Hitler’s DNA: Why Are We Still Not Allowed to Know the Truth?

[Lard]

Thread: Hitler's DNA, His Teeth, and the Historical Truth We're Not Allowed to Touch

The myth that "Hitler was part Jewish" has hovered on the fringe of public consciousness for decades. Most mainstream historians wave it off as a rumor, a psychological projection, or post-war irony. But the deeper you dig, the stranger—and more suspicious—the silence becomes.

1. The Hans Frank Testimony
At Nuremberg, Hans Frank—Hitler's personal lawyer and Governor-General of occupied Poland—claimed that Hitler privately asked him to investigate his ancestry. Frank alleged he found evidence of Jewish ancestry through Hitler's paternal line. This has never been definitively proven or disproven.

2. The Illegitimacy of Alois Hitler
Hitler's father, Alois, was born out of wedlock in Braunau am Inn. His biological grandfather remains unidentified to this day. One persistent rumor claims that Maria Schicklgruber, Hitler’s grandmother, became pregnant while working in a Jewish household in Graz. This raises the question: were there even Jews in Graz at the time?

3. But Jews Didn't Live in Graz? Think Again.
This claim—that Jews didn’t live in Graz when Maria Schicklgruber supposedly worked there—has long been used to dismiss the theory of Jewish ancestry. But psychiatrist and researcher Dr. Leonard Sax examined this assertion in detail. In his peer-reviewed paper, Sax provides documentary evidence that Jews did, in fact, reside in Graz during the relevant period. He dismantles the long-held notion that Styria (the region Graz is in) was completely Jew-free before 1860. Not only were Jews living there, but Sax argues it's plausible Maria worked in a Jewish household. In other words, the foundation of the denial may be built more on political convenience than archival truth.Leonard Sax study (Sci-Hub mirror) (https://sci-hub.se/10.1177/0047244119837477)
4. DNA Testing: They Did It, But Not Really
In 2010, Belgian journalists obtained DNA from Hitler's living male relatives. The result? Y-DNA haplogroup E1b1b (E-M35).

Sounds interesting, right? Not so fast:

No subclade was ever released
No autosomal DNA was ever sequenced
No raw data was published
No methodology transparency


This is like opening a safe, peeking in, and refusing to say what you saw.

5. Why That Matters
E1b1b is a massive haplogroup found in Southern Europe, the Balkans, North Africa, and the Near East. Without a subclade, it's meaningless. It could point to a Jewish lineage... or a Calabrian fisherman. It proves nothing on its own.

Yet this is the ONLY result they shared. Why?

6. The Teeth: Smoking Gun in Moscow
Hitler's jawbone and dental remains were recovered by the Soviets in 1945 and confirmed in multiple forensic analyses, including a 2018 French study. is teeth are still intact—complete with visible tartar. That means:

Tooth pulp and tartar are rich sources of nuclear DNA
Full autosomal sequencing is possible, even decades later
The condition of the remains is well-suited for testing
Yet no institution has ever attempted it (or admitted to doing so)


In forensic genetics, teeth are gold. If we can extract full DNA profiles from 5,000-year-old Neolithic farmers and 40,000-year-old Denisovans, we can sequence Hitler's genome.Hitler's Teeth Study (Smithsonian) (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/hitlers-teeth-confirm-he-died-1945-180969133/)


7. Why the Silence?
If he had no Jewish ancestry, wouldn't they want to shut the rumor down?
If he did—well, now we're in psychological, historical, and political dynamite territory. It could rewrite how people view everything from Nazi ideology to the man himself.

Instead, we get the minimum viable result: a vague Y-haplogroup, no SNPs, no subclades, no autosomal profile, no raw data. Just enough to stoke speculation, never enough to answer anything.

8. Conclusion: The DNA Exists. The Question Is Who's Afraid of It.
The technology exists. The remains exist. The legal access exists.

All that’s missing is the will.

