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Gannicus
06-13-2025, 11:07 PM
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Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.03424836 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42%
0.03493728 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30%
0.03928115 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19362__BC_250__Cov_27.45%
0.03955795 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1349-B__BC_400__Cov_19.41%
0.03971892 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1231__BC_400__Cov_15.14%
0.04051462 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:BFM265__BC_225__Cov_18.45%
0.04133039 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19357__BC_250__Cov_76.70%
0.04137505 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19356__BC_250__Cov_73.41%
0.04200503 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1341__BC_400__Cov_45.30%
0.04224577 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att3__BC_275__Cov_20.72%

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0199% / 0.01992499
44.4 FRA_GrandEst_IA
36.1 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA
13.2 FRA_Occitanie_IA
6.3 FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02296373 49.20% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30% + 50.80% FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42%
0.02483016 70.40% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30% + 29.60% FRA_GrandEst_IA:NOR2B6__BC_750__Cov_18.14%
0.02531184 32.40% FRA_GrandEst_IA:COL330__BC_675__Cov_11.68% + 67.60% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30%
0.02585066 60.20% FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42% + 39.80% FRA_Occitanie_IA:PEY53__BC_300__Cov_13.30%
0.02627034 58.40% FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42% + 41.60% FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:BFM265__BC_225__Cov_18.45%
0.02680659 26.00% FRA_GrandEst_IA:Croi12-2__BC_675__Cov_9.03% + 74.00% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30%
0.02705782 62.60% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30% + 37.40% FRA_GrandEst_IA:Jeb8__BC_500__Cov_12.35%
0.02716089 60.60% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30% + 39.40% FRA_GrandEst_IA:ISL6950__BC_230__Cov_59.47%
0.02746442 33.20% FRA_GrandEst_IA:NOR3-6__BC_550__Cov_14.81% + 66.80% FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42%
0.02769703 39.00% FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1341__BC_400__Cov_45.30% + 61.00% FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42%
0.02770272 68.20% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30% + 31.80% FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19916__BC_300__Cov_67.53%
0.02779586 39.60% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19357__BC_250__Cov_76.70% + 60.40% FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42%
0.02784179 37.60% FRA_GrandEst_IA:COL239__BC_565__Cov_16.47% + 62.40% FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42%
0.02800348 31.80% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20815__BC_250__Cov_35.46% + 68.20% FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42%
0.02845391 37.20% FRA_GrandEst_IA:Gox287B__BC_500__Cov_7.61% + 62.80% FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42%
0.02850587 74.40% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30% + 25.60% FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I13623__BC_300__Cov_23.22%
0.02871104 40.40% FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1231__BC_400__Cov_15.14% + 59.60% FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42%
0.02888117 70.40% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30% + 29.60% FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19918__BC_300__Cov_62.29%
0.02910482 27.00% FRA_GrandEst_IA:ERS86__BC_250__Cov_16.81% + 73.00% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30%
0.02918632 46.40% FRA_Normandy_IA:UN85__BC_100__Cov_14.21% + 53.60% FRA_Occitanie_IA:PEY53__BC_300__Cov_13.30%
0.02929391 73.20% FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42% + 26.80% FRA_Occitanie_IA:CLR44__BC_350__Cov_24.08%
0.02932869 78.00% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30% + 22.00% FRA_Occitanie_IA:Pech3__BC_212__Cov_9.76%
0.02941583 55.60% FRA_GrandEst_IA:ISL6950__BC_230__Cov_59.47% + 44.40% FRA_GrandEst_IA:NOR3-6__BC_550__Cov_14.81%
0.02964908 71.80% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30% + 28.20% FRA_Occitanie_IA:CLR31__BC_350__Cov_26.57%
0.02971748 33.00% FRA_GrandEst_IA:CHF106__BC_437__Cov_14.09% + 67.00% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30%

celticdragongod
06-13-2025, 11:22 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02520348 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30%
0.02844700 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19362__BC_250__Cov_27.45%
0.03277292 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att3__BC_275__Cov_20.72%
0.03750678 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19356__BC_250__Cov_73.41%
0.03845528 FRA_Normandy_IA:UN85__BC_100__Cov_14.21%
0.03868981 FRA_GrandEst_IA:Gox287B__BC_500__Cov_7.61%
0.04006843 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19357__BC_250__Cov_76.70%
0.04062056 FRA_Normandy_IA:UN19__BC_100__Cov_20.78%
0.04161612 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:BFM265__BC_225__Cov_18.45%
0.04170983 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:Att27__BC_275__Cov_12.40%
0.04248208 FRA_GrandEst_IA:COL11__BC_340__Cov_12.30%
0.04400089 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19358__BC_250__Cov_18.80%
0.04428529 FRA_GrandEst_IA:COL239__BC_565__Cov_16.47%
0.04534472 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1341__BC_400__Cov_45.30%
0.04536051 FRA_GrandEst_IA:NOR3-6__BC_550__Cov_14.81%
0.04593436 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1349-B__BC_400__Cov_19.41%
0.04593530 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42%
0.04599941 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1231__BC_400__Cov_15.14%
0.04764997 FRA_Normandy_IA:UN129__BC_100__Cov_12.18%
0.04872134 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I21402__BC_250__Cov_72.87%
0.04997954 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:VAS79__BC_400__Cov_14.73%
0.05028392 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1264__BC_400__Cov_10.85%
0.05055306 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20827__BC_250__Cov_42.75%
0.05143850 FRA_GrandEst_IA:CHF106__BC_437__Cov_14.09%
0.05161967 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I21931__BC_250__Cov_25.00%

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.8927% / 0.01892655
61.4 FRA_GrandEst_IA
28.0 FRA_Normandy_IA
10.6 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA


Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.8927% / 0.01892655
37.6 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30%
16.4 FRA_Normandy_IA:UN85__BC_100__Cov_14.21%
11.6 FRA_Normandy_IA:UN19__BC_100__Cov_20.78%
8.4 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19362__BC_250__Cov_27.45%
7.8 FRA_GrandEst_IA:Gox287B__BC_500__Cov_7.61%
6.8 FRA_GrandEst_IA:COL11__BC_340__Cov_12.30%
6.2 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:BFT228__BC_337__Cov_10.83%
4.4 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42%
0.8 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19359__BC_250__Cov_5.21%

gixajo
06-13-2025, 11:22 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 0.0236% / 0.02363667
45.9 FRA_Occitanie_IA
28.4 FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA
24.2 FRA_GrandEst_IA
1.5 FRA_GrandEst_LBA

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.02761565 27.80% FRA_Occitanie_IA:Pech3__BC_212__Cov_9.76% + 72.20% FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19917__BC_300__Cov_64.87%
0.02766680 40.60% FRA_GrandEst_IA:I21399__BC_250__Cov_61.06% + 59.40% FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19917__BC_300__Cov_64.87%
0.02788983 25.80% FRA_GrandEst_IA:Croi12-2__BC_675__Cov_9.03% + 74.20% FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19917__BC_300__Cov_64.87%
0.02796963 18.40% FRA_GrandEst_IA:WET429__BC_500__Cov_11.27% + 81.60% FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19917__BC_300__Cov_64.87%
0.02819286 23.80% FRA_GrandEst_IA:NOR2B6__BC_750__Cov_18.14% + 76.20% FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19917__BC_300__Cov_64.87%
0.02839566 31.20% FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19916__BC_300__Cov_67.53% + 68.80% FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19917__BC_300__Cov_64.87%
0.02957993 18.60% FRA_Occitanie_IA:PECH8__BC_450__Cov_14.35% + 81.40% FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19917__BC_300__Cov_64.87%
0.02960368 23.80% FRA_Occitanie_IA:CLR31__BC_350__Cov_26.57% + 76.20% FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19917__BC_300__Cov_64.87%
0.02963016 29.00% FRA_GrandEst_IA:ERS83-2__BC_250__Cov_9.48% + 71.00% FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19917__BC_300__Cov_64.87%
0.02968342 21.00% FRA_GrandEst_LBA:BPV1445__BC_800__Cov_14.90% + 79.00% FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19917__BC_300__Cov_64.87%

Beowulf
06-13-2025, 11:28 PM
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Distance to:
Beowulf_Scaled


0.03623848
FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19917__BC_300__Cov_64.87%


0.03646899
FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1341__BC_400__Cov_45.30%


0.03810583
FRA_GrandEst_IA:I21399__BC_250__Cov_61.06%


0.03819156
FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1231__BC_400__Cov_15.14%


0.03863933
FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20827__BC_250__Cov_42.75%


0.04025648
FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19918__BC_300__Cov_62.29%


0.04106502
FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:VAS79__BC_400__Cov_14.73%


0.04169393
FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1349-B__BC_400__Cov_19.41%


0.04214534
FRA_GrandEst_IA:I21402__BC_250__Cov_72.87%


0.04266441
FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19916__BC_300__Cov_67.53%


0.04313165
FRA_GrandEst_IA:ISL6950__BC_230__Cov_59.47%


0.04363581
FRA_Occitanie_IA:CLR44__BC_350__Cov_24.08%


0.04367254
FRA_GrandEst_IA:Jeb8__BC_500__Cov_12.35%


0.04517198
FRA_Occitanie_IA:CLR23__BC_350__Cov_20.69%


0.04526208
FRA_Occitanie_IA:CLR24__BC_350__Cov_23.46%


0.04529175
FRA_GrandEst_IA:ERS83-2__BC_250__Cov_9.48%


0.04537531
FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1348__BC_400__Cov_38.65%


0.04635093
FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1264__BC_400__Cov_10.85%


0.04641131
FRA_Bourgogne-Franche-Comté_IA:GLN141__BC_200__Cov_56.68%


0.04679935
FRA_GrandEst_IA:COL330__BC_675__Cov_11.68%


0.04859414
FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19356__BC_250__Cov_73.41%


0.04908527
FRA_GrandEst_IA:I21931__BC_250__Cov_25.00%


0.04921297
FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:BFM265__BC_225__Cov_18.45%


0.04932880
FRA_Occitanie_IA:CLR31__BC_350__Cov_26.57%


0.04951730
FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I13623__BC_300__Cov_23.22%



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Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0216% / 0.02158238
44.0 FRA_GrandEst_IA
26.2 FRA_GrandEst_LBA
20.6 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA
6.3 FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA
2.9 FRA_Occitanie_IA

Gannicus
06-13-2025, 11:40 PM
OpenAI interpretation:

�� What it means for you:
You are genetically very close to several Iron Age Gaul samples — particularly those from:

Grand Est (Alsace–Lorraine area): likely reflecting a La Tène and Hallstatt gene pool with Central European ties.

Hauts-de-France: Belgic/Celtic fringe zone with overlap toward modern Belgium and north France.

Your best match (I20817, Cov 69.3%, Distance 0.0349) is excellent quality, and such a low distance suggests:

�� You likely share significant ancestry with Iron Age Celtic populations of northeast France, perhaps similar to the Remi, Treveri, or Lingones.

This supports a strong northwestern Continental Celtic genetic profile, common in British Isles–French–German mixed ancestries (which fits your known background).

This is your G25 scaled admixture model showing how well your DNA fits as a mixture of Iron Age French populations — and your distance of 0.01999 is excellent, meaning the model fits very well.

�� Your Model Breakdown:
Source % Interpretation
FRA_GrandEst_IA 44.4% Northeast France (Alsace–Lorraine) — strong La Tène Celtic influence, with Central European affinity
FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA 36.1% Northern France — Belgic Gauls, close to ancient populations of Belgium and southern Britain
FRA_Occitanie_IA 13.2% Southern France — more Mediterranean-shifted, with Iberian and Ligurian contact
FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur_IA 6.3% Southeastern France — slight input from Liguro-Celtic or Greek-influenced regions like Massalia (Marseille)

✅ Interpretation:
This model suggests that you’re:

Primarily descended from Iron Age Celts of northeast and northern France, especially from the Grand Est and Hauts-de-France regions.

