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Kenshiro
12-03-2025, 01:11 PM
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Repent
12-03-2025, 01:15 PM
Cool, how did you do it and where did you do it?
Kenshiro
12-03-2025, 01:17 PM
Cool, how did you do it and where did you do it?
A guy on Reddit did this to me, I sent him my raw data etc. I don't know how make this and don't have PC
AnthrogenicaRefugee
12-03-2025, 01:19 PM
Doesn't work for you
Repent
12-03-2025, 01:21 PM
A guy on Reddit did this to me, I sent him my raw data etc. I don't know how make this and don't have PC
Got it. Thank you.
Kenshiro
12-03-2025, 01:21 PM
Doesn't work for you
Yeah, i have a sort of Bad coverage, i don't know how work this
ScandinavianCelt
12-03-2025, 03:39 PM
To compare with those 5 groups you got, the G25 of those 5 gives me this:
Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 3.6807% / 0.03680693
53.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
36.0 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
10.4 Luxembourg_Loschbour.DG
And if I take off the Yamnaya, but add Wezmeh, Kotias, and MA1:
Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 7.6516% / 0.07651571
42.2 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
25.6 Russia_MA1_HG.SG
17.8 Luxembourg_Loschbour.DG
14.4 Georgia_Kotias.SG:KK1_noUDG.SG
Try your G25 against these with and without Yamnaya:
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.010936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
Iran_TepeAbdulHosein_N.SG,0.0421147,0.0639783,-0.1541163,0.0010767,-0.119407,0.0212883,0.0104187,-0.0023077,-0.0809913,-0.057283,-0.002436,-0.002148,0.0040137,-0.0096337,0.0314873,0.0555107,-0.0067363,0.0061233,0.0131143,-0.0351837,0.0062807,-0.0250607,-0.0085453,-0.0374753,0.019958
Luxembourg_Loschbour.DG,0.130897,0.109677,0.203645 ,0.198,0.162492,0.059125,0.015041,0.038075,0.10021 7,0.016219,-0.015427,-0.017235,0.019921,-0.001239,0.061346,0.07067,0.002608,0.007348,-0.008925,0.065406,0.117543,0.010387,-0.049422,-0.173639,0.019519
Israel_Natufian,0.020488,0.131003,-0.039221,-0.141475,0.027082,-0.0753,-0.017861,-0.025845,0.102671,-0.004556,0.030042,-0.020682,0.069573,-0.000963,0.020222,0.028772,-0.012647,0.008868,-0.021117,0.04252,-0.004243,-0.002597,-0.011955,-0.006386,0.011735
Russia_MA1_HG.SG,0.079676,-0.023357,0.037335,0.186695,-0.070475,0.046575,-0.047472,-0.054921,-0.020452,-0.06925,0.028743,-0.010041,0.015907,-0.044865,0.017372,0.023071,-0.007302,0.00228,-0.00352,-0.00025,-0.028699,0.00371,0.011832,-0.006989,-0.002155
Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG:WC1_noUDG.SG,0.037562,0.072103,-0.165556,-0.016473,-0.11756,0.01506,0.017861,-0.003231,-0.071583,-0.046835,0.003085,-0.003147,0.00669,0.000688,0.022122,0.053036,-0.011735,0.001014,0.014581,-0.035267,0.009358,-0.023741,-0.006655,-0.032896,0.019998
Georgia_Kotias.SG:KK1_noUDG.SG,0.08992,0.103584,-0.088246,-0.004845,-0.089555,0.020359,0.023266,-0.001154,-0.130486,-0.080002,-0.007632,0.024878,-0.052626,0.007707,0.026465,-0.0297,0.027772,-0.010769,-0.023757,0.037518,0.030945,-0.006677,0.0053,-0.020846,0.001557
drb234
12-03-2025, 03:51 PM
North Italian?
