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gixajo
04-08-2025, 10:20 PM
For fun. :)

Promotopic oracle (https://promotopic.com/calculator/vahd.html)



Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East,43.75,10.36,29.83,1.63,10.35,1.59,0.51,0.31,0 .24,0.33,0.35,0.38,0.38
Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West,39.02,11.12,26.12,2.4,13.1,3.98,0.65,0.25,0.1 3,0.37,0.26,1.56,1.05
Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South,17.81 ,12.75,21.29,13.77,28.33,4.15,0.13,0.35,0.3,0.3,0. 43,0.28,0.11
Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula,22.04,17.52 ,21.8,11.02,23.57,2.54,0.18,0.32,0.28,0.27,0.33,0. 06,0.03
Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish,51.85,23.64,12.59,6.43,1.9,0.49,1.18,0.17 ,0.34,0.78,0.31,0.16,0.15
Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian,48.02,31.54,9.76, 4.64,1.62,0.54,0.91,0.33,1.08,0.62,0.48,0.25,0.19
Northeastern_Europe:Slav,28.71,43.68,10.84,6.0,6.0 6,0.93,1.03,0.33,1.04,0.62,0.36,0.21,0.17
Northeastern_Europe:Baltics,28.86,54.59,7.17,3.38, 1.22,0.4,1.16,0.17,1.28,0.89,0.43,0.21,0.25

For Americans:


West_Africa,0.16,0.1,0.25,0.12,0.38,1.24,0.1,0.12, 0.12,0.08,0.16,5.07,92.09
Amerindian,1.2,0.86,3.0,0.17,0.22,0.16,0.41,1.04,3 .86,87.72,0.24,0.17,0.96

For T´Kes.:D


Caucasus,3.26,3.18,11.58,45.5,28.32,4.22,2.6,0.54, 0.2,0.24,0.28,0.04,0.04
Ciscaucasia,6.45,11.66,8.15,47.12,15.42,1.37,2.17, 2.23,4.23,0.75,0.31,0.06,0.08
Central_Asia,7.89,7.01,3.58,34.26,18.47,2.73,12.06 ,4.59,7.35,1.3,0.3,0.22,0.24
Anatolia,7.12,4.32,12.01,30.83,28.97,5.46,4.05,2.4 1,3.63,0.28,0.56,0.34,0.01

gixajo
04-08-2025, 10:23 PM
I always get bad distances with K13.

Target: gixajo
Distance: 5.3184% / 5.31844876
95.8 Southwestern_European
4.2 Northeastern_Europe

Distance to: gixajo
5.37442431 95.80% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 4.20% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
5.38161158 94.60% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 5.40% Northeastern_Europe:Slav
5.52465487 74.20% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 25.80% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West
5.70169143 96.00% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 4.00% Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
5.73907177 96.40% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 3.60% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula
5.78167864 97.80% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 2.20% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South
5.78943880 97.20% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 2.80% Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
7.52043204 93.40% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West + 6.60% Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
7.63926800 96.60% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West + 3.40% Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
18.61706927 43.60% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula + 56.40% Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish


With extras:

Target: gixajo
Distance: 5.2743% / 5.27426221
96.3 Southwestern_European
3.4 Northeastern_Europe
0.2 Amerindian
0.1 West_Africa

cass
04-08-2025, 10:27 PM
Quite reasonable, considering that part of the inhumation population of the Przeworsk culture remained in Poland.

Distance to: cass
3.09862475 22.60% Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish + 77.40% Northeastern_Europe:Slav
3.79225344 28.60% Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian + 71.40% Northeastern_Europe:Slav
3.98684460 33.00% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 67.00% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
4.27611843 34.60% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West + 65.40% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
4.28568543 15.20% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 84.80% Northeastern_Europe:Slav
5.08428867 15.00% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West + 85.00% Northeastern_Europe:Slav
7.33312719 6.60% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula + 93.40% Northeastern_Europe:Slav
7.50634960 3.80% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South + 96.20% Northeastern_Europe:Slav
7.59032822 41.40% Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish + 58.60% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
8.82734659 51.60% Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian + 48.40% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
9.29314091 32.40% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula + 67.60% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
10.40511577 26.80% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South + 73.20% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
14.17652823 24.20% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula + 75.80% Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
14.66031576 18.60% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South + 81.40% Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
16.95808741 6.40% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West + 93.60% Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
20.41015906 33.20% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula + 66.80% Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
21.43181019 24.20% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South + 75.80% Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
23.96129238 11.40% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West + 88.60% Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
30.90198414 39.60% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 60.40% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula
30.92867212 49.60% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West + 50.40% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula
32.77134935 85.00% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West + 15.00% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South
33.61537792 66.80% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 33.20% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South

ScandinavianCelt
04-08-2025, 11:57 PM
Target: SC_K13_Raw_Superkit_Gedmatch
Distance: 339.0122% / 3.39012215
47.0 Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
41.8 Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
8.4 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South
1.4 Anatolia
0.8 Central_Asia
0.4 Amerindian
0.2 West_Africa

