Gannicus
12-16-2025, 01:19 AM
exploreyourdna.com has a list of IA Gauls but I don't think it has some of the individuals listed here. Some come from Ajeje's big ancient list.
If I missed some, go ahead and share them too.
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Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02217071 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461__BC_440__Cov_94.7 6%*
0.03068544 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022425__BC_465__Cov_97.5 6%
0.03438713 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022433__BC_578__Cov_53.5 0%
0.03499769 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022454__BC_465__Cov_96.3 9%
0.03529325 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022427__BC_465__Cov_91.9 4%
0.03705927 France_GrandEst_IA2:I21402
0.03715343 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022418__BC_465__Cov_98.2 9%
0.03715457 France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03750164 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022429__BC_440__Cov_95.8 2%
0.03750616 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19356
0.03775805 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022428__BC_465__Cov_96.3 4%
0.03844879 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19362
0.03868281 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022452__BC_465__Cov_94.5 1%
0.03875621 France_Occitanie_IA2.SG:PEY53.SG
0.03966948 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022464__BC_465__Cov_80.8 1%
0.03979125 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022440__BC_436__Cov_95.4 6%
0.04018023 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022444__BC_440__Cov_36.5 4%
0.04051879 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022456__BC_440__Cov_99.2 1%
0.04150003 France_HautsDeFrance_IA2.SG:BFM265.SG
0.04163331 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022463__BC_465__Cov_95.1 0%
0.04181815 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022443__BC_436__Cov_97.9 2%
0.04197250 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022426__BC_465__Cov_80.3 6%
0.04414088 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19357
0.04441396 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022435__BC_465__Cov_17.9 8%
0.04644992 France_GrandEst_IA2:I21399
Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0177% / 0.01770031
74.8 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA
20.7 France_Occitanie_IA2.SG
4.1 France_GrandEst_IA2
0.4 France_GrandEst_IA2.SG
Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.01898169 74.60% France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461__BC_440__Cov_94.7 6% + 25.40% France_Occitanie_IA2.SG:PEY53.SG
0.02043274 23.00% France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022427__BC_465__Cov_91.9 4% + 77.00% France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461__BC_440__Cov_94.7 6%
0.02044053 84.80% France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461__BC_440__Cov_94.7 6% + 15.20% France_GrandEst_IA2.SG:ERS86.SG
0.02113025 82.00% France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461__BC_440__Cov_94.7 6% + 18.00% France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.02124406 84.80% France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461__BC_440__Cov_94.7 6% + 15.20% France_HautsDeFrance_IA2.SG:BFM265.SG
*I'm pretty sure France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461 is my closest ancient individual.
Boudin
12-16-2025, 02:10 AM
The amount of interesting information gleanable from these comparisons is questionable, but...
Distance to: Boudin_scaled
0.04101256 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022452__BC_465__Cov_94.5 1%
0.04173858 France_GrandEst_IA2:I20827
0.04188834 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022427__BC_465__Cov_91.9 4%
0.04346147 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022433__BC_578__Cov_53.5 0%
Gannicus
12-16-2025, 02:35 AM
The amount of interesting information gleanable from these comparisons is questionable, but...
Distance to: Boudin_scaled
0.04101256 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022452__BC_465__Cov_94.5 1%
0.04173858 France_GrandEst_IA2:I20827
0.04188834 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022427__BC_465__Cov_91.9 4%
0.04346147 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022433__BC_578__Cov_53.5 0%
If anything, its reflecting overall genetic connectivity with northern Gaul and southern Celtic Britons and northern Gaul and Insular Celts in general. My next closest is an IA Briton from east Yorkshire:
Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02318365 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I14107__BC_225__Cov_ 50.66%
0.02364292 England_MIA_LIA:I21310__BC_165__Cov_70.15%
IllustrativeDNA.com has a nice link to a study about this:
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Large-scale migration into Britain during the Middle to Late Bronze Age
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04287-4
Boudin
12-16-2025, 04:12 AM
If anything, its reflecting overall genetic connectivity with northern Gaul and southern Celtic Britons and northern Gaul and Insular Celts in general.
Then why do you have closer matches to Gauls when I am almost 90% French?
