MandM
08-09-2025, 08:46 AM
Have a friend that is Albanian from N.Macedonia, got his coords but somthing feels a bit off, can some one run through them and see if they are typical or something is off. He knows his grandmother was adopted as a baby, but know one knows her real ethnicity
G25
friend,0.11616326,0.13972406,0.01669582,-0.00342730,0.02448470,-0.00170996,0.00104438,0.00028042,0.00299866,0.0104 3128,-0.00032258,0.00125782,-0.00314256,0.00078188,-0.01070742,0.00255682,0.01281134,-0.00212528,0.00484506,-0.00079868,-0.00578044,0.00217662,0.00099026,-0.00068514,-0.00027111
K12b
friend,0.77,0.78,0.27,0,28.65,31.03,0,0.53,9.24,0, 28.43,0.31
K13
Friend,15.5,24.67,21.76,8.11,24.29,4.13,0,0,0.86,0 ,0.48,0,0.2
k36
Friend,0,0.51,0.37,0.41,0,4.07,0,0,14.46,0,4.87,11 .37,8.27,2.06,1.32,7.47,0,26.99,0,5.54,0,2.79,2.29 ,0.56,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.56,0,0.15,5.96
gixajo
08-09-2025, 10:41 AM
With modern averages it is modeled as Pomak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomaks), and with low penalties and Ancient Davidski Standard model some Gypsy percentages (or that could point to a distant gypsy ancestry) appear.
Target: friend
Distance: 1.4945% / 0.01494542 | ADC: 2x RC
53.0 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
47.0 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
Target: friend
Distance: 1.2612% / 0.01261209 | ADC: 1x RC
36.6 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
30.4 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
24.0 Swiss_Italian
9.0 Greek_Central_Macedonia
Target: friend
Distance: 0.9520% / 0.00951955 | ADC: 0.5x RC
35.4 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
30.2 Greek_Central_Macedonia
10.4 Swiss_French
10.2 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
8.8 Roma_Barcelona
5.0 Spanish_Extremadura
Target: friend
Distance: 0.7825% / 0.00782454 | ADC: 0.25x RC
21.4 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
18.4 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
17.8 Greek_Central_Macedonia
11.8 Swiss_French
11.0 Greek_Cyclades_Kea
8.0 Spanish_Soria
4.2 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
3.4 Andian_B
3.4 Roma_Barcelona
0.6 Masai
Target: friend
Distance: 1.8604% / 0.01860395
41.0 TUR_Barcin_N
37.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
4.4 Levant_PPNB
4.4 WHG
1.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
i am not specialized in Balkan ethnic minorities, maybe someone that knows better about them can give you more light about your friend results.
MandM
08-09-2025, 11:27 AM
With modern averages it is modeled as Pomak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomaks), and with low penalties and Ancient Davidski Standard model some Gypsy percentages (or that could point to a distant gypsy ancestry) appear.
Target: friend
Distance: 1.4945% / 0.01494542 | ADC: 2x RC
53.0 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
47.0 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
Target: friend
Distance: 1.2612% / 0.01261209 | ADC: 1x RC
36.6 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
30.4 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
24.0 Swiss_Italian
9.0 Greek_Central_Macedonia
Target: friend
Distance: 0.9520% / 0.00951955 | ADC: 0.5x RC
35.4 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
30.2 Greek_Central_Macedonia
10.4 Swiss_French
10.2 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
8.8 Roma_Barcelona
5.0 Spanish_Extremadura
Target: friend
Distance: 0.7825% / 0.00782454 | ADC: 0.25x RC
21.4 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
18.4 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
17.8 Greek_Central_Macedonia
11.8 Swiss_French
11.0 Greek_Cyclades_Kea
8.0 Spanish_Soria
4.2 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
3.4 Andian_B
3.4 Roma_Barcelona
0.6 Masai
Target: friend
Distance: 1.8604% / 0.01860395
41.0 TUR_Barcin_N
37.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
4.4 Levant_PPNB
4.4 WHG
1.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
i am not specialized in Balkan ethnic minorities, maybe someone that knows better about them can give you more light about your friend results.
