.018345,0.002659,0.008748,-0.026876,0.001574,-0.005872,-0.003922,0.000068,0.0,-0.003976,-0.002407,0.000942,0.006066,-0.015224,0.005194,-0.014236,-0.003976,0.002994
Central_Asia:Mod,0.038345,-0.36758,0.040486,-0.03502,-0.01625,-0.009994,0.011754,0.010985,-0.002964,0.005927,-0.047136,-0.004582,0.004764,-0.002008,-0.001757,-0.000079,-0.001596,-0.000639,0.000979,0.00455,-0.006754,0.001982,-0.005513,-0.001432,0.00747
ancient and modern
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 3.4156% / 0.03415564
70.4 Ciscaucasia:Mod
11.8 Ciscaucasia:Anc
11.4 Mediterranean-East:Mod
5.2 Celto-Germanic:Anc
1.0 Caucasus:Anc
0.2 Central_Asia:Anc
my ancient one is North Caucasus + Celto-Germanic
leachim_x
02-07-2025, 02:21 PM
Target: Lx_K36
Distance: 0.0093% / 0.00925742
86.3 Celto-Germanic:Mod
7.1 Balto-Slavic:Anc
5.4 Mediterranean-West:Mod
1.2 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
Target: Lx_K36
Distance: 1.0020% / 0.01001952 | ADC: 0.5x RC
92.6 Celto-Germanic:Mod
4.2 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
3.2 Mediterranean-West:Mod
Target: Lx_K36
Distance: 1.0281% / 0.01028139 | R3P | ADC: 0.5x RC
95.8 Celto-Germanic:Mod
4.2 Mediterranean-West:Mod
Distance to: Lx_K36
0.01219753 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.01805655 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.06217877 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.06631765 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.06658091 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.07475065 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.13717888 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.14678464 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.15803307 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.16284029 Mediterranean-East:Mod
https://i.ibb.co/W4RnMGYz/grafik.png
Saint-Glinglin
02-07-2025, 07:49 PM
Target: sgg_g25
Distance: 2.5576% / 0.02557590
60.6 Celto-Germanic
24.6 Mediterranean-West
13.0 Balkan_North&Carpathian
1.8 Mediterranean-East
Distance to: sgg_g25
0.05260405 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.05313320 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.05391380 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.05706144 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.10254415 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.10444996 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.10881742 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.11123742 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.13034099 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.13678910 Mediterranean-East:Mod
Gannicus
02-08-2025, 03:30 AM
Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02576440 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.02669814 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.07311255 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.07343045 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.08583795 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.09510552 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.13477642 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.14470789 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.15698247 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.16202442 Mediterranean-East:Mod
Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0224% / 0.02243279
90.6 Celto-Germanic
9.4 Mediterranean-West
Turning off aggregate the model prefers to assign ancient Celto-Germanic:
Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0224% / 0.02243279
90.6 Celto-Germanic:Anc
7.1 Mediterranean-West:Mod
2.3 Mediterranean-West:Anc
noricum
02-08-2025, 02:02 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.2600% / 0.02260014
46.8 Balto-Slavic
24.6 Celto-Germanic
19.6 Balkan_North&Carpathian
7.8 Mediterranean-West
1.2 Mediterranean-East
Nurzat
02-08-2025, 02:30 PM
ran without Balkan, as that is a mix of the other components over here (Med + Balto-Slavic mostly):
Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 2.1095% / 0.02109463
66.2 Balto-Slavic
21.4 Mediterranean-East
10.4 Celto-Germanic
2.0 Mediterranean-West
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.8094% / 0.01809352
58.0 Balto-Slavic
24.8 Mediterranean-East
11.8 Celto-Germanic
5.4 Mediterranean-West
Target: Nurzat_maternal_grandma
Distance: 1.9435% / 0.01943482
60.6 Balto-Slavic
26.0 Mediterranean-East
12.0 Mediterranean-West
1.4 Celto-Germanic
#Oda#
02-09-2025, 07:15 PM
Target: #Oda#_Davidski-coords_scaled
Distance: 2.2167% / 0.02216715
90.0 Celto-Germanic
10.0 Balto-Slavic
Distance to: #Oda#_Davidski-coords_scaled
0.02373486 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.02380135 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.06307022 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.07092016 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.07491767 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.07620950 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.15222435 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.16191351 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.16994754 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.17485823 Mediterranean-East:Mod
Finally simulated my father's G25 with his K36 result. He's 100% Lower Saxon as far as possible to research, which is back to the 10th generation in nearly all of his lines.
