Natufian Ancestry In Modern Groups

[Bulkster]

https://www.somalispot.com/attachments/img_0408-jpeg.275790/

People with the highest Natufian or Natufian-like ancestry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouolR0eS4hE

[Bulkster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS8b_a8Vf8A

[Bulkster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPiZhhI38C8

[Gannicus]

Even more northern Europeans should be on that map of Natufian admixture from AncestralWhispers. Unless the site isn't counting the Natufian from Anatolian Neolithic Farmers.

qpAdm on some ANFs/EEFs:

144775

144776

144777

In this particular run with qpAdm I was able to admix model myself where the Natufian was pulled out of the ANF:

144778

[Bulkster]

Even more northern Europeans should be on that map of Natufian admixture from AncestralWhispers. Unless the site isn't counting the Natufian from Anatolian Neolithic Farmers.

qpAdm on some ANFs/EEFs:

144775

144776

144777

In this particular run with qpAdm I was able to admix model myself where the Natufian was pulled out of the ANF:

144778

Interesting because I thought Northern Europeans didn't have any Natufian DNA. How do you suppose it came to Northern Europe?

[Figaro]

Interesting because I thought Northern Europeans didn't have any Natufian DNA. How do you suppose it came to Northern Europe?

Ask my mtDNA haplo, lulz…

[Bulkster]

Ask my mtDNA haplo, lulz…

It's very rare in Europe if I'm not mistaken.

[Figaro]

It's very rare in Europe if I'm not mistaken.

I think it reaches 3-4% in the central/east Mediterranean…also oddly, Northeastern europe has a slight bump in prevalence of this mtdna as well, although it can be found very rarely still in the west.

I assume it’s little more than a not-so-“successful” Neolithic lineage. Except for the cases similar clades from Jews.

Not 100% sure, but I assume all Europeans N1b in general is distantly descended from Natufian cultures or at least extinct close relatives

[Opie]

According to IllustrativeDNA, mine is something like 0.4%, but I have seen Southern Italians scoring over 10%.

[Bulkster]

I think it reaches 3-4% in the central/east Mediterranean…also oddly, Northeastern europe has a slight bump in prevalence of this mtdna as well, although it can be found very rarely still in the west.

I assume it’s little more than a not-so-“successful” Neolithic lineage. Except for the cases similar clades from Jews.

I just realized that you share the haplogroup with the Natufian in the video in my second post, rofl.

[Gannicus]

Interesting because I thought Northern Europeans didn't have any Natufian DNA. How do you suppose it came to Northern Europe?

The Anatolian Neolithic farmers. And later Mediterranean movement northward. Look at my Paternal Haplo.

Also a nice TLDR from googleAI:

AI Overview
Yes, Northern Europeans have Natufian ancestry indirectly, through the Neolithic farmers who migrated from Anatolia. While the direct ancestors of Northern Europeans were not Natufians, they did inherit a significant portion of their DNA from the early farmers of Anatolia, who in turn had a genetic component that originated from or mixed with Natufian hunter-gatherers.
Neolithic farmer migration: Early farmers from Anatolia migrated into Europe around 7,000 BC, spreading north and westwards and largely replacing the pre-existing hunter-gatherer populations.
Genetic component: The Neolithic Anatolian farmer lineage is present in all modern European populations, including those in Northern Europe, but with a lower proportion compared to populations in the Mediterranean.
Natufian connection: The ancestral population for both the Anatolian and European early farmers emerged from the mixing of a Southwest Asian population with a Western Hunter-Gatherer (WHG) population after the Last Glacial Maximum.
Indirect ancestry: This means that Northern Europeans have Natufian ancestry through their Anatolian farmer ancestors, who themselves had a mixed genetic makeup from local Anatolian hunter-gatherers and other Middle Eastern groups, including Natufians.

[Opie]

Even more northern Europeans should be on that map of Natufian admixture from AncestralWhispers. Unless the site isn't counting the Natufian from Anatolian Neolithic Farmers.

qpAdm on some ANFs/EEFs:

144775

144776

144777

In this particular run with qpAdm I was able to admix model myself where the Natufian was pulled out of the ANF:

144778

In Dodecad Ancient Eurasia K6, most of ANF ancestry gets absorbed by Natufian.

[Bulkster]

The Anatolian Neolithic farmers. And later Mediterranean movement northward. Look at my Paternal Haplo.

Also a nice TLDR from googleAI:

AI Overview
Yes, Northern Europeans have Natufian ancestry indirectly, through the Neolithic farmers who migrated from Anatolia. While the direct ancestors of Northern Europeans were not Natufians, they did inherit a significant portion of their DNA from the early farmers of Anatolia, who in turn had a genetic component that originated from or mixed with Natufian hunter-gatherers.
Neolithic farmer migration: Early farmers from Anatolia migrated into Europe around 7,000 BC, spreading north and westwards and largely replacing the pre-existing hunter-gatherer populations.
Genetic component: The Neolithic Anatolian farmer lineage is present in all modern European populations, including those in Northern Europe, but with a lower proportion compared to populations in the Mediterranean.
Natufian connection: The ancestral population for both the Anatolian and European early farmers emerged from the mixing of a Southwest Asian population with a Western Hunter-Gatherer (WHG) population after the Last Glacial Maximum.
Indirect ancestry: This means that Northern Europeans have Natufian ancestry through their Anatolian farmer ancestors, who themselves had a mixed genetic makeup from local Anatolian hunter-gatherers and other Middle Eastern groups, including Natufians.

My nibba, I'm also J2a, rofl.

[Bulkster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9WjGhSBxbM

[Gannicus]

My nibba, I'm also J2a, rofl.

You should do the Big Y on FtDNA. It may be going on sale for the upcoming holidays.