Until someone extracts and publishes Hitler's full genome, we’ll never know for sure whether the rumors were projection—or a suppressed truth too dangerous for postwar narratives to endure.

[Highwayman]

I think they have no interest in giving genetics section Apricitards the chance to check how close Hitler is on g25.


People love stupid things that they can “wow” their friends with. Hitler probably doesn’t have Jewish DNA, but boy, do people love a good story.

[Highwayman]

And having E1b is uncommon, but happens, with northern Europeans.

[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

Hitler died in Argentina in the 1960s

That skull is not his :thumb001:

[Lard]

I think they have no interest in giving genetics section Apricitards the chance to check how close Hitler is on g25.


People love stupid things that they can “wow” their friends with. Hitler probably doesn’t have Jewish DNA, but boy, do people love a good story.

It’s not just about "wow" factor or impressing friends — it's about historical insight. Whether or not Hitler had Jewish ancestry isn’t some throwaway curiosity — it cuts directly into the contradictions of Nazi ideology and potentially into Hitler’s own deeply conflicted psyche.

There’s long been speculation — even among historians — that Hitler’s obsession with “racial purity” may have stemmed from anxiety about his own lineage. The rumors about his paternal grandfather being of Jewish origin weren’t invented by Reddit; they were debated during his own lifetime, and even investigated by the Nazis themselves.

So yeah, genetic data would be meaningful — not because people want him to be Jewish, but because it might shed light on the psychological roots of his extremism. If someone spends their life violently projecting hatred outward, sometimes it’s because they’re at war with something inside themselves.

That’s not tabloid speculation — that’s a legitimate historical inquiry.

[Lard]

Hitler died in Argentina in the 1960s

That skull is not his :thumb001:

Ah yes, the classic “Hitler retired to Argentina and opened a beach bar” theory. I think he and Elvis were roommates, right?

In reality:
The skull fragment often paraded as “proof” was tested and turned out to be from a woman under 40 — so you’re right, that part isn’t his.
But the teeth recovered by the Soviets — those are a different story. A 2018 French study matched them to Hitler’s dental records with a high degree of certainty…
Hitler's Teeth Study (Smithsonian) (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/hitlers-teeth-confirm-he-died-1945-180969133/)
Except they never released DNA data, raw files, or methodology transparency. So technically, we’re still trusting Soviet chain-of-custody and anecdotal reports.

So no, Hitler didn’t die in Argentina in the 60s — but the fact that people still believe he might’ve shows how badly the official story has been handled.

One clean DNA test on those teeth, published with raw data, and boom — no more “Hitler sipping yerba mate in Patagonia” theories. Until then, the History Channel’s still eating good.

[Lard]

And having E1b is uncommon, but happens, with northern Europeans.

It’s actually not that uncommon. E1b shows up throughout Europe, including Austria — where rates are around 8–10%, depending on the sample. That’s about as common as being left-handed.

More importantly, without knowing the subclade, we can’t even say much about the specific origin. E1b has branches that are Neolithic European, Balkan, North African, and Levantine. So saying “Hitler had E1b” without subclade detail is like saying “He had brown eyes” — interesting, but not definitive.

Until there’s published methodology, raw data, and clear subclade info, the “Hitler’s haplogroup” claim is mostly internet hearsay.

[ScandinavianCelt]

The study was posted here last year. He does not have Jewish DNA but is a product of an incestuous community. Search for the thread. You can find it!

[#Oda#]

This place is sooo obsessed with that man... Well, just wanted to say - wont read the shit.

[Lard]

The study was posted here last year. He does not have Jewish DNA but is a product of an incestuous community. Search for the thread. You can find it!

There’s no such study. As of 2025, there is no published genetic profile of Adolf Hitler — not his Y-DNA, not his mtDNA, and not his autosomal DNA. No subclades have ever been released, no raw data published, and no peer-reviewed genetic paper has confirmed anything beyond anecdotal hearsay.

