Where do you genetically plot vs. ancestry?

[Figaro]

Just a dumb little exercise- where do you plot vs ancestry? Are you an outlier at all (if primarily descended from mainly or totally from one ethnic group) or if more mixed, does your plotting make logical sense? As a primarily NW/NE Euro Amerimutt with primarily German, Irish, Danish and Polish descent (and 1/32 AJ as well) I plot basically somewhere between East Germans-Austrians-Czechs which is not so surprising.

[Xavier727]

On PCA I plot closer to Danes and Norwegians, with English right behind. I’m English by ancestry, mostly from SE England (Kent, Sussex, Norfolk), so it makes sense given that there's a higher Germanic/North Sea input within those regions. It seems to make sense overall.

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[gixajo]

Me and my parents. Just my father is fully representative of his origin, but to be fair we have no real "Álava" samples, just "Basque speakers from Álava"taken from a single 2500 people Basque speakers valley that is just a 2% of the native population of this province. The real Álava province average would probably be more similar to Burgos North or Western Biscay people. Anyway here I used just Basque Spanish samples, not Basque Araba references.

https://i.imgur.com/FvMusRM.png

References:


Spanish_Andalucia:AND10,0.10927,0.139128,0.033941, 0.001938,0.041546,0.004462,0.003525,0.002308,0.034 155,0.038087,0.001461,0.018434,-0.016947,-0.012937,0.004343,0.001458,-0.01343,-0.00266,-0.002388,0.003252,0.001497,-0.003339,0.000863,-0.007109,-0.004191
Spanish_Andalucia:AND14,0.108132,0.147252,0.032432 ,-0.004199,0.050779,-0.011435,-0.00141,-0.006,0.027202,0.025331,-0.001949,0.007343,-0.016055,-0.009221,0.014251,-0.002652,-0.000261,-0.003927,-0.006285,0.003001,0,-0.005193,0.006655,-0.00012,0.002155
Spanish_Andalucia:AND18,0.111547,0.144205,0.048649 ,-0.004845,0.037545,0,-0.00047,0.011999,0.027406,0.038999,-0.003735,0.007793,-0.019029,-0.012248,0.008822,0.006099,-0.005346,-0.004941,0.003017,0.001251,-0.001622,0.004451,-0.003081,-0.00494,0.003113
Spanish_Andalucia:AND2,0.100164,0.144205,0.036204, 0.002261,0.049548,-0.008646,-0.00564,0.002538,0.029656,0.023873,0.002761,0.0041 96,-0.003865,-0.006881,0.014522,-0.008486,-0.014473,0.005701,-0.007919,0.001751,0.011605,-0.005193,-0.003451,-0.002289,0.004071
Spanish_Andalucia:AND33,0.113823,0.149283,0.035826 ,-0.000646,0.048624,-0.00251,0.000235,0.004846,0.02127,0.03827,-0.002111,0.005095,-0.015907,-0.014863,0.0057,0.004773,-0.000522,0.005194,-0.003017,-0.000875,0.006239,0.006183,-0.010599,-0.007591,0.006706
Spanish_Andalucia:AND36,0.105855,0.140143,0.033941 ,-0.00646,0.047086,-0.013945,-0.000705,0.002769,0.033542,0.031162,-0.001786,0.002997,-0.013231,-0.005918,0.005836,-0.013126,-0.012517,-0.002154,-0.003268,-0.005503,0.001248,-0.00272,-0.008627,-0.000241,0.005508
Spanish_Andalucia:AND39,0.110408,0.145221,0.038843 ,-0.000969,0.036007,-0.002789,-0.00282,0.001846,0.012271,0.023326,-0.002436,0.007343,-0.009514,-0.013625,0.013029,0.006629,0.019166,-0.00152,0.004274,-5e-04,0.000499,-0.003215,-0.001972,-0.009037,0.005628
Spanish_Andalucia:AND4,0.110408,0.148267,0.042238,-0.000646,0.050163,-0.009203,-0.00423,0.000462,0.031497,0.036629,0.001624,0.0098 91,-0.012785,-0.003578,0.005429,-0.003845,-0.01682,-0.000633,-0.003142,-0.002626,0.007612,-0.000495,-0.000863,-0.013255,0.002395
Spanish_Andalucia:AND43,0.110408,0.146236,0.041483 ,-0.001938,0.044008,-0.01506,0.005405,0.004846,0.021884,0.026971,0.0001 62,0.003897,-0.017839,-0.012386,0.008279,-0.000133,-0.004955,0.003801,0.003897,0.004127,0.011854,0.002 102,0.000616,-0.008435,0.001916
Spanish_Andalucia:AND46,0.114961,0.147252,0.037712 ,-0.00323,0.051702,0.001673,-0.00705,-0.004154,0.017998,0.027882,-0.004709,0.010491,-0.012339,-0.008395,0.021715,-0.008353,-0.015385,-0.003421,-0.007793,-0.011881,0.000998,0.000866,0.00037,-0.010001,-0.001197
Spanish_Andalucia:AND7,0.111547,0.145221,0.027153,-0.015181,0.043085,-0.008088,-0.00799,-0.001385,0.02168,0.033714,-0.008282,0.006294,-0.001635,-0.01156,0.007736,0.005701,0.00665,0,-0.005908,-0.008879,-0.000749,-0.003586,0.00456,0.001205,-0.001916
Spanish_Andalucia:AND75,0.108132,0.144205,0.02753,-0.005814,0.053856,-0.01255,-0.00047,0.004154,0.024747,0.035354,-0.003248,0.005245,-0.010406,-0.02202,0.013979,0.007955,0.011474,-0.007855,-0.01433,0.004502,0.00025,-0.005317,-0.00912,0.001928,0.002754
Spanish_Andalucia:AND77,0.097888,0.150298,0.037335 ,-0.003553,0.044931,-0.00753,-0.003995,0.010384,0.032519,0.03098,-0.001137,0.011839,-0.012933,-0.007432,0.010993,-0.007292,-0.022296,-0.002407,-0.016089,-0.009004,0.002246,-0.001113,-0.001479,-0.002048,-0.005389
Spanish_Andalucia:AND80,0.101303,0.140143,0.032432 ,0.000323,0.044931,-0.004462,-0.00846,0.004154,0.026179,0.033167,-0.005196,0.002698,-0.013528,-0.013349,0.019544,-0.000663,-0.012517,-0.004941,-0.007165,-0.006628,-0.005989,-0.005688,-0.005793,-0.010363,0.008981
Spanish_Andalucia:AND84,0.108132,0.144205,0.036958 ,-0.006137,0.054779,-0.006693,-0.00047,0.004154,0.024952,0.028064,0,0.004646,-0.015163,-0.001927,0.007193,-0.011403,-0.012647,-0.001267,-0.005656,0.003377,0.002371,0.000371,-0.001232,-0.007953,0.005748
Spanish_Andalucia:AND86,0.103579,0.151314,0.030924 ,-0.001938,0.031083,-0.001952,0.000705,0.006923,0.025975,0.029522,-0.002273,0.01169,-0.017096,-0.013762,0.012758,-0.010607,-0.014864,0.0019,-0.002137,-0.002501,0.006114,0.000495,-0.000863,-0.008676,0.000599
Spanish_Andalucia:HG01619,0.113823,0.149283,0.0275 3,0.001615,0.040623,-0.001673,-0.00141,0.002538,0.016975,0.033896,-0.003573,0.007343,-0.019177,-0.013212,0.00855,0.001193,0.002086,0.001394,-0.000628,-0.006753,0.004367,-0.000618,0.002588,-0.00253,0.005149
Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620,0.110408,0.147252,0.0403 52,-0.007429,0.042777,-0.004183,0.00047,0.001846,0.016771,0.024602,-0.003248,0.004046,-0.009663,-0.018029,0.009093,-0.01074,-0.01369,-0.003421,-0.004777,-0.008754,0.005865,-0.001237,-0.00456,-0.006627,-0.002036
Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623,0.104717,0.152329,0.0369 58,-0.008398,0.046778,-0.006693,-0.00188,-0.003692,0.022907,0.032256,-0.003248,0.006894,-0.013825,-0.015414,0.00285,-0.003978,0.002999,0.000253,-0.001634,0.002126,0.001248,-0.001484,-0.001479,-0.003253,-0.004191
Basque_Spanish:BAS100,0.114961,0.153345,0.047517,0 .003876,0.060319,0.001116,-0.000705,0.004384,0.032519,0.045012,-0.002761,0.011839,-0.02438,-0.017478,0.018322,-0.005701,-0.018906,0.001774,-0.002137,-0.007879,0.010981,0.005812,-0.014913,-0.011929,0.004071
Basque_Spanish:BAS102,0.129758,0.148267,0.051288,-0.000323,0.053548,0.003347,0.00047,-0.002308,0.026997,0.042825,0.000974,0.011989,-0.024678,-0.018029,0.011536,-0.012463,-0.018775,0.007475,-0.003394,-0.009004,0.007612,0.001484,-0.003081,0.003374,-0.003353
Basque_Spanish:BAS104,0.125205,0.140143,0.059962,0 .013243,0.051394,0.000558,0.00188,-0.007846,0.034565,0.02934,-0.006008,0.01079,-0.026462,-0.016102,0.011129,-0.004906,-0.008605,0.000507,-0.005028,-0.008129,0.012104,-0.000124,-0.002465,-0.009881,-0.000239
Basque_Spanish:BAS106,0.12862,0.147252,0.050911,0. 002907,0.05601,0.005299,-0.00282,0.007615,0.033133,0.054853,-0.012829,0.009591,-0.033895,-0.023809,0.017508,0.006099,0.00691,-0.001014,0.000377,-0.002751,0.011355,0.008408,-0.005053,-0.003856,0.001916
Basque_Spanish:BAS111,0.133173,0.144205,0.064488,0 .00969,0.055703,-0.000837,-0.007755,-0.006231,0.02577,0.041003,-0.006658,0.01169,-0.023191,-0.015964,0.015879,0.012861,-0.001434,0.004814,0.003268,0.010005,-0.001622,-0.002968,-0.010846,-0.010122,0.002754
Basque_Spanish:BAS112,0.135449,0.148267,0.052043,0 .011951,0.045239,0.001394,0.005405,0.003231,0.0245 43,0.036629,-0.013641,0.002248,-0.026908,-0.019955,0.017779,0.016706,0.001434,0.004054,-0.006411,-0.001501,0.001497,-0.003339,-0.003328,0.001084,-0.001437
Basque_Spanish:BAS21,0.127482,0.157407,0.051666,-0.002584,0.048009,0.005299,-0.00047,0.000923,0.032519,0.044648,-0.000974,0.013488,-0.017245,-0.007569,0.018051,-0.010607,-0.016428,0.00038,0.000503,-0.003877,0.017594,-0.000371,-0.006655,-0.008676,-0.005029
Basque_Spanish:BAS22,0.132035,0.146236,0.059585,0. 008075,0.060934,0.008367,0.003995,-0.006231,0.026997,0.047564,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.018285,-0.019542,0.011401,0.00769,0.001434,0.014569,-0.004022,0.006128,0.012977,-0.003586,-0.007765,-0.004217,0.004071
Basque_Spanish:BAS23,0.122929,0.149283,0.065242,0. 006137,0.052317,0.001394,-0.000705,0.002308,0.026997,0.044283,-0.009256,0.014837,-0.024232,-0.015276,0.004614,-0.002254,0.000913,0.001267,-0.007919,-0.007379,0.006239,0.006801,-0.005423,-0.011086,0.002634
Basque_Spanish:BAS25,0.134311,0.15436,0.056945,0.0 0646,0.056934,-0.002789,-0.002585,-0.003231,0.032928,0.046288,-0.012666,0.008542,-0.025718,-0.026424,0.011943,-0.000398,-0.01343,0.001394,-0.001131,0.004252,0.006988,-0.005564,-0.012448,-0.006868,0.005868
Basque_Spanish:BAS27,0.126344,0.148267,0.059962,0. 006137,0.059088,-0.000837,-0.0047,0.003231,0.032315,0.049933,-0.001461,0.009591,-0.02557,-0.028626,0.015608,0.008618,0.001434,0.000633,0.003 142,0.002626,0.012478,0.005935,0.000246,-0.004217,0.000599
Basque_Spanish:BAS28,0.133173,0.151314,0.058831,0. 01615,0.056318,0.001952,0.000235,-0.003692,0.030679,0.039363,-0.001786,0.016036,-0.026313,-0.016102,0.021715,-0.002784,-0.012386,-0.005954,-0.001006,0.002751,0.005241,0.00779,-0.006409,-0.013255,0.006586
Basque_Spanish:BAS30,0.129758,0.141159,0.061471,0. 005814,0.06432,0.006136,-0.011516,0.003923,0.035178,0.042643,0.005196,0.013 488,-0.01888,-0.023946,0.021851,-0.002387,-0.01682,0.008361,-0.000628,-0.002376,0.004243,0,-0.006286,-0.015183,0.003712
Basque_Spanish:BAS31,0.133173,0.149283,0.058077,0. 011305,0.055395,-0.008088,-0.002585,0.002077,0.033542,0.046835,-0.009094,0.006894,-0.028543,-0.014863,0.022937,0.009281,0.000652,0.000127,-0.002011,-0.00025,0.005989,0.006925,-0.003697,-0.005663,0.000479
Basque_Spanish:BAS32,0.137726,0.153345,0.053551,0. 009044,0.059088,-0.003068,0.001175,0.003923,0.030679,0.04483,0.0008 12,0.01169,-0.019326,-0.021744,0.016015,0.015778,0.009779,-0.00228,-0.010684,0.001126,0.003743,0.001731,-0.012941,-0.008676,0.002036
Basque_Spanish:BAS33,0.126344,0.15436,0.058077,-0.000646,0.062781,-0.000837,-0.00094,0,0.02577,0.051755,-0.008931,0.012589,-0.016799,-0.007707,0.020494,0.001724,-0.007302,0.004181,-0.002388,-0.010505,0.015223,0.00779,-0.007395,-0.011447,0.002754
Basque_Spanish:BAS35,0.133173,0.152329,0.061094,0. 016796,0.053241,0.000279,-0.010575,0.005307,0.030065,0.040821,-0.005846,0.014687,-0.026164,-0.013625,0.020629,-0.002917,-0.009518,0.001774,-0.000251,-0.003877,0.017095,0.002349,-0.006532,-0.015062,-0.002155
Basque_Spanish:BAS44,0.125205,0.149283,0.059208,0. 018411,0.060011,-0.006693,-0.00282,0.000692,0.037837,0.041732,0.00341,0.00959 1,-0.032259,-0.024634,0.015336,0.009944,-0.014733,0.005574,-0.001383,-0.001876,0.014599,0.004575,-0.002711,-0.00964,0.002874
Basque_Spanish:BAS47,0.105855,0.147252,0.056191,0. 005168,0.058165,-0.003904,-0.005405,0.001846,0.023111,0.039727,-0.01494,0.008093,-0.02334,-0.017065,0.0057,-0.007425,-0.009779,0.010642,0.005279,-0.002376,0.014599,0.002844,-0.007765,-0.005904,-0.002754
Basque_Spanish:BAS54,0.126344,0.148267,0.055814,0. 01292,0.057549,-0.00753,0.00329,0,0.03436,0.049386,-0.001299,0.012889,-0.029435,-0.02257,0.010722,0.00305,0.003651,0.000507,-0.00176,-0.007128,0.011854,-0.00272,-0.001972,-0.019762,-0.008622
Basque_Spanish:BAS62,0.126344,0.136081,0.057322,0. 003876,0.056626,0.005578,0.003525,0.001385,0.02249 8,0.039181,-0.005521,0.011989,-0.027651,-0.018717,0.017644,0.007558,0.000522,0.007221,-0.005531,-0.001,0.007861,0.00371,-0.008011,-0.010001,0.000718
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Basque_Spanish:BAS80,0.10927,0.144205,0.048271,0.0 05814,0.047701,-0.00251,-0.00423,-0.007154,0.023929,0.048293,-0.004384,0.017834,-0.040882,-0.020093,0.018729,-0.00411,-0.018515,0.005954,-0.000754,-0.00025,-0.002745,0.002226,-0.00949,-0.010363,0.000239
Basque_Spanish:BAS81,0.133173,0.156392,0.050157,0. 011951,0.056318,-0.001673,0.000235,0.004384,0.030065,0.035718,-0.009743,0.009741,-0.017988,-0.026836,0.011129,0.014054,-0.00326,0.002534,-0.003268,-0.000125,0.005366,0.006801,-0.007888,-0.008435,-0.007424
Basque_Spanish:BAS87,0.121791,0.142174,0.04978,0.0 09044,0.055395,-0.008367,0.00141,-0.001846,0.030474,0.035172,-0.009906,0.006894,-0.023042,-0.026424,0.008415,0.001591,-0.001304,0.009755,0,-0.002876,0.008485,0.004699,-0.009367,-0.008073,-0.001437
Basque_Spanish:BAS90,0.1161,0.151314,0.046009,0.00 9367,0.055395,0.007251,-0.007755,-0.005077,0.026179,0.042097,-0.003897,0.01139,-0.015015,-0.012937,0.015744,0.006364,-0.007171,0.005574,-0.008045,-0.003627,0.01148,-0.005317,-0.003944,-0.00735,0.006826
Basque_Spanish:BAS94,0.129758,0.150298,0.054305,0. 010659,0.056626,0.000837,0.00188,0.002538,0.030065 ,0.042097,-0.001299,0.002698,-0.020961,-0.029038,0.018187,0.018563,0.011213,0.00266,-0.002891,0.004502,0.013227,-0.004575,-0.004807,-0.007953,0.006586
Basque_Spanish:BAS97,0.125205,0.148267,0.058454,0. 022287,0.049855,0.004183,0.002115,-0.002077,0.028224,0.051937,-0.005196,0.017984,-0.036125,-0.021744,0.020087,0.000663,0.004172,0.000507,-0.003645,-0.001251,0.005241,0.006925,-0.002588,-0.00494,0.006706
Basque_Spanish:HG01515,0.132035,0.148267,0.056945, 0.006137,0.050471,0.003626,0.003055,0.003923,0.029 042,0.037905,-0.006171,0.009591,-0.015758,-0.013212,0.017508,0.002917,-0.004303,0.004307,0.001508,-0.001126,0.007986,-0.001237,-0.00986,-0.008435,0.006706
Basque_Spanish:HG01516,0.126344,0.155376,0.057322, 0.011628,0.054779,-0.00251,-0.001645,0.001615,0.029451,0.040821,-0.012342,0.007044,-0.023934,-0.013074,0.020901,-0.004508,-0.018906,0.003674,0.001634,-0.007629,0.008859,-0.001237,-0.007518,-0.008676,0.002634
Basque_Spanish:HG01518,0.126344,0.151314,0.054682, 0.00646,0.051086,0.006136,-0.000705,0.003231,0.024747,0.040821,0.000812,0.011 39,-0.023488,-0.009909,0.016829,-0.005834,-0.013821,0.000633,0.00352,-0.011005,0.006364,-0.004822,-0.002218,-0.003133,0.001676