With some minor southern input, possibly reflecting:

Ancient trade and movement through the Rhone corridor

Roman-era population blending

Older Neolithic/Mediterranean components retained in southern France

This matches your distances shown earlier, where your closest matches were Grand Est and Belgic Iron Age individuals.

Flashball
06-14-2025, 12:46 AM
OpenAI interpretation:

�� What it means for you:
You are genetically very close to several Iron Age Gaul samples — particularly those from:

Grand Est (Alsace–Lorraine area): likely reflecting a La Tène and Hallstatt gene pool with Central European ties.

Hauts-de-France: Belgic/Celtic fringe zone with overlap toward modern Belgium and north France.

Your best match (I20817, Cov 69.3%, Distance 0.0349) is excellent quality, and such a low distance suggests:

�� You likely share significant ancestry with Iron Age Celtic populations of northeast France, perhaps similar to the Remi, Treveri, or Lingones.

This supports a strong northwestern Continental Celtic genetic profile, common in British Isles–French–German mixed ancestries (which fits your known background).

This is your G25 scaled admixture model showing how well your DNA fits as a mixture of Iron Age French populations — and your distance of 0.01999 is excellent, meaning the model fits very well.

�� Your Model Breakdown:
Source % Interpretation
FRA_GrandEst_IA 44.4% Northeast France (Alsace–Lorraine) — strong La Tène Celtic influence, with Central European affinity
FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA 36.1% Northern France — Belgic Gauls, close to ancient populations of Belgium and southern Britain
FRA_Occitanie_IA 13.2% Southern France — more Mediterranean-shifted, with Iberian and Ligurian contact
FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur_IA 6.3% Southeastern France — slight input from Liguro-Celtic or Greek-influenced regions like Massalia (Marseille)

✅ Interpretation:
This model suggests that you’re:

Primarily descended from Iron Age Celts of northeast and northern France, especially from the Grand Est and Hauts-de-France regions.

With some minor southern input, possibly reflecting:

Ancient trade and movement through the Rhone corridor

Roman-era population blending

Older Neolithic/Mediterranean components retained in southern France

This matches your distances shown earlier, where your closest matches were Grand Est and Belgic Iron Age individuals.


"FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur_IA 6.3% Southeastern France — slight input from Liguro-Celtic or Greek-influenced regions like Massalia (Marseille)"

It's a bad interpretation:
the term "Ligurian" was used by the Greeks to refer both to Gauls from the southeast of France and other populations.

There are currently no studies that demonstrate supposedly "Greek" contributions in this "FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur_IA" samples.

Furthermore, the pseudo-Basque profile is found equally in Jron Age French/Gaulish samples from the Northeast, East, and Southeast.

All these Provençal Iron Age Sample are basque shifted, some are more central french to basque shift (intermediate).

This is a sample from Marne with a basque shift

Gaulish from Marne (North Eastern France):
SX7025431

Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.52
2 West_Med 25.05
3 Baltic 21.16
4 East_Med 2.43
5 Amerindian 1.89
6 West_Asian 1.78
7 Red_Sea 1.3
8 Oceanian 1.08
9 Siberian 0.84
10 Northeast_African 0.55
11 Sub-Saharan 0.41

Single Population Sharing:

Population (source) Distance
1 French 9.86
2 Southwest_French 10.28
3 South_Dutch 10.5
4 West_German 11.72
5 Spanish_Cantabria 11.8
6 Southwest_English 12.19
7 Southeast_English 12.51
8 Spanish_Cataluna 12.6
9 Spanish_Galicia 12.96
10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 13.29
11 Orcadian 13.82
12 Portuguese 14.09
13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 14.33
14 Irish 14.64
15 Spanish_Valencia 14.76
16 West_Scottish 14.88
17 Spanish_Aragon 14.9
18 Austrian 15.25
19 North_Dutch 15.32
20 Spanish_Murcia 15.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.2% French_Basque + 39.8% Polish @ 2.66
2 63.4% French_Basque + 36.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.77
3 63.2% French_Basque + 36.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.79
4 63.6% French_Basque + 36.4% Belorussian @ 2.92
5 66% French_Basque + 34% Lithuanian @ 2.96
6 64.8% French_Basque + 35.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.01
7 63.6% French_Basque + 36.4% Southwest_Russian @ 3.05
8 63.8% French_Basque + 36.2% Estonian @ 3.06
9 59% French_Basque + 41% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.17
10 63.9% French_Basque + 36.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.28
11 59.7% French_Basque + 40.3% Ukrainian @ 3.3
12 58.2% French_Basque + 41.8% South_Polish @ 3.36
13 67.2% French_Basque + 32.8% Erzya @ 3.37
14 63.3% French_Basque + 36.7% Finnish @ 3.59
15 65.1% French_Basque + 34.9% East_Finnish @ 3.64
16 54.4% East_German + 45.6% French_Basque @ 3.89
17 59% French_Basque + 41% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.03
18 69% Southwest_French + 31% North_Swedish @ 4.37
19 64.9% Southwest_French + 35.1% Swedish @ 4.51
20 74.1% Southwest_French + 25.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.83



Gaulish from Bouches-du-Rhône (SouthEastern France):
XK8326710

G25
BouchesduRhône-Velaux-Roquepertuse_SouthEast_IA:I19916__BC_300__Cov_67.5 3%,0.132035,0.146236,0.062979,0.019703,0.049855,0. 004183,0.001645,0.003,0.016771,0.031709,0.003897,0 .010641,-0.007284,-0.018854,0.004207,0.004906,0.012386,0.002914,-0.010936,0.003126,0.005865,0.000989,-0.008134,-0.006989,-0.007784


