K36 Global Ave G25 R5P

[ScandinavianCelt]

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Please post only your k36 simulated g25 results using the reduction to five populations (R5P)



For some people I imagine they might not need to reduce it but for many of us with maybe multiple backgrounds I think it's a good idea if you find it's best for you if you have less than five you don't need to make a reduction.

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 0.6567% / 0.00656715 | R5P
48.6 Faroese
25.2 Afrikaner
11.6 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
9.2 Basque_Spain
5.4 Kalash

These are not k36 results but using the merged DNAgenics coordinates for my parents:

Target: SC_Parent.1_Merged
Distance: 1.2099% / 0.01209948 | R5P
77.0 Scottish_Orkney
10.2 Erzya
7.0 Darginian
3.0 Yemenite_Mahra
2.8 Bengali_Bangladesh

Target: SC_Parent.2_Merged
Distance: 2.0203% / 0.02020260 | R5P
77.4 Irish_Ulster
13.6 Afrikaner
3.8 Mari
3.0 Darginian
2.2 Mala

[Beowulf]

Target: Beowulf_Sim
Distance: 0.0082% / 0.00820081 | R5P
62.2 Spanish_Cantabria
15.1 Darginian
11.1 Yemenite_Mahra
10.7 Finnish_Northeast
0.9 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre

[AndreiDNA]

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Please post only your k36 simulated g25 results using the reduction to five populations (R5P)



For some people I imagine they might not need to reduce it but for many of us with maybe multiple backgrounds I think it's a good idea if you find it's best for you if you have less than five you don't need to make a reduction.

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 0.6567% / 0.00656715 | R5P
48.6 Faroese
25.2 Afrikaner
11.6 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
9.2 Basque_Spain
5.4 Kalash

These are not k36 results but using the merged DNAgenics coordinates for my parents:

Target: SC_Parent.1_Merged
Distance: 1.2099% / 0.01209948 | R5P
77.0 Scottish_Orkney
10.2 Erzya
7.0 Darginian
3.0 Yemenite_Mahra
2.8 Bengali_Bangladesh

Target: SC_Parent.2_Merged
Distance: 2.0203% / 0.02020260 | R5P
77.4 Irish_Ulster
13.6 Afrikaner
3.8 Mari
3.0 Darginian
2.2 Mala

Target: AndreiKharchenko_scaled
Distance: 2.4659% / 0.02465883 | R5P
68.4 Moksha
26.0 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
3.6 German_Lower_Silesia
2.0 She

[Athalafuns]

Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.4226% / 0.00422627 | R5P
43.4 French_South
29.0 Spanish_Canarias
14.6 Italian_Marche
8.2 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
4.8 Egyptian

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.7974% / 0.00797405 | R5P
46.8 Ukrainian_Cossack
34.2 Albanian_North_Macedonia
12.2 Greek_Central-Macedonia
5.0 Chuvash
1.8 Sardinian




Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.0026% / 0.02002632 | R5P
31.4 Russian_Belgorod
29.2 Russian_Novgorod_Pskov
20.0 Sardinian
14.8 Armenian_Hemsheni
4.6 Romanian_Southwest

[Solitude]

two results from this calc R5P and averaged k36 without R5P

ScandinavianCeltCalc :

Target: K36mergedresult
Distance: 0.6742% / 0.00674193 | R5P
61.4 Portuguese
21.0 Luhya_Kenya
8.4 Karitiana
4.8 Yoruba
4.4 Faroese

averaged K36 without italian north samples and sardinia :

Target: K36mergedresult
Distance: 824.1833% / 8.24183336
24.8 Portuguese
19.2 Spanish_Valencia
8.2 Yoruba
6.8 Luhya_Kenya
6.6 Spanish_Pirineu
6.4 Karitiana
6.0 Faroese
5.8 Spanish_Mallorca
5.4 Somali_Kenya
3.2 Mende_Sierra_Leone
2.2 Mozabite
2.0 Esan_Nigeria
1.8 Piapoco
1.0 Dinka
0.6 Masai

[Xavier727]

The results were quite different depending on which cords I use

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.1777% / 0.02177673 | R5P
71.2 Faroese
17.8 Basque_Spain
5.4 Erzya
3.2 Shor
2.4 Kalash


Target: scaled
Distance: 0.6757% / 0.00675705 | R5P
72.4 Irish_Ulster
11.8 German_Frisian
9.8 Afrikaner
3.4 Pashtun_Kurram
2.6 Saami


Target: scaled
Distance: 0.4220% / 0.00422028 | R5P
51.6 German_Lower_Saxony_North
20.2 German_Frisian
15.8 Scottish_Southwest
10.4 Spanish_Canarias
2.0 Quechua

[Vitez]

Target: vitez_simulated_k36_scaled
Distance: 0.0052% / 0.00515212 | R5P
45.0 German_Lower_Silesia
22.2 Erzya
20.9 North_Macedonian
7.0 Sardinian
4.9 Yemenite_Mahra

[R1b-L51]

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.7583% / 0.01758343
27.4 Basque_Spain
17.6 Spanish_Valencia
10.8 Spanish_Cantabria
9.2 Armenian_Hemsheni
9.2 German_North_Moravia
8.4 Sardinian
7.0 Mozabite
6.4 Finnish_Northeast
1.2 Luhya_Kenya
1.0 Jarawa
0.6 Darginian
0.6 Lithuanian
0.4 Japanese
0.2 Ethiopian_Mursi


Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.8973% / 0.01897347 | R5P
72.6 Spanish_Cantabria
9.6 Armenian_Hemsheni
8.2 Mozabite
7.0 Lithuanian
2.6 Jarawa

In short:

80% GAC + 10% Dinarid + 10% Berberid


And Cristiano SIUU

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.02420583 Portuguese_Azores
0.02516066 Portuguese
0.03016353 Spanish_Canarias
0.03143875 Spanish_Galicia
0.03313502 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03340616 Spanish_Alacant
0.03435861 Spanish_Valencia
0.03477369 Spanish_Andalusia
0.03506152 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03506400 Spanish
0.03554717 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03665047 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03787267 Spanish_Girona
0.03826851 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03919356 Spanish_Lleida
0.03920128 Spanish_Penedes
0.03954003 Spanish_Barcelones
0.03973953 Spanish_Pirineu
0.03983881 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04049217 Spanish_Baleares
0.04076037 Spanish_Castello
0.04238281 French_Provence
0.04253205 Spanish_Aragon
0.04300040 Spanish_Cantabria
0.04309788 Swiss_Italian

[ScandinavianCelt]

The results were quite different depending on which cords I use

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.1777% / 0.02177673 | R5P
71.2 Faroese
17.8 Basque_Spain
5.4 Erzya
3.2 Shor
2.4 Kalash


Target: scaled
Distance: 0.6757% / 0.00675705 | R5P
72.4 Irish_Ulster
11.8 German_Frisian
9.8 Afrikaner
3.4 Pashtun_Kurram
2.6 Saami


Target: scaled
Distance: 0.4220% / 0.00422028 | R5P
51.6 German_Lower_Saxony_North
20.2 German_Frisian
15.8 Scottish_Southwest
10.4 Spanish_Canarias
2.0 Quechua

are these K36 sims?

[Rædwald]

Target: Rædwald_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.6216% / 0.00621587 | R5P
51.6 Scottish_Highlands
31.6 Irish_Munster
11.4 Spanish_Cantabria
3.0 Gujarati
2.4 Quechua

[drb234]

Distance to: drb_g25_scaled
0.00872731 Dutch_South
0.00881904 English_East
0.01011141 English_Southeast
0.01025450 English_East-Midlands
0.01067535 English
0.01105935 British
0.01118199 English_West-Midlands
0.01124696 Flemish
0.01131485 English_Lancashire
0.01148030 English_Northeast
0.01152492 Dutch
0.01196862 Dutch_Central
0.01224111 French_Brittany
0.01229526 English_Southwest
0.01239430 English_Yorkshire
0.01256637 Cornish
0.01295121 Scottish_Southwest
0.01310281 German
0.01338950 Scottish_Orkney
0.01354305 Welsh
0.01359309 Scottish_East
0.01383086 German_Lower_Saxony_South
0.01386851 Scottish
0.01401095 Irish_Leinster
0.01413628 British_Ulster

Target: drb_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.3479% / 0.00347949 | R5P
46.8 German_Frisian
19.6 Afrikaner
14.0 Austrian_LowerAustria
14.0 Spanish_Galicia
5.6 German_Brandenburg_Northwest


Target: drb_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.3857% / 0.00385731 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.4 German_Frisian
29.4 Afrikaner
17.4 French_Central
12.8 German_North_Bohemia

[Xavier727]

are these K36 sims?

Yeah they are

[tk'es]

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 3.2582% / 0.03258222 | R5P
64.4 Darginian
24.0 Armenian_Hemsheni
4.4 Bedoiun
4.2 Faroese
3.0 Nivkh

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: AndreiKharchenko_scaled
Distance: 2.4659% / 0.02465883 | R5P
68.4 Moksha
26.0 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
3.6 German_Lower_Silesia
2.0 She

K36 sims?

[Pohjanpoika]

Distance to: Pohjanpoika_sim_g25_scaled
0.01610483 Finnish_Southwest
0.02228679 Finnish
0.02511880 Karelian
0.02658038 Russian_Kostroma
0.02698710 Russian_North
0.02780237 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Krasnoborsky
0.02826637 Finnish_Northeast
0.02861539 Vepsian
0.02927635 Russian_Kirov
0.03018702 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
0.03384744 Russian_Perm
0.03475708 Norwegian_North
0.03555370 Moksha
0.03619045 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Pinezhsky
0.03701927 Erzya
0.03743141 Russian_Nizhny_Novgorod_Yaroslavl
0.03927420 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Pinega
0.04040975 Russian
0.04176206 Russian_Meshchera_Lowlands
0.04304452 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.04351792 Estonian
0.04595836 Russian_Ryazan
0.04894909 Russian_Tambov
0.04896810 Russian_Tver
0.04959759 Russian_Don_Cossack
0.05122528 Russian_Kursk
0.05266719 Russian_Voronezh
0.05452663 Russian_Kaluga
0.05507176 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.05582484 Ukrainian_Cossack

Target: Pohjanpoika_sim_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.1285% / 0.01128453 | R5P
73.0 Finnish_Southwest
10.8 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Pinezhsky
9.0 Faroese
4.8 Mari
2.4 Russian_Kostroma


Distance to: Pohjanpoika_father_sim_g25_scaled
0.01650142 Finnish_Southwest
0.01840726 Finnish
0.02259245 Karelian
0.02381858 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
0.02549782 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Krasnoborsky
0.02568588 Russian_North
0.02645393 Finnish_Northeast
0.02662767 Vepsian
0.02864627 Russian_Kostroma
0.02979824 Russian_Kirov
0.03428784 Russian_Perm
0.03466547 Russian_Nizhny_Novgorod_Yaroslavl
0.03482487 Moksha
0.03564835 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Pinezhsky
0.03581905 Erzya
0.03606809 Russian
0.03698609 Norwegian_North
0.03753483 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Pinega
0.03832922 Russian_Meshchera_Lowlands
0.03860983 Estonian
0.03864194 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.04357520 Russian_Ryazan
0.04475552 Russian_Tver
0.04552097 Russian_Don_Cossack
0.04566480 Russian_Tambov
0.04798211 Russian_Kursk
0.04897814 Russian_Voronezh
0.04956221 Russian_Kaluga
0.05036865 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.05087021 Russian_Pskov

Target: Pohjanpoika_father_sim_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.0856% / 0.01085571 | R5P
46.8 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
25.8 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Pinezhsky
18.2 German_Frisian
5.2 Saami
4.0 Basque_Spain

[AndreiDNA]

K36 sims?

No, K36 sims wouldn't get this kind of fit.

[Demirkazık]

Target: Demir_Sim
Distance: 0.6160% / 0.00615977 | R5P
49.6 Turkish_Aydin
25.0 Turkish_Istanbul
10.8 Tabasaran
9.8 Tatar_Siberia
4.8 Shor

With no sim:

Target: Demir
Distance: 1.9585% / 0.01958483 | R5P
32.6 Greek_Pontic
29.2 Turkish_Aydin
25.0 Tatar_Crimea
6.6 Shor
6.6 Udmurt

[Fabricius]

Target: Fabricius_k36-G25
Distance: 0.5038% / 0.00503841 | R5P
30.0 Moldova_Centre
30.0 Portuguese_Azores
28.8 Spanish_Valencia
5.8 Esan_Nigeria
5.4 Mozabite

[ScandinavianCelt]

No, K36 sims wouldn't get this kind of fit.

Don't you think using K36 sims is best with the K36 Source set converted to G25? I could post the raw version of this in R5P.

The RAW K36 Source and my coordinates gives a different look: (try your K36 sims with this source set, or just do all raw K36 Global vs your K36 raw.

