Spain and Portugal Visigothic calculator (G25 Scaled)

[gixajo]

Just adding new Visigothic samples to the already known ones.

Promotopic Oracle (https://promotopic.com/calculator/vahd.html)



Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022026__AD_725__Cov_73.73%,0.12 7482,0.165531,0.029793,-0.044574,0.070475,-0.017012,-0.003525,0.002538,0.043359,0.068885,0.002436,0.012 589,-0.022745,-0.00289,-0.015201,0.001326,0.011213,-0.002407,0.006285,-0.010005,-0.005989,0.013231,-0.006162,-0.009158,0.000718
Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022028__AD_720__Cov_67.44%,0.07 1709,0.148267,0.032055,-0.00969,0.040007,-0.010877,-0.00846,0.002077,0.033542,0.03262,-0.002273,0.002997,-0.001933,-0.015689,0.007057,-0.001458,0.001173,-0.007601,-0.014958,0,-0.000998,-0.006554,0.00949,-0.002169,-0.000599
Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022031__AD_657__Cov_16.26%,0.10 6994,0.12491,0.024136,-0.014858,0.032621,-0.007251,-0.013396,0.001385,0.01268,0.022051,0.007307,0.0086 92,-0.002379,-0.014038,0.010043,0.008088,0.004824,0.004941,-0.001006,-0.006503,0.011979,-0.012118,0.00037,0.008555,0.003952
Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36%,0.10 4717,0.137096,0.036958,-0.00969,0.037238,0.007251,-0.00047,0.000692,0.026997,0.029522,-0.006171,0.004946,-0.01115,-0.010322,0.012758,-0.008221,-0.025555,0.0019,0.006536,-0.002376,0.005366,-0.000989,-0.005793,-0.004699,0.003233
Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022052__AD_718__Cov_15.24%,0.08 992,0.13405,0.032809,-0.018088,0.027082,-0.008367,-0.020446,0.009923,0.02168,0.010023,0.00341,0.00314 7,-0.012487,-0.017065,0.019815,-0.020286,-0.014473,-0.007728,-0.005154,0.0005,-0.00025,-0.004328,0.004807,-0.004458,-0.007185
Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022053__AD_624__Cov_26.74%,0.11 0408,0.121864,0.046386,0.014535,0.029852,0.010319, 0.00611,0.005077,0.009817,0.012392,-0.003897,-0.008393,-0.014866,-0.011147,0.004343,0.007027,0.010952,0.00076,0.0027 65,0.006378,-0.000125,0.005688,0.0053,0.002048,0.003473
Spain_Menorca_Visigoth-LateRoman_MigrationPeriod:CGG022041__AD_283__Cov_2 8.23%,0.104717,0.14319,0.023381,-0.015181,0.032621,-0.01506,-0.00423,-0.005077,0.016771,0.023691,0.000325,0.001798,-0.018137,-0.010459,0.011672,0.000133,0.015385,-0.004054,-0.001383,0.003252,-0.001747,-0.014838,0.008381,-0.003133,0.002395
Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018558 __AD_797__Cov_80.49%,0.087644,0.142174,0.031678,-0.001292,0.04924,-0.005857,-0.004935,-0.001615,0.030883,0.027518,-0.000812,0.002997,-0.009217,-0.015414,0.009772,0.007292,0.009909,-0.008108,-0.012821,0.003001,-0.003743,-0.003462,0.000863,-0.003494,-0.005748
Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62%,0.08992,0.144205,0.027153,-0.011628,0.0397,-0.003904,-0.00846,0.001154,0.026997,0.041185,-0.009256,0.006594,-0.009514,-0.008533,0.008686,-0.000265,-0.015255,-0.006208,-0.004525,-0.003627,0.002371,-0.007666,-0.000246,0.002651,0.000479
Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3775,0.126344,0.129988,0 .057322,0.007752,0.051086,-0.004741,0.003525,-0.010384,0.016362,0.040274,-0.01153,-0.007194,-0.01442,-0.003853,0.001086,0.003845,0.004042,0.002914,-0.00088,-0.00075,0.008859,0.01051,-0.000123,0.00723,0.010538
Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777,0.121791,0.146236,0 .049026,0.017765,0.042162,-0.001116,0.00188,0.005769,0.021475,0.022233,-0.007307,0.010191,-0.006244,-0.008395,0.011265,0.006099,0.006519,0.003294,0.005 028,-0.000375,-0.00025,-0.012613,0.000493,0.004699,-0.002994
Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3575,0.061464,0.135065,0.0 15462,-0.036499,0.037853,0.000837,-0.011281,-0.003692,0.031088,0.036083,-0.00065,0.005995,0.009514,-0.011423,0.002443,-0.01538,-0.01356,0.00228,-0.028911,-0.013882,-0.008859,-0.010634,0.006286,-0.00494,0.004071
Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3576,0.078538,0.146236,0.0 21119,-0.034238,0.033237,-0.015897,-0.001645,0.008077,0.037837,0.034625,-0.005359,0.002548,-0.007433,-0.001651,0.012351,-0.008751,-0.001825,0,-0.01169,0.001251,0.005366,-0.017188,0.007025,-0.012652,-0.003353
Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3578,0.076261,0.152329,0.0 13199,-0.034561,0.040007,-0.015897,-0.011751,-0.001385,0.027611,0.033349,-0.001624,0.005095,-0.009217,-0.006606,0.026465,-0.001061,-0.017732,0.004941,-0.021871,-0.003877,-0.002371,-0.015457,0.010599,-0.00964,0.004431
Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3579,0.092197,0.155376,0.0 09051,-0.010336,0.03139,-0.019243,0.00282,-0.000231,0.015339,0.038087,-0.001624,0.016635,-0.004162,-0.007982,-0.00285,-0.015911,-0.014994,-0.003041,-0.006034,-0.01063,0.010107,0.004575,-0.002095,0.003012,-0.022154
Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3581,0.085367,0.152329,0.0 22627,-0.031331,0.035083,-0.011992,-0.003055,0.003923,0.035383,0.035718,-0.003085,0.004796,-0.010852,-0.004129,0.010722,-0.000928,0.011213,-0.000887,-0.018603,0.003252,0.00574,-0.014096,0.009983,0,-0.002515
Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582,0.076261,0.14319,0.02 0742,-0.015504,0.035699,-0.006414,-0.0094,0.006692,0.033133,0.041732,-0.000487,0.006594,-0.013082,-0.016928,0.000814,-0.007823,-0.00013,-0.000633,-0.010182,0.009505,-0.00861,-0.00779,0.004314,-0.014821,-0.001317
Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3583,0.07057,0.149283,0.01 8856,-0.023256,0.029236,-0.013108,-0.025851,0.003231,0.045609,0.045012,-0.001786,-0.001948,-0.004757,-0.011423,0.005836,-0.005171,-0.015907,-0.002914,-0.022374,-0.006878,0.003494,-0.018919,-0.004067,-0.01458,0.001916
Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585,0.095611,0.145221,0.0 29415,-0.010982,0.036007,-0.01255,-0.001645,0.002308,0.03211,0.033349,-0.006983,0.004646,-0.008176,-0.016515,0.000136,-0.002917,0.001434,0.002407,-0.004022,0.005378,0.00262,-0.005564,0.006655,-0.012291,0.003473
Spain_Visigoth:I12031,0.12862,0.133034,0.039221,0. 016796,0.036007,0.004183,0.00799,0.010846,0.000409 ,0.006196,-0.00406,-0.002398,-0.005054,-0.001376,0.00095,-0.004641,0.004433,0.005068,-0.006913,0.005878,-0.000624,-0.003091,-0.002095,0.002892,-0.007185
Spain_Visigoth:I12032,0.137726,0.145221,0.051288,0 .02907,0.030775,0.011156,0.003055,0.009461,0.00961 3,0.008383,-0.005684,0.013038,-0.019326,-0.002202,0.005836,0.006497,0.001825,0.010769,0.003 645,0.014257,0.009109,-0.001484,-0.003328,-0.003253,-0.003353
Spain_Visigoth:I12034,0.133173,0.139128,0.044123,0 .01292,0.050779,-0.003904,0.002115,-0.000923,0.022293,0.03426,-0.001949,0.019932,-0.019623,-0.010597,0.015744,0.007425,-0.002217,0.00038,-0.008925,-0.004877,0.00549,0.005564,-0.005423,-0.01446,0.004191
Spain_Visigoth:I12162,0.114961,0.12491,0.049026,0. 031654,0.044316,0.01506,0.010575,-0.001846,0.002863,0.008565,-0.005521,0.01139,-0.003271,-0.011973,0.007057,-0.00305,0.00326,0.0019,0.004651,0.004127,0.019091, 0.002844,0.000739,0.013134,-0.00012
Spain_Visigoth:I12163,0.121791,0.137096,0.047894,0 .02261,0.026774,0.008367,0.009165,-0.003,0.002454,0.000364,-0.008119,0.001948,-0.013528,-0.003578,0.000136,0.019358,0.017863,-0.0019,0.005405,0.008504,-0.00262,0.004081,-0.002588,0.010363,-0.004191

