gothicalices ancestry results from different places

[gothicalice]

Guess my Ancestry results before I post them!

I have my 23andme results

Ancestry.com results

Myheritage.com results

Gedmatch

And probably other sites I forgot about.

Just want to see if people get close before I disclose :)

Pics of me:

https://imgur.com/a/mQ8LnoA

Happy Guessing! :p

[Lioncourt]

Baltic sea region, could be anywhere from Sweden and Germany to Finland and Russia.

[nittionia]

I remember you!! I won't spoil your ancestry results but welcome back :)

[Figaro]

Scandinavian vibes, for the most part. A good fit for northern IL, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, ha. Could easily be Polish/German as well.

[J. Ketch]

Wild stab in the dark, half English half German.

[Gannicus]

Could be a anything from Central, North, Northwest, and North east Europe.

Main guess would be Northwest Euro blend.

[black hole]

I have been to Finland and surrounds many times, I have not seen such type there. Not typical for Northeast Europe. You look very Northwestern European, a Dutch or an English precisely. More westernward, not easternward.

[gothicalice]

I remember you!! I won't spoil your ancestry results but welcome back :)

I remember you, too! :)

Thank you! This site is great.

And thank you for not spoiling it :p

[gothicalice]

Thanks for all the guesses so far everyone! They’ve all been good! Is there any particular gedmatch admixtures I should post in particular ?

[J. Ketch]

Thanks for all the guesses so far everyone! They’ve all been good! Is there any particular gedmatch admixtures I should post in particular ?
Gedmatch has fallen out of fashion with Apricity critters, but you can compare yourself to these Eurogenes K13 and K36 averages via Vahaduo if you're familiar with it.

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

K13
https://pastebin.com/1H0TwEFm
K36
https://pastebin.com/6tM7n6n5

[gothicalice]

Gedmatch has fallen out of fashion with Apricity critters, but you can compare yourself to these Eurogenes K13 and K36 averages via Vahaduo if you're familiar with it.

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

K13
https://pastebin.com/1H0TwEFm
K36
https://pastebin.com/6tM7n6n5

Good to know!

Thanks!

Looks kinda complicated. I’ll have to figure it out lol

[J. Ketch]

Good to know!

Thanks!

Looks kinda complicated. I’ll have to figure it out lol
No worries. It looks more complicated than it is, you just copy the averages list (either k13 or k36) into Source, then copy your K13 or K36 score in commas (North Atlantic, Baltic, West Med, etc) in Target. Distance shows which populations you're closest to, Single models you as mixtures of those populations.

If you can't be bothered copying your Gedmatch score manually into Vahaduo style you can use this tool:
https://allelocator.ovh/horizontaltovertical.html

Another tool from the same site that allows you to model yourself as a two-way mixture:
https://allelocator.ovh/Oracle2way.php

[Bulkster]

Could be a anything from Central, North, Northwest, and North east Europe.

Main guess would be Northwest Euro blend.

This.

[Mortimer]

My guess would be mostly a mix of british isles and German
The hooded eyes i think are German the facial expression more british

[black hole]

Non Europeans have no clue about look, that's why they place individuals in North, Northwest, Northeast, South, Southwest, Southeast Europe. It is pretty annoying.

[gothicalice]

No worries. It looks more complicated than it is, you just copy the averages list (either k13 or k36) into Source, then copy your K13 or K36 score in commas (North Atlantic, Baltic, West Med, etc) in Target. Distance shows which populations you're closest to, Single models you as mixtures of those populations.

If you can't be bothered copying your Gedmatch score manually into Vahaduo style you can use this tool:
https://allelocator.ovh/horizontaltovertical.html

Another tool from the same site that allows you to model yourself as a two-way mixture:
https://allelocator.ovh/Oracle2way.php

That actually helped a lot. Thank you. :)

I’ll post them below.

[gothicalice]

My 23andme results: https://imgur.com/a/QyI1Wic

My Ancestry.com results: https://imgur.com/a/GpiDEbX

My myheritage results: https://imgur.com/a/55vyOVL

My myheritage ancestry map from my family tree. This doesn’t reflect all my ancestors as I do have several brick walls. But this is all I’ve got.:

https://imgur.com/a/miu4CaM

What do I know of my ancestry?

