Your #1 Ancient Population sample on IllustrativeDNA vs Mod Pop Ave Scaled

[ScandinavianCelt]

This is for sharing purposes, for fun :thumb001:

Post your closest actual #1 sample or samples (if more than one with same distance) from IllustrativeDNA vs Modern Pop Averages Scaled and show .25x-.5x ADC.

NOTE: You must find your sample(s) coordinates using the Ancient Scaled sample set once you see what it/they is/are on the map they provide, as I show below here.

SOURCE: https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1wZr-UOve0KUKo_Qbgeo27m-CQncZWb8y

TARGET: My top sample is listed in two pieces: (check the map they give you to see if you have more than one):

https://i.postimg.cc/nzD2x8qy/LANGOBARD1-CROATIA-SNIP.jpg (https://postimg.cc/5YfL5R7g)

https://i.postimg.cc/7Lc9jPJ1/LANGOBARD2-HUNGARY-SZ12-SNIP.jpg (https://postimg.cc/rd15rkJz)



IllustrativeDNA gives me Langobard @ 1.653 distance, but lists two samples, one in Croatia, one in Hungary and this is how they fare:


Target: Croatia_Scitarjevo_Roman_oNorthEurope.SG:R3660.SG
Distance: 2.5769% / 0.02576899 | ADC: 0.5x RC
82.4 Icelandic
17.6 Polish_Kashubian

Target: Croatia_Scitarjevo_Roman_oNorthEurope.SG:R3660.SG
Distance: 2.5769% / 0.02576899 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.4 Icelandic
17.6 Polish_Kashubian

Target: Hungary_Langobard:SZ12
Distance: 2.0066% / 0.02006595 | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.0 Icelandic
25.0 French_Seine-Maritime
19.0 Sorb_Niederlausitz
4.0 Slovakian

Target: Hungary_Langobard:SZ12
Distance: 1.8539% / 0.01853936 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.6 Icelandic
16.2 Sorb_Niederlausitz
14.2 French_Seine-Maritime
9.4 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
8.6 Russian_Kaluga
1.4 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.6 Papuan_Highland_A

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You can also check if your #2 sample matches the top sample(s) somehow. This is my #2-- Schleswig:

Target: Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG001.A
Distance: 1.4482% / 0.01448179 | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.6 Icelandic
16.8 French_Pas-de-Calais
14.4 Dutch
4.2 EmiratiA

Target: Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG001.A
Distance: 1.4040% / 0.01403953 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.6 Icelandic
23.6 Danish
15.2 French_Pas-de-Calais
3.6 Iranian_Arab_Khuzestan
3.2 English
1.8 EmiratiA


So, in all three cases my closest samples are heavily Icelandic.

[Grace O'Malley]

https://i.postimg.cc/hvCnQWBd/Screenshot-2025-02-13-203612.png

Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L001.B_noUDG
Distance: 2.2552% / 0.02255245 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.0 Irish
17.0 Finnish_Southwest
3.8 Shetlandic
1.2 Brahmin_Rajasthan


Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L001.B_noUDG
Distance: 2.4883% / 0.02488288 | ADC: 1x RC
41.0 Icelandic
25.6 Shetlandic
22.2 Orcadian
11.2 Irish


Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L001.B_noUDG
Distance: 2.2729% / 0.02272917 | ADC: 0.5x RC
81.2 Irish
18.2 Finnish_Southwest
0.6 Shetlandic

Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L001.B_noUDG
Distance: 2.4883% / 0.02488288 | ADC: 1x RC
41.0 Icelandic
25.6 Shetlandic
22.2 Orcadian
11.2 Irish

Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L001.B_noUDG
Distance: 2.5139% / 0.02513892 | ADC: 2x RC
44.6 Icelandic
32.2 Irish
23.2 Orcadian

There are too many of them. The one above is KL001 but using the ancient spreadsheet the closest I match KL037

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.02636301 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L037.A_noUDG
0.02722424 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L025.B_noUDG
0.02732359 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L033.B_noUDG
0.02764961 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L013.B_noUDG
0.02900929 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L004.B_noUDG
0.02944123 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L003.B_noUDG
0.03027434 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L023.B_noUDG
0.03063272 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L006.B_noUDG
0.03069847 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L028.B_noUDG
0.03131728 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L026.B_noUDG
0.03247472 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L027.B_noUDG
0.03265353 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L022.B_noUDG
0.03265571 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L014.B_noUDG
0.03288457 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L001.B_noUDG
0.03316068 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L047.B_noUDG
0.03405167 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L032.B_noUDG
0.03462430 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L044.B_noUDG
0.03526714 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L008.B_noUDG
0.03638515 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L035.B_noUDG
0.03642481 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L016.B_noUDG
0.03671967 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L009.B_noUDG
0.03855673 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L041.B_noUDG
0.03884320 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L012.A_noUDG
0.03955907 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L034.A_noUDG
0.04237347 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L042.A_noUDG

Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L037.A_noUDG
Distance: 1.2577% / 0.01257707 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.8 Danish
22.2 Icelandic
15.8 Irish
13.2 French_Pas-de-Calais
5.6 Akhvakh
1.6 Iranian_Arab_Khuzestan
0.8 Colla

Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L037.A_noUDG
Distance: 1.4213% / 0.01421328 | ADC: 0.5x RC
51.6 Danish
24.4 Irish
9.8 Orcadian
7.4 Tabasaran
6.8 Afrikaner

Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L037.A_noUDG
Distance: 1.7935% / 0.01793495 | ADC: 1x RC
44.0 Dutch
38.2 Irish
17.8 Danish

Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L037.A_noUDG
Distance: 1.8614% / 0.01861418 | ADC: 2x RC
53.4 Dutch
46.6 Scottish

[ScandinavianCelt]

https://i.postimg.cc/hvCnQWBd/Screenshot-2025-02-13-203612.png

Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L001.B_noUDG
Distance: 2.2552% / 0.02255245 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.0 Irish
17.0 Finnish_Southwest
3.8 Shetlandic
1.2 Brahmin_Rajasthan


Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L001.B_noUDG
Distance: 2.4883% / 0.02488288 | ADC: 1x RC
41.0 Icelandic
25.6 Shetlandic
22.2 Orcadian
11.2 Irish


Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L001.B_noUDG
Distance: 2.2729% / 0.02272917 | ADC: 0.5x RC
81.2 Irish
18.2 Finnish_Southwest
0.6 Shetlandic

Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L001.B_noUDG
Distance: 2.4883% / 0.02488288 | ADC: 1x RC
41.0 Icelandic
25.6 Shetlandic
22.2 Orcadian
11.2 Irish

Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L001.B_noUDG
Distance: 2.5139% / 0.02513892 | ADC: 2x RC
44.6 Icelandic
32.2 Irish
23.2 Orcadian

There are too many of them. The one above is KL001 but using the ancient spreadsheet the closest I match KL037

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.02636301 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L037.A_noUDG
0.02722424 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L025.B_noUDG
0.02732359 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L033.B_noUDG
0.02764961 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L013.B_noUDG
0.02900929 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L004.B_noUDG
0.02944123 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L003.B_noUDG
0.03027434 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L023.B_noUDG
0.03063272 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L006.B_noUDG
0.03069847 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L028.B_noUDG
0.03131728 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L026.B_noUDG
0.03247472 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L027.B_noUDG
0.03265353 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L022.B_noUDG
0.03265571 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L014.B_noUDG
0.03288457 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L001.B_noUDG
0.03316068 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L047.B_noUDG
0.03405167 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L032.B_noUDG
0.03462430 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L044.B_noUDG
0.03526714 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L008.B_noUDG
0.03638515 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L035.B_noUDG
0.03642481 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L016.B_noUDG
0.03671967 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L009.B_noUDG
0.03855673 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L041.B_noUDG
0.03884320 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L012.A_noUDG
0.03955907 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L034.A_noUDG
0.04237347 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L042.A_noUDG

Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L037.A_noUDG
Distance: 1.2577% / 0.01257707 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.8 Danish
22.2 Icelandic
15.8 Irish
13.2 French_Pas-de-Calais
5.6 Akhvakh
1.6 Iranian_Arab_Khuzestan
0.8 Colla

Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L037.A_noUDG
Distance: 1.4213% / 0.01421328 | ADC: 0.5x RC
51.6 Danish
24.4 Irish
9.8 Orcadian
7.4 Tabasaran
6.8 Afrikaner

Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L037.A_noUDG
Distance: 1.7935% / 0.01793495 | ADC: 1x RC
44.0 Dutch
38.2 Irish
17.8 Danish

Target: Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L037.A_noUDG
Distance: 1.8614% / 0.01861418 | ADC: 2x RC
53.4 Dutch
46.6 Scottish

