Aryan K19 v1 (UNscaled) [Archive] - The Apricity Forum: A European Cultural Community

ScandinavianCelt

03-19-2025, 03:20 PM

EasternLusitanian

03-19-2025, 03:36 PM

ScandinavianCelt

03-19-2025, 03:41 PM

If you don't have any Arctic components, try removing that ONE.

Gannicus

03-19-2025, 03:42 PM

ScandinavianCelt

03-19-2025, 03:47 PM

Target: Gannicus_Mergedfile_officialDavidski_unscaled
Distance: 0.0375% / 0.03754952 | ADC: 0.25x RC
32.8 Aryan1
30.1 Italian_Originals
25.9 Aryan3(Aryan-North_Indian_mix)
9.2 Inuit
2.0 Semitic_South-Arabic

May need to pick a different Amerindian sample. It doesn't make sense with my other admixture data known ancestry

It represents Arctic. Other Amerindian samples are North, Central, and South.

Also, it may represent something like Saami, in the calc, which you may inherit more of in more modern times than some of the other components. It could be a Saami-Arctic total %. Nevertheless, try removing it.

Dušan

03-19-2025, 03:56 PM

Target: Dušan_unscaled
Distance: 2.0881% / 0.02088122
50.2 Aryan2:Latvian
28.0 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
12.6 South_Caucasian:Georgian_Svaneti
3.8 Aryan1:Estonian
2.4 Inuit:Greenlander_West
2.0 Ancient_South_Indian:Paniya
0.6 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal
0.2 Melanesian:Papuan
0.2 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San

ScandinavianCelt

03-19-2025, 04:01 PM

Target: MV
Distance: 0.0193% / 0.01928740
42.0 Italian_Originals
22.9 Arab&Berber
12.8 Aryan1
11.8 Aryan3(Aryan-North_Indian_mix)
6.1 Inuit
3.5 South_Caucasian
0.6 Melanesian
0.2 Semitic_South-Arabic
0.1 South_African_Bushmen

Target: Gannicus_Mergedfile_officialDavidski_unscaled
Distance: 0.0375% / 0.03754952 | ADC: 0.25x RC
32.8 Aryan1
30.1 Italian_Originals
25.9 Aryan3(Aryan-North_Indian_mix)
9.2 Inuit
2.0 Semitic_South-Arabic

May need to pick a different Amerindian sample. It doesn't make sense with my other admixture data known ancestry

I removed Inuit. Please try again.

EasternLusitanian

03-19-2025, 04:02 PM

If you don't have any Arctic components, try removing that ONE.

Target: MV
Distance: 0.0199% / 0.01988500
41.9 Italian_Originals
24.0 Arab&Berber
15.1 Aryan1
13.2 Aryan3(Aryan-North_Indian_mix)
3.9 South_Caucasian
0.9 Indigenous_Brazil
0.7 Melanesian
0.2 South_African_Bushmen
0.1 Semitic_South-Arabic

noricum

03-19-2025, 05:36 PM

Target: G25unoricum
Distance: 1.8510% / 0.01850983
63.2 Aryan1:Estonian
24.0 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
12.2 Aryan3(Aryan-North_Indian_mix):Ror
0.6 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San

updated K19
Target: G25unoricum
Distance: 1.8118% / 0.01811786
62.0 Aryan1:Estonian
22.8 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
6.0 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
4.8 Iranian:Iranian_Mazandarani
3.0 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix):Ror
0.8 NE_African_HG:Ethiopian_Jew
0.6 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San

ScandinavianCelt

03-19-2025, 05:53 PM

Updated to K19.

Done updating it.

hazmatnik

03-19-2025, 05:57 PM

Target: Nikola
Distance: 2.1674% / 0.02167404
51.8 Aryan1
25.4 Italian_Originals
14.2 Iranian
5.4 Semitic_South-Arabic
2.0 Taiwanese_Indigenous
0.6 Indigenous_Canadian
0.6 South_African_Bushmen

tk'es

03-19-2025, 07:43 PM

Target: tk'es
Distance: 2.8593% / 0.02859341
68.4 South_Caucasian:Ossetian
19.8 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
4.6 NE_African_HG:Ethiopian_Jew
4.0 Aryan1:Estonian
1.6 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal
1.2 Indigenous_Canadian:Cree
0.4 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San

