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AnthrogenicaRefugee

11-15-2025, 06:34 PM

This is the official thread for Moldovan/Romanian Global 25 averages.
Here I will post updates to the averages that I gather, as part of my project (https://geneticaromd.github.io/adn/index.html).

If you use Moldovan references in your lists/calculators, I suggest replacing yours with these, as this is the most comprehensive project right now.

Averages were created based on genetic similarity and geographic proximity:

White - Moldovan_Centre (Central Moldovans plus parts of Falesti, Singerei, Soldanesti districts)
Blue - Moldovan_North (Northern Moldovans plus from Moldovan villages over the Northern border in Ukraine)
Yellow - Moldovan_South (Southern Moldovans plus parts of Hincesti district)
Green - Moldovan_StefanVoda (Academic Moldovans from Caplani)
Violet - Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine (Moldovans over the Dniester in Transnistria and from Moldovan villages in Ukraine)
Red - Moldova_Gagauz_Bulgarian (Gagauz and Bulgarian minorities from Moldova and over the border in Ukraine)

https://i.imgur.com/G1WE6S3.jpeg

AnthrogenicaRefugee

11-15-2025, 06:36 PM

November 2025 averages

Moldovan_Centre,0.122960,0.127667,0.040145,0.02006 4,0.027646,0.008354,0.007173,0.006615,-0.000974,-0.002031,-0.001744,-0.001970,0.005033,0.014087,-0.010887,-0.003700,0.004120,-0.000356,0.003415,-0.001129,-0.004067,0.000271,0.003510,-0.000485,-0.000319
Moldovan_North,0.1246718438,0.1246562188,0.0444295 ,0.02681909375,0.0290726875,0.0109378125,0.0080049 375,0.007687125,-0.000945875,-0.003724375,-0.0021821875,-0.00322684375,0.005821125,0.01540515625,-0.01067528125,-0.00425946875,0.00289696875,-0.0003523125,0.00310321875,-0.0012975,-0.0038369375,-0.0002009375,0.003974625,-0.0006853125,-0.000404125
Moldovan_South,0.1274884,0.1358158,0.0366502,0.010 386,0.02796325,0.0081324,0.007442,0.0038768,0.0003 88,-0.0000472,0.005365,0.0009388,0.005481,0.0136404,-0.0099544,-0.0013424,0.004506,0.0004696,0.0011588,-0.0037016,-0.0042266,0.0028214,0.003483,-0.0013248,-0.0002634
Moldovan_StefanVoda,0.121563,0.137300,0.026436,-0.001550,0.023081,0.000084,0.004512,0.003185,-0.001064,0.003390,-0.000341,0.002053,0.002512,0.009868,-0.011563,-0.001910,0.008032,-0.000367,0.004412,-0.000588,-0.004804,0.001781,0.002021,0.000157,-0.000048
Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine,0.1253306667,0.125336333 3,0.050823,0.03475633333,0.0312005,0.01396166667,0 .008519166667,0.009092333333,-0.0008358333333,-0.006383833333,-0.004916833333,-0.005251166667,0.005290833333,0.01524683333,-0.008977833333,-0.001546833333,0.002708833333,-0.002619166667,0.0024035,-0.001127666667,-0.005024333333,0.0006336666667,0.0029855,-0.003901,-0.0005221666667
Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian,0.1216643,0.1343884,0.0200294,-0.002907,0.0195591,0.0013326,0.0068674,0.0046922,-0.003636,0.0036244,-0.0016419,-0.0020814,-0.0014701,0.010123,-0.0104504,-0.0047437,0.0034333,-0.0002674,0.0036034,-0.0029041,-0.0064884,-0.0009343,0.0036838,-0.0049268,6.66e-05

Repent

11-15-2025, 06:42 PM

Distance to: Repent:RealG25_scaled
0.03326948 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.03868206 Moldovan_North
0.04711470 Moldovan_Centre
0.07547022 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.07826869 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian
27.46650191 Moldovan_South