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 0.0147% / 0.01473872
44.5 Spain_Visigoth
19.7 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona
17.8 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod
10.8 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval
7.2 Spain_Visigoth_Granada


Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.02020424 33.60% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 66.40% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02056437 35.20% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018558 __AD_797__Cov_80.49% + 64.80% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02063232 27.00% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022028__AD_720__Cov_67.44% + 73.00% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02079789 25.40% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3581 + 74.60% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02116881 23.40% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3576 + 76.60% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02146691 25.60% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582 + 74.40% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02158680 33.20% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585 + 66.80% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02245389 34.60% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36% + 65.40% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02252677 23.80% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3579 + 76.20% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02290672 23.40% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022052__AD_718__Cov_15.24% + 76.60% Spain_Visigoth:I12034

[Cernunnos]

Target: Cernunnos_scaled
Distance: 0.0159% / 0.01590634
36.7 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona
20.9 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval
16.7 Spain_Visigoth
14.3 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod
11.4 Spain_Visigoth_Granada

Distance to: Cernunnos_scaled
0.02086678 65.20% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777 + 34.80% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582
0.02157988 53.20% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777 + 46.80% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585
0.02173892 48.60% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018558 __AD_797__Cov_80.49% + 51.40% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777
0.02184478 73.20% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777 + 26.80% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3583
0.02201226 43.20% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022028__AD_720__Cov_67.44% + 56.80% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02249777 55.80% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018558 __AD_797__Cov_80.49% + 44.20% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02286112 36.00% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022028__AD_720__Cov_67.44% + 64.00% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777
0.02292222 76.20% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777 + 23.80% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3575
0.02315756 41.40% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 58.60% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777
0.02363843 54.00% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585 + 46.00% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02413035 74.20% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777 + 25.80% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3578
0.02474081 72.20% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777 + 27.80% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3576
0.02501647 40.00% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582 + 60.00% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02513433 70.00% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018558 __AD_797__Cov_80.49% + 30.00% Spain_Visigoth:I12032
0.02520492 70.20% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777 + 29.80% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3581
0.02553212 40.60% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36% + 59.40% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777
0.02588102 48.60% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 51.40% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02670053 41.80% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36% + 58.20% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018558 __AD_797__Cov_80.49%
0.02696715 36.80% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3581 + 63.20% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02707942 57.20% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022028__AD_720__Cov_67.44% + 42.80% Spain_Visigoth:I12032
0.02712893 20.20% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022026__AD_725__Cov_73.73% + 79.80% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777
0.02756505 27.00% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022052__AD_718__Cov_15.24% + 73.00% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777
0.02758111 33.60% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3576 + 66.40% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02767823 69.80% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585 + 30.20% Spain_Visigoth:I12032
0.02782419 30.20% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3583 + 69.80% Spain_Visigoth:I12034


Distance to: Cernunnos_scaled
0.03414462 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777
0.03532342 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018558 __AD_797__Cov_80.49%
0.03704853 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585
0.04105579 Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.04185540 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36%
0.04246572 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62%
0.04825545 Spain_Menorca_Visigoth-LateRoman_MigrationPeriod:CGG022041__AD_283__Cov_2 8.23%
0.05059424 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022028__AD_720__Cov_67.44%
0.05129308 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022031__AD_657__Cov_16.26%
0.05365838 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3775
0.05496845 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582
0.05551594 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022053__AD_624__Cov_26.74%
0.05825399 Spain_Visigoth:I12031
0.05962744 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3581
0.06100275 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022052__AD_718__Cov_15.24%
0.06337598 Spain_Visigoth:I12032
0.06451450 Spain_Visigoth:I12162
0.06601910 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3576
0.06925228 Spain_Visigoth:I12163
0.06988001 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3579
0.07375120 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3578
0.07481452 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3583
0.08397690 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3575
0.08674979 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022026__AD_725__Cov_73.73%

[Grace O'Malley]

Just looking at the populations closest to the Visigoth samples. A lot of them are very southern shifted. I guess they are very mixed but not very eastern or Scandinavian.


Distance to: Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022026__AD_725__Cov_73.73%
0.02967572 Sardinian
0.06918592 French_Corsica
0.07795676 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.07864603 Spanish_Menorca
0.07912686 Italian_Lombardy
0.07960620 Italian_Bergamo
0.07992903 Spanish_Murcia
0.07996188 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.08055069 Spanish_Aragon
0.08085247 Spanish_Castello
0.08098624 Spanish_Pirineu
0.08124217 French_Bigorre
0.08127787 Basque_Soule
0.08147778 Spanish_Burgos
0.08159984 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.08176719 Spanish_Valencia
0.08179517 Spanish_Andalucia
0.08180147 Spanish_Navarra
0.08191250 Spanish_Cantabria
0.08196404 Spanish_Baleares
0.08241803 Spanish_Eivissa
0.08266352 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.08348474 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.08365177 Spanish_Alacant
0.08379690 Basque_Navarre_Center

Distance to: Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022028__AD_720__Cov_67.44%
0.01837842 Spanish_Canarias
0.04144955 Spanish_Extremadura
0.04246410 Portuguese
0.04626503 Spanish_Andalucia
0.04664398 Spanish_Galicia
0.04714312 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.04795814 Spanish_Murcia
0.05110811 Belmonte_Jew
0.05295112 Spanish_Alacant
0.05454162 Spanish_Eivissa
0.05457493 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05576385 Spanish_Menorca
0.05609830 Spanish_Cantabria
0.05634730 Spanish_Baleares
0.05687853 Spanish_Valencia
0.05702922 Spanish_Cataluna
0.05751092 Spanish_Asturias
0.05883175 Spanish_Mallorca
0.05934519 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.05957153 Spanish_Aragon
0.06063890 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.06076016 Spanish_Pirineu
0.06141815 Spanish_Castello
0.06179620 Spanish_Girona
0.06224018 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre

Distance to: Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022031__AD_657__Cov_16.26%
0.03969442 Swiss_Italian
0.04142273 Italian_Emilia
0.04208330 Portuguese
0.04335285 Spanish_Murcia
0.04391435 Italian_Piedmont
0.04460136 Spanish_Extremadura
0.04508158 Spanish_Alacant
0.04517321 Spanish_Eivissa
0.04525418 Italian_Tuscany
0.04620628 Spanish_Galicia
0.04639776 Spanish_Andalucia
0.04656946 Spanish_Baleares
0.04691259 French_Provence
0.04730250 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04771752 French_Corsica
0.04789854 Italian_Veneto
0.04811285 Italian_Bergamo
0.04857906 Spanish_Girona
0.04860184 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04883590 Italian_Lombardy
0.04893491 Spanish_Valencia
0.04911443 Italian_Umbria
0.04912274 Spanish_Canarias
0.04916015 Spanish_Penedes
0.04951256 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha

Distance to: Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36%
0.02915857 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.03119435 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03242833 Spanish_Galicia
0.03280096 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03373182 Spanish_Valencia
0.03452015 Spanish_Murcia
0.03466939 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03479581 Portuguese
0.03487372 Spanish_Asturias
0.03577996 Spanish_Menorca
0.03615100 Spanish_Barcelones
0.03618224 Spanish_Alacant
0.03627746 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03644295 Spanish_Aragon
0.03680245 Spanish_Extremadura
0.03714660 Spanish_Navarra
0.03777481 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03853648 Spanish_Cataluna
0.03873075 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03951543 Spanish_Lleida
0.04024025 Spanish_Baleares
0.04025384 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04035881 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04036334 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04070907 Italian_Liguria

Distance to: Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022052__AD_718__Cov_15.24%
0.04300989 Spanish_Canarias
0.04872188 Portuguese
0.04879881 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.05122258 Spanish_Galicia
0.05142934 Spanish_Andalucia
0.05346296 Spanish_Extremadura
0.05433814 Spanish_Asturias
0.05551821 Spanish_Murcia
0.05586730 Italian_Liguria
0.05601259 Spanish_Eivissa
0.05665623 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05754166 Spanish_Menorca
0.05774183 Spanish_Alacant
0.05943739 Spanish_Valencia
0.05960039 Spanish_Baleares
0.05990588 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.06008987 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.06069737 Italian_Emilia
0.06097064 Spanish_Mallorca
0.06112985 Spanish_Cantabria
0.06151368 Spanish_Cataluna
0.06180454 Spanish_Aragon
0.06182302 Italian_Lombardy
0.06222614 Italian_Piedmont
0.06238416 Swiss_Italian

Distance to: Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022053__AD_624__Cov_26.74%
0.03843646 French_Provence
0.03872926 Swiss_French
0.03874608 French_Alsace
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0.04132760 French_Auvergne
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0.04713831 Moldovan
0.04732544 German

Distance to: Spain_Menorca_Visigoth-LateRoman_MigrationPeriod:CGG022041__AD_283__Cov_2 8.23%
0.03555394 Portuguese
0.03675460 Spanish_Extremadura
0.03753344 Spanish_Murcia
0.03818698 French_Corsica
0.03911103 Swiss_Italian
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0.03952893 Italian_Piedmont
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0.04388218 Italian_Veneto
0.04432444 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.04532762 Spanish_Penedes
0.04553565 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.04570980 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

Distance to: Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018558 __AD_797__Cov_80.49%
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0.02927606 Spanish_Extremadura
0.02996315 Portuguese
0.03429111 Spanish_Galicia
0.03489765 Spanish_Murcia
0.03499648 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03639384 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.03891718 Spanish_Alacant
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0.04197598 Spanish_Baleares
0.04267435 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.04274678 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04289265 Spanish_Valencia
0.04295913 Spanish_Menorca
0.04353066 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04444553 Spanish_Castello
0.04504957 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04544520 Spanish_Aragon
0.04563184 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04574631 Spanish_Girona
0.04594703 Spanish_Penedes
0.04690471 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.04747543 Spanish_Lleida

Distance to: Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62%
0.02569246 Spanish_Canarias
0.02941213 Spanish_Extremadura
0.03081683 Portuguese
0.03100504 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03320202 Spanish_Galicia
0.03379995 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.03423710 Spanish_Murcia
0.03658928 Spanish_Alacant
0.03769133 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03769764 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03997688 Spanish_Valencia
0.04065709 Spanish_Menorca
0.04074929 Spanish_Asturias
0.04139421 Spanish_Cantabria
0.04219283 Spanish_Aragon
0.04249002 Spanish_Baleares
0.04269470 Spanish_Cataluna
0.04370683 Spanish_Navarra
0.04427556 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04459787 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.04496054 Italian_Liguria
0.04600960 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04615996 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04637448 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04654004 Spanish_Castello

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3775
0.03947742 Spanish_Burgos
0.03968520 Spanish_Castello
0.03997999 French_Bigorre
0.04041060 French_Bearn
0.04067188 French_Auvergne
0.04082528 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04119118 French_Occitanie
0.04161360 French_South
0.04175563 Spanish_Aragon_North
0.04189376 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04223965 Spanish_Lleida
0.04253642 Spanish_Penedes
0.04259106 Spanish_Barcelones
0.04288171 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04298670 French_Chalosse
0.04313681 Spanish_Girona
0.04342094 Spanish_Cataluna
0.04343311 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04351696 Spanish_Valencia
0.04360890 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04375739 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04381802 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.04392575 Spanish_Cantabria
0.04401663 Spanish_Navarra
0.04432759 Spanish_Biscay

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777
0.02451042 French_Auvergne
0.02475981 French_Occitanie
0.02659210 Spanish_Girona
0.02783780 French_Paris
0.02830714 Spanish_Penedes
0.02892589 Swiss_French
0.02899069 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02934987 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02956229 French_Provence
0.02962525 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02975910 BelgianC
0.03004144 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03006664 Spanish_Barcelones
0.03021402 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03047454 Spanish_Lleida
0.03124065 French_Nord
0.03154222 French_Alsace
0.03163668 Swiss_German
0.03178907 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03210477 Spanish_Baleares
0.03236725 Spanish_Castello
0.03306526 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03309933 Spanish_Pirineu
0.03374140 BelgianB
0.03380668 Spanish_Biscay

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3575
0.05283063 Spanish_Canarias
0.06205305 Belmonte_Jew
0.06893970 Moroccan_Jew
0.06914733 Sicilian_West
0.07070414 Maltese
0.07477583 Algerian_Jew
0.07537455 Spanish_Extremadura
0.07538926 Portuguese
0.07549876 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.07615517 Ashkenazi_Austria
0.07652240 Ashkenazi_Poland
0.07715074 Spanish_Andalucia
0.07727027 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.07739308 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.07751002 Ashkenazi_Romania
0.07885405 Spanish_Murcia
0.07922806 Spanish_Galicia
0.07941427 Ashkenazi_France
0.07966240 Ashkenazi_Germany
0.07968522 Sicilian_East
0.07969622 Bulgarian_Jew
0.07980826 Ashkenazi_Latvia
0.08019335 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.08021363 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.08080773 Turkish_Jew

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3576
0.03631325 Spanish_Canarias
0.04405719 Belmonte_Jew
0.05462564 Portuguese
0.05521031 Sicilian_West
0.05615319 Spanish_Extremadura
0.05663993 Spanish_Andalucia
0.05868097 Spanish_Murcia
0.05915320 Maltese
0.05922948 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.06017201 Spanish_Galicia
0.06155919 French_Corsica
0.06254835 Spanish_Menorca
0.06332114 Italian_Liguria
0.06370583 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.06390760 Spanish_Eivissa
0.06482550 Spanish_Alacant
0.06559314 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr_o
0.06589245 Italian_Lazio
0.06597850 Moroccan_Jew
0.06623730 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.06643911 Sicilian_East
0.06651545 Italian_Umbria
0.06651859 Spanish_Asturias
0.06690431 Italian_Marche
0.06708404 Spanish_Valencia

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3578
0.04412631 Spanish_Canarias
0.05162206 Belmonte_Jew
0.06164205 Portuguese
0.06241491 Spanish_Extremadura
0.06277004 Sicilian_West
0.06315546 Spanish_Andalucia
0.06409722 Maltese
0.06578352 Moroccan_Jew
0.06650772 Spanish_Galicia
0.06703395 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.06821877 Spanish_Murcia
0.07054127 Spanish_Alacant
0.07061462 Spanish_Asturias
0.07068767 French_Corsica
0.07117244 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.07153824 Spanish_Eivissa
0.07178289 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.07181431 Ashkenazi_Austria
0.07197837 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr_o
0.07210211 Spanish_Menorca
0.07226900 Sicilian_East
0.07257270 Italian_Lazio
0.07266901 Ashkenazi_Romania
0.07285368 Ashkenazi_Poland
0.07309918 Italian_Umbria

