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tk'es

12-13-2025, 11:59 AM

European groups

Celto-Romance: French
Celto-Germanic: English
Germanic: German
Romance: Italian
Balto-Slavic: Russian

obtain it from >

https://sharetext.io/7c9b9f21

https://isharetext.com/p/yz6g9m6g

https://filebin.net/0ykyhyo8zdiwv9e0/European%20groups.txt

then use this (https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/) or this (https://promotopic.com/calculator/vahd.html)

ADD DIST COL - either 0.25X or 0.5X

for non-euros@ please insert your non-euro coords into the list and calculate your admixture in order to get a correct output

Gannicus

12-13-2025, 12:27 PM

Subbed. I’ll try this later today.

Repent

12-13-2025, 01:49 PM

European groups

Celto-Romance: French
Celto-Germanic: English
Germanic: German
Romance: Italian
Balto-Slavic: Russian

obtain it from > https://limewire.com/?referrer=pq7i8xx7p2

then use this (https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/) or this (https://promotopic.com/calculator/vahd.html)

ADD DIST COL - either 0.25X or 0.5X

for non-euros@ please insert your non-euro coords into the list and calculate your admixture in order to get a correct output

I do not see any file to download by the limewire link.

gixajo

12-13-2025, 02:01 PM

Better copy and paste here the sources, we cannot open any file there...

JerryS.

12-13-2025, 02:08 PM

No source shown.

tk'es

12-13-2025, 02:19 PM

I do not see any file to download by the limewire link.

No source shown.

Better copy and paste here the sources, we cannot open any file there...

the content that i have entered in this thread is too long

try again this

https://filebin.net/0ykyhyo8zdiwv9e0/European%20groups.txt

or this

https://isharetext.com/p/yz6g9m6g

or this

https://sharetext.io/7c9b9f21

Vessna

12-13-2025, 02:25 PM

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 1.0913% / 0.01091260
46.2 Russian_Smolensk
36.0 Russian_Tver
11.2 Russian_Kaluga
3.2 Russian_Ryazan
1.8 Russian_Orel
1.6 German_East

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 1.0927% / 0.01092726 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.6 Russian_Smolensk
34.6 Russian_Tver
11.2 Russian_Kaluga
4.0 Russian_Ryazan
2.6 Russian_Orel

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 1.1256% / 0.01125636 | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.8 Russian_Smolensk
29.8 Russian_Tver
8.8 Russian_Orel
8.6 Russian_Kaluga

gixajo

12-13-2025, 02:29 PM

I don't want to be French. Why are you such a bad person?

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.2993% / 0.01299349 | ADC: 0.5x RC
29.0 French_Corsica
24.4 French_Bearn
14.6 French_Chalosse
10.6 French_Bigorre
8.4 French_Occitanie
7.8 Swiss_French
5.2 French_South

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.02513818 French_Auvergne:C_21
0.02563725 French_Chalosse:1352
0.02591149 French_Occitanie:T_90
0.02717067 French_Occitanie:T_84
0.02748568 French_Corsica:CorsicaS00708
0.02803937 French_Bearn:1704
0.02824305 French_Chalosse:1299
0.02839187 French_Bearn:1689
0.02840994 French_Auvergne:C_35
0.02863796 French_Occitanie:T_57
0.02876593 French_Occitanie:T_29
0.02890366 French_Occitanie:T_46
0.02891758 French_Bigorre:1112
0.02892153 French_Bearn:1698
0.02934104 French_Bigorre:3057
0.02934881 French_South:SouthFrench3068
0.02936111 French_Bigorre:3073
0.02945879 French_South:SouthFrench3947
0.02951177 French_South:SouthFrench1112
0.02980610 French_Provence:S_20
0.02996694 French_Bearn:1858
0.03029567 French_South:SouthFrench1323
0.03036251 French_Chalosse:1323
0.03068697 French_Bearn:2595
0.03079911 French_Occitanie:T_124

2 WAY

0.017 gixajo_scaled = 55% French_Bearn:1689 + 45% French_Corsica:corsica11908
0.017 gixajo_scaled = 56% French_Chalosse:1299 + 44% French_Corsica:corsica11908
0.017 gixajo_scaled = 52% French_Corsica:CorsicaS00708 + 48% French_Occitanie:T_57
0.017 gixajo_scaled = 58% French_Bearn:1906 + 42% Italian_Veneto:ALP249
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 53% French_Bearn:1689 + 47% Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige:ALP259
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 58% French_Bearn:1689 + 42% Swiss_French:Swiss_French4
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 55% French_Provence:S_20 + 45% French_Bearn:1906
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 57% French_Bearn:1689 + 43% Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta6
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 67% French_Bearn:1689 + 33% Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta7
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 69% French_Occitanie:T_57 + 31% French_Corsica:CorsicaS03308
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 78% French_Occitanie:T_57 + 22% Italian_Campania:ALP374
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 59% French_Bearn:1689 + 41% French_Provence:provance2508
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 67% French_Occitanie:T_18 + 33% Italian_Tuscany:PG739
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 59% French_Bearn:1689 + 41% Italian_Veneto:Alp100
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 62% French_Occitanie:T_57 + 38% Italian_Veneto:KF1800751
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 64% French_Bearn:1689 + 36% Italian_Bergamo:HGDP01152
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 71% French_Occitanie:T_57 + 29% French_Corsica:Corsica29708
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 71% French_Occitanie:T_57 + 29% French_Corsica:Corsica19508
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 65% French_Bigorre:3073 + 35% German:GRC10044063_German29
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 55% French_Occitanie:T_90 + 45% French_Bigorre:3073
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 61% French_Chalosse:2325 + 39% Italian_Piedmont:ALP68
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 56% French_Bearn:1836 + 44% Italian_Veneto:ALP249
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 66% French_Occitanie:T_18 + 34% Italian_Emilia:ALP278
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 56% French_South:SouthFrench4018 + 44% Italian_Veneto:ALP249
0.018 gixajo_scaled = 58% French_Occitanie:T_18 + 42% Italian_Veneto:KF1803109