Target: Repent:RealG25_scaled
Distance: 3.3269% / 0.03326948
100.0 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine

AnthrogenicaRefugee

11-15-2025, 06:46 PM

Distance to: Dorkymon_Merged
0.02131266 Moldovan_Centre
0.02132644 Moldovan_North
0.02667416 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.03149031 Moldovan_South
0.04122994 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.04570343 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian

Distance to: Dorkymon_Brother_MyHeritage
0.02161946 Moldovan_North
0.02349956 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02371705 Moldovan_Centre
0.03232695 Moldovan_South
0.04554351 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.04652272 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian

Distance to: Dorkymon_mom_MyHeritage
0.02442656 Moldovan_North
0.02466258 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02789949 Moldovan_Centre
0.03735436 Moldovan_South
0.05048422 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.05431111 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian

Distance to: Dorkymon_dad_MyHeritage
0.01820168 Moldovan_North
0.01959956 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02147394 Moldovan_Centre
0.03275191 Moldovan_South
0.04635699 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.04947843 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian

Distance to: Dorkymon_Grandpa_FTDNA
0.02057213 Moldovan_South
0.02161158 Moldovan_Centre
0.02675398 Moldovan_North
0.03040903 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.03203296 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.03756520 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian

Distance to: Dorkymon_Grandma_FTDNA
0.01687457 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02610362 Moldovan_North
0.03483278 Moldovan_Centre
0.04662630 Moldovan_South
0.06430469 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.06776985 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian

Repent

11-15-2025, 06:48 PM

Dušan

11-15-2025, 06:49 PM

Distance to: Dušan_scaled
0.02632773 Moldovan_North
0.02710106 Moldovan_Centre
0.03197648 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.03271581 Moldovan_South
0.04574420 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.04809035 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian

Within other regional averages. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ze6DjDAlT1_VkGJZ7_jpI9HhKdN9BnU4/view

Distance to: Dušan_scaled
0.02395095 Serb_Croatia
0.02469625 Serb_Bosnia
0.02488593 Serb_WestSerbia
0.02632773 Moldovan_North
0.02695592 Moldovan
0.02695900 Serb_Sumadija
0.02710106 Moldovan_Centre
0.02753235 Serb
0.02813909 Serb_Belgrade
0.02865171 Bosnian
0.02987385 Croat
0.03053343 Croat_Dalmatia
0.03060636 Serb_SouthSerbia
0.03189019 Croat_Bosnia
0.03197648 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.03213185 Croat_Herzegovina
0.03267043 Bosniak_Croatia
0.03271581 Moldovan_South
0.03389753 Montenegrin
0.03449678 Romanian
0.03640112 Serb_Montenegro
0.03652688 Hungarian
0.03859383 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03872550 Bosniak_Sandzak
0.03971085 Slovenian

AnthrogenicaRefugee

11-15-2025, 06:51 PM

Plus official Eurogenes Global 25 modern averages. Old Moldovan average removed.

Distance to: Dorkymon_Merged
0.02131266 Moldovan_Centre
0.02132644 Moldovan_North
0.02463002 Bosnian
0.02556665 Montenegrin
0.02667416 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02817311 Serbian
0.02995318 Croatian
0.03119421 Romanian
0.03149031 Moldovan_South
0.03149614 Hungarian
0.03388830 Slovenian
0.03461029 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03479219 Austrian
0.03620077 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.03747036 Bulgarian
0.03802106 Macedonian
0.04122994 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.04142229 Pomak_Danubian_Plain
0.04293693 German_Erlangen
0.04334777 Slovakian
0.04514841 Czech
0.04570343 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian
0.04708857 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
0.04776949 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.04789206 German