The so-called “incestuous community” claim is based on speculation, not hard genetics. If there really were a study, it would be cited, linked, and available for review — but there isn’t. So no, I’m not going to waste time “searching the thread” for something that doesn’t exist.

Until there’s transparent methodology and verifiable data, all of this remains unconfirmed rumor.

[Lard]

This place is sooo obsessed with that man... Well, just wanted to say - wont read the shit.

No one’s asking you to read it, champ — but if you're going to parachute in just to whine, at least try to bring something more than a drive-by eye-roll.

Discussing Hitler’s genetics isn’t “obsession” — it’s called historical inquiry. Some of us care about facts, context, and unpacking decades of myth. If that’s too much “thinking” for your taste, feel free to scroll past instead of announcing your exit like it’s a mic drop.

[#Oda#]

No one’s asking you to read it, champ — but if you're going to parachute in just to whine, at least try to bring something more than a drive-by eye-roll.

Discussing Hitler’s genetics isn’t “obsession” — it’s called historical inquiry. Some of us care about facts, context, and unpacking decades of myth. If that’s too much “thinking” for your taste, feel free to scroll past instead of announcing your exit like it’s a mic drop.

Sorry, Lard, I'm of the opinion it's scheißegal.

[Lard]

No need to apologize, #Oda# — you’re entitled to the opinion that it’s “scheißegal”. But if that’s really how you felt, you wouldn’t still be here tossing out dismissive little quips post after post. Sounds like it’s not so egal after all.

Also, for someone proudly repping Tronder metrics and posting 2,600 times since October 2023, maybe sit this one out before accusing others of obsession. Some of us are discussing historical and genetic nuance — not because we “worship” Hitler, but because the truth matters, especially when it challenges propaganda, myth, and post-war disinformation.

If that’s too uncomfortable, you’re free to scroll on. But if you’re going to keep chiming in, at least bring something deeper than "ugh, not this again."

[Highwayman]

It’s not just about "wow" factor or impressing friends — it's about historical insight. Whether or not Hitler had Jewish ancestry isn’t some throwaway curiosity — it cuts directly into the contradictions of Nazi ideology and potentially into Hitler’s own deeply conflicted psyche.

There’s long been speculation — even among historians — that Hitler’s obsession with “racial purity” may have stemmed from anxiety about his own lineage. The rumors about his paternal grandfather being of Jewish origin weren’t invented by Reddit; they were debated during his own lifetime, and even investigated by the Nazis themselves.

So yeah, genetic data would be meaningful — not because people want him to be Jewish, but because it might shed light on the psychological roots of his extremism. If someone spends their life violently projecting hatred outward, sometimes it’s because they’re at war with something inside themselves.

That’s not tabloid speculation — that’s a legitimate historical inquiry.


I can see Grok is superior to chatGPT. People do want Hitler to be Jewish, it’s absolutely tabloid sensation.

[Lucas]

Ah yes, the classic “Hitler retired to Argentina and opened a beach bar” theory. I think he and Elvis were roommates, right?

In reality:
The skull fragment often paraded as “proof” was tested and turned out to be from a woman under 40 — so you’re right, that part isn’t his.
But the teeth recovered by the Soviets — those are a different story. A 2018 French study matched them to Hitler’s dental records with a high degree of certainty…
Hitler's Teeth Study (Smithsonian) (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/hitlers-teeth-confirm-he-died-1945-180969133/)
Except they never released DNA data, raw files, or methodology transparency. So technically, we’re still trusting Soviet chain-of-custody and anecdotal reports.

So no, Hitler didn’t die in Argentina in the 60s — but the fact that people still believe he might’ve shows how badly the official story has been handled.

One clean DNA test on those teeth, published with raw data, and boom — no more “Hitler sipping yerba mate in Patagonia” theories. Until then, the History Channel’s still eating good.

I read that it could be teeth of his double. He had at least one and it was confirmed he had modified teeth (removed some etc.) to be in-line with Hitler in this respect.

[Lard]

I read that it could be teeth of his double. He had at least one and it was confirmed he had modified teeth (removed some etc.) to be in-line with Hitler in this respect.

