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gixajo
04-11-2025, 11:32 AM
After Cernunnos thread about his genetic shift.

For fun.:)


Pirineos&Vizcaya:(Basque_Biscay+Spanish_Biscay)+(Aragon_Nor th+Pirineu),0.124098,0.148349,0.049352,0.006376,0. 050314,0.001622,-0.001408,0.001531,0.025976,0.037458,-0.005208,0.011532,-0.019086,-0.015855,0.012726,0.001811,-0.004818,0.00185,-0.002172,-0.001882,0.006434,0.00071,-0.00568,-0.005184,0.001692
Cordillera_Cantábrica:Galicia+Asturias+Cantabria), 0.111787,0.145582,0.043452,-0.000053,0.046617,-0.003735,-0.004362,0.003867,0.025245,0.031317,-0.003512,0.007411,-0.015841,-0.01183,0.011893,-0.003911,-0.007433,-0.000763,-0.004659,-0.001669,0.003692,-0.003563,-0.002317,-0.002151,0.00239
Sur:Extremadura+Andalucía,0.106614,0.148018,0.0343 84,-0.002309,0.043094,-0.004323,-0.002962,0.00083,0.024697,0.031192,-0.001726,0.006159,-0.011906,-0.011828,0.008899,0.000055,-0.004262,-0.002197,-0.005336,-0.000858,0.002525,-0.003021,-0.001726,-0.004052,0.001661


For Iberoamericans:


Amerindian,0.054749,-0.283333,0.112269,0.089568,-0.098757,-0.017822,-0.27146,-0.324194,-0.012026,-0.013486,-0.004693,-0.003836,-0.001323,0.019047,-0.006066,0.004972,0.006415,-0.000013,0.00098,-0.000288,-0.002009,0.007876,-0.000136,0.000518,-0.001736
West_African,-0.61904,0.063922,0.019882,0.014392,0.000582,0.0100 32,-0.034722,0.039588,-0.038002,0.02974,0.00461,-0.001324,0.018669,0.000742,0.010812,-0.008548,0.009598,0.001957,0.00057,-0.00032,-0.000928,-0.002638,-0.000996,0.00007,-0.000479

gixajo
04-11-2025, 11:36 AM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6692% / 0.01669249
59.4 Pirineos&Vizcaya
40.6 Sur

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.0393% / 0.02039275
89.0 Sur
11.0 Pirineos&Vizcaya

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.0685% / 0.02068477
57.0 Pirineos&Vizcaya
43.0 Cordillera_Cantábrica

Pedro Ruben
04-11-2025, 12:11 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 3.2341% / 0.03234113
91.0 Sur
9.0 Cordillera_Cantábrica

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 3.6582% / 0.03658222
100.0 Sur

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 2.5522% / 0.02552245
53.6 Cordillera_Cantábrica
46.4 Sur

Athalafuns
04-11-2025, 12:19 PM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 2.2080% / 0.02207992
69.4 Sur
24.8 Pirineos&Vizcaya
5.8 Cordillera_Cantábrica

CeltiberoGermanico
04-11-2025, 12:22 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6692% / 0.01669249
59.4 Pirineos&Vizcaya
40.6 Sur

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.0393% / 0.02039275
89.0 Sur
11.0 Pirineos&Vizcaya

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.0685% / 0.02068477
57.0 Pirineos&Vizcaya
43.0 Cordillera_Cantábrica

Me infla demasiado lo Euskaldun .Siempre me pasa .Suelo ser un 50/50 generalmente

Target: Yo_scaled
Distance: 1.7748% / 0.01774757 | ADC: 0.25x RC
84.8 Pirineos&Vizcaya
15.2 Sur

R1b-L51
04-11-2025, 12:34 PM
CABALLERO PARDO A FUERO DE LEÓN

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 2.0661% / 0.02066146
79.6 Sur
20.4 Cordillera_Cantábrica

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 2.0661% / 0.02066146 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.6 Sur
20.4 Cordillera_Cantábrica


Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.02087219 Sur:Extremadura+Andalucía
0.02363843 Cordillera_Cantábrica:Galicia+Asturias+Cantabria)
0.03961801 Pirineos&Vizcaya:(Basque_Biscay+Spanish_Biscay)+(Aragon_Nor th+Pirineu)

Cernunnos
04-11-2025, 12:45 PM
Target: Cernunnos_scaled
Distance: 1.8846% / 0.01884603
57.6 Sur
22.2 Cordillera_Cantábrica
20.2 Pirineos&Vizcaya


Distance to: Cernunnos_scaled
0.02036474 Cordillera_Cantábrica:Galicia+Asturias+Cantabria)
0.02082769 Sur:Extremadura+Andalucía
0.02903615 Pirineos&Vizcaya:(Basque_Biscay+Spanish_Biscay)+(Aragon_Nor th+Pirineu)