celticdragongod

12-13-2025, 02:34 PM

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01845902 English_Cornwall:HG00160
0.02004115 English_Cornwall:HG00259
0.02085269 English:English2
0.02301793 English_Cornwall:HG00243
0.02340082 English_Cornwall:HG00232
0.02406026 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_23
0.02477385 English_Cornwall:HG00239
0.02479766 English:HG01791
0.02496879 English:English3
0.02505740 English_Cornwall:HG00252
0.02522477 German_Hamburg:GSM1031513
0.02523808 English_Cornwall:HG00261
0.02582965 English:HG02215
0.02616731 French_Brittany:French24090
0.02623970 German:GRC10044052_German16
0.02639545 English_Cornwall:HG00255
0.02650662 French_Brittany:French24400
0.02658023 English:English1
0.02689230 English_Cornwall:HG00264
0.02784367 English:England8
0.02817249 English_Cornwall:HG00253
0.02831150 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_82
0.02858005 German:German24
0.02865017 English:England11
0.02875024 English:HG01790

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.0113% / 0.01131632
51.5 English_Cornwall
32.7 German
9.8 English
4.5 French_Brittany
1.3 Russian_Leshukonsky
0.2 German_Hamburg

353,220 models (78 ms):
0.015 CDG_scaled = 65% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 35% English_Cornwall:HG00252
0.015 CDG_scaled = 77% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 23% German:German45
0.015 CDG_scaled = 78% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 22% German:German35
0.015 CDG_scaled = 71% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 29% German:German27
0.015 CDG_scaled = 72% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 28% German:German25
0.015 CDG_scaled = 75% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 25% German:German35
0.015 CDG_scaled = 80% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 20% German_Erlangen:GSM1658667
0.016 CDG_scaled = 77% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 23% German_Erlangen:GSM1658640
0.016 CDG_scaled = 64% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 36% English_Cornwall:HG00232
0.016 CDG_scaled = 67% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 33% English_Cornwall:HG00261
0.016 CDG_scaled = 67% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 33% English_Cornwall:HG00239
0.016 CDG_scaled = 69% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 31% English:HG02215
0.016 CDG_scaled = 70% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 30% English:English1
0.016 CDG_scaled = 59% English:English2 + 41% English_Cornwall:HG00261
0.016 CDG_scaled = 59% English:English2 + 41% English_Cornwall:HG00252
0.016 CDG_scaled = 79% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 21% German_Erlangen:GSM1658657
0.016 CDG_scaled = 76% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 24% German_Hamburg:GSM1031526
0.016 CDG_scaled = 91% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 9% Russian_Pinezhsky:RPin-123
0.016 CDG_scaled = 78% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 22% German:German27
0.016 CDG_scaled = 76% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 24% German_Hamburg:GSM1031521
0.016 CDG_scaled = 88% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 12% Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr120
0.016 CDG_scaled = 89% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 11% Russian_Krasnoborsky:Rakr-237
0.016 CDG_scaled = 81% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 19% German_Erlangen:GSM1658632
0.016 CDG_scaled = 84% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 16% German_Erlangen:GSM1658659
0.016 CDG_scaled = 90% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 10% Russian_Krasnoborsky:Rakr-341
0.016 CDG_scaled = 69% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 31% German_Hamburg:GSM1031513
0.016 CDG_scaled = 88% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 12% Russian_Krasnoborsky:Rakr-345
0.016 CDG_scaled = 78% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 22% German_Hamburg:GSM1031529
0.016 CDG_scaled = 92% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 8% Russian_Leshukonsky:Rakrlsh-002
0.016 CDG_scaled = 69% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 31% English:English3
0.016 CDG_scaled = 91% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 9% Russian_Pinega:RusPinega17
0.016 CDG_scaled = 78% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 22% French_Nord:N_21_2
0.016 CDG_scaled = 57% English:English2 + 43% English_Cornwall:HG00232
0.017 CDG_scaled = 82% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 18% German_East:German_East6
0.017 CDG_scaled = 91% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 9% Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr120
0.017 CDG_scaled = 71% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 29% German:GRC10044052_German16
0.017 CDG_scaled = 91% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 9% Russian_Pinezhsky:RPin-145
0.017 CDG_scaled = 53% French_Brittany:French23989 + 47% German_Hamburg:GSM1031526
0.017 CDG_scaled = 72% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 28% German_Erlangen:GSM1658598
0.017 CDG_scaled = 64% English_Cornwall:HG00243 + 36% German_Hamburg:GSM1031526
0.017 CDG_scaled = 82% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 18% German_Erlangen:GSM1658644
0.017 CDG_scaled = 60% English:English2 + 40% English:English3
0.017 CDG_scaled = 80% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 20% German:GRC10044050_German12
0.017 CDG_scaled = 59% English_Cornwall:HG00232 + 41% German_Hamburg:GSM1031548
0.017 CDG_scaled = 91% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 9% Russian_Pinega:RusPinega1
