Putin is E-V13 (most likely)

[Feiichy]

Same as Hitler :D

His relative from paternal side tested at Genotek and his account/results were hacked:
Link in Serbian: https://www.b92.net/info/svet/115714/genetska-bomba-putin-je-sa-balkana/vest

As reported by the German Bild, and reported by Blic, Putin has been found to belong to the haplogroup most common in the Balkans.

In mid-March this year, the Ukrainian website tsn.ua published an article stating that hackers had broken into the computer of Mikhail Putin, who is a cousin of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Since Mikhail Putin is believed to belong to haplogroup E1b, or within this haplogroup subgroup E-V13, Vladimir Putin also belongs to this Y-haplogroup.

This is a very rare haplogroup in Russia, with less than five percent of the population belonging to it. Given that Russia has about 144 million people, E-V13 belongs to less than 3.5 million Russian men.

[Feiichy]

Our boss Loki is also E-V13, no wonder he likes Putin :D

[Varda]

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Now theory about his Serbian paternal roots has more sense.

[Feiichy]

Now theory about his Serbian paternal roots has more sense.

lol trololol

as article says, his paternal family is documented in central Russia since 17th century

E-V13 isn't unheard of for Russian, we had northern Russian/Tatar TA member here and we was also E-V13

[majevica]

I mentioned it in the chatbox before

Looking for the subclade I found this one mentioned

https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/E-SK151/story
All Finns

[Feiichy]

I mentioned it in the chatbox before

Looking for the subclade I found this one mentioned

https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/E-SK151/story
All Finns

Very interesting! :eek:

[Varda]

lol trololol

as article says, his paternal family is documented in central Russia since 17th century

E-V13 isn't unheard of for Russian, we had northern Russian/Tatar TA member here and we was also E-V13

Surname Putun exist among Serbs from Banat. Serbs from Banat are heavy E-V13, because of their deeper roots from Kosovo and SE Serbia. Migrations of Serbs to Russia were not all recorded, there was tons of small and individual before or much before bigger one from 1751. when Serbs settled in Donbas and central Ukraine.

[Altaylardan Tunaya]

I don't consider Putin a bad leader, but if he is E-V13, I will have to revise my opinion..

R1a or N are more charismatic Y-DNA for a Russian, imo.

[Feiichy]

Napoleon was also E-V13. Nice list xD

[Feiichy]

I don't consider Putin a bad leader, but if he is E-V13, I will have to revise my opinion..

R1a or N are more charismatic Y-DNA for a Russian, imo.

common peasant haplogroups everyone has

This is way more interesting. I don't remember any relevant leader with R1a, most overrated haplogroup ever lol

[Feiichy]

Surname Putun exist among Serbs from Banat. Serbs from Banat are heavy E-V13, because of their deeper roots from Kosovo and SE Serbia. Migrations of Serbs to Russia were not all recorded, there was tons of small and individual before or much before bigger one from 1751. when Serbs settled in Dombas and central Ukraine.

:picard2:

look at subclade majevica posted, seems Finnish and not Balkan at all lol

[Synergy]

Believe me, a lot of the best leaders are E. My ex-wife Ivana's father was E. Ramesses III, King Matthias, Gjergj Kastrioti Skënderbe, Hitler, Napoleon, Giuseppe Garibaldi were great E leaders, some of the best, ok.

[Varda]

Serbian journalist from Novi Sad Tihana Putin https://novisad.travel/tihana-putin-novi-sad-je-jedinstvena-must-see-destinacija/

She have nothing to do with Russians, she is from Banat. Putin is her born surname. The best friend of Dositej Obradović from childhood was sone Putin (i forgot name), they were both from Banat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dositej_Obradović

[R1b-L51]

Napoleon was also E-V13. Nice list xD

These are haplogroups that come from Egypt, I haven't looked into it but I imagine that Ghadaffi is also one of them.

[R1b-L51]

common peasant haplogroups everyone has

This is way more interesting. I don't remember any relevant leader with R1a, most overrated haplogroup ever lol

Not all of them are bad, there's Mikołaj "the Red" Radziwiłł who defeated Ivan the Terrible, and then there's Gixajo too LOL

[R1b-L51]

Believe me, a lot of the best leaders are E. My ex-wife Ivana's father was E. Ramesses III, King Matthias, Gjergj Kastrioti Skënderbe, Hitler, Napoleon, Giuseppe Garibaldi were great E leaders, some of the best, ok.

And Gallop ajajaj

[majevica]

I don't consider Putin a bad leader, but if he is E-V13, I will have to revise my opinion..

R1a or N are more charismatic Y-DNA for a Russian, imo.


You think there are no Turks with E-V13 and other E clades?