Sure, the "double" theory gets thrown around — but let’s be real: if we’re saying even the dental remains matched to Hitler might belong to a body double, then we’re admitting we’ve got zero forensic certainty at all.

Yes, Hitler had known dental work — but so did his dentist, Hugo Blaschke, who fled to the West and was later interrogated. Blaschke’s assistant even sketched Hitler’s dental chart from memory, and that’s what the Soviets used to ID the jaw and teeth. That’s not a lab-grade match — that’s post-war CSI: Guesswork Edition.

If the remains could be a double, and there's no DNA, no subclade, no autosomal profile, and we’re relying entirely on hearsay, Soviet claims, and 1945 X-rays... then yeah — it’s fair to say the official story still isn’t sealed shut.

So again: one transparent, peer-reviewed DNA test — even just mtDNA — would settle this.
But the longer they avoid doing it?
The longer yerba mate Hitler gets to live rent-free in cable docudramas.

[Lard]

I can see Grok is superior to chatGPT. People do want Hitler to be Jewish, it’s absolutely tabloid sensation.

You’re free to dismiss it as “tabloid,” Highwayman, but the fact remains: serious historians — not Redditors or chatbots — have explored the question of Hitler’s ancestry for decades. The Nazis themselves investigated the rumor about his paternal grandfather possibly being Jewish. That alone makes it historically significant, whether or not it offends modern internet sensibilities.

And no, I don’t “want” Hitler to be Jewish. This isn’t about wish fulfillment — it’s about historical transparency. We’re talking about one of the most consequential figures of the 20th century, and to this day there is no confirmed genetic profile: no Y-DNA, no mtDNA, no autosomal breakdown, no raw data. Just unverifiable Soviet remains and hearsay.

Here’s the part most people miss:
Even if Hitler had a Jewish ancestor — which remains speculative — that wouldn’t even make him “Jewish” under Nazi racial law. The Nuremberg Laws defined someone with one Jewish grandparent as a Mischling (mixed), not a Jew. So this weird panic over the idea that “people want him to be Jewish” is not just emotional — it’s factually wrong.

The real point is this: If true, that ancestry would expose the internal contradictions and pathological insecurities driving Nazi ideology. When someone builds an entire system on “racial purity,” and they themselves wouldn’t pass that system’s test — that’s not just irony. That’s psychological and political relevance.

So no, this isn’t tabloid garbage.
It’s called historical inquiry, and if you’re allergic to nuance, that’s a personal problem — not a flaw in the question.

[ScandinavianCelt]

https://neweasterneurope.eu/2022/05/13/adolf-hitler-was-not-of-jewish-descent-but-the-result-of-inbreeding/#:~:text=As%20Alois's%20father%2C%20Nepomuk%20also ,called%20it%20in%20his%20time.

[Lard]

https://neweasterneurope.eu/2022/05/13/adolf-hitler-was-not-of-jewish-descent-but-the-result-of-inbreeding/#:~:text=As%20Alois's%20father%2C%20Nepomuk%20also ,called%20it%20in%20his%20time.

Ah, the “it’s not Jewish ancestry, it’s just inbreeding” fallback — the historical equivalent of swapping one scandalous theory for another and pretending it’s a mic drop. Let’s unpack this Norwegian blog post masquerading as scholarship:

There’s no DNA. Period.
Everything in that article — every claim about Hitler's genealogy, family origin, alleged incest — is based on decades-old speculation, Soviet-era rumor control, and recycled Hans Frank testimonies. Not one of those assertions is backed by a single genetic study, subclade, or published autosomal profile. If you're going to build your case around bloodlines, maybe start with actual blood data.

Even the “inbreeding” claim is speculative.
The idea that Alois Hitler married his niece is not confirmed — it's one hypothesis among several, and it hinges on the assumption that Johann Nepomuk was Hitler’s actual grandfather. That remains unproven. So claiming this is “the result of inbreeding” is just as flimsy as the Jewish grandfather rumor — except it lacks even the Cold War political intrigue.