Kenshiro
12-03-2025, 03:51 PM
To compare with those 5 groups you got, the G25 of those 5 gives me this:
Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 3.6807% / 0.03680693
53.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
36.0 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
10.4 Luxembourg_Loschbour.DG
And if I take off the Yamnaya, but add Wezmeh, Kotias, and MA1:
Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 7.6516% / 0.07651571
42.2 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
25.6 Russia_MA1_HG.SG
17.8 Luxembourg_Loschbour.DG
14.4 Georgia_Kotias.SG:KK1_noUDG.SG
Try your G25 against these with and without Yamnaya:
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.010936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
Iran_TepeAbdulHosein_N.SG,0.0421147,0.0639783,-0.1541163,0.0010767,-0.119407,0.0212883,0.0104187,-0.0023077,-0.0809913,-0.057283,-0.002436,-0.002148,0.0040137,-0.0096337,0.0314873,0.0555107,-0.0067363,0.0061233,0.0131143,-0.0351837,0.0062807,-0.0250607,-0.0085453,-0.0374753,0.019958
Luxembourg_Loschbour.DG,0.130897,0.109677,0.203645 ,0.198,0.162492,0.059125,0.015041,0.038075,0.10021 7,0.016219,-0.015427,-0.017235,0.019921,-0.001239,0.061346,0.07067,0.002608,0.007348,-0.008925,0.065406,0.117543,0.010387,-0.049422,-0.173639,0.019519
Israel_Natufian,0.020488,0.131003,-0.039221,-0.141475,0.027082,-0.0753,-0.017861,-0.025845,0.102671,-0.004556,0.030042,-0.020682,0.069573,-0.000963,0.020222,0.028772,-0.012647,0.008868,-0.021117,0.04252,-0.004243,-0.002597,-0.011955,-0.006386,0.011735
Russia_MA1_HG.SG,0.079676,-0.023357,0.037335,0.186695,-0.070475,0.046575,-0.047472,-0.054921,-0.020452,-0.06925,0.028743,-0.010041,0.015907,-0.044865,0.017372,0.023071,-0.007302,0.00228,-0.00352,-0.00025,-0.028699,0.00371,0.011832,-0.006989,-0.002155
Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG:WC1_noUDG.SG,0.037562,0.072103,-0.165556,-0.016473,-0.11756,0.01506,0.017861,-0.003231,-0.071583,-0.046835,0.003085,-0.003147,0.00669,0.000688,0.022122,0.053036,-0.011735,0.001014,0.014581,-0.035267,0.009358,-0.023741,-0.006655,-0.032896,0.019998
Georgia_Kotias.SG:KK1_noUDG.SG,0.08992,0.103584,-0.088246,-0.004845,-0.089555,0.020359,0.023266,-0.001154,-0.130486,-0.080002,-0.007632,0.024878,-0.052626,0.007707,0.026465,-0.0297,0.027772,-0.010769,-0.023757,0.037518,0.030945,-0.006677,0.0053,-0.020846,0.001557
Cool
With Yamnaya
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 2.0444% / 0.02044382
58.6 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
29.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
6.2 Georgia_Kotias.SG
4.0 Iran_TepeAbdulHosein_N.SG
1.6 Russia_MA1_HG.SG
And Without
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 3.3689% / 0.03368861
61.2 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
19.0 Georgia_Kotias.SG
16.4 Russia_MA1_HG.SG
3.4 Luxembourg_Loschbour.DG
Kenshiro
12-03-2025, 03:52 PM
North Italian?
South Italy, Gargano promontory, North East Apulia
drb234
12-03-2025, 03:56 PM
South Italy, Gargano promontory, North East Apulia
I didn't know South Italians had that much Steppe
Kenshiro
12-03-2025, 04:02 PM
I didn't know South Italians had that much Steppe
With G25
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 2.1073% / 0.02107274
39.0 TUR_Barcin_N
32.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
20.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
3.8 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
2.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.0 WHG
0.8 Han
0.4 MAR_Taforalt
My indo-European look different than North Italy, look more direct Catacomb/Proto-Indo Iranian in average
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 1.7887% / 0.01788677
57.8 ANF
35.0 Moldova_MBA_Catacomb_(n=2)
3.6 IRAN
3.2 CHG
0.4 CHINA
Seems not very uncommon in Apulia, the guy who did it to me is from Taranto and had 29,4% Yamnaya
Kenshiro
12-03-2025, 04:12 PM
Cool
With Yamnaya
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 2.0444% / 0.02044382
58.6 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
29.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
6.2 Georgia_Kotias.SG
4.0 Iran_TepeAbdulHosein_N.SG
1.6 Russia_MA1_HG.SG
And Without
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 3.3689% / 0.03368861
61.2 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
19.0 Georgia_Kotias.SG
16.4 Russia_MA1_HG.SG
3.4 Luxembourg_Loschbour.DG
With only that 5
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 2.2058% / 0.02205754
58.6 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
33.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
8.0 Iran_TepeAbdulHosein_N.SG
With G25
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 2.1073% / 0.02107274
39.0 TUR_Barcin_N
32.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
20.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
3.8 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
2.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.0 WHG
0.8 Han
0.4 MAR_Taforalt
My indo-European look different than North Italy, look more direct Catacomb/Proto-Indo Iranian in average
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 1.7887% / 0.01788677
57.8 ANF
35.0 Moldova_MBA_Catacomb_(n=2)
3.6 IRAN
3.2 CHG
0.4 CHINA
Seems not very uncommon in Apulia, the guy who did it to me is from Taranto and had 29,4% Yamnaya
Is your Steppe well above average for a southern Italian?
