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ScandinavianCelt
03-18-2025, 07:24 PM
Run the one-to-one autosomal test on Gedmatch with your best kit against kit number F999935

3 cM min

https://i.postimg.cc/0j8v280w/Screenshot-20250318-150222.png (https://postimg.cc/sQ0qTC8j)

nittionia
03-18-2025, 07:28 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Gjsdhtr.png

ScandinavianCelt
03-18-2025, 08:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Gjsdhtr.png

https://i.postimg.cc/KY1Sz2vs/Screenshot-20250318-155803-2.png (https://postimg.cc/7CrQsjzg)

This is their result against modern scaled not averages that's what they get with no penalty

Mopi The Dire Wolf
03-18-2025, 08:18 PM
Largest segment = 3.4 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 13.1cM (0.366 Pct)

4 shared segments found for this comparison.

839955 SNPs used for this comparison.

51.952 Percent of SNPs are full identical.

cass
03-18-2025, 09:02 PM
Largest segment = 5.4 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 9cM (0.251 Pct)

2 shared segments found for this comparison.

213376 SNPs used for this comparison.

47.668 Percent of SNPs are full identical.

Comparison took 0.295.
CPU time used: 0.037.

:cool:

Anatolya
03-18-2025, 09:09 PM
https://i.ibb.co/fd96cfFW/1-BD44-D04-E02-D-4729-8-FF4-1-C516-F58-BC22.jpg

hazmatnik
03-18-2025, 09:13 PM
No shared DNA segments found.

ScandinavianCelt
03-18-2025, 09:29 PM
You guys/gals can try your top 2-way against the Moriopoulos Siberia sample set.

I get:

0.0586153 SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA = 99% Sintashta_MLBA + 1% Ust_Ishim

Xavier727
03-18-2025, 09:37 PM
Largest segment = 3.5 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 10.2cM (0.285 Pct)

3 shared segments found for this comparison.

509352 SNPs used for this comparison.

49.044 Percent of SNPs are full identical.

cass
03-18-2025, 09:41 PM
You guys/gals can try your top 2-way against the Moriopoulos Siberia sample set.

I get:

0.0586153 SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA = 99% Sintashta_MLBA + 1% Ust_Ishim

0.069 cass = 99% Sintashta_MLBA + 1% Buryat_o1
0.069 cass = 97% Sintashta_MLBA + 3% Sintashta_MLBA_(contaminated)
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Afanasievo_CA
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Afanasievo_CA_Mongolia_(East_Asian_Profile)
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Afontova_Gora_LBA
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Afontova_Gora_UP
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Altai-Kizhi
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Altai-Kizhi_o
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Altaian
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Andronovo_MLBA_Orak
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Andronovo_MLBA_Orak_o
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Andronovo_MLBA_Potroshilovo
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Andronovo_MLBA_Ust-Bir

nittionia
03-18-2025, 09:45 PM
You guys/gals can try your top 2-way against the Moriopoulos Siberia sample set.

I get:

0.0586153 SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA = 99% Sintashta_MLBA + 1% Ust_Ishim

https://i.imgur.com/01t1euF.png

Benyzero
03-18-2025, 09:47 PM
Whos this ust ishim coomer?

ScandinavianCelt
03-18-2025, 10:00 PM
Whos this ust ishim coomer?

some 45,000 year old root of many

Gaditanian
03-19-2025, 12:14 AM
Largest segment = 8 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 8cM (0.222 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.4

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

172848 SNPs used for this comparison.

48.535 Percent of SNPs are full identical.

Comparison took 0.285.
CPU time used: 0.032.

