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AnthrogenicaRefugee
01-12-2026, 09:17 AM
29 Aromanians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromanians)in total
All settled in Romania as part of population exchange with Bulgaria. Mainly in Constanta and Bucharest.
Their ancestry comes from Kavala Greece, Blagoevgrad Bulgaria, Silistra Bulgaria, Bachevo Bulgaria, Thessaloniki Greece, Bitola North Macedonia, Struga North Macedonia, Gorna Dzhumaya Bulgaria.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


19.05
23.68
19.16
14.27
18.97
0.88
1.96
0.83
1.21
0
0
0
0


19.98
21.95
20.79
12.18
22.60
1.05
0.18
0.34
0.91
0
0
0
0


17.79
20.84
18.59
11.70
27.51
1.38
1.01
0.15
0.35
0.67
0
0
0


18.34
18.11
18.52
13.72
25.80
2.99
0.15
2.14
0
0
0.24
0
0


20.13
19.40
17.36
9.50
28.13
4.71
0
0
0
0.17
0
0.59
0


23.52
16.11
22.12
10.61
23.73
1.94
0
0
1.49
0.30
0.19
0
0


20.67
17.46
21.89
12.39
22.97
2.42
0
1.69
0
0
0.09
0.37
0.05


18.17
19.68
22.29
11.86
22.52
3.33
0
0
1.09
0
0.83
0.22
0


20.41
19.62
21.47
10.66
24.53
2.14
0
0
0
0
0.83
0
0.33


22.62
15.33
23.09
9.54
24.44
2.32
0.83
0
0.27
1.23
0.34
0
0


17.26
18.35
20.70
14.59
25.77
2.10
0.44
0.24
0
0.17
0
0.31
0


21.45
21.30
19.19
6.74
23.78
3.96
1.32
0.27
0.11
1.09
0.18
0.51
0.11


18.95
19.92
21.55
12.65
23.47
2.72
0
0
0
0.09
0.64
0
0


20.54
17.91
20.31
11.13
26.44
2.54
0
0
0
0.65
0.48
0
0


22.26
19.31
19.04
9.90
23.22
3.28
0.99
0
0
1.87
0.14
0
0


21.00
17.19
20.74
13.04
22.44
3.33
0
0.20
0
1.54
0.52
0
0


20.19
22.29
20.74
10.19
24.06
1.30
0
0.07
1.01
0
0.13
0
0


24.14
17.24
19.28
14.01
21.77
2.72
0
0
0
0.85
0
0
0


20.29
18.85
19.86
13.53
22.86
2.98
0
0
1.62
0
0
0
0


22.41
22.02
19.28
11.13
21.65
1.82
0.38
0
0.43
0.66
0.21
0
0


18.74
19.20
19.42
15.26
24.96
1.06
0
0
1.32
0.05
0
0
0


22.98
19.25
20.21
10.58
23.54
1.91
0.31
0
0.74
0.49
0
0
0


19.91
20.04
16.31
14.49
24.14
3.50
1.13
0
0.26
0.22
0
0
0


19.11
21.83
20.46
12.29
20.04
4.72
0.05
0.48
0
0.52
0.50
0
0


22.00
22.65
20.77
8.99
21.14
1.42
1.43
0
1.46
0.14
0
0
0


19.50
20.59
22.35
14.35
20.68
1.32
0
0
0.53
0.11
0.58
0
0


24.30
17.60
21.30
10.01
22.97
3.03
0
0.38
0.21
0.20
0
0
0


19.97
21.03
19.05
13.79
21.77
3.51
0.50
0.12
0.26
0
0
0
0


20.16
19.11
19.91
12.22
25.11
1.52
0
0
0
1.55
0.43
0
0

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Average K13:

Aromanian(n=29),20.55,19.58,20.20,11.91,23.48,2.48 ,0.37,0.24,0.46,0.43,0.22,0.07,0.02

G25 sims:


37_Aromanian,0.129393,0.136978,0.024673,0.002542,0 .019934,0.004889,0.003863,0.008225,-0.001819,0.001789,0.005029,-0.000431,0.002321,0.000572,-0.003840,-0.001669,0.001966,-0.003214,-0.003482,-0.001499,-0.002508,-0.002392,0.002312,-0.003580,-0.000407
38_Aromanian,0.130566,0.148745,0.026377,-0.007345,0.023735,-0.000187,0.002029,0.007459,0.001576,0.006423,0.005 574,-0.000375,0.002624,0.000493,-0.004228,-0.001910,0.001776,-0.003474,-0.003606,-0.000872,-0.002220,-0.002570,0.002160,-0.003238,-0.000370
39_Aromanian,0.127543,0.147990,0.016829,-0.013050,0.019126,-0.002120,-0.001476,0.004327,0.002943,0.005978,0.007257,-0.002105,0.006311,0.002313,-0.005605,-0.001456,0.001372,-0.003552,-0.003275,0.000132,-0.001960,-0.001984,0.002279,-0.002002,-0.000679
40_Aromanian,0.124628,0.142100,0.011493,-0.019965,0.021763,-0.003482,0.000098,0.005314,0.000135,0.005647,0.004 812,-0.001466,0.004795,0.000498,-0.002609,-0.000099,0.000237,-0.003339,-0.003489,-0.000272,-0.001303,-0.001464,0.002036,-0.002259,-0.000584
41_Aromanian,0.122500,0.156202,0.016497,-0.020021,0.022280,-0.005342,-0.001627,0.005444,0.008513,0.006207,0.007277,-0.003473,0.008956,0.001790,-0.003321,0.000143,-0.000734,-0.003161,-0.002999,0.001815,-0.000685,-0.000797,0.001713,-0.000500,-0.001004
42_Aromanian,0.127975,0.147956,0.023473,-0.015568,0.023291,-0.006145,-0.001139,0.005264,0.006839,0.014868,0.002990,0.001 173,-0.000316,-0.002275,-0.001139,-0.001183,0.000038,-0.003019,-0.003007,-0.000068,-0.000890,-0.002597,0.001083,-0.002201,0.000230
43_Aromanian,0.124273,0.146735,0.018392,-0.017266,0.026254,-0.002480,0.000206,0.005324,0.003771,0.010309,0.003 430,0.000536,0.000787,-0.001100,-0.001819,-0.001083,0.000976,-0.003309,-0.003945,-0.001068,-0.001431,-0.002255,0.001828,-0.003323,-0.000217
44_Aromanian,0.125030,0.147700,0.020195,-0.012757,0.023975,-0.008316,0.000411,0.007103,0.004875,0.009070,0.005 654,-0.000646,0.003487,-0.000076,-0.004160,-0.001623,0.001703,-0.003750,-0.004112,-0.000238,-0.002156,-0.002999,0.001932,-0.003938,-0.000340
45_Aromanian,0.125575,0.154558,0.019994,-0.011565,0.027394,-0.006783,-0.000062,0.006612,0.004935,0.010334,0.005908,-0.000570,0.003282,0.000355,-0.003748,-0.001514,0.001191,-0.003597,-0.003796,-0.000224,-0.001690,-0.002364,0.001893,-0.002844,-0.000580
46_Aromanian,0.126322,0.148554,0.019090,-0.015806,0.024821,-0.006470,-0.005539,0.001273,0.009597,0.017199,0.003706,0.000 992,0.000251,-0.001492,-0.001960,-0.001326,0.000510,-0.003382,-0.003511,-0.000110,-0.000881,-0.002563,0.001263,-0.002523,-0.000020
47_Aromanian,0.125200,0.153653,0.012860,-0.019084,0.018663,-0.003545,0.000090,0.004818,0.000749,0.006965,0.005 547,-0.000462,0.003021,0.000385,-0.003618,-0.001185,0.001556,-0.003527,-0.003881,-0.000931,-0.002202,-0.002637,0.002074,-0.003485,-0.000417
48_Aromanian,0.122415,0.144940,0.024370,-0.006798,0.026988,-0.001856,-0.004124,0.003472,0.012319,0.008799,0.006937,-0.002747,0.007387,0.001866,-0.004320,-0.000994,0.000357,-0.003336,-0.003362,0.001345,-0.000863,-0.001130,0.001896,-0.001236,-0.000920
49_Aromanian,0.128061,0.154572,0.018730,-0.012459,0.024643,-0.005698,0.000069,0.006152,0.002526,0.007973,0.005 919,-0.000573,0.003271,0.000289,-0.003629,-0.001241,0.001422,-0.003725,-0.004037,-0.000594,-0.002040,-0.002559,0.002004,-0.003579,-0.000603
50_Aromanian,0.127066,0.153326,0.017020,-0.016697,0.023356,-0.006870,-0.002752,0.003435,0.004930,0.010280,0.005654,-0.000842,0.003825,0.000284,-0.002984,-0.000796,0.000362,-0.003394,-0.003345,0.000221,-0.001224,-0.001978,0.001660,-0.002013,-0.000529
51_Aromanian,0.126974,0.145107,0.022698,-0.007582,0.022491,-0.001862,-0.006220,-0.000325,0.006519,0.008521,0.005539,-0.001302,0.004383,0.000500,-0.002204,-0.000255,-0.000230,-0.003099,-0.002999,0.000564,-0.000745,-0.001305,0.001529,-0.001379,-0.000688