You’re not the first one here with negative statements about my haplogroup
Seems like a common thing among the Turano-Europeanist Turks who think they’re something better than their neighbours.

You’re still primarily West Asian/MENA and nothing will change that.

[Altaylardan Tunaya]

common peasant haplogroups everyone has

This is way more interesting. I don't remember any relevant leader with R1a, most overrated haplogroup ever lol

Personally, I consider r1a, r1b, and q to be the cooler Y-DNAs.

It's good I didn't live in Napoleon's time, I wouldn't accept orders from a dwarf with E-V13 :D

[Varda]

Roman soldiers from the Balkans spreaded E-V13 in other parts of empire. On that way E-V13 arrived to UK probably. This does not refer to Russia which is far away from former Roman empire.

[Altaylardan Tunaya]

You think there are no Turks with E-V13 and other E clades?

You’re not the first one here with negative statements about my haplogroup
Seems like a common thing among the Turano-Europeanist Turks who think they’re something better than their neighbours.

You’re still primarily West Asian/MENA and nothing will change that.

I wasn't targeting you or anyone with E-V13. This is a forum where people come to voice their opinions or rant :D I personally place more value on Y-DNA than autosomal DNA. 'Be proud if you're R1b, obey if you're not'. 'R1b is masterrace' were my favorite slogans.

I hope you see the humor in it and don't take everything too seriously.

[Varda]

:picard2:

look at subclade majevica posted, seems Finnish and not Balkan at all lol

In the text on the link whch you posted is written that Putin's cousin is E-V13, it is not mentioned any specific subclade. What is mujevica, your new target of worshiping? Mujevica deserve to be perma banned from here. It is not just because his behavior on your thread about Croatia and Serbia, but many other reasons. He is was always weirdo, in his eyes is visible he is mentally unstable and lost diasporian soul.

[majevica]

In the text on the link whch you posted is written that Putin's cousin is E-V13, it is not mentioned any specific subclade. What is mujevica, your new target of worshiping? Mujevica deserve to be perma banned from here. It is not just because his behavior on your thread about Croatia and Serbia, but many other reasons. He is was always weirdo, in his eyes is visible he is mentally unstable and lost diasporian soul.

Who are you to say all that? Before you talk about anything here show your face, so we can see what kind of proud super Serbian we have here

[Varda]

Who are you to say all that? Before you talk about anything here show your face, so we can see what kind of proud super Serbian we have here

You can kiss me in the ass mujo. And stop with your fantasy about Finnish clade of E-V13, in the text there is no any word about that.

[vägev]

I would question the validity of the information. Every single source emphasizes the Hitler-Putin connection, which makes the entire claim suspect. It seems like an info dump from pro-Ukrainian media. I’d wait for Genotek’s comment, otherwise, it’s just yellow press.

[Vanyx]

I heard haplogroup JM-205 is common in the Balkans?

[majevica]

You can kiss me in the ass mujo. And stop with your fantasy about Finnish clade of E-V13, in the text there is no any word about that.

You seem chronically online and constantly looking for opportunities to spread Cheto propaganda, I recommend you to get some friends irl

Putin being part of that Finnish clade would make much more sense than some Serb origin, sicko

[Varda]

I heard haplogroup JM-205 is common in the Balkans?

J2b-M205 in the Balkans have peak in Serbs, here is something about that https://www.poreklo.rs/2019/06/12/y-dna-haplogroups-of-ethnic-serbs/

[Varda]

You seem chronically online and constantly looking for opportunities to spread Cheto propaganda, I recommend you to get some friends irl

Putin being part of that Finnish clade would make much more sense than some Serb origin, sicko

I saw sickness in your eyes mujice.

E-V13 is very rare in Russia and Finland. Whole world associate that haplogroup with Balkans. Even if is 'Finish' clade it is not known yet, and your said that like it is proven fact.

[Feiichy]

I would question the validity of the information. Every single source emphasizes the Hitler-Putin connection, which makes the entire claim suspect. It seems like an info dump from pro-Ukrainian media. I’d wait for Genotek’s comment, otherwise, it’s just yellow press.

It's funny coincidence, no need to be paranoid

Ofc genotek won't comment, it's private information lmao.

Anyway Y DNA is irrelevant for somebody's genetics, it is just interesting trivia. Putin autosomal will be like of any regular Russian with similar ancestry.

[vägev]

It's funny coincidence, no need to be paranoid

Ofc genotek won't comment, it's private information lmao.

Anyway Y DNA is irrelevant for somebody's genetics, it is just interesting trivia. Putin autosomal will be like of any regular Russian with similar ancestry.

If there was a data breach, they would have commented. Especially if the info is related to the tsar himself.