Kenshiro
12-03-2025, 04:31 PM
Is your Steppe well above average for a southern Italian?
Yes, the average have less Steppe, i'm a little bit north shifted i think
Haak et al 2015
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My area of origin is the Yellow area of Italy
drb234
12-03-2025, 04:48 PM
Yes, the average have less Steppe, i'm a little bit north shifted i think
Haak et al 2015
144945
My area of origin is the Yellow area of Italy
What are your closest populations on G25?
Kenshiro
12-03-2025, 04:51 PM
What are your closest populations on G25?
Distance to: Kenshiro_Scaled
0.02223552 South_East_Europe:Greek_Central_Greece
0.02706126 North_&_Central_Italy:Italian_Umbria_(Umbrian)
0.02838112 South_East_Europe:Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace_ (Peloponnesian_Profile)
0.02855686 South_East_Europe:Greek_Peloponnese_Arcadia
0.02870808 North_&_Central_Italy:Italian_Marche_(Marchigiano)
0.02873853 Central_Med:Italian_Abruzzo_(Abruzzese)
0.02908926 Central_Med:Italian_Apulia_(Apulian)
0.02916224 South_East_Europe:Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02958143 South_East_Europe:Greek_Thessaly
0.03012867 East_Med:Greek_Smyrna
0.03017985 South_East_Europe:Albanian
0.03047736 East_Med:Greek_Smyrna_(Balkan_Greek_Profile)
0.03054128 North_&_Central_Italy:Italian_Tuscany_(Tuscan)
0.03056546 South_East_Europe:Greek_Eastern_Rumelia
0.03065635 South_East_Europe:Greek_Peloponnese_Elis
0.03132045 South_East_Europe:Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.03180857 Central_Med:Italian_Lazio_(Lazian)
0.03207680 Central_Med:Italian_Basilicata_(Lucanian)
0.03275973 South_East_Europe:Greek_Peloponnese_Laconia_Sparta _Municipality
0.03297930 East_Med:Greek_Phokaia
0.03534443 South_East_Europe:Greek_Peloponnese_Argolis
0.03539453 North_&_Central_Italy:Italian_Piedmont_Val_Borbera_(Ligur ian)
0.03541564 South_East_Europe:Greek_Peloponnese_Laconia_Monemv asia_Municipality
0.03635563 Central_Med:Sicilian_West
0.03678288 North_&_Central_Italy:Swiss_Italian
Kenshiro
12-03-2025, 04:56 PM
Distance to: Kenshiro_Scaled
0.02223552 South_East_Europe:Greek_Central_Greece
0.02706126 North_&_Central_Italy:Italian_Umbria_(Umbrian)
0.02838112 South_East_Europe:Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace_ (Peloponnesian_Profile)
0.02855686 South_East_Europe:Greek_Peloponnese_Arcadia
0.02870808 North_&_Central_Italy:Italian_Marche_(Marchigiano)
0.02873853 Central_Med:Italian_Abruzzo_(Abruzzese)
0.02908926 Central_Med:Italian_Apulia_(Apulian)
0.02916224 South_East_Europe:Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02958143 South_East_Europe:Greek_Thessaly
0.03012867 East_Med:Greek_Smyrna
0.03017985 South_East_Europe:Albanian
0.03047736 East_Med:Greek_Smyrna_(Balkan_Greek_Profile)
0.03054128 North_&_Central_Italy:Italian_Tuscany_(Tuscan)
