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Ajeje Brazorf
04-21-2025, 09:50 AM
https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB88022


On July 1, 1676, the warship Kronan sank in the Baltic Sea off the southern coast of Öland. Over 800 sailors and soldiers went down with her. At the time, Kronan was Sweden's largest ship and one of the largest ships in the world. The sinking of Kronan, along with the subsequent loss of the naval battle, was, of course, a true catastrophe for Sweden. Today, we must still be aware that Kronan is a burial site for many hundreds of the deceased, but it is also a rich archaeological site that we use to understand 17th-century Northern Europe. One of the projects conducted as part of the Kronaninvestigations is the recreation of one of the crew members. With the help of osteology, genetics, and a skilled sculptor working at the intersection of science and art, we have been able to recreate the face of a crew member in what we believe is a credible and fact-based way. The face, along with the skeletal material it is based on, is now on display at Kalmar County Museum. It allows us to come closer to a sailor from the 1600s than we could have ever imagined just a few years ago.

https://kalmarlansmuseum.se/press/ansiktsrekonstruktion-vacker-besattningsman-pa-kronan-till-liv/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronan_(ship)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_%C3%96land

Ajeje Brazorf
04-21-2025, 09:51 AM
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Distance to: Sweden_Öland_KronanShipwreck_EarlyModern:kro016__A D_1650__Cov_?
0.02401988 German_East_(n=14)
0.02515272 rothaer_scaled
0.02580784 rothaer_mother_scaled
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0.02758995 German_Hamburg_(n=16)
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0.02773064 rothaer_maternal_grandmother-in-law_scaled
0.02779509 Swedish_(n=113)
0.02813034 rothaer_child2_scaled
0.02816436 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Mixed _Norse-Balto-Slavic_Profile)_(n=3)
0.02827133 German_Mecklenburg_(n=5)
0.02830204 Sweden_Viking.SG:vik_grt036.SG__AD_1080__Cov_83.72 %
0.02842668 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_(Mixed_Norse-Balto-Slavic_Profile)_(n=2)
0.02847377 Danish_443
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0.02883152 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Zealand_(Norse_P rofile)_(n=7)
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0.02890945 Swedish_Sweden9
0.02893037 Denmark_High_Medieval_Copenhagen_(n=13)
0.02895853 Poland_LIA_Wielbark_Kowalewko_(n=22)
0.02913692 Russia_Viking.SG:VK219.SG__AD_1000__Cov_82.14%
0.02917848 Denmark_Medieval.SG:CGG100679.SG__AD_1325__Cov_63. 55%
0.02920901 boilermeschew827_scaled
0.02925028 Sweden_south_Pre_Viking.SG:snb014.SG__AD_475__Cov_ 98.45%
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0.02930158 rothaer_child8_scaled
0.02937571 Denmark_Viking.SG:VK294.SG__AD_875__Cov_68.98%
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0.02952368 Swedish_GSM1884845
0.02956121 Denmark_Medieval.SG:CGG100415.SG__AD_1425__Cov_80. 02%
0.02963361 Sweden_central_Late_Viking.SG:als010.SG__AD_975__C ov_21.80%
0.02964005 England_EarlyMedieval_Saxon.AG:I3044.AG__AD_1094__ Cov_65.21%
0.02966078 Sweden_Early_Modern_Kalmar_(Mixed_Nordic-Balto-Slavic_Profile)_(n=1)
0.02969849 German_GRC10044044_German01
0.02974758 rothaer_friend_SGR_scaled
0.02980144 Czech_(n=21)

cass
04-21-2025, 10:15 AM
Distance to: German_Mecklenburg_Center_East
0.02944895 Sweden_Öland_KronanShipwreck_EarlyModern:kro016__A D_1650__Cov_?

Distance to: German_Brandenburg
0.02181518 Sweden_Öland_KronanShipwreck_EarlyModern:kro016__A D_1650__Cov_?


Distance to: cass
0.03047337 Sweden_Öland_KronanShipwreck_EarlyModern:kro016__A D_1650__Cov_?

He looks more like a mercenary from Brandenburg than a native of Swedish Pomerania/Mecklenburg.

Ajeje Brazorf
04-21-2025, 10:30 AM
Y-DNA: I-L22
mtDNA: J1c8a

Source: https://www.theytree.com/sample/b930639ac0e4d2aeff85a58464578414.html

unmoggable
04-21-2025, 07:58 PM
Distance to: unmoggable
0.04951695 Sweden_Öland_KronanShipwreck_EarlyModern:kro016__A D_1650__Cov_?

ScandinavianCelt
04-21-2025, 10:51 PM
this is where I fit into distance to this Kronan sample:


https://i.postimg.cc/T2FZ3jBq/kronan.jpg (https://postimg.cc/gryMMhzn)

King Camelot
04-21-2025, 11:24 PM
Hail, dear seeker of sagacity. Prithee, let us ponder the woeful plight of the illustrious Kronan, a grand vessel that erstwhile traversed the vast briny deep with valour and pride. Though its chronicle is steeped in calamity, it doth serve as a poignant reminder of the capricious hand of fate and the paramount virtue of resilience amidst tribulations. The valiant brethren, who once embraced the Kronan as their abode, are not consigned to oblivion, for their legacy endureth through the resplendent discoveries of learned archaeologists and erudite scholars.