Very interesting. I also get KIL001 with IllustrativeDNA Ancient Closest Pop (#8 overall), but also show KIL037 as closest of the Kilteasheen Anglo-Saxons using G25. We match on both platforms, at least for that group.

https://i.postimg.cc/MHdH8ZXq/roscommon-kil001.jpg (https://postimages.org/)



Distance to: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
0.02534592 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L037.A_noUDG
0.02934764 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L041.B_noUDG
0.02974909 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L004.B_noUDG
0.03049922 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L026.B_noUDG
0.03112923 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L022.B_noUDG
0.03325670 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L025.B_noUDG
0.03380099 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L013.B_noUDG
0.03465007 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L028.B_noUDG
0.03473488 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L009.B_noUDG
0.03476146 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L033.B_noUDG
0.03504174 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L014.B_noUDG
0.03623305 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L027.B_noUDG
0.03623309 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L003.B_noUDG
0.03711575 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L006.B_noUDG
0.03739761 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L002.B_noUDG
0.03768776 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L023.B_noUDG
0.03979065 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L001.B_noUDG
0.03994425 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L034.A_noUDG
0.04000313 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L008.B_noUDG
0.04015025 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L032.B_noUDG
0.04076145 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L035.B_noUDG
0.04201685 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L047.B_noUDG
0.04347258 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L044.B_noUDG
0.04375378 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L015.B_noUDG
0.04433508 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L016.B_noUDG


I do not understand how their coordinates would show .03979065 distance with their own G25 coordinates, yet on their site list my distance as .0191. Doesn't make any sense to me. It looks like KIL001 would fit your admixture better.

Ancestry-only data gives me even closer fit to KIL037 sample:


Distance to: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ancestry_Scaled
0.02162731 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L037.A_noUDG

[RyoHazuki]

Target: Gaul (Faux-Vesigneul): France_GrandEst_IA2.AG: I21931.AG
Genetic Fit: 2.364 (Good)
Northwest Europe
78.0%
North France
63.8%
French (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte)
49.8%
French (Normandy)
14.0%
Scandinavia
14.2%
Danish
14.2%
East-Central Europe
15.8%
West Slavic
15.8%
Czech
15.8%
Sardinia
2.0%
Sardinian
2.0%
Sardinian
2.0%
Southwest Europe
2.0%
Spanish
2.0%
Spanish (Pais Vasco)
2.0%
Americas
1.6%
Amerindian
1.6%
Aymara (Peru)
1.2%
Greenlander (East)
0.4%
Sub-Saharan African
0.6%
Khoisan
0.4%
Ju Hoansi (Namibia)
0.4%
Swahili
0.2%
Swahili (Pate)
0.2%

[Nurzat]

for my maternal grandma: Medieval South Slav (Doclea), which is closest to Croat @ 1.117 (out of modern pops she's closest to Serb @ 2.902).

for my dad: Post-Medieval Syrmia, which is closest to Slovenian @ 1.374 (out of modern pops he's closest to Ukrainian (Zakarpattia) @ 2.216).

[Dušan]

for my maternal grandma: Medieval South Slav (Doclea), which is closest to Croat @ 1.117 (out of modern pops she's closest to Serb @ 2.902).

for my dad: Post-Medieval Syrmia, which is closest to Slovenian @ 1.374 (out of modern pops he's closest to Ukrainian (Zakarpattia) @ 2.216).


I got medieval era mixed mode Post Medieval Syrmia with Byzantine-Greek admixture as closest.

It is interesting because I now live in Syrmia region :) (although not have direct ancestry in this region).

https://i.imgur.com/a4s6vMI.png

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Gaul (Faux-Vesigneul): France_GrandEst_IA2.AG: I21931.AG
Genetic Fit: 2.364 (Good)
Northwest Europe
78.0%
North France
63.8%
French (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte)
49.8%
French (Normandy)
14.0%
Scandinavia
14.2%
Danish
14.2%
East-Central Europe
15.8%
West Slavic
15.8%
Czech
15.8%
Sardinia
2.0%
Sardinian
2.0%
Sardinian
2.0%
Southwest Europe
2.0%
Spanish
2.0%
Spanish (Pais Vasco)
2.0%
Americas
1.6%
Amerindian
1.6%
Aymara (Peru)
1.2%
Greenlander (East)
0.4%
Sub-Saharan African
0.6%
Khoisan
0.4%
Ju Hoansi (Namibia)
0.4%
Swahili
0.2%
Swahili (Pate)
0.2%