Let’s not pretend this refutes anything.
This article tries to both-sides the controversy: “No, he wasn’t Jewish, but yes, he was a deformed inbred from a cursed bloodline.” And this is supposed to be less sensational? You’ve just traded one unverified origin myth for another — and neither replaces the need for a clear, transparent genetic profile.

Lavrov’s comments are irrelevant deflection.
No one here is defending Lavrov or his absurd Ukraine–Nazi comparison. That’s geopolitical trolling. But invoking Lavrov doesn’t somehow prove the entire inquiry into Hitler’s ancestry is invalid. It’s a distraction tactic — and not even a clever one.

The destruction of graves and records cuts both ways.
Yes, the Nazis destroyed records. That includes anything that might have confirmed either Jewish ancestry or family-level inbreeding. That doesn't validate one theory over another — it simply leaves the historical record incomplete. Which is why DNA matters.

So let’s be clear: this blog post is a mix of recycled speculation, Cold War folklore, and vague moral signaling. It settles nothing, proves nothing, and only reinforces the original point:

We still don’t know.
Because there is no published DNA.
And until there is, the door stays open — on all sides.

Drop a real study next time, not a glorified translation of Cold War tabloid journalism with candles by a tombstone as your closing evidence.

[rothaer]

No need to apologize, #Oda# — you’re entitled to the opinion that it’s “scheißegal”. But if that’s really how you felt, you wouldn’t still be here tossing out dismissive little quips post after post. Sounds like it’s not so egal after all.

Also, for someone proudly repping Tronder metrics and posting 2,600 times since October 2023, maybe sit this one out before accusing others of obsession. Some of us are discussing historical and genetic nuance — not because we “worship” Hitler, but because the truth matters, especially when it challenges propaganda, myth, and post-war disinformation.

If that’s too uncomfortable, you’re free to scroll on. But if you’re going to keep chiming in, at least bring something deeper than "ugh, not this again."

This is why I consider #Oda# a sniper, which I told her many times and asked her to change that behavior. She kind of sits behind a bush and shoots at others while hiding and rarely contributing herself. :shrug:

[#Oda#]

This is why I consider #Oda# a sniper, which I told her many times and asked her to change that behavior. She kind of sits behind a bush and shoots at others while hiding and rarely contributing herself. :shrug:

Was waiting for you and that record xD Even dont have to read, know it by heart, hunny.

[#Oda#]

This is why I consider #Oda# a sniper, which I told her many times and asked her to change that behavior. She kind of sits behind a bush and shoots at others while hiding and rarely contributing herself. :shrug:

Btw, I also consider you many things I haven't told you yet, und schon gar nicht 100 times. Take a leaf out of this book.

[Lard]

This is why I consider #Oda# a sniper, which I told her many times and asked her to change that behavior. She kind of sits behind a bush and shoots at others while hiding and rarely contributing herself. :shrug:
Classic #Oda# — the elusive forest sniper of Apricity. Camouflaged in sarcasm, armed with irony, and always popping off potshots from the underbrush. Honestly, if she ever did drop a full post with sources and depth, I think half the forum would faint from shock.

Still, I gotta respect the stealth game. She's like the forum’s raccoon: nocturnal, unpredictable, and oddly endearing if you don’t take it personally.🦝💬

[rothaer]

Thread: Hitler's DNA, His Teeth, and the Historical Truth We're Not Allowed to Touch (...)

I don't see that anyone tries to prevent insights.

To the people having the DNA and the possibility to test, everything is either clear or not relevant. Personally I'm curious and even tested two individuals from Hitler's ancestry region in order to assess his general ancestry. But to most people it's irrelevant if Hitler was a little bit inbred like rural folks often are, if he had any Jewish ancestry and what was his Y DNA haplogroup.