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.3521% / 0.01352060
59.6 Spanish_Andalucia
40.4 Basque_Spanish

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.5513% / 0.01551327
80.0 Spanish_Andalucia
20.0 Basque_Spanish

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.3259% / 0.01325896
71.8 Basque_Spanish
28.2 Spanish_Andalucia




Distance list:

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.02663962 Spanish_Andalucia:AND33
0.02987994 Basque_Spanish:HG01515
0.02988602 Spanish_Andalucia:AND18
0.03031180 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623
0.03049822 Spanish_Andalucia:AND14
0.03059500 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01619
0.03061794 Spanish_Andalucia:AND4
0.03090504 Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
0.03154868 Basque_Spanish:BAS90
0.03175366 Spanish_Andalucia:AND84
0.03197874 Spanish_Andalucia:AND43
0.03216622 Spanish_Andalucia:AND10
0.03344292 Basque_Spanish:HG01518
0.03409314 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620
0.03413126 Basque_Spanish:BAS87
0.03521565 Basque_Spanish:BAS81
0.03591807 Basque_Spanish:BAS62
0.03631974 Spanish_Andalucia:AND80
0.03673461 Spanish_Andalucia:AND86
0.03677806 Basque_Spanish:BAS21
0.03692159 Basque_Spanish:BAS112
0.03741940 Spanish_Andalucia:AND36
0.03745594 Basque_Spanish:BAS23
0.03753128 Basque_Spanish:HG01516
0.03781654 Basque_Spanish:BAS31

