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Figaro
05-16-2025, 04:48 PM
Do not mention if you already know (I've briefly mentioned it in a couple of calculator threads in the past)...what would you guess my buddy and bandmate's ancestry based off of some random recent G25 calculators? Please recommend anything else you'd like to see results for...

YDNA: R1b-L226
mtDNA: H

Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 1.6915% / 0.01691485 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.0 British_Isles
22.6 caesarsalad_scaled
22.4 Germany&Netherlands
17.0 French


World Ancient
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 2.7557% / 0.02755745
67.6 Ireland_Ancient
16.6 Latium
12.6 Illyrian_Thracian_Ancient
3.2 Sardinia_Ancient

Northern Refinement
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 2.5909% / 0.02590886 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.8 N.Irish.Mixed50.ScottishN.Highlands50
18.2 Catalan75.OccitanieAlpesCoed'AzurFrench25
16.6 Thrace50.Bulgarian50
5.4 Irish75.Bulgarian25

Euro Calc
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 19.5606% / 0.19560572
67.2 Asian
22.4 East-Med
9.4 Iberian
1.0 Slavic


Tiny British Calculator
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 3.5435% / 0.03543492
36.6 Continental
35.6 Insular-Celtic
27.8 Germanic

European Medieval
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 1.3909% / 0.01390942 | R5P
29.8 Austria_Austria_Avar
28.8 Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval_oAfrica2
23.2 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
11.8 Germany_Lauchheim_EarlyMedieval
6.4 Sweden_Sigtuna_cemetery_4_Götes_mack_Viking_Age_Si gtuna

Bell Beaker+Neolithic Calc
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 3.2038% / 0.03203840 | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.8 Bell_Beaker
14.2 Greco-Roman_Neolithic

3800BC-2800BC Indo-Euro Invasion
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 1.9263% / 0.01926254
31.0 Latvia_LN_CordedWare
18.4 France_South_LN
11.2 Poland_N_FBC_Slonowice
10.0 Czechia_CordedWare
7.8 Poland_Globular_Amphora
7.4 Turkey_Ikiztepe_LC
5.8 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
5.2 France_LN_South
3.2 Montenegro_LN_Hvar_possible

Steppe-WHG-EEF
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 6.3773% / 0.06377342 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.2 Turkey_N
41.6 Russia_Steppe_Eneolithic
14.2 Luxembourg_Loschbour.DG

Highwayman
05-16-2025, 05:40 PM
Did you talk to her for over five minutes?

drb234
05-16-2025, 05:48 PM
British Isles or French

Figaro
05-16-2025, 05:50 PM
Did you talk to her for over five minutes?

…huh?

Highwayman
05-16-2025, 06:13 PM
…huh?

Meade reference

Figaro
05-16-2025, 06:28 PM
He is partly British/Irish

Edit: was supposed to quote drb.

Wend-Kruzek
05-16-2025, 06:54 PM
Well, I guess I'll end up in Ireland with this Y-DNA.
And maybe he didn't even get there. ;) But the roads are unpredictable.
I based it on ANF-Steppe-WHG

Best Modern Matches
Modern Population EEF (%) Steppe (%) WHG (%) Notes & Sources
Central Germans (DEU) ~44 ~42 ~14 Matches 44.2/41.6/14.2 split; Central/Northern DEU Steppe 38.8–50.4 %
Dutch (NLD) ~42 ~45 ~13 NW Europeans: Steppe ~40–54 %; EEF ~40–50 %; WHG ~10–20 %
Austrians (AUT) ~45 ~40 ~15 Alpine Europeans: similar tri‑component balance
Northern French (FRA) ~47 ~38 ~15 Western fringe shows slightly higher EEF, lower Steppe
Swiss (CHE) ~43 ~41 ~16 Central‑Alpine averages overlap German profiles
Geographic Interpretation
Central Germany (e.g. Hesse, Thuringia, Saxony): a near‑perfect genetic match to your sample proportions.
Neighboring Low Countries (Netherlands, Belgium) share very similar Steppe vs. farmer balances.
Austria–Switzerland: the Alpine cline shifts slightly toward more farmer ancestry but remains within ±3 % of your values.