Target: France_GrandEst_IA2:I21931
Distance: 2.8176% / 0.02817565 | ADC: 0.5x RC
27.4 Orcadian
19.8 Basque_Araba
19.0 Swiss_German
14.2 French_Seine-Maritime
11.6 French_Bearn
8.0 Chuvash

Target: France_GrandEst_IA2:I21931
Distance: 2.3701% / 0.02370077 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.6 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
23.4 Orcadian
15.0 Sorb_Niederlausitz
11.6 French_Seine-Maritime
7.6 Swiss_German
2.6 Chuvash
1.2 Surui
0.8 Ami
0.8 Biaka
0.4 Ju_hoan_North

[ScandinavianCelt]

I got medieval era mixed mode Post Medieval Syrmia with Byzantine-Greek admixture as closest.

It is interesting because I now live in Syrmia region :) (although not have direct ancestry in this region).

https://i.imgur.com/a4s6vMI.png

If you go to "Closest Populations" (Ancient tab) and run cursor over the mapped piece, you will see the actual sample they link you to, then run that against Mod Pop Ave!

[ScandinavianCelt]

Can someone explain how the Scotland, Pictish, Viking #207 gets a tiny piece of Bolivian?

Target: Scotland_Viking.SG:VK207_noUDG.SG
Distance: 2.1549% / 0.02154944
35.8 English_Cornwall
34.8 Shetlandic
20.0 Scottish
6.0 Irish
1.2 Bagvalin_o
0.8 Spanish_Asturias
0.6 Rajput_Madhya_Pradesh
0.4 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.2 Bolivian_Cochabamba
0.2 Ket

[Wend-Kruzek]

Soory : Only text

for me....... probably not the best

Medieval Dane (Zealand) very far away
3.105
Post-Medieval Syrmia
3.370
Post-Medieval Swede (Kronan's Crew)
3.415
Longobard (Pannonia)
3.472
Alemanni
3.499

15 samples 4 nearest

Target: Denmark_Zealand_Saxon_Medieval:KPN008.A_noUDG
Distance: 2.5099% / 0.02509862 | ADC: 0.5x RC
43.6 German_East
31.2 Finnish_Southwest
17.8 Basque_French
6.4 Spanish_Asturias
1.0 Orcadian


Target: Denmark_Zealand_Saxon_Medieval:KPN012.A_noUDG
Distance: 1.9300% / 0.01929969 | ADC: 0.5x RC
48.8 Danish
27.6 Slovakian
21.4 German_East
2.2 Swedish


Target: Denmark_Zealand_Saxon_Medieval:KPN011.A_noUDG
Distance: 2.3376% / 0.02337579 | ADC: 0.5x RC
61.4 Orcadian
27.6 German_East
9.2 Finnish_Southwest
1.8 Bolivian_Cochabamba


Target: Denmark_Zealand_Saxon_Medieval:KPN002.A_noUDG
Distance: 2.1611% / 0.02161138 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.4 Swedish
26.8 Slovakian
17.8 French_Pas-de-Calais

they probably don't have Hungarian samples yet;)

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 1.0981% / 0.01098131 | ADC: 0.5x RC
34.6 Denmark_Viking.SG
21.2 Hungary_Conqueror_Commoner
11.8 BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
11.4 Slovakia_IA_Vekerzug
8.4 Sweden_Viking.SG
6.6 Hungary_Conqueror_Elite
6.0 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG

ajeje samples cov_50%+

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 0.8615% / 0.00861497 | ADC: 0.5x RC
20.6 Hungary_LittleHungarianPlain_LateAvar
17.0 Denmark_Viking.SG
16.6 Hungary_Fonyód_EMA
12.4 Hungary_Conqueror_Commoner.SG
11.0 Czechia_EBA_Unetice_brother.I14185.AG
10.0 Slovakia_IA_Vekerzug.AG
6.4 Hungary_LittleHungarianPlain_EarlyHungarian
5.2 Poland_Maslomecz_Wielbark_IA.SG
0.8 Hungary_Visegrád_Medieval

but my samples from Hungary are of domestic and mixed origin:)

[ScandinavianCelt]

Soory : Only text

for me....... probably not the best

Medieval Dane (Zealand) very far away
3.105
Post-Medieval Syrmia
3.370
Post-Medieval Swede (Kronan's Crew)
3.415
Longobard (Pannonia)
3.472
Alemanni
3.499