Distance to: gixajo_dad_scaled
0.02079010 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623
0.02779229 Spanish_Andalucia:AND33
0.02831411 Spanish_Andalucia:AND14
0.02859915 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01619
0.03004852 Spanish_Andalucia:AND18
0.03080522 Spanish_Andalucia:AND4
0.03129531 Spanish_Andalucia:AND84
0.03133044 Spanish_Andalucia:AND36
0.03239604 Spanish_Andalucia:AND7
0.03265531 Spanish_Andalucia:AND80
0.03291239 Spanish_Andalucia:AND10
0.03310736 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620
0.03341398 Spanish_Andalucia:AND86
0.03432788 Spanish_Andalucia:AND43
0.03471371 Spanish_Andalucia:AND77
0.03506171 Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
0.03666999 Spanish_Andalucia:AND75
0.03913074 Spanish_Andalucia:AND2
0.04032535 Basque_Spanish:BAS90
0.04046180 Spanish_Andalucia:AND39
0.04268670 Basque_Spanish:HG01518
0.04300964 Basque_Spanish:BAS87
0.04419211 Basque_Spanish:BAS102
0.04425267 Basque_Spanish:BAS80
0.04489626 Basque_Spanish:BAS47

Distance to: gixajo_mom_scaled
0.02349271 Basque_Spanish:HG01518
0.02378482 Basque_Spanish:HG01515
0.02638030 Basque_Spanish:HG01516
0.02826490 Basque_Spanish:BAS90
0.02926306 Basque_Spanish:BAS67
0.02929765 Basque_Spanish:BAS102
0.03075206 Basque_Spanish:BAS100
0.03084354 Basque_Spanish:BAS21
0.03175852 Basque_Spanish:BAS104
0.03188567 Spanish_Andalucia:AND33
0.03215102 Basque_Spanish:BAS23
0.03279079 Basque_Spanish:BAS28
0.03308275 Basque_Spanish:BAS87
0.03331989 Spanish_Andalucia:AND4
0.03368573 Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
0.03420462 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620
0.03424734 Basque_Spanish:BAS35
0.03426900 Spanish_Andalucia:AND18
0.03512395 Basque_Spanish:BAS62
0.03513622 Basque_Spanish:BAS47
0.03635979 Basque_Spanish:BAS33
0.03669043 Basque_Spanish:BAS25
0.03684869 Basque_Spanish:BAS81
0.03686973 Spanish_Andalucia:AND84
0.03757931 Spanish_Andalucia:AND43


Just averages distance lists:

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.02332982 Andalucía
0.03047783 Basque_Spanish

Distance to: gixajo_dad_scaled
0.02079118 Andalucía
0.04319372 Basque_Spanish

Distance to: gixajo_mom_scaled
0.02503620 Basque_Spanish
0.03147748 Andalucía


I think that the results, if interpreted correctly, represent reality in an acceptable way .

[Gannicus]

On PCA I plot closer to Danes and Norwegians, with English right behind. I’m English by ancestry, mostly from SE England (Kent, Sussex, Norfolk), so it makes sense given that there's a higher Germanic/North Sea input within those regions. It seems to make sense overall.

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Where is that particular PCA from? I have used the vahaduo one and it’s not very good for visibility.

[Opie]

I simply plot with Turkish maybe a bit leaning to Azerbaijan.

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[Opie]

Me and my parents. Just my father is fully representative of his origin, but to be fair we have no real "Álava" samples, just "Basque speakers from Álava"taken from a single 2500 people Basque speakers valley that is just a 2% of the native population of this province. The real Álava province average would probably be more similar to Burgos North or Western Biscay people. Anyway here I used just Basque Spanish samples, not Basque Araba references.

https://i.imgur.com/FvMusRM.png

References:


Spanish_Andalucia:AND10,0.10927,0.139128,0.033941, 0.001938,0.041546,0.004462,0.003525,0.002308,0.034 155,0.038087,0.001461,0.018434,-0.016947,-0.012937,0.004343,0.001458,-0.01343,-0.00266,-0.002388,0.003252,0.001497,-0.003339,0.000863,-0.007109,-0.004191
Spanish_Andalucia:AND14,0.108132,0.147252,0.032432 ,-0.004199,0.050779,-0.011435,-0.00141,-0.006,0.027202,0.025331,-0.001949,0.007343,-0.016055,-0.009221,0.014251,-0.002652,-0.000261,-0.003927,-0.006285,0.003001,0,-0.005193,0.006655,-0.00012,0.002155
Spanish_Andalucia:AND18,0.111547,0.144205,0.048649 ,-0.004845,0.037545,0,-0.00047,0.011999,0.027406,0.038999,-0.003735,0.007793,-0.019029,-0.012248,0.008822,0.006099,-0.005346,-0.004941,0.003017,0.001251,-0.001622,0.004451,-0.003081,-0.00494,0.003113
Spanish_Andalucia:AND2,0.100164,0.144205,0.036204, 0.002261,0.049548,-0.008646,-0.00564,0.002538,0.029656,0.023873,0.002761,0.0041 96,-0.003865,-0.006881,0.014522,-0.008486,-0.014473,0.005701,-0.007919,0.001751,0.011605,-0.005193,-0.003451,-0.002289,0.004071
Spanish_Andalucia:AND33,0.113823,0.149283,0.035826 ,-0.000646,0.048624,-0.00251,0.000235,0.004846,0.02127,0.03827,-0.002111,0.005095,-0.015907,-0.014863,0.0057,0.004773,-0.000522,0.005194,-0.003017,-0.000875,0.006239,0.006183,-0.010599,-0.007591,0.006706
Spanish_Andalucia:AND36,0.105855,0.140143,0.033941 ,-0.00646,0.047086,-0.013945,-0.000705,0.002769,0.033542,0.031162,-0.001786,0.002997,-0.013231,-0.005918,0.005836,-0.013126,-0.012517,-0.002154,-0.003268,-0.005503,0.001248,-0.00272,-0.008627,-0.000241,0.005508
Spanish_Andalucia:AND39,0.110408,0.145221,0.038843 ,-0.000969,0.036007,-0.002789,-0.00282,0.001846,0.012271,0.023326,-0.002436,0.007343,-0.009514,-0.013625,0.013029,0.006629,0.019166,-0.00152,0.004274,-5e-04,0.000499,-0.003215,-0.001972,-0.009037,0.005628
Spanish_Andalucia:AND4,0.110408,0.148267,0.042238,-0.000646,0.050163,-0.009203,-0.00423,0.000462,0.031497,0.036629,0.001624,0.0098 91,-0.012785,-0.003578,0.005429,-0.003845,-0.01682,-0.000633,-0.003142,-0.002626,0.007612,-0.000495,-0.000863,-0.013255,0.002395
Spanish_Andalucia:AND43,0.110408,0.146236,0.041483 ,-0.001938,0.044008,-0.01506,0.005405,0.004846,0.021884,0.026971,0.0001 62,0.003897,-0.017839,-0.012386,0.008279,-0.000133,-0.004955,0.003801,0.003897,0.004127,0.011854,0.002 102,0.000616,-0.008435,0.001916
Spanish_Andalucia:AND46,0.114961,0.147252,0.037712 ,-0.00323,0.051702,0.001673,-0.00705,-0.004154,0.017998,0.027882,-0.004709,0.010491,-0.012339,-0.008395,0.021715,-0.008353,-0.015385,-0.003421,-0.007793,-0.011881,0.000998,0.000866,0.00037,-0.010001,-0.001197
Spanish_Andalucia:AND7,0.111547,0.145221,0.027153,-0.015181,0.043085,-0.008088,-0.00799,-0.001385,0.02168,0.033714,-0.008282,0.006294,-0.001635,-0.01156,0.007736,0.005701,0.00665,0,-0.005908,-0.008879,-0.000749,-0.003586,0.00456,0.001205,-0.001916
Spanish_Andalucia:AND75,0.108132,0.144205,0.02753,-0.005814,0.053856,-0.01255,-0.00047,0.004154,0.024747,0.035354,-0.003248,0.005245,-0.010406,-0.02202,0.013979,0.007955,0.011474,-0.007855,-0.01433,0.004502,0.00025,-0.005317,-0.00912,0.001928,0.002754
Spanish_Andalucia:AND77,0.097888,0.150298,0.037335 ,-0.003553,0.044931,-0.00753,-0.003995,0.010384,0.032519,0.03098,-0.001137,0.011839,-0.012933,-0.007432,0.010993,-0.007292,-0.022296,-0.002407,-0.016089,-0.009004,0.002246,-0.001113,-0.001479,-0.002048,-0.005389
Spanish_Andalucia:AND80,0.101303,0.140143,0.032432 ,0.000323,0.044931,-0.004462,-0.00846,0.004154,0.026179,0.033167,-0.005196,0.002698,-0.013528,-0.013349,0.019544,-0.000663,-0.012517,-0.004941,-0.007165,-0.006628,-0.005989,-0.005688,-0.005793,-0.010363,0.008981
Spanish_Andalucia:AND84,0.108132,0.144205,0.036958 ,-0.006137,0.054779,-0.006693,-0.00047,0.004154,0.024952,0.028064,0,0.004646,-0.015163,-0.001927,0.007193,-0.011403,-0.012647,-0.001267,-0.005656,0.003377,0.002371,0.000371,-0.001232,-0.007953,0.005748
Spanish_Andalucia:AND86,0.103579,0.151314,0.030924 ,-0.001938,0.031083,-0.001952,0.000705,0.006923,0.025975,0.029522,-0.002273,0.01169,-0.017096,-0.013762,0.012758,-0.010607,-0.014864,0.0019,-0.002137,-0.002501,0.006114,0.000495,-0.000863,-0.008676,0.000599
Spanish_Andalucia:HG01619,0.113823,0.149283,0.0275 3,0.001615,0.040623,-0.001673,-0.00141,0.002538,0.016975,0.033896,-0.003573,0.007343,-0.019177,-0.013212,0.00855,0.001193,0.002086,0.001394,-0.000628,-0.006753,0.004367,-0.000618,0.002588,-0.00253,0.005149
Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620,0.110408,0.147252,0.0403 52,-0.007429,0.042777,-0.004183,0.00047,0.001846,0.016771,0.024602,-0.003248,0.004046,-0.009663,-0.018029,0.009093,-0.01074,-0.01369,-0.003421,-0.004777,-0.008754,0.005865,-0.001237,-0.00456,-0.006627,-0.002036
Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623,0.104717,0.152329,0.0369 58,-0.008398,0.046778,-0.006693,-0.00188,-0.003692,0.022907,0.032256,-0.003248,0.006894,-0.013825,-0.015414,0.00285,-0.003978,0.002999,0.000253,-0.001634,0.002126,0.001248,-0.001484,-0.001479,-0.003253,-0.004191
Basque_Spanish:BAS100,0.114961,0.153345,0.047517,0 .003876,0.060319,0.001116,-0.000705,0.004384,0.032519,0.045012,-0.002761,0.011839,-0.02438,-0.017478,0.018322,-0.005701,-0.018906,0.001774,-0.002137,-0.007879,0.010981,0.005812,-0.014913,-0.011929,0.004071
Basque_Spanish:BAS102,0.129758,0.148267,0.051288,-0.000323,0.053548,0.003347,0.00047,-0.002308,0.026997,0.042825,0.000974,0.011989,-0.024678,-0.018029,0.011536,-0.012463,-0.018775,0.007475,-0.003394,-0.009004,0.007612,0.001484,-0.003081,0.003374,-0.003353
Basque_Spanish:BAS104,0.125205,0.140143,0.059962,0 .013243,0.051394,0.000558,0.00188,-0.007846,0.034565,0.02934,-0.006008,0.01079,-0.026462,-0.016102,0.011129,-0.004906,-0.008605,0.000507,-0.005028,-0.008129,0.012104,-0.000124,-0.002465,-0.009881,-0.000239
Basque_Spanish:BAS106,0.12862,0.147252,0.050911,0. 002907,0.05601,0.005299,-0.00282,0.007615,0.033133,0.054853,-0.012829,0.009591,-0.033895,-0.023809,0.017508,0.006099,0.00691,-0.001014,0.000377,-0.002751,0.011355,0.008408,-0.005053,-0.003856,0.001916
Basque_Spanish:BAS111,0.133173,0.144205,0.064488,0 .00969,0.055703,-0.000837,-0.007755,-0.006231,0.02577,0.041003,-0.006658,0.01169,-0.023191,-0.015964,0.015879,0.012861,-0.001434,0.004814,0.003268,0.010005,-0.001622,-0.002968,-0.010846,-0.010122,0.002754
Basque_Spanish:BAS112,0.135449,0.148267,0.052043,0 .011951,0.045239,0.001394,0.005405,0.003231,0.0245 43,0.036629,-0.013641,0.002248,-0.026908,-0.019955,0.017779,0.016706,0.001434,0.004054,-0.006411,-0.001501,0.001497,-0.003339,-0.003328,0.001084,-0.001437
Basque_Spanish:BAS21,0.127482,0.157407,0.051666,-0.002584,0.048009,0.005299,-0.00047,0.000923,0.032519,0.044648,-0.000974,0.013488,-0.017245,-0.007569,0.018051,-0.010607,-0.016428,0.00038,0.000503,-0.003877,0.017594,-0.000371,-0.006655,-0.008676,-0.005029
Basque_Spanish:BAS22,0.132035,0.146236,0.059585,0. 008075,0.060934,0.008367,0.003995,-0.006231,0.026997,0.047564,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.018285,-0.019542,0.011401,0.00769,0.001434,0.014569,-0.004022,0.006128,0.012977,-0.003586,-0.007765,-0.004217,0.004071
Basque_Spanish:BAS23,0.122929,0.149283,0.065242,0. 006137,0.052317,0.001394,-0.000705,0.002308,0.026997,0.044283,-0.009256,0.014837,-0.024232,-0.015276,0.004614,-0.002254,0.000913,0.001267,-0.007919,-0.007379,0.006239,0.006801,-0.005423,-0.011086,0.002634
Basque_Spanish:BAS25,0.134311,0.15436,0.056945,0.0 0646,0.056934,-0.002789,-0.002585,-0.003231,0.032928,0.046288,-0.012666,0.008542,-0.025718,-0.026424,0.011943,-0.000398,-0.01343,0.001394,-0.001131,0.004252,0.006988,-0.005564,-0.012448,-0.006868,0.005868
Basque_Spanish:BAS27,0.126344,0.148267,0.059962,0. 006137,0.059088,-0.000837,-0.0047,0.003231,0.032315,0.049933,-0.001461,0.009591,-0.02557,-0.028626,0.015608,0.008618,0.001434,0.000633,0.003 142,0.002626,0.012478,0.005935,0.000246,-0.004217,0.000599
Basque_Spanish:BAS28,0.133173,0.151314,0.058831,0. 01615,0.056318,0.001952,0.000235,-0.003692,0.030679,0.039363,-0.001786,0.016036,-0.026313,-0.016102,0.021715,-0.002784,-0.012386,-0.005954,-0.001006,0.002751,0.005241,0.00779,-0.006409,-0.013255,0.006586
Basque_Spanish:BAS30,0.129758,0.141159,0.061471,0. 005814,0.06432,0.006136,-0.011516,0.003923,0.035178,0.042643,0.005196,0.013 488,-0.01888,-0.023946,0.021851,-0.002387,-0.01682,0.008361,-0.000628,-0.002376,0.004243,0,-0.006286,-0.015183,0.003712
Basque_Spanish:BAS31,0.133173,0.149283,0.058077,0. 011305,0.055395,-0.008088,-0.002585,0.002077,0.033542,0.046835,-0.009094,0.006894,-0.028543,-0.014863,0.022937,0.009281,0.000652,0.000127,-0.002011,-0.00025,0.005989,0.006925,-0.003697,-0.005663,0.000479
Basque_Spanish:BAS32,0.137726,0.153345,0.053551,0. 009044,0.059088,-0.003068,0.001175,0.003923,0.030679,0.04483,0.0008 12,0.01169,-0.019326,-0.021744,0.016015,0.015778,0.009779,-0.00228,-0.010684,0.001126,0.003743,0.001731,-0.012941,-0.008676,0.002036
Basque_Spanish:BAS33,0.126344,0.15436,0.058077,-0.000646,0.062781,-0.000837,-0.00094,0,0.02577,0.051755,-0.008931,0.012589,-0.016799,-0.007707,0.020494,0.001724,-0.007302,0.004181,-0.002388,-0.010505,0.015223,0.00779,-0.007395,-0.011447,0.002754
Basque_Spanish:BAS35,0.133173,0.152329,0.061094,0. 016796,0.053241,0.000279,-0.010575,0.005307,0.030065,0.040821,-0.005846,0.014687,-0.026164,-0.013625,0.020629,-0.002917,-0.009518,0.001774,-0.000251,-0.003877,0.017095,0.002349,-0.006532,-0.015062,-0.002155
Basque_Spanish:BAS44,0.125205,0.149283,0.059208,0. 018411,0.060011,-0.006693,-0.00282,0.000692,0.037837,0.041732,0.00341,0.00959 1,-0.032259,-0.024634,0.015336,0.009944,-0.014733,0.005574,-0.001383,-0.001876,0.014599,0.004575,-0.002711,-0.00964,0.002874
Basque_Spanish:BAS47,0.105855,0.147252,0.056191,0. 005168,0.058165,-0.003904,-0.005405,0.001846,0.023111,0.039727,-0.01494,0.008093,-0.02334,-0.017065,0.0057,-0.007425,-0.009779,0.010642,0.005279,-0.002376,0.014599,0.002844,-0.007765,-0.005904,-0.002754
Basque_Spanish:BAS54,0.126344,0.148267,0.055814,0. 01292,0.057549,-0.00753,0.00329,0,0.03436,0.049386,-0.001299,0.012889,-0.029435,-0.02257,0.010722,0.00305,0.003651,0.000507,-0.00176,-0.007128,0.011854,-0.00272,-0.001972,-0.019762,-0.008622
Basque_Spanish:BAS62,0.126344,0.136081,0.057322,0. 003876,0.056626,0.005578,0.003525,0.001385,0.02249 8,0.039181,-0.005521,0.011989,-0.027651,-0.018717,0.017644,0.007558,0.000522,0.007221,-0.005531,-0.001,0.007861,0.00371,-0.008011,-0.010001,0.000718
Basque_Spanish:BAS67,0.117238,0.152329,0.052797,0. 012597,0.048317,0.001116,-0.009165,-0.001385,0.025156,0.027882,0,0.004946,-0.026313,-0.018992,0.02348,-0.011403,-0.021383,-0.004181,-0.004777,-0.003502,0.007237,0.003462,-0.007888,-0.014219,0.003233
Basque_Spanish:BAS80,0.10927,0.144205,0.048271,0.0 05814,0.047701,-0.00251,-0.00423,-0.007154,0.023929,0.048293,-0.004384,0.017834,-0.040882,-0.020093,0.018729,-0.00411,-0.018515,0.005954,-0.000754,-0.00025,-0.002745,0.002226,-0.00949,-0.010363,0.000239
Basque_Spanish:BAS81,0.133173,0.156392,0.050157,0. 011951,0.056318,-0.001673,0.000235,0.004384,0.030065,0.035718,-0.009743,0.009741,-0.017988,-0.026836,0.011129,0.014054,-0.00326,0.002534,-0.003268,-0.000125,0.005366,0.006801,-0.007888,-0.008435,-0.007424
Basque_Spanish:BAS87,0.121791,0.142174,0.04978,0.0 09044,0.055395,-0.008367,0.00141,-0.001846,0.030474,0.035172,-0.009906,0.006894,-0.023042,-0.026424,0.008415,0.001591,-0.001304,0.009755,0,-0.002876,0.008485,0.004699,-0.009367,-0.008073,-0.001437
Basque_Spanish:BAS90,0.1161,0.151314,0.046009,0.00 9367,0.055395,0.007251,-0.007755,-0.005077,0.026179,0.042097,-0.003897,0.01139,-0.015015,-0.012937,0.015744,0.006364,-0.007171,0.005574,-0.008045,-0.003627,0.01148,-0.005317,-0.003944,-0.00735,0.006826
Basque_Spanish:BAS94,0.129758,0.150298,0.054305,0. 010659,0.056626,0.000837,0.00188,0.002538,0.030065 ,0.042097,-0.001299,0.002698,-0.020961,-0.029038,0.018187,0.018563,0.011213,0.00266,-0.002891,0.004502,0.013227,-0.004575,-0.004807,-0.007953,0.006586
Basque_Spanish:BAS97,0.125205,0.148267,0.058454,0. 022287,0.049855,0.004183,0.002115,-0.002077,0.028224,0.051937,-0.005196,0.017984,-0.036125,-0.021744,0.020087,0.000663,0.004172,0.000507,-0.003645,-0.001251,0.005241,0.006925,-0.002588,-0.00494,0.006706
Basque_Spanish:HG01515,0.132035,0.148267,0.056945, 0.006137,0.050471,0.003626,0.003055,0.003923,0.029 042,0.037905,-0.006171,0.009591,-0.015758,-0.013212,0.017508,0.002917,-0.004303,0.004307,0.001508,-0.001126,0.007986,-0.001237,-0.00986,-0.008435,0.006706
Basque_Spanish:HG01516,0.126344,0.155376,0.057322, 0.011628,0.054779,-0.00251,-0.001645,0.001615,0.029451,0.040821,-0.012342,0.007044,-0.023934,-0.013074,0.020901,-0.004508,-0.018906,0.003674,0.001634,-0.007629,0.008859,-0.001237,-0.007518,-0.008676,0.002634
Basque_Spanish:HG01518,0.126344,0.151314,0.054682, 0.00646,0.051086,0.006136,-0.000705,0.003231,0.024747,0.040821,0.000812,0.011 39,-0.023488,-0.009909,0.016829,-0.005834,-0.013821,0.000633,0.00352,-0.011005,0.006364,-0.004822,-0.002218,-0.003133,0.001676