As expected he has less Balto-Slavic, which is also in accordance with our updated MyH results, where he has no EE and I got 1,7%.
Crazy distance btw, probably due to sim coords.
Target: father_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.5920% / 0.00591955
95.8 Celto-Germanic
4.2 Balto-Slavic
Distance to: father_simulated_g25_scaled
0.00674724 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.00975243 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.06364932 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.07192198 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.07286055 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.07440582 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.14665708 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.15625169 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.16694514 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.17151680 Mediterranean-East:Mod
#Oda#
02-09-2025, 07:25 PM
Target: mother_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.7813% / 0.00781346
87.2 Celto-Germanic
12.8 Balto-Slavic
Distance to: mother_simulated_g25_scaled
0.01187467 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.01305757 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.05818935 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.06741432 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.07229485 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.07573756 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.15162543 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.16159676 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.16922457 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.17357132 Mediterranean-East:Mod
makes sense as well, very nice
#Oda#
02-09-2025, 07:32 PM
myself simulated, also way closer distances now:
Target: #Oda#_simulated_ancestry_scaled
Distance: 0.7781% / 0.00778136
90.6 Celto-Germanic
9.4 Balto-Slavic
Target: #Oda#_simulated_MH.old+LDNA_scaled
Distance: 0.7398% / 0.00739797
89.6 Celto-Germanic
10.4 Balto-Slavic
EasternLusitanian
02-09-2025, 10:02 PM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0322% / 0.03219122
43.9 Mediterranean-West:Anc
41.5 Celto-Germanic:Anc
14.6 Mediterranean-East:Anc
Really ancient genetics here
vasiliki23
02-10-2025, 07:46 PM
Target: VASILIKI_scaled
Distance: 2.8432% / 0.02843245
34.0 Mediterranean-East
21.6 Balto-Slavic
21.4 Balkan_North&Carpathian
19.0 Mediterranean-West
4.0 Celto-Germanic
Feiichy
02-11-2025, 06:53 AM
Slavka Hut stronk :halo:
Target: Feiichy_scaled
Distance: 0.0276% / 0.02763183
68.8 Balto-Slavic
14.0 Mediterranean-West
13.5 Mediterranean-East
3.7 Celto-Germanic
R1b-L51
02-11-2025, 09:04 PM
NO BALTO, NO GAIN?
Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 3.3041% / 0.03304129
43.2 Celto-Germanic
42.0 Mediterranean-West
10.2 Balkan_North&Carpathian
4.6 Mediterranean-East
Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.05882840 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.06196557 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.07800908 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.08069582 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.08184708 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.09476016 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.11420437 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.11982127 Mediterranean-East:Mod
0.12247077 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.12745398 Balto-Slavic:Mod
Fabricius
08-31-2025, 11:30 PM
Target: Fabricius_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.2132% / 0.01213176
(With Amerindian, that I believe is just a residual ANE)
32.4 Mediterranean-West
32.0 Celto-Germanic
16.6 Balto-Slavic*
9.4 Mediterranean-East
8.8 West-African
0.8 Amerindian
Target: Fabricius_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.3072% / 0.01307151
(Without Amerindian)
33.8 Celto-Germanic
30.0 Mediterranean-West
16.4 Balto-Slavic
10.8 Mediterranean-East
9.0 West-African
*Suck it, fucking MyHeritage! Another Brazilian or Iberian here with 16.6% Balto-Slavic? I think there is not.
Distance to: Fabricius_g25_scaled
0.06524749 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.07069819 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.09094642 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.09162964 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.10596954 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.11853245 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.12024525 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.12251633 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.12278889 Mediterranean-East:Mod
0.12525358 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.61785448 West-African
0.65180516 Amerindian
Oh yes, I was very angry with MyHeritage.