Distance to: Dorkymon_Brother_MyHeritage
0.02161946 Moldovan_North
0.02349956 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02371705 Moldovan_Centre
0.02580217 Bosnian
0.02913208 Serbian
0.02914035 Croatian
0.03054522 Montenegrin
0.03125814 Slovenian
0.03227974 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03232695 Moldovan_South
0.03387620 Hungarian
0.03563085 Romanian
0.03781993 Macedonian
0.03912177 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.04119071 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.04139733 Bulgarian
0.04154912 Austrian
0.04310479 Pomak_Danubian_Plain
0.04554351 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.04590013 Czech
0.04642758 Slovakian
0.04652272 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian
0.04792974 German_Erlangen
0.04973272 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.04979911 German_East

Distance to: Dorkymon_mom_MyHeritage
0.02442656 Moldovan_North
0.02466258 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02484827 Bosnian
0.02684415 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02741404 Croatian
0.02789949 Moldovan_Centre
0.03009791 Slovenian
0.03159322 Hungarian
0.03237894 Serbian
0.03342353 Montenegrin
0.03692337 Slovakian
0.03735436 Moldovan_South
0.03791389 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.03968230 Austrian
0.04050609 Romanian
0.04107361 Czech
0.04322320 Polish_Silesian
0.04405280 Macedonian
0.04446300 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.04571917 German_Erlangen
0.04621857 Russian_Belgorod
0.04680893 Bulgarian
0.04711114 Polish
0.04779799 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.04826383 German_East

Distance to: Dorkymon_dad_MyHeritage
0.01820168 Moldovan_North
0.01959956 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02147394 Moldovan_Centre
0.02245382 Bosnian
0.02547634 Croatian
0.02724362 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02877061 Hungarian
0.02877470 Slovenian
0.03034068 Serbian
0.03038631 Montenegrin
0.03275191 Moldovan_South
0.03629556 Austrian
0.03709026 Romanian
0.03806712 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.04004014 Czech
0.04028825 Slovakian
0.04054491 Macedonian
0.04070475 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.04225020 German_Erlangen
0.04315152 Bulgarian
0.04372326 Polish_Silesian
0.04460513 Pomak_Danubian_Plain
0.04464728 German_East
0.04635699 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.04854012 Polish

Distance to: Dorkymon_Grandpa_FTDNA
0.01622967 Montenegrin
0.01684113 Serbian
0.02057213 Moldovan_South
0.02161158 Moldovan_Centre
0.02172666 Bosnian
0.02244021 Macedonian
0.02245678 Romanian
0.02666126 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.02675398 Moldovan_North
0.02852473 Bulgarian
0.02866528 Croatian
0.03040903 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.03203296 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.03226468 Pomak_Danubian_Plain
0.03342642 Slovenian
0.03457451 Hungarian
0.03518930 Austrian
0.03756520 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian
0.03796483 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
0.03809898 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.03815534 Italian_Northeast
0.03892022 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
0.04060725 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.04219751 Turkish_North_Macedonia
0.04311316 German_Erlangen

Distance to: Dorkymon_Grandma_FTDNA
0.00973771 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.01687457 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.01873328 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.02200085 Hungarian
0.02327185 Croatian
0.02417493 Czech
0.02426945 Slovakian
0.02549796 Slovenian
0.02610362 Moldovan_North
0.02617423 Polish
0.02628752 Polish_Silesian
0.02835179 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.02851151 Russian_Belgorod
0.02942078 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.02978277 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.02997895 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.03117611 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.03122337 Russian_Orel
0.03157451 German_East
0.03199832 Cossack_Ukrainian
0.03212203 Russian_Voronez
0.03233526 Russian_Ryazan
0.03242321 Bosnian
0.03313123 Russian_Kursk
0.03424018 Austrian

AnthrogenicaRefugee

11-15-2025, 06:52 PM

Why do you think I have such a ridiculous distance to Moldova_south?

I copied the wrong thing. Try it again.

