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reboun
04-24-2025, 03:17 PM
In terms of DNA, are Anatolian Turks mostly a mix of pre-Turkic Anatolians and Oghuz Turks or do they have other admixtures (such as Eastern European, Levantine, Caucasian or even peninsular Arabian) in significant levels?

Narration
04-25-2025, 10:16 PM
You can ask such question to ChatGPT for free. Its software has access to scholars on numerous topics.

Here is the answer of ChatGPT for your question:

The genetic makeup of modern Anatolian Turks is indeed complex and reflects a rich tapestry of historical migrations and interactions. While the dominant ancestry is a mix of pre-Turkic Anatolians and Oghuz Turkic migrants, several other components contribute to the gene pool in significant yet varying degrees. Here's a breakdown:

�� Main Genetic Components of Anatolian Turks
1. Pre-Turkic Anatolian (Major Component)
This includes Byzantine Greeks, Armenians, Phrygians, Hittites, and other ancient Anatolian populations.

Genetically close to other Eastern Mediterranean peoples like Greeks, Armenians, Georgians, and Levantines.

Makes up the largest portion of Anatolian Turkish DNA (typically estimated at 60–75%).

2. Oghuz Turkic (Central Asian)
Ancestors of the Seljuk Turks who began arriving around the 11th century.

Makes up about 5–15% of the modern gene pool, depending on region and methodology.

Related to modern Turkmens, Uzbeks, and Kazakhs, but with dilution over time due to mixing with local populations.

�� Other Admixtures Present in Anatolian Turks
3. Caucasian
Especially from the northeast (e.g., Circassians, Georgians, Laz).

Due to both ancient ties and more recent migrations, especially during the Ottoman-Russian wars.

Contributes noticeably, particularly in the northeast and central parts of Turkey.

4. Levantine
Includes connections to Syrians, Lebanese, Palestinians.

Likely due to both ancient ties (Roman, Byzantine, Hellenistic periods) and Ottoman-era mobility.

Minor but present, more pronounced in southern Turkey.

5. Balkan / Eastern European
Due to Ottoman expansion into the Balkans and later population exchanges and migrations (e.g., Pomaks, Bosniaks, Albanians, Bulgarians).

Genetic traces in western and northwestern Anatolia, especially around Istanbul and Edirne.

6. Peninsular Arabian
Relatively minor, though present in small amounts.

Likely due to Ottoman-era movements, trade, and religious pilgrimages.

Some genetic overlap with Levantine and Mesopotamian ancestry.

�� Regional Differences
Eastern Anatolia: More Caucasus and Armenian influence.

Western Anatolia: More Balkan and Aegean influence.

Southern Turkey: Greater Levantine and occasionally Arabian admixture.

Central Anatolia: Tends to reflect more Oghuz Turkic and deep Anatolian ancestry.

�� Summary Estimate (approximate, for illustrative purposes)

Ancestry % Range
Pre-Turkic Anatolian 60–75%
Oghuz Turkic (Central Asian) 5–15%
Caucasian (Georgian, Circassian, etc.) 5–10%
Balkan / Eastern European 5–10%
Levantine 2–5%
Peninsular Arabian 1–3%

Ahmet
04-25-2025, 10:42 PM
You can ask such question to ChatGPT for free. Its software has access to scholars on numerous topics.

Here is the answer of ChatGPT for your question:

The genetic makeup of modern Anatolian Turks is indeed complex and reflects a rich tapestry of historical migrations and interactions. While the dominant ancestry is a mix of pre-Turkic Anatolians and Oghuz Turkic migrants, several other components contribute to the gene pool in significant yet varying degrees. Here's a breakdown:

�� Main Genetic Components of Anatolian Turks
1. Pre-Turkic Anatolian (Major Component)
This includes Byzantine Greeks, Armenians, Phrygians, Hittites, and other ancient Anatolian populations.

Genetically close to other Eastern Mediterranean peoples like Greeks, Armenians, Georgians, and Levantines.

