Natalija Gynku, Russian goddess

[Saruman]

And model & pilot, (176 cm).:bow00002:

http://fashiontime.ru/images/models/4068/77b12ce1e8c8c9d5799344b97b0bd119.jpg

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http://fashiontime.ru/images/models/4068/02bfa497f1b7bc1d6a849d97a75eb8c7.jpg

http://slav-beauty.narod.ru/photo/Nat/S1.jpg

http://gynku.ru/wp-content/gallery/snapshoots/mt-002.jpg

http://www.fashiontime.ru/upload/iblock/acb/815401y35907ofokfwgivpaggoe_uckazfklmw2w550.jpg

http://www.design-warez.ru/uploads/posts/2009-04/1240394732_1238359653_2844843_large.jpg

http://fashiontime.ru/images/models/4068/ae91b41f92686a41731e95dde69189f5.jpg

[Gunslinger]

West Baltid

She's from Belarus

[Hurrem sultana]

that last picture was unnecessary :D

[Ushtari]

http://fashiontime.ru/images/models/4068/ae91b41f92686a41731e95dde69189f5.jpg
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/228/dat.jpg

[Saruman]

that last picture was unnecessary :D

To present all of her vast assets. :D Elongated and curvy, not so usual.
Besides, it's no nudity, some European states even encouraged artistic nudity.

[Mordid]

Nordid+West Baltid.

[Querubín]

Marry me :love:

[Querubín]

Nordid+West Baltid.

Agree

[oyster]

It's strange that she has a Romanian surname (Gîncu, Hîncu), usually found in Romanians from Eastern Romania or the Rep. of Moldova. I don't know her story; her father's side must be Romanian or of Romanian stock.

[Olika]

It's strange that she has a Romanian surname (Gîncu, Hîncu), usually found in Romanians from Eastern Romania or the Rep. of Moldova. I don't know her story; her father's side must be Romanian or of Romanian stock.
this her not real surname

[Saruman]

this her not real surname

фамилия: Гынку
имя: Наталия
отчество: Александровна

I thought her surname was somewhat odd for Russia. Though there are some other people with that surname in Russia.

[Gunslinger]

this her not real surname

How do you know it?

[Olika]

How do you know it?
lol she told me

[Olika]

фамилия: Гынку
имя: Наталия
отчество: Александровна

I thought her surname was somewhat odd for Russia. Though there are some other people with that surname in Russia.
no.her real surname Senkevich.

[Mordid]

lol she told me
Wut and you don't even get an autograph from her for me? :(

[Olika]

Wut and you don't even get an autograph from her for me? :(
haha ok I will try :cool:

[Gunslinger]

Гынку is probably her husband's surname, right?

[Olika]

Гынку is probably her husband's surname, right?
yes

[Flintlocke]

that last picture was unnecessary :D

Body type is important you silly girl :p

Nordid, can't say east or west, some other minor elements present.

[Mordid]

Body type is important you silly girl :p


*Fintlocke's girlfriend* *Gasp* Excuse me? What is wrong with me body? Would you keep stop staring at her arse, you perv. How much of a disgusting, slimey pervert you are. *Fintlocke's girlfriend leaving him for good*

*Fintlocke's started to cry* What is wrong with me? *Mordid* I think you are sexually frustrated.

[Flintlocke]

It's important for racial classification purposes ;) Everyone know the round body is Baltid while the lean body is Nordic. :p

[Redar14]

Baltid with east-nordid admixture.

[Geronimo]

I too think she's more on the West-Baltid side than Nordid. She is one spectacular woman :)

[Redar14]

I too think she's more on the West-Baltid side than Nordid. She is one spectacular woman :)

No! West-Baltid is more massive.

[Saruman]

No! West-Baltid is more massive.

lol she is massive! Look at her jaws.

She's Nordid-Westbaltid intermediate.

[Gunslinger]

What's specifically Nordid about her? Nothing

She's just a tad reduced West Baltid

http://i.imgur.com/RR24g.jpg

[Saruman]

What's specifically Nordid about her? Nothing


Narrow nose, limb elongation, neck, cranial tendencies, probably face elongation. On your photos she seems more Westbaltid, but also because she nods her head on the left photo, and because top of her forehead is more rounded whereas in my photos it was covered by hair. Where I counter her Nordid was foremost head form. But Westbaltid is brachycephalic by definition, she still doesn't seem so.

