My Piotr Kapucinski Report aka Peterski

[Mortimer]

Recent and Standard Mode

https://i.ibb.co/V6FXjsN/Screenshot-2025-10-04-06-18-59-718-com-mi-globalbrowser.jpg (https://ibb.co/npXhgF0)
https://i.ibb.co/S7d4rx2w/Screenshot-2025-10-04-06-19-11-070-com-mi-globalbrowser.jpg (https://ibb.co/sJ6dHPh9)
https://i.ibb.co/YFK2qfD0/Screenshot-2025-10-04-06-19-29-528-com-mi-globalbrowser.jpg (https://ibb.co/pBs294Wh)
https://i.ibb.co/mjPMBmw/Screenshot-2025-10-04-06-17-20-560-com-mi-globalbrowser.jpg (https://ibb.co/rjX1tgS)
https://i.ibb.co/PGZgcZK7/Screenshot-2025-10-04-06-17-28-004-com-mi-globalbrowser.jpg (https://ibb.co/fdYHkYfh)
https://i.ibb.co/vK0hMXf/Screenshot-2025-10-04-06-17-46-923-com-mi-globalbrowser.jpg (https://ibb.co/WYm0RV7)
https://i.ibb.co/VpxtVYg1/Screenshot-2025-10-04-06-17-57-807-com-mi-globalbrowser.jpg (https://ibb.co/JFqKnjv1)
https://i.ibb.co/0VG1T2cX/Screenshot-2025-10-04-06-18-10-352-com-mi-globalbrowser.jpg (https://ibb.co/2YkRxhy6)
https://i.ibb.co/NgBKSsTM/Screenshot-2025-10-04-06-18-20-748-com-mi-globalbrowser.jpg (https://ibb.co/SDCBrPfz)
https://i.ibb.co/KjfFjR0j/Screenshot-2025-10-04-06-18-35-206-com-mi-globalbrowser.jpg (https://ibb.co/Z6FW6tL6)

[~Elizabeth~]

You have a teensy bit of Japanese and some Australian Aboriginal. That's unexpected.

[Mortimer]

You have a teensy bit of Japanese and some Australian Aboriginal. That's unexpected.

Probably some bleedthrough from my AASI of the Indian

[Mortimer]

The russian in my reports is rather central asian or such a minority
It says Avar

[Tooting Carmen]

You seem way more European than expected. Or is it that they see Romani themselves as European?

[Mortimer]

You seem way more European than expected. Or is it that they see Romani themselves as European?

Recent mode sees romani as europeans
Standard mode not

[Mortimer]

You seem way more European than expected. Or is it that they see Romani themselves as European?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?398490-Mortimers-newest-23andme-update

[Peterski]

Yes in Recent Mode Mortimer scores 100% European but that's because I count Romani groups as European in this mode. As you can see he scores Romania Roma, Spain Gitanos, Albania Roma and Portugal Gitanos. While in Standard Mode he scores 17% of South Asia and interestingly the largest percentage of his South Asian is the Kurmi ethnic group:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurmi

[Mortimer]

Yes in Recent Mode Mortimer scores 100% European but that's because I count Romani groups as European in this mode. As you can see he scores Romania Roma, Spain Gitanos, Albania Roma and Portugal Gitanos. While in Standard Mode he scores 17% of South Asia and interestingly the largest percentage of his South Asian is the Kurmi ethnic group:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurmi

Thanks Peterski

[Peterski]

Also in Standard Mode he scores a lot of Vidin Province of Bulgaria which is right next to the Serbian border. But in 23andMe he also scored Bulgarian before Serbian.

[Mortimer]

Also in Standard Mode he scores a lot of Vidin Province of Bulgaria which is right next to the Serbian border. But in 23andMe he also scored Bulgarian before Serbian.

I think thats not unusual for some serbs hazmatnik also has more bulgarian then serb
I think it depends on the person but most are somewhere split between the bulgarian and the serb i think it covers a part of serbia

[djipon]

Vidin Province has a lot of Roma intermixture, but most of them have Bulgarian identity. Maybe that's why he scores?

[Mortimer]

Vidin Province has a lot of Roma intermixture, but most of them have Bulgarian identity. Maybe that's why he scores?

It could be a part of my roma ancestry yes the 17%indian do not cover all of my roma ancestry obviously

[Peterski]

Vidin Province has a lot of Roma intermixture, but most of them have Bulgarian identity. Maybe that's why he scores?

I don't think so because I filtered out such samples with South Asian admixture and I used only pure Bulgarians as reference samples. It is more likely his Serbian from across the border.


