Which admixture / ancestry is more widespread among Poles?

[Peterski]

1) German
2) Ruthenian (Ukrainian & Belarusian)
3) Both in equal measure

[Andullero]

1) German
2) Ruthenian (Ukrainian & Belarusian)
3) Both in equal measure

Whatever the Wends were? :rolleyes:

[Vanyx]

Jewish

[Peterski]

Whatever the Wends were?

The Wends were Slavs, especially West Slavs.

Poles are one of the Wendish ethnic groups.

So it doesn't answer the question in any way.

[Andullero]

Jewish

Herr Adolf prevented that from becoming widespread, brah.

[Peterski]

Jewish

Jewish might be common but in small amounts, so I don't think that it is more widespread than either German or Ruthenian.

[Vanyx]

Herr Adolf prevented that from becoming widespread, brah.

I read some where that poles have minor Jewish admixture similar to our SSA admixture 3-8%

[Andullero]

The Wends were Slavs, especially West Slavs.

Poles are one of the Wendish ethnic groups.

So it doesn't answer the question in any way.

Of course it does. I'd say Ruthenian/Belarrusian based on that. Don't think their relations with Germanics were harmonious at all during the Iron and Viking ages, bro, quite the contrary.

[drb234]

I read some where that poles have minor Jewish admixture similar to our SSA admixture 3-8%

Most Poles don’t score any Jewish on genetic tests

[Peterski]

Most Poles don’t score any Jewish on genetic tests

On 23andMe the majority of Poles score trace amounts like 0.1% or 0.5%. Rothaer and me calculated this.

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Edit:

Here - https://genarchivist.net/showthread.php?tid=594&pid=11969#pid11969


AJ admixture among my 23andMe relatives who are ethnically Polish and with at least 3/4 reported grandparents from Poland:

1 - 0.0%
2 - 0.0%
3 - 2.3%
4 - 1.0%
5 - 5.3%
6 - 0.1%
7 - 1.9%
8 - 0.2%
9 - 0.0%
10 - 0.0%
11 - 0.2%
12 - 0.3%
13 - 4.1%
14 - 0.0%
15 - 0.0%
16 - 0.0%
17 - 0.3%
18 - 0.4%
19 - 0.4%
20 - 0.0%
21 - 0.0%
22 - 0.0%
23 - 0.0%
24 - 0.2%
25 - 0.5%
26 - 3.6%
27 - 0.4%
28 - 0.2%

So out of 28 such relatives 17 have this admixture (ranging from 0.1% to 5.3%) and 11 don't have it. And the mean is 0.8% AJ.

[drb234]

On 23andMe the majority of Poles score trace amounts like 0.1% or 0.5%. Rothaer and me calculated this.

Are trace amounts of 0.1% reliable? There’s probably a reason why Ancestry doesn’t include groups that score under 1%

[Peterski]

Are trace amounts of 0.1% reliable?

The average amount seems to be 0.8%. At least among my 23andMe relatives (see above, I edited my post).

[Vanyx]

On 23andMe the majority of Poles score trace amounts like 0.1% or 0.5%. Rothaer and me calculated this.

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Edit:

Here - https://genarchivist.net/showthread.php?tid=594&pid=11969#pid11969

Is there any way Mr Peterski you can actually create a one for latm ? To see which one are the most Jewish.

[Peterski]

Is there any way Mr Peterski you can actually create a one for latm ? To see which one are the most Jewish.

Maybe! Argentano created a spreadsheet with Latino 23andMe results and he invited me to edit this spreadsheet, so I can check it. BTW if you have any 23andMe results of Latinos send me them via private message and I will add them to Argentano's sheet.

[drb234]

Is there any way Mr Peterski you can actually create a one for latm ? To see which one are the most Jewish.

https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41467-025-59936-3/MediaObjects/41467_2025_59936_Fig2_HTML.png?as=webp

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-59936-3/figures/2

[Vanyx]

https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41467-025-59936-3/MediaObjects/41467_2025_59936_Fig2_HTML.png?as=webp

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-59936-3/figures/2

Very cool :) but I don't understand, I would probably ask ChatGPT to translate it.

[Peterski]

BTW drb234 why do you think it is Ruthenian?

[ImpishTears]

https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41467-025-59936-3/MediaObjects/41467_2025_59936_Fig2_HTML.png?as=webp

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-59936-3/figures/2

What the hell is all that "Other" stuff?

[Peterski]

Based on surnames it is a very close call (5.5% vs. 5.0% according to Olszak-Przytycki, if his data is reliable).

However some ancestry from these groups could be absorbed by Poles even before surnames became common.

[drb234]

BTW drb234 why do you think it is Ruthenian?

I dont, I just answered the poll instinctively without thinking about it.

[Peterski]

Fistora why do you think it is Ruthenian?

BTW you have both admixtures, right?

[drb234]

What the hell is all that "Other" stuff?

I think it's Ashkenazi

[Fistora]

Fistora why do you think it is Ruthenian?

BTW you have both admixtures, right?

Of course, this is a more complex topic, but I took into account the average of Poles who mostly live in central/southeastern Poland - where the population density is the highest. i Think it's similar case with central-eastern slovaks

I'm mostly Polish/Rusyn/Ukrainian and a little Mordovian and German

[Peterski]

Of course, this is a more complex topic, but I took into account the average of Poles who mostly live in central/southeastern Poland - where the population density is the highest. i Think it's similar case with central-eastern slovaks

I'm mostly Polish/Rusyn/Ukrainian and a little Mordovian and German

However, historically there were much more Germans in Central Poland than Ruthenians in Central Poland.

[Radegast]

the number of Israeli citizens applying for a Polish passport has quadrupled
https://warszawa.wyborcza.pl/warszawa/7,54420,31610135,zydzi-chca-uciekac-do-polski-rekordowa-kolejka-po-polskie-paszporty.html
Jews rushed for Polish passports. Thousands of applications
While in 2022 4,000 Jews tried to obtain a Polish passport, in 2024 the number was already 8,000 – and these are incomplete data that do not include the last quarter
https://pch24.pl/zydzi-rzucili-sie-po-polskie-paszporty-tysiace-wnioskow/


and now - BAM

Evacuation of Poles from Israel and Iran. Details provided
https://wydarzenia.interia.pl/zagranica/news-ewakuacja-polakow-z-izraela-i-iranu-podano-szczegoly,nId,21827395

those "Poles" above?