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AndreiDNA
09-27-2025, 04:09 PM
https://youtu.be/fzQA0NZ31ds
userNa
09-27-2025, 08:59 PM
What's with the low Loschbour admixture?
AndreiDNA
09-27-2025, 09:13 PM
What's with the low Loschbour admixture?
low loschbour because theyre only 2-3% GAC. Their WHG comes from GAC which they almost don't have. They're basically pure steppe
userNa
09-27-2025, 09:29 PM
low loschbour because theyre only 2-3% GAC. Their WHG comes from GAC which they almost don't have. They're basically pure steppe
Thanks.
Modern Europeans seem to have up to 10% of excess WHG, right? Where does it come from?
Gannicus
09-28-2025, 01:19 AM
I modeled myself with that Lithuania LN Individual:
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AndreiDNA
09-28-2025, 02:19 AM
Thanks.
Modern Europeans seem to have up to 10% of excess WHG, right? Where does it come from?
It's not really excess WHG.
the 10-15% that northern europeans have (Everyone from Scottland to Ukraine basically) get their WHG from the globular amphora and related cultures like megalithics and TRB.
Only balts have true excess WHG. They used to have more of it (Latvia BA, Estonia BA had ~15% excess WHG+ANE)
Over time Balts recieved huge admixture from the south which formed Lithuania IA. Latvians are basically identical to Lithuania IA. Lithuanians then recieved additional southern (Balkanic and West Asian) admixture from Slavs. In the west of lithuania there is more Lithuania IA admixture and they resemble balts more. In the south and east of lithuania there is more slavic admixture. South Aukstajtia and East Aukstaitija lithuanians are closer to belarusians than to latvians.
Here's some distances using G25.
Distance to: Lithuanian_Zemaitija
0.01707067 Latvian
0.02130597 Belarusian
0.03453872 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.05652133 Slovakian
Zemaitija Lithuanians have a typical Baltic profile, although still slightly shifted toward the South.
Distance to: Lithuanian_East_Aukstaitija
0.01580534 Latvian
0.02186012 Belarusian
0.03194594 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.05339323 Slovakian
East Aukstaitija Lithuanians are also pretty baltic, but with a stronger slavic shift.
Distance to: Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija
0.01323330 Belarusian
0.02169587 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.02417869 Latvian
0.04234043 Slovakian
South Aukstaitija Lithuanians are closer to some Slavs than to pure Balts, however are still quite far from Slovaks.
Target: Lithuanian_Zemaitija
Distance: 1.4013% / 0.01401300
84.8 Latvian
15.2 Slovakian
Target: Lithuanian_East_Aukstaitija
Distance: 1.0178% / 0.01017833
81.2 Latvian
18.8 Slovakian
Target: Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija
Distance: 0.7792% / 0.00779233
64.6 Latvian
35.4 Slovakian
My distances as a slavic russian with significant Uralic ancestry for comparison.
Distance to: AndreiKharchenko_scaled
0.04205141 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.04641960 Belarusian
0.04708911 Slovakian
0.05498311 Latvian
userNa
09-28-2025, 02:57 AM
It's not really excess WHG.
the 10-15% that northern europeans have (Everyone from Scottland to Ukraine basically) get their WHG from the globular amphora and related cultures like megalithics and TRB.
Only balts have true excess WHG. They used to have more of it (Latvia BA, Estonia BA had ~15% excess WHG+ANE)
Over time Balts recieved huge admixture from the south which formed Lithuania IA. Latvians are basically identical to Lithuania IA. Lithuanians then recieved additional southern (Balkanic and West Asian) admixture from Slavs. In the west of lithuania there is more Lithuania IA admixture and they resemble balts more. In the south and east of lithuania there is more slavic admixture. South Aukstajtia and East Aukstaitija lithuanians are closer to belarusians than to latvians.
Here's some distances using G25.
Distance to: Lithuanian_Zemaitija
0.01707067 Latvian
0.02130597 Belarusian
0.03453872 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.05652133 Slovakian
Zemaitija Lithuanians have a typical Baltic profile, although still slightly shifted toward the South.
Distance to: Lithuanian_East_Aukstaitija
0.01580534 Latvian
0.02186012 Belarusian
0.03194594 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.05339323 Slovakian
East Aukstaitija Lithuanians are also pretty baltic, but with a stronger slavic shift.
Distance to: Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija
0.01323330 Belarusian
0.02169587 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.02417869 Latvian
0.04234043 Slovakian
South Aukstaitija Lithuanians are closer to some Slavs than to pure Balts, however are still quite far from Slovaks.
Target: Lithuanian_Zemaitija
Distance: 1.4013% / 0.01401300
84.8 Latvian
15.2 Slovakian
Target: Lithuanian_East_Aukstaitija
Distance: 1.0178% / 0.01017833
81.2 Latvian
18.8 Slovakian
Target: Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija
Distance: 0.7792% / 0.00779233
64.6 Latvian
35.4 Slovakian
My distances as a slavic russian with significant Uralic ancestry for comparison.
Distance to: AndreiKharchenko_scaled
0.04205141 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.04641960 Belarusian
0.04708911 Slovakian
0.05498311 Latvian
That makes a lot of sense, thanks .
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