I still hate them, but at least they gave me my Raw Data.
I will repeat the present test with other coordinates:
Target: Fabricius_K13-G25
Distance: 1.4214% / 0.01421380
34.2 Celto-Germanic
33.2 Mediterranean-West
19.0 Balto-Slavic
8.8 West-African
4.6 Mediterranean-East
0.2 Amerindian
Target: Fabricius_K15-G25
Distance: 1.2258% / 0.01225778
33.6 Mediterranean-West
33.0 Celto-Germanic
20.0 Balto-Slavic
9.0 West-African
4.2 Mediterranean-East
0.2 Amerindian
Target: Fabricius_K36-G25
Distance: 1.4975% / 0.01497544
37.4 Mediterranean-West
32.4 Celto-Germanic
15.4 Balto-Slavic
9.0 West-African
5.4 Mediterranean-East
0.4 Amerindian
Kenshiro
09-01-2025, 04:36 AM
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 2.2846% / 0.02284606
44.2 Balkan_North&Carpathian
40.8 Mediterranean-East
7.8 Mediterranean-West
7.2 Celto-Germanic
gixajo
09-01-2025, 08:48 AM
This model is pretty good, I like it.
And I'm not saying this (only) because I'm the author. :)
drb234
09-01-2025, 11:57 AM
Target: drb234
Distance: 2.0509% / 0.02050854
93.8 Celto-Germanic
5.2 Mediterranean-West
1.0 Balto-Slavic
Solid:thumb001:
nrinehi
09-01-2025, 12:27 PM
Target: nrinehi
Distance: 2.6082% / 0.02608215
100.0 Balto-Slavic
Distance to: nrinehi
0.02617193 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.03146431 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.08096109 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.08206724 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.09815647 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.10772901 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.19011631 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.19940810 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.20072558 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.20311360 Mediterranean-East:Mod
Rędwald
09-01-2025, 12:42 PM
Target: Rędwald
Distance: 1.2259% / 0.01225902
83.8 Celto-Germanic
8.0 Balto-Slavic
6.0 Mediterranean-West
2.2 Amerindian
Target: Rędwald
Distance: 1.2259% / 0.01225902
67.4 Celto-Germanic:Mod
16.4 Celto-Germanic:Anc
8.0 Balto-Slavic:Anc
6.0 Mediterranean-West:Mod
2.2 Amerindian
Rafael Passoni
09-01-2025, 02:54 PM
Target: me_scaled
Distance: 2.4809% / 0.02480874
33.8 Mediterranean-West
32.0 Balkan_North&Carpathian
20.2 Mediterranean-East
14.0 Celto-Germanic
celticdragongod
09-01-2025, 04:54 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01952297 Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.01954554 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.06834241 Balto-Slavic:Anc
0.07768073 Balto-Slavic:Mod
0.07813508 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.08052832 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.15168453 Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.16126095 Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.17159190 Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.17597875 Mediterranean-East:Mod
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.0190% / 0.01902933
50.1 Celto-Germanic:Mod
49.1 Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.8 Balto-Slavic:Anc
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01903701 50.60% Celto-Germanic:Mod + 49.40% Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.01950708 1.20% Balto-Slavic:Anc + 98.80% Celto-Germanic:Mod
0.01952625 1.40% Balto-Slavic:Anc + 98.60% Celto-Germanic:Anc
0.05377945 58.60% Balto-Slavic:Anc + 41.40% Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.05391293 77.20% Balto-Slavic:Anc + 22.80% Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.05436943 78.60% Balto-Slavic:Anc + 21.40% Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.05551841 58.00% Balto-Slavic:Anc + 42.00% Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.05696825 81.00% Balto-Slavic:Anc + 19.00% Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.05784178 82.00% Balto-Slavic:Anc + 18.00% Mediterranean-East:Mod
0.06006541 73.80% Balto-Slavic:Mod + 26.20% Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.06060749 75.40% Balto-Slavic:Mod + 24.60% Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.06075028 52.20% Balto-Slavic:Mod + 47.80% Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.06222542 50.40% Balto-Slavic:Mod + 49.60% Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
0.06657441 79.80% Balto-Slavic:Mod + 20.20% Mediterranean-East:Anc
0.06756018 81.00% Balto-Slavic:Mod + 19.00% Mediterranean-East:Mod
0.07804425 84.00% Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod + 16.00% Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
0.15028055 20.00% Mediterranean-East:Anc + 80.00% Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.15043661 17.60% Mediterranean-East:Mod + 82.40% Mediterranean-West:Anc
0.15417503 38.60% Mediterranean-East:Anc + 61.40% Mediterranean-West:Mod
0.15451086 35.40% Mediterranean-East:Mod + 64.60% Mediterranean-West:Mod
#Oda#
09-01-2025, 06:35 PM
This model is pretty good, I like it.
