DNA Origin report (by Piotr Kapuscinski)

[Gannicus]

Has anyone on here tried it? If so, go ahead share your results too.

Standard mode. Where ancestors lived 900-700 years ago

141020

141021

141022

141023

141024


Recent Mode. 500-400 years.

141025

141026

[celticdragongod]

How much did it cost? Do the results seem accurate to you?

[Gannicus]

How much did it cost? Do the results seem accurate to you?

It cost 12 Euro. In USD it was around 15. It's pretty good. It's basically saying the same thing as other DNA reports. There is a great deal of genetic overlap in Northwest Europe. I'd expect British Isles descended people, especially people with English ancestry to get assigned some admix from the Low Countries.

With G25 (not all sample selections) and other tools like qpAdm, there is a measurable amount of Near Eastern admixture that looks Levantine or North African. Depending on the models it's ~3%-10%. If I go by this test, it could be interpreted that this admixture in my genome occurred during Greco-Roman times and not the Middle Ages.

[Beowulf]

Yes! I made a thread for me and my maternal grandma :)

[Gannicus]

Yes! I made a thread for me and my maternal grandma :)

Dangit! I did a quick search hoping the forum search engine would pick up the key words of the test. Nothing came up so I made this thread.

[Gannicus]

OpenAI breakdown:

Thanks for sharing the images of your Standard Report (900–700 years ago) from the Piotr Kapuscinski ADMIXTURE-based DNA analysis. Here's a breakdown and interpretation:

�� Top-Level Ancestry Breakdown (Countries in Europe)
Your ancestry clusters heavily in Northwestern Europe, with some additional influence from Continental and Eastern Europe.

Country Percentage
United Kingdom 40.90%
Belgium 21.30%
Ireland 20.00%
Netherlands 7.40%
France 6.80%
Russia 1.70%
Germany 1.30%
Finland 0.60%

Interpretation:
You're overwhelmingly rooted in the British Isles + Belgium, with UK, Irish, and Belgian ancestry making up ~82% of your profile. This supports a strong Anglo-Celtic and Low Countries heritage.

��️ Regional Breakdown in Europe
This part zooms in on subnational regions — a key feature of this ADMIXTURE analysis.

Major Regions:

South West England – 27.00%

Kerry, Ireland – 20.00%

Flemish Brabant, Belgium – 19.60%

Wales (Carmarthenshire) – 13.30%

Occitanie (Gard, France) – 6.80%

Limburg (Netherlands) – 6.30%

Minor Contributions (<2% each):
West Flanders, Drenthe, North Karelia (Finland), Westfalen, Niedersachsen, Hessen, Groningen, Cumbria, Staffordshire, Oberschwaben, Central Scotland.

Interpretation:
Your strongest regional ancestry is:

British Isles (SW England, Kerry, Wales, small parts of Scotland & Cumbria)

Low Countries (Flemish Brabant, Limburg)

Some southern French (Occitanie) influence

Minor diffusion into Germany, Finland, and Netherlands

This implies your 900–700-year-ago ancestors were predominantly from Anglo-Celtic Britain, Flanders, and Ireland, with some continental European interaction, possibly through migration, trade, or intermarriage.






Thanks for uploading the Recent Report (500–400 years ago) from your Piotr Kapuscinski DNA test. Here's a summary and analysis comparing it to the Standard Report (900–700 years ago):

�� Global Results
Europe: 100.00%

No detectable ancestry from Africa, Asia, North/South America, Oceania, or Russia in this timeframe.

�� Interpretation: You remain genetically rooted in Europe with no signs of recent admixture from outside the continent—consistent with your known background.

��️ Countries in Europe – Recent Report
Country % Change vs. 900–700 Y.A.
United Kingdom 60.50% ↑ (from 40.9%)
Netherlands 21.50% ↑ (from 7.4%)
Belgium 7.00% ↓ (from 21.3%)
Ireland 4.50% ↓ (from 20.0%)
Germany 2.30% ↑ (from 1.3%)
France 2.10% ≈ (from 6.8%)
Luxembourg 2.10% new

�� Interpretation:

British ancestry (UK) increased significantly, implying your more recent ancestors were even more concentrated in England.

Irish and Belgian components dropped, possibly due to admixture consolidating more within Britain and the Low Countries.