Makes up the largest portion of Anatolian Turkish DNA (typically estimated at 60–75%).

2. Oghuz Turkic (Central Asian)
Ancestors of the Seljuk Turks who began arriving around the 11th century.

Makes up about 5–15% of the modern gene pool, depending on region and methodology.

Related to modern Turkmens, Uzbeks, and Kazakhs, but with dilution over time due to mixing with local populations.

�� Other Admixtures Present in Anatolian Turks
3. Caucasian
Especially from the northeast (e.g., Circassians, Georgians, Laz).

Due to both ancient ties and more recent migrations, especially during the Ottoman-Russian wars.

Contributes noticeably, particularly in the northeast and central parts of Turkey.

4. Levantine
Includes connections to Syrians, Lebanese, Palestinians.

Likely due to both ancient ties (Roman, Byzantine, Hellenistic periods) and Ottoman-era mobility.

Minor but present, more pronounced in southern Turkey.

5. Balkan / Eastern European
Due to Ottoman expansion into the Balkans and later population exchanges and migrations (e.g., Pomaks, Bosniaks, Albanians, Bulgarians).

Genetic traces in western and northwestern Anatolia, especially around Istanbul and Edirne.

6. Peninsular Arabian
Relatively minor, though present in small amounts.

Likely due to Ottoman-era movements, trade, and religious pilgrimages.

Some genetic overlap with Levantine and Mesopotamian ancestry.

�� Regional Differences
Eastern Anatolia: More Caucasus and Armenian influence.

Western Anatolia: More Balkan and Aegean influence.

Southern Turkey: Greater Levantine and occasionally Arabian admixture.

Central Anatolia: Tends to reflect more Oghuz Turkic and deep Anatolian ancestry.

�� Summary Estimate (approximate, for illustrative purposes)

Ancestry % Range
Pre-Turkic Anatolian 60–75%
Oghuz Turkic (Central Asian) 5–15%
Caucasian (Georgian, Circassian, etc.) 5–10%
Balkan / Eastern European 5–10%
Levantine 2–5%
Peninsular Arabian 1–3%

Don't trust ChatGPT for this kind of thing.

Central Asian ancestry is between 0-50%, not 5-15%. Besides that, ChatGPT claims Central Anatolia reflects more Turkic influences, and Western Anatolia is more Balkan and Aegean, which is not true, Western Anatolia is more Turkic than the rest of the regions. Southern Anatolia might have some Levantine, but Peninsular Arabian does not exist in Anatolia.

Narration
04-25-2025, 10:47 PM
Don't trust ChatGPT for this kind of thing.

Central Asian ancestry is between 0-50%, not 5-15%. Besides that, ChatGPT claims Central Anatolia reflects more Turkic influences, and Western Anatolia is more Balkan and Aegean, which is not true, Western Anatolia is more Turkic than the rest of the regions. Southern Anatolia might have some Levantine, but Peninsular Arabian does not exist in Anatolia.

You are right. So, it seems like ChatGPT has collected this data from YouTube comments or such. :D

reboun
04-26-2025, 01:28 PM
Don't trust ChatGPT for this kind of thing.

Central Asian ancestry is between 0-50%, not 5-15%. Besides that, ChatGPT claims Central Anatolia reflects more Turkic influences, and Western Anatolia is more Balkan and Aegean, which is not true, Western Anatolia is more Turkic than the rest of the regions. Southern Anatolia might have some Levantine, but Peninsular Arabian does not exist in Anatolia.

Chatgpt is correct. There are lots of Turks of Balkan origin in Western and Northwestern Türkiye. They live in these provinces for generations and are seen as a part of Turkish society. On the other hand, Central Türkiye is more Turkic then Western and Northwestern Türkiye since they did not receive as much immigration from Balkans and Caucasus.

Opie
04-26-2025, 02:04 PM
Central Türkiye is more Turkic then Western and Northwestern Türkiye since they did not receive as much immigration from Balkans and Caucasus.

They are not.

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