Gannicus

03-19-2025, 08:00 PM

Target: Gannicus_Mergedfile_officialDavidski_unscaled
Distance: 0.0372% / 0.03718829
31.4 Aryan1
29.4 Italian_Originals
29.2 Aryan4
4.9 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix)
2.5 NE_African_HG
2.1 Indigenous_Canadian
0.5 Melanesian

Target: Gannicus_Mergedfile_officialDavidski_unscaled
Distance: 0.0374% / 0.03740898 | ADC: 0.5x RC
36.3 Aryan4
33.2 Aryan1
30.5 Italian_Originals

using unscaled G25 coordinates for admixture modeling can be misleading or even outright false in some cases. Here’s why:

🔹 1. Unscaled Coordinates Are Sensitive to Drift and Distance Bias
Unscaled coordinates retain genetic drift, which can inflate or deflate genetic distances unevenly.
This means some populations might look closer or more distant than they actually are in terms of ancestry.
Results might overestimate or underestimate admixture from certain sources.
🔹 2. Unscaled Data Can Skew Admixture Proportions
If a source population is genetically distant from the target, the model might compensate by inflating its proportion.
You might see admixture percentages that don't make historical or genetic sense.
For example: A European with a small trace of Near Eastern ancestry might get an exaggerated percentage because of how distances are handled in unscaled data.
🔹 3. Most Admixture Models Are Designed for Scaled Data
qpAdm, G25 nMontes, and Vahaduo calculators are typically optimized for scaled coordinates.
Scaled G25 data removes drift and normalizes the genetic space, making populations more comparable across different time periods and regions.
🔹 4. False Positives and Overfitting
Unscaled data may randomly assign small admixture components that don’t reflect real ancestry.
This can make a model look "fitted" but actually be overfitting random noise.
Example: You might get a few percent of an ancient population that you have no real connection to.
✅ Best Practice: Always Use Scaled G25 for Admixture Modeling
If you're testing admixture proportions, stick to scaled G25 coordinates whenever possible.
Unscaled data is more useful for deep ancestry analysis (like PCA plots) but not for admixture models.

If you're unsure whether a model is being affected by unscaled data, try running the same model with both scaled and unscaled coordinates and compare the differences. If they’re significantly different, it’s a sign that the unscaled results may be unreliable.

cass

03-19-2025, 08:22 PM

Target: cass_unscaled
Distance: 1.0581% / 0.01058052
72.0 Aryan1:Estonian
15.0 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
5.8 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
3.4 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix):Ror
2.4 South_Caucasian:Georgian_Svaneti
1.0 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal
0.4 Semitic_South-Arabic:Yemenite_Mahra

Target: cass_unscaled
Distance: 1.0744% / 0.01074422 | ADC: 0.5x RC
72.2 Aryan1:Estonian
16.0 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
11.8 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi

Xavier727

03-19-2025, 08:37 PM

Target:
Distance: 3.0667% / 0.03066712
41.0 Aryan1
32.8 Aryan4
20.8 Italian_Originals
2.4 Indigenous_Canadian
1.8 Levant_Chalcolithic
0.6 NE_African_HG
0.6 South_African_Bushmen

Target:
Distance: 3.0717% / 0.03071698 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.4 Aryan1
33.2 Aryan4
21.0 Italian_Originals
2.4 Indigenous_Canadian
2.0 Levant_Chalcolithic

Target:
Distance: 3.0887% / 0.03088721 | ADC: 0.5x RC
42.2 Aryan1
35.4 Aryan4
22.4 Italian_Originals

Target:
Distance: 3.0887% / 0.03088721 | ADC: 1x RC
42.2 Aryan1
35.4 Aryan4
22.4 Italian_Originals

Target:
Distance: 3.6774% / 0.03677398 | ADC: 2x RC
52.8 Aryan1
47.2 Aryan4

ScandinavianCelt

03-19-2025, 10:05 PM

Target: Gannicus_Mergedfile_officialDavidski_unscaled
Distance: 0.0372% / 0.03718829
31.4 Aryan1
29.4 Italian_Originals
29.2 Aryan4
4.9 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix)
2.5 NE_African_HG
2.1 Indigenous_Canadian
0.5 Melanesian