It could be a part of my roma ancestry yes the 17%indian do not cover all of my roma ancestry obviously

Greek is probably the European part of your Roma.

[Gohenk]

Nice results bro

[Mortimer]

I don't think so because I filtered out such samples with South Asian admixture and I used only pure Bulgarians as reference samples. It is more likely his Serbian from across the border.



Greek is probably the European part of your Roma.

What do you think of the italian french and russian avar
Is the avar a part of roma ancestry like central asian
Is the italian and french a part of balkan or possibly distant central european

Thanks

[rothaer]

You have a teensy bit of Japanese and some Australian Aboriginal. That's unexpected.

I expected Australian Aboriginal in Mortimer. 😜

[Opie]

Yes in Recent Mode Mortimer scores 100% European but that's because I count Romani groups as European in this mode. As you can see he scores Romania Roma, Spain Gitanos, Albania Roma and Portugal Gitanos. While in Standard Mode he scores 17% of South Asia and interestingly the largest percentage of his South Asian is the Kurmi ethnic group:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurmi

Does your standard mode make South and Central Italians part West Asian?

IllustrativeDNA models them as a mix of Italics+Roman Anatolian+Viking.

[Mortimer]

Question

Thanks



What do you think of the italian french and russian avar
Is the avar a part of roma ancestry like central asian
Is the italian and french a part of balkan or possibly distant central european

Thanks

[Mortimer]

Does your standard mode make South and Central Italians part West Asian?

IllustrativeDNA models them as a mix of Italics+Roman Anatolian+Viking.

Do you count Roman Anatolian as westasian?
Many balkans score that too

[Opie]

Do you count Roman Anatolian as westasian?
Many balkans score that too

Open the map and look at where the Anatolia is.

[Opie]

Yes in Recent Mode Mortimer scores 100% European but that's because I count Romani groups as European in this mode. As you can see he scores Romania Roma, Spain Gitanos, Albania Roma and Portugal Gitanos. While in Standard Mode he scores 17% of South Asia and interestingly the largest percentage of his South Asian is the Kurmi ethnic group:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurmi

If Romanis are European, Balkan Turks, Crimean Tatars, Lipka Tatars and Mishar Tatars are easily European.

[Mortimer]

If Romanis are European, Balkan Turks, Crimean Tatars, Lipka Tatars and Mishar Tatars are easily European.

On illustrative DNA Balkan turks and crimean tatars are counted as europeans

[Impaler]

On illustrative DNA Balkan turks and crimean tatars are counted as europeans

Should I try this for my father? 23andMe V5 data works?

[Mortimer]

Should I try this for my father? 23andMe V5 data works?

You could try it yes v5 works

[Impaler]

But your results are accurate?

[Peterski]

If Romanis are European, Balkan Turks, Crimean Tatars, Lipka Tatars and Mishar Tatars are easily European.Balkan Turks are counted as Edirne region in my test, Crimean Tatars as Crimea, Lipka Tatars as Belarus.

Mishar Tatars are counted in Russia.


Question

Thanks

I think Italian is part of your Serbian ancestry, while Caucasus Avar is probably part of your Roma.

[Mortimer]

But your results are accurate?

It aligns broadly with other results i have
Not exactly but broadly

[Mortimer]

Balkan Turks are counted as Edirne region in my test, Crimean Tatars as Crimea, Lipka Tatars as Belarus.

Mishar Tatars are counted in Russia.



I think Italian is part of your Serbian ancestry, while Caucasus Avar is probably part of your Roma.

I have vague stories of distant russian and hungarian ancestry
Did you know that when you modelled me and did you looked for it
Im not exactly fifty fifty serbian and roma

[Impaler]

I have vague stories of distant russian and hungarian ancestry
Did you know that when you modelled me and did you looked for it
Im not exactly fifty fifty serbian and roma

How much Roma you are? 56.25% You score 11% South Asian on 23andMe and my father 8.5% So I guess he is in the 37.5% range.

[Mortimer]

How much Roma you are? 56.25% You score 11% South Asian on 23andMe and my father 8.5% So I guess he is in the 37.5% range.

Yes more then fifty but less then sixty to be correct in 0.xx%percent i think all of my roma ancestors would have be really hundred percent roma but its Impossible to know i knew i have a russian ancestor but some relatives recently told me i have distant hungarian ancestry too

But im quite correct about the 56.25% a few points less maybe but around that

Your father scores more westasian then me less southasian he has western turkish provinces i only eastern turkish under Mesopotamien so your father is probably less roma then me but also a bit extra turkish which im not