(RAW)

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 5.2302% / 5.23024416 | R5P
69.4 German_Frisian
10.7 German_Lower_Silesia
9.2 Spanish_Cantabria
7.0 Saami_Norway
3.7 Brahui

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 5.2385% / 5.23850144 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.8 German_Frisian
13.3 Norwegian_North
11.7 German_Lower_Silesia
9.4 Spanish_Cantabria
3.8 Brahui

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 5.6499% / 5.64993697 | R5P | ADC: 0.5x RC
68.0 German_Frisian
10.5 Irish_Ulster
8.5 Spanish_Cantabria
8.4 Finnish_Southwest
4.6 Balochi

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 7.1688% / 7.16884108 | R5P | ADC: 1x RC
58.2 Irish_Ulster
22.9 Norwegian_North
18.9 German_Lower_Silesia

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 9.0304% / 9.03044849 | R5P | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 German_Frisian

[R1b-L51]

Target: Fabricius_k36-G25
Distance: 0.5038% / 0.00503841 | R5P
30.0 Moldova_Centre
30.0 Portuguese_Azores
28.8 Spanish_Valencia
5.8 Esan_Nigeria
5.4 Mozabite

Ey amigo, cómo te salen tus distances??? SHIIUUUU

[R1b-L51]

Don't you think using K36 sims is best with the K36 Source set converted to G25? I could post the raw version of this in R5P.

The RAW K36 Source and my coordinates gives a different look: (try your K36 sims with this source set, or just do all raw K36 Global vs your K36 raw.

(RAW)

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 5.2302% / 5.23024416 | R5P
69.4 German_Frisian
10.7 German_Lower_Silesia
9.2 Spanish_Cantabria
7.0 Saami_Norway
3.7 Brahui

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 5.2385% / 5.23850144 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.8 German_Frisian
13.3 Norwegian_North
11.7 German_Lower_Silesia
9.4 Spanish_Cantabria
3.8 Brahui

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 5.6499% / 5.64993697 | R5P | ADC: 0.5x RC
68.0 German_Frisian
10.5 Irish_Ulster
8.5 Spanish_Cantabria
8.4 Finnish_Southwest
4.6 Balochi

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 7.1688% / 7.16884108 | R5P | ADC: 1x RC
58.2 Irish_Ulster
22.9 Norwegian_North
18.9 German_Lower_Silesia

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 9.0304% / 9.03044849 | R5P | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 German_Frisian

And I have to say that I think these coords are even better or even more accurate.
I should do the same!!!

[AndreiDNA]

Don't you think using K36 sims is best with the K36 Source set converted to G25? I could post the raw version of this in R5P.

The RAW K36 Source and my coordinates gives a different look: (try your K36 sims with this source set, or just do all raw K36 Global vs your K36 raw.

(RAW)

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 5.2302% / 5.23024416 | R5P
69.4 German_Frisian
10.7 German_Lower_Silesia
9.2 Spanish_Cantabria
7.0 Saami_Norway
3.7 Brahui

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 5.2385% / 5.23850144 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.8 German_Frisian
13.3 Norwegian_North
11.7 German_Lower_Silesia
9.4 Spanish_Cantabria
3.8 Brahui

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 5.6499% / 5.64993697 | R5P | ADC: 0.5x RC
68.0 German_Frisian
10.5 Irish_Ulster
8.5 Spanish_Cantabria
8.4 Finnish_Southwest
4.6 Balochi

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 7.1688% / 7.16884108 | R5P | ADC: 1x RC
58.2 Irish_Ulster
22.9 Norwegian_North
18.9 German_Lower_Silesia

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 9.0304% / 9.03044849 | R5P | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 German_Frisian

oh i see what you mean. Here's my result with K36 sim instead of actual coords:


Distance to: MyHeritage_raw_dna_data.csv
0.01280778 Russian_Nizhny_Novgorod_Yaroslavl
0.01435285 Russian
0.01469545 Russian_Meshchera_Lowlands
0.01596569 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.01776586 Russian_North
0.01881810 Russian_Kostroma
0.01891231 Moksha
0.02076028 Russian_Ryazan
0.02229543 Erzya
0.02269533 Russian_Tver
0.02316985 Russian_Tambov
0.02386604 Estonian
0.02523314 Russian_Kursk
0.02557887 Russian_Don_Cossack
0.02598901 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Krasnoborsky
0.02704932 Russian_Voronezh
0.02728171 Russian_Kirov
0.02847596 Finnish_Southwest
0.02909214 Russian_Kaluga
0.02989566 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.03091335 Ukrainian_Cossack
0.03143907 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.03170464 Russian_Pskov
0.03283539 Russian_Bryansk
0.03379054 Russian_Belgorod

Reduced to 5:
Target: MyHeritage_raw_dna_data.csv
Distance: 0.7445% / 0.00744474 | R5P
38.0 Russian_Kostroma
37.4 Russian_Yaroslavl
14.4 Russian_Meshchera_Lowlands
10.0 Norwegian_North
0.2 German_Frisian

Reduced to 4:
Target: MyHeritage_raw_dna_data.csv
Distance: 0.7445% / 0.00744497 | R4P
37.8 Russian_Kostroma
37.4 Russian_Yaroslavl
14.4 Russian_Meshchera_Lowlands
10.4 Norwegian_North

Reduced to 3:
Target: MyHeritage_raw_dna_data.csv
Distance: 0.7511% / 0.00751098 | R3P
49.2 Russian_Kostroma
41.8 Russian_Yaroslavl
9.0 German_East_Prussia_Central

[Fabricius]

Ey amigo, cómo te salen tus distances??? SHIIUUUU

Soy distante de cada población por separado y soy cercano de todas ellas juntas.
Si hay una muestra extraterrestre, mi distancia global será aproximadamente del 0,4%. xD

[AndreiDNA]

Mom's result (also simulated)
Distance to: Natalia.csv
0.01316437 Russian_North
0.01526107 Russian_Kostroma
0.01545222 Erzya
0.01696120 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Krasnoborsky
0.01708386 Moksha
0.01897256 Russian_Kirov
0.02173322 Russian
0.02218292 Russian_Nizhny_Novgorod_Yaroslavl
0.02234979 Russian_Meshchera_Lowlands
0.02478134 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.02544115 Vepsian
0.02696679 Karelian
0.02946008 Russian_Tver
0.02953424 Russian_Perm
0.03050317 Russian_Ryazan
0.03050796 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
0.03147795 Estonian
0.03174237 Finnish
0.03222541 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Pinezhsky
0.03226008 Finnish_Southwest
0.03329097 Russian_Tambov
0.03383866 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Pinega
0.03503598 Russian_Kursk
0.03567089 Russian_Don_Cossack
0.03774368 Russian_Voronezh



Target: Natalia.csv
Distance: 0.8809% / 0.00880910 | R3P
53.0 Russian_Meshchera_Lowlands
42.0 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Pinezhsky
5.0 Lithuanian

Target: Natalia.csv
Distance: 0.8721% / 0.00872064 | R4P
41.4 Russian_Meshchera_Lowlands
37.4 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Pinezhsky
12.0 Erzya
9.2 Latvian

Target: Natalia.csv
Distance: 0.8603% / 0.00860295 | R5P
42.4 Russian_Arkhangelsk_Pinezhsky
33.0 Russian_Meshchera_Lowlands
16.8 Latvian
5.6 Russian_Kostroma
2.2 Darginian

[R1b-L51]

Soy distante de cada población por separado y soy cercano de todas ellas juntas.
Si hay una muestra extraterrestre, mi distancia global será aproximadamente del 0,4%. xD

I was wondering if you were close to the Azore´s sample, because, interestingly, I got results that were close in distance. On some occasions, we have said that in the Azores there is a strange mixture of megalithic atlanto-med and ancient berbers.

[ScandinavianCelt]

And I have to say that I think these coords are even better or even more accurate.
I should do the same!!!

Try your top-10 with the Mixed Mode tool: click the 2-way tab here: https://promotopic.com/calculator/vahd.html


Distance to: SC_K36_Merged_Imputed_Gedmatch
7.67411589 53.00% French_Brittany + 47.00% Swedish_North
7.77329361 45.40% Irish_Ulster + 54.60% Swedish
7.90373586 53.20% Irish_Ulster + 46.80% Swedish_North
7.97097234 45.00% French_Brittany + 55.00% Swedish
7.98998598 60.20% Scottish_Orkney + 39.80% Swedish_North
8.00172499 60.60% British_Ulster + 39.40% Swedish_North
8.02993580 58.80% Scottish_East + 41.20% Swedish_North
8.03387702 52.20% Scottish_Orkney + 47.80% Swedish
8.04927872 48.20% Irish + 51.80% Swedish
8.06379077 48.20% Irish_Connacht + 51.80% Swedish

Distance to: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
7.89429635 55.20% Irish_Ulster + 44.80% Swedish_North
7.90862260 48.20% Irish_Ulster + 51.80% Swedish
8.06030355 53.60% French_Brittany + 46.40% Swedish_North
8.13510285 58.40% Irish + 41.60% Swedish_North
8.15273158 60.40% Scottish_East + 39.60% Swedish_North
8.16934075 58.60% Irish_Connacht + 41.40% Swedish_North
8.21110161 60.60% Scottish_Southwest + 39.40% Swedish_North
8.21200883 51.40% Irish_Connacht + 48.60% Swedish
8.21395916 51.20% Irish + 48.80% Swedish
8.23859454 40.00% Swedish_North + 60.00% Welsh

[Vessna]

Target: n_scaled
Distance: 2.2487% / 0.02248669 | R3P
68.0 Latvian
25.8 Saami_Norway
6.2 Makrani

Target: n_scaled
Distance: 2.1892% / 0.02189187 | R4P
55.2 Latvian
33.4 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
5.8 Makrani
5.6 Shor


Target: n_scaled
Distance: 2.1516% / 0.02151648 | R5P
33.2 Russian_Yaroslavl
29.6 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
28.6 Latvian
5.4 Makrani
3.2 Eskimo

[R1b-L51]

Try your top-10 with the Mixed Mode tool: click the 2-way tab here: https://promotopic.com/calculator/vahd.html


Distance to: SC_K36_Merged_Imputed_Gedmatch
7.67411589 53.00% French_Brittany + 47.00% Swedish_North
7.77329361 45.40% Irish_Ulster + 54.60% Swedish
7.90373586 53.20% Irish_Ulster + 46.80% Swedish_North
7.97097234 45.00% French_Brittany + 55.00% Swedish
7.98998598 60.20% Scottish_Orkney + 39.80% Swedish_North
8.00172499 60.60% British_Ulster + 39.40% Swedish_North
8.02993580 58.80% Scottish_East + 41.20% Swedish_North
8.03387702 52.20% Scottish_Orkney + 47.80% Swedish
8.04927872 48.20% Irish + 51.80% Swedish
8.06379077 48.20% Irish_Connacht + 51.80% Swedish

Distance to: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
7.89429635 55.20% Irish_Ulster + 44.80% Swedish_North
7.90862260 48.20% Irish_Ulster + 51.80% Swedish
8.06030355 53.60% French_Brittany + 46.40% Swedish_North
8.13510285 58.40% Irish + 41.60% Swedish_North
8.15273158 60.40% Scottish_East + 39.60% Swedish_North
8.16934075 58.60% Irish_Connacht + 41.40% Swedish_North
8.21110161 60.60% Scottish_Southwest + 39.40% Swedish_North
8.21200883 51.40% Irish_Connacht + 48.60% Swedish
8.21395916 51.20% Irish + 48.80% Swedish
8.23859454 40.00% Swedish_North + 60.00% Welsh

2 WAYS IT'S ALWAYS SHIUU

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.02118634 2.80% Jarawa + 97.20% Portuguese
0.02120510 2.80% Onge + 97.20% Portuguese
0.02134010 3.80% Hazara + 96.20% Portuguese
0.02135190 4.00% Bahun + 96.00% Portuguese
0.02143286 96.00% Portuguese + 4.00% Uygur
0.02149880 94.60% Portuguese + 5.40% Tatar_Crimea
0.02162510 2.40% Onge + 97.60% Portuguese_Azores
0.02162650 2.40% Jarawa + 97.60% Portuguese_Azores
0.02175590 3.40% Bengali_Bangladesh + 96.60% Portuguese
0.02178600 3.00% Hazara + 97.00% Portuguese_Azores
0.02183952 98.00% Portuguese + 2.00% Tibetan_Chamdo
0.02185905 3.20% Bahun + 96.80% Portuguese_Azores
0.02188221 98.00% Portuguese + 2.00% Tu
0.02188903 2.00% Nivkh + 98.00% Portuguese
0.02189240 2.00% Hezhen + 98.00% Portuguese
0.02189344 96.80% Portuguese_Azores + 3.20% Uygur
0.02189616 98.00% Portuguese + 2.00% Xibo
0.02190565 98.00% Portuguese + 2.00% Ulchi
0.02191769 2.00% Japanese + 98.00% Portuguese
0.02196649 98.40% Portuguese_Azores + 1.60% Tibetan_Chamdo
0.02197093 20.60% Hungarian + 79.40% Spanish_Canarias
0.02197347 2.00% Naxi + 98.00% Portuguese
0.02198956 98.00% Portuguese + 2.00% Yi
0.02199728 1.60% Hezhen + 98.40% Portuguese_Azores
0.02201013 98.40% Portuguese_Azores + 1.60% Xibo

[RyoHazuki]

Target: ryo
Distance: 1.0099% / 0.01009908 | R5P
79.8 Irish_Munster
11.0 Spanish_Cantabria
6.8 Darginian
2.4 Mari

[Fabricius]

I was wondering if you were close to the Azore´s sample, because, interestingly, I got results that were close in distance. On some occasions, we have said that in the Azores there is a strange mixture of megalithic atlanto-med and ancient berbers.