0.017 CDG_scaled = 88% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 12% Russian_Tver:RUS_Tver442
0.017 CDG_scaled = 52% English_Cornwall:HG00252 + 48% German:GRC10044052_German16
0.017 CDG_scaled = 85% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 15% German_Erlangen:GSM1658609
0.017 CDG_scaled = 89% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 11% Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr151
0.017 CDG_scaled = 80% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 20% German_Hamburg:GSM1031510
0.017 CDG_scaled = 60% English:English2 + 40% English_Cornwall:HG00239
0.017 CDG_scaled = 76% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 24% English:England7
0.017 CDG_scaled = 75% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 25% German:German24
0.017 CDG_scaled = 88% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 12% German_Hamburg:GSM1031527
0.017 CDG_scaled = 77% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 23% German:German78
0.017 CDG_scaled = 81% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 19% German_Erlangen:GSM1658633
0.017 CDG_scaled = 59% English_Cornwall:HG00253 + 41% German:German40
0.017 CDG_scaled = 84% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 16% German_Erlangen:GSM1658627
0.017 CDG_scaled = 64% English_Cornwall:HG00253 + 36% German_Hamburg:GSM1031511
0.017 CDG_scaled = 91% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 9% Russian_Leshukonsky:Rakrlsh-149
0.017 CDG_scaled = 91% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 9% Russian_Pinezhsky:RPin-114
0.017 CDG_scaled = 70% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 30% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_23
0.017 CDG_scaled = 93% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 7% Russian_Leshukonsky:Rakrlsh-144
0.017 CDG_scaled = 86% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 14% French_Alsace:A_57
0.017 CDG_scaled = 51% English_Cornwall:HG00253 + 49% German_Hamburg:GSM1031548
0.017 CDG_scaled = 84% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 16% German_East:German_East8
0.017 CDG_scaled = 68% English:English2 + 32% German:German25
0.017 CDG_scaled = 92% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 8% Russian_Tver:RUS_Tver442
0.017 CDG_scaled = 88% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 12% Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr170
0.017 CDG_scaled = 80% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 20% German_Erlangen:GSM1658598
0.017 CDG_scaled = 70% English:English2 + 30% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_31
0.017 CDG_scaled = 67% English:HG01791 + 33% German:German35
0.017 CDG_scaled = 83% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 17% German:GRC10044046_German06
0.017 CDG_scaled = 90% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 10% German_Hamburg:GSM1031514
0.017 CDG_scaled = 88% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 12% Russian_Tver:Rksh-402
0.017 CDG_scaled = 60% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 40% English_Cornwall:HG00259
0.017 CDG_scaled = 91% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 9% Russian_Smolensk:Rsm-103
0.017 CDG_scaled = 89% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 11% Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr149
0.017 CDG_scaled = 95% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 5% Russian_Leshukonsky:Rakrlsh-002
0.017 CDG_scaled = 92% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 8% Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol349
0.017 CDG_scaled = 83% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 17% German_East:German_East1
0.017 CDG_scaled = 93% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 7% Russian_Krasnoborsky:Rakr-237
0.017 CDG_scaled = 89% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 11% Russian_Yaroslavl:RYAR-223
0.017 CDG_scaled = 86% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 14% German_Erlangen:GSM1658615
0.017 CDG_scaled = 63% English:English2 + 37% English:English1
0.017 CDG_scaled = 85% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 15% German_Erlangen:GSM1658606
0.017 CDG_scaled = 92% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 8% Russian_Orel:russianOrjol1
0.017 CDG_scaled = 92% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 8% Russian_Leshukonsky:Rakrlsh-140
0.017 CDG_scaled = 94% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 6% Russian_Pinega:RusPinega17
0.017 CDG_scaled = 93% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 7% Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr151
0.017 CDG_scaled = 77% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 23% English_Cornwall:HG00253
0.017 CDG_scaled = 93% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 7% Russian_Pskov:Rps-098
0.017 CDG_scaled = 80% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 20% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_78
0.017 CDG_scaled = 92% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 8% Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol350
0.017 CDG_scaled = 92% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 8% Russian_Orel:Rorl-110
0.017 CDG_scaled = 74% English:English2 + 26% French_Alsace:A_35
0.017 CDG_scaled = 91% English_Cornwall:HG00259 + 9% Russian_Pinezhsky:RPin-143
0.017 CDG_scaled = 91% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 9% Russian_Orel:Rorl-114
0.017 CDG_scaled = 83% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 17% French_Alsace:A_35
0.017 CDG_scaled = 92% English_Cornwall:HG00160 + 8% Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr170

