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poiuytrewq0987
01-25-2012, 11:16 PM
I think they are since many of them are descendants of Jews who lived in Europe for centuries and some of them are even recent migrants from Europe. I believe Israel is some kind of a beacon of Europe in the Eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea. We basically won the Crusades and had Israel installed to ensure continued friendliness to Western dictations in the Holy Land.

TheBorrebyViking
01-25-2012, 11:18 PM
No, no, no, no, no, and no!

Gamera
01-25-2012, 11:19 PM
I think they are

We all know you don't. :)

Vasconcelos
01-25-2012, 11:20 PM
Sorry, but no. And I'm not a jew hater.

poiuytrewq0987
01-25-2012, 11:23 PM
We all know you don't. :)

We are friends of Jews and we support Israel. We even built a Holocaust Museum as part of the Skopje 2012 Urban Renewal project. Ignore my past posts, I was only trolling but I am myself now. :)

Padre Organtino
01-25-2012, 11:25 PM
They certainly have strong European influence and Ahkenazis can even be considered quasieuropean but Israel in general is not more European than say Georgia or Turkey. So my answer is No.

StonyArabia
01-25-2012, 11:25 PM
No, it also has taken a lot of Middle Eastern elements, it shares no geographical area with Europe.

Queen B
01-25-2012, 11:27 PM
No.

Bloodraven
01-25-2012, 11:39 PM
Nope.

Damiăo de Góis
01-25-2012, 11:42 PM
They are in UEFA and Eurovision, so yeah... something's up.

Padre Organtino
01-25-2012, 11:48 PM
They are in UEFA and Eurovision, so yeah... something's up.

Even Kazakhstan is in UEFA now, so that doesn't count:rolleyes:

Damiăo de Góis
01-25-2012, 11:51 PM
Even Kazakhstan is in UEFA now, so that doesn't count:rolleyes:

They are? I never saw a team from there. That would be a looong trip...

Padre Organtino
01-26-2012, 12:05 AM
They are? I never saw a team from there. That would be a looong trip...

The funny thing is there's literally nothing European about Kazakhstan and Kazakhs except for Russian minority and some colonial/soviet legacy. If they are allowed to play in Europe why are Argentina and Canada excluded?

Well, your Iberian neighbours had to fly to Kazan:)

Fortis in Arduis
01-26-2012, 02:26 AM
I think not, but Israel has a strong European influence, as in cultural influence from Europe, not influence over European affairs. :rolleyes:

Bobby Six Killer
01-26-2012, 02:31 AM
Even due some New World Jews look white. No, i think Christianity in many other branches Catholics, Ortodox, Opues Dei etc is what really defines European values.

The Lawspeaker
01-26-2012, 02:33 AM
Hell no.

sturmwalkure
01-26-2012, 03:44 PM
Israhell is not even a real country. It would not exist if the Jews (*cough*Ehrenberg*cough*) did not make up the 6 million lie and the so-called Holocaust.

Looking at the Jewish settlements in Palestine since 1946 is akin to watching cancer grow.

http://www.thehypertexts.com/images/israel-palestine_map.jpg

Laubach
01-26-2012, 03:49 PM
No, but Israel influence is present in all continents

Laubach
01-26-2012, 03:52 PM
The funny thing is there's literally nothing European about Kazakhstan and Kazakhs except for Russian minority and some colonial/soviet legacy. If they are allowed to play in Europe why are Argentina and Canada excluded?

Well, your Iberian neighbours had to fly to Kazan:)

I suppose it's Kazakhstan has belonged to the former Soviet Union and have a large population of Russians, Ukrainians and Germans

Talvi
01-26-2012, 03:53 PM
Even America isnt European how can Israel be?

Laubach
01-26-2012, 03:54 PM
They are in UEFA and Eurovision, so yeah... something's up.

Israel are in UEFA and Eurovision because of political reason. If Israel compete in asia in the first game, there will be a war :rolleyes:

Redar14
01-26-2012, 03:54 PM
Everyone know answer for this stupid question.

Hevneren
01-26-2012, 03:55 PM
Israhell is not even a real country. It would not exist if the Jews (*cough*Ehrenberg*cough*) did not make up the 6 million lie and the so-called Holocaust.

Looking at the Jewish settlements in Palestine since 1946 is akin to watching cancer grow.

http://www.thehypertexts.com/images/israel-palestine_map.jpg

The irony is that you can thank Hitler for the existence of the State of Israel. Parts of Israel are even modeled on 1930's National Socialist Berlin. The Zionists wanted to leave Europe and the Nazis wanted them to leave, so Nazis in fact supported Zionists.

By the way, when the Jews first established Israel in 1948, they used German Mauser 98 rifles to chase the Palestinians off their land. You just can't make this up!

Sikeliot
01-26-2012, 03:56 PM
Israel is more European in character than the rest of the Levant, but that's not enough to make it Europe. Just like Argentina is more European than Peru or Bolivia, but still not Europe.

Mordid
01-26-2012, 03:56 PM
*Guapo Mode on* If they are fuckable, then yes *Guapo Mode off*.

Hevneren
01-26-2012, 04:00 PM
Israel is more European in character than the rest of the Levant, but that's not enough to make it Europe. Just like Argentina is more European than Peru or Bolivia, but still not Europe.