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.3521% / 0.01352060
59.6 Spanish_Andalucia
40.4 Basque_Spanish

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.5513% / 0.01551327
80.0 Spanish_Andalucia
20.0 Basque_Spanish

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.3259% / 0.01325896
71.8 Basque_Spanish
28.2 Spanish_Andalucia




Distance list:

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.02663962 Spanish_Andalucia:AND33
0.02987994 Basque_Spanish:HG01515
0.02988602 Spanish_Andalucia:AND18
0.03031180 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623
0.03049822 Spanish_Andalucia:AND14
0.03059500 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01619
0.03061794 Spanish_Andalucia:AND4
0.03090504 Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
0.03154868 Basque_Spanish:BAS90
0.03175366 Spanish_Andalucia:AND84
0.03197874 Spanish_Andalucia:AND43
0.03216622 Spanish_Andalucia:AND10
0.03344292 Basque_Spanish:HG01518
0.03409314 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620
0.03413126 Basque_Spanish:BAS87
0.03521565 Basque_Spanish:BAS81
0.03591807 Basque_Spanish:BAS62
0.03631974 Spanish_Andalucia:AND80
0.03673461 Spanish_Andalucia:AND86
0.03677806 Basque_Spanish:BAS21
0.03692159 Basque_Spanish:BAS112
0.03741940 Spanish_Andalucia:AND36
0.03745594 Basque_Spanish:BAS23
0.03753128 Basque_Spanish:HG01516
0.03781654 Basque_Spanish:BAS31

Distance to: gixajo_dad_scaled
0.02079010 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623
0.02779229 Spanish_Andalucia:AND33
0.02831411 Spanish_Andalucia:AND14
0.02859915 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01619
0.03004852 Spanish_Andalucia:AND18
0.03080522 Spanish_Andalucia:AND4
0.03129531 Spanish_Andalucia:AND84
0.03133044 Spanish_Andalucia:AND36
0.03239604 Spanish_Andalucia:AND7
0.03265531 Spanish_Andalucia:AND80
0.03291239 Spanish_Andalucia:AND10
0.03310736 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620
0.03341398 Spanish_Andalucia:AND86
0.03432788 Spanish_Andalucia:AND43
0.03471371 Spanish_Andalucia:AND77
0.03506171 Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
0.03666999 Spanish_Andalucia:AND75
0.03913074 Spanish_Andalucia:AND2
0.04032535 Basque_Spanish:BAS90
0.04046180 Spanish_Andalucia:AND39
0.04268670 Basque_Spanish:HG01518
0.04300964 Basque_Spanish:BAS87
0.04419211 Basque_Spanish:BAS102
0.04425267 Basque_Spanish:BAS80
0.04489626 Basque_Spanish:BAS47

Distance to: gixajo_mom_scaled
0.02349271 Basque_Spanish:HG01518
0.02378482 Basque_Spanish:HG01515
0.02638030 Basque_Spanish:HG01516
0.02826490 Basque_Spanish:BAS90
0.02926306 Basque_Spanish:BAS67
0.02929765 Basque_Spanish:BAS102
0.03075206 Basque_Spanish:BAS100
0.03084354 Basque_Spanish:BAS21
0.03175852 Basque_Spanish:BAS104
0.03188567 Spanish_Andalucia:AND33
0.03215102 Basque_Spanish:BAS23
0.03279079 Basque_Spanish:BAS28
0.03308275 Basque_Spanish:BAS87
0.03331989 Spanish_Andalucia:AND4
0.03368573 Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
0.03420462 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620
0.03424734 Basque_Spanish:BAS35
0.03426900 Spanish_Andalucia:AND18
0.03512395 Basque_Spanish:BAS62
0.03513622 Basque_Spanish:BAS47
0.03635979 Basque_Spanish:BAS33
0.03669043 Basque_Spanish:BAS25
0.03684869 Basque_Spanish:BAS81
0.03686973 Spanish_Andalucia:AND84
0.03757931 Spanish_Andalucia:AND43


Just averages distance lists:

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.02332982 Andalucía
0.03047783 Basque_Spanish

Distance to: gixajo_dad_scaled
0.02079118 Andalucía
0.04319372 Basque_Spanish

Distance to: gixajo_mom_scaled
0.02503620 Basque_Spanish
0.03147748 Andalucía


Your father is the reference point of Andalusia.

[Xavier727]

Where is that particular PCA from? I have used the vahaduo one and it’s not very good for visibility.

Its the Global G25 NW Europe

https://vahaduo.github.io/g25views/#NorthwestEurope

[gixajo]

Your father is the reference point of Andalusia.

Yeah, he is very very average, except for his Ydna.

[Opie]

Yeah, he is very very average, except for his Ydna.

You should have kept this as a secret because this might make Gallop very jealous.

[J. Ketch]

Depends on the test, in G25 and K13 I basically plot as Irish, in K36 I basically plot as English. Logically I should plot as Scottish.

[Mr. M]

Quite expected for someone whose ancestry is 100% Bosnia

https://i.postimg.cc/6p07CZr5/pca-m.png (https://postimg.cc/PCCrjPVB)

[gixajo]

You should have kept this as a secret because this might make Gallop very jealous.

Gallop would say my father is not the average Andalusian because he is not blond.

[ScandinavianCelt]

Using Ancestry-only official coords, this is my Similarity Map:

https://i.postimg.cc/2yNmczhq/g25-similarity-map-(9).png (https://postimg.cc/7G9pbrBD)


Put your official Ancestry coords in here to get the map for yourself:

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/Tools/SimilitudeG25


They give Top 30 matches below the map.

My top 2 groups with Ancestry results today in bold:

Top 30 Closest Populations
# Population Distance
1 Dutch 0.0198
2 Danish 0.0206
3 Norwegian 0.0211
4 Scottish 0.0215
5 Orcadian 0.0219
6 Frisian Netherlands 0.0225
7 Irish 0.0225
8 English 0.0232
9 Shetlandic 0.0236
10 Finistère (France) 0.0237
11 Welsh 0.0238
12 Icelandic 0.0240
13 German North Rhine-Westphalia 0.0243
14 Dutch Groningen 0.0243
15 German Hamburg 0.0261
16 French Brittany 0.0261
17 Seine Maritime (France) 0.0263
18 English Cornwall 0.0265
19 German 0.0266
20 Swedish 0.0270
21 Irish Ulster 0.0273
22 Morbihan (France) 0.0274
23 German Lower Saxony 0.0279
24 Bavaria Middle Franconia Erlangen 0.0301
25 German Erlangen 0.0302
26 Nord (France) 0.0305
27 Dutch Central 0.0308
28 Côtes d'Armor (France) 0.0317
29 Dutch North Brabant 0.0327
30 Manche (France) 0.0330

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I made K36 ethno-specific coordinates based on all top "French" and "Fennoscandian" segments to show a more accurate similarity inherited from each side of my family:

My French side:

https://i.postimg.cc/7LCnXDxD/g25-similarity-map-(10).png (https://postimg.cc/67XZ5k21)

My Swedish (Fennoscandian) side:

https://i.postimg.cc/FKfVGmhD/g25-similarity-map-(11).png (https://postimg.cc/3yTGJs4v)

Using heat-map tool:

French side vs Fennoscandian side:

https://i.postimg.cc/hG73vVQG/french-k36.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/NjKdCR43/2-fenno.png (https://postimages.org/)

[Jingle Bell]

I plot somewhere in Sahel, like fulani or southern berbers.