AnthrogenicaRefugee

11-15-2025, 06:54 PM

November 2025 averages distance to new averages and Eurogenes Global 25 modern averages (minus old Moldovan average)

Distance to: Moldovan_Centre
0.00980068 Moldovan_North
0.01546444 Serbian
0.01599494 Bosnian
0.01708516 Moldovan_South
0.01783708 Montenegrin
0.02022380 Romanian
0.02153202 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02187145 Croatian
0.02503351 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.02671704 Slovenian
0.02678917 Macedonian
0.02736500 Hungarian
0.02761342 Bulgarian
0.03063038 Pomak_Danubian_Plain
0.03090966 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.03130073 Austrian
0.03341974 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03502735 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian
0.03767596 Turkish_West_Macedonia
0.03903673 German_Erlangen
0.03986809 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.04069335 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
0.04108876 Italian_Northeast
0.04230277 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
0.04272693 Czech

Distance to: Moldovan_North
0.00980068 Moldovan_Centre
0.01300086 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.01612506 Bosnian
0.01669470 Croatian
0.02104325 Hungarian
0.02127526 Slovenian
0.02190569 Serbian
0.02452101 Montenegrin
0.02473104 Moldovan_South
0.02482432 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02860601 Austrian
0.02879260 Romanian
0.03440663 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.03509306 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.03537788 Czech
0.03546825 Macedonian
0.03559892 German_Erlangen
0.03672913 Bulgarian
0.03956296 German_East
0.03966759 Pomak_Danubian_Plain
0.04056502 Slovakian
0.04064716 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.04187757 German
0.04254820 Polish_Silesian
0.04414728 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian

Distance to: Moldovan_South
0.01479878 Serbian
0.01614403 Montenegrin
0.01693845 Romanian
0.01708516 Moldovan_Centre
0.01722185 Macedonian
0.01835721 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.02144258 Bulgarian
0.02224122 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.02236514 Bosnian
0.02357227 Pomak_Danubian_Plain
0.02473104 Moldovan_North
0.02842220 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian
0.03031817 Croatian
0.03151030 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
0.03178127 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.03260740 Turkish_West_Macedonia
0.03354101 Italian_Northeast
0.03449111 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
0.03470867 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.03539274 Slovenian
0.03594818 Turkish_North_Macedonia
0.03692693 Hungarian
0.03732277 Austrian
0.03801363 Torbeši_Polog
0.04336449 French_Alsace

Distance to: Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.01006299 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.01157005 Bulgarian
0.01367574 Pomak_Danubian_Plain
0.01377719 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian
0.01527001 Macedonian
0.01617551 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
0.01635050 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
0.01770734 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.01778263 Romanian
0.02082942 Turkish_North_Macedonia
0.02105229 Torbeši_Polog
0.02224122 Moldovan_South
0.02440051 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02480435 Rumelia_East
0.02544443 Montenegrin
0.02560332 Turkish_West_Macedonia
0.02611057 Greek_Macedonia
0.02638534 Serbian
0.02887817 Albanian
0.02965782 Italian_Northeast
0.03090966 Moldovan_Centre
0.03145724 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.03303611 Greek_Thessaly
0.03383283 Patriyot_West_Macedonia
0.03466168 Swiss_Italian

Distance to: Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.01300086 Moldovan_North
0.01388699 Croatian
0.01570915 Hungarian
0.01599269 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.01684614 Slovenian
0.02153202 Moldovan_Centre
0.02165256 Bosnian
0.02556505 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.02641781 Austrian
0.02687308 Czech
0.03048805 Serbian
0.03133335 Slovakian
0.03186364 German_East
0.03191631 German_Erlangen
0.03255904 Montenegrin
0.03386995 Polish_Silesian
0.03470867 Moldovan_South
0.03697878 Polish
0.03851028 German
0.03870024 German_Hamburg
0.03886029 Romanian
0.04069435 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.04110871 Russian_Belgorod
0.04119734 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.04128802 Ukrainian_Dnipro