Target: Gannicus_Mergedfile_officialDavidski_unscaled
Distance: 0.0374% / 0.03740898 | ADC: 0.5x RC
36.3 Aryan4
33.2 Aryan1
30.5 Italian_Originals

using unscaled G25 coordinates for admixture modeling can be misleading or even outright false in some cases. Here’s why:

�� 1. Unscaled Coordinates Are Sensitive to Drift and Distance Bias
Unscaled coordinates retain genetic drift, which can inflate or deflate genetic distances unevenly.
This means some populations might look closer or more distant than they actually are in terms of ancestry.
Results might overestimate or underestimate admixture from certain sources.
�� 2. Unscaled Data Can Skew Admixture Proportions
If a source population is genetically distant from the target, the model might compensate by inflating its proportion.
You might see admixture percentages that don't make historical or genetic sense.
For example: A European with a small trace of Near Eastern ancestry might get an exaggerated percentage because of how distances are handled in unscaled data.
�� 3. Most Admixture Models Are Designed for Scaled Data
qpAdm, G25 nMontes, and Vahaduo calculators are typically optimized for scaled coordinates.
Scaled G25 data removes drift and normalizes the genetic space, making populations more comparable across different time periods and regions.
�� 4. False Positives and Overfitting
Unscaled data may randomly assign small admixture components that don’t reflect real ancestry.
This can make a model look "fitted" but actually be overfitting random noise.
Example: You might get a few percent of an ancient population that you have no real connection to.
✅ Best Practice: Always Use Scaled G25 for Admixture Modeling
If you're testing admixture proportions, stick to scaled G25 coordinates whenever possible.
Unscaled data is more useful for deep ancestry analysis (like PCA plots) but not for admixture models.

If you're unsure whether a model is being affected by unscaled data, try running the same model with both scaled and unscaled coordinates and compare the differences. If they’re significantly different, it’s a sign that the unscaled results may be unreliable.

I can try to make the same calculator with scaled coordinates later maybe this evening or tomorrow with the same samples the same 19 if you want to do it you can do it

Wend-Kruzek

03-19-2025, 11:05 PM

Distance to: Kruzek
0.02634320 Aryan1:Estonian
0.03431446 Aryan2:Latvian
0.05316451 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.05871538 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix):Ror
0.06175564 Iranian:Iranian_Mazandarani
0.06423574 South_Caucasian:Ossetian
0.07257004 South_Caucasian:Georgian_Svaneti
0.07677352 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
0.08462080 Arab&Berber:Moroccan
0.08553600 Levant_Chalcolithic:Moroccan_North
0.09488784 NE_African_HG:Ethiopian_Jew
0.10107841 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal
0.10135939 Semitic_South-Arabic:Yemenite_Mahra
0.11312429 Ancient_South_Indian:Paniya
0.11585975 Indigenous_Canadian:Cree
0.19922555 MesoAmerican:Mayan
0.23055922 Indigenous_Brazil:Karitiana
0.23572294 Melanesian:Papuan
0.27172669 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San

Target: Kruzek
Distance: 1.3922% / 0.01392213
68.6 Aryan1:Estonian
16.0 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
8.2 South_Caucasian:Ossetian
5.0 Iranian:Iranian_Mazandarani
1.2 Indigenous_Brazil:Karitiana
1.0 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal

AndreiDNA

03-19-2025, 11:22 PM

Rædwald

03-19-2025, 11:50 PM

Target: Rædwald_unscaled
Distance: 2.5389% / 0.02538878 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.4 Aryan1:Estonian
28.2 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
12.4 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
11.8 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix):Ror
3.2 Indigenous_Canadian:Cree**

Target: Rædwald_unscaled
Distance: 2.5342% / 0.02534152
43.8 Aryan1:Estonian
27.8 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
11.8 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix):Ror
11.8 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
3.0 Indigenous_Canadian:Cree**
1.4 NE_African_HG:Ethiopian_Jew
0.2 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San
0.2 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal

**pretty neat

ScandinavianCelt

03-20-2025, 12:18 AM

Target: AndreiKharchenko
Distance: 1.9197% / 0.01919692
59.4 Aryan1:Estonian
20.4 Aryan2:Latvian
8.2 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
6.2 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
3.6 Indigenous_Canadian:Cree
1.8 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal
0.4 South_Caucasian:Georgian_Svaneti

Target: AndreiKharchenko
Distance: 1.9905% / 0.01990545 | R3P
83.2 Aryan1:Estonian
10.8 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
6.0 Italian_Originals:Sardinian

You win the White-Boy trophy. I wish there was a test to show the actual variants for whiteness each of us has. Some of us may have gotten white genetics through Neolithic Anatolia, while others got it via Eurasia. Also, do you never score any Ror on calcs?