0.03056546 South_East_Europe:Greek_Eastern_Rumelia
0.03065635 South_East_Europe:Greek_Peloponnese_Elis
0.03132045 South_East_Europe:Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.03180857 Central_Med:Italian_Lazio_(Lazian)
0.03207680 Central_Med:Italian_Basilicata_(Lucanian)
0.03275973 South_East_Europe:Greek_Peloponnese_Laconia_Sparta _Municipality
0.03297930 East_Med:Greek_Phokaia
0.03534443 South_East_Europe:Greek_Peloponnese_Argolis
0.03539453 North_&_Central_Italy:Italian_Piedmont_Val_Borbera_(Ligur ian)
0.03541564 South_East_Europe:Greek_Peloponnese_Laconia_Monemv asia_Municipality
0.03635563 Central_Med:Sicilian_West
0.03678288 North_&_Central_Italy:Swiss_Italian
With only Italians
Distance to: Kenshiro_Scaled
0.02510592 Italian_Molise_(Molisan)_(n=2)
0.02697354 Italian_Umbria_(Umbrian)_(n=14)
0.02766365 Italian_Marche_(Marchigiano)_(n=18)
0.02873853 Italian_Abruzzo_(Abruzzese)_(n=19)
0.02896167 Italian_Apulia_(Apulian)_(n=228)
0.02937552 Italian_Tuscany_(Tuscan)_(n=23)
0.03147689 Italian_Lazio_(Lazian)_(n=5)
0.03209067 Italian_Basilicata_(Lucanian)_(n=10)
0.03230679 Italian_Marche_Ascoli_Piceno_(Abruzzese)_(n=2)
0.03300142 Italian_Emilia_(Emilian)_(n=8)
0.03539453 Italian_Piedmont_Val_Borbera_(Ligurian)_(n=10)
0.03669664 Italian_Calabria_(Cosentian)_(n=3)
0.03708300 Italian_Campania_(Campanian)_(n=14)
0.03832737 Italian_Campania_Naples_(Campanian)_(n=13)
0.03837916 Italian_Carloforte_(Ligurian)_(n=25)
0.03858630 Italian_Friuli_Timau_(Bavarian)_o_(n=1)
0.04067078 Italian_Campania_Salerno_(Campanian)_(n=1)
0.04207996 Italian_Lombardy_(Lombard)_(n=10)
0.04293037 Italian_Tuscany_Lunigiana_(Emilian)_(n=1)
0.04541318 Italian_Calabria_(Calabrese)_(n=4)
0.04563066 Italian_Veneto_(Venetian)_(n=21)
0.04592969 Italian_Piedmont_(Piedmontese)_(n=2)
0.04622320 Italian_Liguria_(Ligurian)_(n=1)
0.04661949 Italian_Lombardy_Bergamo_(Lombard)_(n=6)
0.04720725 Italian_Calabria_Reggio_Calabria_(Calabrese)_(n=9)
0.05032403 Italian_Friuli_(Friulian)_(n=18)
0.05085599 Italian_Piedmont_Domodossola_(Lombard)_(n=1)
0.05147974 Italian_Trentino_(n=7)
0.05437776 Italian_Campania_Benevento_(Campanian)_(n=1)
0.05508918 Italian_Trentino_(Trentino_or_Venetian)_(n=1)
0.05721184 Italian_Friuli_Sauris_(Bavarian)_(n=11)
0.05766058 Italian_Friuli_Timau_(Bavarian)_(n=31)
0.05854226 Italian_Veneto_Lessinia_(Cimbrian)_(n=36)
0.05920818 Italian_Piedmont_Cuneo_(Occitan_or_Piedmontese)_(n =1)
0.06196640 Italian_Trentino_(Trentino_or_Ladin)_(n=1)
0.06290388 Italian_Aosta_Valley_(Valdotain)_(n=24)
0.06349073 Italian_Friuli_Sappada_(Bavarian)_(n=27)
Gannicus
12-03-2025, 05:15 PM
Doesn't work for you
What are you referring to? The Z-score for Natufian?
Other than that, the p-value is over 3x 0.05. And Chi squared is low too.
Kenshiro
12-03-2025, 05:23 PM
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