People who got their g25 from illutrativeDNA

[CuriousUser]

Some including me got completely wrong coordinates (horn of afrika, bantu, khoi san etc). I was told those are scaled coords and i have to convert them to unscaled.
Has anyone similar issues?

[drb234]

Illustrative doesnt do G25 anymore, they have their own knock-off clone of it. That's probably why you are getting weird results

[CuriousUser]

Illustrative doesnt do G25 anymore, they have their own knock-off clone of it. That's probably why you are getting weird results

Other than davidski, where else can i get it?

[AndreiDNA]

Illustrative are no longer using G25. They broke off with Davidsky and made their new system. They arent selling "simulated coords" as some have said, they made a whole different system.

[CuriousUser]

I got g25 coords from DNAgenics for each chromosome.

[Beowulf]

I got g25 coords from DNAgenics for each chromosome.

Those aren't the real ones neither by disgrace.

[CuriousUser]

Those aren't the real ones neither by disgrace.

No one has the patent for the “real” coordinates. Its a made up construct. The calculators too are like random horoscope gambling. I get different results with every calc.

[Gannicus]

No one has the patent for the “real” coordinates. Its a made up construct. The calculators too are like random horoscope gambling. I get different results with every calc.
Sample selection dictates results. And the reason that the results vary is because of random samples + giant blocks of populations are related to one another genetically. DNA doesn't care about borders. Calling it horoscopes is false. G25 does however take a backseat to academic tools like qpAdm.

[Wend-Kruzek]

Exactly. DNA is without boundaries.:D And nothing is 100%, not even qpAdm. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.04.25.538339v6
G25 /Vahaduo is a usable and user-friendly tool, with reasonable results. If you have Y_DNA , it's better. You can play with it.
Example: if you are Spanish from Barcelona and you know that your ancestors are from Spain but you have, for example, my R1a YP1337 so it must have got there somehow. Visigoths, Vandals, or as a slave.

[Gannicus]

Exactly. DNA is without boundaries.:D And nothing is 100%, not even qpAdm. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.04.25.538339v6
G25 /Vahaduo is a usable and user-friendly tool, with reasonable results. If you have Y_DNA , it's better. You can play with it.
Example: if you are Spanish from Barcelona and you know that your ancestors are from Spain but you have, for example, my R1a YP1337 so it must have got there somehow. Visigoths, Vandals, or as a slave.

That's where testing over and over and seeing a similar pattern arise using qpAdm and G25. And then analyzing results with historical plausibility.

[Wend-Kruzek]

That's where testing over and over and seeing a similar pattern arise using qpAdm and G25. And then analyzing results with historical plausibility.

Archaeo-genetics and population-genetics is very young in its development. I believe we will discover more possibilities. But it needs more samples and enthusiasts.