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3579
0.05221781 Sicilian_West
0.05238930 French_Corsica
0.05277821 Italian_Lombardy
0.05280321 Italian_Liguria
0.05313650 Italian_Emilia
0.05316277 Italian_Tuscany
0.05434883 Italian_Marche
0.05486898 Spanish_Canarias
0.05486911 Italian_Piedmont
0.05496188 Italian_Umbria
0.05497632 Spanish_Menorca
0.05531850 Spanish_Andalucia
0.05538524 Spanish_Extremadura
0.05558633 Italian_Lazio
0.05649753 Spanish_Eivissa
0.05696580 Portuguese
0.05748393 Italian_Bergamo
0.05763319 Belmonte_Jew
0.05802359 Sicilian_East
0.05812784 Italian_Abruzzo
0.05852431 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05889814 Italian_Molise
0.05900941 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.05988239 Greek_Thessaly
0.06024531 Spanish_Baleares

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3581
0.03380332 Spanish_Canarias
0.04214425 Belmonte_Jew
0.04772532 Portuguese
0.04883411 Spanish_Extremadura
0.05225306 Spanish_Murcia
0.05246793 Spanish_Andalucia
0.05407756 French_Corsica
0.05425712 Spanish_Galicia
0.05522520 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.05557458 Sicilian_West
0.05707194 Spanish_Menorca
0.05732173 Spanish_Eivissa
0.05763451 Spanish_Alacant
0.05829613 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05891210 Maltese
0.05971388 Spanish_Baleares
0.06034741 Italian_Umbria
0.06058491 Italian_Liguria
0.06079655 Italian_Lazio
0.06100084 Italian_Tuscany
0.06125351 Italian_Emilia
0.06153470 Spanish_Cantabria
0.06162523 Spanish_Valencia
0.06164536 Spanish_Mallorca
0.06195977 Italian_Lombardy

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582
0.02905761 Spanish_Canarias
0.04636670 Spanish_Extremadura
0.04700334 Portuguese
0.04808679 Belmonte_Jew
0.04912525 Spanish_Andalucia
0.05040521 Spanish_Murcia
0.05102010 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.05113740 Spanish_Galicia
0.05601866 Spanish_Menorca
0.05657415 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05675836 Spanish_Alacant
0.05841775 Spanish_Eivissa
0.05865970 French_Corsica
0.05923958 Spanish_Valencia
0.05937545 Spanish_Baleares
0.05972498 Spanish_Cantabria
0.06066533 Italian_Liguria
0.06077889 Spanish_Aragon
0.06141329 Spanish_Asturias
0.06148304 Spanish_Cataluna
0.06154033 Spanish_Mallorca
0.06164699 Sicilian_West
0.06192701 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.06209676 Spanish_Pirineu
0.06232487 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3583
0.04591490 Spanish_Canarias
0.06201884 Belmonte_Jew
0.06509494 Spanish_Extremadura
0.06751738 Portuguese
0.06812081 Spanish_Andalucia
0.06974783 Spanish_Galicia
0.07081275 Spanish_Murcia
0.07097209 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.07220728 Sicilian_West
0.07408612 Spanish_Alacant
0.07479949 Maltese
0.07497666 Spanish_Asturias
0.07562952 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.07677820 Moroccan_Jew
0.07719097 Spanish_Eivissa
0.07782305 French_Corsica
0.07783713 Spanish_Menorca
0.07825207 Spanish_Valencia
0.07871265 Spanish_Cantabria
0.08063921 Spanish_Cataluna
0.08110250 Spanish_Aragon
0.08145902 Italian_Liguria
0.08153296 Spanish_Baleares
0.08169401 Spanish_Pirineu
0.08213668 Spanish_Navarra

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585
0.02642185 Spanish_Canarias
0.02825889 Spanish_Extremadura
0.02920842 Portuguese
0.02933981 Spanish_Murcia
0.02997177 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03310875 Spanish_Galicia
0.03484319 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.03548034 Spanish_Menorca
0.03569726 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03678121 Spanish_Alacant
0.03775985 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03820610 Spanish_Baleares
0.03830827 Spanish_Valencia
0.03919809 Spanish_Cantabria
0.04075795 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04129761 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04131396 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04168161 Spanish_Cataluna
0.04189802 French_Corsica
0.04191196 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.04231935 Spanish_Aragon
0.04233218 Spanish_Castello
0.04250246 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04368148 Italian_Liguria
0.04386805 Spanish_Lleida

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth:I12031
0.02964160 Romanian
0.02985606 French_Alsace
0.03044164 Austrian
0.03117794 Swiss_German
0.03128095 Serbian
0.03147165 Montenegrin
0.03177958 Italian_Northeast
0.03199368 Moldovan
0.03331083 French_Nord
0.03402942 BelgianB
0.03540386 French_Provence
0.03544926 Bosnian
0.03569587 Croatian
0.03577825 Bulgarian
0.03636999 BelgianC
0.03660758 German_Erlangen
0.03671893 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.03752404 Swiss_French
0.03779219 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03783468 Hungarian
0.03803038 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03828820 German
0.03837858 French_Paris
0.03842669 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03851400 Macedonian

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth:I12032
0.03070667 French_Nord
0.03131419 French_Alsace
0.03144106 BelgianB
0.03252342 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03265736 Swiss_German
0.03313047 BelgianC
0.03359719 BelgianA
0.03404316 French_Paris
0.03527132 German
0.03613954 French_Brittany
0.03617574 French_Occitanie
0.03633247 Austrian
0.03735013 German_Erlangen
0.03737499 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03872178 French_Auvergne
0.03903672 Welsh
0.03960202 Swiss_French
0.04041113 English
0.04089792 Afrikaner
0.04142897 English_Cornwall
0.04163615 Dutch
0.04455330 French_Provence
0.04458650 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04510025 Orcadian
0.04543477 Scottish

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02343797 Spanish_Aragon_North
0.02502445 French_Chalosse
0.02509368 French_Bearn
0.02591252 Basque_Gipuzkoa
0.02716943 French_South
0.02727037 French_Bigorre
0.02734246 Basque_Navarre_Center
0.02756549 Basque_Lower_Navarre
0.02804652 Spanish_Pirineu
0.02828745 Spanish_Burgos
0.02836659 Spanish_Biscay
0.02873799 Basque_Roncal
0.02886325 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.02888605 Basque_Spanish
0.02889220 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
0.02950153 Basque_Navarre_North
0.02994254 Basque_Biscay
0.03082003 Basque_Araba
0.03096289 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03107287 Spanish_Navarra
0.03147418 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03162404 Spanish_Castello
0.03164580 Spanish_Lleida
0.03222957 Spanish_Valencia
0.03228525 Spanish_Aragon

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth:I12162
0.02856299 Afrikaner
0.03325565 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03388515 BelgianB
0.03520185 German
0.03560376 French_Alsace
0.03587397 French_Nord
0.03603941 Dutch
0.03666548 Swiss_German
0.03678271 BelgianA
0.03709448 BelgianC
0.03767646 French_Paris
0.03777280 German_Erlangen
0.03805014 French_Brittany
0.03877795 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03907132 Austrian
0.04016717 English
0.04031404 Welsh
0.04127588 English_Cornwall
0.04226584 Scottish
0.04276531 German_Hamburg
0.04342442 Orcadian
0.04438915 Shetlandic
0.04450568 Danish
0.04523412 French_Occitanie
0.04538778 Swiss_French

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth:I12163
0.03670296 Austrian
0.03839001 BelgianB
0.03854858 French_Alsace
0.03897166 Montenegrin
0.03991631 French_Nord
0.04031988 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04059313 German_Erlangen
0.04063940 Swiss_German
0.04158844 German
0.04197310 French_Paris
0.04298989 BelgianC
0.04333031 Afrikaner
0.04372943 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04401116 Italian_Northeast
0.04418419 Swiss_French
0.04438904 Bosnian
0.04481905 Serbian
0.04500006 Romanian
0.04516778 French_Provence
0.04522577 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04551523 Hungarian
0.04598839 Moldovan
0.04629930 Croatian
0.04657469 BelgianA
0.04754575 French_Auvergne

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 0.0151% / 0.01513896
45.7 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod
23.1 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona
20.8 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
7.8 Spain_Visigoth
2.6 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval

[Beowulf]

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0125% / 0.01249070
48.7 Spain_Visigoth
25.3 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona
13.3 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval
11.8 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod
0.9 Spain_Visigoth_Granada

[gixajo]

Just looking at the populations closest to the Visigoth samples. A lot of them are very southern shifted. I guess they are very mixed but not very eastern or Scandinavian.