[majevica]

I saw sickness in your eyes mujice.

E-V13 is very rare in Russia and Finland. Whole world associate that haplogroup with Balkans. Even if is 'Finish' clade it is not known yet, and your said that like it is proven fact.

I can smell the insecurity and lack of proper showers all the way to Germany.

Whatever. Fuck off and don't talk to me or mention my name.

[#Oda#]

Napoleon was also E-V13. Nice list xD

Seems to be the "short men haplogroup" xD

[ShieldWolf]

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml#V13

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.norwaydna.no%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F07%2FHaplogroup-E-V13-Eupedia-2013.gif&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=0993f90ab413786c6fba96cf938cc97a15a98c53cd6b83 a714b2da8d4aa66d83&ipo=images

[gixajo]

common peasant haplogroups everyone has

This is way more interesting. I don't remember any relevant leader with R1a, most overrated haplogroup ever lol

:cry

[Scandal]

Seems to be the "short men haplogroup" xD
Napoleon's height was average / tall at the time. So was Hitler's.
https://cepr.org/sites/default/files/styles/popup_small/public/image/FromAug2011/HattonFig1.gif?itok=ZqKBkVXR

[Radegast]

common peasant haplogroups everyone has

This is way more interesting. I don't remember any relevant leader with R1a, most overrated haplogroup ever lol


King Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands, belongs to haplogroup R1a-Z280 (north-western Slavic S18681 subclade)

Based on descendant testing, it appears most likely that the sultans of the Ottoman dynasty belonged to haplogroup R1a-Z93

The Israeli politician Benjamin Netanyahu, who has served four times as Prime Minister of Israel, belongs to haplogroup R1a-Z93 (Jewish Y2630 subclade)

The DNA of King Béla III of Hungary (c. 1148-1196) was tested by Olasz et al. (2018). His Y-DNA was identified as R1a (possibly the Z93 branch and Z2123>Y934 clade based on STR values

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml

we are Jews and Turks
(and also Dutch and Magyars)

[Flashball]

Some Merovingians were also E-V13
https://i.imgur.com/v1Upyfk.png
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/capturing-the-fusion-of-two-ancestries-and-kinship-structures-in-merovingian-flanders.45240/

One of my close paternal northern french cousin is also E-V13
https://i.ibb.co/dwb4St43/image.png

[majevica]

It already was present in Early East Slavs

https://haplotree.info/maps/ancient_dna/slideshow_samples.php?searchcolumn=Y_Haplotree_Var iant&searchfor=E-V13&ybp=500000,0

And in absolute numbers East Slavs have more carriers than there are some Balkan people in total, like Montenegrins or Macedonians

[Sulioti]

Napoleon was also E-V13. Nice list xD

Wew! A bunch of Kosovars.:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl :

[Sulioti]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/HgE1b1b1a2.png

[Frowning Man]

I don't remember any relevant leader with R1a, most overrated haplogroup ever lol

But the guys of this haplogroup are good at war)

[Frowning Man]

I have a good friend, he is Russian and very right-wing, does not like all southerners (both European and non-European) - he is also E. When he found out about this, he was very upset, he wanted only Slavic R1a. But autosomal very northern.

[Varda]

common peasant haplogroups everyone has

This is way more interesting. I don't remember any relevant leader with R1a, most overrated haplogroup ever lol

Famous and notable Serbs are more R1a than what is percentage of that haplogroup in total Serbian population.

[Radegast]

you want Russia's fail, like Napoleon or Adi Adolfovitch Hitler, this is why you wrote about Putin's E-V13 probability

[Frotous]

Famous and notable Serbs are more R1a than what is percentage of that haplogroup in total Serbisn population.

Exactly, Nikola Tesla for example

One of the smartest man to step foot on this earth

[Dick]

Famous and notable Serbs are more R1a than what is percentage of that haplogroup in total Serbisn population.

Slobodan Milošević was E-v13

[Radegast]

you want Russia's fail, like Napoleon or Adi Adolfovitch Hitler, this is why you wrote about Putin's E-V13 probability


Slobodan Milošević was E-v13

that's how E1b ends

[Varda]

Exactly, Nikola Tesla for example

One of the smartest man to step foot on this earth

R1a - Nikola Tesla, Srefan Stratimirović, Momčilo Đujić, Ratko Mladić, Bata Živojinović, Miloš Ković, Nikola and Vanja Grbić, Milan Rakić, Vuk Drašković, Jovan Deretić, Milan Gurović, Zdravko Šotra, Milorad Pupovac, Vuk Jeremić, Bogdan Žerajić, Milutin Bojić, Nenad Popović, Nikola Plećaš, Branko Dragaš, Ognjen Kuzmić etc.