15 samples 4 nearest

Target: Denmark_Zealand_Saxon_Medieval:KPN008.A_noUDG
Distance: 2.5099% / 0.02509862 | ADC: 0.5x RC
43.6 German_East
31.2 Finnish_Southwest
17.8 Basque_French
6.4 Spanish_Asturias
1.0 Orcadian


Target: Denmark_Zealand_Saxon_Medieval:KPN012.A_noUDG
Distance: 1.9300% / 0.01929969 | ADC: 0.5x RC
48.8 Danish
27.6 Slovakian
21.4 German_East
2.2 Swedish


Target: Denmark_Zealand_Saxon_Medieval:KPN011.A_noUDG
Distance: 2.3376% / 0.02337579 | ADC: 0.5x RC
61.4 Orcadian
27.6 German_East
9.2 Finnish_Southwest
1.8 Bolivian_Cochabamba


Target: Denmark_Zealand_Saxon_Medieval:KPN002.A_noUDG
Distance: 2.1611% / 0.02161138 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.4 Swedish
26.8 Slovakian
17.8 French_Pas-de-Calais

they probably don't have Hungarian samples yet;)

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 1.0981% / 0.01098131 | ADC: 0.5x RC
34.6 Denmark_Viking.SG
21.2 Hungary_Conqueror_Commoner
11.8 BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
11.4 Slovakia_IA_Vekerzug
8.4 Sweden_Viking.SG
6.6 Hungary_Conqueror_Elite
6.0 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG

ajeje samples cov_50%+

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 0.8615% / 0.00861497 | ADC: 0.5x RC
20.6 Hungary_LittleHungarianPlain_LateAvar
17.0 Denmark_Viking.SG
16.6 Hungary_Fonyód_EMA
12.4 Hungary_Conqueror_Commoner.SG
11.0 Czechia_EBA_Unetice_brother.I14185.AG
10.0 Slovakia_IA_Vekerzug.AG
6.4 Hungary_LittleHungarianPlain_EarlyHungarian
5.2 Poland_Maslomecz_Wielbark_IA.SG
0.8 Hungary_Visegrád_Medieval

but my samples from Hungary are of domestic and mixed origin:)

put cursor over dot with that sample on the map and they list a sample for you; now you have 4 Zealand, but which is the right one? German East one? look at the pic i posted and you can see

[gixajo]

Target: Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R12 89.SG
Distance: 2.0331% / 0.02033134 | ADC: 0.5x RC
37.0 Spanish_Soria
23.0 Spanish_Aragon
21.2 Swiss_French
12.0 Spanish_Castello
6.8 French_South

Target: Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R12 89.SG
Distance: 1.8510% / 0.01850970 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.8 Swiss_French
28.0 Spanish_Soria
20.2 Basque_Roncal
9.6 Sardinian
1.4 Nihali
1.4 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.6 Wichi

Central European?

Distance to: Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R12 89.SG
0.02305361 Spanish_Castello
0.02426763 Spanish_Girona
0.02447765 Spanish_Penedes
0.02515350 Spanish_Lleida
0.02536364 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02573626 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.02666899 Spanish_Pirineu
0.02672280 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.02673008 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02673204 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02680615 Spanish_Soria
0.02698921 Spanish_Aragon_North
0.02708447 Spanish_Aragon
0.02758021 Spanish_Cantabria
0.02766247 French_South
0.02845660 Spanish_Mallorca
0.02889340 French_Bigorre
0.02912154 Spanish_Baleares
0.02954421 Spanish_Biscay
0.02969662 Spanish_Valencia
0.02978624 French_Auvergne
0.02979358 Spanish_Burgos
0.02980114 Spanish_Alacant
0.03035307 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03054594 French_Chalosse


Date: AD 1411–1447

Y-DNA: -

mtDNA: K1a4a1

Location: Italy

[Beowulf]

Can someone explain how the Scotland, Pictish, Viking #207 gets a tiny piece of Bolivian?