R1b-L51

03-20-2025, 01:36 AM

INDOARYAN EUROPEANS ANCESTOR Gyvakarai1_10bp

Distance to: Gyvakarai1_10bp
0.14534949 Aryan1:Estonian
0.14658060 Aryan2:Latvian
0.16722240 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.16987635 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix):Ror
0.17579747 South_Caucasian:Ossetian
0.17743134 Iranian:Iranian_Mazandarani
0.18039246 South_Caucasian:Georgian_Svaneti
0.18418205 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
0.19641942 Levant_Chalcolithic:Moroccan_North
0.19872005 Arab&Berber:Moroccan
0.20450958 Semitic_South-Arabic:Yemenite_Mahra
0.20672544 Indigenous_Canadian:Cree
0.20955873 NE_African_HG:Ethiopian_Jew
0.21381143 Ancient_South_Indian:Paniya
0.21743373 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal
0.26833052 MesoAmerican:Mayan
0.29292104 Indigenous_Brazil:Karitiana
0.30210326 Melanesian:Papuan
0.33646512 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San

Target: Gyvakarai1_10bp
Distance: 14.5349% / 0.14534949
100.0 Aryan1

R1b-L51

03-20-2025, 01:40 AM

surprised by that Ossetian

Target: ROBERTOFERN
Distance: 2.0227% / 0.02022731
43.0 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
20.6 Aryan1:Estonian
15.6 Levant_Chalcolithic:Moroccan_North
9.0 South_Caucasian:Ossetian
8.4 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix):Ror
1.4 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San
0.8 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal
0.6 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.6 Melanesian:Papuan

Target: ROBERTOFERN
Distance: 2.0283% / 0.02028293 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.4 Italian_Originals
21.0 Aryan1
15.6 Levant_Chalcolithic
9.2 South_Caucasian
8.4 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix)
1.4 South_African_Bushmen
1.0 Aryan4

Target: ROBERTOFERN
Distance: 2.0637% / 0.02063655 | ADC: 0.5x RC
43.6 Italian_Originals
21.2 Aryan1
15.8 Levant_Chalcolithic
9.4 South_Caucasian
8.6 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix)
1.4 Aryan4

Target: ROBERTOFERN
Distance: 2.1225% / 0.02122475 | ADC: 1x RC
44.8 Italian_Originals
21.6 Aryan1
17.2 Aryan4
16.4 Levant_Chalcolithic

Target: ROBERTOFERN
Distance: 2.4190% / 0.02418952 | ADC: 2x RC
54.6 Italian_Originals
24.2 Aryan1
21.2 Aryan4

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN
0.04710271 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
0.06250536 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.06263296 Aryan1:Estonian
0.06315874 Levant_Chalcolithic:Moroccan_North
0.06505286 Arab&Berber:Moroccan
0.06646773 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix):Ror
0.06711223 Iranian:Iranian_Mazandarani
0.06778484 South_Caucasian:Ossetian
0.07198297 Aryan2:Latvian
0.07486146 South_Caucasian:Georgian_Svaneti
0.09257346 NE_African_HG:Ethiopian_Jew
0.09637729 Semitic_South-Arabic:Yemenite_Mahra
0.10139819 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal
0.11012523 Ancient_South_Indian:Paniya
0.12367397 Indigenous_Canadian:Cree
0.20550710 MesoAmerican:Mayan
0.23380558 Melanesian:Papuan
0.23672198 Indigenous_Brazil:Karitiana
0.26716201 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San

ScandinavianCelt

03-20-2025, 08:24 PM

Target: SC_Official_Averaged_UNscaled
Distance: 2.8033% / 0.02803284
46.2 Aryan1:Estonian
16.6 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
14.6 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix):Ror
10.4 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
5.0 Levant_Chalcolithic:Moroccan_North
3.2 South_Caucasian:Ossetian
1.8 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San
1.4 Indigenous_Canadian:Cree
0.8 Melanesian:Papuan

Just did this in SCALED FORM now: Aryan goes up from 71.2% in unscaled, to 73% in scaled. Not a huge difference, and minor elements fade off the board.