Gannicus

12-13-2025, 02:35 PM

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02226634 English_Cornwall:HG00255
0.02284682 English:England9
0.02320420 English_Cornwall:HG00236
0.02354969 English:HG01791
0.02387257 English_Cornwall:HG00264
0.02422370 English:English5
0.02426719 English_Cornwall:HG00243
0.02448262 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_95
0.02453719 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48
0.02461518 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16
0.02551271 English_Cornwall:HG00259
0.02565419 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_46
0.02586687 English:English4
0.02594652 French_Nord:N_19
0.02695333 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_23
0.02714552 English:England12
0.02728902 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_32
0.02754713 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_27
0.02788614 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_12
0.02794539 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_44
0.02805503 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_4
0.02837233 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14
0.02841076 French_Paris:1_2
0.02848944 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_85
0.02856237 English_Cornwall:HG00160

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0115% / 0.01152035 | R3P
66.1 English
22.1 German
11.8 French_Paris

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0114% / 0.01136830 | R4P
64.0 English
21.5 German
8.4 French_Paris
6.1 Swiss_French

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0116% / 0.01159052 | ADC: 0.5x RC
57.8 English
14.5 French_Brittany
14.5 German
7.2 French_Paris
5.2 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.8 French_Alsace

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0137% / 0.01371847 | ADC: 1x RC
48.5 French_Brittany
34.6 English
16.9 English_Cornwall

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0156% / 0.01555192 | ADC: 2x RC
57.1 English
31.7 French_Brittany
11.2 English_Cornwall

Repent

12-13-2025, 02:46 PM

Distance to: Repent:RealG25_scaled
0.02949542 Russian_Ryazan:Rrzs-88
0.03167122 Russian_Kursk:Rkuch-53
0.03190938 Russian_Orel:Rorl-114
0.03228614 Russian_Ryazan:Rrzm-10
0.03236126 Russian_Ryazan:Rrzs-58
0.03269162 Russian_Ryazan:Rrzm-08
0.03404491 Russian_Orel:russianOrjol89
0.03418732 Russian_Orel:russianOrjol100
0.03504966 Russian_Ryazan:Rrzs-11
0.03505654 Russian_Ryazan:Rrzm-16
0.03506915 Russian_Orel:Rorl-155
0.03522717 Russian_Orel:russianOrjol56
0.03594439 Russian_Belgorod:Rbgp-205
0.03641860 Russian_Belgorod:Rbgp-203
0.03678487 Russian_Smolensk:SM256_russian_Smolensk
0.03711843 Russian_Voronez:RussianVoron105
0.03762264 Russian_Tver:Rksh-405
0.03766436 Russian_Belgorod:Rbgp-201
0.03827981 Russian_Orel:Rorl-110
0.03867866 Russian_Kursk:Rkuch-58
0.03890446 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol349
0.03909935 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol303
0.03955191 Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk9
0.03955340 Russian_Ryazan:Rrzs-66
0.03979450 Russian_Orel:RussianOrjol34

Target: Repent:RealG25_scaled
Distance: 1.4654% / 0.01465384
24.6 Russian_Ryazan
24.0 Russian_Orel
15.6 Russian_Kostroma
11.8 German
10.4 Italian_Campania
9.2 Russian_Belgorod
4.0 Italian_Calabria
0.4 Russian_Smolensk

tk'es

12-13-2025, 02:46 PM

without caucasus

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 9.3315% / 0.09331467
60.8 Italian_Campania
22.6 Russian_Leshukonsky
16.6 Italian_Calabria

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 9.3315% / 0.09331467 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.8 Italian_Campania
22.6 Russian_Leshukonsky
16.6 Italian_Calabria

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 9.3502% / 0.09350151 | ADC: 0.5x RC
78.0 Italian_Campania
22.0 Russian_Leshukonsky

with caucasus

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 3.3779% / 0.03377944
76.4 NorthCaucasus
14.8 German_Erlangen
4.8 Caucasus
3.2 Russian_Leshukonsky
0.8 Italian_Abruzzo

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 3.3848% / 0.03384824 | ADC: 0.5x RC
82.0 NorthCaucasus
18.0 German_Erlangen

caucasus and germanic as usual

black hole

12-13-2025, 02:57 PM

gixajo

12-13-2025, 03:11 PM

That is incredibly interesting that you always get Germanic component rather than Slavic which is geographically close to North Caucasus. I always surprise. Can local genetic experts like Peterski, gixajo or others tell how does it come?

I'm no expert at this, I'm an amateur who treats this as little more than a game.;)

Edit: Maybe some German soldier belonging to Operation Edelweiss had "loving dealings" with his great-grandmother.:rolleyes:

majevica

12-13-2025, 03:18 PM

Pelmeni Pizza

Target: scaled
Distance: 1.3393% / 0.01339303 | R4P
31.8 Russian_Belgorod
26.0 Russian_Smolensk
21.8 Italian_Abruzzo
20.4 Italian_Emilia

gixajo

12-13-2025, 03:29 PM

Pelmeni Pizza

Emilia

I envy you. Better Italian than French.

