Spartan G25 cords [Archive] - The Apricity Forum: A European Cultural Community

Dick

10-03-2025, 05:29 PM

Spartan soldiers buried in the Kerameikos cemetery in Athens with heights ranging from 178cm to 185cm. Spartans were generally taller than other Greeks, with average heights around 175-178cm (5'9"), and a height range of 178-185cm is consistent with this, though some sources provide slightly different averages. These burials in enemy territory were likely intended by the Spartans to assert their superiority

Are there G25 cords? I'm sure the Greek authorities have Alexander the Great's dna results including his Ydna but won't disclose it.

There are 4 of them. 2 of them were 178cm tall, the other two were 181cm and 185cm.

Dr.Fiskero

10-03-2025, 09:04 PM

185 cm seems exceptionally tall for that period. In any case, it is fascinating, especially when viewed in the context of the ‘Dorian invasion’ theory, which suggests that a northern people blended with the Mycenaeans, giving rise to the Spartans. It would be very interesting to verify this.

Dick

10-03-2025, 11:45 PM

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Thank you userNa for the cords.

Not Spartans (Laconia) but close enough (Messenia and Argolid). Another Iron Age Greek from an initially Mycenaean area that was settled by Dorians in the Dark Ages

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.2906% / 0.02290581
38.6 Russia_IA
25.4 Greece_EIA_Argolid
14.4 Sweden_IA
11.2 Greece_EIA_Messenia
5.6 Bulgaria_IA
2.6 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
2.2 Croatia_IA

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.4142% / 0.02414176 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.6 Russia_IA
27.2 Bulgaria_IA
24.2 Croatia_IA
8.0 Greece_EIA_Messenia

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.2969% / 0.02296874 | R4P
38.2 Russia_IA
32.2 Greece_EIA_Argolid
16.6 Sweden_IA
13.0 Greece_EIA_Messenia

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.4258% / 0.02425778 | R3P
41.2 Greece_EIA_Argolid
35.2 Russia_IA
23.6 Sweden_IA

celticdragongod

10-04-2025, 12:13 AM

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Thank you userNa for the cords.

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.2906% / 0.02290581
38.6 Russia_IA
25.4 Greece_EIA_Argolid
14.4 Sweden_IA
11.2 Greece_EIA_Messenia
5.6 Bulgaria_IA
2.6 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
2.2 Croatia_IA

Target: scaled
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27.2 Bulgaria_IA
24.2 Croatia_IA
8.0 Greece_EIA_Messenia

Target: scaled
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32.2 Greece_EIA_Argolid
16.6 Sweden_IA
13.0 Greece_EIA_Messenia

Target: scaled
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35.2 Russia_IA
23.6 Sweden_IA

Distance to: CDG_scaled
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0.03188288 Germany_IA
0.03192698 Czech_IA
0.03214916 Denmark_IA
0.03385899 Ireland&Scotland_IA
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0.10829766 Russia_IA
0.14049282 Greece_EIA_Messenia
0.14209153 Bulgaria_IA
0.16462683 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
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Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.0182% / 0.01818316
32.7 Denmark_IA
23.8 Ireland&Scotland_IA
15.9 England_IA
13.7 Sweden_IA
12.3 Albania_IA
1.6 Croatia_IA

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02138139 74.80% England_IA + 25.20% Sweden_IA
0.02171158 28.20% Czech_IA + 71.80% England_IA
0.02202723 20.00% Albania_IA + 80.00% Denmark_IA
0.02220516 25.40% Denmark_IA + 74.60% England_IA
0.02245526 20.60% Croatia_IA + 79.40% Denmark_IA
0.02257503 78.80% England_IA + 21.20% Ireland&Scotland_IA
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0.02301246 79.40% Denmark_IA + 20.60% Hungary_IA
0.02316740 96.00% England_IA + 4.00% Russia_IA
0.02331553 89.20% England_IA + 10.80% Norway_IA
0.02333930 96.40% England_IA + 3.60% Hungary_IA
0.02336280 3.40% Croatia_IA + 96.60% England_IA
0.02337303 3.20% Albania_IA + 96.80% England_IA
0.02340077 88.60% England_IA + 11.40% Germany_IA
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0.02460149 53.40% Germany_IA + 46.60% Ireland&Scotland_IA