I'm curious AI

nice day

Figaro
05-16-2025, 07:03 PM
Well, I guess I'll end up in Ireland with this Y-DNA.
And maybe he didn't even get there. ;) But the roads are unpredictable.
I based it on ANF-Steppe-WHG

Best Modern Matches
Modern Population EEF (%) Steppe (%) WHG (%) Notes & Sources
Central Germans (DEU) ~44 ~42 ~14 Matches 44.2/41.6/14.2 split; Central/Northern DEU Steppe 38.8–50.4 %
Dutch (NLD) ~42 ~45 ~13 NW Europeans: Steppe ~40–54 %; EEF ~40–50 %; WHG ~10–20 %
Austrians (AUT) ~45 ~40 ~15 Alpine Europeans: similar tri‑component balance
Northern French (FRA) ~47 ~38 ~15 Western fringe shows slightly higher EEF, lower Steppe
Swiss (CHE) ~43 ~41 ~16 Central‑Alpine averages overlap German profiles
Geographic Interpretation
Central Germany (e.g. Hesse, Thuringia, Saxony): a near‑perfect genetic match to your sample proportions.
Neighboring Low Countries (Netherlands, Belgium) share very similar Steppe vs. farmer balances.
Austria–Switzerland: the Alpine cline shifts slightly toward more farmer ancestry but remains within ±3 % of your values.

nice day

Very cool analysis!

His ancestry as he was always told is Irish, Scottish, English and German. Based off 23andme regions plus Davidskis initial analysis, a lot or all of that German may be Swiss. He was born and raised in far southern Virginia.

Wend-Kruzek
05-16-2025, 07:24 PM
Very cool analysis!

His ancestry as he was always told is Irish, Scottish, English and German. Based off 23andme regions plus Davidskis initial analysis, a lot or all of that German may be Swiss. He was born and raised in far southern Virginia.

Well the AI has shifted, it doesn't always fit , but it's worth a try

nice day Virginia;)

Figaro
05-16-2025, 09:25 PM
Some gedmatch result basics-

Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 48.25
2 Baltic 18.57
3 West_Med 16.17
4 West_Asian 7.76
5 East_Med 6.91
6 South_Asian 1.26


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Dutch @ 5.695872
2 Southeast_English @ 6.885745
3 West_German @ 6.935229
4 Southwest_English @ 7.418040
5 French @ 8.493790
6 Orcadian @ 9.197407
7 Irish @ 9.711036
8 West_Scottish @ 9.764445
9 North_Dutch @ 10.604161
10 Danish @ 10.798018
11 North_German @ 11.034888
12 Norwegian @ 13.488769
13 Swedish @ 15.625525
14 Spanish_Cataluna @ 15.671444
15 Austrian @ 16.038099
16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 17.232264
17 East_German @ 17.640234
18 Southwest_French @ 17.756180
19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 17.832188
20 Spanish_Galicia @ 17.853045

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French +50% West_Scottish @ 3.834519


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% Spanish_Andalucia +25% West_German @ 3.288238


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 North_Italian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.169608
2 Spanish_Andalucia + West_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.187331
3 Irish + Spanish_Andalucia + West_German + West_Scottish @ 3.222630
4 Irish + North_Italian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.235628
5 North_Italian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.273683
6 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Andalucia + West_German @ 3.288238
7 North_Italian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.318680
8 Irish + North_Italian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.342487
9 Irish + Irish + North_Italian + Southwest_English @ 3.343065
10 Irish + South_Dutch + Spanish_Andalucia + West_Scottish @ 3.355506
11 South_Dutch + Spanish_Andalucia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.364927
12 Irish + North_Italian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.378571
13 Tuscan + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.387258
14 Irish + Irish + South_Dutch + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.394182
15 North_Italian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.403287
16 Southwest_English + Tuscan + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.415479
17 Spanish_Cataluna + West_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.439104
18 Irish + Irish + North_Italian + West_Scottish @ 3.451395
19 North_Italian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.464286
20 Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German + West_Scottish @ 3.472252

Eurogenes K15

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 34.09
2 Atlantic 27.04
3 West_Med 13.09
4 Baltic 9.39
5 West_Asian 5.85
6 Eastern_Euro 5.04
7 East_Med 3.89
8 South_Asian 1.24


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_English @ 5.293936
2 South_Dutch @ 6.413014
3 Southeast_English @ 6.997667
4 West_German @ 7.038028
5 French @ 7.857128
6 Irish @ 9.107668
7 North_Dutch @ 9.471864
8 Orcadian @ 9.635213
9 North_German @ 9.657823
10 West_Scottish @ 9.751781
11 Danish @ 10.199553
12 Norwegian @ 13.041004
13 West_Norwegian @ 13.838202
14 Swedish @ 14.220258
15 East_German @ 15.423145
16 Spanish_Galicia @ 16.357424
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 16.438520
18 North_Swedish @ 17.592794
19 Portuguese @ 17.657215
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 17.903381