Petalpusher

12-13-2025, 03:31 PM

Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 1.7073% / 0.01707281
23.8 German
23.2 French_Chalosse
19.6 French_Brittany
11.2 Italian_Aosta_Valley
8.2 French_Bearn
5.0 German_East
4.8 French_Nord
2.6 German_Hamburg
1.6 German_Erlangen

Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 1.7558% / 0.01755769 | R3P
41.2 German
38.8 French_Chalosse
20.0 French_Brittany

Distance to: Petalpusher
0.02994833 French_Nord:N_52
0.03257508 French_Occitanie:T_33
0.03321789 French_Occitanie:T_97
0.03371677 French_Occitanie:T_127
0.03377487 French_Alsace:A_65
0.03384474 French_Nord:N_40
0.03421962 German_Erlangen:GSM1658599
0.03430404 French_Alsace:A_79
0.03441474 French_Nord:N_80_2
0.03442056 French_Pas-de-Calais:French25068
0.03492478 German:GRC10044047_German07
0.03497692 French_Alsace:A_69
0.03512243 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_29
0.03537328 English:HG01790
0.03554309 French_Bigorre:1177
0.03571179 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_20
0.03577460 Swiss_German:Swiss_German5
0.03598363 German:GRC10044059_German24
0.03617571 German:German15
0.03627552 French_Occitanie:T_112
0.03628045 French_Occitanie:T_80
0.03651245 French_Auvergne:C_16
0.03661372 French_Paris:93
0.03663416 English_Cornwall:HG00235
0.03666291 French_Alsace:A_25

Dick

12-13-2025, 03:38 PM

Target: _scaled
Distance: 0.9705% / 0.00970459 | ADC: 0.25x RC
28.6 Russian_Belgorod
24.8 Italian_Apulia
15.8 Russian_Smolensk
9.6 German_Erlangen
8.0 Italian_Campania
7.4 German_East
5.8 German

Target: _scaled
Distance: 1.2247% / 0.01224686 | ADC: 0.5x RC
41.6 Russian_Belgorod
21.6 Italian_Campania
18.4 German_East
10.6 Italian_Northeast
5.8 Italian_Apulia
2.0 German_Erlangen

Usernotfound

12-13-2025, 05:02 PM

Distance: 1.7570% / 0.01756990 | R4P
34.4 Italian_Apulia
29.4 Italian_Northeast
22.6 Russian_Smolensk
13.6 Russian_Belgorod

Distance: 1.8025% / 0.01802525 | R3P
35.4 Russian_Smolensk
32.8 Italian_Apulia
31.8 Italian_Northeast

BabtistJohn

12-13-2025, 05:17 PM

Distance: 0.3892% / 0.00389244 | ADC: 0.5x RC
26.4 English
25.4 French_Brittany
23.4 German
20.0 English_Cornwall
4.8 German_East

Distance: 0.1728% / 0.00172846 | ADC: 0.25x RC
28.4 German
26.8 French_Brittany
21.0 English
13.2 English_Cornwall
8.0 German_Erlangen
2.6 Russian_Leshukonsky

black hole

12-13-2025, 05:23 PM

I'm no expert at this, I'm an amateur who treats this as little more than a game.;)

Edit: Maybe some German soldier belonging to Operation Edelweiss had "loving dealings" with his great-grandmother.:rolleyes:

Those people were pro-German in that time, and they did not resist them, they rather welcome them. Also, are you sure that German soldier carried haplogroup J2a? xD

JerryS.

12-13-2025, 07:22 PM

No Irish and Scottish?

jduvuwguwjs

12-13-2025, 07:54 PM

Target: me:me
Distance: 0.9909% / 0.00990894 | R3P
35.0 Russian_Smolensk
34.8 German
30.2 Russian_Orel

What do you guys think?

tk'es

12-13-2025, 08:34 PM

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Full European groups.. modern european population content has been updated and it must be quiet accurate, please check it

1) https://isharetext.com/p/bbvnww1n

2) https://file.kiwi/d0b9ddb0#uZYGlRraFh4UdL5t8zBPMQ

3) https://jumpshare.com/s/p5QZ3ZoTCO17H1crrGVN

Fistora

12-13-2025, 08:49 PM

Target: me_scaled (100 iterations, 353,220 models generated in 92 ms)
1 0.015 62% Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk9 + 38% German:German73
2 0.019 60% Russian_Orel:russianOrjol78 + 40% German:German40
3 0.019 57% Russian_Smolensk:Rsm-179 + 43% German_Hamburg:GSM1031517
4 0.019 71% Russian_Tver:RUS_Tver415 + 29% Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta4
5 0.019 53% Russian_Kaluga:Rkbo-12 + 47% German_Hamburg:GSM1031517
6 0.020 50% German_Erlangen:GSM1658650 + 50% Russian_Tver:Rksh-412
7 0.020 55% Russian_Ryazan:Rrzs-58 + 45% German_Hamburg:GSM1031517
8 0.020 57% German:GRC10044067_German33 + 43% German_Erlangen:GSM1658664
9 0.020 50% Russian_Voronez:RussianVoron107 + 50% German_Hamburg:GSM1031517
10 0.020 58% German:German73 + 42% Russian_Orel:Rorl-102

Target: me_scaled
Distance: 1.2460% / 0.01245974 | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.0 German
28.4 Russian_Kursk
14.4 Russian_Tver
10.4 Italian_Northeast
4.8 Russian_Smolensk
4.2 German_Hamburg
2.0 Russian_Ryazan
1.8 German_Erlangen

Target: me_scaled
Distance: 1.7313% / 0.01731298 | ADC: 1x RC
44.0 German
29.6 Russian_Kursk
26.4 German_Erlangen

cass

12-13-2025, 09:05 PM

tk'es

12-13-2025, 09:08 PM

Full European groups.. modern european population content has been updated and it must be quiet accurate, please check it