144779

[Gannicus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9WjGhSBxbM

144780

Since the time of Andrei making that video, there has been a paper published on the Green Sahara that sheds some light on that Ancestral North African Lineage.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-08793-7

Ancient DNA from the Green Sahara reveals ancestral North African lineage

Abstract
Although it is one of the most arid regions today, the Sahara Desert was a green savannah during the African Humid Period (AHP) between 14,500 and 5,000 years before present, with water bodies promoting human occupation and the spread of pastoralism in the middle Holocene epoch1. DNA rarely preserves well in this region, limiting knowledge of the Sahara’s genetic history and demographic past. Here we report ancient genomic data from the Central Sahara, obtained from two approximately 7,000-year-old Pastoral Neolithic female individuals buried in the Takarkori rock shelter in southwestern Libya. The majority of Takarkori individuals’ ancestry stems from a previously unknown North African genetic lineage that diverged from sub-Saharan African lineages around the same time as present-day humans outside Africa and remained isolated throughout most of its existence. Both Takarkori individuals are closely related to ancestry first documented in 15,000-year-old foragers from Taforalt Cave, Morocco2, associated with the Iberomaurusian lithic industry and predating the AHP. Takarkori and Iberomaurusian-associated individuals are equally distantly related to sub-Saharan lineages, suggesting limited gene flow from sub-Saharan to Northern Africa during the AHP. In contrast to Taforalt individuals, who have half the Neanderthal admixture of non-Africans, Takarkori shows ten times less Neanderthal ancestry than Levantine farmers, yet significantly more than contemporary sub-Saharan genomes. Our findings suggest that pastoralism spread through cultural diffusion into a deeply divergent, isolated North African lineage that had probably been widespread in Northern Africa during the late Pleistocene epoch.

[Bulkster]

144780

Since the time of Andrei making that video, there has been a paper published on the Green Sahara that sheds some light on that Ancestral North African Lineage.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-08793-7

Ancient DNA from the Green Sahara reveals ancestral North African lineage

Abstract
Although it is one of the most arid regions today, the Sahara Desert was a green savannah during the African Humid Period (AHP) between 14,500 and 5,000 years before present, with water bodies promoting human occupation and the spread of pastoralism in the middle Holocene epoch1. DNA rarely preserves well in this region, limiting knowledge of the Sahara’s genetic history and demographic past. Here we report ancient genomic data from the Central Sahara, obtained from two approximately 7,000-year-old Pastoral Neolithic female individuals buried in the Takarkori rock shelter in southwestern Libya. The majority of Takarkori individuals’ ancestry stems from a previously unknown North African genetic lineage that diverged from sub-Saharan African lineages around the same time as present-day humans outside Africa and remained isolated throughout most of its existence. Both Takarkori individuals are closely related to ancestry first documented in 15,000-year-old foragers from Taforalt Cave, Morocco2, associated with the Iberomaurusian lithic industry and predating the AHP. Takarkori and Iberomaurusian-associated individuals are equally distantly related to sub-Saharan lineages, suggesting limited gene flow from sub-Saharan to Northern Africa during the AHP. In contrast to Taforalt individuals, who have half the Neanderthal admixture of non-Africans, Takarkori shows ten times less Neanderthal ancestry than Levantine farmers, yet significantly more than contemporary sub-Saharan genomes. Our findings suggest that pastoralism spread through cultural diffusion into a deeply divergent, isolated North African lineage that had probably been widespread in Northern Africa during the late Pleistocene epoch.

I've heard that basal Eurasians inhabited much of the middle east and north Africa before the arrival of west Eurasians.

Basal Eurasians may have originated in a region stretching from North Africa to the Middle East, before admixing with West-Eurasian populations.[5][6][7][8][9] North Africa has been described as a strong candidate for the location of the emergence of Basal Eurasians by Loosdrecht et al. in 2018.[10]

Ferreira et al. in 2021 argued for a point of origin for Basal Eurasians into the Middle East, specifically in the Persian Gulf region on the Arab peninsula. As Basal Eurasians had low levels of Neanderthal ancestry, genetic and archaeological evidence for interactions between modern humans and Neanderthals may allow certain areas, such as the Levant, to be ruled out as possible sources for Basal Eurasians. In other areas, such as southern Southwest Asia, there is currently no evidence for an overlap between modern human and Neanderthal populations.[8] Vallini et al. 2024 suggests a homeland for Basal Eurasians in the Arabian Peninsula, with a 'Common Eurasian Hub' in the Iranian Plateau, where they diverged into 'Ancient West Eurasians' and 'Ancient East Eurasians'.[2]

Among modern populations, Basal-like ancestry peaks among Arabs (such as Qataris) at c. 45%, and among Iranian populations at c. 35%, and is also found in significant amounts among modern Northern Africans, in accordance with the high affinity towards the 'Arabian branch' of Eurasian diversity, which expanded into Northern and Northeastern Africa between 30 and 15 thousand years ago. Modern populations of the Levant derive between 35-38% ancestry from Basal Eurasians, modern Anatolians and populations from the Caucasus derive between 25-30% ancestry from Basal Eurasians, and modern Europeans derive around or less than 20% ancestry from Basal Eurasians.[8] Modern Bedouins and Yemenis are considered to represent direct descendants of the Basal Eurasians, carrying the highest amount of indigenous 'Arabian ancestry', and being basal to all modern Eurasian populations without displaying higher 'African-associated' admixture, and thus "are among the best genetic representatives of the autochthonous population on the Arabian Peninsula".[18]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_Eurasian

[Gannicus]

Austria EN LBK admix using Andrei's rights

144798

This group of EEFs with the references used score 16% Natufian admixture