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gixajo
07-06-2025, 10:05 PM
Don´t expect fantastic distances for everyone.

Not for fun, this is very serious.

Scaled

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/


Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med,0.111386,0.156954,-0.003282,-0.059618,0.028434,-0.022661,-0.00211,-0.000736,0.019925,0.047072,0.001575,0.008981,-0.014049,-0.005238,-0.013039,-0.001358,0.008256,-0.000396,0.00245,-0.007626,-0.002136,0.000047,-0.005814,-0.009358,-0.00033
Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic,0.133243,0.1286 32,0.076002,0.067661,0.04244,0.025349,0.007861,0.0 11276,0.001064,-0.017074,-0.00437,-0.004092,0.006503,0.010429,0.004258,0.003501,-0.002298,0.00087,0.002728,0.00356,0.001244,-0.000945,0.0045,0.003412,0.000352
Tajiks&Pamiris:Tajik,0.091838,0.010983,-0.02855,0.021862,-0.04612,0.01694,0.006273,0.000908,-0.027868,-0.021143,-0.008213,-0.000056,-0.000241,-0.008154,0.011217,0.012438,-0.003962,0.000413,0.001525,-0.007896,-0.007417,-0.003805,0.000153,0.000945,0.00354
Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri,0.08918,0.010622,-0.037731,0.048318,-0.050025,0.027903,0.00442,-0.000893,-0.025428,-0.02427,-0.00935,-0.000806,-0.000862,-0.013945,0.015137,0.012433,-0.003037,0.00031,0.000931,-0.007441,-0.00644,-0.002347,0.001585,0.000768,0.001933

gixajo
07-06-2025, 10:06 PM
No Tajik on me...:picard1:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.0965% / 0.04096455
54.0 Mediterranean
46.0 Northern_Europe

Fabricius
07-06-2025, 10:24 PM
I could be the rightful king of the transnational world and bring peace!

Target: Fabricius_K13-G25
Distance: 6.2806% / 0.06280609
49.2 Mediterranean
48.2 Northern_Europe
2.6 Tajiks&Pamiris

Target: Fabricius_K15-G25
Distance: 6.3817% / 0.06381651
49.2 Mediterranean
47.2 Northern_Europe
3.6 Tajiks&Pamiris

Target: Fabricius_K36-G25
Distance: 6.2662% / 0.06266209
53.6 Mediterranean
41.8 Northern_Europe
4.6 Tajiks&Pamiris

Target: Fabricius_MyHeritage-to-g25(simulated)
Distance: 6.0308% / 0.06030821
51.6 Mediterranean
40.4 Northern_Europe
8.0 Tajiks&Pamiris

Rĉdwald
07-06-2025, 10:46 PM
Target: Rĉdwald
Distance: 3.2518% / 0.03251820
75.0 Northern_Europe
20.6 Mediterranean
4.4 Tajiks&Pamiris

Target: Rĉdwald_k36-g25
Distance: 3.6331% / 0.03633074
76.4 Northern_Europe
19.8 Mediterranean
3.8 Tajiks&Pamiris

Tacitus
07-06-2025, 10:59 PM
Target: Tacitus_G25sim
Distance: 3.4418% / 0.03441803
80.2 Mediterranean
10.6 Northern_Europe
9.2 Tajiks&Pamiris

Opie
07-06-2025, 11:04 PM
Target: Opie
Distance: 5.2995% / 0.05299459
55.8 Tajiks&Pamiris
44.2 Mediterranean

I am a glorious Tajik.

Gannicus
07-06-2025, 11:15 PM
Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0478% / 0.04776540
72.2 Northern_Europe
27.8 Mediterranean

Altaylardan Tunaya
07-06-2025, 11:33 PM
Target: Ice_scaled
Distance: 3.5658% / 0.03565836
63.4 Tajiks&Pamiris
36.6 Mediterranean


https://shared.fastly.steamstatic.com/store_item_assets/steam/apps/2136550/capsule_616x353.jpg?t=1730909773

Beowulf
07-06-2025, 11:37 PM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0250% / 0.02496382
51.1 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
48.9 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med

celticdragongod
07-07-2025, 12:01 AM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.05089667 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
0.15567900 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med
0.19091722 Tajiks&Pamiris:Tajik
0.19622947 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 4.0684% / 0.04068364
82.6 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
16.8 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med
0.6 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri

RyoHazuki
07-07-2025, 04:37 AM
0% Aryan

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 5.0165% / 0.05016465
75.8 Northern_Europe
24.0 Mediterranean
0.2 Tajiks&Pamiris

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 3.2695% / 0.03269525
74.2 Northern_Europe
25.8 Mediterranean

Dr.Fiskero
07-07-2025, 07:11 AM
Target: FISK
Distance: 2.2186% / 0.02218550
95.8 Mediterranean
4.2 Northern_Europe

Defcon2
07-07-2025, 08:20 AM
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 5.0988% / 0.05098822
60.8 Mediterranean
39.0 Northern_Europe
0.2 Tajiks&Pamiris

tk'es
07-07-2025, 08:29 AM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 0.0368% / 0.03681110
86.1 Ciscaucasia
11.8 Northern_Europe
2.1 Tajiks&Pamiris

Shardana
07-07-2025, 09:30 AM
Target: Shardana_G25_Scaled
Distance: 7.1364% / 0.07136424
90.0 Mediterranean
10.0 Northern_Europe

Gallop
07-07-2025, 09:43 AM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 4.5277% / 0.04527728
55.0 Mediterranean
45.0 Northern_Europe

:flamenco:

leachim_x
07-07-2025, 10:02 AM
Target: Lx_K36
Distance: 2.7860% / 0.02786049
76.2 Northern_Europe
23.8 Mediterranean

Distance to: Lx_K36
0.05121254 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
0.14064303 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med
0.19081532 Tajiks&Pamiris:Tajik
0.19786733 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri

ScandinavianCelt
07-07-2025, 12:07 PM
Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 0.0329% / 0.03286940
77.8 Northern_Europe
15.3 Mediterranean
6.9 Tajiks&Pamiris

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 0.0354% / 0.03543509 | ADC: 1x RC
82.6 Northern_Europe
17.4 Mediterranean

Grace O'Malley
07-07-2025, 12:39 PM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 4.4359% / 0.04435881
84.8 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
14.2 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med
1.0 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri

JerryS.
07-07-2025, 01:10 PM
Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 3.7123% / 0.03712264
73.8 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
24.8 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med
1.4 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 3.7226% / 0.03722623 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.8 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
25.2 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med

gixajo
07-07-2025, 04:07 PM
In the end, most of my improvised calculators are the ones that work best.:picard1:

Defcon2
07-07-2025, 05:15 PM
In the end, most of my improvised calculators are the ones that work best.:picard1:

More simple = better.

gixajo
07-07-2025, 05:17 PM
More simple = better.

Applying it to admixture calculators, yes.

On other topics...it depends.

cass
07-07-2025, 05:52 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 1.0555% / 0.01055538
89.4 Northern_Europe
9.8 Mediterranean
0.8 Tajiks&Pamiris

Albannach
07-07-2025, 05:53 PM
Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 4.6515% / 0.04651518
84.4 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
14.6 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med
1.0 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri

Vessna
07-07-2025, 06:07 PM
Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 3.8119% / 0.03811899
98.0 Northern_Europe
2.0 Tajiks&Pamiris

PaulieVanZant
07-07-2025, 06:12 PM
:(

Target: Paulie_Scaled
Distance: 3.0370% / 0.03036962
84.8 Northern_Europe
15.2 Mediterranean

Figaro
07-07-2025, 06:31 PM
Whew!


Target: giordanofather
Distance: 2.7148% / 0.02714828
79.0 Northern_Europe
20.2 Mediterranean
0.8 Tajiks&Pamiris

Target: giordanomother
Distance: 1.5132% / 0.01513153
81.6 Northern_Europe
14.6 Mediterranean
3.8 Tajiks&Pamiris

nrinehi
07-07-2025, 06:39 PM
Target: nrinehi
Distance: 3.0532% / 0.03053205
99.8 Northern_Europe
0.2 Tajiks&Pamiris

cass
07-07-2025, 07:37 PM
Target: nrinehi
Distance: 3.0532% / 0.03053205
99.8 Northern_Europe
0.2 Tajiks&Pamiris

Wow, exceptionally homogeneous — probably close to Proto-Balto-Slavic according to Vyazov.
https://i.ibb.co/MkvsDQMr/vyaz.jpg (https://ibb.co/XxQbZMS1)

Did you try any other ancient ancestry calculators?