Target: Scotland_Viking.SG:VK207_noUDG.SG
Distance: 2.1549% / 0.02154944
35.8 English_Cornwall
34.8 Shetlandic
20.0 Scottish
6.0 Irish
1.2 Bagvalin_o
0.8 Spanish_Asturias
0.6 Rajput_Madhya_Pradesh
0.4 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.2 Bolivian_Cochabamba
0.2 Ket

It's just some ANE noise :nod:

[Pohjanpoika]

https://i.imgur.com/Vm8EeOH.png


Target: Russia_VolgaOka_H:KBL002__AD_1787__Cov_81.75%
Distance: 0.9729% / 0.00972891 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.2 Russian_Tver
32.6 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
12.8 Finnish_Central
8.0 Moldovan_o
2.4 Yukagir_Forest
1.0 Ronga

Target: Russia_VolgaOka_H:KBL002__AD_1787__Cov_81.75%
Distance: 1.0638% / 0.01063784 | ADC: 0.5x RC
65.0 Russian_Tver
17.8 Moldovan_o
13.6 Finnish_Central
2.6 Moksha
1.0 Manyika

Target: Russia_VolgaOka_H:KED001__AD_1747__Cov_75.13%
Distance: 1.7370% / 0.01736996 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.8 Lithuanian_PZ
34.8 Finnish_North
10.2 Russian_Orel
7.8 Russian_Kaluga
6.4 Ratlub
3.0 SaudiB

Target: Russia_VolgaOka_H:KED001__AD_1747__Cov_75.13%
Distance: 1.9633% / 0.01963321 | ADC: 0.5x RC
58.0 Russian_Orel
32.6 Finnish_North
9.4 Lithuanian_PZ

Target: Russia_VolgaOka_H:KED002__AD_1772__Cov_52.77%
Distance: 1.9057% / 0.01905743 | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.8 Lithuanian_PA
30.6 Sorb_Niederlausitz
16.0 Ingrian
15.8 Finnish_East
3.0 Turkish_Chitak
2.4 Ket
0.4 Papuan_Highland_A

Target: Russia_VolgaOka_H:KED002__AD_1772__Cov_52.77%
Distance: 2.1529% / 0.02152925 | ADC: 0.5x RC
46.0 Ingrian
25.0 Russian_Tver
24.2 Sorb_Niederlausitz
4.8 Slovakian

Target: Russia_VolgaOka_H:KED003__AD_1634__Cov_80.19%
Distance: 1.9422% / 0.01942246 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.2 Russian_Pskov
17.6 Russian_Belgorod
13.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
10.2 Russian_Yaroslavl
9.4 Russian_Krasnoborsky
2.6 Sardinian
2.2 Nganasan
2.0 Russian_Voronez

Target: Russia_VolgaOka_H:KED003__AD_1634__Cov_80.19%
Distance: 2.1127% / 0.02112690 | ADC: 0.5x RC
44.0 Russian_Belgorod
31.6 Russian_Krasnoborsky
14.0 Russian_Orel
10.4 Russian_Yaroslavl

[Gannicus]

Number One Ancient on Illustrative:


Republic of Metz aka R2065, R2066 =France_Metz_GalloRoman.SG:R2065.SG & France_Metz_GalloRoman.SG:R2066.SG
2.103

The origins of Metz date back to well before the Gallo-Roman era. The Celtic tribe of the Mediomatricians is said to have settled on the Sainte-Croix hill towards the end of the 3rd century BC. The Romans transformed and extended the city, known as Divodurum Mediomatricorum at the time. The name of Metz city comes from this same tribe.A bourgeois rebellion freed the city from episcopal power in AD 1234. Metz became a free, oligarchical republic, under the protectorate of the Holy Roman Empire.

The Next 2 are worth mentioning because the distance difference is in the 2nd decimal


Iron Age Briton
2.132


Gaul (Bohemia)
2.182



Merged the 2 Gallo Roman Samples together to create G25 coords to match the average on Illustrative:

France_Metz_GalloRoman,0.1303275,0.1431895,0.05656 8,0.0402135,0.0400075,0.012829,0.0062275,0.0087685 ,0.007874,0.003462,-0.008201,0.0094415,-0.012859,-0.0092205,0.009161,0.0116015,0.004303,0.0050045,-0.000126,0.013194,0.005615,0.0037715,0.0022185,0.0 07471,-0.006347

Results to modern averages:

Distance to: France_Metz_GalloRoman
0.02487742 German
0.02517865 Dutch
0.02522537 French_Brittany
0.02537692 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02542351 BelgianB
0.02568772 Welsh
0.02811131 English
0.02847211 German_Erlangen
0.02878962 English_Cornwall
0.02890608 BelgianA
0.02926754 French_Nord
0.02929458 Afrikaner
0.03011397 Danish
0.03072432 French_Paris
0.03076946 BelgianC
0.03144990 French_Alsace
0.03146201 Scottish
0.03203742 German_Hamburg
0.03210484 Austrian
0.03252088 Orcadian
0.03358278 Irish
0.03366199 Swiss_German
0.03376771 Norwegian
0.03464525 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03561128 Shetlandic



Target: France_Metz_GalloRoman
Distance: 0.0208% / 0.02075048 | ADC: 1x RC
44.2 French_Pas-de-Calais
36.9 Dutch
18.9 German


Target: France_Metz_GalloRoman
Distance: 0.0193% / 0.01929194 | ADC: 0.5x RC
44.2 French_Pas-de-Calais
28.3 Danish
16.3 BelgianB
11.2 Slovakian

137433
137432

[RyoHazuki]

Can someone explain how the Scotland, Pictish, Viking #207 gets a tiny piece of Bolivian?

Target: Scotland_Viking.SG:VK207_noUDG.SG
Distance: 2.1549% / 0.02154944
35.8 English_Cornwall
34.8 Shetlandic
20.0 Scottish
6.0 Irish
1.2 Bagvalin_o
0.8 Spanish_Asturias
0.6 Rajput_Madhya_Pradesh
0.4 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.2 Bolivian_Cochabamba
0.2 Ket

0.2 doesn't mean anything really

[Wend-Kruzek]

put cursor over dot with that sample on the map and they list a sample for you; now you have 4 Zealand, but which is the right one? German East one? look at the pic i posted and you can see

I wrote 15 samples, I chose 4, for the distance,

All is one place .
denmark_zealand_saxon_medieval-
Territory: Denmark - Kopenhagen (Zealand region)

illustrative DNA should implement more samples and especially new ones

[Grace O'Malley]

Very interesting. I also get KIL001 with IllustrativeDNA Ancient Closest Pop (#8 overall), but also show KIL037 as closest of the Kilteasheen Anglo-Saxons using G25. We match on both platforms, at least for that group.

https://i.postimg.cc/MHdH8ZXq/roscommon-kil001.jpg (https://postimages.org/)



Distance to: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
0.02534592 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L037.A_noUDG
0.02934764 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L041.B_noUDG
0.02974909 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L004.B_noUDG
0.03049922 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L026.B_noUDG
0.03112923 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L022.B_noUDG
0.03325670 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L025.B_noUDG
0.03380099 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L013.B_noUDG
0.03465007 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L028.B_noUDG
0.03473488 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L009.B_noUDG
0.03476146 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L033.B_noUDG
0.03504174 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L014.B_noUDG
0.03623305 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L027.B_noUDG
0.03623309 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L003.B_noUDG
0.03711575 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L006.B_noUDG
0.03739761 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L002.B_noUDG
0.03768776 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L023.B_noUDG
0.03979065 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L001.B_noUDG
0.03994425 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L034.A_noUDG
0.04000313 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L008.B_noUDG
0.04015025 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L032.B_noUDG
0.04076145 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L035.B_noUDG
0.04201685 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L047.B_noUDG
0.04347258 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L044.B_noUDG
0.04375378 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L015.B_noUDG
0.04433508 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L016.B_noUDG


I do not understand how their coordinates would show .03979065 distance with their own G25 coordinates, yet on their site list my distance as .0191. Doesn't make any sense to me. It looks like KIL001 would fit your admixture better.

Ancestry-only data gives me even closer fit to KIL037 sample:


Distance to: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ancestry_Scaled
0.02162731 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KI L037.A_noUDG

This is from My Heritage Ancient Origins for the Kilteasheen samples

https://i.postimg.cc/FHVpX0Ds/Screenshot-2025-02-17-193905.png

[Highwayman]

1
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Republic of Metz
1.872
2
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Iron Age Briton
2.035
3
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Gaul (Bohemia)
2.122
4
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West European Crusader (Sidon)
2.185
5
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Medieval Gael (Roscommon)
2.229

[ScandinavianCelt]

1
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Republic of Metz
1.872
2
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Iron Age Briton
2.035
3
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Gaul (Bohemia)
2.122
4
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West European Crusader (Sidon)
2.185
5
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Medieval Gael (Roscommon)
2.229

OK, so locate your Metz sample on the map they give you and put cursor over it to see the individual sample, then use that to run against Modern Pop Ave Scaled to get your result.