Distance to: Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian
0.01377719 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.01529906 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.01569188 Bulgarian
0.01604648 Pomak_Danubian_Plain
0.01700652 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.01927264 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
0.02088193 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
0.02125134 Macedonian
0.02197866 Torbeši_Polog
0.02296240 Turkish_North_Macedonia
0.02309557 Greek_Macedonia
0.02326780 Romanian
0.02388219 Rumelia_East
0.02443125 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02500138 Turkish_West_Macedonia
0.02842220 Moldovan_South
0.02935147 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.03018434 Turkish_Thessaly
0.03103883 Albanian
0.03120799 Greek_Thessaly
0.03266724 Serbian
0.03274643 Montenegrin
0.03347357 Greek_Messenia
0.03394171 Patriyot_West_Macedonia
0.03441111 Greek_Arcadia

Repent

11-15-2025, 06:56 PM

I copied the wrong thing. Try it again.

Distance to: Repent:RealG25_scaled
0.03326948 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.03868206 Moldovan_North
0.04711470 Moldovan_Centre
0.05846680 Moldovan_South
0.07547022 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.07826869 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian

Target: Repent:RealG25_scaled
Distance: 3.3269% / 0.03326948
100.0 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine

AnthrogenicaRefugee

11-15-2025, 07:06 PM

Within other regional averages. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ze6DjDAlT1_VkGJZ7_jpI9HhKdN9BnU4/view

Are the regional non-Davidski-created averages real or simulated? Cool list, I wasn't aware of it.

Distance to: Dorkymon_Merged
0.02131266 Moldovan_Centre
0.02132644 Moldovan_North
0.02428530 Bosniak_Croatia
0.02463058 Bosnian
0.02556650 Montenegrin
0.02570102 Croat_Dalmatia
0.02667416 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02685518 Croat_Herzegovina
0.02814299 Croat_Bosnia
0.02817331 Serb
0.02818156 Serb_Belgrade
0.02899426 Serb_SouthSerbia
0.03022946 Serb_Bosnia
0.03028930 Serb_Sumadija
0.03058748 Serb_Montenegro
0.03119435 Romanian
0.03128254 Serb_WestSerbia
0.03149031 Moldovan_South
0.03149595 Hungarian
0.03150209 Croat
0.03411768 Bosniak_Sandzak
0.03445455 Slovenian
0.03461029 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03479222 Austrian
0.03560246 Serb_Croatia

Distance to: Dorkymon_Brother_MyHeritage
0.02161946 Moldovan_North
0.02349956 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02371705 Moldovan_Centre
0.02477499 Croat
0.02580211 Bosnian
0.02587617 Bosniak_Croatia
0.02640444 Serb_Bosnia
0.02731675 Croat_Dalmatia
0.02768219 Croat_Herzegovina
0.02784443 Croat_Bosnia
0.02857838 Serb_Sumadija
0.02898419 Serb_Belgrade
0.02913250 Serb
0.03007943 Serb_WestSerbia
0.03054491 Montenegrin
0.03168549 Serb_SouthSerbia
0.03227974 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03232695 Moldovan_South
0.03291342 Serb_Croatia
0.03387606 Hungarian
0.03550495 Slovenian
0.03563097 Romanian
0.03570546 Serb_Montenegro
0.03872788 Croat_North
0.03890318 Bosniak_Sandzak

Distance to: Dorkymon_mom_MyHeritage
0.02279707 Bosniak_Croatia
0.02442656 Moldovan_North
0.02445760 Croat_Dalmatia
0.02466258 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02484857 Bosnian
0.02559219 Croat_Herzegovina
0.02660140 Croat
0.02684415 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02789949 Moldovan_Centre
0.02850194 Croat_Bosnia
0.02959612 Serb_Bosnia
0.03019626 Slovenian
0.03159314 Hungarian
0.03174507 Serb_Sumadija
0.03234526 Serb_Belgrade
0.03237934 Serb
0.03342326 Montenegrin
0.03404657 Serb_WestSerbia
0.03573974 Serb_SouthSerbia
0.03617130 Serb_Croatia
0.03648924 Croat_North
0.03692407 Slovakian
0.03735436 Moldovan_South
0.03737697 Serb_Montenegro
0.03791389 Ukrainian_Lviv