Live The Magic

10-04-2025, 02:42 AM

Distance to: LiveTheMagic_scaled
0.05026010 Sweden_IA
0.05732773 Norway_IA
0.05889889 Estonia_IA
0.05910064 Denmark_IA
0.06209021 Germany_IA
0.06305098 Czech_IA
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0.07731149 Netherlands_IA
0.11210937 Hungary_IA
0.11658249 Croatia_IA
0.11703936 Spain_IA
0.11883098 Albania_IA
0.15975653 Greece_EIA_Messenia
0.15997469 Bulgaria_IA
0.18308478 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
0.18821172 Greece_EIA_Argolid

Target: LiveTheMagic_scaled
Distance: 2.5088% / 0.02508771
34.6 Russia_IA
29.8 Estonia_IA
15.0 Greece_EIA_Argolid
9.8 Ireland&Scotland_IA
4.2 Sweden_IA
3.6 Albania_IA
3.0 Netherlands_IA

Distance to: LiveTheMagic_scaled
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0.02976320 30.60% Albania_IA + 69.40% Estonia_IA
0.02990464 31.00% Croatia_IA + 69.00% Estonia_IA
0.03027442 34.00% Albania_IA + 66.00% Russia_IA
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0.03249495 24.20% Greece_Archaic_Phocis + 75.80% Russia_IA
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0.03361840 26.80% Greece_EIA_Messenia + 73.20% Russia_IA
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Dick

10-04-2025, 04:42 AM

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02356365 England_IA
0.03188288 Germany_IA
0.03192698 Czech_IA
0.03214916 Denmark_IA
0.03385899 Ireland&Scotland_IA
0.03640095 Sweden_IA
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0.05822978 Netherlands_IA
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0.09018698 Spain_IA
0.09124623 Croatia_IA
0.09612938 Albania_IA
0.09942459 Estonia_IA
0.10829766 Russia_IA
0.14049282 Greece_EIA_Messenia
0.14209153 Bulgaria_IA
0.16462683 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
0.17191876 Greece_EIA_Argolid

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.0182% / 0.01818316
32.7 Denmark_IA
23.8 Ireland&Scotland_IA
15.9 England_IA
13.7 Sweden_IA
12.3 Albania_IA
1.6 Croatia_IA

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02138139 74.80% England_IA + 25.20% Sweden_IA
0.02171158 28.20% Czech_IA + 71.80% England_IA
0.02202723 20.00% Albania_IA + 80.00% Denmark_IA
0.02220516 25.40% Denmark_IA + 74.60% England_IA
0.02245526 20.60% Croatia_IA + 79.40% Denmark_IA
0.02257503 78.80% England_IA + 21.20% Ireland&Scotland_IA
0.02269686 49.60% Denmark_IA + 50.40% Germany_IA
0.02301246 79.40% Denmark_IA + 20.60% Hungary_IA
0.02316740 96.00% England_IA + 4.00% Russia_IA
0.02331553 89.20% England_IA + 10.80% Norway_IA
0.02333930 96.40% England_IA + 3.60% Hungary_IA
0.02336280 3.40% Croatia_IA + 96.60% England_IA
0.02337303 3.20% Albania_IA + 96.80% England_IA
0.02340077 88.60% England_IA + 11.40% Germany_IA
0.02346362 1.60% Greece_EIA_Messenia + 98.40% England_IA
0.02346593 1.60% Bulgaria_IA + 98.40% England_IA
0.02351959 0.80% Greece_EIA_Argolid + 99.20% England_IA
0.02355543 99.40% England_IA + 0.60% Estonia_IA
0.02355673 0.40% Greece_Archaic_Phocis + 99.60% England_IA
0.02359555 24.00% Croatia_IA + 76.00% Norway_IA
0.02379894 13.40% Bulgaria_IA + 86.60% Denmark_IA
0.02385677 11.20% Greece_EIA_Argolid + 88.80% Denmark_IA
0.02405707 22.80% Albania_IA + 77.20% Norway_IA
0.02421397 56.80% Germany_IA + 43.20% Sweden_IA
0.02460149 53.40% Germany_IA + 46.60% Ireland&Scotland_IA