Lebanon has a European feel to it. Beirut is the Paris of the Middle East and they have croissants on the menu. Still, it doesn't make them a part of Europe. The former American and Oceanian colonies are more "European".

sturmwalkure
01-26-2012, 04:03 PM
The irony is that you can thank Hitler for the existence of the State of Israel. Parts of Israel are even modeled on 1930's National Socialist Berlin. The Zionists wanted to leave Europe and the Nazis wanted them to leave, so Nazis in fact supported Zionists.

By the way, when the Jews first established Israel in 1948, they used German Mauser 98 rifles to chase the Palestinians off their land. You just can't make this up!

w6AnukswZaI

You are wrong.

You are aware that all of the lies fabricated post WWII (Holocaust, etc) were meant to give the Jews enough sympathy to get their own home state. They would not be able to get away with half of what they do if they did not blame Nationalsocialist Germany for everything they have been doing.

Treffie
01-26-2012, 04:49 PM
Israhell is not even a real country. It would not exist if the Jews (*cough*Ehrenberg*cough*) did not make up the 6 million lie and the so-called Holocaust.

Looking at the Jewish settlements in Palestine since 1946 is akin to watching cancer grow.

http://www.thehypertexts.com/images/israel-palestine_map.jpg

I'd rather Israel here than the Ayrabs ;)

European Loyalist
01-26-2012, 09:23 PM
w6AnukswZaI

You are wrong.

You are aware that all of the lies fabricated post WWII (Holocaust, etc) were meant to give the Jews enough sympathy to get their own home state. They would not be able to get away with half of what they do if they did not blame Nationalsocialist Germany for everything they have been doing.

So let me guess, Eichmann was a fictional character portrayed by an actor? Weird... because there are records of him being at Wannsee....

Raskolnikov
01-26-2012, 09:27 PM
Israel is more European in character than the rest of the Levant, but that's not enough to make it Europe. Just like Argentina is more European than Peru or Bolivia, but still not Europe. Argentina isn't comparable at all to Israel. Argentinian reputation in Europe is completely the opposite, never mind the origins of the people.

Sylvanus
01-26-2012, 10:16 PM
The othodox jooz with ancient endogamic traditions are more Europeans than many european christian/etc. with Negrid, Mongolid, Veddid admixture...


http://ivarfjeld.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/jews.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Three_S%C3%A1mi_Lapp_women,_c1890s.jpg

Stars Down To Earth
01-26-2012, 10:34 PM
Nope, Israel isn't an European country. As a nation, it's bio-culturally Semitic and Middle-Eastern. Sure, there are loads of European genes and cultural influences in there, as well as an upper class of Ashkenazi Jews who are very "Europeanised", and aligned with the Western world. (Or, to be more precise, the West is hopelessly chained to Israel). But that's pretty much all. It's about as "European" as countries like Armenia and Turkey.

I guess you could put the Israeli Jews in the same "Levantine" category as the Lebanese, Cypriots, and Middle-East Christians.


The othodox jooz with ancient endogamic traditions are more Europeans than many european christian/etc. with Negrid, Mongolid, Veddid admixture...
True, most Ashkenazi Jews have absorbed European genes. But in their case (which a rarity), any blood admixture is pretty irrelevant as long as it doesn't impact the ethno-cultural identity as Jews. That said, I've already commented on how the Jews have genetically moved towards Europe while their cousins, the Arabs, moved towards Africa.

StonyArabia
01-26-2012, 11:07 PM
True, most Ashkenazi Jews have absorbed European genes. But in their case (which a rarity), any blood admixture is pretty irrelevant as long as it doesn't impact the ethno-cultural identity as Jews. That said, I've already commented on how the Jews have genetically moved towards Europe while their cousins, the Arabs, moved towards Africa.

Ashkenazim Jews have the highest affinity with Africa, as well some limited admixture and mtDNA from that region from all European populations. Affinity does not mean admixture. As well Arabs don't share much with them, as many seem to be from Greco-Anatolian converts and this why they appear to be close with Southern Italians. Some of course have absorbed native Central European blood, well others did not. The Sephardim even more so in regards to African admix. The only thing they share is some proto-Semitic ancestry and language which is dubbed as SouthWest Asian, where it's common and found in it's an altered form in the Arabian Desert.

Adrian
01-26-2012, 11:15 PM
The irony is that you can thank Hitler for the existence of the State of Israel. Parts of Israel are even modeled on 1930's National Socialist Berlin. The Zionists wanted to leave Europe and the Nazis wanted them to leave, so Nazis in fact supported Zionists.

By the way, when the Jews first established Israel in 1948, they used German Mauser 98 rifles to chase the Palestinians off their land. You just can't make this up!

Balfour Declaration of 1917

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration_of_1917

Dead Eye
07-15-2012, 07:38 AM
You do know that the Jews in Israel are a mix of every human race walking the face of the planet,right?

No,they are not European and their DNA proves it.

Nurzat
07-15-2012, 07:40 AM
some dudes who went to israel told me you hear arabic more than ivrit and arabic customs, faces, music, everything... israel is basically a libertarian arab land / people. they are not european fo sho