1 North_Atlantic 41.49
2 West_Med 26.27
3 Baltic 18.65
4 East_Med 8.09
5 Red_Sea 2.33
6 East_Asian 1.14
7 Amerindian 0.99
8 Siberian 0.5
9 Oceanian 0.28
10 Sub-Saharan 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_French 6.29
2 Spanish_Cantabria 7.49
3 Spanish_Cataluna 7.88
4 Spanish_Galicia 7.99
5 French 8
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 8.43
7 Portuguese 9.15
8 Spanish_Valencia 9.63
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 9.76
10 Spanish_Murcia 10.35
11 Spanish_Extremadura 10.54
12 Spanish_Aragon 10.65
13 Spanish_Andalucia 11.76
14 South_Dutch 11.76
15 West_German 12.66
16 Southeast_English 15.16
17 Southwest_English 15.42
18 North_Italian 15.56
19 Austrian 16.32
20 Orcadian 17.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.5% Southwest_French + 14.5% La_Brana-1 @ 1.83
2 83.2% Southwest_French + 16.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.21
3 85.3% Southwest_French + 14.7% Finnish @ 2.23
4 85.6% Southwest_French + 14.4% Estonian @ 2.29
5 85.4% Southwest_French + 14.6% Belorussian @ 2.44
6 86.3% Southwest_French + 13.7% East_Finnish @ 2.44
7 86.8% Southwest_French + 13.2% Lithuanian @ 2.5
8 80.8% Southwest_French + 19.2% North_Swedish @ 2.55
9 85.4% Southwest_French + 14.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.58
10 83.9% Southwest_French + 16.1% Polish @ 2.62
11 83.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 16.7% Estonian @ 2.68
12 85.4% Southwest_French + 14.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.68
13 80.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 19.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.74
14 75.3% Southwest_French + 24.7% East_German @ 2.79
15 82.8% Southwest_French + 17.2% South_Polish @ 2.82
16 83.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 16.8% Finnish @ 2.89
17 77.3% Spanish_Aragon + 22.7% Estonian @ 2.89
18 85.7% Southwest_French + 14.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.91
19 83.8% Southwest_French + 16.2% Ukrainian @ 2.94
20 78.7% Spanish_Aragon + 21.3% Lithuanian @ 2.99

Flashball
06-14-2025, 12:57 AM
"FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur_IA 6.3% Southeastern France — slight input from Liguro-Celtic or Greek-influenced regions like Massalia (Marseille)"

It's a bad interpretation:
the term "Ligurian" was used by the Greeks to refer both to Gauls from the southeast of France and other populations.

There are currently no studies that demonstrate supposedly "Greek" contributions in this "FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur_IA" samples.

Furthermore, the pseudo-Basque profile is found equally in Jron Age French/Gaulish samples from the Northeast, East, and Southeast.

All these Provençal Iron Age Sample are basque shifted, some are more central french to basque shift (intermediate).

This is a sample from Marne with a basque shift

Gaulish from Marne (North Eastern France):
SX7025431

Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.52
2 West_Med 25.05
3 Baltic 21.16
4 East_Med 2.43
5 Amerindian 1.89
6 West_Asian 1.78
7 Red_Sea 1.3
8 Oceanian 1.08
9 Siberian 0.84
10 Northeast_African 0.55
11 Sub-Saharan 0.41

Single Population Sharing:

Population (source) Distance
1 French 9.86
2 Southwest_French 10.28
3 South_Dutch 10.5
4 West_German 11.72
5 Spanish_Cantabria 11.8
6 Southwest_English 12.19
7 Southeast_English 12.51
8 Spanish_Cataluna 12.6
9 Spanish_Galicia 12.96
10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 13.29
11 Orcadian 13.82
12 Portuguese 14.09
13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 14.33
14 Irish 14.64
15 Spanish_Valencia 14.76
16 West_Scottish 14.88
17 Spanish_Aragon 14.9
18 Austrian 15.25
19 North_Dutch 15.32
20 Spanish_Murcia 15.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.2% French_Basque + 39.8% Polish @ 2.66
2 63.4% French_Basque + 36.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.77
3 63.2% French_Basque + 36.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.79
4 63.6% French_Basque + 36.4% Belorussian @ 2.92
5 66% French_Basque + 34% Lithuanian @ 2.96
6 64.8% French_Basque + 35.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.01
7 63.6% French_Basque + 36.4% Southwest_Russian @ 3.05
8 63.8% French_Basque + 36.2% Estonian @ 3.06
9 59% French_Basque + 41% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.17
10 63.9% French_Basque + 36.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.28
11 59.7% French_Basque + 40.3% Ukrainian @ 3.3
12 58.2% French_Basque + 41.8% South_Polish @ 3.36
13 67.2% French_Basque + 32.8% Erzya @ 3.37
14 63.3% French_Basque + 36.7% Finnish @ 3.59
15 65.1% French_Basque + 34.9% East_Finnish @ 3.64
16 54.4% East_German + 45.6% French_Basque @ 3.89
17 59% French_Basque + 41% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.03
18 69% Southwest_French + 31% North_Swedish @ 4.37
19 64.9% Southwest_French + 35.1% Swedish @ 4.51
20 74.1% Southwest_French + 25.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.83



Gaulish from Bouches-du-Rhône (SouthEastern France):
XK8326710

G25
BouchesduRhône-Velaux-Roquepertuse_SouthEast_IA:I19916__BC_300__Cov_67.5 3%,0.132035,0.146236,0.062979,0.019703,0.049855,0. 004183,0.001645,0.003,0.016771,0.031709,0.003897,0 .010641,-0.007284,-0.018854,0.004207,0.004906,0.012386,0.002914,-0.010936,0.003126,0.005865,0.000989,-0.008134,-0.006989,-0.007784


