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ScandinavianCelt
12-20-2025, 03:22 PM
Map of Source populations:

https://i.postimg.cc/zGqbWVSG/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2025-12-20T125835-942.png (https://postimages.org/)


Source:


Basque,0.129623,0.149935,0.056064,0.010816,0.05573 8,0.001848,-0.002031,0.001443,0.029638,0.042041,-0.006074,0.011241,-0.022470,-0.017333,0.015245,0.001330,-0.006038,0.002261,-0.001238,-0.003000,0.008631,0.001404,-0.007758,-0.008999,0.001398
Celtic,0.133361,0.134098,0.061169,0.048864,0.03778 8,0.019352,0.003293,0.004713,0.003568,0.002927,-0.006971,0.00584,-0.014189,-0.014076,0.025935,0.005215,-0.011145,0.001894,0.000597,0.001776,0.005114,0.001 279,0.000293,0.014407,0.000661
French,0.127328,0.143535,0.047403,0.014835,0.04307 5,0.005690,0.001144,0.002273,0.014502,0.022983,-0.004240,0.006689,-0.014546,-0.010423,0.010197,0.002925,-0.002698,0.001429,0.001072,-0.000750,0.003879,0.002138,-0.002356,0.001827,-0.000661
German,0.130299,0.137378,0.057363,0.037865,0.03956 6,0.015146,0.004177,0.005897,0.003746,0.001633,-0.004331,0.002316,-0.005334,-0.001744,0.008738,0.002822,-0.0033,0.001633,0.003531,0.001114,0.002947,0.00180 1,0.000337,0.00836,7.4e-05
Greek,0.114846,0.1445099,-0.0041639,-0.0345836,0.0114162,-0.0116883,0.0026379,-0.0008963,-0.0034625,0.0138687,0.0023775,0.0022983,-0.0035142,0.0057909,-0.013369,-0.002887,0.0058441,0.0010114,0.0051216,-0.0042356,-0.0050096,0.0013782,0.0013402,0.0006421,-0.0013707
Italian,0.1160912,0.1475467,0.0124004,-0.0243908,0.0241347,-0.0089851,0.0009555,-0.0005419,0.0072179,0.0226022,-0.0008627,0.0043428,-0.0090109,-0.0032736,-0.0039812,-0.001934,0.0017011,0.0005811,0.0029856,-0.0036246,-0.0020506,0.0015323,-0.0001164,0.0028339,-0.0003809
Nordic,0.130658,0.116684,0.074102,0.060138,0.03642 1,0.020526,0.005617,0.009141,0.003968,-0.007609,-0.002172,0.001215,-0.002456,-0.005831,0.015184,0.005027,-0.006621,0.001703,0.001867,0.004170,0.007484,0.002 415,0.000556,0.011770,0.000723
Slavic_East,0.129616,0.105869,0.076603,0.067225,0. 032429,0.02517,0.009312,0.012576,-0.004244,-0.026493,0.000954,-0.009648,0.016817,0.021951,-0.010162,0.001873,0.006161,-0.000206,-0.000189,0.002189,-0.003229,-0.004838,0.008704,-0.003269,-0.002305
Slavic_North,0.135449,0.122473,0.088774,0.089471,0 .043208,0.034025,0.012597,0.014076,-0.002168,-0.036885,-0.003573,-0.013818,0.023221,0.031378,-0.010559,0.004057,0.002712,-0.00038,0.001609,0.004302,-0.002795,-0.005713,0.009071,-0.009327,0.002634
Slavic_Southeast,0.12475,0.134862,0.025644,0.00536 2,0.02462,-0.000837,0.005499,0.003046,-0.000286,0.006998,-0.003345,0.000899,0.002111,0.008643,-0.014305,-0.002228,0.007093,0.002002,0.003142,-0.003702,-0.004617,-0.000544,0.00281,-0.002482,-0.001078
Slavic_West,0.130441,0.128769,0.062677,0.051486,0. 041238,0.020024,0.006768,0.0078,-0.001841,-0.011554,-0.001916,-0.003747,0.009871,0.010432,-0.009148,0.009281,0.012934,0.000253,0.00543,0.0023 51,-0.003718,-0.002077,0.004338,0.001928,-0.001892
Spanish,0.1167516,0.1468214,0.0423019,0.0004833,0. 0449001,-0.0013727,-0.001644,0.0018936,0.0233905,0.0323268,-0.0032129,0.0079422,-0.0151961,-0.0126213,0.0096531,0.0005964,-0.0027105,-0.0000932,-0.0020745,-0.0016142,0.0037468,-0.000729,-0.002501,-0.0030021,0.000449



Share what you get.