If I'm not mistaken, the Y DNA test was made pretty early where you did not get much deeper subclades or deeper subclades were not yet connected to deeper insights. I guess the former.

Whoever releases Hitler's autosomal DNA will have to face the possibility that (innocent) people may be killed because of that. He would likely get somewhat close matches in databases and there are still enough people around that lost close relatives because of Hitler and that could feel motivated take "revenge" on his relatives.

[rothaer]

Was waiting for you and that record xD Even dont have to read, know it by heart, hunny.

OMG

[Lard]

I don't see that anyone tries to prevent insights.

To the people having the DNA and the possibility to test, everything is either clear or not relevant. Personally I'm curious and even tested two individuals from Hitler's ancestry region in order to assess his general ancestry. But to most people it's irrelevant if Hitler was a little bit inbred like rural folks often are, if he had any Jewish ancestry and what was his Y DNA haplogroup.

If I'm not mistaken, the Y DNA test was made pretty early where you did not get much deeper subclades or deeper subclades were not yet connected to deeper insights. I guess the former.

Whoever releases Hitler's autosomal DNA will have to face the possibility that (innocent) people may be killed because of that. He would likely get somewhat close matches in databases and there are still enough people around that lost close relatives because of Hitler and that could feel motivated take "revenge" on his relatives.



I appreciate your interest, but several points in your reply either misrepresent the science or sidestep the core of the issue I raised.

“I don't see that anyone tries to prevent insights.”

That’s exactly what’s happening. The French forensic team had verified access to Hitler’s dental remains, including teeth with visible tartar — an ideal source for both autosomal and Y-DNA extraction. This wasn’t a question of degraded Neolithic bones. The DNA was there. The technology was there. They simply chose not to test it. That’s not scientific neutrality — that’s deliberate avoidance.

The lead author, Philippe Charlier, was quoted saying:

“The teeth are authentic, there is no possible doubt. Our study proves that Hitler died in 1945… We can stop all the conspiracy theories about Hitler. He did not flee to Argentina in a submarine, he is not in a hidden base in Antarctica or on the dark side of the moon.”
Hitler's Teeth Study (Smithsonian) (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/hitlers-teeth-confirm-he-died-1945-180969133/)
And yet… no one thought to sequence the DNA?

“The Y-DNA test was made early when you didn’t get much deeper subclades.”

Not true. The claim about Hitler’s relatives being E1b1b came in 2010, when deep subclade SNP testing was already standard. Companies like 23andMe were already offering full autosomal panels by then. And yet:

No subclade was shared

No autosomal DNA was released

No raw data or methodology was published

No peer-reviewed paper, ever

It was a media stunt — not a scientific study. If the goal were real insight, they would’ve published everything, not just toss out a vague haplogroup that could mean anything from Sephardic ancestry to Balkan peasantry.

“Whoever releases Hitler’s autosomal DNA may get people killed.”

This sounds like a movie plot, not a real-world concern. Distant autosomal matches wouldn’t even be public unless uploaded. Meanwhile, we’ve sequenced everyone from ancient Pharaohs to Stalin’s descendants. No one's been hunted down over it.

So I’ll reiterate the core point of the thread: we have the remains, the technology, and the access — but not the will. The refusal to extract and release this data isn’t about ethics or irrelevance. It’s about what might be found — and the political discomfort it could cause.

If Hitler had no Jewish or non-“Aryan” ancestry, why not publish the data and put it to rest? The silence only fuels speculation — which, frankly, may be exactly the point.

[Highwayman]

You’re free to dismiss it as “tabloid,” Highwayman, but the fact remains: serious historians — not Redditors or chatbots — have explored the question of Hitler’s ancestry for decades. The Nazis themselves investigated the rumor about his paternal grandfather possibly being Jewish. That alone makes it historically significant, whether or not it offends modern internet sensibilities.

And no, I don’t “want” Hitler to be Jewish. This isn’t about wish fulfillment — it’s about historical transparency. We’re talking about one of the most consequential figures of the 20th century, and to this day there is no confirmed genetic profile: no Y-DNA, no mtDNA, no autosomal breakdown, no raw data. Just unverifiable Soviet remains and hearsay.