BabtistJohn
12-16-2025, 11:18 AM
0.02111876 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461__BC_440__Cov_94.7 6%
0.02373645 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022425__BC_465__Cov_97.5 6%
0.02426613 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19362
0.02428290 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022428__BC_465__Cov_96.3 4%
0.02639019 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19356
0.02701622 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022426__BC_465__Cov_80.3 6%
0.02886476 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022440__BC_436__Cov_95.4 6%
0.03087379 France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03124732 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022444__BC_440__Cov_36.5 4%
0.03217357 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022464__BC_465__Cov_80.8 1%
0.03259971 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022454__BC_465__Cov_96.3 9%
0.03265713 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022463__BC_465__Cov_95.1 0%
0.03314182 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022456__BC_440__Cov_99.2 1%
0.03411225 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022433__BC_578__Cov_53.5 0%
0.03459386 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022418__BC_465__Cov_98.2 9%
0.03693823 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022429__BC_440__Cov_95.8 2%
0.03712076 France_GrandEst_IA2:I21402
0.03758006 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19357
0.04134799 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022452__BC_465__Cov_94.5 1%
0.04142612 France_GrandEst_IA2.SG:COL11.SG
0.04164837 France_HautsDeFrance_IA2.SG:BFM265.SG
0.04215230 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022443__BC_436__Cov_97.9 2%
0.04230797 France_GrandEst_IA2:I21931
0.04274296 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022427__BC_465__Cov_91.9 4%
0.04331415 France_GrandEst_IA1.SG:NOR3-6.SG
gixajo
12-16-2025, 11:24 AM
Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.02990462 France_SouthEast_IA2:I19917
0.03564477 France_SouthEast_IA2:I19918
0.03799406 France_GrandEst_IA2:I21399
0.04087417 France_SouthEast_IA2:I19916
0.04272861 France_GrandEst_IA2.SG:ERS88.SG
0.04406528 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022452__BC_465__Cov_94.5 1%
0.04604373 France_GrandEst_IA1.SG:NOR3-15.SG
0.04642022 France_SouthEast_IA2:I13623
0.04658228 France_GrandEst_IA2:I20827
0.04932336 France_SouthEast_IA2:I13620
0.05031376 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022420__BC_573__Cov_80.5 1%
0.05042951 France_Occitanie_IA2.SG:PT2.SG
0.05079823 France_GrandEst_IA2:I21402
0.05098068 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022454__BC_465__Cov_96.3 9%
0.05213918 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022429__BC_440__Cov_95.8 2%
0.05243815 France_GrandEst_IA1.SG:NOR4.SG
0.05344121 France_HautsDeFrance_IA2.SG:BFM265.SG
0.05365617 France_Occitanie_IA2.SG:PECH8.SG
0.05377384 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022443__BC_436__Cov_97.9 2%
0.05413000 France_GrandEst_IA1.SG:NOR2B6.SG
0.05478693 France_Occitanie_IA2.SG:PEY163.SG
0.05551686 France_GrandEst_IA2:I20815
0.05723161 France_GrandEst_IA2.SG:ERS86.SG
0.05874783 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022418__BC_465__Cov_98.2 9%
0.05986391 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022433__BC_578__Cov_53.5 0%
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.1301% / 0.02130094
33.6 France_GrandEst_IA1.SG
29.2 France_SouthEast_IA2
17.6 France_Occitanie_IA2.SG
16.6 France_GrandEst_IA2.SG
3.0 France_GrandEst_IA2
Repent
12-16-2025, 12:06 PM
Distance to: Repent:RealG25_scaled
0.06548191 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022428__BC_465__Cov_96.3 4%
0.06605856 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19356
0.06710647 France_GrandEst_IA2.SG:ERS1164.SG
0.06901160 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19362
0.07216723 France_Marne_IA.SG:CHF106.SG__BC_438__Cov_15.07%
0.07336309 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022444__BC_440__Cov_36.5 4%
0.07400830 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022425__BC_465__Cov_97.5 6%
0.07424457 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022454__BC_465__Cov_96.3 9%
0.07441193 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022433__BC_578__Cov_53.5 0%
0.07503134 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022456__BC_440__Cov_99.2 1%
0.07518903 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461__BC_440__Cov_94.7 6%
0.07560461 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022426__BC_465__Cov_80.3 6%
0.07584254 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022418__BC_465__Cov_98.2 9%
0.07617305 France_GrandEst_IA2:I21931
0.07650937 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19358