My result:


Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 2.0870% / 0.02087025 | ADC: 0.5x RC
36.0 German
33.0 Nordic
31.0 Celtic

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 1.9086% / 0.01908560 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.8 Celtic
39.6 Nordic
14.8 Slavic_Southeast
1.8 Slavic_West

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 1.9086% / 0.01908560
43.8 Celtic
39.6 Nordic
14.8 Slavic_Southeast
1.8 Slavic_West
Dorquest
12-20-2025, 03:57 PM
Distance to: Dorquest_scaled
0.03159002 German
0.03342669 Celtic
0.04874771 French
0.04890473 Nordic
0.06467989 Slavic_West
0.06550260 Slavic_South
0.06812159 Spanish
0.07081959 Basque
0.07597062 Slavic_Southeast
0.08708872 Slavic_East
0.09595822 Italian
0.10629764 Slavic_North
0.11797168 Greek


Target: Dorquest_scaled
Distance: 2.8470% / 0.02847015
49.6 Celtic
37.6 German
7.2 Spanish
2.2 Basque
1.8 Italian
1.6 Slavic_North
cass
12-20-2025, 04:23 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 0.9214% / 0.00921442
48.4 German
39.8 Slavic_North
5.4 Slavic_Southeast
3.6 French
1.6 Greek
0.8 Basque
0.4 Celtic

I don’t believe that.
Dušan
12-20-2025, 04:54 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.6200% / 0.02619956
64.4 Slavic_Southeast
24.4 Slavic_North
11.2 Slavic_South
Dušan
12-20-2025, 04:55 PM
Distance to: Slavic_West
0.00000000 Slovakian
0.02071145 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02127463 Polish_Silesian
0.02154095 Moldovan_o
0.02266246 Czech

Distance to: Slavic_Southeast
0.00000000 Bulgarian
0.00948611 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.01380090 Romanian
0.01457363 Macedonian
0.01498766 Pomak_Danubian_Plain

Distance to: Slavic_South :confused:
0.00000000 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada
0.02421507 Italian_Northeast
0.02824217 Italian_Veneto
0.02893259 French_Provence
0.02911943 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige

Distance to: Slavic_North
0.00000000 Latvian
0.00915095 Lithuanian_SZ
0.01236908 Lithuanian_PZ
0.01580534 Lithuanian_RA
0.01707067 Lithuanian_VZ

Distance to: Slavic_East
0.00000000 Russian_Tver
0.01260865 Russian_Ryazan
0.01472717 Russian_Kursk
0.01766757 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.01775320 Russian_Orel
ScandinavianCelt
12-20-2025, 05:56 PM
Distance to: Slavic_West
0.00000000 Slovakian
0.02071145 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02127463 Polish_Silesian
0.02154095 Moldovan_o
0.02266246 Czech

Distance to: Slavic_Southeast
0.00000000 Bulgarian
0.00948611 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.01380090 Romanian
0.01457363 Macedonian
0.01498766 Pomak_Danubian_Plain

Distance to: Slavic_South :confused:
0.00000000 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada
0.02421507 Italian_Northeast
0.02824217 Italian_Veneto
0.02893259 French_Provence
0.02911943 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige

Distance to: Slavic_North
0.00000000 Latvian
0.00915095 Lithuanian_SZ
0.01236908 Lithuanian_PZ
0.01580534 Lithuanian_RA
0.01707067 Lithuanian_VZ

Distance to: Slavic_East
0.00000000 Russian_Tver
0.01260865 Russian_Ryazan
0.01472717 Russian_Kursk
0.01766757 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.01775320 Russian_Orel


I removed that "South"
tk'es
12-20-2025, 06:02 PM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 3.5640% / 0.03564007
84.2 NorthCaucasus
14.4 Celtic
1.4 Caucasus
ScandinavianCelt
12-20-2025, 06:03 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 0.9214% / 0.00921442
48.4 German
39.8 Slavic_North
5.4 Slavic_Southeast
3.6 French
1.6 Greek
0.8 Basque
0.4 Celtic