I’m an American from the Midwest. 3 of my parents are from Indiana and one of them is from southern Missouri. I have mostly colonial American ancestry. The majority of them seem either English or Pennsylvania Dutch. But I also have some Irish and Scottish I do know about. And a little Swedish. On my paternal line my 3rd great grandfather was my most recent immigrant ancestor. He was 100% Manx. He came over to America about 1850. The rest came over around the 1700’s or 1600’s.

This is my parental inheritance percentages on ancestry.com. You can see here on ancestry I got the 3% Manx on my dads side:

https://imgur.com/a/AVlK9Td

I’ll do the k13 and k36 comparisons after I run them here again in a bit.

[gothicalice]

Sorry I’ve been busy and distracted, so it took me longer for this:

“Eurogenes K13 and K36 averages via Vahaduo”

K13:
North_Atlantic 47.30
Baltic 22.40
West_Med 14.80
West_Asian 6.75
East_Med 5.71
Red_Sea 0.00
South_Asian 1.16
East_Asian 0.00
Siberian 0.00
Amerindian 0.54
Oceanian 0.51
Northeast_African 0.83
Sub-Saharan 0.00

gothicalice,47.30,22.40,14.80,6.75,5.71,0.00,1.16, 0.00,0.00,0.54,0.51,0.83,0.00

K13 Distance:
2.4035 Dutch_North-Brabant
2.6518 French_Brittany
2.6860 English_East
2.7229 Flemish
3.1527 English_Southeast
3.2082 English_East-Midlands
3.5584 French_Normandy
3.6173 English_West-Midlands
3.6848 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
3.7754 Dutch_Limburg
4.0431 English_Southwest
4.1242 Dutch_South-Holland
4.4043 Cornish
4.4627 English_Northeast
5.0588 German_North_Rhine
5.0681 English_Lancashire
5.1401 Welsh_South
5.1667 Walloon
5.2587 English_Yorkshire
5.3811 Dutch_Gelderland
5.4916 Scottish_East
5.5650 German_Lower_Saxony_South
5.6175 German_Westphalia
5.6257 Scottish_North-Highlands
5.7040 British_Ulster

K13 Single:
42.4 French_Brittany
26.8 Scottish_Southwest
10.4 German_Lower_Saxony_North
10.4 German_North_Rhine
3.8 Italian_Aosta_Valley
2.4 German_Frisian
2.2 Greek_Thrace
1.6 Turkish_East-Black_Sea

K13 Multi:
41.6 French_Brittany
1.8 German_Frisian
12.0 German_Lower_Saxony_North
11.6 German_North_Rhine
0.2 Greek_Kastellorizo
1.4 Greek_Thrace
4.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
25.6 Scottish_Southwest
0.2 Spanish_Valencia
1.6 Turkish_East-Black_Sea


K36:

GothicaliceK36,
0.00,0.00,1.93,2.20,0.00,5.30,0.00,0.00,2.55,0.00,
6.94,0.00,3.06,7.63,11.70,16.03,0.00,1.40,0.00,0.0 0,
0.00,15.01,5.70,17.25,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.40,0.0 0,
0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.18,2.69

K36 Distance:
8.746 French_Brittany
8.814 Irish_Ulster
9.038 Irish_Connacht
9.188 Irish
9.247 Scottish_Highlands
9.339 Scottish_East
9.344 Scottish_Southwest
9.442 Irish_Munster
9.448 British_Ulster
9.513 Welsh
9.630 Scottish_Orkney
9.711 Irish_Leinster
9.825 Scottish
10.487 English_Southwest
10.743 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
10.863 English_Lancashire
11.059 English_East
11.061 English_West-Midlands
11.085 English
11.136 English_Southeast
11.144 English_Northeast
11.566 French_Normandy
11.762 English_Yorkshire
11.829 Cornish
11.963 English_East-Midlands

Single:
31.0 Irish_Ulster
24.4 German_Frisian
16.0 Spanish_Cantabria
13.0 Faroese
7.0 Darginian
7.0 German_Lower_Silesia
0.6 Basque_Spanish
0.6 Sardinian
0.2 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.2 Itelmen

Multi:
0.6 Basque_Spanish
7.2 Darginian
12.4 Faroese
24.6 German_Frisian
7.0 German_Lower_Silesia
31.6 Irish_Ulster
0.2 Itelmen
0.8 Sardinian
15.6 Spanish_Cantabria

[Celestia]

welcome back to the forum!


Without knowing your results, I’d assume you were Scandinavian or German.
I find it very interesting that genetically we cluster very close together, however, phenotypically we are completely opposite.