The Dutch and German elements increased, hinting at slightly stronger Continental ties around 1500–1600 CE.

Luxembourg appears for the first time, supporting a consistent Western European thread.

�� Regional Breakdown – Recent Report (Top Regions)
Region %
South West England 26.10%
South East England 12.00%
Limburg (Netherlands) 21.50%
Staffordshire (UK) 7.90%
Wales (Carmarthenshire) 8.40%
West Flanders (Belgium) 7.00%
West Midlands (UK) 6.10%
Kerry (Ireland) 4.50%
Rheinland-Pfalz (Germany) 2.30%
Maine-et-Loire (France) 2.10%
Luxembourg 2.10%

�� Interpretation:

Your English ancestry diversified regionally—with strong representation from SW, SE, Midlands, and Staffordshire.

Limburg emerges as a major source (21.5%)—more so than Flemish Brabant in the older report. This suggests either ancestry from the Dutch-Belgian-German tri-border area or migration within the Low Countries.

Irish (Kerry) and Welsh (Carmarthenshire) remain but with reduced share—possibly reflecting ancestors integrating more into the English gene pool.

German and French regions (Rheinland-Pfalz, Maine-et-Loire) still appear as minor contributions.

�� Comparison to Standard Report (900–700 Y.A.)
Region Shift Summary
���� UK influence increased and diversified — especially England
���� Dutch Limburg replaced Flemish Brabant as main Low Countries origin
���� Belgium decreased, Germany slightly increased
���� Irish contribution shrank, possibly due to admixture dilution
���� French remained a small but persistent signal
���� Chechnya (1.7%) signal disappeared — could indicate deeper ancient ancestry or noise

�� Final Takeaways
Your ancestry remained 100% European between 1300–1600 CE.

You show deep and consistent roots in the British Isles, especially England, with earlier Irish and Belgian input that became more homogenized.

A strong Dutch-Limburg component appeared more clearly in the recent window.

This result aligns well with your prior G25, qpAdm, and known ancestral information — Northwestern European core with subtle Continental ties.

[Peterski]

^^^
Interesting interpretation by AI! Also, I'm glad that you like your results!

[Figaro]

Thinking about this.....Peterski, instruct me how to send some shekels your way, lol...

[Peterski]

Thinking about this.....Peterski, instruct me how to send some shekels your way, lol...

You can order it here - https://www.exploreyourdna.com/DNAOrigin.aspx

You need to enter your name and e-mail and then you will be redirected to a page where you need to upload your raw data file.

[Figaro]

You can order it here - https://www.exploreyourdna.com/DNAOrigin.aspx

You need to enter your name and e-mail and then you will be redirected to a page where you need to upload your raw data file.

Thanks! Just sent request/payment

[Highwayman]

Here’s my Standard:


https://i.ibb.co/SqYR0GQ/IMG-1486.jpg (https://ibb.co/SqYR0GQ) https://i.ibb.co/3Y00fzmT/IMG-1487.jpg (https://ibb.co/3Y00fzmT) https://i.ibb.co/ksnL4nvH/IMG-1488.jpg (https://ibb.co/ksnL4nvH) https://i.ibb.co/YGDNXNc/IMG-1489.jpg (https://ibb.co/YGDNXNc)



and my Recent:

https://i.ibb.co/yTpHKdz/IMG-1490.jpg (https://ibb.co/yTpHKdz) https://i.ibb.co/pBnQvQ5N/IMG-1491.jpg (https://ibb.co/pBnQvQ5N) https://i.ibb.co/60Nx8M3K/IMG-1492.jpg (https://ibb.co/60Nx8M3K)

[Beowulf]

141138

141139

[Gannicus]

141138

141139

Seems to reflect your ancestry quite well.

[Kenshiro]

Standard:
141142
141143
141144
Recent:
141145

[Kenshiro]

You can order it here - https://www.exploreyourdna.com/DNAOrigin.aspx

You need to enter your name and e-mail and then you will be redirected to a page where you need to upload your raw data file.

Very cool, i'm From Apulia and seems having some DNA from Giresun region in Turkey in standard, where can be from?