[Gunslinger]

Narrow nose, limb elongation, neck, cranial tendencies, probably face elongation. On your photos she seems more Westbaltid, but also because she nods her head on the left photo, and because top of her forehead is more rounded whereas in my photos it was covered by hair. Where I counter her Nordid was foremost head form. But Westbaltid is brachycephalic by definition, she still doesn't seem so.


West Baltids usually have narrow noses.

She's definitely euryprosopic and brachycephalic. How can't you see it on that photo?

Her bodytype has nothing to do with classification of her phenotype.

If she has Nordid component, it's not significant. There's no need to even mention it.

[Saruman]

West Baltids usually have narrow noses.

No Cromagnoids have narrow noses (for Europid standards), moderately narrow like often in Faelids, and some refined West-Baltids. Some East Cromagnids (not West Baltids) have more narrow and aquiline noses but that is due to selection for those noses among old Kurgan and related groups.



She's definitely euryprosopic and brachycephalic. How can't you see it on that photo?

You're right about FI, I have from another photo measured her FI at 80, though her face doesn't seem short (but it is broader). But her head I'm not sure. Your photo has hair behind bunched up, mine might be better. Though her cranium relatively broader too.
http://gynku.ru/wp-content/gallery/snapshoots/mt-002.jpg




Her bodytype has nothing to do with classification of her phenotype.

It does as certain racial types have associated body types. So West-Baltids are Mesomorphic-Pyknomorphic with first being more important in them on avg. Nordids are leptomorphic. Now of course she has strong Balto-CM derived elements which in her case make her more feminine, but Nordid elongation can be seen too.



If she has Nordid component, it's not significant. There's no need to even mention it.

Her limb shape, and narrow nose I'd mention. Though I must admit, I sometimes might be little biased with idealization, I have overplayed Nordid strength for some other people that I have idealized like January Jones (I then said Nordid, though she has stronger Faelid influences but more Nordid still).:D

[Himera]

Saruman and his refined taste ...

;)

[Saruman]

Saruman and his refined taste ...

;)

Among the large sample of Russian models I looked at, this one was among the best if judged by a standard of combining progressiveness, beauty, harmony, femininity, as well as having noble look elements.:)

[Gunslinger]

It does as certain racial types have associated body types.

Most likely it does - but certainly not always.
I've seen quite a lot of Baltids, Alpinids (even East Baltids) with a bodytype similar to hers.


She's West Baltid basically. All other influences are non-essential.


btw, January Jones looks mainly Baltid to me

http://i.imgur.com/8M0Qv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5gNjL.jpg

[Saruman]

btw, January Jones looks mainly Baltid to me


Now you crossed the line, Calling January Jones "Baltid" is nothing but an insult to Germanic peoples!!


Classification from Agrippa.
Nordid with Dalofaelid, possibly slight Alpinoid influences. Very pretty, harmonious and progressive indeed.
And discussion is over. And your "classification" rednered to that of a charlatan.

Baltid doesn't look like that, Baltid proper can NEVER look like that!
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Baltid:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4234/tatianaukr164uc7.jpg


You have a habit of finding Baltids in the west where they don't practically exist. As well as saying that Brunn's are Baltid!! Nothing but mindbogglingly ridiculous.





She's West Baltid basically. All other influences are non-essential.

First, I think you need to learn on classifications. Yevgeniy Kafelinikov. In him one can see Nordoid facial features, I guess for you he's just Westbaltid? lol
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34070

Second, we may agree to disagree that is all. You seem to be under some delusion that you represent some "authority" that can force others what to think? If so we should have this discussion in real life, and then I assure you, your impression of authority will be rendered non-existent promptly.

[Mordid]

First, I think you need to learn on classifications.
He is what we call wanker classifier.

[Gunslinger]

Now you crossed the line, Calling January Jones "Baltid" is nothing but an insult to Germanic peoples!!

LOL since when Baltid has become an insult?



Classification from Agrippa.
Nordid with Dalofaelid, possibly slight Alpinoid influences. Very pretty, harmonious and progressive indeed.
And discussion is over. And your "classification" rednered to that of a charlatan.


Why do you always refer to Agrippa? It is not him who invented all these terms.