Dušan
07-07-2025, 08:32 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 3.7089% / 0.03708901
64.6 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
33.4 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med
2.0 Tajiks&Pamiris:Tajik

Pohjanpoika
07-07-2025, 08:36 PM
Distance to: Pohjanpoika_scaled
0.05071983 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
0.17788761 Tajiks&Pamiris:Tajik
0.18042703 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri
0.20259900 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med

Target: Pohjanpoika_scaled
Distance: 4.4432% / 0.04443158
87.8 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
12.2 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri

Distance to: Pohjanpoika_father_scaled
0.05261299 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
0.18815900 Tajiks&Pamiris:Tajik
0.19154777 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri
0.20421717 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med

Target: Pohjanpoika_father_scaled
Distance: 5.0554% / 0.05055396
92.6 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
7.2 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri
0.2 Tajiks&Pamiris:Tajik

PaulieVanZant
07-07-2025, 08:44 PM
Distance to: Pohjanpoika_scaled
0.05071983 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
0.17788761 Tajiks&Pamiris:Tajik
0.18042703 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri
0.20259900 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med

Target: Pohjanpoika_scaled
Distance: 4.4432% / 0.04443158
87.8 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
12.2 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri

Distance to: Pohjanpoika_father_scaled
0.05261299 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
0.18815900 Tajiks&Pamiris:Tajik
0.19154777 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri
0.20421717 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med

Target: Pohjanpoika_father_scaled
Distance: 5.0554% / 0.05055396
92.6 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
7.2 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri
0.2 Tajiks&Pamiris:Tajik

I dont suppose you`re willing to trade your Tajik for my Med?

Katarzyna
07-07-2025, 08:55 PM
Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 2.2261% / 0.02226114
99.2 Northern_Europe
0.8 Tajiks&Pamiris


Hehehe

#Oda#
07-07-2025, 09:13 PM
Target: #Oda#_simulated.1_scaled
Distance: 2.9935% / 0.02993495
84.0 Northern_Europe
16.0 Mediterranean

Target: #Oda#_Davidski_scaled
Distance: 3.4467% / 0.03446687
83.6 Northern_Europe
16.2 Mediterranean
0.2 Tajiks&Pamiris

Target: #Oda#_simulated.2_scaled
Distance: 3.0781% / 0.03078142
84.2 Northern_Europe
15.8 Mediterranean

gixajo
07-07-2025, 10:08 PM
Congratulations to everyone who scored high in Mediterranean. To everyone else, I'm so sorry.:picard1:

Lard
07-07-2025, 10:45 PM
Target: Lard_scaled
Distance: 2.4824% / 0.02482419
67.2 Mediterranean
22.6 Tajiks&Pamiris
10.2 Northern_Europe

Figaro
07-07-2025, 10:49 PM
Target: Lard_scaled
Distance: 2.4824% / 0.02482419
67.2 Mediterranean
22.6 Tajiks&Pamiris
10.2 Northern_Europe

That’s a lot in the Tajik+Pamiri. What is your background?

Lard
07-07-2025, 11:09 PM
That’s a lot in the Tajik+Pamiri. What is your background?

This heat map reflects my background — it gives a clearer picture of the ancestry breakdown behind those results.
Here's the heat map showing my background:

https://i.ibb.co/1JpGTJ6T/8888888888888888.png

Katarzyna
07-07-2025, 11:14 PM
Congratulations to everyone who scored high in Mediterranean. To everyone else, I'm so sorry.:picard1:

Yes, as a Baltic HG I will never be as white as you and Oetzi. I am so so jealous now. :P

Luke35
07-08-2025, 12:25 AM
Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 1.8626% / 0.01862641
67.6 Northern_Europe
26.0 Mediterranean
6.4 Tajiks&Pamiris

Coastal Elite
07-08-2025, 01:55 AM
Target: CE_scaled
Distance: 2.7229% / 0.02722892
60.2 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
34.2 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med
5.6 Tajiks&Pamiris:Tajik

nrinehi
07-08-2025, 08:54 PM
Wow, exceptionally homogeneous — probably close to Proto-Balto-Slavic according to Vyazov.
https://i.ibb.co/MkvsDQMr/vyaz.jpg (https://ibb.co/XxQbZMS1)

Did you try any other ancient ancestry calculators?