[Figaro]

My mother's result on Standard (1/2 Polish, 1/4 Danish, 1/4 Swabian+Ashkenazi)

141151

[mariusz99]

My mother's result on Standard (1/2 Polish, 1/4 Danish, 1/4 Swabian+Ashkenazi)

141151

And how about recent?

[Figaro]

And how about recent?

141156

[Peterski]

Very cool, i'm From Apulia and seems having some DNA from Giresun region in Turkey in standard, where can be from?

It can be from Anatolian Greeks, maybe some of Greek colonies in South Italy were also populated by Greeks from Anatolia.

[Flashball]

"This analysis will show you where your ancestors lived 900–700 years ago (Standard Report) and 500–400 years ago (Recent Report)."

If I already know my family tree for the past 400–600 years, are you going to model me according to what’s actually shown in my genealogy?
For example, in a recent ancestry model: for the French part, I wouldn’t expect to get any English, since I have absolutely no English ancestors over the last 400 years.

[Peterski]

"This analysis will show you where your ancestors lived 900–700 years ago (Standard Report) and 500–400 years ago (Recent Report)."

If I already know my family tree for the past 400–600 years, are you going to model me according to what’s actually shown in my genealogy?
For example, in a recent ancestry model: for the French part, I wouldn’t expect to get any English, since I have absolutely no English ancestors over the last 400 years.

If you want I can exclude some countries from analysis (for example I can remove the UK from the algorithm before processing).

[Gannicus]

"This analysis will show you where your ancestors lived 900–700 years ago (Standard Report) and 500–400 years ago (Recent Report)."

If I already know my family tree for the past 400–600 years, are you going to model me according to what’s actually shown in my genealogy?
For example, in a recent ancestry model: for the French part, I wouldn’t expect to get any English, since I have absolutely no English ancestors over the last 400 years.

I don't take the "where your ancestors lived" part too literally. Different populations that are geographically close to one another are also highly likely going to be closely related genetically. I expected a bit more German admixture, but there is going to be some overlap with the low countries and England due to historical movements.

Based on qpAdm, Eurgenes k13, and other DNA admixture tools I expected a subtle Near East reading (~3%). I did score about 1.7% Chechen, which that could be the near east signal I see in other tests. My "Northern" genetics with this algorithm I think shifts the near east signal north to the Caucasus.

[Grace O'Malley]

I did this a while ago.

Recent

https://i.postimg.cc/d0qHTBFx/Screenshot-2025-06-18-105534.png

https://i.postimg.cc/DzkWCj0x/Screenshot-2025-06-18-110949.png

Standard

https://i.postimg.cc/T2qKtJv9/Screenshot-2025-06-18-105808.png

https://i.postimg.cc/zGDKCPLK/Screenshot-2025-06-18-105916.png

[R1b-L51]

I did this a while ago.

Recent

https://i.postimg.cc/d0qHTBFx/Screenshot-2025-06-18-105534.png

https://i.postimg.cc/DzkWCj0x/Screenshot-2025-06-18-110949.png

Standard

https://i.postimg.cc/T2qKtJv9/Screenshot-2025-06-18-105808.png

https://i.postimg.cc/zGDKCPLK/Screenshot-2025-06-18-105916.png

Done -gal (or GAL)

[Peterski]

If I already know my family tree for the past 400–600 years

Do you know all lineages for the past 400-600 years or just your direct male lineage?

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Edit:

Example of French (South-Central French) results in my analysis, no UK in Recent Mode:

https://i.imgur.com/x504YD7.png

https://i.imgur.com/7StTzV3.png

https://i.imgur.com/r85Mgg5.png

Two-Way Approximation is a new feature added to my DNA Origin reports as of today.

[Flashball]

If you want I can exclude some countries from analysis (for example I can remove the UK from the algorithm before processing).

I sent you my (nebula raw data) data and 12 euros.

As for my message above: my father is 99% northern French (with a distant ancestor from Limburg around 1650 -a shepherd who crossed Limburg and then settled in northern France- and a distant ancestor from 1750 from Poitou -Couhé for the town- but genetically, he must be like 99% northern French) and my mother is 50% Sardinian (father) and her mother is 87% northern French (so like my father for the area) + 3% Alsatian + 3% Bavarian and 3% Norman.

I'm afraid that because of this mix, too many samples could lead to a modeling my French part as English because my father leans toward the Eastern Bretons (Gallo area).