First, I think you need to learn on classifications. Yevgeniy Kafelinikov. In him one can see Nordoid facial features, I guess for you he's just Westbaltid? lol
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34070

Of course he's not just West baltid. You're making that up.


Second, we may agree to disagree that is all. You seem to be under some delusion that you represent some "authority" that can force others what to think? If so we should have this discussion in real life, and then I assure you, your impression of authority will be rendered non-existent promptly.

Hey, relax. It seems that you are very excitable. You just didn't agree with obvious things. And i didn't like that.
Narrow nose is her only nordid trait. She also has slanted eyes, but that doesn't mean we should call her Lappoid or something.

[Mordid]

Why do you always refer to Agrippa? It is not him who invented all these terms.

Because he's a jesus among Saruman. Agrippa this, Agrippa that, Agrippa this.. Fuck, you gotta stop worship Agrippa too much, Saruman. :D

[Hess]

Because he's a jesus among Saruman. Agrippa this, Agrippa that, Agrippa this.. Fuck, you gotta stop worship Agrippa too much, Saruman

He may not be Jesus, but he knows a hell of a lot more about taxonomy than this whole forum combined

[Saruman]

LOL since when Baltid has become an insult?

Baltid type is not as advanced as Nordid, nor as Dalofaelid. Calling Nordo-Faelid "Baltids" is.. degrading them, what else. It implies they are less advanced, I mean Nordo-Baltid mix can be quite progressive and females great looking and feminine, but you just said "mostly Baltid", it's almost impossible for a Pred. standard Baltid to be at their level (Nordo-Faelid combo)



Why do you always refer to Agrippa? It is not him who invented all these terms.

Objectively speaking he knows most, and also he based his opinions upon views of many great esteemed anthropologists, as well as some more modern findings. That is not to say I agree with him on everything but on great many things, yes.




Of course he's not just West baltid. You're making that up.

It was just my prediction that you might say that.




Hey, relax. It seems that you are very excitable.

I'm not, only if pushed to a point, and especially on matters involving authority.



You just didn't agree with obvious things. And i didn't like that.

Those "obvious" things can be contestable.




Narrow nose is her only nordid trait. She also has slanted eyes, but that doesn't mean we should call her Lappoid or something.

lol, She is clearly narrow-longer headed. Yes her eyes are slightly slanted, but it's unimportant, and within the range of certain populations in the North. Her nose is slightly with Alpinoid influences. Her forehead is more Nordid-Faelid, cheekbones more Faelid influenced. Metrically she's rather more Nordid.
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http://hairstyles.thehairstyler.com/hairstyle_views/front_view_images/2052/original/january-Jones.jpg

She's a woman also and they are less robust, especially her type is more delicate.


Because he's a jesus among Saruman. Agrippa this, Agrippa that, Agrippa this.. Fuck, you gotta stop worship Agrippa too much, Saruman. :D

He's right in most cases isn't he. Though I must say on things "Aryan" I often agreed with aherne.:D At least if from an idealistic point of view.

[Gunslinger]

This disputation is not about January Jones and you know it. Please, stay on topic.


Objectively speaking he knows most, and also he based his opinions upon views of many great esteemed anthropologists, as well as some more modern findings. That is not to say I agree with him on everything but on great many things, yes.

If he asked you to jump from the roof of some building, you would do it.
That's the impression i've got from your posts.
Because no matter what he say, you always agree with him.



lol, She is clearly narrow-longer headed. Yes her eyes are slightly slanted, but it's unimportant, and within the range of certain populations in the North. Her nose is slightly with Alpinoid influences. Her forehead is more Nordid-Faelid, cheekbones more Faelid influenced. Metrically she's rather more Nordid.


I actually meant Gynku in my post, not Jones.
i can repeat this:

Narrow nose is her only nordid trait. She also has slanted eyes, but that doesn't mean we should call her Lappoid or something.

I mean that's not the reason to say she has a significant Nordid component because of only one trait.

[Norbert]

Unusual surname, doesn't read particularly East-Slavic to me.

[Raskolnikov]

Now you crossed the line, Calling January Jones "Baltid" is nothing but an insult to Germanic peoples!!