I don’t believe that.

try again; removed error

Target: Polish
Distance: 0.5341% / 0.00534134
57.8 Slavic_North
19.0 German
16.4 Slavic_Southeast
4.4 Italy
1.4 Basque
0.6 Spain
0.4 Slavic_East

Target: Polish_Silesian
Distance: 1.7127% / 0.01712702
31.6 Slavic_West
31.4 German
20.8 Slavic_East
12.2 Slavic_North
3.0 Italy
1.0 Slavic_Southeast

Target: Polish_Kashubian
Distance: 1.2248% / 0.01224775
54.6 Slavic_North
44.4 German
0.6 Greece
0.4 Slavic_Southeast
Dušan
12-20-2025, 06:08 PM
I removed that "South"

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.6430% / 0.02642956
72.6 Slavic_Southeast
24.0 Slavic_North
3.4 Basque
ScandinavianCelt
12-20-2025, 06:17 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 0.9214% / 0.00921442
48.4 German
39.8 Slavic_North
5.4 Slavic_Southeast
3.6 French
1.6 Greek
0.8 Basque
0.4 Celtic

I don’t believe that.

You are polish so take it closer to you a quarter distance or half a distance and what happens?
djipon
12-20-2025, 06:18 PM
Target: djipon_SuperKit(AncestryDNA+MyHeritage)_scaled
Distance: 1.8977% / 0.01897682 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.2 Slavic_Southeast
28.2 Greek
7.6 Nordic

Target: dad_scaled
Distance: 1.9655% / 0.01965538 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.6 Slavic_Southeast
37.4 Greek
15.0 German

Target: mom_scaled
Distance: 2.5938% / 0.02593815 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.0 Greek
36.0 Slavic_East
Not a Cop
12-20-2025, 06:23 PM
I would use Kaluga instead of Tver for East Slavic, Tver sample is admixed with Tver karelians.


Distance: 1.4360% / 0.01436001
79.8 Slavic_East
17.0 Nordic
3.2 Slavic_North
cass
12-20-2025, 06:42 PM
You are polish so take it closer to you a quarter distance or half a distance and what happens?

Target: cass
Distance: 1.0151% / 0.01015106 | ADC: 0.5x RC
59.2 German
32.8 Slavic_North
8.0 Slavic_West

Target: cass
Distance: 1.0102% / 0.01010181 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.6 German
30.8 Slavic_North
5.4 Slavic_West
4.2 Slavic_East

Target: cass
Distance: 0.9212% / 0.00921184
48.2 German
39.6 Slavic_North
6.0 Slavic_Southeast
5.0 French
1.0 Greek
0.2 Celtic

You had to use the East Germans too heavily.
ScandinavianCelt
12-20-2025, 08:46 PM
I would use Kaluga instead of Tver for East Slavic, Tver sample is admixed with Tver karelians.


Distance: 1.4360% / 0.01436001
79.8 Slavic_East
17.0 Nordic
3.2 Slavic_North

If you put Kaluga in, do these results change much?
gixajo
12-20-2025, 09:29 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6351% / 0.01635133
75.4 Spanish
20.6 Basque
3.8 Slavic_Southeast
0.2 German

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.2431% / 0.02243125
86.0 Spanish
14.0 Italian

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.6827% / 0.01682653
45.2 Spanish
44.0 Basque
8.4 Celtic
2.4 Nordic

Target: gixajo_enana_scaled
Distance: 3.0637% / 0.03063738
51.4 Basque
48.6 Spanish
celticdragongod
12-20-2025, 10:16 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01849190 Celtic
0.02902554 German
0.03440532 Nordic
0.05516741 French
0.05821119 Slavic_West
0.07738604 Spanish
0.07811594 Basque
0.08049500 Slavic_East
0.08331752 Slavic_Southeast
0.09926720 Slavic_North
0.10635135 Italian
0.12806776 Greek