Target: SC_K13_Raw_Superkit_Gedmatch
Distance: 348.9094% / 3.48909412 | ADC: 0.5x RC
47.0 Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
41.4 Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
11.6 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South

Target: SC_K13_Raw_Superkit_Gedmatch
Distance: 635.9172% / 6.35917234 | ADC: 2x RC
53.2 Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
46.8 Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian


My top Mixed-Mode:

Distance to: SC_K13_Raw_Superkit_Gedmatch
5.08904175 81.20% Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish + 18.80% Northeastern_Europe:Slav


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If I add my two known Swedish backgrounds, Norrland and Gotland:

Target: SC_K13_Superkit_Gedmatch
Distance: 6.7457% / 6.74569613 | ADC: 2x RC
57.1 Swedish_Götaland
42.9 Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish

Target: SC_K13_Superkit_Gedmatch
Distance: 2.7404% / 2.74044871
73.4 Swedish_Götaland
13.4 Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
9.9 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South
1.8 Central_Asia
0.7 Anatolia
0.6 Amerindian
0.2 West_Africa

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If I do just Swedish & French, I get the two places my male bloodlines are from:

Target: SC_K13_Superkit_Gedmatch
Distance: 4.6593% / 4.65933724 | ADC: 2x RC
54.2 Swedish_Götaland
45.8 French_Normandy

Gannicus
04-09-2025, 12:48 AM
Target: Gannicus_EurogenesK13_MergedFile
Distance: 3.3456% / 3.34555103
82.0 Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
18.0 Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West

Tacitus
04-09-2025, 01:44 AM
Target: Tacitus
Distance: 7.2788% / 7.27878476
95.2 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South
4.8 Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East

Fistora
04-09-2025, 02:09 AM
Distance to: Fistora
3.55160914 35.00% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West + 65.00% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
3.55575291 15.20% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 84.80% Northeastern_Europe:Slav
3.90039509 33.00% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 67.00% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
4.24140395 15.40% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West + 84.60% Northeastern_Europe:Slav
5.01332588 17.00% Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish + 83.00% Northeastern_Europe:Slav
5.55689590 20.00% Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian + 80.00% Northeastern_Europe:Slav
6.54223799 9.20% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula + 90.80% Northeastern_Europe:Slav
6.82290667 6.00% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South + 94.00% Northeastern_Europe:Slav
8.00227605 34.00% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula + 66.00% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
9.27381229 28.20% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South + 71.80% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics

Rædwald
04-09-2025, 02:32 AM
How do I get g25 from K13?

Grace O'Malley
04-09-2025, 02:36 AM
Target: Grace
Distance: 315.4985% / 3.15498467
78.2 Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
21.4 Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
0.2 Amerindian
0.2 Ciscaucasia

Athalafuns
04-09-2025, 09:16 AM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 3.0848% / 3.08476344
92.4 Southwestern_European
6.8 Northwestern_Europe
0.8 Southeastern_European

Distance to: RNB27
3.49523983 28.20% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 71.80% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West
3.50044975 92.00% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West + 8.00% Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
3.90302532 96.40% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West + 3.60% Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
4.62769598 88.00% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 12.00% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South
4.74143488 86.00% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 14.00% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula

gixajo
04-09-2025, 09:34 AM
How do I get g25 from K13?

You don´t need G25 for this model, this model is for K13 coordinates.

You can do K13 coordinates using your Gedmatch Eurogenes K13 results using this tool (https://www.allelocator.ovh/horizontaltovertical.html).

(You could do it yourself too if you are not too lazy, it´s just to put the difefrent % of every component in the proper order)

Anyway, answering your question, you can get a G25 sim from K13 here: allelocator (https://www.allelocator.ovh/simulatedg25.html).

Scandal
04-09-2025, 10:49 AM
Target: Scandal
Distance: 493.7844% / 4.93784425 | R3P
62.6 Northeastern_Europe
26.2 Southeastern_European
11.2 Southwestern_European

Target: Scandal
Distance: 4.8945% / 4.89454278 | R5P
59.8 Northeastern_Europe
28.3 Southeastern_European
6.6 Southwestern_European
5.3 Northwestern_Europe

Distance to: Scandal
8.70693402 Northeastern_Europe:Slav
19.78277534 Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
24.00452249 Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
28.32973173 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula
30.44871097 Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
33.70364372 Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West
35.68718958 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South
37.78967319 Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East

tk'es
04-09-2025, 02:07 PM
Target: tk'es
Distance: 7.1811% / 7.18108428
90.4 Ciscaucasia
9.6 Northwestern_Europe

RyoHazuki
04-09-2025, 02:34 PM
Target: Ryo
Distance: 464.1864% / 4.64186390
83.6 Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
16.4 Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West

Wend-Kruzek
04-09-2025, 03:53 PM
Target: Kruzekeuk13gedm:
Distance: 217.7258% / 2.17725799
45.2 Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
25.6 Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
20.0 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula
9.2 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South


Target: kruzekADMXeuk13:
Distance: 196.1693% / 1.96169270
36.6 Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
24.8 Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
22.0 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula
11.8 Northeastern_Europe:Slav
4.8 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South