Thank you for taking the time, am not that good with Albanians in Macedonia
Wend-Kruzek
08-09-2025, 04:38 PM
Target: friend
Distance: 3.0499% / 0.03049922
36.8 ANF_94_Nat_4_CHG_2:Turkey_Central_Boncuklu_PPN.AG: ZHAG_BON004.A0101_Luk10.AG__BC_7950__Cov_71.38%_mt N1a1a1
20.4 ANF_95_CHG_5:Turkey_Central_Boncuklu_PPN.AG:ZHJ_BO N024.A0101_Luk84.AG__BC_8240__Cov_51.11%
10.4 CHG:Georgia_Kotias_Mesolithic.SG:KK1.SG__BC_7728__ Cov_99.86%_J/H13c
7.6 EHG_N_A70_W30:Russia_YuzhniyOleniyOstrov_Mesolithi c.AG:UOO012.AG__BC_6175__Cov_43.62%_R1a2U4
6.6 Iran_N:Iran_GanjDareh_N.AG:I1954.AG__BC_8212__Cov_ 80.77%
5.8 EHG_S_A70_W30:Russia_Orenburg_Labazy_Meso:I6910__B C_6391__Cov_75.42%_Q1b1a/U4a1
5.6 EHG_S_A70_W30:Russia_Samara_Ekaterinovka_Meso:I236 49__BC_5250__Cov_73.46%
3.6 Natufian:Israel_Natufian.AG:I1072.AG__BC_10750__Co v_50.71%
3.2 Baltic_HG_W80_A20:Latvia_Mesolithic.AG:I4632.AG__B C_6366__Cov_69.31%_U5a1c3b
Ethnicity is irrelevant when it comes to DNA. However, your friend is very mixed. My humble guess about his origins is: the Balkans + the Middle East – Turkey, the Caucasus and the Fertile Crescent + the assumption that he also has some Jewish ancestry. He is closest to the Macedonians
best regards /čav
MandM
08-09-2025, 08:04 PM
Target: friend
Distance: 3.0499% / 0.03049922
36.8 ANF_94_Nat_4_CHG_2:Turkey_Central_Boncuklu_PPN.AG: ZHAG_BON004.A0101_Luk10.AG__BC_7950__Cov_71.38%_mt N1a1a1
20.4 ANF_95_CHG_5:Turkey_Central_Boncuklu_PPN.AG:ZHJ_BO N024.A0101_Luk84.AG__BC_8240__Cov_51.11%
10.4 CHG:Georgia_Kotias_Mesolithic.SG:KK1.SG__BC_7728__ Cov_99.86%_J/H13c
7.6 EHG_N_A70_W30:Russia_YuzhniyOleniyOstrov_Mesolithi c.AG:UOO012.AG__BC_6175__Cov_43.62%_R1a2U4
6.6 Iran_N:Iran_GanjDareh_N.AG:I1954.AG__BC_8212__Cov_ 80.77%
5.8 EHG_S_A70_W30:Russia_Orenburg_Labazy_Meso:I6910__B C_6391__Cov_75.42%_Q1b1a/U4a1
5.6 EHG_S_A70_W30:Russia_Samara_Ekaterinovka_Meso:I236 49__BC_5250__Cov_73.46%
3.6 Natufian:Israel_Natufian.AG:I1072.AG__BC_10750__Co v_50.71%
3.2 Baltic_HG_W80_A20:Latvia_Mesolithic.AG:I4632.AG__B C_6366__Cov_69.31%_U5a1c3b
Ethnicity is irrelevant when it comes to DNA. However, your friend is very mixed. My humble guess about his origins is: the Balkans + the Middle East – Turkey, the Caucasus and the Fertile Crescent + the assumption that he also has some Jewish ancestry. He is closest to the Macedonians
best regards /čav
Thank you for looking in to it
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