Distance to: Dorkymon_dad_MyHeritage
0.01820168 Moldovan_North
0.01959956 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02147394 Moldovan_Centre
0.02245426 Bosnian
0.02473110 Croat
0.02490879 Croat_Herzegovina
0.02514813 Bosniak_Croatia
0.02601246 Croat_Dalmatia
0.02686685 Serb_Bosnia
0.02701288 Croat_Bosnia
0.02724362 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02877049 Hungarian
0.02932061 Slovenian
0.03024600 Serb_Belgrade
0.03034093 Serb
0.03038612 Montenegrin
0.03070862 Serb_Sumadija
0.03175608 Serb_WestSerbia
0.03275191 Moldovan_South
0.03293435 Croat_North
0.03375510 Serb_SouthSerbia
0.03409344 Serb_Croatia
0.03602279 Serb_Montenegro
0.03629540 Austrian
0.03709033 Romanian

Distance to: Dorkymon_Grandpa_FTDNA
0.01622945 Montenegrin
0.01642173 Serb_Belgrade
0.01684107 Serb
0.01753294 Serb_Sumadija
0.01845937 Bosniak_Croatia
0.01868562 Serb_SouthSerbia
0.01881162 Croat_Herzegovina
0.01932443 Serb_Montenegro
0.02024495 Bosniak_Sandzak
0.02057213 Moldovan_South
0.02073819 Croat_Bosnia
0.02124164 Serb_Bosnia
0.02161158 Moldovan_Centre
0.02172695 Bosnian
0.02245711 Romanian
0.02253317 Croat_Dalmatia
0.02314013 Serb_WestSerbia
0.02666126 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.02675398 Moldovan_North
0.02774072 Croat
0.02852443 Bulgarian
0.02973984 Serb_Croatia
0.03040903 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.03203296 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.03226468 Pomak_Danubian_Plain

Distance to: Dorkymon_Grandma_FTDNA
0.00973771 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.01687457 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.01873328 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.01959558 Croat_North
0.02044034 Slovenian
0.02200113 Hungarian
0.02417486 Czech
0.02427045 Slovakian
0.02539774 Cossack_Ukrainian_Dnipropetrovsk
0.02610362 Moldovan_North
0.02617427 Polish
0.02628714 Polish_Silesian
0.02851135 Russian_Belgorod
0.02882973 Polish_Wielkopolska
0.02942078 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.02956351 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.02978277 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.02997895 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.03010280 Croat_Dalmatia
0.03036909 Russian_Voronezh_North
0.03048009 Russian_RyazanMikhailov
0.03117611 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.03122348 Russian_Orel
0.03157389 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.03189248 Croat

Dušan

11-15-2025, 07:11 PM

Are the regional non-Davidski-created averages real or simulated? Cool list, I wasn't aware of it.

Distance to: Dorkymon_Merged
0.02131266 Moldovan_Centre
0.02132644 Moldovan_North
0.02428530 Bosniak_Croatia
0.02463058 Bosnian
0.02556650 Montenegrin
0.02570102 Croat_Dalmatia
0.02667416 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02685518 Croat_Herzegovina
0.02814299 Croat_Bosnia
0.02817331 Serb
0.02818156 Serb_Belgrade
0.02899426 Serb_SouthSerbia
0.03022946 Serb_Bosnia
0.03028930 Serb_Sumadija
0.03058748 Serb_Montenegro
0.03119435 Romanian
0.03128254 Serb_WestSerbia
0.03149031 Moldovan_South
0.03149595 Hungarian
0.03150209 Croat
0.03411768 Bosniak_Sandzak
0.03445455 Slovenian
0.03461029 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03479222 Austrian
0.03560246 Serb_Croatia