Ver: Feb 25 2025 05 48 47

ScandinavianCelt
03-19-2025, 12:29 AM
0.069 cass = 99% Sintashta_MLBA + 1% Buryat_o1
0.069 cass = 97% Sintashta_MLBA + 3% Sintashta_MLBA_(contaminated)
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Afanasievo_CA
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Afanasievo_CA_Mongolia_(East_Asian_Profile)
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Afontova_Gora_LBA
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Afontova_Gora_UP
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Altai-Kizhi
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Altai-Kizhi_o
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Altaian
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Andronovo_MLBA_Orak
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Andronovo_MLBA_Orak_o
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Andronovo_MLBA_Potroshilovo
0.069 cass = 100% Sintashta_MLBA + 0% Andronovo_MLBA_Ust-Bir

I get the same result you got for number one but for number two in my list so whatever that means I don't know

Benyzero
03-19-2025, 12:43 AM
No match

R1b-L51
03-19-2025, 01:11 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/VLHWdmQv/segments.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

ScandinavianCelt
03-19-2025, 01:21 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/VLHWdmQv/segments.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

I'm guessing anyone with Basque or with specific Basque groups could get more so it makes sense to me that you would have a decent amount, and I imagine it comes through the Basque for you-- you could check the Basque pop averages to Ust Ishim and their distances and then see which one you match the most with

R1b-L51
03-19-2025, 01:33 AM
I'm guessing anyone with Basque or with specific Basque groups could get more so it makes sense to me that you would have a decent amount, and I imagine it comes through the Basque for you-- you could check the Basque pop averages to Ust Ishim and their distances and then see which one you match the most with

I have no idea what you're talking about. I shouldn't be Basque in principle, but some people insist on calling me that. The sample I'm usually closest to is the one AndreiDNA indicated as genetically similar to me.

Gyvakarai1_10bp, 0.12244312, 0.0867149, 0.05225324, 0.06092556, 0.01237556, 0.0244885, 0.00791422, 0.01062436, -0.00737058, -0.02484582, 0.00043062, -0.002 0716,0.00778678,-0.00232034,0.0023492,-0.00268724,-0.00679982,-0.00176806,-0.00297244,-0.00478052,0.00155092,0.00128408,-0.0059949,0.00726656,-0.0019295

Now you remind me that there is a species of Bell Baker (Proto-Basque) related to the Dutchman, according to Feichy.

Apparently this sample fits with Feichy's theory, so it would all make some sense, but it is not easy to search for proto-Basques, that is not easy. In principle, the Astyr tribes should have been something like early manifestations of Hallstatt and therefore proto-Basques, but too many things have happened since then, so we will wait to see if some other more "Basque" Spaniards can provide enlightening results.

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.11910383 Gyvakarai1_10bp

ScandinavianCelt
03-19-2025, 11:57 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/KY1Sz2vs/Screenshot-20250318-155803-2.png (https://postimg.cc/7CrQsjzg)

This is their result against modern scaled not averages that's what they get with no penalty


I have no idea what you're talking about. I shouldn't be Basque in principle, but some people insist on calling me that. The sample I'm usually closest to is the one AndreiDNA indicated as genetically similar to me.

Gyvakarai1_10bp, 0.12244312, 0.0867149, 0.05225324, 0.06092556, 0.01237556, 0.0244885, 0.00791422, 0.01062436, -0.00737058, -0.02484582, 0.00043062, -0.002 0716,0.00778678,-0.00232034,0.0023492,-0.00268724,-0.00679982,-0.00176806,-0.00297244,-0.00478052,0.00155092,0.00128408,-0.0059949,0.00726656,-0.0019295

Now you remind me that there is a species of Bell Baker (Proto-Basque) related to the Dutchman, according to Feichy.

Apparently this sample fits with Feichy's theory, so it would all make some sense, but it is not easy to search for proto-Basques, that is not easy. In principle, the Astyr tribes should have been something like early manifestations of Hallstatt and therefore proto-Basques, but too many things have happened since then, so we will wait to see if some other more "Basque" Spaniards can provide enlightening results.

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.11910383 Gyvakarai1_10bp

I'm just saying because this sample shows more connection to the Basque that you would probably be getting it through the Basque but I don't know how much Basque you get normally. Probably more than this sample though right?

R1b-L51
03-20-2025, 12:06 AM
I'm just saying because this sample shows more connection to the Basque that you would probably be getting it through the Basque but I don't know how much Basque you get normally. Probably more than this sample though right?