Here’s the part most people miss:
Even if Hitler had a Jewish ancestor — which remains speculative — that wouldn’t even make him “Jewish” under Nazi racial law. The Nuremberg Laws defined someone with one Jewish grandparent as a Mischling (mixed), not a Jew. So this weird panic over the idea that “people want him to be Jewish” is not just emotional — it’s factually wrong.

The real point is this: If true, that ancestry would expose the internal contradictions and pathological insecurities driving Nazi ideology. When someone builds an entire system on “racial purity,” and they themselves wouldn’t pass that system’s test — that’s not just irony. That’s psychological and political relevance.

So no, this isn’t tabloid garbage.
It’s called historical inquiry, and if you’re allergic to nuance, that’s a personal problem — not a flaw in the question.



You’re a goddamn bot.


People claim that Hitler had Jewish ancestry all the time. This is nothing new, and it is stated as “matter of fact.” People spread it and believe it, because they want to believe it. And they want to believe it because it’s “juicy.”


You only need to find a hidden, personal motive for Hitler if you think the Jews were randomly selected by throwing a dart at a dartboard. It’s not a mystery why Hitler blamed them for the state of Germany after WWI. They were seen as subversive, pushing ideologies and controlling the banks.

[Lard]

You’re a goddamn bot.


People claim that Hitler had Jewish ancestry all the time. This is nothing new, and it is stated as “matter of fact.” People spread it and believe it, because they want to believe it. And they want to believe it because it’s “juicy.”


You only need to find a hidden, personal motive for Hitler if you think the Jews were randomly selected by throwing a dart at a dartboard. It’s not a mystery why Hitler blamed them for the state of Germany after WWI. They were seen as subversive, pushing ideologies and controlling the banks.

Ah yes, the classic "You're a bot" line — the online equivalent of shaking your cane at the sky. If referencing documented history, forensic reports, and primary sources makes someone a “bot,” maybe the real issue is how allergic you are to anything deeper than pub talk.


People claim that Hitler had Jewish ancestry all the time. This is nothing new…
Correct — and if you'd bothered to read my post instead of foaming at the keyboard, you’d see I already acknowledged that. The issue isn't whether the rumor exists — it’s that despite modern DNA technology and verified dental remains (yes, confirmed by French forensic scientists in 2018), there’s still no published autosomal, mtDNA, or Y-DNA profile. Why not?


People want to believe it because it’s juicy.
Some probably do. But again — that wasn’t my argument. I’m not “believing” anything; I’m pointing out that the scientific silence is what fuels the speculation. If the results are boring, release the data and put it to rest. Instead, we get decades of forensic hand-waving and vague Y-DNA claims with zero raw data. That’s not science — that’s avoidance.


You only need to find a hidden motive for Hitler if you think the Jews were randomly selected…
No one said it was random. My point — which you either missed or ignored — is that if Hitler had any traceable Jewish ancestry, it would expose the hypocrisy and projection at the heart of Nazi racial ideology. That’s not “juicy gossip” — that’s psychologically and politically relevant. When someone builds an ideology on “racial purity” they themselves might not pass, that matters.

If that sounds like too much nuance for you, feel free to go yell at clouds elsewhere. But don’t confuse your irritation with having made a valid point.

[ScandinavianCelt]

Ah, the “it’s not Jewish ancestry, it’s just inbreeding” fallback — the historical equivalent of swapping one scandalous theory for another and pretending it’s a mic drop. Let’s unpack this Norwegian blog post masquerading as scholarship:

There’s no DNA. Period.
Everything in that article — every claim about Hitler's genealogy, family origin, alleged incest — is based on decades-old speculation, Soviet-era rumor control, and recycled Hans Frank testimonies. Not one of those assertions is backed by a single genetic study, subclade, or published autosomal profile. If you're going to build your case around bloodlines, maybe start with actual blood data.