https://youtu.be/vz3bZeMDAxw?si=pWgsnvmyqhG8cdaz

Dick

10-04-2025, 04:42 AM

oszkar07

10-04-2025, 04:49 AM

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.4580% / 0.01457968
23.6 Sweden_IA
20.6 Hungary_IA
19.6 Russia_IA
17.0 Czech_IA
9.8 Bulgaria_IA
9.4 Ireland&Scotland_IA

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9464% / 0.01946369 | ADC: 1x RC
56.8 Sweden_IA
27.8 Hungary_IA
15.4 Czech_IA

Vessna

10-04-2025, 05:10 AM

Distance to: Vessna_scaled
0.04779583 Estonia_IA
0.05024566 Russia_IA
0.06488073 Sweden_IA
0.07325821 Denmark_IA
0.07367752 Norway_IA
0.08048358 Czech_IA
0.08114255 Germany_IA
0.08413160 England_IA
0.09412059 Ireland&Scotland_IA
0.09766444 Netherlands_IA
0.12681086 Hungary_IA
0.13190812 Croatia_IA
0.13361993 Albania_IA
0.13595668 Spain_IA
0.17226188 Bulgaria_IA
0.17236768 Greece_EIA_Messenia
0.19436187 Greece_Archaic_Phocis

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 2.0289% / 0.02028893
56.4 Russia_IA
26.4 Estonia_IA
17.2 Greece_EIA_Argolid

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 3.6947% / 0.03694674 | ADC: 1x RC
34.2 Russia_IA
33.0 Estonia_IA
32.8 Sweden_IA

RyoHazuki

10-04-2025, 05:26 AM

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.4033% / 0.02403266
66.4 Czech_IA
16.8 Hungary_IA
7.0 Denmark_IA
5.0 Ireland&Scotland_IA
4.8 Sweden_IA

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 0.7730% / 0.00772956
42.6 Norway_IA
14.2 Spain_IA
11.8 Czech_IA
10.8 Ireland&Scotland_IA
9.8 Bulgaria_IA
6.2 Albania_IA
3.8 Denmark_IA
0.8 England_IA

Dr.Fiskero

10-04-2025, 06:05 AM

Target: Fisk
Distance: 2.4023% / 0.02402303
28.6 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
23.6 Bulgaria_IA
20.2 Greece_EIA_Argolid
18.0 Spain_IA
9.6 Greece_EIA_Messenia

Distance to: Fisk
0.03304370 Bulgaria_IA
0.04208261 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
0.04528966 Greece_EIA_Argolid
0.06176047 Greece_EIA_Messenia
0.06281688 Croatia_IA
0.06737168 Albania_IA
0.07405227 Hungary_IA
0.09228848 Spain_IA
0.12949587 Germany_IA
0.14450030 England_IA
0.14687046 Czech_IA
0.15882206 Ireland&Scotland_IA
0.16403859 Sweden_IA
0.16434436 Denmark_IA
0.16784771 Netherlands_IA
0.16851354 Norway_IA
0.20977891 Estonia_IA
0.21986556 Russia_IA

Nurzat

10-04-2025, 09:27 AM

Czech IA looks Celtic. Russia IA is between Baltic Bronze Age and Uralic, so it's very northern, not similar to later Slavic.

Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 2.6585% / 0.02658491
49.4 Russia_IA
16.6 Greece_EIA_Argolid
14.6 Czech_IA
12.2 Bulgaria_IA
5.4 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
1.8 Estonia_IA

Distance to: Nurzat_dad
0.05646457 Germany_IA
0.06033758 Czech_IA
0.06111123 Sweden_IA
0.06833789 England_IA
0.07022905 Denmark_IA
0.07348097 Norway_IA
0.08100068 Ireland&Scotland_IA
0.08587024 Hungary_IA
0.08760891 Croatia_IA
0.09027930 Netherlands_IA
0.09175863 Estonia_IA
0.09189941 Albania_IA
0.09567117 Russia_IA
0.10388443 Spain_IA
0.12592845 Bulgaria_IA
0.13043366 Greece_EIA_Messenia
0.14975561 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
0.15542999 Greece_EIA_Argolid

alexmegas777

10-04-2025, 09:33 AM

Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 2.4424% / 0.02442368 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.4 Greece_EIA_Argolid
19.8 Russia_IA
19.0 Czech_IA
15.6 Greece_EIA_Messenia
9.2 Estonia_IA

Dr.Fiskero

10-04-2025, 10:06 AM

so Spartans were sort of half Balkan half Northern Euro.

Eh?

Distance to: Greece_EIA_Messenia
0.04376803 Sicilian_East
0.04508047 Greek_Apulia
0.04529958 Sicilian_East_Syracuse
0.04572918 Greek_Cyclades_Milos
0.04580595 Italian_Apulia

Distance to: Greece_EIA_Argolid
0.06265240 Sardinian_Sulcis-Iglesiente
0.06489588 Sicilian_South_Agrigento
0.06809240 Italian_Campania
0.06851849 Greek_Deep_Mani
0.06883175 Italian_Apulia

143650
143651

Messenia is practically a Southern Italian, while Argolid is something between Sardinian and a Greek from Kos. What are you even talking about, lol?

Tacitus

10-04-2025, 12:12 PM

Target: Tacitus_G25sim
Distance: 3.7858% / 0.03785786
38.0 Greece_EIA_Messenia
37.4 Bulgaria_IA
12.4 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
10.6 Czech_IA
1.6 Ireland&Scotland_IA

Nurzat

10-04-2025, 12:12 PM

Messenia is practically a Southern Italian, while Argolid is something between Sardinian and a Greek from Kos. What are you even talking about, lol?

oh I thought the result on D*ck's post was of Spartans, it was actually his own probably

Gannicus

10-04-2025, 12:55 PM

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02821072 England_IA
0.03353779 Germany_IA
0.04262617 Czech_IA
0.04640507 Ireland&Scotland_IA
0.04808795 Denmark_IA
0.05082882 Norway_IA
0.06051276 Sweden_IA
0.06092693 Netherlands_IA
0.07467024 Spain_IA
0.07935385 Croatia_IA
0.08174380 Hungary_IA
0.08512814 Albania_IA
0.11446084 Estonia_IA
0.12540206 Greece_EIA_Messenia
0.12749991 Bulgaria_IA
0.12898177 Russia_IA
0.14756347 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
0.15657029 Greece_EIA_Argolid

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0216% / 0.02156111 | R5P
74.5 England_IA
9.0 Denmark_IA
6.0 Greece_EIA_Messenia
5.4 Spain_IA
5.1 Greece_Archaic_Phocis

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0217% / 0.02166841 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.3 England_IA
6.1 Greece_EIA_Messenia
4.5 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
4.1 Spain_IA

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0218% / 0.02183457 | R4P
83.4 England_IA
9.9 Greece_EIA_Messenia
6.7 Spain_IA

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0218% / 0.02183457 | ADC: 0.5x RC
83.4 England_IA
9.9 Greece_EIA_Messenia
6.7 Spain_IA

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02204602 10.80% Greece_Archaic_Phocis + 89.20% England_IA
0.02229488 12.20% Greece_EIA_Messenia + 87.80% England_IA
0.02264756 9.80% Greece_EIA_Argolid + 90.20% England_IA
0.02265072 11.80% Bulgaria_IA + 88.20% England_IA
0.02356964 17.00% Croatia_IA + 83.00% England_IA
0.02413729 15.20% Albania_IA + 84.80% England_IA
0.02456646 83.60% England_IA + 16.40% Spain_IA
0.02542202 86.40% England_IA + 13.60% Hungary_IA
0.02626297 23.00% Greece_Archaic_Phocis + 77.00% Norway_IA
0.02767428 77.60% England_IA + 22.40% Germany_IA
0.02823915 21.60% Greece_EIA_Argolid + 78.40% Norway_IA
0.02852306 36.20% Croatia_IA + 63.80% Norway_IA
0.02886489 21.00% Greece_Archaic_Phocis + 79.00% Denmark_IA
0.02925328 25.00% Bulgaria_IA + 75.00% Norway_IA
0.02943424 19.80% Greece_EIA_Argolid + 80.20% Denmark_IA