Classification from Agrippa.
Nordid with Dalofaelid, possibly slight Alpinoid influences. Very pretty, harmonious and progressive indeed.
And discussion is over. And your "classification" rednered to that of a charlatan.

Baltid doesn't look like that, Baltid proper can NEVER look like that!Shows exactly the Eugenicist-Nordicist background to the Progressive schema. The problem with this system is that it isn't based on race-ethnographical understanding so much as gradients of superiority. Many of the types these gradients of ideal superior-inferior types, not statistical correlations or common sense at all.

Speaking of West Baltid, there is no such thing except in Soviet anthropology as a PC synonym for Nordid. That should be obvious given where the West Baltic is located.
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/6553/69009040.jpg

[Padre Organtino]

Us, unprogressive semi-armenoid mountain niggas, would like to know what's so shameful in being Baltid? And why is "progressiveness" seen as some ultimate goal?

[Mordid]

He's right in most cases isn't he. Though I must say on things "Aryan" I often agreed with aherne.:D At least if from an idealistic point of view.
He's almost right in every way, but he has somewhat strange view of his own. :P
I also agreed with him, but that doesn't mean I don't worship the ground he walk on, like you do. :D

[Norbert]

She is predominantly West-Baltid.

[Gunslinger]

She is predominantly West-Baltid.

Saruman's gonna be mad. Watch out.

[Lisa]

Nordid + Baltid

[Pallantides]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/228/dat.jpg

That's no ass...:confused:
such a sorry excuse for an ass.

[Panopticon]

That's no ass...:confused:
such a sorry excuse for an ass.

Imo she has a pretty well-formed ass; overall very nice body.

[Pallantides]

Sure if you settle for less.

[Saruman]

Shows exactly the Eugenicist-Nordicist background to the Progressive schema.

It does have to a degree such background actually, undoubtedly because the Nordid type is on avg. we might say the no.1 type on this planet, even if there are some close followers.


The problem with this system is that it isn't based on race-ethnographical understanding so much as gradients of superiority.

If not as "superiority" then as what else is to be understood? Simply put beings evolve and in some their environment causes their evolution to be more favorable, in others less so. It's something that can be seen in animal kingdom as well.
In big part it is precisely the notion of superiority that justifies "preservation" = to maintain the positive development. Which indirectly is not only for the sake of those being "preserved" but for the sake of evolution as well.

Great many people who are into this think along the egalitarian lines, that all "whites" are superior to asians, blacks etc. That is the case on avg. but individually certainly not absolutely, especially with regard to east Asians. Heck there are even relatively pure Negrids with better traits than some archaic Europeans!
Still I do not express negative feelings for other races per se, nor do I think they can't be racialist, they certainly can and since they are behind Europe actually that should make them more motivated to be racialists!:D
Also what needs to be kept in mind is technology and it's ability to alter the course of evolution in the future.



Many of the types these gradients of ideal superior-inferior types, not statistical correlations or common sense at all.

There can be found statistical correlations, and as for common sense what is "superior" is usually attractive looking as well.:D



Speaking of West Baltid, there is no such thing except in Soviet anthropology as a PC synonym for Nordid. That should be obvious given where the West Baltic is located.


So what, the important thing to say about Westbaltid is that it is a part balticised Cromagnon type, which is in many cases refined and rather looking like a balticised Faelid. We may call the type "Latvid" whatever..
When it comes to progressive features it is clearly above those fully balticised Cromangon types especially in the case of males!




If he asked you to jump from the roof of some building, you would do it.
That's the impression i've got from your posts.
Because no matter what he say, you always agree with him.


I do agree with him often as I've said, and surely he's the best classifier, so especially when I invite him to classify someone, I thank his post, thanking post and fully agreeing aren't same things for me, I often agree with some to just to appreciate their effort. That's the definition of thanking posts on this forum, on others it's "agreeing".
I don't function like a blind worshiper but rather a credit giver where credit is due.




I actually meant Gynku in my post, not Jones.
i can repeat this:

I mean that's not the reason to say she has a significant Nordid component because of only one trait.

OK, her eyes are somewhat slanted, but they aren't shaped in an Eastbaltid way and some regular Baltoids do have somewhat slanted eyes, not as much as Eastbaltids on avg. ofc.