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.7109% / 0.01710917
81.2 Celtic
14.4 German
3.8 Slavic_North
0.6 Nordic
17571imre
12-21-2025, 12:32 AM
Target: MH_scaled
Distance: 1.1754% / 0.01175398
38.0 Slavic_Southeast
23.2 Spanish
15.0 Slavic_West
14.0 Slavic_North
5.4 Celtic
3.4 Italian
1.0 Slavic_East
Gannicus
12-21-2025, 01:33 AM
Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02636138 Celtic
0.03247791 German
0.04033177 French
0.04961524 Nordic
0.06089279 Spanish
0.06218956 Basque
0.06730970 Slavic_West
0.07749595 Slavic_Southeast
0.09246510 Italian
0.09720004 Slavic_East
0.11673930 Greek
0.11805773 Slavic_North


Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0199% / 0.01990353 | ADC: 0.5x RC
67.0 Celtic
33.0 French

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0198% / 0.01977903 | ADC: 0.25x RC
73.6 Celtic
16.2 Spanish
10.2 French

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0198% / 0.01976629
77.2 Celtic
12.5 Spanish
5.7 Basque
4.3 Italian
0.3 French

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.01980147 76.80% Celtic + 23.20% Spanish
0.01990353 67.00% Celtic + 33.00% French
0.02105534 21.40% Basque + 78.60% Celtic
0.02120625 85.20% Celtic + 14.80% Italian
0.02260968 89.40% Celtic + 10.60% Greek
0.02411711 87.40% Celtic + 12.60% Slavic_Southeast
0.02500917 71.40% Celtic + 28.60% German
0.02634033 58.00% French + 42.00% Nordic
0.02846409 57.00% Nordic + 43.00% Spanish
0.02908766 42.20% Basque + 57.80% Nordic
0.02912856 20.80% Basque + 79.20% German
0.02977289 32.20% French + 67.80% German
0.03064390 83.00% German + 17.00% Spanish
0.03385743 29.60% Italian + 70.40% Nordic
0.03579323 85.80% French + 14.20% Slavic_North
0.03635727 76.40% French + 23.60% Slavic_West
0.03637472 83.80% French + 16.20% Slavic_East
0.03861849 22.00% Greek + 78.00% Nordic
0.04028019 53.20% Basque + 46.80% Slavic_West
0.04207110 71.20% Nordic + 28.80% Slavic_Southeast
0.04253128 65.80% Basque + 34.20% Slavic_East
0.04345624 45.40% Slavic_West + 54.60% Spanish
0.04466465 27.40% Slavic_North + 72.60% Spanish
0.04476239 71.60% Basque + 28.40% Slavic_North
0.04535464 32.00% Slavic_East + 68.00% Spanish
ScandinavianCelt
12-21-2025, 01:58 PM
Try/add this sample if you have Native American &/or Siberian:

NativeAmerican_&_Siberian,0.079676,-0.023357,0.037335,0.186695,-0.070475,0.046575,-0.047472,-0.054921,-0.020452,-0.06925,0.028743,-0.010041,0.015907,-0.044865,0.017372,0.023071,-0.007302,0.00228,-0.00352,-0.00025,-0.028699,0.00371,0.011832,-0.006989,-0.002155




My % seem to adjust to proper numbers:

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 2.0870% / 0.02087025 | ADC: 1x RC
36.0 German
33.0 Nordic
31.0 Celtic

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 1.9101% / 0.01910114 | ADC: 0.5x RC
50.6 German
33.4 Celtic
12.0 Nordic
4.0 NativeAmerican_&_Siberian

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 1.8302% / 0.01830162 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.0 Celtic
23.2 Nordic
13.8 Slavic_Southeast
6.6 Slavic_West
2.4 NativeAmerican_&_Siberian
Kowalski
12-21-2025, 01:59 PM
Distance to: Repent:RealG25_scaled
0.03827525 Slavic_West
0.03831926 Slavic_East
0.05890634 German
0.05954736 Nordic
0.06850208 Slavic_North
0.07150393 Slavic_Southeast
0.07788844 Celtic
0.08810068 French
0.10581490 Spanish
0.11420447 Italian
0.11597704 Basque
0.12335069 Greek

Target: Repent:RealG25_scaled
Distance: 2.1740% / 0.02174002
69.8 Slavic_East
27.4 Slavic_Southeast
2.8 Greek
Not a Cop
12-21-2025, 05:25 PM
If you put Kaluga in, do these results change much?