[Flashball]

Do you know all lineages for the past 400-600 years or just your direct male lineage?

=====

Edit:

Example of French (South-Central French) results in my analysis, no UK in Recent Mode:

https://i.imgur.com/x504YD7.png

https://i.imgur.com/7StTzV3.png

https://i.imgur.com/r85Mgg5.png

Two-Way Approximation is a new feature added to my DNA Origin reports as of today.

Iberian thing is related to the basque ish thing?

This is the genealogy of my father
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2025/25/5/1750373637-fathergenealogy.jpg

[Peterski]

I sent you my (nebula raw data) data and 12 euros.

As for my message above: my father is 99% northern French (with a distant ancestor from Limburg around 1650 -a shepherd who crossed Limburg and then settled in northern France- and a distant ancestor from 1750 from Poitou -Couhé for the town- but genetically, he must be like 99% northern French) and my mother is 50% Sardinian (father) and her mother is 87% northern French (so like my father for the area) + 3% Alsatian + 3% Bavarian and 3% Norman.

I'm afraid that because of this mix, too many samples could lead to a modeling my French part as English because my father leans toward the Eastern Bretons (Gallo area).

England does not show up in the results.

I will send you 2 versions, one with all populations included and the 2nd one with only northern French + Sardinian regions.


Iberian thing is related to the basque ish thing?

Yeah most probably.

[Peterski]

Okay I will finish all pending reports tomorrow because it is already late here, time to sleep.

[Flashball]

England does not show up in the results.

I will send you 2 versions, one with all populations included and the 2nd one with only northern French + Sardinian regions.



Yeah most probably.

Thanks. Good night. Bonne nuit.

[Kenshiro]

It can be from Anatolian Greeks, maybe some of Greek colonies in South Italy were also populated by Greeks from Anatolia.

Yeah, or maybe migration from Byzantium, very cool

[drb234]

Recent
https://i.postimg.cc/LsXwkdL1/Screenshot-2025-06-20-172813.png
https://i.postimg.cc/d1ZfX8WQ/Screenshot-2025-06-20-172819.png
https://i.postimg.cc/MHkL8v47/Screenshot-2025-06-20-172824.png

Ancient
https://i.postimg.cc/TwR84kyV/Screenshot-2025-06-20-172923.png
https://i.postimg.cc/MTdk2yRh/Screenshot-2025-06-20-172936.png
https://i.postimg.cc/gjJCYnHr/Screenshot-2025-06-20-172945.png

2 way
https://i.postimg.cc/Gh2W6Lr9/image.png

[Flashball]

My results, with differents model

(75% Northern French + 25% Sardinian)

Model 1
https://i.ibb.co/gb55jQVz/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/RpFV6Rjk/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/Wvk3kj54/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/zhpQv2vz/image.png

Model 2
https://i.ibb.co/8DbchNkz/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/JFMmBGZh/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/prhb1YJn/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/YBnDgKQC/image.png

Model 3 (not the best model in my opinion because it contains Spanish samples that have a French-like contribution and some percentages of my maternal French contribution could go in this category because my mother has a pseudo Iberian-North Italian profile, because half northern french and half sardinian, and therefore the model could assume that my mother is Spanish-ish)
https://i.ibb.co/JWCDk9NX/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/xSg9Pn5p/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/mVrSV5bX/image.png


The Best model IMO
Model 4

https://i.ibb.co/ycZYggfR/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/zWF876xR/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/60mBrQ6x/image.png

[Beowulf]

Maternal grandma:

( Mainly spanish + 1/4 Polish )

https://i.postimg.cc/yWR5kXkH/Captura-de-pantalla-2025-06-22-021755.png (https://postimg.cc/yWR5kXkH)


https://i.postimg.cc/4HpFqZrd/Captura-de-pantalla-2025-06-22-021807.png (https://postimg.cc/4HpFqZrd)

[Gannicus]

Maternal grandma:

( Mainly spanish + 1/4 Polish )

https://i.postimg.cc/yWR5kXkH/Captura-de-pantalla-2025-06-22-021755.png (https://postimg.cc/yWR5kXkH)


https://i.postimg.cc/4HpFqZrd/Captura-de-pantalla-2025-06-22-021807.png (https://postimg.cc/4HpFqZrd)

The strongest signatures seem to come from eastern Iberia. Is that correct with your genealogical research?

