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aura254
11-30-2025, 10:45 PM
I found this on Reddit.

https://i.imgur.com/z2vPRD4.jpeg

Link to the topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/1lngxe2/black_african_ancestry_in_middle_east_east_africa/

There are Luo peoples in the list - Anuak :)

chinshen
12-01-2025, 12:21 AM
I found this on Reddit.

https://i.imgur.com/z2vPRD4.jpeg

Link to the topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/1lngxe2/black_african_ancestry_in_middle_east_east_africa/

There are Luo peoples in the list - Anuak :)


It is probably higher than that.

Bulkster
12-04-2025, 08:00 AM
I found this on Reddit.

https://i.imgur.com/z2vPRD4.jpeg

Link to the topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/1lngxe2/black_african_ancestry_in_middle_east_east_africa/

There are Luo peoples in the list - Anuak :)

For Yemenis, the average SSA ancestry is around 20%, so it's much higher than what's in the graph. For Palestinians though it's accurate. My SSA admixture stems from East African/Nilotic sources.

Dardanos
12-04-2025, 08:10 AM
For Yemenis, the average SSA ancestry is around 20%, so it's much higher than what's in the graph. For Palestinians though it's accurate. My SSA admixture stems from East African/Nilotic sources.

Loool, who made this? Palestinians have more SSA than Yemeni Arabs hahaha.

Bulkster
12-04-2025, 08:11 AM
Loool, who made this? Palestinians have more SSA than Yemeni Arabs hahaha.

It's strange. The average SSA admixture in Palestinians is between 4 to 6% in G25 while Yemenis are around 20% on average. The graph isn't accurate, yeah.

Dardanos
12-04-2025, 08:16 AM
It's strange. The average SSA admixture in Palestinians is between 4 to 6% in G25 while Yemenis are around 20% on average. The graph isn't accurate, yeah.

I’ve seen that Arabs from the peninsula, if they have high SSA, develop a pseudo-Somali look.
I’ve never seen a Palestinian looking African, even those with above-average admixture. I see threads like this on Reddit sometimes.

So whoever made this was either trying to push an agenda or simply ignorant.

Bulkster
12-04-2025, 08:20 AM
I’ve seen that Arabs from the peninsula, if they have high SSA, develop a pseudo-Somali look.
I’ve never seen a Palestinian looking African, even those with above-average admixture. I see threads like this on Reddit sometimes.

So whoever made this was either trying to push an agenda or simply ignorant.

I don't think it's an agenda per say, but yeah, the graph isn't accurate at all. My SSA ancestry is around 3%, and it's Nilotic-like or East African which makes sense.

aura254
12-04-2025, 05:06 PM
I think coastal Yemenis might even be over 20%.

Bulkster
12-04-2025, 05:16 PM
I think coastal Yemenis might even be over 20%.

It is. Google AI:

The black admixture in Yemenis is primarily due to recent and ancient gene flow from East Africa, largely through the slave trade and earlier migrations. DNA studies show significant African matrilineal influence and more recent gene flow, with some individuals having up to 20% of their genetic ancestry from Africa. This historical connection to East Africa has contributed to the diversity within the Yemeni population, with groups like the Akhdam specifically having origins traced to the slave trade.
Historical and genetic influences
East African slave trade: For centuries, Yemen was a major hub in the Red Sea slave trade, with many enslaved people brought from East Africa. This history has left a genetic legacy, particularly in the matrilineal (mother-line) DNA, with studies finding significant African-specific mitochondrial DNA haplogroups.
Recent gene flow: Genetic analysis indicates a substantial gene flow event from East Africa into Yemen that occurred around 750 years ago, likely reflecting the impact of the slave trade.
Earlier migrations: There is also evidence of older, more ancient gene flow from Africa and other neighboring regions like the Levant, which has contributed to the broader genetic makeup of the Yemeni population.
Regional differences: The extent of African admixture varies across Yemen. Coastal areas show a greater genetic impact, while inland populations like those in Ma'rib appear more genetically isolated from this African gene flow, potentially reflecting the population's ancestry before the more recent migrations.
Specific groups: The Afro-Yemeni community includes groups like the Akhdam, whose origins are directly traced to the East African slave trade.

Zanzibar
12-04-2025, 08:48 PM
I think coastal Yemenis might even be over 20%.

Yup.

Official G25 coords only have Yemenis from the interior, isolated areas though.

There's a severe lack of coastal Yemenis in Eurogenes G25 spreadsheets.

Petalpusher
12-04-2025, 09:17 PM
Yemenis have a big range, but all that has been known for like 10 years since the Lazaridis K6 gold standard

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Oa3bBts6e3M/Ur6VH_81tpI/AAAAAAAAAUI/JGoPs1UmWyA/s1600/Lazaridis2014_EDF3_K6.png


Anyway here the calculator is adding up different types of SSA


Distance to: Petalpusher
0.18543224 Eurasian:Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya _RUS_Samara
0.18912926 Eurasian:Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
0.18912926 Eurasian:Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
0.27641133 Eurasian:Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
0.33107565 Eurasian:West_Europe_Hunter-Gatherer_WHG
0.36272893 Eurasian:West_Siberia_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Tyumen_HG
0.40928414 Eurasian:Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_So khta_BA2:I8728
0.46830101 Eurasian:Southeast_Asia_Hoabinhian_Hunter-Gatherer_LAO_Hoabinhian
0.55375340 Eurasian:Japan_Jomon_Hunter-Gatherer_JPN_Jomon
0.59889924 Eurasian:Holocene_Beringian_RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven
0.59925119 Eurasian:Southeast_Asia_Neolithic_Farmer_VNM_N
0.60158862 Eurasian:Tibetan_Plateau_Late_Neolithic_NPL_Chokho pani_2700BP
0.60693027 Eurasian:South_China_Neolithic_Farmer_CHN_Liangdao 2_N
0.63126626 Eurasian:North_China_Neolithic_Farmer_CHN_Boshan_N
0.63429348 Eurasian:Amur_Basin_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.64929342 Eurasian:Siberia_Uralic-like_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
0.68698400 Eurasian:Amerindian_BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.75057530 Black_African:Dinka_(n=33)
0.77923352 Black_African:West_Africa-Bantu_Farmer_COG_Kindoki_230BP
0.79003132 Black_African:Yoruba_Nigeria_(n=14)
0.79312690 Black_African:West_Africa_Hunter-Gatherer_CMR_Shum_Laka_3000BP
0.92005655 Black_African:South_Africa_Hunter-Gatherer_ZAF_2100BP

Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 5.1523% / 0.05152257
100.0 Eurasian

Sosa
12-04-2025, 10:02 PM
I think coastal Yemenis might even be over 20%.

Maybe ...mostly they are no of african origin,but more than 10% of yemen population is akhdan (slave descendent )or somali