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We already know, Grace. They are "individuals from the Iberian Peninsula under Visigothic rule buried as Visigoths".

After a couple of centuries of wandering throughout Roman Europe, and eventually settling for centuries on the Iberian Peninsula, we can't expect most of them to be very Nordic.

And no one is trying to pass them off as Nordic, don't worry.:D

If you don't mind...could you put all those results inside a spoiler so they don't take up so much space? The point is that the Spanish and Portuguese forum members, and related people (mainly) post our results.

Just for fun calculator, of course.:)

[Cernunnos]

We already know, Grace. They are "individuals from the Iberian Peninsula under Visigothic rule buried as Visigoths".

After a couple of centuries of wandering throughout Roman Europe, and eventually settling for centuries on the Iberian Peninsula, we can't expect most of them to be very Nordic.

And no one is trying to pass them off as Nordic, don't worry.:D

If you don't mind...could you put all those results inside a spoiler so they don't take up so much space? The point is that the Spanish and Portuguese forum members, and related people (mainly) post our results.

Just for fun calculator, of course.:)

I guess Suebis were more "Germanic" than Visigoths when they arrived to the Iberian Peninsula and established their kingdom in the Northwest (Galicia + Northern half of Portugal). But later had the same fate as the Visigoths regarding that matter.

[SnowMountains]

I guess Suebis were more "Germanic" than Visigoths when they arrived to the Iberian Peninsula and established their kingdom in the Northwest (Galicia + Northern half of Portugal). But later had the same fate as the Visigoths regarding that matter.

The Suebi were a mix of Langobards, Semnones, Alemanni, Quadi and Marcomanni before crossing the Rhine. The Goths, on the other hand, had spent a long time in the Balkans. I believe this is why the Suebi who arrived in northwestern Iberia around 411 still showed strong genetic similarities with Southern Scandinavia and Northern Germany. This explains the excess of germanic paternal lineage found in Galicia.

[Grace O'Malley]

We already know, Grace. They are "individuals from the Iberian Peninsula under Visigothic rule buried as Visigoths".

After a couple of centuries of wandering throughout Roman Europe, and eventually settling for centuries on the Iberian Peninsula, we can't expect most of them to be very Nordic.

And no one is trying to pass them off as Nordic, don't worry.:D

If you don't mind...could you put all those results inside a spoiler so they don't take up so much space? The point is that the Spanish and Portuguese forum members, and related people (mainly) post our results.

Just for fun calculator, of course.:)

Who said anything about passing them off as Nordic? I was just interested in the populations that are closest to them and yes I did expect them to be a bit more eastern or even German but I know they wouldn't be Nordic. I'll put in a spoiler. :) I feel like you take my post as offensive from your reply. It is interesting that that aren't particularly Germanic.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

Gixajo is such a weird fellow (always seeing enemies where there are none).

Anyway, nothing new here.

[Cernunnos]

The Suebi were a mix of Langobards, Semnones, Alemanni, Quadi and Marcomanni before crossing the Rhine. The Goths, on the other hand, had spent a long time in the Balkans. I believe this is why the Suebi who arrived in northwestern Iberia around 411 still showed strong genetic similarities with Southern Scandinavia and Northern Germany. This explains the excess of paternal Germanic lineage found in Galicia.

I read a long time ago in a source I can't find anymore, that between 6 to 12% of the population of most locations/villages in the Suebi kingdom of Gallaecia were actual Suebi. Dunno if it's wrong.

[SnowMountains]

I read a long time ago in a source I can't find anymore, that between 6 to 12% of the population of most locations/villages in the Suebi kingdom of Gallaecia were actual Suebi. Dunno if it's wrong.

approximately 12% of germanic paternal lineage and 3% to 5% germanic maternal lineage so it could reach +- 15% germanic lineage in galicia

https://i.postimg.cc/CLkTdRzK/germanic-y-dna.jpg

[Friends of Oliver Society]

I guess Suebis were more "Germanic" than Visigoths when they arrived to the Iberian Peninsula and established their kingdom in the Northwest (Galicia + Northern half of Portugal). But later had the same fate as the Visigoths regarding that matter.

What we know of them - I think it's in the writings of Isidore of Seville - is that the Suebis quickly assimilated with the locals.

Supposedly the Visigoths behaved like their own caste and that may have been true in the beginning but clearly not true by the fall of the Visigothic kingdom.

[Opie]

After a couple of centuries of wandering throughout Roman Europe, and eventually settling for centuries on the Iberian Peninsula, we can't expect most of them to be very Nordic.

The real reason is Andalusia soaked up all the Nordic ones and left nothing for other regions.

[EasternLusitanian]

Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0156% / 0.01563735
43.7 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod
23.2 Spain_Menorca_Visigoth-LateRoman_MigrationPeriod
20.3 Spain_Visigoth
11.2 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
1.6 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval

[Beowulf]

I read a long time ago in a source I can't find anymore, that between 6 to 12% of the population of most locations/villages in the Suebi kingdom of Gallaecia were actual Suebi. Dunno if it's wrong.

I think that statement does make some sort of sense, specially by thinking the fact that ancient Northwestern Iberia was way more sparcely populated compared to the modern one, plus, according to some Historians around 52.000 Suebis did settled in that region (another fun fact is that they were still pagan when they settled there).

[Gannicus]

You can use me as a sort of a control group :)

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.03956283 Spain_Visigoth:I12162
0.04357578 Spain_Visigoth:I12032
0.04726485 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777
0.05143020 Spain_Visigoth:I12163
0.05495094 Spain_Visigoth:I12031
0.05523154 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022053__AD_624__Cov_26.74%
0.06081374 Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.06427650 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3775
0.07514702 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36%
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0.08275346 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018558 __AD_797__Cov_80.49%
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Distance: 0.0327% / 0.03273812
87.2 Spain_Visigoth
12.8 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona



And this song btw is very catchy and appropriate for this thread!

Skaldic Bard is the artist. He has a couple other songs I like such as his version of Herr Mannelig in old Norse and one in Old English



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcRTtQ9pjw4

[Lurgori]

One of those visigoths even had J2a too. So much for "gemanic Y-DNA" as if they did not overlap significantly with pre germanic groups in iberia wich had R1bs of all kinds, had I1 and I2a2 from gauls and even some R1a from tumulus culture.

[vader]

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Distance: 0.8646% / 0.00864645
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31.0 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval
13.0 Spain_Visigoth
7.8 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
5.0 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona


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0.03040484 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585
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[RyoHazuki]

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 4.3171% / 0.04317105
82.4 Spain_Visigoth
17.6 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 2.7206% / 0.02720585
85.6 Spain_Visigoth
14.4 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona

Target: RyoAncestry_scaled
Distance: 3.8477% / 0.03847667
85.4 Spain_Visigoth
14.6 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod

[gixajo]

The real reason is Andalusia soaked up all the Nordic ones and left nothing for other regions.

Your post will receive the "Gallop approved" seal.:thumb001:

[gixajo]

Who said anything about passing them off as Nordic? I was just interested in the populations that are closest to them and yes I did expect them to be a bit more eastern or even German but I know they wouldn't be Nordic. I'll put in a spoiler. :) I feel like you take my post as offensive from your reply. It is interesting that that aren't particularly Germanic.

No offense , and thanks Grace, all you have posted it´s very informative , specially for those who don´t know that these new samples (9) show the same than older ones (15) :thumb001:

They have never been particularly Germanic; the most Germanic we can find among them are some who resemble French.

[gixajo]

Just looking at the populations closest to the Visigoth samples. A lot of them are very southern shifted. I guess they are very mixed but not very eastern or Scandinavian.



