Familytreedna confirmed, the Finnish I1 is 2200-2600 years old

[Lemminkäinen]

A new Familytreedna's report connects your Ydna to ancient samples. Here is mine. CTS7676 and its downstrean mutations are purely Swedish, with only exception of the L287, which is purely Finnish. Only L287s found in Scandinavia have had Finnish roots. So the shift from Sweden to Finland happened between mutations CTS7676 and L287. In this time frame Scandinavians spoke proto-Germanic. Finnish researchers yet deny that Germanic language was spoken in Finland before Swedish crusades.

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[Dick]

I1 is still from indigenous Europeans that cucked the Neolithic farmers and then cucked the proto-germanics though

[Lemminkäinen]

I1 is still from indigenous Europeans that cucked the Neolithic farmers and then cucked the proto-germanics though

Maybe. Here is a new article about migrations in Iron Age Scandinavia and North Europe.
https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/uk/2025/01/01/some-ancient-romans-in-the-uk-descended-from-early-iron-age-scandinavia-study-finds/

I1 men were part of the first and the third migration. The second brought more R1b to Scandinavia. You can find the corresponding study:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08275-2

[Dick]

Maybe. Here is a new article about migrations in Iron Age Scandinavia and North Europe.
https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/uk/2025/01/01/some-ancient-romans-in-the-uk-descended-from-early-iron-age-scandinavia-study-finds/

I1 men were part of the first and the third migration. The second brought more R1b to Scandinavia. You can find the corresponding study:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08275-2

I’m just being a dick but yes you’re right. I1 was spread by Volkwanderung in Europe. The early Anglo-Saxon graves in England are all I1, the east Goth samples from Poland are all I1 and now Visigoth samples from Spain.

Samples from Visigoth tombs in Spain were recently uploaded to Yfull.



https://i.imgur.com/bNZc3Yp.png

My subclade is downstream from the sample, like everyone else in this tree of course.

[Lemminkäinen]

I’m just being a dick but yes you’re right. I1 was spread by Volkwanderung in Europe. The early Anglo-Saxon graves in England are all I1, the east Goth samples from Poland are all I1 and now Visigoth samples from Spain.

Samples from Visigoth tombs in Spain were recently uploaded to Yfull.



https://i.imgur.com/bNZc3Yp.png

My subclade is downstream from the sample, like everyone else in this tree of course.

Interesting. I have not followed the research of ancient I1 samples, just noticed new reports at FtDna.