Live The Magic

10-04-2025, 12:58 PM

What's your background?

Polish

Usernotfound

10-04-2025, 01:15 PM

Distance: 2.7989% / 0.02798949 | R3P
36.8 Russia_IA
35.2 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
28.0 Albania_IA

Distance: 2.7056% / 0.02705551 | R4P
36.8 Russia_IA
29.0 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
22.0 Albania_IA
12.2 Greece_EIA_Messenia

tk'es

10-04-2025, 01:20 PM

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 0.0478% / 0.04782647
66.8 Caucasus
18.5 Sweden_IA
14.7 Ciscaucasia

Live The Magic

10-04-2025, 07:16 PM

Nurzat

10-04-2025, 08:05 PM

How am I more Baltic than you?

Target: LiveTheMagic_scaled
Distance: 3.3359% / 0.03335922 | ADC: 1x RC
46.6 Estonia_IA
36.0 Germany_IA
17.4 Sweden_IA

Russia IA is between Baltic BA and Estonia IA, so it's sort of Balto-Uralic, so overall she scores more that and more northern (all three components are northernmost, while you score 1/3 Germany).

userNa

10-04-2025, 08:09 PM

Are there G25 cords? I'm sure the Greek authorities have Alexander the Great's dna results including his Ydna but won't disclose it.

There are 4 of them. 2 of them were 178cm tall, the other two were 181cm and 185cm.

nice calculator bro. I love both Spartans and Srbs.

Live The Magic

10-04-2025, 08:38 PM

Russia IA is between Baltic BA and Estonia IA, so it's sort of Balto-Uralic, so overall she scores more that and more northern (all three components are northernmost, while you score 1/3 Germany).

What do you mean? The Germany_IA is in the Germanic zone (similar to modern Dutch people), wouldn't say its a southern component.

On PCA it looks like:
https://i.ibb.co/svkSvc6q/spartan-g25-pca.png

gixajo

10-04-2025, 09:37 PM

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.0809% / 0.02080929
46.0 Spain_IA
14.6 Ireland&Scotland_IA
14.4 Bulgaria_IA
7.6 Hungary_IA
7.4 England_IA
4.4 Greece_EIA_Argolid
4.2 Czech_IA
1.4 Greece_Archaic_Phocis

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.1040% / 0.02104022 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.6 Spain_IA
25.2 Bulgaria_IA
25.2 Ireland&Scotland_IA

0.027 gixajo_scaled = 54% Spain_IA + 46% Hungary_IA
0.028 gixajo_scaled = 64% Spain_IA + 36% Croatia_IA
0.029 gixajo_scaled = 78% Spain_IA + 22% Czech_IA
0.030 gixajo_scaled = 73% Spain_IA + 27% Germany_IA
0.030 gixajo_scaled = 82% Spain_IA + 18% Greece_EIA_Messenia
0.031 gixajo_scaled = 73% Hungary_IA + 27% England_IA
0.031 gixajo_scaled = 78% Spain_IA + 22% England_IA
0.031 gixajo_scaled = 83% Spain_IA + 17% Sweden_IA
0.031 gixajo_scaled = 82% Spain_IA + 18% Bulgaria_IA
0.032 gixajo_scaled = 73% Spain_IA + 27% Albania_IA
0.032 gixajo_scaled = 82% Spain_IA + 18% Ireland&Scotland_IA
0.032 gixajo_scaled = 84% Spain_IA + 16% Denmark_IA
0.032 gixajo_scaled = 81% Hungary_IA + 19% Netherlands_IA
0.032 gixajo_scaled = 72% Hungary_IA + 28% Germany_IA
0.033 gixajo_scaled = 79% Hungary_IA + 21% Ireland&Scotland_IA
0.033 gixajo_scaled = 81% Hungary_IA + 19% Norway_IA
0.033 gixajo_scaled = 85% Spain_IA + 15% Norway_IA
0.033 gixajo_scaled = 81% Hungary_IA + 19% Denmark_IA
0.033 gixajo_scaled = 58% Ireland&Scotland_IA + 42% Greece_EIA_Argolid
0.033 gixajo_scaled = 88% Spain_IA + 12% Greece_Archaic_Phocis