1) https://isharetext.com/p/bbvnww1n

2) https://file.kiwi/d0b9ddb0#uZYGlRraFh4UdL5t8zBPMQ

3) https://jumpshare.com/s/p5QZ3ZoTCO17H1crrGVN

updated datasheet and results still remain the same (:

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 3.2434% / 0.03243378
79.8 NorthCaucasus
14.4 Dutch
4.8 Greek_Dodecanese
1.0 Russian_Leshukonsky

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 3.2541% / 0.03254145 | ADC: 0.25x RC
80.2 NorthCaucasus
15.0 Dutch
4.8 Greek_Crete

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 3.3674% / 0.03367431 | ADC: 0.5x RC
79.8 NorthCaucasus
16.2 German_Erlangen
4.0 Greek_Crete

Fistora

12-13-2025, 09:16 PM

Target: cass
Distance: 0.4021% / 0.00402087 | ADC: 0.25x RC
29.8 German_Erlangen
22.2 German
21.8 Russian_Smolensk
17.6 German_Hamburg
8.6 Russian_Orel

Completely pointless without Polish samples.

There are too many "German" samples that overlap with the Polish ones. I would have to do some cherry-picking for this to actually make sense

cass

12-13-2025, 09:37 PM

There are too many "German" samples that overlap with the Polish ones. I would have to do some cherry-picking for this to actually make sense

Distance to: cass
0.01053557 Marszalkowski
0.01103789 Kreft
0.01157161 German_Pomerania
0.01259983 Wesierski
0.01285823 German_West_Prussia
0.01454336 German_Schleswig-Holstein_o
0.01509321 German_West_Prussia
0.01593685 German_Lower_Silesia
0.01647355 Bronk
0.01736875 German_Hamburg:GSM1031523
0.01781578 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.01781639 German_Thuringia_East
0.01803367 PL_50°15′N_19°01′E_Silesian_simulated
0.01803370 PL_50°15′N_19°01′E_Silesian
0.01815717 German_Lower_Silesia
0.01829100 German_Farther_Pomerania
0.01836335 Breza
0.01894581 German_Thuringia
0.01901229 German_Brandenburg
0.01992496 Modrzejewski
0.02048228 PolishL_WlkpSouth4_Odolanow
0.02048228 PL_51°34′N_17°40′E_Odolanow
0.02054908 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.02090817 Gierszewski
0.02107020 German_Upper_Silesia

Without a doubt, some are indistinguishable from Pomeranians.

Gannicus

12-13-2025, 09:50 PM

With the updated list:

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02078366 Welsh:WalesBK68
0.02226634 English_Cornwall:HG00255
0.02284682 English:England9
0.02320420 English_Cornwall:HG00236
0.02354969 English:HG01791
0.02367376 Welsh:WalesL40
0.02387257 English_Cornwall:HG00264
0.02422370 English:English5
0.02426719 English_Cornwall:HG00243
0.02448262 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_95
0.02453719 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48
0.02461518 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16
0.02472746 Welsh:WalesL44
0.02483887 Dutch:GSM1633993
0.02510463 Dutch:GSM1634041
0.02551271 English_Cornwall:HG00259
0.02557309 Welsh:WalesCHF13
0.02565419 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_46
0.02586687 English:English4
0.02589988 Dutch:GSM566785
0.02594652 French_Nord:N_19
0.02621970 Irish:Irish11
0.02640454 Irish:Irish12
0.02646404 Welsh:WalesL86
0.02647081 Dutch:GSM1633936

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0052% / 0.00517228 | R5P
66.3 Irish
10.0 Spanish_Biscay
9.6 Spanish_Navarra
8.3 Dutch
5.8 Italian_Emilia

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0055% / 0.00551257 | R3P
67.1 Irish
20.0 Spanish_Alacant
12.9 Dutch

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0053% / 0.00529009 | R4P
68.6 Irish
15.4 Spanish_Alacant
9.2 Dutch
6.8 Spanish_Biscay

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0078% / 0.00784813 | ADC: 0.5x RC
58.1 Irish
12.3 English_Cornwall
10.5 Basque_Araba
9.5 French_Paris
5.6 French_Brittany
4.0 German

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0132% / 0.01315491 | ADC: 1x RC
26.3 French_Brittany
25.8 Irish
23.4 English
16.3 English_Cornwall
8.2 Welsh

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0164% / 0.01639736 | ADC: 2x RC
41.2 Welsh
36.6 English
22.2 English_Cornwall

gixajo

12-13-2025, 09:59 PM

0.013 gixajo_scaled = 52% Spanish_Biscay:7323 + 48% Spanish_Eivissa:EIV012_2
0.013 gixajo_scaled = 66% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01506 + 34% French_Chalosse:1323
0.014 gixajo_scaled = 66% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01506 + 34% French_South:SouthFrench1323
0.014 gixajo_scaled = 61% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01506 + 39% Basque_French:HGDP01364
0.014 gixajo_scaled = 54% Basque_Lower_Navarre:7454 + 46% Spanish_Eivissa:GUS203
0.014 gixajo_scaled = 52% Spanish_Biscay:7323 + 48% Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:SAB009
0.014 gixajo_scaled = 59% French_Chalosse:1323 + 41% Spanish_Galicia:HG01685
0.014 gixajo_scaled = 57% French_Chalosse:1323 + 43% Portuguese: Portugal12
0.014 gixajo_scaled = 55% Spanish_Biscay:7323 + 45% Spanish_Mallorca:ALE339
0.014 gixajo_scaled = 51% Spanish_Galicia:GAL20 + 49% Basque_Spanish:BAS32