Even the “inbreeding” claim is speculative.
The idea that Alois Hitler married his niece is not confirmed — it's one hypothesis among several, and it hinges on the assumption that Johann Nepomuk was Hitler’s actual grandfather. That remains unproven. So claiming this is “the result of inbreeding” is just as flimsy as the Jewish grandfather rumor — except it lacks even the Cold War political intrigue.

Let’s not pretend this refutes anything.
This article tries to both-sides the controversy: “No, he wasn’t Jewish, but yes, he was a deformed inbred from a cursed bloodline.” And this is supposed to be less sensational? You’ve just traded one unverified origin myth for another — and neither replaces the need for a clear, transparent genetic profile.

Lavrov’s comments are irrelevant deflection.
No one here is defending Lavrov or his absurd Ukraine–Nazi comparison. That’s geopolitical trolling. But invoking Lavrov doesn’t somehow prove the entire inquiry into Hitler’s ancestry is invalid. It’s a distraction tactic — and not even a clever one.

The destruction of graves and records cuts both ways.
Yes, the Nazis destroyed records. That includes anything that might have confirmed either Jewish ancestry or family-level inbreeding. That doesn't validate one theory over another — it simply leaves the historical record incomplete. Which is why DNA matters.

So let’s be clear: this blog post is a mix of recycled speculation, Cold War folklore, and vague moral signaling. It settles nothing, proves nothing, and only reinforces the original point:

We still don’t know.
Because there is no published DNA.
And until there is, the door stays open — on all sides.

Drop a real study next time, not a glorified translation of Cold War tabloid journalism with candles by a tombstone as your closing evidence.

was just sharing the article previously posted long ago

take a deep breath, it's all gonna be okay

[Lard]

was just sharing the article previously posted long ago

take a deep breath, it's all gonna be okay


“Just sharing,” huh? That’s cute. Like handing someone a BuzzFeed quiz and calling it peer-reviewed research.

You claimed a study existed. There isn’t one. What you posted was a recycled op-ed — no DNA, no raw data, just Cold War rumors and gravestone tourism dressed up as fact.

So yes, I’m breathing just fine. You might want to stop holding yours waiting for that imaginary genetic study to show up.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Very good thread my dear Lard, I salute you for the courage of to open a thread about such a censored topic.

I've investigated quite a bit on this subject and even made some posts about it that are lost among all the pile of shit created everyday on this forum. My two cents on top of everything you posted before:

- It was common knowledge in the 1920's that Hitler was rumoured to be jewish (in the sense that he had jewish ancestry).

- According to the french secrets services report done in the early 1920's when Hitler was rising as a political agitator and released in 2009 by the National Archives in Paris, the report says that his nickname on the streets and among certain circles was "Adolf Jacob".

Link of the article in french:
https://www.lemonde.fr/europe/article/2009/11/19/adolf-hitler-genre-fasciste_1269349_3214.html

- Curiously the genealogy website Geni.com also admits this, on AH profile page, one of his nicknames (also known as) was Jacob, if you check his ancestry on the same website you'll realise that his ancestors changed their surnames quite often...who is the ethnicity known historically for being name changers ?

https://www.geni.com/people/Adolf-Hitler/6000000008260736732

- about Eva Braun, his "wife" (Hitler was probably impotent or a homosexual since he lived during his youth several years as a poor talentless painter in Viena in a guest house known for being frequented by homosexuals who paid poor young guests for sexual services) she also had a very peculiar haplogroup, highly associated with ashkeNAZI jews.

Links:
https://slate.com/culture/2001/12/a-new-book-claims-hitler-was-a-closet-case.html

Even israeli sources admit it:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/dna-shows-eva-braun-may-have-had-jewish-ancestry/

https://www.alphabiolabs.co.uk/blog/dna-testing-shows-adolf-hitler-married-jewish-woman/

And I'm not even going to talk about other facts I've discovered regarding his "Aryan" entourage.