52_Aromanian,0.126258,0.147065,0.018662,-0.013097,0.021640,-0.005716,-0.004948,-0.000240,0.002235,0.008898,0.004205,0.000158,0.001 530,-0.001009,-0.001000,-0.000165,0.000139,-0.003169,-0.003452,-0.000465,-0.001161,-0.002085,0.001428,-0.002780,-0.000402
53_Aromanian,0.130434,0.150289,0.027536,-0.008169,0.025462,-0.002149,0.001298,0.007844,0.004592,0.007773,0.006 462,-0.001109,0.004258,0.001145,-0.005167,-0.002102,0.001683,-0.003601,-0.003533,-0.000137,-0.002053,-0.002435,0.002171,-0.002709,-0.000473
54_Aromanian,0.129156,0.153175,0.021375,-0.011160,0.020783,-0.001279,-0.001763,0.002155,0.000179,0.007427,0.003050,0.000 802,-0.000117,-0.002060,0.001340,0.000516,-0.001022,-0.002562,-0.002762,-0.000640,-0.000647,-0.001517,0.001048,-0.001797,-0.000340
55_Aromanian,0.127780,0.147325,0.021573,-0.014191,0.018335,-0.003791,0.001187,0.006864,0.001520,0.007042,0.004 447,-0.000435,0.002736,-0.000969,-0.001911,-0.000529,0.000192,-0.003117,-0.003114,-0.000065,-0.001514,-0.002352,0.001500,-0.002597,-0.000152
56_Aromanian,0.130449,0.148886,0.027960,-0.002492,0.024743,0.000059,-0.000318,0.004918,0.002709,0.005530,0.005537,-0.000749,0.003116,0.000418,-0.002665,-0.000995,0.000569,-0.003075,-0.003102,-0.000296,-0.001453,-0.001713,0.001804,-0.002079,-0.000636
57_Aromanian,0.128753,0.148762,0.018492,-0.014822,0.016088,-0.003229,0.001969,0.006120,-0.002396,0.005247,0.004883,-0.000115,0.002105,-0.000238,-0.002950,-0.001114,0.001035,-0.003124,-0.003089,-0.000854,-0.002113,-0.002657,0.001820,-0.002840,-0.000133
58_Aromanian,0.129458,0.150140,0.025216,-0.009917,0.023756,-0.001935,-0.000975,0.005002,0.005206,0.009925,0.004637,-0.000175,0.002188,-0.000516,-0.002105,-0.000981,0.000165,-0.003058,-0.002989,0.000006,-0.001080,-0.001927,0.001495,-0.001810,-0.000305
59_Aromanian,0.126991,0.149890,0.014736,-0.010896,0.016037,-0.000553,0.000564,0.005564,-0.000655,0.001791,0.005765,-0.002040,0.005687,0.000620,-0.001506,0.000669,-0.000725,-0.002867,-0.002725,0.000309,-0.001150,-0.001072,0.001631,-0.001327,-0.000826
60_Aromanian,0.127337,0.148644,0.022991,-0.007528,0.025452,-0.002834,-0.001075,0.005266,0.002700,0.004372,0.006207,-0.001696,0.005246,0.000637,-0.003067,-0.000375,0.000869,-0.003707,-0.004131,-0.000145,-0.001776,-0.001898,0.002063,-0.003536,-0.000920
61_Aromanian,0.130155,0.143542,0.030543,-0.000510,0.025422,0.001180,0.001163,0.008296,0.007 388,0.009106,0.005590,-0.000719,0.003286,0.000496,-0.004444,-0.002137,0.001406,-0.003377,-0.003307,-0.000033,-0.001729,-0.002314,0.001936,-0.002483,-0.000333
62_Aromanian,0.129925,0.151077,0.023143,-0.006883,0.023713,-0.003323,0.001796,0.006336,-0.000939,0.006912,0.004702,0.000915,0.000055,-0.000704,-0.003021,-0.001789,0.002082,-0.003517,-0.004031,-0.001735,-0.002516,-0.003158,0.002000,-0.004450,-0.000275
63_Aromanian,0.128906,0.153868,0.024079,-0.013801,0.027157,-0.002709,-0.001287,0.005474,0.007271,0.012685,0.003755,0.000 253,0.001391,-0.001493,-0.000720,-0.000482,-0.000433,-0.003116,-0.003254,0.000095,-0.000588,-0.001733,0.001264,-0.001892,-0.000311
64_Aromanian,0.128696,0.152390,0.020632,-0.009348,0.020878,-0.000205,0.001315,0.006866,0.000497,0.003674,0.005 594,-0.001255,0.004241,0.000189,-0.002142,-0.000158,0.000311,-0.003282,-0.003479,-0.000296,-0.001635,-0.001760,0.001844,-0.002731,-0.000729
65_Aromanian,0.128005,0.148544,0.020160,-0.011406,0.021585,-0.004688,-0.004298,0.000120,0.001717,0.007573,0.005664,-0.000475,0.002868,0.000611,-0.003214,-0.001062,0.000931,-0.003262,-0.003270,-0.000462,-0.001603,-0.002123,0.001833,-0.002355,-0.000516