ScandinavianCelt

12-13-2025, 10:36 PM

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 1.9550% / 0.01955002 | ADC: 2x RC
59.4 German_Hamburg
40.6 German

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 1.4008% / 0.01400775 | ADC: 1x RC
59.6 German
40.4 German_Hamburg

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 1.1059% / 0.01105929 | ADC: 0.5x RC
47.6 German
19.6 English
18.0 German_Hamburg
8.0 Russian_Pinezhsky
6.8 German_Erlangen

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 0.9399% / 0.00939917 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.6 German
29.4 English
5.4 Russian_Leshukonsky
5.2 Italian_Aosta_Valley
5.0 German_Hamburg
4.2 Russian_Pinezhsky
3.2 French_Brittany

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 0.9357% / 0.00935651
47.8 German
32.0 English
5.0 Russian_Leshukonsky
4.6 Russian_Pinezhsky
3.4 French_Brittany
3.0 German_Hamburg
3.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
1.2 Italian_Campania

Repent

12-14-2025, 12:41 AM

Target: me:me
Distance: 0.9909% / 0.00990894 | R3P
35.0 Russian_Smolensk
34.8 German
30.2 Russian_Orel

What do you guys think?

Full European groups.. modern european population content has been updated and it must be quiet accurate, please check it

1) https://isharetext.com/p/bbvnww1n

2) https://file.kiwi/d0b9ddb0#uZYGlRraFh4UdL5t8zBPMQ

3) https://jumpshare.com/s/p5QZ3ZoTCO17H1crrGVN

Dušan

12-14-2025, 12:56 AM

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.6078% / 0.01607848
45.2 Russian_Smolensk
15.0 Italian_Tuscany
10.8 Russian_Ryazan
8.4 Italian_Bergamo
8.4 Italian_Campania
6.8 Italian_Basilicata
3.0 French_Corsica
2.4 Italian_Northeast

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.6386% / 0.01638636 | R4P
57.2 Russian_Smolensk
22.0 Italian_Tuscany
13.2 Italian_Campania
7.6 Italian_Bergamo

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.6664% / 0.01666384 | R3P
58.0 Russian_Smolensk
31.2 Italian_Tuscany
10.8 Italian_Campania

Dušan

12-14-2025, 12:58 AM

Full European groups.. modern european population content has been updated and it must be quiet accurate, please check it

1) https://isharetext.com/p/bbvnww1n

2) https://file.kiwi/d0b9ddb0#uZYGlRraFh4UdL5t8zBPMQ

3) https://jumpshare.com/s/p5QZ3ZoTCO17H1crrGVN

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 0.8677% / 0.00867750
32.6 Polish
20.8 Greek_Macedonia
10.8 Greek_Achaea
9.0 Greek_Central_Macedonia
7.6 Russian_Smolensk
6.0 Moldovan
5.4 Lithuanian_VZ
3.8 Sardinian
1.6 Russian_Ryazan
1.2 Romanian
1.2 Serbian

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 0.9386% / 0.00938554 | R4P
51.6 Polish
23.2 Greek_Macedonia
21.6 Greek_Central_Macedonia
3.6 Sardinian

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 0.9755% / 0.00975520 | R3P
50.0 Polish
27.8 Greek_Macedonia
22.2 Greek_Central_Macedonia

BabtistJohn

12-14-2025, 07:58 AM

Updated:

Distance: 0.1545% / 0.00154491 | ADC: 0.5x RC
29.2 Danish
28.0 Scottish
24.2 Swedish
11.8 Welsh
6.8 English

Distance: 0.0556% / 0.00055609 | ADC: 0.25x RC
29.4 Scottish
22.6 Danish
20.2 Swedish
11.6 Dutch
7.4 Welsh
4.8 English
3.4 German_Erlangen
0.6 Norwegian

Repent

12-14-2025, 08:26 AM

Distance to: Repent:RealG25_scaled
0.02622343 Ukrainian_Lviv:EG600089
0.02744380 Ukrainian_Lviv:EG600064
0.02920405 Ukrainian_Dnipro:EG600073
0.02949542 Russian_Ryazan:Rrzs-88
0.03016875 Polish:Polish30
0.03025472 Moldovan:44618758492C01
0.03037417 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia:EG600096
0.03067173 Ukrainian_Sumy:EG600078
0.03077179 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia:EG600020
0.03131054 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia:EG600095
0.03151856 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia:EG600036
0.03167122 Russian_Kursk:Rkuch-53
0.03178330 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia:EG600003
0.03190938 Russian_Orel:Rorl-114
0.03228614 Russian_Ryazan:Rrzm-10
0.03236126 Russian_Ryazan:Rrzs-58
0.03242731 Ukrainian_Dnipro:EG600072
0.03247773 Ukrainian_Dnipro:EG600066
0.03269162 Russian_Ryazan:Rrzm-08
0.03272606 Ukrainian_Dnipro:EG600070
0.03304105 Ukrainian_Sumy:EG600083
0.03307414 Slovakian:Slovakia94
0.03315231 Ukrainian_Rivne:EG600041
0.03324161 Moldovan:44618757522C01
0.03327415 Ukrainian_Rivne:EG600043