[Beowulf]

The strongest signatures seem to come from eastern Iberia. Is that correct with your genealogical research?

Well my grandma's ancestry is mainly western Andalusian and some minor Galician and Portuguese, but i must say that since the first time i ordered her G25 coordinates she has shown to be slightly eastern and northern shifted, mybe is just that, a northern shift.

[Figaro]

Well my grandma's ancestry is mainly western Andalusian and some minor Galician and Portuguese, but i must say that since the first time i ordered her G25 coordinates she has shown to be slightly eastern and northern shifted, mybe is just that, a northern shift.

Where does she plot in Europe overall? 1/4 Polish is still significant, must plot in west-central europe or something..

[Beowulf]

Where does she plot in Europe overall? 1/4 Polish is still significant, must plot in west-central europe or something..

She plots among Central Frenchs, swiss and some Catalan samples, like me.


<tbody>
Distance to:
Cristina_Scaled


0.01753402
France:French_Central


0.02325724
Germanic_People_of_CentralEurope:Swiss_German


0.02439559
France:French_North


0.02616786
Iberian_Penninsula:Spanish_East


0.03156700
Iberian_Penninsula:Spanish_West


0.03428886
Iberian_Penninsula:Spanish_Central


0.03453429
Italy:Italian_North


0.03494163
Iberian_Penninsula:Portuguese


0.03576293
France:French_South


0.03686791
Germanic_People_of_CentralEurope:Austrian


0.03977149
Balkan:Romanian


0.04081488
Germanic_People_of_CentralEurope:German


0.04462762
Balkan:Serbian


0.04688704
Balkan:Bulgarian


0.04721322
Carpathian_Basin:Hungarian


0.04755980
Balkan:Croatian


0.04869803
Great_Britain_Ireland:English


0.04941290
Balkan:Slovenian


0.05354020
Great_Britain_Ireland:Orcadian


0.05662230
Great_Britain_Ireland:Irish


0.05832367
Central_Europe:Czech


0.05834739
Scandinavia:Danish


0.06057846
Balkan:Albanian


0.06165037
Scandinavia:Norwegian


0.06524363
Scandinavia:Swedish



</tbody>

[leachim_x]

Iberian thing is related to the basque ish thing?

This is the genealogy of my father
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2025/25/5/1750373637-fathergenealogy.jpg

Hey very detailed map. Which tool did you use for creating?

[R1b-L51]

https://i.postimg.cc/jDptTdtJ/Screenshot-2025-06-24-at-21-56-03-YRDNA-Ancestry-YR7-J9-CUMKG-Standard-pdf.png (https://postimg.cc/jDptTdtJ)

https://i.postimg.cc/Ff0mH5HC/Screenshot-2025-06-24-at-21-56-22-YRDNA-Ancestry-YR7-J9-CUMKG-Standard-pdf.png (https://postimg.cc/Ff0mH5HC)

https://i.postimg.cc/mzR4cXcL/Screenshot-2025-06-24-at-21-56-58-YRDNA-Ancestry-YR7-J9-CUMKG-Standard-pdf.png (https://postimg.cc/mzR4cXcL)

[Flashball]

Hey very detailed map. Which tool did you use for creating?

Geneanet is a French genealogy site that you can browse in English and other languages.

[Flashball]

Northern french father (extra french EEF -LBK+with more WHG- = more western shifted)

https://i.ibb.co/rG6r05Yj/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/TMMjf07z/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/csbq91j/image.png


https://i.ibb.co/rRmB7MrD/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/ZR4Zg5t5/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/zWkv1yJm/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/8405pHND/image.png

[RyoHazuki]

Really disappointed honestly, it looks like a 2x of my results. Way too insular shifted, really 100% Scottish highlander and Irish? I forgot why I stopped spending money on this stuff

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142136
142135

[Beowulf]

Really disappointed honestly, it looks like a 2x of my results. Way too insular shifted, really 100% Scottish highlander and Irish? I forgot why I stopped spending money on this stuff

142134
142136
142135

Try the standard version instead, in my case it was way more accurate for myself :)

[Peterski]

Way too insular shifted, really 100% Scottish highlander and Irish?