Not much Distance: 2.2490% / 0.02249037
76.6 Russian_Kaluga
23.4 Nordic
RyoHazuki
12-21-2025, 07:06 PM
Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 3.2771% / 0.03277091
69.4 Celtic
13.6 Spanish
8.0 Nordic
5.6 German
3.4 Italian

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 0.9323% / 0.00932270
38.6 Celtic
31.8 German
20.8 Basque
5.4 Slavic_North
3.4 Spanish
ScandinavianCelt
12-21-2025, 08:43 PM
Not much Distance: 2.2490% / 0.02249037
76.6 Russian_Kaluga
23.4 Nordic

Don't forget, we share DNA. I just checked my file...

57.3 cM
4539 SNPs
bc76
12-22-2025, 12:09 PM
Target: bc76_exploreyourdna_simulated_scaled
Distance: 0.6704% / 0.00670426
54.0 Celtic
17.6 Basque
13.4 Slavic_West
6.8 Slavic_North
6.0 German
2.2 Nordic

Distance to: bc76_exploreyourdna_simulated_scaled
0.01663948 German
0.01955267 Celtic
0.03319824 Nordic
0.04414249 French
0.04854602 Slavic_West
0.06704412 Spanish
0.06734829 Basque
0.07503480 Slavic_Southeast
0.07686251 Slavic_East
0.09601572 Slavic_North
0.09938021 Italian
0.12215916 Greek
AnthrogenicaRefugee
12-22-2025, 12:23 PM
https://i.imgur.com/PijhSzP.png


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Distance to:
Dorkymon:Merged


0.03747036
Slavic_Southeast


0.04334777
Slavic_West


0.04789206
German


0.06181947
French


0.06715303
Nordic


0.06919901
Slavic_East


0.07137381
Celtic


0.07627663
Spanish


0.07840261
Italian


0.08871758
Greek


0.09301799
Basque


0.10091337
Slavic_North


</tbody>
bc76
12-26-2025, 04:48 AM
Non simulated

Target: bc76
Distance: 1.5739% / 0.01573891
77.2 Celtic
11.8 Basque
11.0 Slavic_North

Distance to: bc76
0.01904246 Celtic
0.03026665 German
0.03506340 Nordic
0.05392034 French
0.05899371 Slavic_West
0.07316487 Basque
0.07583728 Spanish
0.08125163 Slavic_East
0.08581152 Slavic_Southeast
0.09788686 Slavic_North
0.10887337 Italian
0.13162256 Greek
noricum
12-30-2025, 07:36 AM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.5106% / 0.02510615 | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.2 German
26.0 Slavic_Southeast
21.8 Slavic_North
Figaro
12-30-2025, 05:42 PM
Distance to: Figaro
0.02289413 German
0.03738185 Slavic_West
0.03741874 Nordic
0.03956629 Celtic
0.05332272 French
0.06135898 Slavic_East
0.06374788 Slavic_Southeast
0.07371787 Spanish
0.08144977 Basque
0.08611676 Slavic_North
0.09545980 Italian
0.11362086 Greek

Target: Figaro
Distance: 1.6502% / 0.01650208
35.8 Celtic
29.6 Slavic_East
14.4 Italian
10.0 Spanish
7.6 Slavic_North
2.6 German

Target: Figaro
Distance: 1.8068% / 0.01806811 | ADC: 0.5x RC
80.6 German
19.4 Slavic_East
JerryS.
01-04-2026, 03:23 PM
Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7487% / 0.01748717
70.6 Celtic
14.2 Slavic_West
11.6 Italian
3.6 Spanish


Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.8090% / 0.01809019 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.2 Celtic
32.4 German
9.4 Italian
Fabricius
01-05-2026, 09:09 PM
Target: Fabricius_K13-G25
Distance: 5.7397% / 0.05739684
71.4 Spanish
15.2 Slavic_East
13.4 Greek

Target: Fabricius_K15-G25
Distance: 5.8607% / 0.05860727
72.4 Spanish
15.0 Slavic_East
12.6 Greek

Target: Fabricius_K36-G25
Distance: 5.7933% / 0.05793305
71.2 Spanish
18.6 Greek
10.2 Slavic_East

Target: Fabricius_MyHeritage-to-g25(simulated)
Distance: 5.7237% / 0.05723741
63.4 Spanish
23.2 Greek
13.4 Slavic_East