0.07708698 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022440__BC_436__Cov_95.4 6%
0.07715394 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022464__BC_465__Cov_80.8 1%
0.07751083 France_GrandEst_IA2.SG:COL11.SG
0.07757948 France_GrandEst_IA2:I21402
0.07805310 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022463__BC_465__Cov_95.1 0%
0.07835014 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19357
0.07971187 France_GrandEst_IA2.SG:COL153A.SG
0.08250952 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022429__BC_440__Cov_95.8 2%
0.08265584 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022452__BC_465__Cov_94.5 1%
0.08307740 France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
Target: Repent:RealG25_scaled
Distance: 6.2623% / 0.06262257
32.2 France_GrandEst_IA2.SG
28.0 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA
23.2 France_GrandEst_IA2
16.6 France_Marne_IA.SG
leachim_x
12-16-2025, 01:33 PM
Distance to: Lx_g25(scaled)
0.03141810 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022464__BC_465__Cov_80.8 1%
0.03166552 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022456__BC_440__Cov_99.2 1%
0.03209472 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022428__BC_465__Cov_96.3 4%
0.03259967 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022454__BC_465__Cov_96.3 9%
0.03267448 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022426__BC_465__Cov_80.3 6%
0.03281094 France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03463032 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022440__BC_436__Cov_95.4 6%
0.03527382 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19362
0.03541163 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022463__BC_465__Cov_95.1 0%
0.03623759 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022425__BC_465__Cov_97.5 6%
0.03630631 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461__BC_440__Cov_94.7 6%
0.03882489 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022443__BC_436__Cov_97.9 2%
0.03937675 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19357
0.03959330 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022444__BC_440__Cov_36.5 4%
0.04041574 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19356
0.04102570 France_HautsDeFrance_IA2.SG:BFM265.SG
0.04129626 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19358
0.04156711 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022433__BC_578__Cov_53.5 0%
0.04217495 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022418__BC_465__Cov_98.2 9%
0.04246024 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022429__BC_440__Cov_95.8 2%
0.04397176 France_GrandEst_IA2:I20815
0.04404385 France_GrandEst_IA1.SG:NOR3-6.SG
0.04502274 France_GrandEst_IA2:I21402
0.04507264 France_Occitanie_IA2.SG:PEY53.SG
0.04516444 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022420__BC_573__Cov_80.5 1%
Distance to: Lx_K36
0.02311081 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022428__BC_465__Cov_96.3 4%
0.02312165 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022425__BC_465__Cov_97.5 6%
0.02423467 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461__BC_440__Cov_94.7 6%
0.02634530 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19362
0.02831524 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19356
0.02908914 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022454__BC_465__Cov_96.3 9%
0.02997016 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022456__BC_440__Cov_99.2 1%
0.03047690 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022444__BC_440__Cov_36.5 4%
0.03137113 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022433__BC_578__Cov_53.5 0%
0.03147094 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022426__BC_465__Cov_80.3 6%
0.03301524 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022464__BC_465__Cov_80.8 1%
0.03319758 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022418__BC_465__Cov_98.2 9%
0.03422650 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022452__BC_465__Cov_94.5 1%
0.03438271 France_GrandEst_IA2:I21402
0.03470117 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022440__BC_436__Cov_95.4 6%
0.03503231 France_GrandEst_IA2:I20817
0.03605266 France_HautsDeFrance_IA2.SG:BFM265.SG
0.03672504 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022463__BC_465__Cov_95.1 0%
0.03717898 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022443__BC_436__Cov_97.9 2%
0.03737906 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022429__BC_440__Cov_95.8 2%
0.04009070 France_GrandEst_IA2:I19357
0.04025536 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022427__BC_465__Cov_91.9 4%
0.04037747 France_GrandEst_IA2:I20827
0.04161163 France_GrandEst_IA2:I21931
0.04174665 France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022420__BC_573__Cov_80.5 1%
Gannicus
12-16-2025, 05:28 PM
Then why do you have closer matches to Gauls when I am almost 90% French?