There is more famous/notable R1a than I2-Y3120 Serbs (or at least similar number), and I2-Y3120 is significantly stronger in total Serbian population.

[Sulioti]

Putin is a Jew.

[vägev]

I don’t even understand why it’s being discussed. It’s fake news. The only sources mentioning this 'hacker attack' are Ukrainian online news outlets. Even liberal, anti-Putin Russian media like TV Rain and Meduza don’t mention it, and they jump on every opportunity to bash Putin.

[Varda]

Putin is a Jew.

Bosnian Serb leader Milorad Dodik was in Israel few days ago. After the visit to Israel interpol don't want to arrest him anymore, now he is free like a bird. This is one of his many victories over Sarajevo (Bosnian Muslims). He has strong connections in Isreal and Jews/Israelis saved him many times until now.
Interesting Dodik is J1. Is it just coincidence...

[Radegast]

R1a - Nikola Tesla, Srefan Stratimirović, Momčilo Đujić, Ratko Mladić, Bata Živojinović, Miloš Ković, Nikola and Vanja Grbić, Milan Rakić, Vuk Drašković, Jovan Deretić, Milan Gurović, Zdravko Šotra, Milorad Pupovac, Vuk Jeremić, Bogdan Žerajić, Milutin Bojić, Nenad Popović, Nikola Plećaš, Branko Dragaš, Ognjen Kuzmić etc.

There is more famous/notable R1a than I2-Y3120 Serbs (or at least similar number), and I2-Y3120 is significantly stronger in total Serbian population.

liked to watch Jovan's theories

[Sulioti]

Bosnian Serb leader Milorad Dodik was in Israel few days ago. After the visit to Israel interpol don't want to arrest him anymore, now he is free like a bird. This is one of his many victories over Sarajevo (Bosnian Muslims). He has strong connections in Isreal and Jews/Israelis saved him many times until now.
Interesting Dodik is J1. Is it just coincidence...

Varda, why did you quote me? Do you remember what you said to me yesterday in the other thread that was closed by the moderators?
And I don't know why you quoted me in the first place. I wasn't talking about Dodik. And Dodik was expelled from Israel. https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?393037-Bosnian-Serb-leader-sentenced-to-one-year-of-prison-Orban-sent-300-special-forces-to-Banja-Luka&p=8195668&viewfull=1#post8195668

[Sulioti]

Early life and education
Putin was born on 7 October 1952 in Leningrad, Soviet Union (now Saint Petersburg, Russia),[26] the youngest of three children of Vladimir Spiridonovich Putin (1911–1999) and Maria Ivanovna Putina (née Shelomova; 1911–1998).

[Blondie]

Varda, why did you quote me? Do you remember what you said to me yesterday in the other thread that was closed by the moderators?

You mean the "serbia and croatia" thread? It disappeared but what was the reason? I was not online

[Sulioti]

You mean the "serbia and croatia" thread? It disappeared but what was the reason? I was not online

I think was closed by the mods but i have no idea why they decided to close it.

[majevica]

I don’t even understand why it’s being discussed. It’s fake news. The only sources mentioning this 'hacker attack' are Ukrainian online news outlets. Even liberal, anti-Putin Russian media like TV Rain and Meduza don’t mention it, and they jump on every opportunity to bash Putin.

I bet if came out he was R1a you wouldn’t say that

Also real Aryans are not in Europe, but bathing in Ganges river or preparing for incoming Anglo-Semitic attack

[Blondie]

I bet if came out he was R1a you wouldn’t say that

Also real Aryans are not in Europe, but bathing in Ganges river or preparing for incoming Anglo-Semitic attack

They are in Europe, called gypsies. Morti is the king of aryanz, the real Führer.

[vägev]

I bet if came out he was R1a you wouldn’t say that

Also real Aryans are not in Europe, but bathing in Ganges river or preparing for incoming Anglo-Semitic attack

I’d be skeptical either way. Without compelling evidence, it’s just speculation.

[majevica]

They are in Europe, called gypsies. Morti is the king of aryanz, the real Führer.

I didn’t count Indian migrants

Also Roma descend from South Asian Dalits (untouchables/those that were seen as the lowest of the low by the Aryans)

They imposed their language on them, but not much their genetics, considering most Roma males today are either native South Asian H or some Euro/MENA haplo, very low to non-existant Aryan R1a-Z93

[Frotous]

You mean the "serbia and croatia" thread? It disappeared but what was the reason? I was not online

It was closed probably because of all the fighting between Balkan nations ( Serbia and Croatia mainly )

Feiichy is always opening threads like that to provoke Balkan spam wars on here

Stupidity