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French +50% Orcadian @ 3.750705


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% West_German @ 3.510263


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 North_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.450243
2 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German @ 3.510263
3 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_German @ 3.535312
4 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German @ 3.557729
5 French + French + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.635178
6 French + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_German @ 3.650825
7 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_German @ 3.686712
8 North_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.693933
9 Orcadian + Orcadian + Portuguese + West_German @ 3.723076
10 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria + West_German @ 3.734502
11 French + French + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.750705
12 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German @ 3.778500
13 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia + West_German @ 3.778768
14 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia + West_German @ 3.785634
15 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Andalucia + West_German @ 3.787459
16 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German @ 3.795395
17 North_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 3.800349
18 North_Dutch + North_Italian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.803946
19 Irish + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German @ 3.809686
20 French + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German @ 3.821064


Eurogenes K36
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 4.64 Pct
Basque 1.02 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.75 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.47 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.94 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 1.92 Pct
Fennoscandian 8.75 Pct
French 6.15 Pct
Iberian 17.81 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.29 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 15.38 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.33 Pct
North_Sea 15.11 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 0.35 Pct
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.4 Pct
West_Med 3.65 Pct

Figaro
05-16-2025, 10:23 PM
I think he shows a particular kind of southern shift that can't exclusively be explained by Swiss German ancestry (yes they have more EEF than other Germans, but...), since Swiss Germans are about the same as Southern Germans in Germany...I think there is some other Swiss in there (those pops shift slightly south of Swiss Germans).

Incidentally: While I have not seen his 23andMe with recent updates, I know when he showed me his initial result, he indeed received a Swiss canton: Grisons

JerryS.
05-17-2025, 01:06 PM
I think he shows a particular kind of southern shift that can't exclusively be explained by Swiss German ancestry (yes they have more EEF than other Germans, but...), since Swiss Germans are about the same as Southern Germans in Germany...I think there is some other Swiss in there (those pops shift slightly south of Swiss Germans).

Incidentally: While I have not seen his 23andMe with recent updates, I know when he showed me his initial result, he indeed received a Swiss canton: Grisons

Run his G25 against the thread with TA members. Remove the American Canadian group because they're mixed with whatever.

Figaro
05-17-2025, 01:34 PM
Run his G25 against the thread with TA members. Remove the American Canadian group because they're mixed with whatever.

Distance to: giordanofriend
0.00000000 USA/Canada:CordedFriend
0.02663193 British_Isles:English:Norfolk(English)
0.02679908 Germany&Netherlands:Dutch:Kellebel(Dutch)
0.02796623 French:nicolas_henry_Dad(French)
0.02841229 USA/Canada:Mr.G_mom(German_American)
0.02874979 USA/Canada:dchicn(American)
0.03029015 British_Isles:English:Creoda_ff_Pauline(English)
0.03041652 French:Youenn(French_Breton)
0.03060792 Germany&Netherlands:Dutch:Kellebel_mother(South_Dutch)
0.03075355 British_Isles:English:Anglecynn_Father(English)
0.03100783 USA/Canada:Titane(French_Canadian)
0.03112494 French:Urheimat(French_Breton)
0.03130864 USA/Canada:DewslothDad(American)
0.03188306 DacoCeltic_scaled
0.03202605 British_Isles:British:Aroon1916father(Irish/English)
0.03224423 French:The_Lyonnist(French)
0.03228168 French:Xerxez_mother(North_French)
0.03290398 USA/Canada:Titane_mom(French_Canadian)
0.03326014 British_Isles:English:Anglecynn_Aunt(English)
0.03334913 USA/Canada:randwulf(American)
0.03369834 Germany&Netherlands:Dutch:Kellebel_grandmother(Dutch)
0.03384799 British_Isles:English:drb234(English)
0.03385870 USA/Canada:Calxpal(Canadian)
0.03400237 USA/Canada:Sea_Warrior(American)
0.03420210 French:Tolan(French_Northwest)