[Highwayman]

My 23andme results: https://imgur.com/a/QyI1Wic

My Ancestry.com results: https://imgur.com/a/GpiDEbX

My myheritage results: https://imgur.com/a/55vyOVL

My myheritage ancestry map from my family tree. This doesn’t reflect all my ancestors as I do have several brick walls. But this is all I’ve got.:

https://imgur.com/a/miu4CaM

What do I know of my ancestry?

I’m an American from the Midwest. 3 of my parents are from Indiana and one of them is from southern Missouri. I have mostly colonial American ancestry. The majority of them seem either English or Pennsylvania Dutch. But I also have some Irish and Scottish I do know about. And a little Swedish. On my paternal line my 3rd great grandfather was my most recent immigrant ancestor. He was 100% Manx. He came over to America about 1850. The rest came over around the 1700’s or 1600’s.

This is my parental inheritance percentages on ancestry.com. You can see here on ancestry I got the 3% Manx on my dads side:

https://imgur.com/a/AVlK9Td

I’ll do the k13 and k36 comparisons after I run them here again in a bit.



Congrats!

We could easily be third to distant cousins.

Do know how recently your family stopped speaking German?

[J. Ketch]

Sorry I’ve been busy and distracted, so it took me longer for this:

“Eurogenes K13 and K36 averages via Vahaduo”

K13:
North_Atlantic 47.30
Baltic 22.40
West_Med 14.80
West_Asian 6.75
East_Med 5.71
Red_Sea 0.00
South_Asian 1.16
East_Asian 0.00
Siberian 0.00
Amerindian 0.54
Oceanian 0.51
Northeast_African 0.83
Sub-Saharan 0.00

gothicalice,47.30,22.40,14.80,6.75,5.71,0.00,1.16, 0.00,0.00,0.54,0.51,0.83,0.00

K13 Distance:
2.4035 Dutch_North-Brabant
2.6518 French_Brittany
2.6860 English_East
2.7229 Flemish
3.1527 English_Southeast
3.2082 English_East-Midlands
3.5584 French_Normandy
3.6173 English_West-Midlands
3.6848 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
3.7754 Dutch_Limburg
4.0431 English_Southwest
4.1242 Dutch_South-Holland
4.4043 Cornish
4.4627 English_Northeast
5.0588 German_North_Rhine
5.0681 English_Lancashire
5.1401 Welsh_South
5.1667 Walloon
5.2587 English_Yorkshire
5.3811 Dutch_Gelderland
5.4916 Scottish_East
5.5650 German_Lower_Saxony_South
5.6175 German_Westphalia
5.6257 Scottish_North-Highlands
5.7040 British_Ulster

K13 Single:
42.4 French_Brittany
26.8 Scottish_Southwest
10.4 German_Lower_Saxony_North
10.4 German_North_Rhine
3.8 Italian_Aosta_Valley
2.4 German_Frisian
2.2 Greek_Thrace
1.6 Turkish_East-Black_Sea

K13 Multi:
41.6 French_Brittany
1.8 German_Frisian
12.0 German_Lower_Saxony_North
11.6 German_North_Rhine
0.2 Greek_Kastellorizo
1.4 Greek_Thrace
4.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
25.6 Scottish_Southwest
0.2 Spanish_Valencia
1.6 Turkish_East-Black_Sea


K36:

GothicaliceK36,
0.00,0.00,1.93,2.20,0.00,5.30,0.00,0.00,2.55,0.00,
6.94,0.00,3.06,7.63,11.70,16.03,0.00,1.40,0.00,0.0 0,
0.00,15.01,5.70,17.25,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.40,0.0 0,
0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.18,2.69

K36 Distance:
8.746 French_Brittany
8.814 Irish_Ulster
9.038 Irish_Connacht
9.188 Irish
9.247 Scottish_Highlands
9.339 Scottish_East
9.344 Scottish_Southwest
9.442 Irish_Munster
9.448 British_Ulster
9.513 Welsh
9.630 Scottish_Orkney
9.711 Irish_Leinster
9.825 Scottish
10.487 English_Southwest
10.743 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
10.863 English_Lancashire
11.059 English_East
11.061 English_West-Midlands
11.085 English
11.136 English_Southeast
11.144 English_Northeast
11.566 French_Normandy
11.762 English_Yorkshire
11.829 Cornish
11.963 English_East-Midlands