[Figaro]

Pop distance for me on the G25 Similarity Map:

# Population Distance
1 German Erlangen 0.0207
2 Bavaria Middle Franconia Erlangen 0.0212
3 German Hamburg 0.0217
4 Austrian 0.0217
5 German North Rhine-Westphalia 0.0225
6 German 0.0229
7 Czech 0.0231
8 Hungarian 0.0243
9 German North Bohemia 0.0246
10 German Saxony Leipzig 0.0260
11 German East 0.0260
12 Slovenian 0.0291
13 Croatian 0.0293
14 Dutch 0.0300
15 German Thuringia 0.0315
16 German Thuringia 0.0315
17 German Lower Silesia 0.0316
18 German Mecklenburg 0.0316
19 Seine Maritime (France) 0.0325
20 Danish 0.0325
21 Austrian Carinthia 0.0325
22 German Saxony-Anhalt 0.0328
23 German North 0.0328
24 Swedish 0.0336
25 Ukrainian Zakarpattia 0.0341
26 Polish Silesian 0.0342
27 German Baden-Wurttemberg Ellwangen 0.0344
28 Dutch North Brabant 0.0344
29 Nord (France) 0.0350
30 Welsh

[Figaro]

Duplicate

[gixajo]

Using Ancestry-only official coords, this is my Similarity Map:

[u


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I am Spanish...:eek:

https://i.imgur.com/abGVddy.jpeg

# Population Distance
1 Spanish Aragon 0.0166
2 Spanish Cantabria 0.0169
3 Spanish Pirineu 0.0173
4 Spanish La Rioja 0.0182
5 Spanish Terres de l'Ebre 0.0186
6 Spanish Valencia (Valencian) 0.0190
7 Spanish Valencia 0.0191
8 Spanish Aragon North 0.0193
9 Spanish Castilla La Mancha 0.0200
10 Spanish Camp de Tarragona 0.0201

My father:

https://i.imgur.com/8ndFI15.jpeg

# Population Distance
1 Spanish Andalucia 0.0208
2 Portuguese 0.0219
3 Spanish Castilla La Mancha 0.0224
4 Spanish Extremadura 0.0226
5 Spanish Galicia 0.0230
6 Spanish Valencia Alicante (Valencian) 0.0233
7 Spanish Eivissa 0.0237
8 Spanish Alacant 0.0241
9 Spanish Cantabria 0.0241
10 Spanish Menorca 0.0243

My mother:

https://i.imgur.com/c0olD1n.png

# Population Distance
1 Spanish Biscay 0.0213
2 Spanish Barcelones 0.0226
3 Spanish Aragon 0.0242
4 Spanish Pais Vasco 0.0245
5 Spanish Navarra 0.0245
6 Spanish Burgos 0.0247
7 Spanish Aragon North 0.0248
8 Spanish Pirineu 0.0249
9 Basque Spain Alava 0.0252
10 French Chalosse 0.0258

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

I am Portuguese through and through. 85% of my 30 closest populations are all Iberian and the remaining are from southern and central France and northern Italy.

[Feiichy]

Quite expected for someone whose ancestry is 100% Bosnia

https://i.postimg.cc/6p07CZr5/pca-m.png (https://postimg.cc/PCCrjPVB)

funny how you are much more western than me

[Feiichy]

I plot basically like my dad, and in middle of Croatian cluster. My genetics looks like I am fully Croat, despite I am not.

[ScandinavianCelt]

@gixajo

My Iberian-specific coordinates map me like this (based on my top 28 segments from the K36 calc, equaling 8.25% of total DNA I have):

https://i.postimg.cc/nLxrdfft/g25-similarity-map-(12).png (https://postimg.cc/SnZms5KZ)

My Top 30 Closest IBERIAN (K36) Populations
# Population Distance
1 Basque Baztan 0.0352
2 Basque France Labourd 0.0352
3 Basque Soule 0.0353
4 Basque France Soule 0.0353
5 Basque Lower Navarre 0.0355
6 Basque Roncal 0.0364
7 Basque French 0.0375
8 Basque France 0.0375
9 Basque Gipuzkoa 0.0377
10 Spanish Pais Vasco 0.0379
11 Basque Biscay 0.0390
12 Spanish La Rioja 0.0391
13 Spanish Burgos 0.0393
14 Basque Spain Alava 0.0396
15 French Bearn 0.0396
16 Spanish Biscay 0.0396
17 French Chalosse 0.0399
18 Spanish Aragon North 0.0400
19 French Bigorre 0.0403
20 Spanish Navarra 0.0428
21 Spanish Cantabria 0.0437
22 Spanish Pirineu 0.0440
23 Spanish Aragon 0.0441
24 Spanish Valencia 0.0451
25 Spanish Valencia (Valencian) 0.0453
26 Spanish Cataluna 0.0455
27 Spanish Castilla La Mancha 0.0460
28 Spanish Asturias 0.0462
29 Spanish Castello 0.0467
30 Spanish Galicia 0.0478


And my BASQUE (K36) coordinates show this similarity for me, apparently giving me all my real French background: (based on 19 largest segments, 13.54% of my DNA):

https://i.postimg.cc/NFRf8dCQ/g25-similarity-map-(13).png (https://postimg.cc/XB7b4k0P)


My Top 30 Closest BASQUE Populations
# Population Distance
1 Loire-Atlantique (France) 0.0253
2 Manche (France) 0.0262
3 Maine-et-Loire (France) 0.0271
4 French Brittany 0.0279
5 Côtes d'Armor (France) 0.0297
6 Somme (France) 0.0298
7 Welsh 0.0301
8 English 0.0305
9 Morbihan (France) 0.0306
10 English Cornwall 0.0309
11 Finistère (France) 0.0315
12 Ille-et-Vilaine (France) 0.0315
13 French Pas-de-Calais 0.0316
14 Belgian 0.0317
15 French Paris 0.0320
16 Seine Maritime (France) 0.0322
17 Pas-de-Calais (France) 0.0330
18 French Nord 0.0332
19 Calvados (France) 0.0332
20 Nord (France) 0.0340
21 Orcadian 0.0342
22 Scottish 0.0343
23 Flemish Belgium 0.0345
24 Dutch 0.0350
25 Sarthe (France) 0.0354
26 England Hampshire 0.0354
27 French Seine-Maritime 0.0360
28 Swiss German 0.0363
29 Irish 0.0364
30 Irish Ulster 0.0365

[Gannicus]

145641

145644

145645

145646

[Katarzyna]

Can you give me some suggestions for nice plot websites? I want to check for myself and also for my partner, as his Myheritage DNA results are pending

[Mr. M]

funny how you are much more western than me

Because I have lower Balto-Slav paired with a Southern part that is high Paleo-Balkan/low West Asian


https://i.postimg.cc/pXTF8FK5/Bildschirmfoto-2026-01-03-um-02-48-43.png (https://postimg.cc/w3CMY3f9)


Target: m
Distance: 1.0949% / 0.01094850 | R3P
48.4 Italian_Veneto
46.0 Russian_Smolensk
5.6 Georgian_Guria

[Peterski]

Can you give me some suggestions for nice plot websites? I want to check for myself and also for my partner, as his Myheritage DNA results are pending

I don't normally include PCA in my reports, but if you order my report I can add extra a European PCA with your position shown.

(see my signature for details)

[Peterski]

By the way I plot within the western part of the Polish cluster and that's correct based on my ancestry.

[Gannicus]

Here's where I plot with IA Gauls

145647
145648

IA Britons

145649
145650

[Opie]

Can you give me some suggestions for nice plot websites? I want to check for myself and also for my partner, as his Myheritage DNA results are pending

Try IllustrativeDNA

[Fistora]

1 Half - Western/Central Poland
2 Half - Southeastern Poland/Western Ukraine, minor German
https://i.postimg.cc/Gp7n05hN/image.png
https://i.postimg.cc/DZXjCjWp/image.png

[vader]

I plot closest to Castillians and Galicians.

Family is from the Algarve.

[Dušan]

Yes, it is according to ancestry.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ze6DjDAlT1_VkGJZ7_jpI9HhKdN9BnU4/view

Distance to: Dušan_scaled
0.02395095 Serb_Croatia
0.02469625 Serb_Bosnia
0.02488593 Serb_WestSerbia
0.02695592 Moldovan
0.02695900 Serb_Sumadija
0.02753235 Serb
0.02813909 Serb_Belgrade
0.02865171 Bosnian
0.02987385 Croat
0.03053343 Croat_Dalmatia
0.03060636 Serb_SouthSerbia
0.03189019 Croat_Bosnia
0.03213185 Croat_Herzegovina
0.03267043 Bosniak_Croatia
0.03389753 Montenegrin
0.03449678 Romanian
0.03640112 Serb_Montenegro
0.03652688 Hungarian
0.03859383 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03872550 Bosniak_Sandzak
0.03971085 Slovenian
0.04033745 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.04064011 Bulgarian
0.04131222 Croat_North
0.04148534 Austrian
0.04268576 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.04294521 Pomak_Danubian_Plain
0.04731845 Cossack_Ukrainian_Dnipropetrovsk

[gixajo]

Is anyone else having trouble opening Vahaduo PCAs? This is the first time this has happened to me.

[Mortimer]

I plot with half roma samples from spain inbetween roma balkan and balkan european

[villainchai]

Iirc both of the calculators of TA fame have me as West Ukrainian. I'm 1/4 Slovak and 3/4 Czech (Moravian Slovak though). I'm not sure I'm an outlier or not.

[Peterski]

I'm 1/4 Slovak and 3/4 Czech (Moravian Slovak though).

This is probably why your main region in my analysis was Bratislava.

[villainchai]

This is probably why your main region in my analysis was Bratislava.

I'm not even going to bother asking if you've ever had another Moravian Slovak sample xD I should start recruiting so we can find out what we even really are. I'm assuming more genetically Slovak if this is the case but I'm wondering why G25 thinks I'm West Ukrainian. Like what is so eastern about my heritage?

[Figaro]

I'm not even going to bother asking if you've ever had another Moravian Slovak sample xD I should start recruiting so we can find out what we even really are. I'm assuming more genetically Slovak if this is the case but I'm wondering why G25 thinks I'm West Ukrainian. Like what is so eastern about my heritage?

These calculations require a lot of interpretation sometimes. Per the one I posted a little bit ago, it has me closer to the Croatian average than to Danes:dunno:

Edit: Now that I think more about it, Croats are genetically rather central euro shifted, so it makes sense.

[Peterski]

I'm not even going to bother asking if you've ever had another Moravian Slovak sample xD I should start recruiting so we can find out what we even really are. I'm assuming more genetically Slovak if this is the case but I'm wondering why G25 thinks I'm West Ukrainian. Like what is so eastern about my heritage?

Yes, so far you are the only Moravian Slovak I've had!

Can you post your distances to populations in G25?

