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Saba
03-19-2025, 05:20 PM
I had a midnight thought of what would the genetic results of the Ottoman Sultans would like considering their diverse origins from the concubines in the harem. VERY rough experiment I started with Osman as a Turkmen and used Western Anatolian or Central Anatolian Turks as replacements for beyliks. I also used Georgian towards the end for the few Sultans whose mothers were of unknown origin—also skipped some Sultans if they did not have progeny that became a Sultan. Seems like at the beginning they were fairly similar to Anatolian Turkish populations. Then in the middle they were mostly Balkan, Anatolian/Islander Greek, and some Caucasian. Finally, towards the end of the empire, it became very Caucasian. If you notice errors let me know


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ScandinavianCelt
03-19-2025, 10:10 PM
Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 6.2643% / 0.06264323
45.8 mehmed4
35.8 Sueilman2
18.4 murad3

Target: Sueilman2
Distance: 0.5485% / 0.00548501 | ADC: 1x RC
65.4 Serbia
34.6 Bosnia

Target: mehmed4
Distance: 0.9160% / 0.00916039 | ADC: 1x RC
56.2 Moldova
42.2 Serbia
1.6 Bosnia

Target: murad3
Distance: 1.0999% / 0.01099905 | ADC: 1x RC
90.4 Romania
9.6 Turkmenistan

Wend-Kruzek
03-19-2025, 10:45 PM
:thumb001:

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 4.6861% / 0.04686123
100.0 mehmed4

Mehmed was the son of Sultan Ibrahim (r. 1640–48) by Turhan Sultan, a concubine of Russian origin,