Off Topic

You made me discover something very interesting. According to the website https://cladefinder.yseq.net/ my Y-DNA is R-Z225 or R1b1a1a2a1a2a5, [Note: Now changed to Z229]

For a long time I thought this was Azorean, but ChatGPT is saying it is Germanic.


Most specific position on the YFull YTree is R-Z229
Link to R-Z229 on YFull View maps, migrations and statistics on HRAS View theoretical migration on PhyloGeographer
R-Z229 Z229/S359/V2059+
┣━R-Y12470
Y12470/FGC30967/Z29884($) Y534741(?) Y535130(?) Y535855(?) Z29883(?)
┣━R-Y16019
Y16019(?) Y526709(?)
┣━R-Z222
FT9299(?) Z222($)
┗━R-Z2543
Y520175(?) Z2543($) Z2544(?) Z2545/CTS8001(?) Z32163(?) Z32164($)

Available Panels

YSEQ recommends the R1b-DF27 Panel Predicted R-Z229 is downstream of the panel root. This panel may be applicable if it tests subclades below R-Z229. Please verify and check with YSEQ customer support.



Next best prediction (scored 387 compared to 388)


ChatGPT:


�� O que é o haplogrupo R-Z229?

R-Z229 é uma subclade do haplogrupo R-U106, o principal ramo germânico de R1b.

Ele é ancestral direto de R-Z225, ou seja:

Z229 > Z225: se agora foi detectado R-Z229 em vez de Z225, é possível que:

Faltou algum SNP confirmatório de Z225 no seu arquivo, ou

O algoritmo usou outro SNP mais forte em Z229.


R-Z229 is a subclade of haplogroup R-U106, the main Germanic branch of R1b.

It is a direct ancestor of R-Z225, i.e.:

Z229 > Z225: If R-Z229 is now detected instead of Z225, it is possible that:

Your file is missing a confirmatory SNP for Z225, or

The algorithm used another, stronger SNP in Z229.




✅ Resumo

Seu haplogrupo paterno é germânico do norte, com provável origem em algum antepassado saxão, frisão ou escandinavo.

R-Z229 é o tronco que deu origem a R-Z225 e outras linhagens semelhantes.

O mais provável é que você descenda por via paterna de imigrantes germânicos ou holandeses, ou de famílias portuguesas com alguma raiz germânica (por exemplo, militares, nobres, ou colonos integrados no Império).


✅ Summary

Your paternal haplogroup is North Germanic, probably originating from some Saxon, Frisian or Scandinavian ancestor.

R-Z229 is the trunk that gave rise to R-Z225 and other similar lineages.

You are most likely descended on your father's side from Germanic or Dutch immigrants, or from Portuguese families with some Germanic roots (for example, military personnel, nobles, or settlers integrated into the Empire).










I think I will look for a Y-DNA thread to see if anyone can help me.

But about the Azores, it is my closest population in my G25 Unscaled, as you can see in my signature.

[Fabricius]

Off Topic 2

Maps for R-Z225; R-Z229; L389



https://i.imgur.com/r5eiqts.png

https://i.imgur.com/82w0rCN.png

https://i.imgur.com/0obpCUL.png

[Fabricius]

I was wondering if you were close to the Azore´s sample, because, interestingly, I got results that were close in distance. On some occasions, we have said that in the Azores there is a strange mixture of megalithic atlanto-med and ancient berbers.

According to Grok, there is no data connecting Z229, from Central Europe, with the Azores, but I found the YSEQ website to be very accurate about a relevant part of my origin.
It remains to be seen whether he actually took the Y-DNA or made an autosomal estimate.




Grok, what is the origin of haplogroup R-Z229 and R-Z225?

Haplogroup R-Z229 and R-Z225 are subclades of the broader Y-chromosome haplogroup R, which is a significant lineage in human population genetics, particularly among European and Western Asian populations. To understand their origins, we need to trace back through their parent haplogroups and the mutations (single nucleotide polymorphisms, or SNPs) that define them.
Parent Haplogroup: R1b and Its Spread
Both R-Z229 and R-Z225 belong to the R1b branch of haplogroup R, one of the most common haplogroups in Western Europe. R1b likely originated during the Upper Paleolithic period, around 20,000–25,000 years ago, in Western Asia or the Eurasian steppe. Its major subclade, R1b-M269, expanded significantly during the Neolithic and Bronze Age, often associated with the migrations of Indo-European-speaking peoples, including the Yamnaya culture from the Pontic-Caspian steppe (~5,000–4,000 years ago).
R-Z229 and R-Z225: Specific Mutations
R-Z229: This is a downstream subclade of R1b, defined by the Z229 SNP. It falls under the R1b-U152 branch, which is particularly prevalent in Central and Western Europe, including among populations in Italy, Switzerland, France, and southern Germany. R-U152 is often linked to the spread of Celtic and Italic peoples during the Bronze and Iron Ages (~4,000–2,000 years ago). R-Z229 itself is a more specific marker that likely emerged as a result of genetic drift or founder effects in a localized population within this broader U152 lineage.

R-Z225: Similarly, R-Z225 is another subclade of R1b, also tied to the U152 branch. It shares a close relationship with R-Z229 phylogenetically, suggesting they diverged from a common ancestor within the U152 group. R-Z225 is less widely documented in public databases, but its distribution appears to overlap with Z229 in parts of Central Europe, potentially indicating a shared history tied to ancient migrations or tribal movements.

Geographic and Historical Context
The U152 branch, including R-Z229 and R-Z225, is thought to have expanded during the Bronze Age, possibly with the spread of the Bell Beaker culture (~4,800–3,800 years ago), which connected Western Europe through trade and migration. These subclades are relatively rare compared to broader R1b lineages like R-M269 or R-L21, suggesting they represent more localized or regional population expansions. Their presence today is most notable in Alpine regions and areas influenced by ancient Celtic or Roman populations.
Timeline of Origin
R1b: Originated ~20,000–25,000 years ago, likely in Western Asia or the steppe.

R1b-M269: Expanded ~5,000–4,000 years ago with steppe migrations.

R1b-U152: Emerged ~4,000–3,000 years ago, linked to Central European Bronze Age cultures.

R-Z229 and R-Z225: Likely formed ~3,000–2,000 years ago or later, as finer branches of U152, though exact dating depends on further ancient DNA evidence and mutation rate estimates.

Conclusion
Haplogroups R-Z229 and R-Z225 trace their origins to the R1b-U152 lineage, which spread across Central and Western Europe during the Bronze Age. They represent more recent, localized mutations within this group, possibly tied to ancient Celtic or related populations in regions like the Alps or northern Italy. For precise origins, ongoing genetic studies and ancient DNA analysis continue to refine our understanding of their emergence and distribution.





However:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://translate.google.com/translate%3Fu%3Dhttps://www.quora.com/Is-R-z225-haplogroup-germanic-or-iberian%26hl%3Dpt%26sl%3Den%26tl%3Dpt%26client%3Ds rp&ved=2ahUKEwiazpeZuseMAxWquJUCHTm1JTQQFnoECBYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0CsWaXLGPDNIRYnLstXVyO

And

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z225*/



Yes, Iberian.

[Gannicus]

Distance to: Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4
0.01187867 English_Southwest
0.01209539 Cornish
0.01328550 French_Brittany
0.01339487 English_West-Midlands
0.01370644 English_Southeast
0.01377887 Scottish_East
0.01391386 British
0.01394866 English
0.01421538 Welsh
0.01421629 Irish_Leinster
0.01433235 Scottish
0.01433312 English_East-Midlands
0.01455645 English_East
0.01459381 British_Ulster
0.01464236 English_Northeast
0.01512145 English_Lancashire
0.01540186 English_Yorkshire
0.01558187 Irish
0.01570639 Irish_Munster
0.01587779 Irish_Ulster
0.01653145 Irish_Connacht
0.01659575 Dutch_South
0.01703457 Flemish
0.01720192 Scottish_Orkney
0.01735809 Scottish_Southwest

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02523594 French_Brittany
0.02530856 French_Hauts-de-France
0.02552248 English_Southwest
0.02591814 French_Normandy
0.02598682 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
0.02607156 Cornish
0.02644417 English_Southeast
0.02658570 English_West-Midlands
0.02671699 English_East
0.02679760 Scottish_East
0.02692280 Flemish
0.02694459 English
0.02697181 British
0.02733536 Welsh
0.02735112 Scottish
0.02740779 English_East-Midlands
0.02745951 British_Ulster
0.02752444 Irish_Leinster
0.02753510 Dutch_South
0.02779342 English_Northeast
0.02781980 English_Lancashire
0.02784680 Walloon
0.02807437 English_Yorkshire
0.02811331 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
0.02813274 Irish

Target: Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4
Distance: 0.0092% / 0.00922907 | R5P
62.1 Cornish
20.8 Faroese
13.3 Basque_Spain
3.8 Darginian

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0200% / 0.02000476 | R5P
77.8 Irish_Munster
13.6 Basque_Spain
3.9 Turkish_Balikesir
2.7 Egyptian
2.0 Darginian

[Solitude]

According to Grok, there is no data connecting Z229, from Central Europe, with the Azores, but I found the YSEQ website to be very accurate about a relevant part of my origin.
It remains to be seen whether he actually took the Y-DNA or made an autosomal estimate.




Grok, what is the origin of haplogroup R-Z229 and R-Z225?

Haplogroup R-Z229 and R-Z225 are subclades of the broader Y-chromosome haplogroup R, which is a significant lineage in human population genetics, particularly among European and Western Asian populations. To understand their origins, we need to trace back through their parent haplogroups and the mutations (single nucleotide polymorphisms, or SNPs) that define them.
Parent Haplogroup: R1b and Its Spread
Both R-Z229 and R-Z225 belong to the R1b branch of haplogroup R, one of the most common haplogroups in Western Europe. R1b likely originated during the Upper Paleolithic period, around 20,000–25,000 years ago, in Western Asia or the Eurasian steppe. Its major subclade, R1b-M269, expanded significantly during the Neolithic and Bronze Age, often associated with the migrations of Indo-European-speaking peoples, including the Yamnaya culture from the Pontic-Caspian steppe (~5,000–4,000 years ago).
R-Z229 and R-Z225: Specific Mutations
R-Z229: This is a downstream subclade of R1b, defined by the Z229 SNP. It falls under the R1b-U152 branch, which is particularly prevalent in Central and Western Europe, including among populations in Italy, Switzerland, France, and southern Germany. R-U152 is often linked to the spread of Celtic and Italic peoples during the Bronze and Iron Ages (~4,000–2,000 years ago). R-Z229 itself is a more specific marker that likely emerged as a result of genetic drift or founder effects in a localized population within this broader U152 lineage.

R-Z225: Similarly, R-Z225 is another subclade of R1b, also tied to the U152 branch. It shares a close relationship with R-Z229 phylogenetically, suggesting they diverged from a common ancestor within the U152 group. R-Z225 is less widely documented in public databases, but its distribution appears to overlap with Z229 in parts of Central Europe, potentially indicating a shared history tied to ancient migrations or tribal movements.

Geographic and Historical Context
The U152 branch, including R-Z229 and R-Z225, is thought to have expanded during the Bronze Age, possibly with the spread of the Bell Beaker culture (~4,800–3,800 years ago), which connected Western Europe through trade and migration. These subclades are relatively rare compared to broader R1b lineages like R-M269 or R-L21, suggesting they represent more localized or regional population expansions. Their presence today is most notable in Alpine regions and areas influenced by ancient Celtic or Roman populations.
Timeline of Origin
R1b: Originated ~20,000–25,000 years ago, likely in Western Asia or the steppe.

R1b-M269: Expanded ~5,000–4,000 years ago with steppe migrations.

R1b-U152: Emerged ~4,000–3,000 years ago, linked to Central European Bronze Age cultures.

R-Z229 and R-Z225: Likely formed ~3,000–2,000 years ago or later, as finer branches of U152, though exact dating depends on further ancient DNA evidence and mutation rate estimates.

Conclusion
Haplogroups R-Z229 and R-Z225 trace their origins to the R1b-U152 lineage, which spread across Central and Western Europe during the Bronze Age. They represent more recent, localized mutations within this group, possibly tied to ancient Celtic or related populations in regions like the Alps or northern Italy. For precise origins, ongoing genetic studies and ancient DNA analysis continue to refine our understanding of their emergence and distribution.





However:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://translate.google.com/translate%3Fu%3Dhttps://www.quora.com/Is-R-z225-haplogroup-germanic-or-iberian%26hl%3Dpt%26sl%3Den%26tl%3Dpt%26client%3Ds rp&ved=2ahUKEwiazpeZuseMAxWquJUCHTm1JTQQFnoECBYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0CsWaXLGPDNIRYnLstXVyO

And

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z225*/



Yes, Iberian.

Você tem todos desde J , G , I , subclades do R1b seja L21 ou U106 , U152 , só não temos como testar as nossas outras linhagens paternais.