And I'm not saying this (only) because I'm the author. :)
I'm convinced it is. It fits perfectly with the genealogical research for my parents, comprising nearly 10 complete generations back each one meanwhile.
Peterski
09-03-2025, 11:10 PM
Target: Peterski_Merged
Distance: 1.9045% / 0.01904507
60.2 Balto-Slavic
31.0 Celto-Germanic
8.8 Balkan_North&Carpathian
My coordinates:
Peterski_Merged,0.133173,0.139128,0.065996,0.05846 3,0.033852,0.022869,0.00705,0.009692,0.000205,-0.018041,-0.003897,-0.001649,0.009812,0.008257,-0.007329,-0.000133,0.002738,0.001774,-0.000754,-0.001376,-0.009483,-0.000742,0.006409,0.006025,-0.002754
rothaer
09-03-2025, 11:19 PM
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.5215% / 0.01521526
52.4 Celto-Germanic
44.2 Balto-Slavic
3.4 Mediterranean-West
Katarzyna
09-03-2025, 11:49 PM
arget: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 1.3235% / 0.01323507
86.4 Balto-Slavic
12.2 Celto-Germanic
1.4 Balkan_North&Carpathian
Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(DNAGenics)
Distance: 2.1297% / 0.02129654
81.2 Balto-Slavic
17.6 Celto-Germanic
1.2 Balkan_North&Carpathian
Duan
09-04-2025, 08:04 AM
Ancient:
Target: Duan_scaled
Distance: 2.9871% / 0.02987106
61.8 Balto-Slavic:Anc
22.0 Mediterranean-East:Anc
9.2 Mediterranean-West:Anc
7.0 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc
Modern:
Target: Duan_scaled
Distance: 2.4109% / 0.02410942
57.0 Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod
35.6 Balto-Slavic:Mod
7.4 Mediterranean-West:Mod
JohnDoe22
09-05-2025, 10:24 PM
Target: JohnDoe22
Distance: 1.2626% / 0.01262631
47.8 Balto-Slavic
24.8 Balkan_North&Carpathian
9.6 Celto-Germanic
9.2 Mediterranean-East
8.6 Mediterranean-West
CeltiberoGermanico
09-16-2025, 07:38 AM
Any component has one modern + one ancient reference.
Good luck.
No ADC needed, aggregated results.
For fun.