JerryS.
05-17-2025, 04:33 PM
Distance to: giordanofriend
0.00000000 USA/Canada:CordedFriend
0.02663193 British_Isles:English:Norfolk(English)
0.02679908 Germany&Netherlands:Dutch:Kellebel(Dutch)
0.02796623 French:nicolas_henry_Dad(French)
0.02841229 USA/Canada:Mr.G_mom(German_American)
0.02874979 USA/Canada:dchicn(American)
0.03029015 British_Isles:English:Creoda_ff_Pauline(English)
0.03041652 French:Youenn(French_Breton)
0.03060792 Germany&Netherlands:Dutch:Kellebel_mother(South_Dutch)
0.03075355 British_Isles:English:Anglecynn_Father(English)
0.03100783 USA/Canada:Titane(French_Canadian)
0.03112494 French:Urheimat(French_Breton)
0.03130864 USA/Canada:DewslothDad(American)
0.03188306 DacoCeltic_scaled
0.03202605 British_Isles:British:Aroon1916father(Irish/English)
0.03224423 French:The_Lyonnist(French)
0.03228168 French:Xerxez_mother(North_French)
0.03290398 USA/Canada:Titane_mom(French_Canadian)
0.03326014 British_Isles:English:Anglecynn_Aunt(English)
0.03334913 USA/Canada:randwulf(American)
0.03369834 Germany&Netherlands:Dutch:Kellebel_grandmother(Dutch)
0.03384799 British_Isles:English:drb234(English)
0.03385870 USA/Canada:Calxpal(Canadian)
0.03400237 USA/Canada:Sea_Warrior(American)
0.03420210 French:Tolan(French_Northwest)

That's just what his amalgam distance is closest to.

Get rid of the USA/Canada sources and run as 4P and then separate as ADC .25

Figaro
05-17-2025, 04:36 PM
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 1.6915% / 0.01691485 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.0 British_Isles
22.6 caesarsalad_scaled
22.4 Germany&Netherlands
17.0 French

Flashball
05-17-2025, 05:03 PM
Some gedmatch result basics-

Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 48.25
2 Baltic 18.57
3 West_Med 16.17
4 West_Asian 7.76
5 East_Med 6.91
6 South_Asian 1.26


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Dutch @ 5.695872
2 Southeast_English @ 6.885745
3 West_German @ 6.935229
4 Southwest_English @ 7.418040
5 French @ 8.493790
6 Orcadian @ 9.197407
7 Irish @ 9.711036
8 West_Scottish @ 9.764445
9 North_Dutch @ 10.604161
10 Danish @ 10.798018
11 North_German @ 11.034888
12 Norwegian @ 13.488769
13 Swedish @ 15.625525
14 Spanish_Cataluna @ 15.671444
15 Austrian @ 16.038099
16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 17.232264
17 East_German @ 17.640234
18 Southwest_French @ 17.756180
19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 17.832188
20 Spanish_Galicia @ 17.853045

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French +50% West_Scottish @ 3.834519


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% Spanish_Andalucia +25% West_German @ 3.288238


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 North_Italian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.169608
2 Spanish_Andalucia + West_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.187331
3 Irish + Spanish_Andalucia + West_German + West_Scottish @ 3.222630
4 Irish + North_Italian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.235628
5 North_Italian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.273683
6 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Andalucia + West_German @ 3.288238
7 North_Italian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.318680
8 Irish + North_Italian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.342487
9 Irish + Irish + North_Italian + Southwest_English @ 3.343065
10 Irish + South_Dutch + Spanish_Andalucia + West_Scottish @ 3.355506
11 South_Dutch + Spanish_Andalucia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.364927
12 Irish + North_Italian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.378571
13 Tuscan + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.387258
14 Irish + Irish + South_Dutch + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.394182
15 North_Italian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.403287
16 Southwest_English + Tuscan + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.415479
17 Spanish_Cataluna + West_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.439104
18 Irish + Irish + North_Italian + West_Scottish @ 3.451395
19 North_Italian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.464286
20 Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German + West_Scottish @ 3.472252

Eurogenes K15

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 34.09
2 Atlantic 27.04
3 West_Med 13.09
4 Baltic 9.39
5 West_Asian 5.85
6 Eastern_Euro 5.04
7 East_Med 3.89
8 South_Asian 1.24


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_English @ 5.293936
2 South_Dutch @ 6.413014
3 Southeast_English @ 6.997667
4 West_German @ 7.038028
5 French @ 7.857128
6 Irish @ 9.107668
7 North_Dutch @ 9.471864
8 Orcadian @ 9.635213
9 North_German @ 9.657823
10 West_Scottish @ 9.751781
11 Danish @ 10.199553
12 Norwegian @ 13.041004
13 West_Norwegian @ 13.838202
14 Swedish @ 14.220258
15 East_German @ 15.423145
16 Spanish_Galicia @ 16.357424
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 16.438520
18 North_Swedish @ 17.592794
19 Portuguese @ 17.657215
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 17.903381