[Dardanos]

IllUSTRATIVE dna closest population:

1 Albanian (Kosovo) 2.385
2 Albanian 2.480
3 Greek (Thessaly) 2.522
4 Bulgarian 2.858
5 Gagauz 2.885
6 Greek (Central Macedonia) 2.921
7 Greek (Eastern Macedonia and Thrace) 2.936
8 Pomak (Bulgaria) 2.967
9 North Macedonian 3.096
10 Italian (Friuli-Venezia Giulia) 3.215
11 Greek (Western Greece) 3.298
12 Italian (Veneto) 3.342
13 Italian (Piedmont) 3.430
14 Montenegrin 3.444
15 Romanian 3.486
16 Serb (Montenegro) 3.519
17 Greek (Peloponnese) 3.713
18 Serb 3.742
19 Italian (Trentino-Alto Adige) 3.759
20 Italian (Lombardy) 3.840
21 Italian (Tuscany) 3.869
22 Italian (Emilia-Romagna) 3.932
23 Italian (Aosta Valley) 4.182
24 Serb (Croatia) 4.244
25 Italian (Marche) 4.255
26 French (Provence) 4.355
27 Italian (Liguria) 4.399
28 Corsican 4.416
29 Italian (Umbria) 4.487
30 Italian (Lazio) 4.618
31 Serb (Bosnia) 4.710
32 Bosniak 4.727
33 Spanish (Balearic Islands) 4.871
34 Italian (Abruzzo) 5.084
35 Greek (Izmir) 5.089
36 Spanish (Catalonia) 5.199
37 Italian (Molise) 5.225
38 Croat 5.246
39 French (Grand Est) 5.263
40 Moldovan 5.311
41 Italian (Apulia) 5.413
42 Spanish (Castilla la Mancha) 5.434
43 Spanish (Murcia) 5.467
44 Spanish (Galicia) 5.469
45 Spanish (Valencia) 5.574
46 Spanish (Extremadura) 5.581
47 Greek (Cyclades) 5.623
48 Spanish (Andalusia) 5.681
49 Italian (Basilicata) 5.726
50 Spanish (Cantabria) 5.743
https://i.ibb.co/6cNDVCGy/PCA-3.png
https://i.ibb.co/Y79QjXH1/PCA-2.png

[Usernotfound]

0.01984221 Bosniak_Sandzak
0.02112693 Montenegrin
0.02114182 Serb_Montenegro
0.02260177 Vlach_Serbia
0.02276593 Vlach_Aromanian_Greece_o
0.02397780 Serb_Serbia_Toplica
0.02650116 Serb
0.02662965 Serb_Serbia_Belgrade
0.02812074 Serb_Serbia_Sumadija
0.02822602 Serb_Serbia_Nisava
0.02846877 Serb_Serbia_Macva
0.02852708 Serb_Croatia
0.02935633 Bulgarian
0.02968511 Croat_Herzegovina
0.02973925 Bosniak_Croatia
0.02975533 Romanian
0.02989282 Serb_Serbia_Central_Banat
0.02997497 Serb_Serbia_Jablanica
0.03030001 Pomak_Bulgaria
0.03048794 Serb_Serbia_Pcinja
0.03133143 Serb_Bosnia
0.03143570 Moldovan_Stefan_Voda
0.03148568 Bosniak
0.03163072 Pomak_Greece


Distance: 0.0191% / 0.01905072 | ADC: 1x RC
54.6 Bosniak_Sandzak
24.0 Serb_Montenegro
21.4 Montenegrin

[cass]

G25 turned out to be highly precise.

https://i.ibb.co/ymdQmFp4/ul-Parkowa-Kartuzy-8585083.jpg (https://ibb.co/spbVp9CW)

Distance to: cass
0.01053557 Kartuzy_Kashubian:Marszalkowski
0.01103789 Kartuzy_Kashubian:Kreft
0.01157161 German_Pomerania
0.01259983 Kashubian_Wesierski
0.01285823 German_West_Prussia
0.01454336 German_Schleswig-Holstein_o
0.01509321 German_West_Prussia
0.01593685 German_Lower_Silesia
0.01647355 Kashubian_Bronk
0.01781578 German_West_Pomerania_Voivodeship
0.01781639 German_Thuringia_East
0.01803367 PL_50°15′N_19°01′E_Silesian_simulated
0.01803370 PL_50°15′N_19°01′E_Silesian
0.01815717 German_Lower_Silesia
0.01829100 German_Farther_Pomerania
0.01836335 Kashubian_Breza
0.01894581 German_Thuringia
0.01901229 German_Brandenburg
0.01959838 Polish_Bydgoszcz_(n=70)
0.01992496 Kashubian_Modrzejewski
0.01996482 Polish_Krakow_(n=141)
0.02048228 PolishL_WlkpSouth4_Odolanow
0.02048228 PL_51°34′N_17°40′E_Odolanow
0.02054908 German_Saxony_Leipzig
0.02090817 Kashubian_Gierszewski

[Dardanos]

0.01984221 Bosniak_Sandzak
0.02112693 Montenegrin
0.02114182 Serb_Montenegro
0.02260177 Vlach_Serbia
0.02276593 Vlach_Aromanian_Greece_o
0.02397780 Serb_Serbia_Toplica
0.02650116 Serb
0.02662965 Serb_Serbia_Belgrade
0.02812074 Serb_Serbia_Sumadija
0.02822602 Serb_Serbia_Nisava
0.02846877 Serb_Serbia_Macva
0.02852708 Serb_Croatia
0.02935633 Bulgarian
0.02968511 Croat_Herzegovina
0.02973925 Bosniak_Croatia
0.02975533 Romanian
0.02989282 Serb_Serbia_Central_Banat
0.02997497 Serb_Serbia_Jablanica
0.03030001 Pomak_Bulgaria
0.03048794 Serb_Serbia_Pcinja
0.03133143 Serb_Bosnia
0.03143570 Moldovan_Stefan_Voda
0.03148568 Bosniak
0.03163072 Pomak_Greece


Distance: 0.0191% / 0.01905072 | ADC: 1x RC
54.6 Bosniak_Sandzak
24.0 Serb_Montenegro
21.4 Montenegrin

Opaaaa, Albanian shifted Sandžak Bosniaks to first place and Vlachs to third and fourth. I knew you are a kopil, you just do not want to admit it 😉

[Peterski]

0.01803367 PL_50°15′N_19°01′E_Silesian_simulatedWe already have real coordinates for this sample (Polish_Silesian2 from G25 datasheet), so you can stop using simulated ones.

[Gannicus]

Did another ancient PCA with other groups from Europe, the Near East and Africa:

145673

145674

With Celtic Britons instead of Gauls:

145675

145676


Modern UK:

145677

Modern France:

145678

I'm inside the Brittany and the edge of France Nord clusters.

Subtle admixtures, if they are present won't show in PCA.

[Usernotfound]

Opaaaa, Albanian shifted Sandžak Bosniaks to first place and Vlachs to third and fourth. I knew you are a kopil, you just do not want to admit it ��

Opaaaaa genetic waste shiptar is trying to talk something.
Sandzak Bosniaks are over 40% slavic or more.
“Albanian shifted” have you ever see these people? They are over 185-190cm tall on average, taller than you and your cripple brother for 2 heads.

[Dardanos]

Opaaaaa genetic waste shiptar is trying to talk something.
Sandzak Bosniaks are over 40% slavic or more.
“Albanian shifted” have you ever see these people? They are over 185-190cm tall on average, taller than you and your cripple brother for 2 heads.

Ungaaa bungaaa

Your ancestors:
https://i.ibb.co/rfG5vdC5/images-9.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/5Wf8Vg2r/images-6.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Y76TDGnV/images-7.jpg
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[Mortimer]

https://i.ibb.co/hwh23PN/IMG-20260104-141511.jpg (https://ibb.co/ghHtk58)
https://i.ibb.co/FLj7Ww5b/IMG-20260104-141452.jpg (https://ibb.co/NdHY3j96)
https://i.ibb.co/YFsLRpj7/IMG-20260104-141431.jpg (https://ibb.co/FLTDxg7b)

[Usernotfound]

Ungaaa bungaaa

typical uncivilized shiptar

[Fabricius]

Ancestry:
Mainly from Colonial Portuguese ancestors; family report about a "german" ancestor; I heard something about "Italians", but I never investigated.
Black African and Amerindian were presumed "because I am Brazilian", but in reality I'm zero amerindian.

Gentic test: Iberian (including Spain); Northeastern European; Ashkenazi; African (Maghrebians and SSA).
Italians are a genetical group on MyHeritage.

Plot: I'm between south of France and Slovenia, so, genetically alpine.

I stay more precisely in the northeast of Italy.

https://i.imgur.com/azPcXDo.png

https://i.imgur.com/efXzpQz.png

https://i.imgur.com/5SDOLuW.png

https://i.imgur.com/TOu6HCW.jpeg

Similitude maps (K36):

https://i.imgur.com/Mi6rvTg.png

https://i.imgur.com/0wBh8S4.png

[Gannicus]

I compiled a list of modern individuals from the "Celtic Fringe"

145718

145716
145717

I cluster with Welsh, Bretons, and it looks like Cornwall too.145718

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02078366 Welsh:WalesBK68
0.02226634 English_Cornwall:HG00255
0.02320420 English_Cornwall:HG00236
0.02367376 Welsh:WalesL40
0.02387257 English_Cornwall:HG00264
0.02426719 English_Cornwall:HG00243
0.02448262 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_95
0.02453719 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48
0.02461518 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16
0.02472746 Welsh:WalesL44
0.02551271 English_Cornwall:HG00259
0.02557309 Welsh:WalesCHF13
0.02565419 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_46
0.02621970 Irish:Irish11
0.02640454 Irish:Irish12
0.02646404 Welsh:WalesL86
0.02678848 Welsh:WalesCHF63
0.02695333 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_23
0.02696498 Irish:Irish55
0.02726712 Scottish:Scottish5
0.02728902 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_32
0.02754601 Irish:Irish62
0.02754713 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_27
0.02764823 Welsh:WalesDR56
0.02780676 Scottish:Scottish27


Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0100% / 0.01000609
49.6 Irish
32.9 French_Brittany
17.5 English_Cornwall

[17571imre]

145726

145727

145729

Ancestry Hungarian Transylvanian and 1/4 Dutch in most calculators i come out as full East Central European.