Target: kruzekADMXeuk13:
Distance: 206.6502% / 2.06650172 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.2 Northeastern_Europe:Slav
19.6 Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
15.2 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula

Target: Kruzekeuk13gedm:
Distance: 240.5841% / 2.40584102 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.8 Northeastern_Europe:Slav
18.8 Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
15.4 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula

and


Target: kruzekADMXeuk13:
Distance: 190.7914% / 1.90791421
44.4 Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
28.6 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula
25.8 Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
1.2 Caucasus

Vitez
04-09-2025, 08:10 PM
Target: Vitez
Distance: 1.7580% / 1.75802134
61.7 Northeastern_Europe
24.2 Southeastern_European
10.4 Southwestern_European
3.7 Northwestern_Europe

Dušan
04-09-2025, 08:15 PM
Target: DušanK13
Distance: 4.4667% / 4.46673776
58.1 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula
41.9 Northeastern_Europe:Baltics

Dušan
04-09-2025, 08:16 PM
Distance to: Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
1.75390992 Lithuanian_Žemaitija
2.10767645 Lithuanian_Aukštaitija
3.15939868 Russian_Pskov
5.12406089 Latvian
6.28701042 Estonian

Distance to: Northeastern_Europe:Slav
1.80698644 Polish_Silesia
1.88077112 Polish_Subcarpathia
2.63954542 Polish_Lesser_Poland
2.75731754 Polish_South
2.84142570 Polish_Mazovia

Distance to: Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
1.63612347 Swedish
2.04073516 Swedish_West-Svealand
3.21400062 Swedish_East-Svealand
3.41016129 Swedish_Götaland
3.86152819 Norwegian_Southcentral

Distance to: Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
0.77272246 Scottish
1.12200713 Irish
1.92026040 Welsh
2.44973468 English_North
3.24861509 English_Southwest

Distance to: Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula
0.50576674 Albanian
1.15503247 Torbesh
3.25129205 Aromanian
4.02976426 Greek_North
4.60090209 North_Macedonian

Distance to: Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South
1.86252517 Greek_South-Central_Mainland
2.66576443 Greek_West_Anatolia
5.63047955 Italian_South
6.21088561 Turkish_Crete
6.53603856 Greek_North

Distance to: Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West
1.43666280 Portuguese
2.96084447 Spanish_Central_&_South
3.12097741 Spanish_North
5.68367839 French_South
8.55755222 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Distance to: Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East
4.18574963 Spanish_North
5.74799095 French_South
6.09799967 Spanish_Central_&_South
8.19296039 French_Aquitaine
8.28212533 Portuguese

leachim_x
04-09-2025, 08:40 PM
Target: Lx_K13
Distance: 191.4477% / 1.91447718
55.6 Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish
16.0 Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
12.6 Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West
11.0 Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
4.8 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South

Fabricius
04-10-2025, 03:31 AM
Target: Fabricius_K13
Distance: 798.3360% / 7.98336035
66.0 Southwestern_European
18.0 Southeastern_European
16.0 Northeastern_Europe

Target: Fabricius_K13
Distance: 173.3840% / 1.73384008
59.4 Southwestern_European
18.8 Southeastern_European
13.0 Northeastern_Europe
7.6 West_Africa
1.2 Amerindian



Without SE Europe
Without Amerindian

Target: Fabricius_K13
Distance: 360.0369% / 3.60036918
70.6 Southwestern_European
21.4 Northeastern_Europe
8.0 West_Africa

Beowulf
04-10-2025, 01:31 PM
Target: Beowulf
Distance: 1.6977% / 1.69771543
71.1 Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West
22.2 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula
3.6 Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East
3.1 Northeastern_Europe:Baltics

PT Tagus
04-10-2025, 11:57 PM
Target: Endovelicus
Distance: 6.4174% / 6.41737543
71.2 Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West
19.9 Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East
6.1 Anatolia
2.7 West_Africa
0.1 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South

noricum
04-12-2025, 03:02 PM
Target: K13Noricum(austrian)
Distance: 3.4302% / 3.43023355
35.0 Northeastern_Europe
28.2 Northwestern_Europe
26.8 Southeastern_European
10.0 Southwestern_European

nrinehi
04-13-2025, 06:58 PM
Target: nrinehi
Distance: 2.5542% / 2.55421535
66.0 Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
29.7 Northeastern_Europe:Slav
4.3 Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula

Distance to: nrinehi
2.57065655 45.20% Northeastern_Europe:Slav + 54.80% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
2.66664599 12.20% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula + 87.80% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
2.88822317 10.40% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South + 89.60% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
3.41468369 10.60% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_South&West + 89.40% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
3.67717269 9.80% Southwestern_European:Iberian_Peninsula_North&East + 90.20% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
5.05188425 9.80% Northwestern_Europe:Irish&Scottish + 90.20% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
5.32014238 11.40% Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian + 88.60% Northeastern_Europe:Baltics
26.18929069 18.80% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula + 81.20% Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian
26.49207432 13.40% Southeastern_European:Balkan_Peninsula_South + 86.60% Northwestern_Europe:Scandinavian