As a sage of wisdom, I beseech thee to heed the annals of yore, to cherish the present, and to gaze upon the future with hope and steadfastness. May the narrative of the Kronan shine forth as a radiant beacon of inspiration, steering us to confront the vicissitudes of existence with mettle and fortitude. And let it ne'er escape our thoughts to render homage unto those who preceded us, for their memories stand as a cherished bounty, a testament to the undying spirit of mankind.

Gannicus
04-22-2025, 01:15 AM
Distance to: Sweden_Öland_KronanShipwreck_EarlyModern:kro016__A D_1650__Cov_?
0.02634742 German_Hamburg
0.02780410 Swedish
0.02864280 Czech
0.03155750 German_East
0.03251145 Danish
0.03440348 Norwegian
0.03542873 German_Erlangen
0.03599192 Polish_Silesian
0.03614886 German
0.03651229 Dutch
0.03703976 Slovakian
0.03808714 Icelandic
0.03896077 Hungarian
0.03979007 Polish
0.03979279 Polish_Kashubian
0.04041247 Shetlandic
0.04059044 Afrikaner
0.04074624 Orcadian
0.04081559 Austrian
0.04152135 Scottish
0.04159613 Welsh
0.04244670 English
0.04266568 Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.04306236 Slovenian
0.04358732 English_Cornwall
0.04359687 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.04389992 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.04459004 Irish
0.04578590 Croatian
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0.04653223 French_Brittany
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0.05367967 French_Alsace
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0.05560258 Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled

I'm in 50th place

Ajeje Brazorf
04-22-2025, 09:48 AM
These should be additional Kronan samples, but from a different paper.

Kronan (Kalmar County, Mörbylånga Municipality)


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Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro004.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_27.50%,0.118376,0.128972,0.070522,0.05168,0.02 739,0.015618,0.012221,0.011538,-0.003272,-0.004009,-0.000812,-0.00015,-0.008622,0.003028,0.007736,-0.002784,-0.018775,0.004814,-0.003771,0.002751,0.004617,0.013602,-0.005176,0.009519,-0.003712
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Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro010.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_25.91%,0.127482,0.119832,0.075424,0.060078,0.0 36622,0.031515,0.002115,0.004846,0.001227,-0.008565,0.002761,-0.004946,0.003568,-0.001239,0.010043,0.00716,-0.012126,0.005701,0.008673,0.010005,0.008485,0.005 688,0.013064,0.006266,0.003592
Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro011.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_53.74%,0.129758,0.111708,0.082967,0.062985,0.0 36622,0.02259,0.010105,0.011769,0.000818,-0.014397,-0.004384,0.001349,0.000446,-0.005643,0.009365,0.004906,-0.006258,0.006334,0.008799,0.005378,-0.000998,0.006306,0.000246,0.003494,0.005029
Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro012.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_28.76%,0.132035,0.127957,0.070144,0.070091,0.0 35083,0.020638,0.013161,0,0.003681,-0.016401,-0.009581,0.003747,-0.003865,-0.010046,0.024294,0.013126,-0.009388,0.005828,-0.002263,0.000875,0.015722,-0.000247,0.001849,0.014821,0.005269
Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro013.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_98.42%,0.126344,0.128972,0.066373,0.057494,0.0 46162,0.022311,0.00611,0.006,0.011453,-0.008383,-0.003735,-0.002248,0.007284,-0.006055,0.003122,0.00053,-0.006128,0.008742,0.003017,0.002126,0.002246,0.004 699,0.006039,0.001084,0.000479
Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro014.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_19.86%,0.136588,0.108662,0.07467,0.057817,0.02 3697,0.015339,0.00047,-0.001385,0.007158,-0.01385,-0.000812,-0.000599,0.003419,-0.010046,0.002579,0.009414,0.003651,0.010008,-0.00088,0.008754,0.014225,-0.001731,-0.0053,0.01928,-0.005269
Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro015.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_29.34%,0.129758,0.141159,0.070144,0.054264,0.0 39392,0.020638,0.00094,0.000462,0.00409,-0.00328,-0.002436,0.002098,0.003122,0.005092,0.027687,0.000 398,-0.022426,0.005321,0.013073,-0.001126,0.004617,0.004822,0.007395,0.005543,-0.009221
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Gannicus
04-22-2025, 02:10 PM
Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.04934335 Sweden_South_Post_Medieval.SG:kro008_viking.SG__AD _1676__Cov_28.78%
0.05169089 Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro015.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_29.34%
0.05427934 Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro013.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_98.42%
0.05470999 Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro012.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_28.76%
0.05560258 Sweden_Öland_KronanShipwreck_EarlyModern:kro016__A D_1676__Cov_95.85%
0.05561596 Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro004.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_27.50%
0.05708357 Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro001.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_30.95%
0.06110996 Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro010.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_25.91%
0.06197009 Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro014.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_19.86%
0.06254337 Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro002.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_14.52%
0.06488794 Sweden_south_Post_Medieval.SG:kro011.SG__AD_1676__ Cov_53.74%
0.10060708 Sweden_South_Post_Medieval.SG:kro009_viking.SG__AD _1676__Cov_44.39%


Distance to: Sweden_South_Post_Medieval.SG:kro009_viking.SG__AD _1676__Cov_44.39%
0.02788251 Moksha
0.02864154 Russian_Kostroma
0.02941209 Erzya
0.03064664 Russian_Tver
0.03197594 Russian_Krasnoborsky
0.03346582 Ingrian
0.03417916 Russian_Ryazan
0.03458388 Cossack_Kuban
0.03683039 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.03723210 Russian_Kursk

AndreiDNA
04-22-2025, 04:28 PM
https://youtu.be/Qm1hjg8aqVs