Well when you added your photos, I said she looked more Westbaltid on your pics, those photos are better judge for determining CI and also her more rounded forehead was revealed. On my photos her head looks narrower though.
So actually I tried to determine a reasonable CI for her from those photos, and it seems about 80 mark (at most), border between brachycephaly and mesocephaly. I can't be fully sure on this but it's "reasonable" at least. So relying on that if that's correct (her head still looks longer but also broader), Westbaltid or slightly balticised Cromagnoid is predominant then, Nordid influence being more narrowed nose, as well as something of body built although her body shows obvious Mesomorphic tendencies too, certainly her breasts aren't so common in fully Leptomorphic individuals. I still can't exclude Nordid on head..
Certainly she'd be among best Westbaltids I saw.:D




Unusual surname, doesn't read particularly East-Slavic to me.

Olika explained it.


He's almost right in every way, but he has somewhat strange view of his own. :P
I also agreed with him, but that doesn't mean I don't worship the ground he walk on, like you do. :D

Mordy that sentence is contradictory isn't it. :D Seriously, he has good knowledge not only about anthropology but other issues. No I do not "worship" him.

[Mordid]

Pallantides has nice Sami arse too, must be from his mother.

[Saruman]

Palla why do you always have to spoil my examples of female beauty?:D
What's wrong with her ass? It needs not be ultra-massive!

Ah, now I decided to look for more photos Gunslinger. Definitely she has Nordid on head, it's obvious forehead is actually more narrow and shaped in a typical Aurignacid + Baltid fashion. Skull side doesn't really broaden after browridges, also forehead goes vertically parallel to browridges.. Compare with some Baltids. Plus somewhat more forward projecting nose. It's to me obvious she has Nordid, even strong. I must revert closer to my original classification.:D And who wins Gunslinger? Hopefully Agrippa will answer on that question.:thumb001:
Once I remember Karl defeated me in classification, I said some Latvian girl was Nordid with Westbaltid influence, he said the opposite and Agrippa agreed with him. :D

http://mtdata.ru/u31/photo3939/20319602892-0/main.jpeg

http://statics.photodom.com/photos/2011/02/22/2125334.jpg

http://cs10819.vkontakte.ru/u5344653/-5/x_f0ebad92.jpg

http://www.dooley.co.za/images/Nat.JPG

http://gynku.ru/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/tv.jpg

[Gunslinger]

And who wins Gunslinger? Hopefully Agrippa will answer on that question.:thumb001:

I don't think his classification will change her phenotype.
So i don't care.

[Mordid]

I don't think his classification will change her phenotype.
So i don't care.
Listen, are you always this stupid or are you just making a special effort today?

[Gunslinger]

Listen, are you always this stupid or are you just making a special effort today?

Shut up. I didn't even try.
No one can outmatch you in that.

[Saruman]

I don't think his classification will change her phenotype.
So i don't care.

You are equating here your opinion with a fact, indirectly stating you're infallible.:dizzy: Now who speaks about worship...

Agrippa is an arbiter, the one who knows most so his opinion counts.:D

I called Sylvanus too and he agreed with Nero (Nordid+Baltid).:D
Besides Mordid is a solid classifier too.

[Mordid]

Shut up. I didn't even try.
No one can outmatch you in that.
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/73/tumblr_ll5jn85O1N1qzocfz.gif

[Sylvanus]

She is basically Nordid+Baltid/Robust Baltoid toward to Faelid with slightly East-Baltid influence on her eyeshape.

The outer corner of her eyes are too high. However this feature on East-Baltids are so old, probably 3-4ky old. Compare with this Nordid-East-Baltid hungarian sample:

http://www.fashiontime.ru/upload/iblock/acb/815401y35907ofokfwgivpaggoe_uckazfklmw2w550.jpg

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=19223&stc=1&d=1327445869

[Sabinae]

Indeed west baltid+nordid.
I am not great with classifications, but, I find some very familiar traits with her, that I can relate to my own classiffication, forwarded by Herr Agrippa.

Also, I share the long limbs, and slender figure, still... shapes...are..errrm... fuller :)

[Smeagol]

East Nordid + Baltid/West Baltid.

[Ultra]

Corded Nordid + Baltid or East Nordic + Baltid. And damn she's hot!

[Kalimtari]

cm-pontid or nordid

[Davy Jones's Locker]

Nordid + Baltid

Agree.