Single:
31.0 Irish_Ulster
24.4 German_Frisian
16.0 Spanish_Cantabria
13.0 Faroese
7.0 Darginian
7.0 German_Lower_Silesia
0.6 Basque_Spanish
0.6 Sardinian
0.2 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.2 Itelmen

Multi:
0.6 Basque_Spanish
7.2 Darginian
12.4 Faroese
24.6 German_Frisian
7.0 German_Lower_Silesia
31.6 Irish_Ulster
0.2 Itelmen
0.8 Sardinian
15.6 Spanish_Cantabria
You are a 100% match for wisteria, ring a bell? ;)

Distance to: gothicalice
0.00000000 wisteria(American)
2.11260503 Inf99Dad(American)
2.47755928 ArmatusGrandfather(German)
2.82667649 acbrasil(Brazilian)
2.84467924 Jingorex(American)
3.02458262 Oneeye(American)
3.02651615 Bostonia(American)
3.29892407 Davystayn(British)
3.36098200 Mr.G_mother(German_American)
3.51907658 Gooding(American)
3.51973010 drb234(English)
3.80688849 Dreger22310(French)
3.81259754 Skeleton_father(American)
3.83532267 Hawthorn_Grove(British)
3.85679919 Jackson_aunt(English)
3.90037178 SouthDutch7991(American)
3.94413489 Celestia(American)
3.99230510 InfamousAngel99(American)
4.03055827 Radboud(Dutch)
4.04034652 Norb(English)
4.07022112 ffoucart_father(Nth_French)
4.08117630 Pauline(English)
4.14639603 TieRed_father(French)
4.16396446 Allenson(American)
4.33816782 Senpai(American)
4.36555838 Watersater79_Dad(English)
4.49108005 CreodaMum(English)
4.53835873 Jackson(English)
4.56446054 Caismeachd(Scottish)
4.62639168 Thorns(American)

[gothicalice]

welcome back to the forum!


Without knowing your results, I’d assume you were Scandinavian or German.
I find it very interesting that genetically we cluster very close together, however, phenotypically we are completely opposite.

Thank you!

It is interesting, isn’t it! I remember you :)

[gothicalice]

Congrats!

We could easily be third to distant cousins.

Do know how recently your family stopped speaking German?

Thanks! :)

It is possible we are related, I’m sure!

Yeah. I’m not sure. It’s probably been a while since anyone has spoke German. Well besides taking it for an elective language in school, that is :p

[gothicalice]

You are a 100% match for wisteria, ring a bell? ;)

Distance to: gothicalice
0.00000000 wisteria(American)
2.11260503 Inf99Dad(American)
2.47755928 ArmatusGrandfather(German)
2.82667649 acbrasil(Brazilian)
2.84467924 Jingorex(American)
3.02458262 Oneeye(American)
3.02651615 Bostonia(American)
3.29892407 Davystayn(British)
3.36098200 Mr.G_mother(German_American)
3.51907658 Gooding(American)
3.51973010 drb234(English)
3.80688849 Dreger22310(French)
3.81259754 Skeleton_father(American)
3.83532267 Hawthorn_Grove(British)
3.85679919 Jackson_aunt(English)
3.90037178 SouthDutch7991(American)
3.94413489 Celestia(American)
3.99230510 InfamousAngel99(American)
4.03055827 Radboud(Dutch)
4.04034652 Norb(English)
4.07022112 ffoucart_father(Nth_French)
4.08117630 Pauline(English)
4.14639603 TieRed_father(French)
4.16396446 Allenson(American)
4.33816782 Senpai(American)
4.36555838 Watersater79_Dad(English)
4.49108005 CreodaMum(English)
4.53835873 Jackson(English)
4.56446054 Caismeachd(Scottish)
4.62639168 Thorns(American)

That is most definitely my old and lost account :p

I came across the name wisteria a day or two in one of my old usernames for another dna site and it clicked. :p that was my old name here!

[Highwayman]

Thanks! :)

It is possible we are related, I’m sure!

Yeah. I’m not sure. It’s probably been a while since anyone has spoke German. Well besides taking it for an elective language in school, that is :p

Well don’t be surprised if it turns out to be as recently as the early 20th century. I have a great grandfather of Pennsylvania dutch background born as far west as Nebraska that still knew the language. For many it was the world wars and the zeitgeist against hyphenated-americanism. (And other factors)