Your distances still indicate relatedness. It's just not these particular Gauls I have selected. Which were individuals. Not averages. I experimented with looking at the ranges of groups said to be basically 100% of something. Check this out:
Distance to: Kalash_avg
0.01298575 Kalash:HGDP00309
0.01423177 Kalash:HGDP00274
0.01477674 Kalash:HGDP00307
0.01541719 Kalash:HGDP00281
0.01686096 Kalash:Kalash1
0.01739920 Kalash:HGDP00288
0.01812606 Kalash:HGDP00302
0.01841474 Kalash:HGDP00267
0.01916457 Kalash:HGDP00326
0.01989980 Kalash:HGDP00290
0.02119908 Kalash:HGDP00313
0.02127236 Kalash:HGDP00328
0.02185974 Kalash:HGDP00323
0.02209507 Kalash:HGDP00319
0.02323276 Kalash:HGDP00285
0.02430035 Kalash:HGDP00286
0.02467707 Kalash:HGDP00277
0.02522097 Kalash:HGDP00330
0.02605700 Kalash:HGDP00315
0.02684523 Kalash:HGDP00298
0.02708184 Kalash:HGDP00304
0.02865268 Kalash:HGDP00311
0.03089246 Kalash:HGDP00279
Distance to: Kalash:HGDP00288
0.02023356 Kalash:HGDP00307
0.02086253 Kalash:HGDP00274
0.02192371 Kalash:HGDP00281
0.02321326 Kalash:HGDP00302
0.02395418 Kalash:HGDP00309
0.02464968 Kalash:HGDP00290
0.02524746 Kalash:Kalash1
0.02586913 Kalash:HGDP00267
0.02677921 Kalash:HGDP00286
0.02680764 Kalash:HGDP00319
0.02759444 Kalash:HGDP00326
0.02861857 Kalash:HGDP00328
0.02864592 Kalash:HGDP00285
0.02928226 Kalash:HGDP00304
0.03063640 Kalash:HGDP00323
0.03197947 Kalash:HGDP00313
0.03241826 Kalash:HGDP00315
0.03247116 Kalash:HGDP00277
0.03297384 Kalash:HGDP00330
0.03366981 Kalash:HGDP00298
0.03480416 Kalash:HGDP00311
0.03760791 Kalash:HGDP00279
I picked Kalash here because it's said they are a pretty genetically homogenous group.
With IA Scandinavians:
Distance to: Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.02567179 Scandinavia_IA:Norway_IA.SG:VK523_noUDG.SG
0.02813309 Scandinavia_IA:Oland_IA:snb010
0.02842958 Scandinavia_IA:Nordland_IA:hvr009
0.02849190 Scandinavia_IA:Oland_IA:snb014
0.02856272 Scandinavia_IA:Gotland_IA:lau001
0.03133404 Scandinavia_IA:Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG
0.03219280 Scandinavia_IA:Romback_IA:rtp001
0.03255209 Scandinavia_IA:Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG
0.03585049 Scandinavia_IA:Oland_IA:snb018
0.03610997 Scandinavia_IA:Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.03624604 Scandinavia_IA:Oland_IA:snb012
0.03822660 Scandinavia_IA:Oland_IA:snb013
0.04177445 Scandinavia_IA:Uppsala_IA:ven001
0.04177924 Scandinavia_IA:Uppsala_IA:als001
0.04227919 Scandinavia_IA:Uppsala_IA:ful001
0.04287683 Scandinavia_IA:Romback_IA:rtp003
0.04362489 Scandinavia_IA:Oland_IA:snb017
0.04414278 Scandinavia_IA:Norway_IA.SG:VK391_noUDG.SG
0.04512636 Scandinavia_IA:Oland_IA:snb019
0.04567902 Scandinavia_IA:Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG
0.04593779 Scandinavia_IA:Norway_IA.SG:VK418_noUDG.SG
0.04594091 Scandinavia_IA:Romback_IA:rtp004
Distance to: Scandinavia_IA_avg
0.01805892 Scandinavia_IA:Gotland_IA:lau001
0.02004962 Scandinavia_IA:Oland_IA:snb014
0.02087965 Scandinavia_IA:Nordland_IA:hvr009
0.02099025 Scandinavia_IA:Romback_IA:rtp001
0.02118439 Scandinavia_IA:Oland_IA:snb010
0.02137800 Scandinavia_IA:Norway_IA.SG:VK390_noUDG.SG
0.02247371 Scandinavia_IA:Norway_IA.SG:VK523_noUDG.SG
0.02351436 Scandinavia_IA:Sweden_IA_2.SG:VK522_noUDG.SG
0.02401372 Scandinavia_IA:Denmark_IA.SG:VK521_noUDG.SG
0.02445053 Scandinavia_IA:Oland_IA:snb012
0.02494894 Scandinavia_IA:Denmark_IA.SG:VK532_noUDG.SG
0.02836498 Scandinavia_IA:Romback_IA:rtp003
0.02856183 Scandinavia_IA:Oland_IA:snb013
0.02952030 Scandinavia_IA:Oland_IA:snb018
0.02954581 Scandinavia_IA:Sweden_IA.SG:RISE174_noUDG.SG
0.02963106 Scandinavia_IA:Uppsala_IA:ven001
0.03123185 Scandinavia_IA:Romback_IA:rtp004
0.03282384 Scandinavia_IA:Oland_IA:snb019
0.03570108 Scandinavia_IA:Uppsala_IA:als001
0.03615058 Scandinavia_IA:Oland_IA:snb017
0.03633981 Scandinavia_IA:Norway_IA.SG:VK418_noUDG.SG
0.04011812 Scandinavia_IA:Uppsala_IA:ful001
0.04184228 Scandinavia_IA:Norway_IA.SG:VK391_noUDG.SG
BabtistJohn
12-16-2025, 05:30 PM
I wonder if I will remain closest to the ancients on this thread.