[leachim_x]

Target: Lx_K36
Distance: 0.4087% / 0.00408669 | R5P
32.0 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
24.2 Walloon
19.0 German_Lower_Saxony_North
15.8 Afrikaner
9.0 Faroese

[Grace O'Malley]

Target: Grace_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.4474% / 0.00447429 | R5P
55.6 Irish_Ulster
23.4 Faroese
15.4 Afrikaner
2.8 Darginian
2.8 Saami_Norway

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Grace_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.4474% / 0.00447429 | R5P
55.6 Irish_Ulster
23.4 Faroese
15.4 Afrikaner
2.8 Darginian
2.8 Saami_Norway



Target: SC_K36_Merged_Imputed_Gedmatch
Distance: 0.0074% / 0.00740194 | R7P | ADC: 0.5x RC
71.8 Irish_Ulster
16.4 German_Lower_Silesia
6.3 Kalash
5.5 Saami_Norway

both sets 2x no reductions:

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 0.0146% / 0.01461201 | ADC: 2x RC
50.9 Afrikaner
49.1 Faroese

Target: SC_K36_Merged_Imputed_Gedmatch
Distance: 0.0175% / 0.01750836 | ADC: 2x RC
53.4 Scottish_Highlands
46.6 Afrikaner

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Grace_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.4474% / 0.00447429 | R5P
55.6 Irish_Ulster
23.4 Faroese
15.4 Afrikaner
2.8 Darginian
2.8 Saami_Norway

BTW, I like this model for you. Looks good.

[EasternLusitanian]

Target: MV_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.0030% / 0.00302555 | R5P
60.2 French_South
17.7 Portuguese
13.2 Druze
4.9 Mozabite
4.0 Turkish_Balikesir

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: MV_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.0030% / 0.00302555 | R5P
60.2 French_South
17.7 Portuguese
13.2 Druze
4.9 Mozabite
4.0 Turkish_Balikesir

What are some differences between French South genetics vs Occitanie genetics? I lean more Basque-side maybe?

[Gergő Marosvári]

Based on my simulated coordinates:

Target: Gergő
Distance: 0.3821% / 0.00382062 | R5P
63.8 Ukrainian_Sumi
16.4 Spanish_Valencia
14.2 Turkish_Istanbul
4.2 Spanish_Canarias
1.4 Ukrainian_Cossack


Target: Gergő
Distance: 0.7497% / 0.00749705 | ADC: 0.5x
57.2 Hungarian
35.8 Moldova_North
3.8 Ukrainian_Carpathian_Rusyns
2.4 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.8 Jarawa

Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.0041% / 0.01004140 | ADC: 1x
66.2 Hungarian
33.8 Moldova_North

Distance to: Gergő
0.01187481 Hungarian
0.01342010 Moldova_North
0.01402617 Croat
0.01748948 Croat_Gorski_Kotar
0.01767772 Bosnian
0.01876316 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.01997972 Austrian_Carinthia
0.02058957 Slovenian
0.02186631 Moldova_Centre
0.02195973 Ukrainian_Carpathian_Rusyns
0.02365089 Czech_Moravia
0.02368182 Czech_Bohemia
0.02470469 Czech
0.02481583 Romanian_Northeast
0.02587758 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.02602080 Austrian_Styria
0.02679006 Serb_Dalmatia
0.02694450 Slovak
0.02736909 Romanian_Central
0.02820777 German_County_Glatz
0.02823936 German_North_Bohemia
0.02871307 German_Thuringia_East
0.02874188 German_Saxony
0.02928295 German_Lower_Silesia
0.02959530 German_Thuringia_Central

[R1b-L51]

According to Grok, there is no data connecting Z229, from Central Europe, with the Azores, but I found the YSEQ website to be very accurate about a relevant part of my origin.
It remains to be seen whether he actually took the Y-DNA or made an autosomal estimate.




Grok, what is the origin of haplogroup R-Z229 and R-Z225?

Haplogroup R-Z229 and R-Z225 are subclades of the broader Y-chromosome haplogroup R, which is a significant lineage in human population genetics, particularly among European and Western Asian populations. To understand their origins, we need to trace back through their parent haplogroups and the mutations (single nucleotide polymorphisms, or SNPs) that define them.
Parent Haplogroup: R1b and Its Spread
Both R-Z229 and R-Z225 belong to the R1b branch of haplogroup R, one of the most common haplogroups in Western Europe. R1b likely originated during the Upper Paleolithic period, around 20,000–25,000 years ago, in Western Asia or the Eurasian steppe. Its major subclade, R1b-M269, expanded significantly during the Neolithic and Bronze Age, often associated with the migrations of Indo-European-speaking peoples, including the Yamnaya culture from the Pontic-Caspian steppe (~5,000–4,000 years ago).
R-Z229 and R-Z225: Specific Mutations
R-Z229: This is a downstream subclade of R1b, defined by the Z229 SNP. It falls under the R1b-U152 branch, which is particularly prevalent in Central and Western Europe, including among populations in Italy, Switzerland, France, and southern Germany. R-U152 is often linked to the spread of Celtic and Italic peoples during the Bronze and Iron Ages (~4,000–2,000 years ago). R-Z229 itself is a more specific marker that likely emerged as a result of genetic drift or founder effects in a localized population within this broader U152 lineage.

R-Z225: Similarly, R-Z225 is another subclade of R1b, also tied to the U152 branch. It shares a close relationship with R-Z229 phylogenetically, suggesting they diverged from a common ancestor within the U152 group. R-Z225 is less widely documented in public databases, but its distribution appears to overlap with Z229 in parts of Central Europe, potentially indicating a shared history tied to ancient migrations or tribal movements.

Geographic and Historical Context
The U152 branch, including R-Z229 and R-Z225, is thought to have expanded during the Bronze Age, possibly with the spread of the Bell Beaker culture (~4,800–3,800 years ago), which connected Western Europe through trade and migration. These subclades are relatively rare compared to broader R1b lineages like R-M269 or R-L21, suggesting they represent more localized or regional population expansions. Their presence today is most notable in Alpine regions and areas influenced by ancient Celtic or Roman populations.
Timeline of Origin
R1b: Originated ~20,000–25,000 years ago, likely in Western Asia or the steppe.

R1b-M269: Expanded ~5,000–4,000 years ago with steppe migrations.

R1b-U152: Emerged ~4,000–3,000 years ago, linked to Central European Bronze Age cultures.

R-Z229 and R-Z225: Likely formed ~3,000–2,000 years ago or later, as finer branches of U152, though exact dating depends on further ancient DNA evidence and mutation rate estimates.

Conclusion
Haplogroups R-Z229 and R-Z225 trace their origins to the R1b-U152 lineage, which spread across Central and Western Europe during the Bronze Age. They represent more recent, localized mutations within this group, possibly tied to ancient Celtic or related populations in regions like the Alps or northern Italy. For precise origins, ongoing genetic studies and ancient DNA analysis continue to refine our understanding of their emergence and distribution.





However:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://translate.google.com/translate%3Fu%3Dhttps://www.quora.com/Is-R-z225-haplogroup-germanic-or-iberian%26hl%3Dpt%26sl%3Den%26tl%3Dpt%26client%3Ds rp&ved=2ahUKEwiazpeZuseMAxWquJUCHTm1JTQQFnoECBYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0CsWaXLGPDNIRYnLstXVyO

And

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z225*/



Yes, Iberian.

How strange, right? These people seem to like the islands.

[R1b-L51]

According to Grok, there is no data connecting Z229, from Central Europe, with the Azores, but I found the YSEQ website to be very accurate about a relevant part of my origin.
It remains to be seen whether he actually took the Y-DNA or made an autosomal estimate.




Grok, what is the origin of haplogroup R-Z229 and R-Z225?

Haplogroup R-Z229 and R-Z225 are subclades of the broader Y-chromosome haplogroup R, which is a significant lineage in human population genetics, particularly among European and Western Asian populations. To understand their origins, we need to trace back through their parent haplogroups and the mutations (single nucleotide polymorphisms, or SNPs) that define them.
Parent Haplogroup: R1b and Its Spread
Both R-Z229 and R-Z225 belong to the R1b branch of haplogroup R, one of the most common haplogroups in Western Europe. R1b likely originated during the Upper Paleolithic period, around 20,000–25,000 years ago, in Western Asia or the Eurasian steppe. Its major subclade, R1b-M269, expanded significantly during the Neolithic and Bronze Age, often associated with the migrations of Indo-European-speaking peoples, including the Yamnaya culture from the Pontic-Caspian steppe (~5,000–4,000 years ago).
R-Z229 and R-Z225: Specific Mutations
R-Z229: This is a downstream subclade of R1b, defined by the Z229 SNP. It falls under the R1b-U152 branch, which is particularly prevalent in Central and Western Europe, including among populations in Italy, Switzerland, France, and southern Germany. R-U152 is often linked to the spread of Celtic and Italic peoples during the Bronze and Iron Ages (~4,000–2,000 years ago). R-Z229 itself is a more specific marker that likely emerged as a result of genetic drift or founder effects in a localized population within this broader U152 lineage.

R-Z225: Similarly, R-Z225 is another subclade of R1b, also tied to the U152 branch. It shares a close relationship with R-Z229 phylogenetically, suggesting they diverged from a common ancestor within the U152 group. R-Z225 is less widely documented in public databases, but its distribution appears to overlap with Z229 in parts of Central Europe, potentially indicating a shared history tied to ancient migrations or tribal movements.

Geographic and Historical Context
The U152 branch, including R-Z229 and R-Z225, is thought to have expanded during the Bronze Age, possibly with the spread of the Bell Beaker culture (~4,800–3,800 years ago), which connected Western Europe through trade and migration. These subclades are relatively rare compared to broader R1b lineages like R-M269 or R-L21, suggesting they represent more localized or regional population expansions. Their presence today is most notable in Alpine regions and areas influenced by ancient Celtic or Roman populations.
Timeline of Origin
R1b: Originated ~20,000–25,000 years ago, likely in Western Asia or the steppe.

R1b-M269: Expanded ~5,000–4,000 years ago with steppe migrations.

R1b-U152: Emerged ~4,000–3,000 years ago, linked to Central European Bronze Age cultures.

R-Z229 and R-Z225: Likely formed ~3,000–2,000 years ago or later, as finer branches of U152, though exact dating depends on further ancient DNA evidence and mutation rate estimates.

Conclusion
Haplogroups R-Z229 and R-Z225 trace their origins to the R1b-U152 lineage, which spread across Central and Western Europe during the Bronze Age. They represent more recent, localized mutations within this group, possibly tied to ancient Celtic or related populations in regions like the Alps or northern Italy. For precise origins, ongoing genetic studies and ancient DNA analysis continue to refine our understanding of their emergence and distribution.





However:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://translate.google.com/translate%3Fu%3Dhttps://www.quora.com/Is-R-z225-haplogroup-germanic-or-iberian%26hl%3Dpt%26sl%3Den%26tl%3Dpt%26client%3Ds rp&ved=2ahUKEwiazpeZuseMAxWquJUCHTm1JTQQFnoECBYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0CsWaXLGPDNIRYnLstXVyO

And

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z225*/



Yes, Iberian.

Super interesting!!

[R1b-L51]

What are some differences between French South genetics vs Occitanie genetics? I lean more Basque-side maybe?
Biscaia/Irish L-21 Dutch Bell Baker

[ScandinavianCelt]

Biscaia/Irish L-21 Dutch Bell Baker

I'm thinking to post an ancient calculator that I made today and it's sort of breaks up your ancient roots how much Eastern and Northern and dividing in the northwestern most Bill Baker with the Czech Republic provides really an interesting division maybe showing westernmost genetics versus Eastern as well as sometimes northernmost I think probably came through the Netherlands during the Bell Baker I don't know but it seems that the majority of the northern genetics will pick that up in largest amounts and then maybe more Central and Eastern and even maybe Eastern side of Germany which technically is Western but really I think has a lot of the Eastern influence over there especially maybe in certain bordering areas even in the South with Austria and Switzerland

[JerryS.]

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7205% / 0.01720474 | R5P
48.0 Faroese
46.0 Walloon
3.4 Mozabite
2.6 Pashtun_Kurram

Terrible 😆

[JerryS.]

Cherry picking using only my known ethnicities.