Dick

10-05-2025, 01:05 AM

nice calculator bro. I love both Spartans and Srbs.

Thank you for the kind words and the co-ordinates, bro.

Nurzat

10-05-2025, 05:31 AM

What do you mean? The Germany_IA is in the Germanic zone (similar to modern Dutch people), wouldn't say its a southern component.

On PCA it looks like:
https://i.ibb.co/svkSvc6q/spartan-g25-pca.png

I didn't mean it's more southern - I meant it's less Baltic (more Celto-Germanic), because you mentioned you're more Baltic. anyway Poland is Baltic so Poles are pretty Baltic in general anyway, but if you look where Russia IA is, it's in the Estonia IA range and close to Baltic BA as well, so my point is Russia IA is mostly Baltic as well, so her Russia IA + Estonia IA can go as Baltic together, which makes it a high score

noricum

10-05-2025, 06:29 AM

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.7184% / 0.01718359
38.0 Czech_IA
34.0 Russia_IA
16.4 Greece_EIA_Argolid
11.6 Hungary_IA

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 0.0202% / 0.02022692 | ADC: 0.5x RC
38.6 Hungary_IA
31.7 Czech_IA
29.7 Russia_IA

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.04177006 Czech_IA
0.04399672 Germany_IA
0.04549832 Sweden_IA
0.05257477 England_IA
0.05630375 Denmark_IA
0.05947671 Norway_IA
0.06139105 Ireland&Scotland_IA
0.07647060 Hungary_IA
0.07852661 Netherlands_IA
0.08451056 Croatia_IA
0.08814034 Albania_IA
0.09209269 Spain_IA
0.09452163 Estonia_IA
0.09489577 Russia_IA
0.12825317 Bulgaria_IA
0.13033408 Greece_EIA_Messenia
0.15286675 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
0.15833630 Greece_EIA_Argolid

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.02487297 53.20% Croatia_IA + 46.80% Russia_IA
0.02638360 56.00% Hungary_IA + 44.00% Russia_IA
0.02857664 52.00% Albania_IA + 48.00% Russia_IA
0.02995785 18.00% Greece_EIA_Argolid + 82.00% Sweden_IA
0.03078833 21.20% Bulgaria_IA + 78.80% Sweden_IA
0.03104940 32.20% Hungary_IA + 67.80% Sweden_IA
0.03126415 41.80% Bulgaria_IA + 58.20% Russia_IA
0.03180765 17.80% Greece_Archaic_Phocis + 82.20% Sweden_IA
0.03271602 43.80% Estonia_IA + 56.20% Hungary_IA
0.03278564 28.80% Croatia_IA + 71.20% Sweden_IA
0.03288540 27.80% Albania_IA + 72.20% Sweden_IA
0.03341637 36.40% Greece_EIA_Argolid + 63.60% Russia_IA
0.03348839 37.40% Greece_Archaic_Phocis + 62.60% Russia_IA
0.03487275 74.80% Czech_IA + 25.20% Hungary_IA
0.03520885 18.60% Greece_EIA_Messenia + 81.40% Sweden_IA
0.03566430 41.20% Greece_EIA_Messenia + 58.80% Russia_IA
0.03602492 12.00% Greece_EIA_Argolid + 88.00% Czech_IA
0.03644437 20.20% Albania_IA + 79.80% Czech_IA
0.03648625 53.40% Croatia_IA + 46.60% Estonia_IA
0.03650444 78.20% Germany_IA + 21.80% Russia_IA
0.03665695 86.00% Czech_IA + 14.00% Bulgaria_IA
0.03680109 79.40% Czech_IA + 20.60% Croatia_IA
0.03710483 61.20% Denmark_IA + 38.80% Hungary_IA
0.03769272 10.80% Greece_Archaic_Phocis + 89.20% Czech_IA
0.03777357 53.00% Germany_IA + 47.00% Sweden_IA