Balto-Slavic:Mod,0.132976,0.124618,0.075407,0.068543,0.0 40602,0.026128,0.010255,0.013807,-0.00234,-0.025764,-0.003454,-0.010052,0.017895,0.026062,-0.011436,-0.000899,0.002855,-0.000524,0.003009,0.001307,-0.004393,-0.005027,0.006688,-0.005583,0.000139
Balto-Slavic:Anc,0.1283922,0.1301908,0.0802514,0.069768, 0.0467162,0.026104,0.0073322,0.009692,0.0028634,-0.0218318,-0.0025008,-0.0045558,0.0140336,0.0232858,-0.0050488,-0.001803,-0.0011996,-0.0007854,0.007944,0.0010004,0.0007736,0.0001976,0 .0059158,-0.0018074,0.0018922
Balkan_North&Carpathian:Mod,0.124564,0.134456,0.030032,0.006924 ,0.026578,0.001407,0.00464,0.004355,0.000824,0.006 506,-0.003223,0.000218,0.000934,0.0086,-0.013303,-0.00206,0.005917,0.000471,0.003508,-0.003352,-0.005791,-0.001435,0.003388,-0.000611,-0.000898
Balkan_North&Carpathian:Anc,0.1168587,0.1198323,0.0310497,0.003 7683,0.0239017,-0.0012087,0.0066583,0.0035383,0.001977,0.009051,-0.0018403,0.0037467,-0.0020317,0.0022477,-0.0063337,0.0038007,0.009344,-0.0010557,0.001676,-0.001417,-0.0059897,0.0011953,0.0011913,-0.001004,-0.009101
Celto-Germanic:Mod,0.13183,0.135738,0.059266,0.043364,0. 038677,0.017249,0.003735,0.005305,0.003657,0.00228 ,-0.005651,0.004078,-0.009762,-0.00791,0.017337,0.004019,-0.007223,0.001764,0.002064,0.001445,0.00403,0.0015 4,0.000315,0.011384,0.000367
Celto-Germanic:Anc,0.1282947,0.1322365,0.0598546,0.04621 21,0.039326,0.0176896,0.0049351,0.0060163,0.002439 7,0.001484,-0.005788,0.0035754,-0.0092912,-0.0100955,0.018584,0.0048205,-0.0090523,0.003511,0.0039685,0.0048414,0.0057132,0 .0025348,-0.0011884,0.0124026,-0.0012659
Mediterranean-East:Mod,0.1010858,0.1466231,-0.0350541,-0.0685837,-0.0032825,-0.0231878,-0.0002686,-0.003967,-0.0017238,0.0167919,0.0032091,0.0013131,0.0005663, 0.0024969,-0.0125056,0.0002841,0.0051099,0.000555,0.0032203,-0.002257,-0.002151,0.0011953,-0.0015436,0.0026681,-0.000998
Mediterranean-East:Anc,0.102014,0.1487751,-0.0297454,-0.0677089,0.0017697,-0.0231479,-0.0011162,-0.0056248,-0.0051898,0.019112,0.0021921,0.0020231,-0.0059278,-0.0010666,-0.0105861,0.0016905,0.008263,1.58E-05,0.0037552,-0.0036894,-0.0044919,-0.00102,-0.0007548,-0.0001054,-0.000509
Mediterranean-West:Mod,0.121687,0.167285,0.02849,-0.050652,0.060151,-0.022134,-0.003952,0.002496,0.041574,0.077351,-5.9e-05,0.016649,-0.028664,-0.012974,-0.013572,-0.003001,0.011403,-0.001347,0.00168,-0.012995,-0.002121,-0.001102,-0.010084,-0.021383,0.000337
Mediterranean-West:Anc,0.112002,0.1671562,0.0214958,-0.049419,0.0549024,-0.0262714,-0.004982,0.0016616,0.0371824,0.0621426,0.0041896,0 .0107604,-0.0226856,-0.0099914,-0.010912,-0.0042432,0.0075624,0.0016722,0.0027906,-0.0055024,0.0010984,0.0029184,-0.0066308,-0.0134234,0.0019878
For our American forum members.
Amerindian,0.05288,-0.320484,0.117426,0.088758,-0.113829,-0.016885,-0.271604,-0.321948,-0.013379,-0.017761,-0.001867,-0.001174,0.002224,0.017599,-0.006023,0.006105,0.003537,0.001557,0.000534,-0.001746,-0.00039,0.0017,0.00018,0.001516,-0.000978
West-African,-0.548817,0.065569,0.021684,0.016516,0.004042,0.009 64,-0.010293,0.015015,-0.025497,0.016504,0.002977,-0.004311,0.003523,-0.00222,0.005515,-0.002082,0.003086,0.004987,-0.001777,-0.000408,0.001032,-0.000754,0.000957,-0.002004,-0.000587
Target: MergedmixAAP_scaled
Distance: 1.2961% / 0.01296117
50.6 Celto-Germanic
49.4 Mediterranean-West
Target: MAMA_scaled
Distance: 3.2444% / 0.03244408
49.6 Celto-Germanic
46.0 Mediterranean-West
4.4 Mediterranean-East
Target: PAPA_scaled
Distance: 3.6090% / 0.03609006
50.0 Celto-Germanic
50.0 Mediterranean-West
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