1 North_Atlantic 41.49
2 West_Med 26.27
3 Baltic 18.65
4 East_Med 8.09
5 Red_Sea 2.33
6 East_Asian 1.14
7 Amerindian 0.99
8 Siberian 0.5
9 Oceanian 0.28
10 Sub-Saharan 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_French 6.29
2 Spanish_Cantabria 7.49
3 Spanish_Cataluna 7.88
4 Spanish_Galicia 7.99
5 French 8
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 8.43
7 Portuguese 9.15
8 Spanish_Valencia 9.63
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 9.76
10 Spanish_Murcia 10.35
11 Spanish_Extremadura 10.54
12 Spanish_Aragon 10.65
13 Spanish_Andalucia 11.76
14 South_Dutch 11.76
15 West_German 12.66
16 Southeast_English 15.16
17 Southwest_English 15.42
18 North_Italian 15.56
19 Austrian 16.32
20 Orcadian 17.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.5% Southwest_French + 14.5% La_Brana-1 @ 1.83
2 83.2% Southwest_French + 16.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.21
3 85.3% Southwest_French + 14.7% Finnish @ 2.23
4 85.6% Southwest_French + 14.4% Estonian @ 2.29
5 85.4% Southwest_French + 14.6% Belorussian @ 2.44
6 86.3% Southwest_French + 13.7% East_Finnish @ 2.44
7 86.8% Southwest_French + 13.2% Lithuanian @ 2.5
8 80.8% Southwest_French + 19.2% North_Swedish @ 2.55
9 85.4% Southwest_French + 14.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.58
10 83.9% Southwest_French + 16.1% Polish @ 2.62
11 83.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 16.7% Estonian @ 2.68
12 85.4% Southwest_French + 14.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.68
13 80.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 19.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.74
14 75.3% Southwest_French + 24.7% East_German @ 2.79
15 82.8% Southwest_French + 17.2% South_Polish @ 2.82
16 83.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 16.8% Finnish @ 2.89
17 77.3% Spanish_Aragon + 22.7% Estonian @ 2.89
18 85.7% Southwest_French + 14.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.91
19 83.8% Southwest_French + 16.2% Ukrainian @ 2.94
20 78.7% Spanish_Aragon + 21.3% Lithuanian @ 2.99

Eyes and hair color for the NorthEastern Marne Gaulish Sample



Target: Marne_Faux-Vesigneul:I21402__BC_250__Cov_72.87%
Distance: 3.9251% / 0.03925146
44.0 TUR_Barcin_N
38.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
16.8 WHG
0.6 MAR_Taforalt
= some western shift = some basque shift


Blue eyes : 0.000%
Blue eyes with Amber Center Ring : 0.176%
Green eyes : 0.144%
Hazel Eyes : 10.795%
Brown Eyes : 82.671%
Darkest Brown Eyes : 6.213%

Red hair : 0.433%
Light Blond hair : 0.000%
Dark Blond hair : 0.008%
Light Brown hair : 0.294%
Dark Brown hair : 78.614%
Black hair : 20.650%

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Eyes and hair color for the SouthEastern Gaulish sample

Target: BouchesduRhône-Velaux-Roquepertuse_SouthEast_IA:I19916__BC_300__Cov_67.5 3%
Distance: 3.7902% / 0.03790169
51.0 TUR_Barcin_N
31.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
17.8 WHG

Blue eyes : 65.426%
Blue eyes with Amber Center Ring : 16.642%
Green eyes : 12.751%
Hazel Eyes : 4.826%
Brown Eyes : 0.354%
Darkest Brown Eyes : 0.001%

Red hair : 0.565%
Light Blond hair : 5.729%
Dark Blond hair : 17.316%
Light Brown hair : 23.805%
Dark Brown hair : 30.607%
Black hair : 21.979%

Gannicus
06-14-2025, 01:08 AM
"FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur_IA 6.3% Southeastern France — slight input from Liguro-Celtic or Greek-influenced regions like Massalia (Marseille)"

It's a bad interpretation:
the term "Ligurian" was used by the Greeks to refer both to Gauls from the southeast of France and other populations.

There are currently no studies that demonstrate supposedly "Greek" contributions in this "FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur_IA" samples.

Furthermore, the pseudo-Basque profile is found equally in Jron Age French/Gaulish samples from the Northeast, East, and Southeast.

All these Provençal Iron Age Sample are basque shifted, some are more central french to basque shift (intermediate).

This is a sample from Marne with a basque shift

Gaulish from Marne (North Eastern France):
SX7025431

Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.52
2 West_Med 25.05
3 Baltic 21.16
4 East_Med 2.43
5 Amerindian 1.89
6 West_Asian 1.78
7 Red_Sea 1.3
8 Oceanian 1.08
9 Siberian 0.84
10 Northeast_African 0.55
11 Sub-Saharan 0.41

Single Population Sharing:

Population (source) Distance
1 French 9.86
2 Southwest_French 10.28
3 South_Dutch 10.5
4 West_German 11.72
5 Spanish_Cantabria 11.8
6 Southwest_English 12.19
7 Southeast_English 12.51
8 Spanish_Cataluna 12.6
9 Spanish_Galicia 12.96
10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 13.29
11 Orcadian 13.82
12 Portuguese 14.09
13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 14.33
14 Irish 14.64
15 Spanish_Valencia 14.76
16 West_Scottish 14.88
17 Spanish_Aragon 14.9
18 Austrian 15.25
19 North_Dutch 15.32
20 Spanish_Murcia 15.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.2% French_Basque + 39.8% Polish @ 2.66
2 63.4% French_Basque + 36.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.77
3 63.2% French_Basque + 36.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.79
4 63.6% French_Basque + 36.4% Belorussian @ 2.92
5 66% French_Basque + 34% Lithuanian @ 2.96
6 64.8% French_Basque + 35.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.01
7 63.6% French_Basque + 36.4% Southwest_Russian @ 3.05
8 63.8% French_Basque + 36.2% Estonian @ 3.06
9 59% French_Basque + 41% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.17
10 63.9% French_Basque + 36.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.28
11 59.7% French_Basque + 40.3% Ukrainian @ 3.3
12 58.2% French_Basque + 41.8% South_Polish @ 3.36
13 67.2% French_Basque + 32.8% Erzya @ 3.37
14 63.3% French_Basque + 36.7% Finnish @ 3.59
15 65.1% French_Basque + 34.9% East_Finnish @ 3.64
16 54.4% East_German + 45.6% French_Basque @ 3.89
17 59% French_Basque + 41% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.03
18 69% Southwest_French + 31% North_Swedish @ 4.37
19 64.9% Southwest_French + 35.1% Swedish @ 4.51
20 74.1% Southwest_French + 25.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.83