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0.03843646 French_Provence
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0.03820610 Spanish_Baleares
0.03830827 Spanish_Valencia
0.03919809 Spanish_Cantabria
0.04075795 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04129761 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04131396 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04168161 Spanish_Cataluna
0.04189802 French_Corsica
0.04191196 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.04231935 Spanish_Aragon
0.04233218 Spanish_Castello
0.04250246 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04368148 Italian_Liguria
0.04386805 Spanish_Lleida

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth:I12031
0.02964160 Romanian
0.02985606 French_Alsace
0.03044164 Austrian
0.03117794 Swiss_German
0.03128095 Serbian
0.03147165 Montenegrin
0.03177958 Italian_Northeast
0.03199368 Moldovan
0.03331083 French_Nord
0.03402942 BelgianB
0.03540386 French_Provence
0.03544926 Bosnian
0.03569587 Croatian
0.03577825 Bulgarian
0.03636999 BelgianC
0.03660758 German_Erlangen
0.03671893 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.03752404 Swiss_French
0.03779219 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03783468 Hungarian
0.03803038 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03828820 German
0.03837858 French_Paris
0.03842669 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03851400 Macedonian

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth:I12032
0.03070667 French_Nord
0.03131419 French_Alsace
0.03144106 BelgianB
0.03252342 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03265736 Swiss_German
0.03313047 BelgianC
0.03359719 BelgianA
0.03404316 French_Paris
0.03527132 German
0.03613954 French_Brittany
0.03617574 French_Occitanie
0.03633247 Austrian
0.03735013 German_Erlangen
0.03737499 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03872178 French_Auvergne
0.03903672 Welsh
0.03960202 Swiss_French
0.04041113 English
0.04089792 Afrikaner
0.04142897 English_Cornwall
0.04163615 Dutch
0.04455330 French_Provence
0.04458650 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04510025 Orcadian
0.04543477 Scottish

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02343797 Spanish_Aragon_North
0.02502445 French_Chalosse
0.02509368 French_Bearn
0.02591252 Basque_Gipuzkoa
0.02716943 French_South
0.02727037 French_Bigorre
0.02734246 Basque_Navarre_Center
0.02756549 Basque_Lower_Navarre
0.02804652 Spanish_Pirineu
0.02828745 Spanish_Burgos
0.02836659 Spanish_Biscay
0.02873799 Basque_Roncal
0.02886325 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.02888605 Basque_Spanish
0.02889220 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
0.02950153 Basque_Navarre_North
0.02994254 Basque_Biscay
0.03082003 Basque_Araba
0.03096289 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03107287 Spanish_Navarra
0.03147418 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03162404 Spanish_Castello
0.03164580 Spanish_Lleida
0.03222957 Spanish_Valencia
0.03228525 Spanish_Aragon

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth:I12162
0.02856299 Afrikaner
0.03325565 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03388515 BelgianB
0.03520185 German
0.03560376 French_Alsace
0.03587397 French_Nord
0.03603941 Dutch
0.03666548 Swiss_German
0.03678271 BelgianA
0.03709448 BelgianC
0.03767646 French_Paris
0.03777280 German_Erlangen
0.03805014 French_Brittany
0.03877795 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03907132 Austrian
0.04016717 English
0.04031404 Welsh
0.04127588 English_Cornwall
0.04226584 Scottish
0.04276531 German_Hamburg
0.04342442 Orcadian
0.04438915 Shetlandic
0.04450568 Danish
0.04523412 French_Occitanie
0.04538778 Swiss_French

Distance to: Spain_Visigoth:I12163
0.03670296 Austrian
0.03839001 BelgianB
0.03854858 French_Alsace
0.03897166 Montenegrin
0.03991631 French_Nord
0.04031988 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04059313 German_Erlangen
0.04063940 Swiss_German
0.04158844 German
0.04197310 French_Paris
0.04298989 BelgianC
0.04333031 Afrikaner
0.04372943 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04401116 Italian_Northeast
0.04418419 Swiss_French
0.04438904 Bosnian
0.04481905 Serbian
0.04500006 Romanian
0.04516778 French_Provence
0.04522577 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04551523 Hungarian
0.04598839 Moldovan
0.04629930 Croatian
0.04657469 BelgianA
0.04754575 French_Auvergne

And what may have bothered me about your post is that after only two forum member results, you posted a post with...24 sample distance list results.

24x26 lines of text+ 25 blank lines

How dare you, Grace?:picard1:

[R1b-L51]

The real reason is Andalusia soaked up all the Nordic ones and left nothing for other regions.

Andalucians and Tajickos they fold all the Nordeshian genes.

[R1b-L51]

PRIMERO SORIAN PORQUE SÍ

Target: Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)_(n=2)
Distance: 2.3048% / 0.02304798
39.4 Spain_Visigoth:I12034
19.2 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777
18.6 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018558 __AD_797__Cov_80.49%
9.0 Spain_Visigoth:I12163
7.8 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3775
6.0 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022026__AD_725__Cov_73.73%

Target: Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)_(n=2)
Distance: 2.3048% / 0.02304798
48.4 Spain_Visigoth
27.0 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona
18.6 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval
6.0 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod








LUEGO YO

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.5976% / 0.01597570
21.4 Spain_Visigoth:I12034
20.2 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3583
14.4 Spain_Visigoth:I12031
14.4 Spain_Visigoth:I12162
13.4 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62%
11.4 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3576
2.2 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3579
1.4 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36%
1.0 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3575
0.2 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3775

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.5976% / 0.01597570
50.2 Spain_Visigoth
34.8 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
13.4 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval
1.4 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod
0.2 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona

[R1b-L51]

What we know of them - I think it's in the writings of Isidore of Seville - is that the Suebis quickly assimilated with the locals.

Supposedly the Visigoths behaved like their own caste and that may have been true in the beginning but clearly not true by the fall of the Visigothic kingdom.


SAINT ISIDORE

https://i.postimg.cc/MKfFrFK8/Screenshot-2025-04-16-at-17-44-33-Isidore-of-Seville-Wikipedia.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://www.franciscanmedia.org/saint-of-the-day/saint-isidore-of-seville/

[R1b-L51]

I think that statement does make some sort of sense, specially by thinking the fact that ancient Northwestern Iberia was way more sparcely populated compared to the modern one, plus, according to some Historians around 52.000 Suebis did settled in that region (another fun fact is that they were still pagan when they settled there).

And Now they are called Alberto Núñez FRIJOL

[R1b-L51]

One of those visigoths even had J2a too. So much for "gemanic Y-DNA" as if they did not overlap significantly with pre germanic groups in iberia wich had R1bs of all kinds, had I1 and I2a2 from gauls and even some R1a from tumulus culture.

Supposedly the Visigoths originated in Southern Poland, supposedly in Poland there are between 11.6% and 16.4% of paternal haplogroups J (among them the Ashkenazim who are nothing more than Poles)

[PT Tagus]

Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 0.0152% / 0.01516358
68.8 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod
21.8 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
9.4 Spain_Visigoth


Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 0.0152% / 0.01516358
34.1 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022028__AD_720__Cov_67.44%
34.1 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36%
20.2 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3579
7.3 Spain_Visigoth:I12163
2.1 Spain_Visigoth:I12162
1.3 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3578
0.6 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022052__AD_718__Cov_15.24%
0.3 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3575



Distance to: Endovelicus_scaled
0.02552772 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62%
0.03462028 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36%
0.03649542 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585
0.03652195 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022028__AD_720__Cov_67.44%
0.03746323 Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018558 __AD_797__Cov_80.49%
0.04464928 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582
0.04518313 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022052__AD_718__Cov_15.24%
0.04574925 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3579
0.04867918 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3581
0.04997041 Spain_Menorca_Visigoth-LateRoman_MigrationPeriod:CGG022041__AD_283__Cov_2 8.23%
0.05023480 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3576
0.05067461 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022031__AD_657__Cov_16.26%
0.05652718 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3578
0.05742539 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777
0.05948840 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3583
0.06380276 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3575
0.06383632 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022053__AD_624__Cov_26.74%
0.06431774 Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.06687457 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3775
0.06822016 Spain_Visigoth:I12031
0.07316987 Spain_Visigoth:I12162
0.07826608 Spain_Visigoth:I12163
0.07958684 Spain_Visigoth:I12032
0.09398069 Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022026__AD_725__Cov_73.73%