British,0.136530,0.143196,0.064576,0.044659,0.0441 75,0.018718,0.003738,0.005486,0.006198,0.005112,-0.006360,0.005056,-0.011499,-0.007145,0.019971,0.005338,-0.008735,0.001796,0.003962,0.002708,0.004828,0.002 818,-0.001250,0.012309,-0.000312
British_Ulster,0.136798,0.142034,0.065262,0.046978 ,0.043433,0.019692,0.003618,0.005467,0.005856,0.00 3638,-0.006374,0.004934,-0.011423,-0.008499,0.022190,0.006070,-0.009707,0.001779,0.003195,0.003127,0.005136,0.003 293,-0.001630,0.012456,-0.000586

English,0.136505,0.143313,0.064454,0.044308,0.0442 77,0.018562,0.003767,0.005469,0.006275,0.005357,-0.006365,0.005084,-0.011491,-0.006927,0.019658,0.005267,-0.008591,0.001799,0.004102,0.002636,0.004785,0.002 753,-0.001249,0.012219,-0.000284
English_East,0.136018,0.143103,0.063243,0.042851,0 .043931,0.018020,0.003814,0.005339,0.006277,0.0059 03,-0.006317,0.005114,-0.011404,-0.005965,0.018059,0.004645,-0.007696,0.001794,0.004268,0.002751,0.004905,0.002 364,-0.001031,0.011309,-0.000233
English_East-Midlands,0.136769,0.143893,0.064134,0.043477,0.044 454,0.018164,0.004111,0.005680,0.006084,0.005560,-0.006382,0.005124,-0.011250,-0.006543,0.018461,0.004920,-0.008205,0.001798,0.004460,0.002149,0.003955,0.003 048,-0.001015,0.012295,-0.000587
English_Lancashire,0.136604,0.143554,0.065637,0.04 5236,0.045432,0.018961,0.003555,0.005242,0.007131, 0.005737,-0.006686,0.005006,-0.011449,-0.006452,0.020438,0.005717,-0.008924,0.001991,0.004291,0.002920,0.005408,0.002 300,-0.001330,0.012549,-0.000204
English_Northeast,0.136734,0.143032,0.065414,0.045 261,0.044151,0.018919,0.003833,0.005902,0.006143,0 .004692,-0.006046,0.004845,-0.011109,-0.007391,0.019517,0.005296,-0.008762,0.001532,0.003589,0.002036,0.004090,0.003 111,-0.001281,0.012437,-0.000842
English_Southeast,0.136115,0.143156,0.063631,0.043 801,0.043827,0.018329,0.003790,0.005425,0.005915,0 .005264,-0.006376,0.005100,-0.011589,-0.006678,0.019536,0.005243,-0.008465,0.001744,0.004137,0.002721,0.004906,0.002 527,-0.001230,0.012138,-0.000023
English_Southwest,0.136194,0.143187,0.064276,0.043 931,0.044333,0.018239,0.003216,0.005379,0.007434,0 .006657,-0.006061,0.005337,-0.012100,-0.008891,0.020786,0.005279,-0.009408,0.001606,0.003236,0.002254,0.004761,0.003 331,-0.001341,0.011810,-0.000446
English_Yorkshire,0.136694,0.142746,0.065280,0.046 497,0.044455,0.019533,0.003659,0.005350,0.006137,0 .004287,-0.006633,0.005003,-0.011282,-0.006734,0.021058,0.005625,-0.009566,0.001858,0.004261,0.003061,0.005410,0.002 769,-0.001350,0.012972,0.000171
English_West-Midlands,0.136618,0.143238,0.064551,0.044200,0.044 072,0.018508,0.003903,0.005679,0.006016,0.005212,-0.006284,0.005209,-0.011651,-0.007601,0.019592,0.005419,-0.008288,0.001787,0.004029,0.002771,0.004720,0.003 014,-0.001292,0.012301,-0.000469
Cornish,0.136336,0.144106,0.064823,0.043909,0.0448 74,0.018597,0.002677,0.005086,0.007361,0.006751,-0.006213,0.005381,-0.012600,-0.008376,0.020852,0.005162,-0.009559,0.001585,0.003225,0.002098,0.004810,0.002 927,-0.001265,0.012669,-0.000353

German,0.136149,0.141186,0.063121,0.043280,0.04275 2,0.018171,0.005361,0.006684,0.003609,0.001160,-0.005900,0.002606,-0.006085,0.002855,0.009575,0.003042,-0.003948,0.001320,0.005575,0.001977,0.003261,-0.000492,0.000237,0.008874,0.000509
German_Baden-Württemberg,0.133309,0.143764,0.052570,0.027832,0. 038358,0.012332,0.004045,0.004652,0.002931,0.00893 0,-0.004596,0.005636,-0.011316,-0.003186,0.008507,0.001611,-0.002862,0.000998,0.004630,-0.000199,0.002011,0.001404,-0.000391,0.008176,-0.000600
German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia,0.134464,0.144319,0.057031,0.0346 22,0.039796,0.015260,0.004042,0.005395,0.003511,0. 003932,-0.005158,0.004035,-0.008963,-0.004082,0.013329,0.004930,-0.004583,0.001126,0.003694,0.001777,0.002802,0.001 129,-0.000071,0.009623,-0.001032
German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz,0.134811,0.141611,0.05827 8,0.036396,0.040010,0.015448,0.005037,0.005978,0.0 02770,0.002933,-0.004918,0.003143,-0.006894,0.001961,0.008406,0.001309,-0.003888,0.000940,0.004425,0.001153,0.003190,0.000 192,0.000342,0.007999,-0.000121
German_Bavaria_proper,0.133129,0.144554,0.054438,0 .028987,0.039961,0.012389,0.004148,0.005059,0.0046 14,0.008707,-0.004590,0.004709,-0.010154,-0.002159,0.009005,0.001784,-0.002992,0.000963,0.003590,0.000803,0.004110,0.000 510,-0.000172,0.006494,-0.000806
German_Bavarian_Swabia,0.133485,0.145168,0.052981, 0.027689,0.041321,0.012098,0.004832,0.004943,0.004 920,0.007580,-0.005513,0.002807,-0.005629,0.006897,0.004125,0.002735,-0.000606,0.001546,0.006130,-0.000145,0.003432,-0.003684,0.000472,0.004754,0.000900
German_Brandenburg_Northwest,0.136878,0.136056,0.0 68695,0.055098,0.043944,0.022370,0.006541,0.008412 ,0.003677,-0.005720,-0.006824,-0.000150,-0.001153,0.008483,0.008485,0.004853,-0.003595,0.001358,0.006967,0.003902,0.003656,-0.002784,0.000627,0.007993,0.002477
German_County_Glatz,0.136003,0.141147,0.062420,0.0 40656,0.043580,0.017384,0.006353,0.007913,0.004225 ,0.000849,-0.005974,0.000492,-0.003716,0.010998,0.002760,0.001349,-0.000225,0.000850,0.006912,0.002762,0.001397,-0.003861,0.000386,0.005660,0.000752
German_East,0.136988,0.137300,0.068516,0.051728,0. 043962,0.021133,0.006790,0.008401,0.002697,-0.006057,-0.006023,-0.000870,0.000558,0.011995,0.004299,0.002491,-0.001932,0.001003,0.006307,0.002865,0.003034,-0.003511,0.001441,0.006860,0.001484
German_East_Prussia_Central,0.139910,0.137333,0.07 4736,0.060239,0.045830,0.024426,0.007193,0.009120, 0.003903,-0.007627,-0.006685,0.000101,-0.001231,0.004128,0.012348,0.005866,-0.004860,0.001786,0.005519,0.004255,0.003180,0.000 244,-0.000467,0.009529,-0.000130
German_East_Prussia_Masuria,0.138131,0.130080,0.07 8247,0.065741,0.043909,0.025602,0.009332,0.011942, 0.001169,-0.017964,-0.004623,-0.006251,0.011273,0.021125,-0.004113,0.001967,0.001465,-0.000142,0.005035,0.002807,0.001257,-0.006278,0.003229,0.001818,0.001545
German_East_Prussia_Memelland,0.139866,0.127717,0. 082097,0.072153,0.047912,0.028203,0.010240,0.01275 2,0.002240,-0.022530,-0.005998,-0.010358,0.018226,0.038986,-0.010011,0.000164,0.003039,0.000058,0.007829,0.004 830,0.004546,-0.013672,0.003644,-0.001064,0.005919
German_Farther_Pomerania,0.138700,0.135277,0.07407 2,0.060029,0.045227,0.024149,0.007368,0.009632,0.0 03292,-0.010216,-0.005686,-0.002420,0.003459,0.013932,0.005839,0.002210,-0.004125,0.000579,0.005152,0.003094,0.003877,-0.003572,0.001082,0.006010,0.002185
German_Frisian,0.139116,0.142116,0.071650,0.056732 ,0.047556,0.023791,0.004976,0.006816,0.006024,-0.001179,-0.008240,0.002856,-0.008074,-0.002070,0.022606,0.007731,-0.009758,0.002775,0.005833,0.005500,0.006691,0.000 869,-0.001161,0.014395,0.000716
German_Hesse_South,0.132178,0.145286,0.055086,0.02 8064,0.041894,0.012064,0.003434,0.004529,0.007229, 0.012405,-0.004964,0.005372,-0.011566,-0.004178,0.009575,0.003299,-0.002686,0.001695,0.004698,-0.000244,0.002724,0.000274,-0.000548,0.007361,-0.000053
German_Hither_Pomerania,0.137741,0.138639,0.069312 ,0.054124,0.043705,0.022557,0.005618,0.007513,0.00 2489,-0.006067,-0.006231,0.000487,-0.002766,0.006642,0.012592,0.003001,-0.006248,0.001009,0.004249,0.004333,0.005721,-0.001945,0.000774,0.009109,0.001715
German_Lower_Saxony_North,0.138685,0.138882,0.0684 16,0.055089,0.042887,0.023244,0.005580,0.007072,0. 002488,-0.003530,-0.007209,0.003148,-0.007654,-0.003283,0.020296,0.006396,-0.009244,0.002318,0.005619,0.004223,0.004798,0.002 558,-0.000970,0.014884,0.000247
German_Lower_Saxony_South,0.137106,0.142258,0.0658 22,0.049258,0.043736,0.021041,0.005154,0.006315,0. 003635,-0.000361,-0.006885,0.003660,-0.007930,-0.002129,0.017532,0.005079,-0.008405,0.001882,0.005661,0.002357,0.003426,0.002 208,-0.000322,0.013161,-0.000335
German_Lower_Silesia,0.137560,0.137317,0.068144,0. 051884,0.043383,0.021896,0.007317,0.009189,0.00157 7,-0.007809,-0.005991,-0.002384,0.002072,0.017017,-0.001366,0.001599,0.002458,0.000975,0.006548,0.004 054,0.002640,-0.006685,0.002009,0.002118,0.002382
German_Mecklenburg_Center/East,0.138639,0.137868,0.069913,0.054648,0.043445, 0.022654,0.006124,0.007827,0.001896,-0.006464,-0.006680,0.000688,-0.003275,0.005160,0.013873,0.003460,-0.006576,0.001614,0.005098,0.004972,0.004638,-0.000840,0.000512,0.010687,0.001229
German_Mecklenburg_West,0.138918,0.138475,0.072541 ,0.058117,0.045902,0.023868,0.006568,0.008169,0.00 3108,-0.007386,-0.007001,-0.000409,-0.000668,0.008819,0.011360,0.004355,-0.005477,0.001731,0.006142,0.004266,0.005108,-0.002244,0.000998,0.010071,0.001366
German_North_Bohemia,0.135606,0.139895,0.064649,0. 043611,0.043669,0.017756,0.005615,0.007603,0.00403 6,-0.000591,-0.005468,-0.000028,-0.002303,0.009605,0.002875,0.001829,-0.000198,0.000615,0.005220,0.002071,0.001950,-0.004061,0.002078,0.005430,0.000566
German_North_Moravia,0.135908,0.142678,0.058677,0. 039066,0.042742,0.017158,0.005630,0.005908,0.00364 7,0.000918,-0.007099,0.001591,-0.004961,0.009298,0.010184,0.003191,-0.003915,0.001647,0.006253,0.003630,0.004344,-0.003606,-0.000411,0.007812,0.001250
German_North_Rhine,0.134185,0.145458,0.054332,0.03 1850,0.041547,0.014373,0.004207,0.004367,0.004856, 0.009823,-0.006317,0.006334,-0.012161,-0.002336,0.012197,0.003238,-0.004411,0.001858,0.006082,0.000565,0.003736,0.000 621,-0.001449,0.008243,0.000753
German_Northwest,0.137681,0.140831,0.066510,0.0493 30,0.043128,0.020702,0.005031,0.006561,0.003577,-0.000337,-0.006337,0.003471,-0.008055,-0.003103,0.016948,0.004685,-0.008057,0.001858,0.005333,0.002950,0.003838,0.002 606,-0.000344,0.012862,0.000094
German_Saarland,0.134426,0.148603,0.055363,0.02600 3,0.044443,0.011593,0.003084,0.004715,0.008879,0.0 15057,-0.005434,0.006202,-0.012677,-0.004101,0.008810,0.002426,-0.003688,0.001559,0.006029,-0.001178,0.001337,0.001607,-0.000527,0.008976,-0.000740
German_Saxony,0.134692,0.140553,0.063626,0.043821, 0.043066,0.018441,0.005970,0.007281,0.003202,-0.002273,-0.005836,0.000668,-0.001581,0.010245,0.004022,0.002127,-0.001947,0.000825,0.006404,0.001741,0.002453,-0.003358,0.001523,0.006375,0.001479
German_Saxony-Anhalt_South,0.137479,0.139230,0.065116,0.047153,0 .043045,0.019689,0.006421,0.007205,0.001733,-0.003223,-0.006258,0.000696,-0.001935,0.009811,0.004552,0.002017,-0.002882,0.001501,0.007954,0.001133,0.001087,-0.001232,0.001238,0.010520,0.000551
German_Schleswig-Holstein,0.138408,0.140304,0.067986,0.051320,0.044 102,0.021597,0.004741,0.006228,0.003835,-0.000487,-0.006943,0.003588,-0.008760,-0.001980,0.017813,0.005262,-0.007792,0.001994,0.006056,0.004446,0.005263,0.001 756,-0.001239,0.013028,0.001081
German_South,0.133672,0.145093,0.055155,0.030165,0 .041161,0.013267,0.004007,0.004902,0.004776,0.0099 29,-0.005329,0.005643,-0.011698,-0.002838,0.009885,0.002503,-0.003177,0.001291,0.004868,0.000260,0.003147,0.000 547,-0.000590,0.008127,-0.000226
German_Rhineland-Palatinate,0.132736,0.146004,0.054420,0.027135,0.0 41430,0.011884,0.003256,0.004886,0.006984,0.011899 ,-0.005021,0.005449,-0.011960,-0.005371,0.011568,0.003040,-0.004409,0.001423,0.004567,0.000386,0.002159,0.001 521,-0.000553,0.009135,-0.000667
German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine,0.134975,0.145701,0.05663 1,0.033785,0.042459,0.014978,0.003906,0.004302,0.0 05115,0.008335,-0.006505,0.006269,-0.012677,-0.003391,0.016723,0.004435,-0.006399,0.001456,0.005255,0.003064,0.005976,0.000 934,-0.002252,0.010834,0.000387
German_Thuringia_Central,0.135411,0.139854,0.06267 9,0.042480,0.042893,0.017378,0.005833,0.007358,0.0 05076,0.001133,-0.005191,0.000980,-0.003522,0.007021,0.004762,0.001678,-0.001006,0.000770,0.003981,0.002216,0.003768,-0.002595,0.000437,0.003356,0.000075
German_Thuringia_East,0.136967,0.136842,0.064731,0 .047873,0.040831,0.020093,0.006215,0.007147,0.0005 58,-0.005880,-0.005494,-0.000287,-0.000615,0.011196,0.003030,0.000938,-0.001797,0.000877,0.006376,0.002170,0.001759,-0.002160,0.001491,0.007094,0.000867
German_West_Bohemia,0.134778,0.142829,0.058566,0.0 34360,0.041975,0.014305,0.004657,0.006475,0.005428 ,0.005662,-0.004979,0.002901,-0.007085,0.002295,0.007313,0.001931,-0.002763,0.000956,0.004321,0.001416,0.004721,-0.001412,0.000059,0.005687,0.001186
German_West_Prussia,0.138214,0.134960,0.072444,0.0 57997,0.044091,0.023279,0.007448,0.009531,0.001964 ,-0.010799,-0.005626,-0.002859,0.004060,0.015306,0.002813,0.001379,-0.001961,0.000661,0.005095,0.003456,0.003789,-0.004392,0.002244,0.004800,0.001901
German_Westphalia,0.137918,0.140735,0.065906,0.048 675,0.042136,0.020452,0.005342,0.006492,0.002356,-0.000883,-0.006308,0.003929,-0.008646,-0.004327,0.018232,0.004656,-0.008448,0.001898,0.004918,0.003255,0.003892,0.003 406,-0.000689,0.013680,-0.000561