Gaulish from Bouches-du-Rhône (SouthEastern France):
XK8326710

G25
BouchesduRhône-Velaux-Roquepertuse_SouthEast_IA:I19916__BC_300__Cov_67.5 3%,0.132035,0.146236,0.062979,0.019703,0.049855,0. 004183,0.001645,0.003,0.016771,0.031709,0.003897,0 .010641,-0.007284,-0.018854,0.004207,0.004906,0.012386,0.002914,-0.010936,0.003126,0.005865,0.000989,-0.008134,-0.006989,-0.007784


1 North_Atlantic 41.49
2 West_Med 26.27
3 Baltic 18.65
4 East_Med 8.09
5 Red_Sea 2.33
6 East_Asian 1.14
7 Amerindian 0.99
8 Siberian 0.5
9 Oceanian 0.28
10 Sub-Saharan 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_French 6.29
2 Spanish_Cantabria 7.49
3 Spanish_Cataluna 7.88
4 Spanish_Galicia 7.99
5 French 8
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 8.43
7 Portuguese 9.15
8 Spanish_Valencia 9.63
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 9.76
10 Spanish_Murcia 10.35
11 Spanish_Extremadura 10.54
12 Spanish_Aragon 10.65
13 Spanish_Andalucia 11.76
14 South_Dutch 11.76
15 West_German 12.66
16 Southeast_English 15.16
17 Southwest_English 15.42
18 North_Italian 15.56
19 Austrian 16.32
20 Orcadian 17.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.5% Southwest_French + 14.5% La_Brana-1 @ 1.83
2 83.2% Southwest_French + 16.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.21
3 85.3% Southwest_French + 14.7% Finnish @ 2.23
4 85.6% Southwest_French + 14.4% Estonian @ 2.29
5 85.4% Southwest_French + 14.6% Belorussian @ 2.44
6 86.3% Southwest_French + 13.7% East_Finnish @ 2.44
7 86.8% Southwest_French + 13.2% Lithuanian @ 2.5
8 80.8% Southwest_French + 19.2% North_Swedish @ 2.55
9 85.4% Southwest_French + 14.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.58
10 83.9% Southwest_French + 16.1% Polish @ 2.62
11 83.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 16.7% Estonian @ 2.68
12 85.4% Southwest_French + 14.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.68
13 80.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 19.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.74
14 75.3% Southwest_French + 24.7% East_German @ 2.79
15 82.8% Southwest_French + 17.2% South_Polish @ 2.82
16 83.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 16.8% Finnish @ 2.89
17 77.3% Spanish_Aragon + 22.7% Estonian @ 2.89
18 85.7% Southwest_French + 14.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.91
19 83.8% Southwest_French + 16.2% Ukrainian @ 2.94
20 78.7% Spanish_Aragon + 21.3% Lithuanian @ 2.99

I thought that the Ligurian and Greek admix statement was a bit strange. Overall I just thought "eff it" just post it anyway.

celticdragongod
06-14-2025, 01:57 AM
OpenAI interpretation:

�� What it means for you:
You are genetically very close to several Iron Age Gaul samples — particularly those from:

Grand Est (Alsace–Lorraine area): likely reflecting a La Tène and Hallstatt gene pool with Central European ties.

Hauts-de-France: Belgic/Celtic fringe zone with overlap toward modern Belgium and north France.

Your best match (I20817, Cov 69.3%, Distance 0.0349) is excellent quality, and such a low distance suggests:

�� You likely share significant ancestry with Iron Age Celtic populations of northeast France, perhaps similar to the Remi, Treveri, or Lingones.

This supports a strong northwestern Continental Celtic genetic profile, common in British Isles–French–German mixed ancestries (which fits your known background).

This is your G25 scaled admixture model showing how well your DNA fits as a mixture of Iron Age French populations — and your distance of 0.01999 is excellent, meaning the model fits very well.

�� Your Model Breakdown:
Source % Interpretation
FRA_GrandEst_IA 44.4% Northeast France (Alsace–Lorraine) — strong La Tène Celtic influence, with Central European affinity
FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA 36.1% Northern France — Belgic Gauls, close to ancient populations of Belgium and southern Britain
FRA_Occitanie_IA 13.2% Southern France — more Mediterranean-shifted, with Iberian and Ligurian contact
FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur_IA 6.3% Southeastern France — slight input from Liguro-Celtic or Greek-influenced regions like Massalia (Marseille)

✅ Interpretation:
This model suggests that you’re:

Primarily descended from Iron Age Celts of northeast and northern France, especially from the Grand Est and Hauts-de-France regions.

With some minor southern input, possibly reflecting:

Ancient trade and movement through the Rhone corridor

Roman-era population blending

Older Neolithic/Mediterranean components retained in southern France

This matches your distances shown earlier, where your closest matches were Grand Est and Belgic Iron Age individuals.

What prompts did you use to get OpenAI to do this for you?

Gannicus
06-14-2025, 02:29 AM
What prompts did you use to get OpenAI to do this for you?