Target: Portuguese
Distance: 0.8700% / 0.00870047
86.8 Sur
13.2 Cordillera_Cantábrica

Distance to: Portuguese
0.00890801 Sur:Extremadura+Andalucía
0.01525500 Cordillera_Cantábrica:Galicia+Asturias+Cantabria)
0.03229360 Pirineos&Vizcaya:(Basque_Biscay+Spanish_Biscay)+(Aragon_Nor th+Pirineu)

Solitude
04-11-2025, 12:48 PM
Target: K15isolated
Distance: 1.7075% / 0.01707462
57.4 Pirineos&Vizcaya
22.6 Cordillera_Cantábrica
20.0 Sur

gixajo
04-11-2025, 12:50 PM
Me infla demasiado lo Euskaldun .Siempre me pasa .Suelo ser un 50/50 generalmente

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No me parece mal resultado, esa referencia no es solo vasca, (Spanish Biscay+Basque Biscay)+(Aragon North+Pirineu), pero acaba pareciéndose muchísimo a una referencia vasca.

Cernunnos
04-11-2025, 12:56 PM
No me parece mal resultado, esa referencia no es solo vasca, (Spanish Biscay+Basque Biscay)+(Aragon North+Pirineu), pero acaba pareciéndose muchísimo a una referencia vasca.

O que achaste dos meus resultados Gixajo?

gixajo
04-11-2025, 01:09 PM
O que achaste dos meus resultados Gixajo?

Se ve lo mismo que tu mostraste en tu thread. Parece que tus coordenadas muestran una tendencia hacia lo vasco-pirenaico que no suele ser habitual en portugueses.

Tal vez tengas alguna ascendencia vasca, pero también podría ser una ascendencia de otras zonas que no son vascas pero que tienen cierta similitud con los vascos.

No me atrevería a ir más lejos que eso, tal vez mirando los matches de la compañía comercial con la que te hiciste el análisis de adn puedas precisar más de dónde pueda venir esa tendencia.

gixajo
04-11-2025, 01:13 PM
Target: K15isolated
Distance: 1.7075% / 0.01707462
57.4 Pirineos&Vizcaya
22.6 Cordillera_Cantábrica
20.0 Sur

Those are the results of your coordinates subtracting the SSA and Amerindian? These would be the results of a rather northern Spanish.

Cernunnos
04-11-2025, 01:14 PM
Se ve lo mismo que tu mostraste en tu thread. Parece que tus coordenadas muestran una tendencia hacia lo vasco-pirenaico que no suele ser habitual en portugueses.

Tal vez tengas alguna ascendencia vasca, pero también podría ser una ascendencia de otras zonas que no son vascas pero que tienen cierta similitud con los vascos.

No me atrevería a ir más lejos que eso, tal vez mirando los matches de la compañía comercial con la que te hiciste el análisis de adn puedas precisar más de dónde pueda venir esa tendencia.

Fiz pelo My Heritage, mas também já fiz 23andme e deu isto:

Target: Cernunnos23andme_scaled
Distance: 1.9985% / 0.01998488
53.8 Sur
24.2 Cordillera_Cantábrica
22.0 Pirineos&Vizcaya

Distance to: Cernunnos23andme_scaled
0.02128704 Cordillera_Cantábrica:Galicia+Asturias+Cantabria)
0.02219963 Sur:Extremadura+Andalucía
0.02923515 Pirineos&Vizcaya:(Basque_Biscay+Spanish_Biscay)+(Aragon_Nor th+Pirineu)

gixajo
04-11-2025, 01:48 PM
Fiz pelo My Heritage, mas também já fiz 23andme e deu isto:

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Está bastante claro ya, pero para que veas que esa misma tendencia también te hará puntuar en Sur de Francia.

And this one?:


French_South:Bearn+Bigorre+Chalosse+Occitanie+Prov ence,0.126455,0.145574,0.048856,0.009107,0.048072, 0.002086,0.000028,0.001615,0.02118,0.03342,-0.004763,0.008037,-0.018309,-0.012924,0.010177,0.002182,-0.003737,0.001704,0.000002,-0.001336,0.004408,0.001574,-0.004181,-0.003681,-0.000224
Portugal_Roman&LateRoman:Portugal_Conimbriga_Roman,0.113254,0.146 236,0.050911,0.007752,0.048624,0.001952,0.00423,0. 001616,0.03303,0.03098,-0.002598,0.008242,-0.019623,-0.010872,0.014658,0.005436,0.001499,0.004244,0.002 514,0.003064,0.006426,0.001422,-0.003636,-0.009158,0.002514
Portugal_Roman&LateRoman:Miroico+MonteDaNora,0.090774,0.143698,0. 02951,-0.015962,0.039058,-0.007437,-0.007834,0.000885,0.029741,0.030798,-0.002869,0.004808,-0.006938,-0.012386,0.009682,-0.001248,-0.001576,-0.003948,-0.009114,0.000928,0.000478,-0.003885,0.002618,-0.004318,0.000399


Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6198% / 0.01619804
72.4 French_South
27.6 Portugal_Roman&LateRoman

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.1407% / 0.02140717
51.0 Portugal_Roman&LateRoman
49.0 French_South

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.2851% / 0.02285071
89.0 French_South
11.0 Portugal_Roman&LateRoman

Solitude
04-11-2025, 02:01 PM
Those are the results of your coordinates subtracting the SSA and Amerindian? These would be the results of a rather northern Spanish.

yes , without ssa and amerindian

EasternLusitanian
04-11-2025, 02:18 PM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0224% / 0.02244721
100.0 Sur


Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 0.0236% / 0.02363161
57.5 Sur
42.5 Cordillera_Cantábrica

Tanto mi madre como yo somos (casi) 100% andaluces. En MyHeritage yo tambien tengo como región el país vasco, lo que es raro

R1b-L51
04-11-2025, 02:24 PM
Se ve lo mismo que tu mostraste en tu thread. Parece que tus coordenadas muestran una tendencia hacia lo vasco-pirenaico que no suele ser habitual en portugueses.

Tal vez tengas alguna ascendencia vasca, pero también podría ser una ascendencia de otras zonas que no son vascas pero que tienen cierta similitud con los vascos.

No me atrevería a ir más lejos que eso, tal vez mirando los matches de la compañía comercial con la que te hiciste el análisis de adn puedas precisar más de dónde pueda venir esa tendencia.

Acaso no somos todos ibéricos? los vascos tienen la composiciçon original de los WHG ibéricos (que eran I2a o C) , mezclados con los primeros anatolia (pred. atlantomed de haplogrupo R). Luego ya llegaron bell baker, pero la masa ya estaba en el horno, y supuestamente los vascos son los menos efectados por Bellbaker a excepción de Biscaia.

EL PROBLEMA ES QUE TÚ HAS METIDO BISCAIA!! Y ESO ES BELL BAKER

In short, you have made the Basque sample less Basque and more Celtic, to such an extent that the Cantabrian seems more Basque than the Basque itself.

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.02087219 Sur:Extremadura+Andalucía
0.02363843 Cordillera_Cantábrica:Galicia+Asturias+Cantabria)
0.03394607 NEO653
0.03961801 Pirineos&Vizcaya:(Basque_Biscay+Spanish_Biscay)+(Aragon_Nor th+Pirineu)

RyoHazuki
04-11-2025, 03:04 PM
Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 6.8272% / 0.06827213
58.6 Pirineos&Vizcaya
41.4 Cordillera_Cantábrica

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 5.4761% / 0.05476123
100.0 Pirineos&Vizcaya

vader
04-11-2025, 07:55 PM
Target: Cynetes_scaled
Distance: 1.8092% / 0.01809180
98.2 Sur
1.8 Cordillera_Cantábrica

Distance to: Cynetes_scaled
0.01809355 Sur:Extremadura+Andalucía
0.02299292 Cordillera_Cantábrica:Galicia+Asturias+Cantabria)
0.03674083 Pirineos&Vizcaya:(Basque_Biscay+Spanish_Biscay)+(Aragon_Nor th+Pirineu)

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 2.1826% / 0.02182596
52.8 Amerindian
43.6 Sur
3.6 West_African

PT Tagus
04-11-2025, 10:18 PM
Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 2.8687% / 0.02868726
100.0 Sur


Distance to: Endovelicus_scaled
0.02868726 Sur:Extremadura+Andalucía
0.03559443 Cordillera_Cantábrica:Galicia+Asturias+Cantabria)
0.05156533 Pirineos&Vizcaya:(Basque_Biscay+Spanish_Biscay)+(Aragon_Nor th+Pirineu)


Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 2.3869% / 0.02386881
85.2 Portugal_Roman&LateRoman:Miroico+MonteDaNora
14.8 French_South:Bearn+Bigorre+Chalosse+Occitanie+Prov ence


Distance to: Endovelicus_scaled
0.02520794 Portugal_Roman&LateRoman:Miroico+MonteDaNora
0.04933782 Portugal_Roman&LateRoman:Portugal_Conimbriga_Roman
0.05214290 French_South:Bearn+Bigorre+Chalosse+Occitanie+Prov ence