[Gannicus]

I had AndreiDNA plot me with his PCA tool

146033

OpenAI Interpretation(it references f2, f3, and f4 statistics which Andrei did for me, but I'll share in another thread):

This PCA is well-constructed and, importantly, it is telling the same story as your f2, f4, and qpAdm results, just in geometric form. I’ll walk through it systematically and keep the interpretation strictly population-genetic.

1. How to read this PCA (what the axes mean)

Although the exact loadings aren’t shown, the structure is textbook for West Eurasia:

PC1 (x-axis)
Primarily tracks a north–south / steppe–Mediterranean cline

Left = more Steppe / WHG

Right = more ANF / CHG / eastern Mediterranean

PC2 (y-axis)
Separates western vs eastern/southeastern structure

Higher = western Mediterranean / Iberian

Lower = eastern / Balkan / Near Eastern influences

This matches where Basques, Celtiberians, Thracians, Minoans, and Hittites fall.

2. Your exact position (the key point)

Gannicus plots here:

Slightly right of Durotriges (Brittonic IA)

Slightly right of Nordic Bronze Age

Left of Continental Celts

Far left of Mediterranean IA groups

Clearly separated from Baltic IA

This means:

You are firmly Northwest European

But not maximally northern-shifted

You carry a modest southern/continental pull

This is exactly what your f4 tests showed when Denmark_IA was used as the comparator.

3. Why each nearby population matters
A. Durotriges (Brittonic Iron Age)

You are very close to them.

This indicates:

Strong Insular / NW European base

Celtic continuity rather than Scandinavian bias

This explains why:

f4 vs Scotland_EIA ≈ symmetric

You do not show excess Celtiberian shift vs Scotland

B. Nordic Bronze Age

You are close but slightly offset toward the south.

This matches:

f4(Gannicus, Denmark_IA; southern refs) being positive

Your qpAdm ANF + CHG elevation

You are not Scandinavian-like, but you overlap the broader North Sea zone.

C. Continental Celts & Celtiberians

You sit between:

Insular Celts (Durotriges)

Continental Celts

Celtiberians (but clearly not Iberian)

This triangulates perfectly with:

f4 showing Celtiberian shift vs Denmark_IA

No Celtiberian shift vs Scotland_EIA

In other words:

You share continental Celtic drift, not Iberian ancestry.

D. Thracians, Minoans, Hittites

These form a southern arc well away from you.

You are:

Closest to Thracians among these

Still clearly distinct

This matches:

Weak/moderate Thracian f4 signal vs Denmark_IA

No strong Balkan displacement overall

E. Baltic IA (Lithuania_IA)

This is very far from you.

This is critical:

Confirms you do not have Baltic/Uralic pull

Explains why Finns, Balts, Saami are far in f2

Reinforces your purely NW/continental European profile

4. Why this PCA validates your earlier statistics
Method What it said PCA confirmation
f2 Closest to English/French You sit in NW Europe
f4 Southern shift vs Denmark_IA You are south of Nordic BA
f4 Symmetric vs Scotland_EIA You overlap Brittonic IA
qpAdm Elevated ANF + CHG You shift toward continental Celts
PCA Intermediate NW–continental Exactly this position

No contradictions anywhere.

[Rædwald]

AncestryDNA

https://i.postimg.cc/nVDS5fyG/g25-similarity-map.png

Top 30 Closest Populations (AncestryDNA)



1 Côtes d'Armor (France) 0.0198
2 Orcadian 0.0216
3 Scottish 0.0234
4 French Brittany 0.0236
5 English 0.0242
6 Welsh 0.0246
7 English Cornwall 0.0250
8 Dutch 0.0252
9 Seine Maritime (France) 0.0254
10 Irish 0.0262
11 Manche (France) 0.0265
12 Irish Ulster 0.0269
13 England Hampshire 0.0273
14 Finistère (France) 0.0277
15 Morbihan (France) 0.0280
16 Flemish Belgium 0.0283
17 Nord (France) 0.0285
18 German North Rhine-Westphalia 0.0287
19 German 0.0291
20 Shetlandic 0.0293
21 Norwegian 0.0294
22 Maine-et-Loire (France) 0.0294
23 Belgian 0.0301
24 Pas-de-Calais (France) 0.0306
25 Dutch North Brabant 0.0309
26 Danish 0.0311
27 Loire-Atlantique (France) 0.0313
28 French Nord 0.0319
29 Bavaria Middle Franconia Erlangen 0.0320
30 Ille-et-Vilaine (France) 0.0320


23&Me


https://i.postimg.cc/bv1dWJRP/g25-similarity-map-(1).png

Top 30 Closest Populations (23andMe)



1 Orcadian 0.0204
2 Côtes d'Armor (France) 0.0210
3 German North Rhine-Westphalia 0.0215
4 Dutch 0.0220
5 Scottish 0.0222
6 French Brittany 0.0227
7 Welsh 0.0228
8 German 0.0231
9 English 0.0231
10 Seine Maritime (France) 0.0238
11 English Cornwall 0.0244
12 Flemish Belgium 0.0248
13 Manche (France) 0.0255
14 Irish 0.0258
15 Bavaria Middle Franconia Erlangen 0.0260
16 Norwegian 0.0260
17 England Hampshire 0.0265
18 Shetlandic 0.0266
19 German Erlangen 0.0266
20 Finistère (France) 0.0269
21 Danish 0.0269
22 Morbihan (France) 0.0271
23 German Hamburg 0.0273
24 Nord (France) 0.0279
25 Irish Ulster 0.0281
26 Maine-et-Loire (France) 0.0283
27 Belgian 0.0285
28 French Seine-Maritime 0.0287
29 Ille-et-Vilaine (France) 0.0287
30 Icelandic 0.0292

[Beowulf]

https://i.postimg.cc/hv6ZjpxX/Captura-de-pantalla-2026-01-21-233419.png (https://postimages.org/)

my ancestry is:

Iberian
1/8 British
1/16 North Italian
1/16 Polish
and some other distant ancestries such as French and Norwegian (genetically negligible)


Your Closest Modern Populations:

1. Italian_Aosta_Valley_(Valdotain) (distance: 0.0144)
2. Italian_Aosta_Valley (distance: 0.0149)
3. French_Provence (distance: 0.0151)
4. French_Occitan_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur (distance: 0.0152)
5. Swiss_French (distance: 0.0163)
6. French_Occitan_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur_Bouches-du-Rhone_Marseille (distance: 0.0166)
7. French_Occitan_Auvergne-Rhone-Alpes_Ardeche (distance: 0.0174)
8. French_Occitan_Auvergne-Rhone-Alpes_Drome (distance: 0.0175)
9. Spanish_Mallorca (distance: 0.0175)
10. Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan) (distance: 0.0175)

[Annie999]

I plot in Tuscany and that makes sense. Half is north italian and then some Lebanese, Spanish, Basque, French if you mix everything it makes sense it plots in central Italy.

[Fabricius]

...

Plot of each chromosome of mine:

https://i.imgur.com/kDATddW.png

https://i.imgur.com/aH70R1n.png

https://i.imgur.com/EQtz1QD.png

https://i.imgur.com/BGbpXbE.png

[Figaro]

I had AndreiDNA plot me with his PCA tool

146033

OpenAI Interpretation(it references f2, f3, and f4 statistics which Andrei did for me, but I'll share in another thread):

This PCA is well-constructed and, importantly, it is telling the same story as your f2, f4, and qpAdm results, just in geometric form. I’ll walk through it systematically and keep the interpretation strictly population-genetic.

1. How to read this PCA (what the axes mean)

Although the exact loadings aren’t shown, the structure is textbook for West Eurasia:

PC1 (x-axis)
Primarily tracks a north–south / steppe–Mediterranean cline

Left = more Steppe / WHG

Right = more ANF / CHG / eastern Mediterranean

PC2 (y-axis)
Separates western vs eastern/southeastern structure

Higher = western Mediterranean / Iberian

Lower = eastern / Balkan / Near Eastern influences

This matches where Basques, Celtiberians, Thracians, Minoans, and Hittites fall.

2. Your exact position (the key point)

Gannicus plots here:

Slightly right of Durotriges (Brittonic IA)

Slightly right of Nordic Bronze Age

Left of Continental Celts

Far left of Mediterranean IA groups

Clearly separated from Baltic IA

This means:

You are firmly Northwest European

But not maximally northern-shifted

You carry a modest southern/continental pull

This is exactly what your f4 tests showed when Denmark_IA was used as the comparator.

3. Why each nearby population matters
A. Durotriges (Brittonic Iron Age)

You are very close to them.

This indicates:

Strong Insular / NW European base

Celtic continuity rather than Scandinavian bias

This explains why:

f4 vs Scotland_EIA ≈ symmetric

You do not show excess Celtiberian shift vs Scotland

B. Nordic Bronze Age

You are close but slightly offset toward the south.

This matches:

f4(Gannicus, Denmark_IA; southern refs) being positive

Your qpAdm ANF + CHG elevation

You are not Scandinavian-like, but you overlap the broader North Sea zone.

C. Continental Celts & Celtiberians

You sit between:

Insular Celts (Durotriges)

Continental Celts

Celtiberians (but clearly not Iberian)

This triangulates perfectly with:

f4 showing Celtiberian shift vs Denmark_IA

No Celtiberian shift vs Scotland_EIA

In other words:

You share continental Celtic drift, not Iberian ancestry.

D. Thracians, Minoans, Hittites

These form a southern arc well away from you.

You are:

Closest to Thracians among these

Still clearly distinct

This matches:

Weak/moderate Thracian f4 signal vs Denmark_IA

No strong Balkan displacement overall

E. Baltic IA (Lithuania_IA)

This is very far from you.

This is critical:

Confirms you do not have Baltic/Uralic pull

Explains why Finns, Balts, Saami are far in f2

Reinforces your purely NW/continental European profile

4. Why this PCA validates your earlier statistics
Method What it said PCA confirmation
f2 Closest to English/French You sit in NW Europe
f4 Southern shift vs Denmark_IA You are south of Nordic BA
f4 Symmetric vs Scotland_EIA You overlap Brittonic IA
qpAdm Elevated ANF + CHG You shift toward continental Celts
PCA Intermediate NW–continental Exactly this position

No contradictions anywhere.

How do you initiate this? Just email him?