Distance to: Endovelicus_scaled
0.01973172 48.00% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022028__AD_720__Cov_67.44% + 52.00% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36%
0.02182565 84.00% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 16.00% Spain_Visigoth:I12162
0.02211010 85.40% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 14.60% Spain_Visigoth:I12163
0.02230466 83.80% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 16.20% Spain_Visigoth:I12031
0.02262749 86.60% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 13.40% Spain_Visigoth:I12032
0.02267326 16.40% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022053__AD_624__Cov_26.74% + 83.60% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62%
0.02288270 22.60% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022052__AD_718__Cov_15.24% + 77.40% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62%
0.02305309 53.40% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36% + 46.60% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018558 __AD_797__Cov_80.49%
0.02352691 25.40% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018558 __AD_797__Cov_80.49% + 74.60% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62%
0.02355610 28.00% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36% + 72.00% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62%
0.02360817 80.20% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 19.80% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3579
0.02405573 86.00% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 14.00% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777
0.02426167 22.60% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022028__AD_720__Cov_67.44% + 77.40% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62%
0.02461718 80.00% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 20.00% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585
0.02468919 63.40% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36% + 36.60% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3581
0.02476813 90.60% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 9.40% Spain_Visigoth:I12034
0.02483589 91.40% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 8.60% Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3775
0.02489376 11.40% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022031__AD_657__Cov_16.26% + 88.60% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62%
0.02500969 61.60% Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36% + 38.40% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3579
0.02513366 9.40% Spain_Menorca_Visigoth-LateRoman_MigrationPeriod:CGG022041__AD_283__Cov_2 8.23% + 90.60% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62%
0.02540929 94.40% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 5.60% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3581
0.02541548 93.80% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 6.20% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582
0.02545508 56.00% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3583 + 44.00% Spain_Visigoth:I12162
0.02549565 97.20% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 2.80% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3576
0.02552188 99.00% Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018559 __AD_772__Cov_98.62% + 1.00% Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3575

[RyoHazuki]

Just looking at the populations closest to the Visigoth samples. A lot of them are very southern shifted. I guess they are very mixed but not very eastern or Scandinavian.


Distance to: Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022026__AD_725__Cov_73.73%
0.02967572 Sardinian
0.06918592 French_Corsica
0.07795676 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.07864603 Spanish_Menorca
0.07912686 Italian_Lombardy
0.07960620 Italian_Bergamo
0.07992903 Spanish_Murcia
0.07996188 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.08055069 Spanish_Aragon
0.08085247 Spanish_Castello
0.08098624 Spanish_Pirineu
0.08124217 French_Bigorre
0.08127787 Basque_Soule
0.08147778 Spanish_Burgos
0.08159984 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.08176719 Spanish_Valencia
0.08179517 Spanish_Andalucia
0.08180147 Spanish_Navarra
0.08191250 Spanish_Cantabria
0.08196404 Spanish_Baleares
0.08241803 Spanish_Eivissa
0.08266352 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.08348474 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.08365177 Spanish_Alacant
0.08379690 Basque_Navarre_Center

Distance to: Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022028__AD_720__Cov_67.44%
0.01837842 Spanish_Canarias
0.04144955 Spanish_Extremadura
0.04246410 Portuguese
0.04626503 Spanish_Andalucia
0.04664398 Spanish_Galicia
0.04714312 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.04795814 Spanish_Murcia
0.05110811 Belmonte_Jew
0.05295112 Spanish_Alacant
0.05454162 Spanish_Eivissa
0.05457493 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05576385 Spanish_Menorca
0.05609830 Spanish_Cantabria
0.05634730 Spanish_Baleares
0.05687853 Spanish_Valencia
0.05702922 Spanish_Cataluna
0.05751092 Spanish_Asturias
0.05883175 Spanish_Mallorca
0.05934519 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.05957153 Spanish_Aragon
0.06063890 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.06076016 Spanish_Pirineu
0.06141815 Spanish_Castello
0.06179620 Spanish_Girona
0.06224018 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre

Distance to: Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022031__AD_657__Cov_16.26%
0.03969442 Swiss_Italian
0.04142273 Italian_Emilia
0.04208330 Portuguese
0.04335285 Spanish_Murcia
0.04391435 Italian_Piedmont
0.04460136 Spanish_Extremadura
0.04508158 Spanish_Alacant
0.04517321 Spanish_Eivissa
0.04525418 Italian_Tuscany
0.04620628 Spanish_Galicia
0.04639776 Spanish_Andalucia
0.04656946 Spanish_Baleares
0.04691259 French_Provence
0.04730250 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04771752 French_Corsica
0.04789854 Italian_Veneto
0.04811285 Italian_Bergamo
0.04857906 Spanish_Girona
0.04860184 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04883590 Italian_Lombardy
0.04893491 Spanish_Valencia
0.04911443 Italian_Umbria
0.04912274 Spanish_Canarias
0.04916015 Spanish_Penedes
0.04951256 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha

Distance to: Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022051__AD_478__Cov_27.36%
0.02915857 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.03119435 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03242833 Spanish_Galicia
0.03280096 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03373182 Spanish_Valencia
0.03452015 Spanish_Murcia
0.03466939 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03479581 Portuguese
0.03487372 Spanish_Asturias
0.03577996 Spanish_Menorca
0.03615100 Spanish_Barcelones
0.03618224 Spanish_Alacant
0.03627746 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03644295 Spanish_Aragon
0.03680245 Spanish_Extremadura
0.03714660 Spanish_Navarra
0.03777481 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03853648 Spanish_Cataluna
0.03873075 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03951543 Spanish_Lleida
0.04024025 Spanish_Baleares
0.04025384 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04035881 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04036334 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04070907 Italian_Liguria

Distance to: Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022052__AD_718__Cov_15.24%
0.04300989 Spanish_Canarias
0.04872188 Portuguese
0.04879881 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.05122258 Spanish_Galicia
0.05142934 Spanish_Andalucia
0.05346296 Spanish_Extremadura
0.05433814 Spanish_Asturias
0.05551821 Spanish_Murcia
0.05586730 Italian_Liguria
0.05601259 Spanish_Eivissa
0.05665623 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.05754166 Spanish_Menorca
0.05774183 Spanish_Alacant
0.05943739 Spanish_Valencia
0.05960039 Spanish_Baleares
0.05990588 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.06008987 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.06069737 Italian_Emilia
0.06097064 Spanish_Mallorca
0.06112985 Spanish_Cantabria
0.06151368 Spanish_Cataluna
0.06180454 Spanish_Aragon
0.06182302 Italian_Lombardy
0.06222614 Italian_Piedmont
0.06238416 Swiss_Italian

Distance to: Spain_Madrid_Visigoth-MigrationPeriod:CGG022053__AD_624__Cov_26.74%
0.03843646 French_Provence
0.03872926 Swiss_French
0.03874608 French_Alsace
0.03890858 Swiss_German
0.03934807 French_Nord
0.03989062 BelgianB
0.03991760 Afrikaner
0.04095574 French_Paris
0.04100329 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04114828 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04132760 French_Auvergne
0.04155410 BelgianC
0.04258658 Italian_Northeast
0.04277570 Austrian
0.04338241 French_Occitanie
0.04367300 Montenegrin
0.04429981 Romanian
0.04490584 Spanish_Penedes
0.04514758 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04604229 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04643547 Spanish_Girona
0.04674306 German_Erlangen
0.04702801 BelgianA
0.04713831 Moldovan
0.04732544 German