Does it contradict other tests which you took? :confused:

Based on my reference pops database your closest single distances are to Scottish and Irish populations:

(and these distances are actually pretty close)

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Europe_GB_Scotland-Highland
0.6960848
Europe_IRL_Connacht
0.7447308
Europe_IRL_Ireland-Munster
0.8171505
Europe_IRL_Donegal
0.8231956
Europe_GB_Scotland-Aberdeenshire
0.8249230
Europe_IRL_Galway
0.8584865
Europe_IRL_Ulster-Irish
0.9010899
(...)

Also in the Two-Way Approximation you can be modelled as either Scottish or Irish + some Germanic:
https://i.imgur.com/1eb0PvN.png

Can you send me your GEDmatch kit number (if you are on GEDmatch)? I will double check something.

[Beowulf]

Does it contradict other tests which you took?

Based on my reference pops database your closest single distances are to Scottish and Irish populations:

(and these distances are actually pretty close)

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Europe_GB_Scotland-Highland
0.6960848
Europe_IRL_Connacht
0.7447308
Europe_IRL_Ireland-Munster
0.8171505
Europe_IRL_Donegal
0.8231956
Europe_GB_Scotland-Aberdeenshire
0.8249230
Europe_IRL_Galway
0.8584865
Europe_IRL_Ulster-Irish
0.9010899
(...)

Also in the Two-Way Approximation you can be modelled as either Scottish or Irish + a bit of Germanic.

Can you send me your GEDmatch kit number (if you are on GEDmatch)? I will double check something.

Hi Peterski! I have a question when i took the test it was before you implemented distances and the two way approximation so i wanted to ask that if i wanted to know mine must i pay again for the test or could you send me those in private?

Thanks in advance.

[Peterski]

Hi Peterski! I have a question when i took the test it was before you implemented distances and the two way approximation so i wanted to ask that if i wanted to know mine must i pay again for the test or could you send me those in private?

Thanks in advance.

I will send you in private. Just please tell me what was your customer code (the one on page 1 of your report).

[RyoHazuki]

Does it contradict other tests which you took? :confused:

Based on my reference pops database your closest single distances are to Scottish and Irish populations:

(and these distances are actually pretty close)

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Europe_GB_Scotland-Highland
0.6960848
Europe_IRL_Connacht
0.7447308
Europe_IRL_Ireland-Munster
0.8171505
Europe_IRL_Donegal
0.8231956
Europe_GB_Scotland-Aberdeenshire
0.8249230
Europe_IRL_Galway
0.8584865
Europe_IRL_Ulster-Irish
0.9010899
(...)

Also in the Two-Way Approximation you can be modelled as either Scottish or Irish + some Germanic:
https://i.imgur.com/1eb0PvN.png

Can you send me your GEDmatch kit number (if you are on GEDmatch)? I will double check something.

I don't know how that's possible, contradicts almost all tests I've taken. Wayyyyy to Northern/Insular for my Steppe/Farmer/WHG/Iberomaurissian mix.

I'm not very close to most purely Scottish/Irish members on here.

[RyoHazuki]

...

[RyoHazuki]

Try the standard version instead, in my case it was way more accurate for myself :)

Mine are nearly the same.

[Gannicus]

I don't know how that's possible, contradicts almost all tests I've taken. Wayyyyy to Northern/Insular for my Steppe/Farmer/WHG/Iberomaurissian mix.

I'm not very close to most purely Scottish/Irish members on here.

You and I score sometimes similar admixes on G25. There was a members G25 thread where I think you were in my top 10 closest.

[RyoHazuki]

You and I score sometimes similar admixes on G25. There was a members G25 thread where I think you were in my top 10 closest.

Yes you and Celestia were some of the closest users to me. I get close to Anglo-French/German mixes. For comparison my 23andme and Ancestry results
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142151
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142152

[Peterski]

When using this tool you are also most similar to Scottish and Irish populations:

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/similitude.htm


https://i.imgur.com/YOmOOpT.png


Maybe part of the problem is with the raw data file.

I use 200,000 markers in my test but 23andMe v5 raw data has just 50,000 markers overlapping with the ones I use.