Probably friend, the problem we have is that I am truly mentally destitute in this particular field.

But I am going to try to show you how Basque Indo-Aryan is and how Basque I am.

I am not a biologist nor an expert on these topics but I believe that the Navarrese samples represent the purest essence of Basqueism, since paradoxically history in Spain has always been manipulated by political interests, but in the past the Basques were in Navarre and the current Euskadi was known as Vascongadas (something like the outskirts of the Basques) and they were another part of Castilla, therefore being less Basque than the Navarrese.

USING YOUR CALCULATOR:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?393433-Select-Moderne

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.9015% / 0.01901482
45.6 Basque_&_SW_France
25.8 Portugal
12.6 Levantine
7.4 East_Europe
5.8 Sardinian
2.8 North_Caucasus


Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.9014% / 0.01901415
24.8 Basque_&_SW_France:Basque_Spain
23.4 Portugalortuguese
20.2 Basque_&_SW_France:Basque_Spain_Navarre_Northwest
8.4 Levantine:Lebanese_Muslim_Sunni_(SSA-Mixed_Profile)
5.8 Sardinian:Sardinian_Benetutti
5.0 East_Europe:Ukrainian_Volyn
4.0 Levantine:Syrian_Deir_ez-Zor_(SSA-Mixed_Profile)
3.2 Portugalortuguese_Azores
2.8 North_Caucasus:Karachay
2.4 East_Europe:Russian_Arkhangelsk_Leshukonsky

Target: Gyvakarai1_10bp
Distance: 1.4328% / 0.01432761
53.2 East_Europe
24.6 British_Islanders
9.4 North_Mesopotamia
9.2 North_Caucasus
3.6 Baltic

Target: Gyvakarai1_10bp
Distance: 1.4328% / 0.01432761
33.2 East_Europe:Russian_Arkhangelsk_Leshukonsky
17.0 British_Islanders:Scottish_Argyll_and_Bute
11.2 East_Europe:Russian_Arkhangelsk_Pinezhsky
9.4 North_Mesopotamia:Kurdish_Iran_Kermanshah
9.2 North_Caucasus:Darginian
7.4 British_Islanders:Irish_Ulster
4.8 East_Europe:Ukrainian_Volyn
4.0 East_Europe:Ukrainian_Kropyvnytskyi
3.8 Baltic:Estonian


IN PRINCIPLE THE INDOARIAN SAMPLE IS NOT BASQUE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO MORE OLD BASQUE SPECTRUMS, SIMPLY TO THE EARLY BELL BEAKER

gixajo
03-20-2025, 12:27 AM
No shared DNA segments found

213623 SNPs used for this comparison.

47.308 Percent of SNPs are full identical.

Comparison took 0.307.
CPU time used: 0.037.

gixajo
03-20-2025, 12:29 AM
I'm just saying because this sample shows more connection to the Basque that you would probably be getting it through the Basque but I don't know how much Basque you get normally. Probably more than this sample though right?

This is gixajo enana results. 50% Basque Biscay+25% Basque Araba+(25% Andalusia Jaén)

No shared DNA segments found

213526 SNPs used for this comparison.

47.416 Percent of SNPs are full identical.

Comparison took 0.295.
CPU time used: 0.035.

R1b-L51
03-20-2025, 07:29 PM
I'm just saying because this sample shows more connection to the Basque that you would probably be getting it through the Basque but I don't know how much Basque you get normally. Probably more than this sample though right?

Yes You were right!

I simply wanted to know where my genetic proximity to this individual came from.

But thanks to AndreiDNA's video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsaRm91aqZM

I now know that it comes from my basque/celtic side R-L21 (the same as the Irish/Scotts), plus the Taforalt (punic-roman?) heritage that I imagine includes Jarawa and Sandawe.

https://i.postimg.cc/28V6mY2G/Screenshot-2025-03-20-at-19-51-46-Ust-Ishim-DNA-Appearance-of-Stone-Age-Siberian-You-Tube.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/tRfb3xNd/segments.jpg (https://postimages.org/)