G25 sim average:

Aromanian(n=29),0.1274422,0.1490591,0.0210272,-0.011298,0.0227505,-0.0030151,-0.0007429,0.0049821,0.0034632,0.007873,0.0052321,-0.0006528,0.003206,0.0000527,-0.0028192,-0.0009274,0.0006794,-0.0033004,-0.0034167,-0.0002247,-0.0015109,-0.0020806,0.0017758,-0.002534,-0.0004648

AnthrogenicaRefugee
01-12-2026, 09:27 AM
K13


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Distance to:
Aromanian(n=29)


1.65529454
Macedonian_South


1.78347974
Greek_Florina


2.71668916
Greek_CentralMacedonia


2.71856580
Albanian_Macedonia


3.12259507
Greek_Thessaly


3.38249908
Albanian_North_Albania


3.40280766
Greek_West


3.42280587
Torbesh


3.54735112
Greek_Thrace


3.58323876
Albanian_Kosovo


3.75540943
Greek_Epirus


3.80545661
Macedonian_Central


4.30253414
Albanian_Montenegro


4.45641111
Greek_Achaea


4.48470735
Macedonian_North


4.56119502
Turkish_Macedonia


4.64736484
Bulgarian_Southeastern


4.77027253
Bulgarian_Moldova


4.96911461
Gagauz


5.16553966
Albanian_South_Albania


5.33323542
Greek_Laconia_Karitsa


5.51711881
Greek_Arcadia


5.71301147
Bulgarian_Southcentral


6.02149483
Greek_Euboea_South


6.04603176
Bulgarian_Northeastern


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G25 sim


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Distance to:
Aromanian(n=29)