Irish,0.136535,0.142084,0.065490,0.048056,0.043419 ,0.020239,0.003304,0.005372,0.005809,0.002976,-0.006392,0.004859,-0.011337,-0.008592,0.023055,0.006049,-0.010316,0.001592,0.002636,0.003304,0.005465,0.003 093,-0.001444,0.012408,-0.000275
Irish_Connacht,0.136582,0.141854,0.065770,0.048745 ,0.043166,0.020647,0.003318,0.005432,0.005513,0.00 2237,-0.006339,0.004742,-0.011142,-0.008570,0.023515,0.006076,-0.010505,0.001582,0.002483,0.003673,0.005761,0.003 006,-0.001319,0.012609,-0.000237
Irish_Leinster,0.136594,0.143180,0.065566,0.046585 ,0.044091,0.019680,0.003395,0.005650,0.006215,0.00 4074,-0.006254,0.005025,-0.011744,-0.008486,0.022296,0.005765,-0.009925,0.001519,0.002775,0.003047,0.005317,0.003 001,-0.001442,0.012515,-0.000383
Irish_Munster,0.136681,0.142453,0.065754,0.048352, 0.043777,0.020484,0.002994,0.005118,0.005970,0.003 177,-0.006581,0.004996,-0.011652,-0.008645,0.023758,0.006395,-0.010583,0.001667,0.002803,0.003433,0.005853,0.002 873,-0.001520,0.012800,-0.000064
Irish_Ulster,0.136375,0.142581,0.065570,0.048268,0 .043793,0.020546,0.002797,0.005116,0.006412,0.0033 16,-0.006545,0.004787,-0.011680,-0.008625,0.024361,0.006411,-0.010807,0.001575,0.002239,0.003666,0.006101,0.002 434,-0.001464,0.012149,-0.000078
Italian,0.119822,0.153483,0.014635,-0.023539,0.026386,-0.006947,0.001219,0.000316,0.006419,0.025806,-0.001268,0.007180,-0.012080,-0.003033,-0.003688,-0.000367,0.002267,0.000485,0.004661,-0.005004,-0.001124,0.000297,-0.001182,0.000528,-0.000330
Italian_Aosta,0.129883,0.152874,0.040888,0.005813, 0.040675,0.003471,0.001845,0.001974,0.010052,0.025 194,-0.004613,0.009112,-0.017377,-0.007546,0.006589,0.001490,-0.001103,0.001551,0.005326,-0.002984,0.001354,0.001729,-0.001856,0.004278,-0.000531
Italian_Apulia,0.113170,0.151471,-0.005877,-0.041228,0.014801,-0.014024,0.000958,-0.001299,0.002235,0.022183,0.000255,0.004529,-0.007418,0.002179,-0.010136,-0.000443,0.004785,0.000198,0.005031,-0.003785,-0.001914,0.000006,-0.001376,-0.000598,0.000528
Italian_Calabria,0.107180,0.154024,-0.014132,-0.054526,0.010462,-0.018274,0.000025,-0.001738,0.003564,0.024488,0.002269,0.003963,-0.005150,0.000942,-0.011552,-0.001003,0.004743,-0.000198,0.003249,-0.004703,-0.002518,-0.001058,-0.000426,-0.002339,-0.000021
Italian_Campania,0.110709,0.154478,-0.009748,-0.048850,0.012655,-0.015907,0.000437,-0.001681,0.003188,0.025246,0.001673,0.004853,-0.007468,-0.000180,-0.010088,-0.000212,0.004180,0.000336,0.004363,-0.006177,-0.002135,-0.000272,-0.000962,-0.001329,-0.000096
Italian_Friuli,0.126767,0.150420,0.035408,0.000466 ,0.035732,0.001859,0.002506,0.003197,0.008197,0.01 8812,-0.002805,0.004650,-0.008743,0.001842,-0.002428,0.000288,0.001411,0.000462,0.005489,-0.003482,-0.001170,-0.001326,0.000052,0.002384,-0.000297
Italian_Lazio,0.116191,0.155568,0.005398,-0.037003,0.022548,-0.012218,0.000148,-0.001039,0.007116,0.029893,0.000097,0.007083,-0.011871,-0.004080,-0.005853,-0.000158,0.003404,0.000577,0.003877,-0.006371,-0.001832,-0.000267,-0.000852,-0.000599,-0.000921
Italian_Marche,0.120669,0.154506,0.016091,-0.024305,0.028295,-0.007878,0.000486,0.000099,0.008717,0.029383,-0.001319,0.007695,-0.013426,-0.005940,-0.004585,0.000856,0.003118,0.000838,0.005524,-0.006407,-0.002293,0.001127,-0.001104,0.000735,-0.000621
Italian_North,0.127828,0.151528,0.036440,0.001693, 0.036928,0.002428,0.002475,0.002608,0.007729,0.022 669,-0.003628,0.008002,-0.014169,-0.004124,0.001778,0.000309,0.000124,0.000811,0.005 485,-0.004321,-0.000739,0.001034,-0.001149,0.003593,-0.000948
Italian_Sicily,0.104966,0.153015,-0.009184,-0.049655,0.013753,-0.017114,-0.001060,-0.001321,0.007979,0.024893,0.002209,0.003412,-0.004019,-0.001117,-0.007454,0.000015,0.002362,-0.000680,0.001397,-0.003960,-0.001889,-0.001330,-0.000108,-0.001459,0.000190
Italian_South,0.109018,0.153623,-0.008915,-0.048079,0.013450,-0.016049,-0.000224,-0.001781,0.005068,0.024254,0.001716,0.004220,-0.005640,-0.000274,-0.008192,-0.000077,0.002884,-0.000014,0.003046,-0.004441,-0.001259,-0.000585,-0.000797,-0.001506,0.000245
Italian_Tuscany,0.120911,0.154742,0.016907,-0.023308,0.028705,-0.007093,0.000854,0.000132,0.006976,0.029052,-0.001627,0.008741,-0.015198,-0.004138,-0.003676,-0.001401,0.003160,-0.000013,0.004315,-0.005287,-0.001076,-0.000305,-0.001089,-0.000098,-0.000214
Italian_Val_Borbera,0.124010,0.153834,0.022616,-0.015244,0.030949,-0.003632,0.001808,0.001062,0.006648,0.026385,-0.002376,0.008257,-0.014385,-0.003798,-0.002548,-0.000502,0.002169,0.000835,0.005709,-0.005549,-0.001336,0.000601,-0.001172,0.001490,-0.000250
Italian_Veneto,0.129405,0.150536,0.037379,0.003949 ,0.037017,0.003279,0.003655,0.003412,0.006782,0.02 0764,-0.003904,0.007136,-0.013087,0.000177,-0.001090,-0.001102,0.001752,0.000749,0.005841,-0.003421,-0.000168,-0.000085,-0.001678,0.001227,-0.000443


Scottish,0.136480,0.142229,0.065030,0.046666,0.043 137,0.019775,0.003604,0.005508,0.005417,0.003325,-0.006337,0.004947,-0.011498,-0.008460,0.021771,0.005846,-0.009548,0.001788,0.003337,0.003005,0.004824,0.003 293,-0.001293,0.013022,-0.000642
Scottish_East,0.136487,0.142358,0.063992,0.046287, 0.042893,0.019899,0.003237,0.005137,0.005191,0.003 640,-0.006657,0.005113,-0.011963,-0.008174,0.022008,0.006019,-0.009554,0.001874,0.003652,0.003206,0.004989,0.002 816,-0.001188,0.013030,-0.000273
Scottish_Highlands,0.134430,0.140197,0.067166,0.04 9028,0.042620,0.020079,0.004676,0.006400,0.005158,-0.000021,-0.005803,0.004179,-0.009315,-0.007738,0.020723,0.005165,-0.009076,0.001324,0.002505,0.003009,0.004197,0.003 939,-0.001439,0.011902,-0.001286
Scottish_Orkney,0.136432,0.140758,0.066516,0.04792 3,0.043275,0.019715,0.003328,0.005590,0.006181,0.0 02886,-0.005724,0.004180,-0.010037,-0.007810,0.020609,0.005489,-0.009535,0.001370,0.002530,0.002372,0.004592,0.003 175,-0.001240,0.011387,-0.000615
Scottish_Southwest,0.136721,0.142990,0.065242,0.04 7701,0.044000,0.020379,0.003741,0.005689,0.005498, 0.002732,-0.006721,0.004370,-0.010601,-0.005975,0.021676,0.005960,-0.009609,0.001827,0.003502,0.003281,0.005554,0.001 863,-0.000919,0.012772,-0.000165

Welsh,0.136600,0.143075,0.065553,0.046391,0.044330 ,0.019363,0.003427,0.005629,0.006293,0.004324,-0.006391,0.004948,-0.011722,-0.008287,0.022005,0.005729,-0.009701,0.001729,0.003044,0.003298,0.005618,0.002 905,-0.001209,0.012645,-0.000147


English, Irish and German still MIA.

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.9973% / 0.01997271
68.2 Scottish_Highlands
18.8 Scottish_East
11.6 Italian_Apulia
1.4 Italian_Sicily

[Gannicus]

ADC 0.5x

Target: Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4
Distance: 0.0111% / 0.01112495 | ADC: 0.5x RC
77.1 English_Southwest
22.9 French_Hauts-de-France

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0217% / 0.02168798 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.5 English_Southwest
30.8 Scottish_East
8.6 French_Hauts-de-France
5.1 Bedoiun

2-way:

52,326 models (58 ms):
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 72% Faroese + 28% Spanish_Cantabria
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 87% Scottish_East + 13% Spanish_Pirineu
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 81% Irish_Munster + 19% Italian_Aosta
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 87% Scottish_East + 13% Spanish_Cantabria
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 87% Scottish_East + 13% Spanish_Castello
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 88% Scottish_East + 12% Spanish_Andalusia
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 87% Scottish_East + 13% Spanish_Aragon
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 72% Faroese + 28% French_South
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 87% Scottish_East + 13% Spanish_Lleida
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 86% Scottish + 14% Spanish_Pirineu

52,326 models (66 ms):
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 94% English_Southwest + 6% Palestinian
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 84% Scottish_East + 16% Spanish_Canarias
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 95% English_Southwest + 5% Bedoiun
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 95% English_Southwest + 5% Egyptian
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 82% Irish_Munster + 18% Spanish_Canarias
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 92% Irish_Munster + 8% Palestinian
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 95% English_Southwest + 5% Yemenite_Mahra
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 88% Irish_Munster + 12% Maltese
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 87% Irish_Munster + 13% Ashkenazi
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 69% Faroese + 31% Spanish_Andalusia


What's the link to create k36 simulated coordinates? I'll make some for my merged file.