Distance to: Dorkymon_Brother_MyHeritage
0.02161946 Moldovan_North
0.02349956 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02371705 Moldovan_Centre
0.02477499 Croat
0.02580211 Bosnian
0.02587617 Bosniak_Croatia
0.02640444 Serb_Bosnia
0.02731675 Croat_Dalmatia
0.02768219 Croat_Herzegovina
0.02784443 Croat_Bosnia
0.02857838 Serb_Sumadija
0.02898419 Serb_Belgrade
0.02913250 Serb
0.03007943 Serb_WestSerbia
0.03054491 Montenegrin
0.03168549 Serb_SouthSerbia
0.03227974 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03232695 Moldovan_South
0.03291342 Serb_Croatia
0.03387606 Hungarian
0.03550495 Slovenian
0.03563097 Romanian
0.03570546 Serb_Montenegro
0.03872788 Croat_North
0.03890318 Bosniak_Sandzak

Distance to: Dorkymon_mom_MyHeritage
0.02279707 Bosniak_Croatia
0.02442656 Moldovan_North
0.02445760 Croat_Dalmatia
0.02466258 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02484857 Bosnian
0.02559219 Croat_Herzegovina
0.02660140 Croat
0.02684415 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02789949 Moldovan_Centre
0.02850194 Croat_Bosnia
0.02959612 Serb_Bosnia
0.03019626 Slovenian
0.03159314 Hungarian
0.03174507 Serb_Sumadija
0.03234526 Serb_Belgrade
0.03237934 Serb
0.03342326 Montenegrin
0.03404657 Serb_WestSerbia
0.03573974 Serb_SouthSerbia
0.03617130 Serb_Croatia
0.03648924 Croat_North
0.03692407 Slovakian
0.03735436 Moldovan_South
0.03737697 Serb_Montenegro
0.03791389 Ukrainian_Lviv

Distance to: Dorkymon_dad_MyHeritage
0.01820168 Moldovan_North
0.01959956 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.02147394 Moldovan_Centre
0.02245426 Bosnian
0.02473110 Croat
0.02490879 Croat_Herzegovina
0.02514813 Bosniak_Croatia
0.02601246 Croat_Dalmatia
0.02686685 Serb_Bosnia
0.02701288 Croat_Bosnia
0.02724362 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02877049 Hungarian
0.02932061 Slovenian
0.03024600 Serb_Belgrade
0.03034093 Serb
0.03038612 Montenegrin
0.03070862 Serb_Sumadija
0.03175608 Serb_WestSerbia
0.03275191 Moldovan_South
0.03293435 Croat_North
0.03375510 Serb_SouthSerbia
0.03409344 Serb_Croatia
0.03602279 Serb_Montenegro
0.03629540 Austrian
0.03709033 Romanian

Distance to: Dorkymon_Grandpa_FTDNA
0.01622945 Montenegrin
0.01642173 Serb_Belgrade
0.01684107 Serb
0.01753294 Serb_Sumadija
0.01845937 Bosniak_Croatia
0.01868562 Serb_SouthSerbia
0.01881162 Croat_Herzegovina
0.01932443 Serb_Montenegro
0.02024495 Bosniak_Sandzak
0.02057213 Moldovan_South
0.02073819 Croat_Bosnia
0.02124164 Serb_Bosnia
0.02161158 Moldovan_Centre
0.02172695 Bosnian
0.02245711 Romanian
0.02253317 Croat_Dalmatia
0.02314013 Serb_WestSerbia
0.02666126 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.02675398 Moldovan_North
0.02774072 Croat
0.02852443 Bulgarian
0.02973984 Serb_Croatia
0.03040903 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.03203296 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.03226468 Pomak_Danubian_Plain