Aryan elements highlighted:

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 4.3464% / 0.04346403
62.2 Estonian
22.8 Sardinian
6.2 Tajik_Yaghnobi
4.6 Ror
4.0 Georgian_Svaneti
0.2 Khomani_San

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 4.3665% / 0.04366508 | ADC: 0.5x RC
61.0 Estonian
23.2 Sardinian
15.8 Tajik_Yaghnobi

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 7.8505% / 0.07850538 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Estonian

Here is the scaled Source set if you'd like to try and compare to your unscaled results:

<iframe src="https://pastebin.com/embed_iframe/3ADHqcLz" style="border:none;width:50%"></iframe>

@Gannicus

R1b-L51

03-20-2025, 08:37 PM

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 2.9256% / 0.02925639
45.8 Sardinian
30.2 Estonian
13.4 Moroccan_North
7.0 Ossetian
3.2 Ror
0.4 Papuan

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 2.9552% / 0.02955244 | ADC: 0.5x RC
45.2 Sardinian
29.8 Estonian
13.8 Moroccan_North
6.0 Tajik_Yaghnobi
5.2 Ossetian

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 3.8591% / 0.03859086 | ADC: 1x RC
57.4 Sardinian
25.6 Estonian
17.0 Tajik_Yaghnobi

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.09476016 Sardinian
0.14189821 Estonian
0.15509476 Latvian
0.15980071 Ossetian
0.16596144 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.17319157 Georgian_Svaneti
0.17541585 Moroccan_North
0.18219594 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.21677163 Yemenite_Mahra
0.22379257 Moroccan
0.22586267 Ror
0.38334124 Ethiopian_Jew
0.43557915 Cree
0.44860694 Paniya
0.61897183 Atayal
0.64787650 Mayan
0.71939586 Karitiana
0.80009733 Papuan
0.83814735 Khomani_San

unmoggable

03-21-2025, 06:05 AM

Target: unmoggable_unscaled
Distance: 2.8655% / 0.02865549
41.4 Aryan1
28.0 Aryan4
22.8 Italian_Originals
3.8 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix)
1.4 NE_African_HG
1.0 South_Caucasian
0.4 Levant_Chalcolithic
0.4 South_African_Bushmen
0.4 Taiwanese_Indigenous
0.2 Indigenous_Canadian
0.2 Melanesian

0.04586188 Aryan1:Estonian
0.04886033 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.05495542 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix):Ror
0.05733539 Aryan2:Latvian
0.06329268 Iranian:Iranian_Mazandarani
0.06502832 South_Caucasian:Ossetian
0.07325675 South_Caucasian:Georgian_Svaneti
0.07375323 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
0.08115923 Arab&Berber:Moroccan
0.08236333 Levant_Chalcolithic:Moroccan_North
0.09345096 NE_African_HG:Ethiopian_Jew
0.10038586 Semitic_South-Arabic:Yemenite_Mahra
0.10170854 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal
0.11458254 Ancient_South_Indian:Paniya
0.11832996 Indigenous_Canadian:Cree
0.20263422 MesoAmerican:Mayan
0.23378131 Indigenous_Brazil:Karitiana
0.23505334 Melanesian:Papuan
0.26943669 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San

Impaler

03-21-2025, 08:30 AM

Target: Impaler
Distance: 1.4456% / 0.01445603
28.4 Aryan1:Estonian
26.0 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
25.8 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
7.6 Iranian:Iranian_Mazandarani
5.4 Ancient_South_Indian: Paniya
3.0 Arab&Berber:Moroccan
2.0 Semitic_South-Arabic:Yemenite_Mahra
0.8 Indigenous_Canadian:Cree
0.4 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San
0.4 South_Caucasian:Georgian_Svaneti
0.2 NE_African_HG:Ethiopian_Jew

Target: Impaler_Father
Distance: 1.7732% / 0.01773195
31.4 Iranian:Iranian_Mazandarani
22.2 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
16.8 Aryan2:Latvian
12.2 Aryan1:Estonian
9.4 Ancient_South_Indian: Paniya
3.6 South_Caucasian:Ossetian
3.2 Levant_Chalcolithic:Moroccan_North
1.2 Melanesian: Papuan