Gannicus
12-16-2025, 07:09 PM
not for mee
That doesn't mean you can't participate. I have a few times posted my distances to Poles and Baltic groups. Just as a data point, fun, and context.
Gannicus
12-16-2025, 07:29 PM
I wonder if I will remain closest to the ancients on this thread.
Are you using simulated G25 coordinates? IllustrativeDNA used to produce G25 coordinates for customers, then they made their own PCA system separate from G25. And you can still get G25 coordinates from Davidski. I've noticed that there is a noticeable difference between simulated coordinates and "real" ones. The distance numbers are noticeably different.
These are averages of the individuals from my OP:
France_Aisne_LaTene_IA,0.1260273,0.1380556,0.05862 13,0.0388856,0.0425037,0.0136657,0.0018408,0.00830 74,0.0088626,0.0108229,-0.006252,0.0062944,-0.0129583,-0.0087618,0.0140319,-0.0005598,-0.0085474,0.0010488,0.0018714,0.0039324,0.0029947, 0.0026929,-0.0029374,0.0033604,-0.0001796
France_GrandEst_IA1,0.1243518,0.1477595,0.0549655, 0.0181688,0.0397765,0.0013945,-0.0030552,0.0075575,0.0169242,0.0180415,-0.0023545,0.0083552,-0.0156095,-0.0119732,0.0103485,0.0032152,-0.0014345,-0.0003485,0.0032052,0.005284,0.0027142,0.0001235,-0.008997,-0.0006328,-0.003742
France_GrandEst_IA2,0.1261428,0.1403818,0.0543719, 0.035188,0.0433383,0.0111228,0.002115,0.0042216,0. 0082774,0.0135283,-0.0024262,0.0045576,-0.0135632,-0.0086863,0.0120311,-0.0013492,-0.0091575,0.0019227,0.0036971,-0.0013756,0.0022534,0.0052516,0.0009788,-0.0034448,0.0001128
France_Occitanie_IA2,0.1297582,0.1377058,0.057473, 0.0221578,0.0496094,0.0094824,-0.0035722,-0.0010152,0.0192252,0.024784,0.0014938,0.0061746,-0.020634,-0.0125514,0.013002,0.0001062,-0.0009648,0.0032936,-0.0013322,-0.004352,0.01133,0.0027698,-0.0091698,-0.002675,-0.0037362
France_SouthEast_IA2,0.1277096,0.1472514,0.0605654 ,0.0129846,0.0473934,0.0003904,0.001222,0.0040616, 0.0185708,0.0351716,-0.0012342,0.0131882,-0.0203666,-0.0135144,0.0089574,0.0008752,-0.0022688,0.0032938,0.0010058,0.0012506,0.0027202, 0.0036108,-0.0032538,0.0005062,-0.001844
Distance to: Gannicus_ancestrydna_scaled
0.02686375 France_Aisne_LaTene_IA
0.03292211 France_GrandEst_IA2
0.03914314 France_GrandEst_IA1
0.04168672 France_Occitanie_IA2
0.05047807 France_SouthEast_IA2
Distance to: Gannicus_ancestrydna_simulated_g25_scaled
0.02106449 France_Aisne_LaTene_IA
0.02699499 France_GrandEst_IA2
0.04082099 France_GrandEst_IA1
0.04197503 France_Occitanie_IA2
0.05028528 France_SouthEast_IA2
Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02786326 France_Aisne_LaTene_IA
0.03401536 France_GrandEst_IA2
0.03962228 France_GrandEst_IA1
0.04244858 France_Occitanie_IA2
0.05099923 France_SouthEast_IA2
G25 is already and extrapolation. simulated g25 coordinates especially from eurogenes k36 is one more layer of extrapolation. It goes like this DNA file > K36 (extrapolation based on SNPs from DNA file)> K36>G25 simulated (an extrapolation on top of an extrapolatian) When you got IllustrativeDNA coords or Davidski, its direct extrapolation from your DNA file.
BabtistJohn
12-16-2025, 07:38 PM
They are simulated but I tend to show up more closer to the ancients in other tests also than normal even for people using simulated coordinates. I think I just have old blood. My phenotype looks old too like more cro-magnon.
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