Distance to: Dorkymon_Grandma_FTDNA
0.00973771 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.01687457 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
0.01873328 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.01959558 Croat_North
0.02044034 Slovenian
0.02200113 Hungarian
0.02417486 Czech
0.02427045 Slovakian
0.02539774 Cossack_Ukrainian_Dnipropetrovsk
0.02610362 Moldovan_North
0.02617427 Polish
0.02628714 Polish_Silesian
0.02851135 Russian_Belgorod
0.02882973 Polish_Wielkopolska
0.02942078 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.02956351 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.02978277 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.02997895 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.03010280 Croat_Dalmatia
0.03036909 Russian_Voronezh_North
0.03048009 Russian_RyazanMikhailov
0.03117611 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.03122348 Russian_Orel
0.03157389 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.03189248 Croat

Real one, from Moriopoulos G25 collection.

Beowulf

11-16-2025, 12:28 PM

Not bad for my maternal grandma:

Target: Abuela_Cristina_MH_scaled
Distance: 0.0081% / 0.00814038
80.1 Iberian
14.4 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
5.5 Moldovan_South

gixajo

11-16-2025, 01:19 PM

Using this Spanish average:

Spanish,0.1121471,0.1463662,0.0411427,-0.0014012,0.0450959,-0.002383,-0.0022952,0.0017524,0.0245581,0.0326751,-0.0032997,0.0075664,-0.0151753,-0.0129319,0.0104484,-0.0002432,-0.0037976,-0.0005869,-0.0032627,-0.0010107,0.0032148,-0.0015914,-0.0022732,-0.0026931,0.0009409

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8714% / 0.01871406
95.4 Spanish
4.6 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.01910385 Spanish
0.06681458 Moldovan_StefanVoda
0.06739063 Moldovan_South
0.07087322 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian
0.07255709 Moldovan_Centre
0.07690944 Moldovan_North
0.08058367 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine

Using Basque average:

Basque,0.1293645,0.1498015,0.0553712,0.0102901,0.0 554509,0.0017468,-0.0020655,0.0013284,0.0296857,0.0423876,-0.0062998,0.0113075,-0.0223025,-0.0173337,0.0152225,0.0008599,-0.0068036,0.002596,-0.0009397,-0.0032913,0.0080443,0.0013062,-0.007359,-0.008653,0.0017769

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.9838% / 0.01983782
73.6 Basque
20.6 Moldovan_StefanVoda
5.8 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian

With both:

Spanish,0.1121471,0.1463662,0.0411427,-0.0014012,0.0450959,-0.002383,-0.0022952,0.0017524,0.0245581,0.0326751,-0.0032997,0.0075664,-0.0151753,-0.0129319,0.0104484,-0.0002432,-0.0037976,-0.0005869,-0.0032627,-0.0010107,0.0032148,-0.0015914,-0.0022732,-0.0026931,0.0009409
Basque,0.1293645,0.1498015,0.0553712,0.0102901,0.0 554509,0.0017468,-0.0020655,0.0013284,0.0296857,0.0423876,-0.0062998,0.0113075,-0.0223025,-0.0173337,0.0152225,0.0008599,-0.0068036,0.002596,-0.0009397,-0.0032913,0.0080443,0.0013062,-0.007359,-0.008653,0.0017769

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6112% / 0.01611209
59.6 Spanish
31.2 Basque
9.2 Moldovan_South

Luke35

11-16-2025, 01:49 PM

Taking a look at how my Hungarian side is modeled with your averages:

Target: Luke_scaled
Distance: 1.3843% / 0.01384285
59.2 Luke_mom_scaled
30.0 Moldovan_North
10.8 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine

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Add Hungarian to the source:

Target: Luke_scaled
Distance: 1.3808% / 0.01380787
55.8 Luke_mom_scaled
27.4 Moldovan_North
13.0 Hungarian
2.6 Moldovan_Dniester_Ukraine
1.2 Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian

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Only Hungarian in source:

Target: Luke_scaled
Distance: 1.5086% / 0.01508649
51.4 Hungarian
48.6 Luke_mom_scaled