I'm still going off simulated so I suppose there is some error to that. I should get real co-ors this week. :D

I have tried IllustrativeDNA - it gives me back similar stuff to what simulated G25 does, places me with Medieval Poles (average Poles now seem to have more western-shifted ancestry? Probably from medieval western colonists). If you all know any that are cool I would be glad to try - so far I have also played with some on ExploreYourDNA and DNAGenics.

On Ancestry I have ~2% Jewish (and I have found some likely paper trail in that direction). Otherwise I'm European, and Ashkenazi itself is like 50% European iirc. Anecdotally, I've finished building a tree for one branch of my family so far and all from that branch come from a small circle in Masovia up to mid-late 17th century (even suggested by specifically local surnames of some).

Narration
07-08-2025, 09:50 PM
Distance to: Narration_simulated_g25_scaled
0.09303274 Tajiks&Pamiris:Tajik
0.11355397 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri
0.14054789 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med
0.18369263 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic

Target: Narration_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 4.8597% / 0.04859688
62.4 Tajiks&Pamiris
37.6 Mediterranean

AndreiDNA
07-08-2025, 10:14 PM
Target: AndreiKharchenko_scaled
Distance: 4.3992% / 0.04399200
88.8 Northern_Europe
11.2 Tajiks&Pamiris

gixajo
07-08-2025, 10:23 PM
Yes, as a Baltic HG I will never be as white as you and Oetzi. I am so so jealous now. :P

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

vader
07-11-2025, 01:20 AM
Target: AncestryDNA_scaled
Distance: 4.7861% / 0.04786124
58.6 Mediterranean
41.4 Northern_Europe

nrinehi
07-11-2025, 10:07 AM
Updated result on real co-ordinates

Target: nrinehi
Distance: 4.3520% / 0.04351981
100.0 Northern_Europe

Feiichy
07-11-2025, 02:46 PM
Target: Feiichy_scaled
Distance: 0.0339% / 0.03387818

73.5 Northern_Europe
25.7 Mediterranean
0.8 Tajiks&Pamiris

unmoggable
07-11-2025, 08:13 PM
Target: unmoggable
Distance: 4.0469% / 0.04046852
71.6 Northern_Europe
24.0 Mediterranean
4.4 Tajiks&Pamiris

0.06171394 Northern_Europe:Scandinavia+Baltic
0.14121287 Mediterranean:East-Med+West-Med
0.18105279 Tajiks&Pamiris:Tajik
0.18762839 Tajiks&Pamiris:Pamiri

Pedro Ruben
07-14-2025, 09:33 AM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 5.0357% / 0.05035695
55.8 Mediterranean
42.4 Northern_Europe
1.8 Tajiks&Pamiris

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 5.7047% / 0.05704710
58.2 Mediterranean
40.8 Northern_Europe
1.0 Tajiks&Pamiris

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 5.0466% / 0.05046575
55.6 Mediterranean
44.4 Northern_Europe

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
07-14-2025, 10:50 AM
Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 3.9426% / 0.03942642
59.2 Mediterranean
40.8 Northern_Europe

vasiliki23
07-29-2025, 03:51 PM
Target: VASILIKI_scaled
Distance: 3.2098% / 0.03209824
62.8 Mediterranean
34.8 Northern_Europe
2.4 Tajiks&Pamiris

Ryujin
08-04-2025, 12:20 AM
Target: Scaled_G25_Ryujin

Distance: 3.1508% / 0.03150841

54.0 Mediterranean
34.2 Tajiks&Pamiris
11.8 Northern_Europe

Andullero
08-04-2025, 12:25 AM
Target: Andullero
Distance: 24.9087% / 0.24908659
51.0 Mediterranean
48.2 Tajiks&Pamiris
0.8 Northern_Europe

Yay, Tajik enough for Oliverio's sensitivities. :rolleyes:

JohnDoe22
08-04-2025, 12:40 AM
Target: JohnDoe
Distance: 1.7706% / 0.01770587
68.6 Northern_Europe
31.4 Mediterranean

it could be 70% and 30%..Lol

why so many people got tajiks and co?