[cass]

Target: cass
Distance: 0.7778% / 0.00777840 | R5P
62.8 German_West_Prussia
18.4 Ukrainian_Cossack
13.6 German_East_Prussia_Central
2.8 Yemenite_Mahra
2.4 Sindhi

Target: casssimK36
Distance: 0.5370% / 0.00536997 | R5P
48.2 Polish_Podlasie_East_Mazovia
18.4 German_County_Glatz
14.4 Afrikaner
13.0 Russian_Don_Cossack
6.0 Spanish_Valencia


Target: casssimK36
Distance: 0.5574% / 0.00557433 | R4P
50.0 Polish_Podlasie_East_Mazovia
24.8 Afrikaner
21.6 Ukrainian_Carpathian_Rusyns
3.6 Basque_Spain

Target: cass
Distance: 0.8157% / 0.00815657 | R4P
69.8 Polish_North
20.0 German_Thuringia_Central
7.0 Spanish_Canarias
3.2 Sindhi

[Eurafricanid]

Target: Eurafricanid-k35-scaled
Distance: 0.8003% / 0.00800333
43.1 Mende_Sierra_Leone
26.6 Spanish_Alacant
12.8 Basque_Spain
4.9 Maltese
3.3 Sardinian
3.2 Egyptian
1.8 Piapoco
1.0 Mari
0.8 Todzin
0.6 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.6 Mala
0.6 Pima
0.3 Quechua
0.2 Jarawa
0.1 Bedoiun
0.1 Ulchi



Target: Eurafricanid-k35-scaled
Distance: 0.9877% / 0.00987745 | R5P
46.3 Spanish_Alacant
42.7 Mende_Sierra_Leone
5.3 Egyptian
3.0 Tatar_Crimea
2.7 Karitiana


A bit fuzzy on the edges, but not bad.

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7205% / 0.01720474 | R5P
48.0 Faroese
46.0 Walloon
3.4 Mozabite
2.6 Pashtun_Kurram

Terrible 😆

did you use your k36 sims?

[Wend-Kruzek]

Target: Wend-Kruzek_scaled org
Distance: 1.6069% / 0.01606883 | R5P
41.2 German_Farther_Pomerania
34.2 Polish_Sudovia
11.0 Sardinian
10.6 Darginian
3.0 Udmurt

Target: Wend-Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 1.9588% / 0.01958813 | ADC: 1x RC
53.6 Czech_Bohemia
23.8 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
22.6 Hungarian

Distance to: Wend-Kruzek_scaled
0.02042018 Czech_Bohemia
0.02172955 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02190999 Czech
0.02219180 Czech_Moravia
0.02250772 Slovak
0.02359991 Hungarian
0.02379228 German_Thuringia_East
0.02435897 Ukrainian_Carpathian_Rusyns
0.02460578 Slovenian
0.02469202 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.02525322 German_Lower_Silesia
0.02554523 Croat_Gorski_Kotar
0.02599135 Austrian_Carinthia
0.02638222 Polish_South
0.02698423 German_East
0.02712822 Polish_Southeast_Carpathia
0.02727195 German_West_Prussia
0.02753860 Polish_Upper_Silesia
0.02827890 German_Saxony
0.02874704 Croat
0.02882156 German_North_Bohemia
0.02888240 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
0.02946289 Ukrainian
0.03053048 German_Thuringia_Central
0.03053115 German_Farther_Pomerania
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Distance to: Admix36 Gedm36_simulated_g25_scaled
0.00817447 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.01098240 Ukrainian_Carpathian_Rusyns
0.01164707 Czech_Bohemia
0.01195831 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.01336370 Slovak
0.01422097 Czech
0.01423986 Czech_Moravia
0.01612308 Slovenian
0.01695371 Hungarian
0.01732541 Polish_South
0.01765801 German_Lower_Silesia
0.01861494 Austrian_Carinthia
0.01883296 Polish_Upper_Silesia
0.01916600 Croat_Gorski_Kotar
0.02006856 Polish_Southeast_Carpathia
0.02023058 Croat
0.02077198 Ukrainian
0.02228610 German_Thuringia_East
0.02290266 Moldova_North
0.02445087 German_East
0.02457487 German_West_Prussia
0.02479457 Polish
0.02558161 German_Saxony
0.02564494 German_North_Bohemia
0.02639404 Ukrainian_Zhitomir


Target: admix36_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.4941% / 0.00494094 | R5P
31.6 Polish_Sudovia
28.6 Ukrainian_Carpathian_Rusyns
25.2 Austrian_Carinthia
9.0 Spanish_Canarias
5.6 Darginian

Target: Wend-Kruzek_gedm36_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.4919% / 0.00491938 | R5P
45.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
27.2 Polish_Podlasie_East_Mazovia
13.4 Austrian_Styria
7.8 Spanish_Canarias
5.8 Darginian

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Distance to: ludok36ngang25sim Allelocator
0.01018579 Ukrainian_Carpathian_Rusyns
0.01024192 Czech_Bohemia
0.01058909 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.01082356 Czech_Moravia
0.01130217 Slovak
0.01201631 Czech
0.01230664 German_Lower_Silesia
0.01314053 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.01397817 Polish_South
0.01415834 Slovenian
0.01470933 Polish_Upper_Silesia
0.01787873 Austrian_Carinthia
0.01814717 Polish_Southeast_Carpathia
0.02060298 Ukrainian
0.02064202 Croat_Gorski_Kotar
0.02078046 German_West_Prussia
0.02094902 Polish
0.02140476 German_Thuringia_East
0.02154811 German_East
0.02170755 Hungarian
0.02270034 Polish_Wielkopolska
0.02319608 Croat
0.02405033 German_North_Bohemia
0.02421048 German_Saxony
0.02491450 Ukrainian_Zhitomir



Target: ludok36ngang25sim
Distance: 0.3973% / 0.00397345 | R5P
40.2 Polish_Kashubian
27.8 Austrian_Carinthia
23.2 Polish_Podlasie_East_Mazovia
5.4 Sardinian
3.4 Armenian_Hemsheni

Distance to: ludok36ngang25sim
0.00483692 74.40% Austrian_Carinthia + 25.60% Lithuanian
0.00518276 68.00% Austrian_Carinthia + 32.00% Polish_Podlasie_East_Mazovia
0.00524623 71.00% Austrian_Carinthia + 29.00% German_East_Prussia_Memelland
0.00525947 21.60% Albanian_Kosovo + 78.40% Polish_Kashubian
0.00532582 45.80% Austrian_Tyrol + 54.20% Lithuanian
0.00534170 33.00% Italian_Veneto + 67.00% Polish_Podlasie_East_Mazovia
0.00545481 28.20% Italian_Veneto + 71.80% Polish_Mazovia
0.00548351 71.60% Croat_Gorski_Kotar + 28.40% Lithuanian
0.00550341 22.80% Albanian_Montenegro + 77.20% Polish_Kashubian
0.00551976 62.80% Austrian_Carinthia + 37.20% Polish_Mazovia
0.00555399 52.20% Croat + 47.80% Polish_Kashubian
0.00561800 31.40% Italian_North + 68.60% Polish_Podlasie_East_Mazovia
0.00568188 19.80% Albanian + 80.20% Polish_Kashubian
0.00572020 20.00% Albanian_North + 80.00% Polish_Kashubian
0.00579989 73.00% Austrian_Carinthia + 27.00% Polish_Sudovia
0.00580480 65.20% Polish_Kashubian + 34.80% Serb
0.00584048 21.40% Italian_Veneto + 78.60% Polish
0.00592096 66.80% Austrian_Carinthia + 33.20% Belarusian
0.00595028 68.00% Croat_Gorski_Kotar + 32.00% German_East_Prussia_Memelland
0.00597123 76.00% Austrian_Carinthia + 24.00% Latvian
0.00597168 64.60% Croat_Gorski_Kotar + 35.40% Polish_Podlasie_East_Mazovia
0.00603155 54.40% Austrian_Carinthia + 45.60% Polish
0.00604046 31.20% Italian_Aosta + 68.80% Polish_Podlasie_East_Mazovia
0.00605316 62.60% Austrian_Carinthia + 37.40% Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.00610311 69.80% Polish_Kashubian + 30.20% Romanian

[ScandinavianCelt]

ADC 0.5x

Target: Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4
Distance: 0.0111% / 0.01112495 | ADC: 0.5x RC
77.1 English_Southwest
22.9 French_Hauts-de-France

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0217% / 0.02168798 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.5 English_Southwest
30.8 Scottish_East
8.6 French_Hauts-de-France
5.1 Bedoiun

2-way:

52,326 models (58 ms):
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 72% Faroese + 28% Spanish_Cantabria
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 87% Scottish_East + 13% Spanish_Pirineu
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 81% Irish_Munster + 19% Italian_Aosta
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 87% Scottish_East + 13% Spanish_Cantabria
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 87% Scottish_East + 13% Spanish_Castello
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 88% Scottish_East + 12% Spanish_Andalusia
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 87% Scottish_East + 13% Spanish_Aragon
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 72% Faroese + 28% French_South
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 87% Scottish_East + 13% Spanish_Lleida
0.010 Gannicus_Global25_EurogenesK36_23&Mev4 = 86% Scottish + 14% Spanish_Pirineu

52,326 models (66 ms):
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 94% English_Southwest + 6% Palestinian
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 84% Scottish_East + 16% Spanish_Canarias
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 95% English_Southwest + 5% Bedoiun
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 95% English_Southwest + 5% Egyptian
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 82% Irish_Munster + 18% Spanish_Canarias
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 92% Irish_Munster + 8% Palestinian
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 95% English_Southwest + 5% Yemenite_Mahra
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 88% Irish_Munster + 12% Maltese
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 87% Irish_Munster + 13% Ashkenazi
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 69% Faroese + 31% Spanish_Andalusia


What's the link to create k36 simulated coordinates? I'll make some for my merged file.

https://allelocator.ovh/

[Cernunnos]

Target: Cernunnos_scaled
Distance: 1.4619% / 0.01461893 | R5P
45.4 French_Southwest
36.6 Spanish_Alacant
9.0 Mozabite
7.4 Latvian
1.6 Onge

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Eurafricanid-k35-scaled
Distance: 0.8003% / 0.00800333
43.1 Mende_Sierra_Leone
26.6 Spanish_Alacant
12.8 Basque_Spain
4.9 Maltese
3.3 Sardinian
3.2 Egyptian
1.8 Piapoco
1.0 Mari
0.8 Todzin
0.6 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.6 Mala
0.6 Pima
0.3 Quechua
0.2 Jarawa
0.1 Bedoiun
0.1 Ulchi



Target: Eurafricanid-k35-scaled
Distance: 0.9877% / 0.00987745 | R5P
46.3 Spanish_Alacant
42.7 Mende_Sierra_Leone
5.3 Egyptian
3.0 Tatar_Crimea
2.7 Karitiana


A bit fuzzy on the edges, but not bad.

I would have thought you'd show more South American Indian or something from the Americas more but if it's accurate okay

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_K36_sim
Distance: 0.6332% / 0.00633239 | R5P
43.2 Basque_Spain
30.4 Spanish_Canarias
14.2 Lithuanian
8.4 Sardinian
3.8 Yemenite_Mahra


Target: gixajo_dad_K36_sim
Distance: 0.5692% / 0.00569202 | R5P
66.8 French_South
10.8 Sardinian
9.2 Yemenite_Mahra
8.2 Polish_Sudovia
5.0 Mozabite


Target: gixajo_mom_K36_sim
Distance: 0.5638% / 0.00563771 | R5P
40.6 Spanish_Valencia
27.8 Basque_Spain
18.4 Spanish_Cantabria
10.0 Afrikaner
3.2 Lithuanian

Target: gixajo_enana_K36_sim
Distance: 0.4327% / 0.00432705 | R5P
55.8 Basque_Spain
24.2 Spanish_Valencia
11.6 Spanish_Canarias
5.6 Lithuanian
2.8 Sardinian

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Cernunnos_scaled
Distance: 1.4619% / 0.01461893 | R5P
45.4 French_Southwest
36.6 Spanish_Alacant
9.0 Mozabite
7.4 Latvian
1.6 Onge

Where do all the Mozabite genetics come from? I mean I think they come from Morocco but do you know where they're coming from before that?