Mrozek231

03-21-2025, 10:35 PM

Target: mrozek231_unscaled
Distance: 1.4657% / 0.01465669
87.6 Aryan1:Estonian
6.0 Iranian:Iranian_Mazandarani
3.2 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
2.0 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San
1.0 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
0.2 Melanesian:Papuan

Rafael Passoni

03-22-2025, 01:46 AM

Target: me
Distance: 2.2794% / 0.02279379
49.6 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
22.0 Aryan1:Estonian
15.2 South_Caucasian:Georgian_Svaneti
3.2 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal
2.8 NE_African_HG:Ethiopian_Jew
2.0 Ancient_South_Indian:Paniya
1.8 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
1.6 Indigenous_Canadian:Cree
1.6 Semitic_South-Arabic:Yemenite_Mahra
0.2 Melanesian:Papuan

Kenshiro

03-23-2025, 06:14 PM

Target: Kenshiro
Distance: 1.7446% / 0.01744618
44.2 Italian_Originals
17.8 Aryan4
15.4 South_Caucasian
11.6 Aryan1
4.6 Iranian
3.4 NE_African_HG
2.2 Indigenous_Canadian
0.6 South_African_Bushmen
0.2 Melanesian

Fabricius

03-26-2025, 01:33 AM

Target: Fabricius_g25_unscaled
Distance: 1.0506% / 0.01050641
34.8 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
32.8 Aryan1:Estonian
13.2 Arab&Berber:Moroccan
7.4 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
6.2 South_Caucasian:Ossetian
2.6 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix):Ror
1.8 Indigenous_Canadian:Cree
0.6 NE_African_HG:Ethiopian_Jew
0.6 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal

Target: Fabricius_g25_unscaled
Distance: 2.1116% / 0.02111558 | ADC: 2x
60.6 Aryan1
39.4 Italian_Originals

Distance to: Fabricius_g25_unscaled
0.04945653 Aryan1:Estonian
0.05319452 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
0.05391231 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.05855754 Aryan2:Latvian
0.05938332 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix):Ror
0.06000016 Iranian:Iranian_Mazandarani
0.06300229 South_Caucasian:Ossetian
0.06416085 Arab&Berber:Moroccan
0.06443155 Levant_Chalcolithic:Moroccan_North
0.07007471 South_Caucasian:Georgian_Svaneti
0.08684403 NE_African_HG:Ethiopian_Jew
0.09065747 Semitic_South-Arabic:Yemenite_Mahra
0.09846690 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal
0.10763527 Ancient_South_Indian:Paniya
0.11664596 Indigenous_Canadian:Cree
0.20030618 MesoAmerican:Mayan
0.23185211 Indigenous_Brazil:Karitiana
0.23375247 Melanesian:Papuan
0.27079270 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San

Fabricius

03-26-2025, 01:36 AM

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I liked 0.5x
Target: Fabricius_g25_unscaled
Distance: 1.1262% / 0.01126202 | ADC: 0.5x
36.8 Italian_Originals
35.8 Aryan1
14.8 Aryan4
11.2 Arab&Berber
1.4 South_Caucasian

ScandinavianCelt

03-26-2025, 02:22 AM

Just did this in SCALED FORM now: Aryan goes up from 71.2% in unscaled, to 73% in scaled. Not a huge difference, and minor elements fade off the board.

Aryan elements highlighted:

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 4.3464% / 0.04346403
62.2 Estonian
22.8 Sardinian
6.2 Tajik_Yaghnobi
4.6 Ror
4.0 Georgian_Svaneti
0.2 Khomani_San

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 4.3665% / 0.04366508 | ADC: 0.5x RC
61.0 Estonian
23.2 Sardinian
15.8 Tajik_Yaghnobi

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 7.8505% / 0.07850538 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Estonian

Here is the scaled Source set if you'd like to try and compare to your unscaled results:

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@Gannicus

try merged imputed

75.8% @ no ADC:

Target: SC_Merged_Imputed
Distance: 3.9743% / 0.03974337
62.2 Estonian
23.0 Sardinian
13.6 Tajik_Yaghnobi
1.2 Georgian_Svaneti

Target: SC_Merged_Imputed
Distance: 3.9761% / 0.03976131 | ADC: 0.5x RC
62.0 Estonian
23.4 Sardinian
14.6 Tajik_Yaghnobi

Centromeres & LCR!