This might explain why the French/German admixture got reduced.

The best kind of raw data for my test is the one from Ancestry.com.

However, in Two-Way Approximation you still scored 16% Germany and in Standard Mode you scored 9% Germany.

[RyoHazuki]

When using this tool you are also most similar to Scottish and Irish populations:

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/similitude.htm

https://i.imgur.com/YOmOOpT.png

Yes I've seen this before but it's not perfect. My 25 is drifted so I don't know what's happening here

[RyoHazuki]

Maybe part of the problem is with the raw data file.

I use 200,000 markers in my test but 23andMe v5 raw data has just 50,000 markers overlapping with the ones I use.

This might explain why the French/German admixture got reduced.

The best kind of raw data for my test is the one from Ancestry.com.

However, in Two-Way Approximation you still scored 16% Germany and in Standard Mode you scored 9% Germany.

That makes sense. Sorry to sound rude. Thank you.

[Peterski]

My 25 is drifted so I don't know what's happening here

Your Global25 is drifted?

BTW if you ever get tested with Ancestry.com message me and I will re-test you for free with Ancestry raw data.

[RyoHazuki]

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[RyoHazuki]

Your Global25 is drifted?

BTW if you ever get tested with Ancestry.com message me and I will re-test you for free with Ancestry raw data.

A bit, yes. My closest pop is cornwall at 2.9, the rest are 3.0-4.0

[Gannicus]

A bit, yes. My closest pop is cornwall at 2.9, the rest are 3.0-4.0

Ryo, do you have known ancestry from Southern France and Spain?

[RyoHazuki]

Ryo, do you have known ancestry from Southern France and Spain?

Yes of course. Why?

[Gannicus]

Yes.

See, that's intriguing to me. You and I score similar admixtures, yet I don't have any known recent southern European ancestry. Besides the majority British Isles ancestry, it's French from the north, Belgian, and German.

[RyoHazuki]

See, that's intriguing to me. You and I score similar admixtures, yet I don't have any known recent southern European ancestry. Just French from the north, Belgian, and German.

It's explained by Northern French people having more Farmer and WHG ancestry. Also, you are probably even more Northern French than I am Southern French who are mostly Farmer. It reflects in your modeling which is how we come out similar. Germans, Belgians and North French are not very northern compared to Isles and Dutch ppl.

Someone who is mostly british with some SW european input will still mostly resemble other Western europeans.

Target: French_Pas-de-Calais
Distance: 3.6170% / 0.03617000
44.4 TUR_Barcin_N
41.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.2 WHG

Target: French_Paris
Distance: 3.9803% / 0.03980317
47.0 TUR_Barcin_N
40.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.4 WHG

Target: French_Nord
Distance: 3.4840% / 0.03484007
45.8 TUR_Barcin_N
42.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.0 WHG

Target: French_Alsace
Distance: 3.4312% / 0.03431158
46.4 TUR_Barcin_N
42.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.6 WHG

[RyoHazuki]

See, that's intriguing to me. You and I score similar admixtures, yet I don't have any known recent southern European ancestry. Besides the majority British Isles ancestry, it's French from the north, Belgian, and German.

This average I made is predictably very similar to my result, with my Southern French/Basque input being about 1/4.

Target: English+Scottish+Irish+Barcelona_Avg
Distance: 4.3955% / 0.04395484
44.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
41.6 TUR_Barcin_N
14.0 WHG

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 6.2645% / 0.06264523
46.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
40.0 TUR_Barcin_N
13.4 WHG
0.2 ETH_4500BP

Distance to: English+Scottish+Irish+Barcelona_Avg
0.00683720 French_Brittany
0.01162375 Welsh
0.01178480 English_Cornwall
0.01182391 BelgianA
0.01300055 English
0.01629824 Dutch
0.01666110 BelgianB
0.01719948 Scottish
0.01810130 Orcadian
0.01814545 French_Nord
0.01906224 BelgianC
0.01988162 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02047548 Irish
0.02095258 German
0.02100462 Afrikaner
0.02116408 French_Paris
0.02259447 French_Alsace
0.02478201 French_Seine-Maritime
0.02500594 Swiss_German
0.02540642 Shetlandic
0.02629066 Danish
0.02769049 German_Erlangen
0.02869921 Norwegian
0.03009184 Icelandic
0.03101742 German_Hamburg