Dušan

10-06-2025, 04:32 PM

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.5169% / 0.02516878
47.4 Russia_IA
20.8 Greece_EIA_Messenia
19.2 Greece_EIA_Argolid
12.0 Hungary_IA
0.6 Sweden_IA

Mortimer

10-06-2025, 04:44 PM

Distance to: Svetozar_scaled
0.09388809 Croatia_IA
0.10597760 Germany_IA
0.10743749 Albania_IA
0.10922724 Hungary_IA
0.11157630 Greece_EIA_Messenia
0.11688666 Bulgaria_IA
0.11776385 Czech_IA
0.11861551 England_IA
0.12500672 Sweden_IA
0.12757138 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
0.12761499 Denmark_IA
0.12942939 Spain_IA
0.13099460 Netherlands_IA
0.13344705 Ireland&Scotland_IA
0.13617882 Norway_IA
0.13797727 Greece_EIA_Argolid
0.15623031 Estonia_IA
0.16903887 Russia_IA

Target: Svetozar_scaled
Distance: 8.1290% / 0.08129020
33.2 Estonia_IA
30.6 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
30.0 Greece_EIA_Messenia
6.2 Netherlands_IA

Mortimer

10-06-2025, 05:00 PM

Target: Svetozar_scaled
Distance: 2.1058% / 0.02105812
58.0 Roma_Balkans
17.8 Greece_EIA_Argolid
17.2 Estonia_IA
4.2 Netherlands_IA
2.8 Greece_EIA_Messenia

Wend-Kruzek

10-06-2025, 05:14 PM

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 1.9488% / 0.01948844 | R5P
38.6 Russia_IA
25.8 Sweden_IA
15.0 Czech_IA
10.4 Greece_EIA_Argolid
10.2 Greece_EIA_Messenia

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 2.1080% / 0.02107974 | R3P
47.2 Sweden_IA
34.4 Russia_IA
18.4 Greece_EIA_Argolid

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 1.9451% / 0.01945091 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.8 Russia_IA
24.4 Sweden_IA
15.0 Czech_IA
9.8 Greece_EIA_Messenia
9.2 Greece_EIA_Argolid
2.6 Albania_IA
2.2 Estonia_IA

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 1.9825% / 0.01982451 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.6 Russia_IA
18.2 Sweden_IA
14.2 Czech_IA
12.6 Greece_EIA_Messenia
10.0 Albania_IA
5.4 Hungary_IA

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 1.9923% / 0.01992263 | R4P
40.8 Sweden_IA
37.2 Russia_IA
11.6 Greece_EIA_Messenia
10.4 Greece_EIA_Argolid

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 3.5584% / 0.03558367 | ADC: 1x RC
70.8 Sweden_IA
29.2 Germany_IA

Distance to: LudovitKruzek_scaled
0.03824757 Sweden_IA
0.04501419 Czech_IA
0.04914428 Germany_IA
0.05348109 Denmark_IA
0.05369138 England_IA
0.05452109 Norway_IA
0.06133304 Ireland&Scotland_IA
0.07673879 Netherlands_IA
0.07746783 Estonia_IA
0.08159697 Russia_IA
0.09151364 Hungary_IA
0.09821362 Croatia_IA
0.10078449 Albania_IA
0.10409699 Spain_IA
0.14011742 Greece_EIA_Messenia
0.14203191 Bulgaria_IA
0.16669046 Greece_Archaic_Phocis
0.17270877 Greece_EIA_Argolid