Target: Repent:RealG25_scaled
Distance: 1.2161% / 0.01216119
19.4 Serbian
19.0 Moldovan
9.6 Russian_Kostroma
7.2 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
6.8 Russian_Ryazan
6.4 Russian_Pinezhsky
6.2 Russian_Krasnoborsky
4.4 Lithuanian_VA
4.0 Russian_Leshukonsky
3.8 Lithuanian_PA
3.6 Lithuanian_RA
3.6 Russian_Orel
3.2 Greek_Achaea
1.6 Russian_Pinega
1.2 Greek_Crete

Mallisharrit

12-14-2025, 10:20 AM

Distance to: Mallisharrit
0.03135234 Italian_Umbria:PG04
0.03139800 Italian_Tuscany:PG2012_647
0.03195726 Italian_Marche:MarADC050D
0.03205844 Italian_Piedmont:Piedmont154
0.03209472 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige:ALP200
0.03258544 Italian_Veneto:ALP209
0.03377011 Italian_Piedmont:Piedmont61
0.03379784 Italian_Veneto:ALP273
0.03419797 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont136
0.03429224 Italian_Tuscany:PG2012_242
0.03474447 Italian_Emilia:ALP211
0.03484601 Italian_Umbria:PG723
0.03491103 Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany74
0.03523317 Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany54
0.03533150 Italian_Tuscany:PG2012_477
0.03549275 Italian_Marche:MarACV100D
0.03576498 Italian_Emilia:ALP342
0.03599787 Italian_Umbria:PG08
0.03639433 Italian_Tuscany:NA20505
0.03644744 Italian_Marche:MarADG030D
0.03648221 Italian_Tuscany:PG739
0.03660813 Italian_Tuscany:NA20502
0.03702922 Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany27
0.03707531 Italian_Veneto:ALP022
0.03720608 Italian_Liguria:ALP099

Target: Mallisharrit
Distance: 1.7276% / 0.01727571 | ADC: 0.5x RC
36.0 Italian_Basilicata
20.2 Italian_Tuscany
15.0 Italian_Northeast
12.6 Russian_Smolensk
7.8 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
7.2 Italian_Marche
1.2 Italian_Veneto

Usernotfound

12-14-2025, 10:32 AM

Distance: 1.2860% / 0.01286003 | R3P
46.8 Greek_Laconia
30.6 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
22.6 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada

Distance: 1.2048% / 0.01204753 | R4P
49.2 Greek_Laconia
19.4 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
17.0 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada
14.4 Polish

Albannach

12-14-2025, 11:05 AM

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 1.3589% / 0.01358943 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.6 English_Cornwall
20.2 French_Brittany
12.8 German
10.6 English
7.0 Russian_Krasnoborsky
2.8 German_Hamburg

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.02097574 English_Cornwall:HG00232
0.02280369 English:HG02215
0.02382327 English_Cornwall:HG00259
0.02398632 English:English2
0.02427549 English_Cornwall:HG00160
0.02461745 English:English1
0.02512163 English_Cornwall:HG00253
0.02555385 English_Cornwall:HG00243
0.02577236 German_Hamburg:GSM1031513
0.02595609 English_Cornwall:HG00239
0.02615840 French_Brittany:French24400
0.02659623 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_23
0.02693674 French_Brittany:French23833
0.02719730 English:HG01789
0.02738649 German:German24
0.02799417 French_Brittany:French24247
0.02826727 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_78
0.02868834 French_Brittany:French24090
0.02882640 English:England13
0.02951860 English_Cornwall:HG00252
0.02973719 English_Cornwall:HG00261
0.03055129 English:England7
0.03061679 English_Cornwall:HG00264
0.03063494 English:England14
0.03091260 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_98

Boudin

12-14-2025, 06:21 PM

23andMe has my only region as Brittany, and does mark me as having Swiss-French ancestry, so this is a good calculator?

Distance to: Boudin_scaled
0.03030667 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_12
0.03075292 French_Alsace:A_42
0.03107452 German:GRC10044055_German19
0.03199568 French_Provence:S_17
0.03205180 French_Alsace:A_28
0.03304701 Swiss_German:Swiss_German4
0.03310774 Swiss_French:Swiss_French7
0.03319431 French_Occitanie:T_53
0.03329463 French_Occitanie:T_9
0.03378472 French_Alsace:A_23
0.03386358 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta9

This isn't accurate though:

Target: Boudin_scaled
Distance: 1.7838% / 0.01783841
44.0 German
21.6 Italian_Aosta_Valley
16.6 French_South
8.2 French_Chalosse
5.2 Swiss_German
3.4 Russian_Pinezhsky
1.0 French_Brittany

Vitez

12-15-2025, 02:46 PM

Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 0.0092% / 0.00915188 | R3P
40.1 Russian_Tver
35.9 German_Erlangen
24.0 Italian_Campania

Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 0.0084% / 0.00843928 | R4P
28.9 German_Erlangen
24.9 Italian_Campania
24.4 Russian_Ryazan
21.8 Russian_Tver