Distance to: Ryo_scaled
0.02938377 English_Cornwall
0.03018346 English
0.03070760 Orcadian
0.03136714 BelgianA
0.03171009 Scottish
0.03328947 Welsh
0.03387173 Dutch
0.03474349 French_Brittany
0.03537740 Afrikaner
0.03556179 Irish
0.03836173 Shetlandic
0.03871967 German
0.03878046 Danish
0.03900142 Icelandic
0.03975076 French_Nord
0.04004735 Norwegian
0.04007709 BelgianC
0.04095121 BelgianB
0.04142053 French_Alsace
0.04182991 German_Hamburg
0.04266742 German_Erlangen
0.04271935 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04335418 Swiss_German
0.04360351 French_Paris
0.04492441 French_Pas-de-Calais

[Gannicus]

It's explained by Northern French people having more Farmer and WHG ancestry. Also, you are probably even more Northern French than I am Southern French who are mostly Farmer. It reflects in your modeling which is how we come out similar. Germans, Belgians and North French are not very northern compared to Isles and Dutch ppl.

Someone who is mostly british with some SW european input will still mostly resemble other Western europeans.

Target: French_Pas-de-Calais
Distance: 3.6170% / 0.03617000
44.4 TUR_Barcin_N
41.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.2 WHG

Target: French_Paris
Distance: 3.9803% / 0.03980317
47.0 TUR_Barcin_N
40.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.4 WHG

Target: French_Nord
Distance: 3.4840% / 0.03484007
45.8 TUR_Barcin_N
42.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.0 WHG

Target: French_Alsace
Distance: 3.4312% / 0.03431158
46.4 TUR_Barcin_N
42.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.6 WHG

This seems to be a popular thought that I have heard before. It may be the full answer or part of it. I think that there may be some post neolithic influence from Med/MENA too. If you have combed through the G25 samples, you'll see that archaeologists found ancient remains of an autosomally near eastern man in Britain from the Roman period.

[Gannicus]

This average I made is predictably very similar to my result, with my Southern French/Basque input being about 1/4.

Target: English+Scottish+Irish+Barcelona_Avg
Distance: 4.3955% / 0.04395484
44.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
41.6 TUR_Barcin_N
14.0 WHG

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 6.2645% / 0.06264523
46.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
40.0 TUR_Barcin_N
13.4 WHG
0.2 ETH_4500BP

Distance to: English+Scottish+Irish+Barcelona_Avg
0.00683720 French_Brittany
0.01162375 Welsh
0.01178480 English_Cornwall
0.01182391 BelgianA
0.01300055 English
0.01629824 Dutch
0.01666110 BelgianB
0.01719948 Scottish
0.01810130 Orcadian
0.01814545 French_Nord
0.01906224 BelgianC
0.01988162 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02047548 Irish
0.02095258 German
0.02100462 Afrikaner
0.02116408 French_Paris
0.02259447 French_Alsace
0.02478201 French_Seine-Maritime
0.02500594 Swiss_German
0.02540642 Shetlandic
0.02629066 Danish
0.02769049 German_Erlangen
0.02869921 Norwegian
0.03009184 Icelandic
0.03101742 German_Hamburg

Distance to: Ryo_scaled
0.02938377 English_Cornwall
0.03018346 English
0.03070760 Orcadian
0.03136714 BelgianA
0.03171009 Scottish
0.03328947 Welsh
0.03387173 Dutch
0.03474349 French_Brittany
0.03537740 Afrikaner
0.03556179 Irish
0.03836173 Shetlandic
0.03871967 German
0.03878046 Danish
0.03900142 Icelandic
0.03975076 French_Nord
0.04004735 Norwegian
0.04007709 BelgianC
0.04095121 BelgianB
0.04142053 French_Alsace
0.04182991 German_Hamburg
0.04266742 German_Erlangen
0.04271935 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04335418 Swiss_German
0.04360351 French_Paris
0.04492441 French_Pas-de-Calais

The first 3 top closest on that sim are in the same order as I am. Pretty interesting.

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02110388 French_Brittany
0.02232377 Welsh
0.02363992 English_Cornwall
0.02388696 English
0.02540987 Dutch