90.4% @ no ADC

Target: SC_K36_Centromeres&LCR_Merged_G25
Distance: 6.2461% / 0.06246093
73.6 Estonian
15.2 Tajik_Yaghnobi
4.8 Sardinian
2.8 Papuan
2.0 Cree
1.6 Ror

ScandinavianCelt

03-26-2025, 02:30 AM

I liked 0.5x
Target: Fabricius_g25_unscaled
Distance: 1.1262% / 0.01126202 | ADC: 0.5x
36.8 Italian_Originals
35.8 Aryan1
14.8 Aryan4
11.2 Arab&Berber
1.4 South_Caucasian

try the scaled version to compare

Fabricius

03-27-2025, 01:51 AM

try the scaled version to compare

As has happened with other scaled models, the Maghreb is overpowered (interestingly this model has SSA sample and I also tried it with a Central African sample, but little changed).
The scaled is satisfactory with the 2x ADC and this 8% distance xD

Target: Fabricius_g25_scaled
Distance: 8.4489% / 0.08448872 | ADC: 2x
73.2 Sardinian
26.8 Estonian

Target: Fabricius_g25_scaled
Distance: 3.9638% / 0.03963766 | ADC: 1x
38.4 Sardinian
36.2 Estonian
22.4 Moroccan_North
3.0 Tajik_Yaghnobi

Target: Fabricius_g25_scaled
Distance: 2.1990% / 0.02198987 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.2 Estonian
30.6 Sardinian
21.6 Moroccan
6.2 Ossetian
2.8 Tajik_Yaghnobi
1.6 Khomani_San

Target: Fabricius_g25_scaled
Distance: 2.1749% / 0.02174852
37.8 Estonian
31.0 Sardinian
19.6 Moroccan
6.0 Georgian_Svaneti
2.4 Tajik_Yaghnobi
1.6 Khomani_San
1.4 Ethiopian_Jew
0.2 Cree

Distance to: Fabricius_g25_scaled
0.12251633 Sardinian
0.13934209 Estonian
0.15136001 Latvian
0.15381714 Moroccan_North
0.15734058 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.15745231 Ossetian
0.17218951 Georgian_Svaneti
0.17498621 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.19511188 Moroccan
0.21026647 Yemenite_Mahra
0.21581583 Ror
0.34930279 Ethiopian_Jew
0.42447303 Cree
0.43780063 Paniya
0.61095829 Atayal
0.63679998 Mayan
0.70870037 Karitiana
0.79567493 Papuan
0.80941566 Khomani_San (This sample is a curious atypical SSA; anyway, as I have said, I tried with Yoruba and the Moroccan continued strong.)

I preferred the unscaled one.

noricum

03-27-2025, 04:25 AM

Target: G25unoricum
Distance: 1.8118% / 0.01811786
62.0 Aryan1
22.8 Italian_Originals
6.0 Aryan4
4.8 Iranian
3.0 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix)
0.8 NE_African_HG
0.6 South_African_Bushmen

Distance to: G25unoricum
0.03264822 Aryan1:Estonian
0.04121097 Aryan2:Latvian
0.05303380 Aryan4:Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.05809192 Aryan3_(Aryan-North_Indian_mix):Ror
0.06204085 Iranian:Iranian_Mazandarani
0.06987886 South_Caucasian:Ossetian
0.07213224 Italian_Originals:Sardinian
0.07850835 South_Caucasian:Georgian_Svaneti
0.08161563 Arab&Berber:Moroccan
0.08247861 Levant_Chalcolithic:Moroccan_North
0.09288876 NE_African_HG:Ethiopian_Jew
0.10023317 Semitic_South-Arabic:Yemenite_Mahra
0.10283083 Taiwanese_Indigenous:Atayal
0.11258443 Ancient_South_Indian:Paniya
0.12010342 Indigenous_Canadian:Cree
0.20340794 MesoAmerican:Mayan
0.23474908 Indigenous_Brazil:Karitiana
0.23564103 Melanesian:Papuan
0.26890220 South_African_Bushmen:Khomani_San