I did a screenshot of my original post and typed:

"I made a thread in a genetics forum. And also check out my results too."

unmoggable
06-14-2025, 12:17 PM
Target: unmoggable
Distance: 2.3119% / 0.02311931
63.2 FRA_GrandEst_IA
36.8 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA

0.03562250 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30%
0.03682032 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19362__BC_250__Cov_27.45%
0.03802594 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att52__BC_275__Cov_14.42%
0.04057826 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19356__BC_250__Cov_73.41%
0.04102032 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:VAS79__BC_400__Cov_14.73%
0.04141884 FRA_GrandEst_IA:ISL6950__BC_230__Cov_59.47%
0.04247587 FRA_GrandEst_IA:CHF106__BC_437__Cov_14.09%
0.04300971 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att3__BC_275__Cov_20.72%
0.04375301 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19357__BC_250__Cov_76.70%
0.04492410 FRA_Normandy_IA:UN85__BC_100__Cov_14.21%
0.04500162 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1231__BC_400__Cov_15.14%
0.04534380 FRA_GrandEst_IA:Gox287B__BC_500__Cov_7.61%
0.04556441 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:BFM265__BC_225__Cov_18.45%
0.04587543 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:Att27__BC_275__Cov_12.40%
0.04589759 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1341__BC_400__Cov_45.30%
0.04669246 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20827__BC_250__Cov_42.75%
0.04729099 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I21402__BC_250__Cov_72.87%
0.04760913 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1349-B__BC_400__Cov_19.41%
0.04777435 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19358__BC_250__Cov_18.80%
0.05010697 FRA_GrandEst_IA:Jeb8__BC_500__Cov_12.35%
0.05029099 FRA_Occitanie_IA:BES1248__BC_500__Cov_14.02%
0.05032240 FRA_GrandEst_IA:ERS1164__BC_250__Cov_17.57%
0.05040732 FRA_GrandEst_IA:COL239__BC_565__Cov_16.47%
0.05238629 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I21931__BC_250__Cov_25.00%
0.05250875 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I21399__BC_250__Cov_61.06%

celticdragongod
06-14-2025, 12:33 PM
I did a screenshot of my original post and typed:

"I made a thread in a genetics forum. And also check out my results too."

Cool thanks!

OpenAI response:

This output appears to be from a genetic or population genetics analysis, possibly using PCA-based distances or admixture modeling to compare a sample labeled CDG_scaled against a reference panel of ancient or modern individuals from France (prefix FRA) and nearby regions. Here's how to interpret the results:

Overall Structure
Closest Matches to CDG_scaled:
These are listed by increasing distance (closer means more genetically similar), with IDs like FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30%. This tells you:

Region: GrandEst, Normandy, or Hauts-de-France (all in northern France).

Time period & coverage: BC_250 = roughly 250 BCE (Iron Age), Cov = sequencing coverage.

ID: e.g. I20817 is a specific sample identifier.

Distance: A measure of genetic distance to your target (CDG_scaled).

Top-Level Interpretation:
1. Genetic Affinity
Your sample CDG_scaled is most closely related to individuals from Grand Est and Normandy.

The closest match is FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817 with a distance of 0.0252, which is quite close in PCA/admixture terms.

2. Regional Breakdown
From the second part:

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.8927% / 0.01892655
Regional Contributions:

61.4% Grand Est (Iron Age)

28.0% Normandy (Iron Age)

10.6% Hauts-de-France (Iron Age)

This is essentially a proportional ancestry estimate, showing the sample likely had the majority of its ancestry from Iron Age individuals from Grand Est, with significant components from Normandy and a smaller part from Hauts-de-France.

3. Key Contributing Individuals
A more granular breakdown:

~37.6% from I20817 (Grand Est, 250 BCE)

~28.0% total from two Normandy individuals: UN85 and UN19

Smaller contributions from other individuals (from all three regions)

Conclusion
The genetic profile CDG_scaled is:

Primarily related to Iron Age populations of northeastern France (Grand Est)

With substantial admixture from Normandy, and a minor amount from northern France (Hauts-de-France)

Most similar to individual I20817, suggesting it might represent a local population from around 250 BCE in the Grand Est region

Gannicus
06-14-2025, 04:28 PM
Cool thanks!

OpenAI response:

This output appears to be from a genetic or population genetics analysis, possibly using PCA-based distances or admixture modeling to compare a sample labeled CDG_scaled against a reference panel of ancient or modern individuals from France (prefix FRA) and nearby regions. Here's how to interpret the results:

Overall Structure
Closest Matches to CDG_scaled:
These are listed by increasing distance (closer means more genetically similar), with IDs like FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817__BC_250__Cov_69.30%. This tells you:

Region: GrandEst, Normandy, or Hauts-de-France (all in northern France).

Time period & coverage: BC_250 = roughly 250 BCE (Iron Age), Cov = sequencing coverage.

ID: e.g. I20817 is a specific sample identifier.

Distance: A measure of genetic distance to your target (CDG_scaled).

Top-Level Interpretation:
1. Genetic Affinity
Your sample CDG_scaled is most closely related to individuals from Grand Est and Normandy.

The closest match is FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817 with a distance of 0.0252, which is quite close in PCA/admixture terms.

2. Regional Breakdown
From the second part:

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.8927% / 0.01892655
Regional Contributions:

61.4% Grand Est (Iron Age)

28.0% Normandy (Iron Age)

10.6% Hauts-de-France (Iron Age)

This is essentially a proportional ancestry estimate, showing the sample likely had the majority of its ancestry from Iron Age individuals from Grand Est, with significant components from Normandy and a smaller part from Hauts-de-France.

3. Key Contributing Individuals
A more granular breakdown:

~37.6% from I20817 (Grand Est, 250 BCE)

~28.0% total from two Normandy individuals: UN85 and UN19

Smaller contributions from other individuals (from all three regions)

Conclusion
The genetic profile CDG_scaled is:

Primarily related to Iron Age populations of northeastern France (Grand Est)

With substantial admixture from Normandy, and a minor amount from northern France (Hauts-de-France)

Most similar to individual I20817, suggesting it might represent a local population from around 250 BCE in the Grand Est region

You may want to specify that the admixture tool being used is G25. In my case, previously in the conversation I mentioned that I was using G25.

celticdragongod
06-14-2025, 10:13 PM
You may want to specify that the admixture tool being used is G25. In my case, previously in the conversation I mentioned that I was using G25.