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French +50% Orcadian @ 3.750705


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% West_German @ 3.510263


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 North_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.450243
2 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German @ 3.510263
3 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_German @ 3.535312
4 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German @ 3.557729
5 French + French + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.635178
6 French + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_German @ 3.650825
7 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_German @ 3.686712
8 North_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.693933
9 Orcadian + Orcadian + Portuguese + West_German @ 3.723076
10 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria + West_German @ 3.734502
11 French + French + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.750705
12 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German @ 3.778500
13 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia + West_German @ 3.778768
14 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia + West_German @ 3.785634
15 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Andalucia + West_German @ 3.787459
16 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German @ 3.795395
17 North_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 3.800349
18 North_Dutch + North_Italian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.803946
19 Irish + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German @ 3.809686
20 French + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German @ 3.821064


Eurogenes K36
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 4.64 Pct
Basque 1.02 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.75 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.47 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.94 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 1.92 Pct
Fennoscandian 8.75 Pct
French 6.15 Pct
Iberian 17.81 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.29 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 15.38 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.33 Pct
North_Sea 15.11 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 0.35 Pct
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.4 Pct
West_Med 3.65 Pct



For my northern french father


Population
North_Atlantic 51.99 Pct
Baltic 15.18 Pct
West_Med 17.65 Pct
West_Asian 4.01 Pct
East_Med 7.36 Pct
Red_Sea 0.56 Pct
South_Asian 0.07 Pct
East_Asian 1.73 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.82 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.62 Pct


Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.46 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.34 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.1 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 7.27 Pct
French 7.16 Pct
Iberian 23.53 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 13.62 Pct
Malayan 0.12 Pct
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 12.56 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.55 Pct
North_Sea 18.35 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.19 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.59 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.18 Pct

drb234
05-17-2025, 05:05 PM
Distance to: giordanofriend
0.00000000 USA/Canada:CordedFriend
0.02663193 British_Isles:English:Norfolk(English)
0.02679908 Germany&Netherlands:Dutch:Kellebel(Dutch)
0.02796623 French:nicolas_henry_Dad(French)
0.02841229 USA/Canada:Mr.G_mom(German_American)
0.02874979 USA/Canada:dchicn(American)
0.03029015 British_Isles:English:Creoda_ff_Pauline(English)
0.03041652 French:Youenn(French_Breton)
0.03060792 Germany&Netherlands:Dutch:Kellebel_mother(South_Dutch)
0.03075355 British_Isles:English:Anglecynn_Father(English)
0.03100783 USA/Canada:Titane(French_Canadian)
0.03112494 French:Urheimat(French_Breton)
0.03130864 USA/Canada:DewslothDad(American)
0.03188306 DacoCeltic_scaled
0.03202605 British_Isles:British:Aroon1916father(Irish/English)
0.03224423 French:The_Lyonnist(French)
0.03228168 French:Xerxez_mother(North_French)
0.03290398 USA/Canada:Titane_mom(French_Canadian)
0.03326014 British_Isles:English:Anglecynn_Aunt(English)
0.03334913 USA/Canada:randwulf(American)
0.03369834 Germany&Netherlands:Dutch:Kellebel_grandmother(Dutch)
0.03384799 British_Isles:English:drb234(English)
0.03385870 USA/Canada:Calxpal(Canadian)
0.03400237 USA/Canada:Sea_Warrior(American)
0.03420210 French:Tolan(French_Northwest)

Just looks typical Northwest Euro

Flashball
05-17-2025, 05:11 PM
Just looks typical Northwest Euro

Too mutch EEF for a NorthWest Euro.

drb234
05-17-2025, 06:01 PM
Too mutch EEF for a NorthWest Euro.

https://i.postimg.cc/C1R8fDMc/image.png

Scores similiar to this Walloon

JerryS.
05-17-2025, 10:03 PM
Too mutch EEF for a NorthWest Euro.

This is why I told him when using the TA members list to omit the usa canadian sources. Most european americans are a mix of several things in europe. However, europeans tend to be of their own genetic region without much mixing if any.

The Americanist
05-17-2025, 10:12 PM
Do not mention if you already know (I've briefly mentioned it in a couple of calculator threads in the past)...what would you guess my buddy and bandmate's ancestry based off of some random recent G25 calculators? Please recommend anything else you'd like to see results for...