[PT Tagus]

Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 1.4823% / 0.01482315 | R5P
75.2 Spanish_Andalusia
12.0 Scottish_Highlands
9.0 Yemenite_Mahra
3.8 Yoruba

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: gixajo_K36_sim
Distance: 0.6332% / 0.00633239 | R5P
43.2 Basque_Spain
30.4 Spanish_Canarias
14.2 Lithuanian
8.4 Sardinian
3.8 Yemenite_Mahra


Target: gixajo_dad_K36_sim
Distance: 0.5692% / 0.00569202 | R5P
66.8 French_South
10.8 Sardinian
9.2 Yemenite_Mahra
8.2 Polish_Sudovia
5.0 Mozabite


Target: gixajo_mom_K36_sim
Distance: 0.5638% / 0.00563771 | R5P
40.6 Spanish_Valencia
27.8 Basque_Spain
18.4 Spanish_Cantabria
10.0 Afrikaner
3.2 Lithuanian

Target: gixajo_enana_K36_sim
Distance: 0.4327% / 0.00432705 | R5P
55.8 Basque_Spain
24.2 Spanish_Valencia
11.6 Spanish_Canarias
5.6 Lithuanian
2.8 Sardinian

Maybe R5P doesn't work so well for you it seems like you're getting more Baltic than you should what do you think?

[Impaler]

Target: Father
Distance: 0.5971% / 0.00597129 | R5P
53.8 Romanian_Southwest
16.8 Tabasaran
15.8 Druze
11.4 Mala
2.2 Palestinian

[vader]

Target: Cynetes
Distance: 0.2850% / 0.00285033 | R5P
60.8 Portuguese
22.8 German_Hesse_South
9.6 Sardinian
3.8 Tatar_Volga
3.0 Somali_Kenya

Distance to: Cynetes
0.00944840 Portuguese_Azores
0.01226176 Portuguese
0.02005461 Spanish_Galicia
0.02179708 Spanish_Alacant
0.02325318 Spanish_Eivissa
0.02520068 Spanish
0.02522612 Spanish_Mallorca
0.02625147 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02628532 Spanish_Andalusia
0.02652476 Spanish_Valencia
0.02683347 Spanish_Canarias
0.02721782 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.02792126 Spanish_Girona
0.02814283 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.02938950 Spanish_Penedes
0.02947633 Spanish_Lleida
0.02960389 Spanish_Barcelones
0.03023728 Spanish_Pirineu
0.03038406 Spanish_Baleares
0.03067980 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03142290 Spanish_Castello
0.03302981 Swiss_Italian
0.03367514 French_Provence
0.03420643 Spanish_Aragon
0.03529328 Spanish_Cantabria

[Gannicus]

Ok results with simulated k36 with Merged file. This should emphasize the need to get real G25 coordinates:

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFileSimulatedK36_scaled
0.01845282 English_Southwest
0.01924331 Cornish
0.01960035 Scottish_East
0.01978923 English_Southeast
0.01987328 English_West-Midlands
0.01991586 French_Brittany
0.02002075 Scottish
0.02026239 British
0.02033305 English
0.02034291 English_East

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02523594 French_Brittany
0.02530856 French_Hauts-de-France
0.02552248 English_Southwest
0.02591814 French_Normandy
0.02598682 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
0.02607156 Cornish
0.02644417 English_Southeast
0.02658570 English_West-Midlands
0.02671699 English_East
0.02679760 Scottish_East

Target: Gannicus_MergedFileSimulatedK36_scaled
Distance: 0.0137% / 0.01368894 | ADC: 0.5x RC
91.8 English_Southwest
5.6 Turkish_Balikesir
2.6 Darginian

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0217% / 0.02168798 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.5 English_Southwest
30.8 Scottish_East
8.6 French_Hauts-de-France
5.1 Bedoiun

R5P with simulated yields consistent results:

Target: Gannicus_MergedFileSimulatedK36_scaled
Distance: 0.0117% / 0.01170846 | R5P
71.9 Irish_Munster
19.1 Spanish_Cantabria
6.7 Darginian
2.3 Mari


R5P results with several runs with actual G25 coordinates:

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0200% / 0.02001395 | R5P
79.6 Irish_Munster
12.6 Basque_Spain
4.0 Turkish_Balikesir
3.1 Egyptian
0.7 Uygur

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0200% / 0.02000476 | R5P
77.8 Irish_Munster
13.6 Basque_Spain
3.9 Turkish_Balikesir
2.7 Egyptian
2.0 Darginian


Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0204% / 0.02043542 | R5P
75.0 Irish_Munster
16.2 Basque_Spain
6.9 Turkish_Balikesir
1.9 Darginian

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0200% / 0.02004835 | R5P
78.0 Irish_Munster
13.5 Basque_Spain
4.4 Turkish_Balikesir
2.4 Yemenite_Mahra
1.7 Darginian



2 way:

Simulated
52,326 models (62 ms):
0.014 Gannicus_MergedFileSimulatedK36_scaled = 92% English_Southwest + 8% Turkish_Balikesir
0.014 Gannicus_MergedFileSimulatedK36_scaled = 92% Cornish + 8% Turkish_Balikesir
0.015 Gannicus_MergedFileSimulatedK36_scaled = 93% English_Southwest + 7% Turkish
0.015 Gannicus_MergedFileSimulatedK36_scaled = 93% English_Southwest + 7% Turkish_Aydin
0.015 Gannicus_MergedFileSimulatedK36_scaled = 93% English_Southwest + 7% Darginian
0.015 Gannicus_MergedFileSimulatedK36_scaled = 93% English_Southwest + 7% Turkish_Adana
0.015 Gannicus_MergedFileSimulatedK36_scaled = 93% English_Southwest + 7% Turkish_Kayseri
0.015 Gannicus_MergedFileSimulatedK36_scaled = 91% Irish_Leinster + 9% Turkish_Balikesir
0.015 Gannicus_MergedFileSimulatedK36_scaled = 93% English_Southwest + 7% Tabasaran
0.015 Gannicus_MergedFileSimulatedK36_scaled = 93% Cornish + 7% Turkish_Aydin


Actual:

0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 94% English_Southwest + 6% Palestinian
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 84% Scottish_East + 16% Spanish_Canarias
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 95% English_Southwest + 5% Bedoiun
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 95% English_Southwest + 5% Egyptian
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 82% Irish_Munster + 18% Spanish_Canarias
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 92% Irish_Munster + 8% Palestinian
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 95% English_Southwest + 5% Yemenite_Mahra
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 88% Irish_Munster + 12% Maltese
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 87% Irish_Munster + 13% Ashkenazi
0.022 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled = 69% Faroese + 31% Spanish_Andalusia

[R1b-L51]

I'm thinking to post an ancient calculator that I made today and it's sort of breaks up your ancient roots how much Eastern and Northern and dividing in the northwestern most Bill Baker with the Czech Republic provides really an interesting division maybe showing westernmost genetics versus Eastern as well as sometimes northernmost I think probably came through the Netherlands during the Bell Baker I don't know but it seems that the majority of the northern genetics will pick that up in largest amounts and then maybe more Central and Eastern and even maybe Eastern side of Germany which technically is Western but really I think has a lot of the Eastern influence over there especially maybe in certain bordering areas even in the South with Austria and Switzerland

C'MON!! I'm interested

[Pedro Ruben]

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.8844% / 0.01884409 | R5P
66.2 Spanish_Andalusia
17.0 Cornish
6.2 Mozabite
5.4 Somali_Kenya
5.2 Udmurt

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 1.9527% / 0.01952740 | R5P
79.2 Spanish_Galicia
9.6 Mozabite
6.0 Saami_Norway
2.8 Mende_Sierra_Leone
2.4 Sardinian

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 1.6545% / 0.01654516 | R5P
63.6 Spanish_Pirineu
19.6 Spanish_Canarias
12.0 English_Southwest
3.8 Masai
1.0 Somali_Kenya

[Pater Patota]

Target: PP_scaled
Distance: 0.3638% / 0.00363769 | R5P
31.8 Cypriot
28.2 Darginian
27.6 Turkish_Trabzon
9.6 Brahui
2.8 Hezhen

[nrinehi]

Distance to: nrinehi
0.00854873 Russian_Kaluga
0.00924969 Russian_Bryansk
0.00936128 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.00961972 Russian_Smolensk
0.01010050 Russian_Voronezh
0.01022288 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.01074664 Belarusian
0.01075785 Russian_Kursk
0.01161720 Russian_Belgorod
0.01256441 Ukrainian_Sumi
0.01277755 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.01326154 Russian_Pskov
0.01349049 Russian_Tambov
0.01445933 Ukrainian_Cossack
0.01448653 Ukrainian_Zhitomir
0.01477950 Russian_Don_Cossack
0.01513300 Russian_Tver
0.01619722 Russian_Orel
0.01643555 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.01653414 Polish_Mazovia
0.01685259 Russian_Ryazan
0.01726441 Russian_Novgorod_Pskov
0.01746492 Polish_Sudovia
0.01793904 Polish_Podlasie_East_Mazovia
0.01835148 Ukrainian

Target: nrinehi
Distance: 0.5582% / 0.00558235 | R5P
52.2 Russian_Pskov
21.0 Ukrainian_Cossack
14.2 Russian_Don_Cossack
6.8 Polish_Sudovia
5.8 Afrikaner

(I'm quarter Lithuanian and it's normal for me to test as Belarusian on calculators :D)

[Figaro]

Target: giordanomother
Distance: 1.1419% / 0.01141884 | R5P
37.4 German_East_Prussia_Central
30.6 Romanian_Central
26.6 Russian_Voronezh
3.0 Mozabite
2.4 Chuvash

Target: giordanofather
Distance: 1.3751% / 0.01375085 | R5P
50.0 Dutch_North
41.2 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
3.6 Tatar_Crimea
2.8 Bedoiun
2.4 Egyptian

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 1.4539% / 0.01453912
54.4 Basque_Spain
16.6 Spanish_Cantabria
5.6 Armenian_Hemsheni
4.6 Ukrainian_Cossack
4.4 Sardinian
4.0 Darginian
3.6 Chuvash
3.6 Mozabite
3.0 Somali_Kenya
0.2 Masai

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 1.8371% / 0.01837059
43.4 Spanish_Cantabria
18.8 Basque_Spain
13.6 Ukrainian_Cossack
8.8 Sardinian
6.0 Armenian_Hemsheni
5.4 Mozabite
2.2 Chuvash
1.0 Mende_Sierra_Leone
0.8 Ethiopian_Mursi

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 1.5723% / 0.01572286
45.2 Basque_Spain
18.0 Sardinian
13.6 Ukrainian_Cossack
6.8 Mozabite
6.4 Darginian
5.2 Spanish_Cantabria
1.8 Somali_Kenya
1.6 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.8 Chuvash
0.6 Masai

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
0.01171741 Scottish_Highlands
0.01188350 Scottish_Orkney
0.01195252 Scottish_East
0.01197011 English_Southeast
0.01223637 English_East
0.01226855 Scottish
0.01256763 Scottish_Southwest
0.01261458 British
0.01265166 Dutch
0.01266282 British_Ulster
0.01274076 English
0.01280247 English_West-Midlands
0.01283083 Irish
0.01289785 Dutch_Central
0.01293606 English_Northeast
0.01304712 English_Yorkshire
0.01306768 Irish_Connacht
0.01313416 Welsh
0.01318823 Irish_Leinster
0.01350241 English_East-Midlands
0.01351674 English_Southwest
0.01363513 Irish_Ulster
0.01380606 Irish_Munster
0.01392731 German_Westphalia
0.01407701 English_Lancashire

Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.2695% / 0.00269538
51.4 Irish_Ulster
12.0 Welsh
7.8 German_Frisian
7.8 German_Hither_Pomerania
6.0 Spanish_Cantabria
5.0 Darginian
4.2 German_Lower_Silesia
2.2 Finnish_Northeast
1.4 Mozabite
1.0 Faroese
0.6 Saami
0.2 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
0.2 Pashtun_Kurram
0.2 Yoruba

Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.3449% / 0.00344868 | R5P
54.8 Irish_Ulster
22.2 German_Frisian
10.8 Spanish_Canarias
6.6 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
5.6 Darginian

Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.3844% / 0.00384398 | R4P
78.2 Irish_Ulster
8.8 Spanish_Canarias
8.2 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
4.8 Tabasaran

Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.5225% / 0.00522536 | R3P
61.4 Irish_Ulster
35.2 Afrikaner
3.4 Darginian

[noricum]

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.0579% / 0.02057915 | R5P
40.8 Polish_Sudovia
34.4 German_Lower_Saxony_South
13.4 Sardinian
6.2 Albanian_North_Macedonia
5.2 Makrani

[ScandinavianCelt]

mixed mode, top 3


Distance to: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
0.01133649 5.40% Bahun + 94.60% Scottish_Highlands
0.01144680 88.00% Icelandic + 12.00% Turkish_Balikesir
0.01147289 7.60% Brahui + 92.40% German_Schleswig-Holstein

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: SC_K36_Superkit.Gedmatch
Distance: 0.0073% / 0.00726766 | R5P | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.3 Irish_Ulster
16.3 German_Lower_Silesia
8.2 Afrikaner
5.9 Saami_Norway
5.3 Brahui

[oszkar07]

Target: Oszk
Distance: 2.1369% / 0.02136867
50.2 Icelandic
24.2 Polish_Sudovia
11.8 Sardinian
6.8 Armenian_Hemsheni
3.6 Chuvash
2.6 Finnish_Northeast
0.8 Yemenite_Mahra