0.02285955
Greek_Eastern_Macedonia_and_Thrace_(n=9)


0.02503975
Macedonian_North_Macedonia_(n=32)


0.02533715
Vlach_Aromanian_Greece_(n=7)


0.02565126
Greek_Eastern_Rumelia/Northern_Thrace_(n=14)


0.02726134
Swiss_Italian_(n=3)


0.02735320
Moldovan_Stefan_Voda_(n=10)


0.02744825
Greek_Central_Macedonia_(n=38)


0.02781876
Pomak_Greece_(n=11)


0.02808980
Greek_Peloponnese_Messenia_Outer_Mani_(n=25)


0.02829920
Italian_Friuli_Timau_(Bavarian)_o_(n=1)


0.02880810
Moldova_Gagauz-Bulgarian


0.02884024
Italian_Piedmont_Val_Borbera_(Ligurian)_(n=10)


0.02912672
Turkish_Balkans_(Balkan_Profile)_(n=7)


0.02994849
Greek_Thessaly_(n=12)


0.03031969
Italian_Emilia_(Emilian)_(n=8)


0.03053617
Torbesi_North_Macedonia_(n=2)


0.03068123
Pomak_North_Macedonia_(n=2)


0.03077697
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro_(n=6)


0.03088492
Turkish_Western_Macedonia_(n=5)


0.03118413
Italian_Tuscany_(Tuscan)_(n=23)


0.03125824
Italian_Friuli_(Friulian)_(n=18)


0.03145947
Italian_Veneto_(Venetian)_(n=21)


0.03182722
Bulgarian_(n=13)


0.03191890
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo_(n=34)


0.03203173
Greek_Peloponnese_Laconia_Sparta_(n=12)


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Nurzat
01-12-2026, 01:30 PM
"The Vlachs, including modern Romanians, can legitimately claim descent from Rome, in spite of maybe not having Italic ancestry, because they descend from Romanized provincial populations, as most Romans did. Roman identity was never genetic, and continuity lies in language, practices, and self-identification rather than blood. The preservation of a Latin-derived language reflects that continuity, even as Slavic and other elements were absorbed, which is no contradiction - assimilation was always how Roman identity worked, in antiquity (Romanization) and in modern times (Romanianization) alike."

Chatus Gipitius

AnthrogenicaRefugee
01-12-2026, 02:20 PM
"The Vlachs, including modern Romanians, can legitimately claim descent from Rome, in spite of maybe not having Italic ancestry, because they descend from Romanized provincial populations, as most Romans did. Roman identity was never genetic, and continuity lies in language, practices, and self-identification rather than blood. The preservation of a Latin-derived language reflects that continuity, even as Slavic and other elements were absorbed, which is no contradiction - assimilation was always how Roman identity worked, in antiquity (Romanization) and in modern times (Romanianization) alike."

Chatus Gipitius

The thing is that the pre-Slavic Getae-Dacian-Thracian genetic base was really close to Italic.

Aromanians have mixed with the incoming Slavs obviously, but less so than Romanians. They are not that far off from Italians.
The further we go back in time from the year 2000 AD towards 0 AD, the more paleo-Balkan and Italian-like the profile of the average Romanian/Moldovan from that time will be, because the pre-Slavic substrate was Central Italian-like. It will be a similar picture to the one in Croatia and Serbia, where we haves significantly more samples from antiquity, migration period, early medieval and medieval.

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