Distance to: Spain_Menorca_Visigoth-LateRoman_MigrationPeriod:CGG022041__AD_283__Cov_2 8.23%
0.03555394 Portuguese
0.03675460 Spanish_Extremadura
0.03753344 Spanish_Murcia
0.03818698 French_Corsica
0.03911103 Swiss_Italian
0.03937805 Italian_Tuscany
0.03952893 Italian_Piedmont
0.03997543 Italian_Emilia
0.04045822 Spanish_Andalucia
0.04111930 Spanish_Baleares
0.04113920 Spanish_Galicia
0.04117898 Spanish_Canarias
0.04158996 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04163826 Spanish_Eivissa
0.04206258 Italian_Lombardy
0.04219596 Spanish_Alacant
0.04239950 Spanish_Menorca
0.04282995 Italian_Liguria
0.04368629 Italian_Umbria
0.04381176 Italian_Bergamo
0.04388218 Italian_Veneto
0.04432444 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.04532762 Spanish_Penedes
0.04553565 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.04570980 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

Distance to: Portugal_Estremadura_Visigothic_Medieval:CGG018558 __AD_797__Cov_80.49%
0.02661337 Spanish_Canarias
0.02927606 Spanish_Extremadura
0.02996315 Portuguese
0.03429111 Spanish_Galicia
0.03489765 Spanish_Murcia
0.03499648 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03639384 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.03891718 Spanish_Alacant
0.04049187 Spanish_Cantabria
0.04142553 Spanish_Cataluna
0.04167431 Spanish_Eivissa
0.04197598 Spanish_Baleares
0.04267435 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.04274678 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04289265 Spanish_Valencia
0.04295913 Spanish_Menorca
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Distance to: Spain_Visigoth:I12031
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If I'm not mistaken there was a half Armenian/Persian Visigothic king? The old Germanics mostly assimilated and represented a small elite, England excepting because they saw more and more Saxons coming in with more and more resistance from Britons before the remainder were pushed to Wales/Cornwall.

[Lurgori]

Yeah the Goths formed in the area around the Vistula, tho originaly from southern sweden. From southeast Poland down the Dniester and all the way to crimea.
Majority of ethnicaly polish of nowadays that are under J are J2b2a1 a yamnaya marker (some ostrogoths ancient samples have it). At the time goths expanded south they met proto celtic , dacian and panonian groups that likely harbored more "southern" lineages than early or later western slavs did such as J2a wich is mostly anatolian farmer in origin or also E1b-V13 wich has been found in visigoth samples from Catalonia.

[Athalafuns]

Disparate demographic impacts of the Roman Colonization and the Migration Period in the Iberian Peninsula (Carrión et al., 2024):


The influence of CNE [Central-Northern European] ancestry becomes stronger from the early 5th century CE onwards at specific sites. [...] We count 35 individuals in our dataset who date to such a timeframe and cultural context. In this necropolis, we detect 14 individuals with 27-86% CNE-like ancestry, but no individual can be modeled using this ancestry as the only source (the other 21 individuals do not present such ancestry signal). Unlike the Goths that entered the Roman Balkan peninsula in the 4th century, we do not detect Sarmatian-like ancestry (Olalde et al., 2023). The absence of un-admixed CNE individuals is also striking, indicating that Germanic groups mixed with local people; for example, seven individuals carried 12-61% of the local Iberian Iron age-like signal, further implying admixture of the migrant people groups with the local population.

The Visigoths' genetic diversity does not rule out Scandinavian ancestry. For instance, a Visigothic woman from the later period retained 15% ancestry from the early Goths (Wielbark culture). This indicates some ethnic preservation even long after intermarriages were permitted.

Target: Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777
Distance: 1.8965% / 0.01896496 | ADC: 0.5x RC
23.6 Austria_Klosterneuburg_Roman.SG:R10659.SG__AD_87__ Cov_70.92%
19.6 Serbia_ViminaciumGrobalja:I15521__AD_194__Cov_18.2 1%
16.2 Spain_IA:I3320
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12.8 Spain_IA:I3321
12.8 Italy_IsolaSacra_RomanImperial_oEurope.SG:R11121.S G__AD_200__Cov_58.20%


Dohijo (2017) suggests that Visigothic women were likely the primary transmitters of ethnic identity and key preservers of their distinctive legacy. See: Ethicity of the "gens gothorum spaniae", and its "material culture" associated, a position and a proposal as resereach´s way (https://oppidum.es/oppidum-13-pdf/opp13.10_dohijo_la.etnicidad.de.la%20gens.gothorum .spaniae.pdf).

[R1b-L51]

Yeah the Goths formed in the area around the Vistula, tho originaly from southern sweden. From southeast Poland down the Dniester and all the way to crimea.
Majority of ethnicaly polish of nowadays that are under J are J2b2a1 a yamnaya marker (some ostrogoths ancient samples have it). At the time goths expanded south they met proto celtic , dacian and panonian groups that likely harbored more "southern" lineages than early or later western slavs did such as J2a wich is mostly anatolian farmer in origin or also E1b-V13 wich has been found in visigoth samples from Catalonia.

In fact, they were very mixed barbarians. I have even found a sample of Visigoth from Catalonia that literally seems Gypsy or Pakistani. If you want, I can look for it for you.

[Gannicus]

If I'm not mistaken there was a half Armenian/Persian Visigothic king? The old Germanics mostly assimilated and represented a small elite, England excepting because they saw more and more Saxons coming in with more and more resistance from Britons before the remainder were pushed to Wales/Cornwall.

The Celtic Britons were not completely replaced. Some did flee to Cornwall, Wales and Brittany. A large portion just assimilated into the Germanic culture. This is what happened in a similar fashion with Egypt. In the 7th century Arabs conquered Egypt at around the same time as the Anglo-Saxons were finishing their conquest of mainly what is today England. This isn't a perfect 1:1 comparison. The genetic studies indicate that all foreign occupations of Egypt had a relatively low genetic impact on the population.

[R1b-L51]

THE GERMANIC VISIGOTHIC ROMA



In fact, they were very mixed barbarians. I have even found a sample of Visigoth from Catalonia that literally seems Gypsy or Pakistani. If you want, I can look for it for you.

The SAMPLE I12029 TheVisigoth who was Roma/ Gypsy from Barcelona

https://i.postimg.cc/9Rc7bgY0/IMG-20241010-WA0038.jpg (https://postimg.cc/9Rc7bgY0)

https://i.postimg.cc/rRmtXdbL/IMG-20241010-WA0040.jpg (https://postimg.cc/rRmtXdbL)

https://i.postimg.cc/tZDVMdB5/IMG-20241010-WA0042.jpg (https://postimg.cc/tZDVMdB5)


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Target: I12029
Distance: 2.5646% / 0.02564558
36.2 Nordic_BETA_GlobularAmphora
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4.0 Ust_Ishim
2.6 Negritoid_isolated_SIGMA_GreatAndaman_100BP
0.8 Silvid_CHAD_Kennewick
0.2 AtlantoMed_SIGMA_Portugal_C

Target: I12029
Distance: 2.9041% / 0.02904128 | R5P
49.2 Nordic_BETA_GlobularAmphora
18.2 Iranid_CHAD_Iran_C_TepeHissar
15.4 Irano-cromagnoid_CHUD_Yamnaya_Russia
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5.0 Negritoid_isolated_SIGMA_GreatAndaman_100BP

Target: I12029
Distance: 3.4620% / 0.03462039 | R4P
44.8 Mediterranean_CHAD_Balkan_neolithic
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22.4 Iranid_CHAD_Iran_C_TepeHissar
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[RyoHazuki]

The Celtic Britons were not completely replaced. Some did flee to Cornwall, Wales and Brittany. A large portion just assimilated into the Germanic culture. This is what happened in a similar fashion with Egypt. In the 7th century Arabs conquered Egypt at around the same time as the Anglo-Saxons were finishing their conquest of mainly what is today England. This isn't a perfect 1:1 comparison. The genetic studies indicate that all foreign occupations of Egypt had a relatively low genetic impact on the population.

I dont mean to suggest the Saxons replaced the Britons, but the Saxons didn't assimilate into British culture, as much as the Britons either needed to assimilate or flee.

[Gannicus]

I dont mean to suggest the Saxons replaced the Britons, but the Saxons didn't assimilate into British culture, as much as the Britons either needed to assimilate or flee.

ah, ok. I slightly misunderstood what you were saying. The idea that the Anglo-Saxons completely replaced the Britons was a popular theory for awhile.