YDNA: R1b-L226
mtDNA: H

Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 1.6915% / 0.01691485 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.0 British_Isles
22.6 caesarsalad_scaled
22.4 Germany&Netherlands
17.0 French


World Ancient
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 2.7557% / 0.02755745
67.6 Ireland_Ancient
16.6 Latium
12.6 Illyrian_Thracian_Ancient
3.2 Sardinia_Ancient

Northern Refinement
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 2.5909% / 0.02590886 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.8 N.Irish.Mixed50.ScottishN.Highlands50
18.2 Catalan75.OccitanieAlpesCoed'AzurFrench25
16.6 Thrace50.Bulgarian50
5.4 Irish75.Bulgarian25

Euro Calc
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 19.5606% / 0.19560572
67.2 Asian
22.4 East-Med
9.4 Iberian
1.0 Slavic


Tiny British Calculator
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 3.5435% / 0.03543492
36.6 Continental
35.6 Insular-Celtic
27.8 Germanic

European Medieval
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 1.3909% / 0.01390942 | R5P
29.8 Austria_Austria_Avar
28.8 Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval_oAfrica2
23.2 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
11.8 Germany_Lauchheim_EarlyMedieval
6.4 Sweden_Sigtuna_cemetery_4_Götes_mack_Viking_Age_Si gtuna

Bell Beaker+Neolithic Calc
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 3.2038% / 0.03203840 | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.8 Bell_Beaker
14.2 Greco-Roman_Neolithic

3800BC-2800BC Indo-Euro Invasion
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 1.9263% / 0.01926254
31.0 Latvia_LN_CordedWare
18.4 France_South_LN
11.2 Poland_N_FBC_Slonowice
10.0 Czechia_CordedWare
7.8 Poland_Globular_Amphora
7.4 Turkey_Ikiztepe_LC
5.8 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
5.2 France_LN_South
3.2 Montenegro_LN_Hvar_possible

Steppe-WHG-EEF
Target: giordanofriend
Distance: 6.3773% / 0.06377342 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.2 Turkey_N
41.6 Russia_Steppe_Eneolithic
14.2 Luxembourg_Loschbour.DG

Northern Ireland?

Figaro
05-19-2025, 02:27 PM
Northern Ireland?

Not sure how much of his DNA is proper Ulster Scots, but I'd bet at least part of it is, given that he's a born southerner and from areas where much of the Brit/Irish ancestry is from Northern Ireland. He grew up told he had "Irish/Scottish/English" ancestry (plus German), and he claims the English component is strongest in his mix- not sure if accurate or not, but could be? His surname is pretty pan British-Isles too (but interestingly, belongs to the "Irish type III" Y clade)

He also tested his father, who is mtDNA H3, which is also my father's mtDNA clade as well.

Forgot to mention this- his family does have some lore that there was a Sephardi Jewish ancestor. He doesn't score any "Ashkenazi" which makes me wonder if it's false or just very distant. His father did score some single percentage Iberian, I remember seeing, but I know especially with previous versions of 23andMe it was pretty common for Brits to score minor Iberian too..

Figaro
05-19-2025, 02:38 PM
This is why I told him when using the TA members list to omit the usa canadian sources. Most european americans are a mix of several things in europe. However, europeans tend to be of their own genetic region without much mixing if any.

The updated TA Member's calc result on the OP should be an updated result with USA/Canadians removed.

J. Ketch
05-19-2025, 03:28 PM
Not sure how much of his DNA is proper Ulster Scots, but I'd bet at least part of it is, given that he's a born southerner and from areas where much of the Brit/Irish ancestry is from Northern Ireland. He grew up told he had "Irish/Scottish/English" ancestry (plus German), and he claims the English component is strongest in his mix- not sure if accurate or not, but could be? His surname is pretty pan British-Isles too (but interestingly, belongs to the "Irish type III" Y clade)

He also tested his father, who is mtDNA H3, which is also my father's mtDNA clade as well.

Forgot to mention this- his family does have some lore that there was a Sephardi Jewish ancestor. He doesn't score any "Ashkenazi" which makes me wonder if it's false or just very distant. His father did score some single percentage Iberian, I remember seeing, but I know especially with previous versions of 23andMe it was pretty common for Brits to score minor Iberian too..
I have found that it is very typical for Old Stock Southerners to be a bit Southern/Med shifted for their described ancestry (mostly mixed British Isles), and with extra South German that could explain why he's closer to Northern French.