AI response:

Your G25 genetic modeling results from the ancient DNA comparison tool suggest a very strong connection to Iron Age (IA) populations from northeastern France, especially the Grand Est region, as well as Normandy and Hauts-de-France.

Breakdown of Results
�� Top Matching Ancient Samples (Closest Genetic Distance)
The lowest genetic distances (all below 0.05) indicate strong affinity. Your closest match:

FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20817 (BC 250, Cov 69.3%) — Distance: 0.0252

This is an Iron Age individual from Grand Est ~250 BC. You share a substantial amount of DNA with this sample, indicating a deep ancestral link.

Other closely matching individuals include:

FRA_GrandEst_IA:I19362 (BC 250)

FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:att3 (BC 275)

FRA_Normandy_IA:UN85 and UN19 (BC 100)

These are all late Iron Age Celtic individuals, most likely associated with La Tène culture or related regional groups in what is now northern and northeastern France.

�� Regional Ancestry Composition
Target: CDG_scaled (You)

61.4% Grand Est IA — Heavy Iron Age northeastern French ancestry (Champagne, Lorraine, Alsace)

28.0% Normandy IA — Western Celtic influence

10.6% Hauts-de-France IA — Northernmost Celtic France

These regions reflect strong Celtic Gallic roots, specifically Belgae, Lingones, Leuci, or Mediomatrici tribes that lived in these areas before Romanization.

�� Sample Contribution Breakdown
Your modeled ancestry also includes individual contributions from:

Region / Individual Period Contribution
I20817 (Grand Est) BC 250 37.6%
UN85 (Normandy) BC 100 16.4%
UN19 (Normandy) BC 100 11.6%
I19362 (Grand Est) BC 250 8.4%
Gox287B (Grand Est) BC 500 7.8%
COL11 (Grand Est) BC 340 6.8%
BFT228 (Hauts-de-France) BC 337 6.2%
att52 (Hauts-de-France) BC 275 4.4%
I19359 (Grand Est) BC 250 0.8%

�� Interpretation
You have a very strong Iron Age Celtic French profile, especially tied to the northeastern quadrant of France, with additional influences from Normandy and Picardy regions. This is consistent with Gallic ancestry before Roman conquest (~50 BC). If you're French (especially from northern/northeastern France), this is a very typical and historically grounded genetic signature.

R1b-L51
06-18-2025, 07:26 PM
Le vraiment Grand Est de la France!! mais en distance j suis de la prvence

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 4.2945% / 0.04294453
20.2 FRA_GrandEst_IA:Croi12-2__BC_675__Cov_9.03%
19.2 FRA_GrandEst_LBA:BPV1455__BC_800__Cov_10.79%
15.4 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1264__BC_400__Cov_10.85%
13.0 FRA_GrandEst_IA:Jeb8__BC_500__Cov_12.35%
10.2 FRA_Occitanie_IA:PECH8__BC_450__Cov_14.35%
9.2 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:VAS79__BC_400__Cov_14.73%
6.0 FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I13620__BC_300__Cov_17.51%
3.8 FRA_Occitanie_IA:Pech3__BC_212__Cov_9.76%
2.6 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1348__BC_400__Cov_38.65%
0.4 FRA_GrandEst_IA:NOR2B6__BC_750__Cov_18.14%

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 4.2945% / 0.04294453
51.6 FRA_GrandEst_IA
19.2 FRA_GrandEst_LBA
14.0 FRA_Occitanie_IA
9.2 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA
6.0 FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA


Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.04895026 FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19918__BC_300__Cov_62.29%
0.05074238 FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19917__BC_300__Cov_64.87%
0.05287196 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I21399__BC_250__Cov_61.06%
0.05502185 FRA_Occitanie_IA:CLR44__BC_350__Cov_24.08%
0.05504034 FRA_GrandEst_IA:Jeb8__BC_500__Cov_12.35%
0.05729882 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1341__BC_400__Cov_45.30%
0.05745304 FRA_Occitanie_IA:CLR31__BC_350__Cov_26.57%
0.05870922 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1348__BC_400__Cov_38.65%
0.05880772 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1264__BC_400__Cov_10.85%
0.05880876 FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I19916__BC_300__Cov_67.53%
0.05915718 FRA_GrandEst_LBA:BPV1455__BC_800__Cov_10.79%
0.05929547 FRA_Occitanie_IA:CLR24__BC_350__Cov_23.46%
0.05960107 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1349-B__BC_400__Cov_19.41%
0.05970413 FRA_GrandEst_IA:Croi12-2__BC_675__Cov_9.03%
0.06019053 FRA_Provence-Alpes-Côte_d'Azur_IA:I13620__BC_300__Cov_17.51%
0.06041621 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I21402__BC_250__Cov_72.87%
0.06056619 FRA_Occitanie_IA:Pech3__BC_212__Cov_9.76%
0.06084936 FRA_Bourgogne-Franche-Comté_IA:GLN141__BC_200__Cov_56.68%
0.06097408 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I20827__BC_250__Cov_42.75%
0.06110164 FRA_Occitanie_IA:PT7__BC_412__Cov_10.90%
0.06114020 FRA_GrandEst_IA:ERS83-2__BC_250__Cov_9.48%
0.06186916 FRA_GrandEst_IA:COL330__BC_675__Cov_11.68%
0.06231895 FRA_GrandEst_IA:GDF1231__BC_400__Cov_15.14%
0.06287539 FRA_Hauts-de-France_IA:VAS79__BC_400__Cov_14.73%
0.06336480 FRA_GrandEst_IA:I21931__BC_250__Cov_25.00%