UFC OR BOXING

[Bobby Six Killer]

Ill post my answer later.

[Neanderthal]

Boxing all the way.

[TheBorrebyViking]

Boxing, but I like white-rex fights too.

[Bobby Six Killer]

Boxing is just a beautiful science.. However shit like the decision of the Marquez-Pacquiao fight, Pacquiao and Mayweather ducking each other etc, Has made Boxing fans a bit dissapointed.

However i don't like MMA the whole cosmetic of it seems very guys, 2 gays with tight pants on rolling on the floor.. Its just a No no.

[LightInDarkness]

MMA. Far more fast-paced and intense.

[Bobby Six Killer]

MMA. Far more fast-paced and intense.

Respect your opinon :)

[LightInDarkness]

I can appreciate boxing btw. I paved the way for sports such as MMA. Lots of good boxers that are still around. I just like a more fast-paced vibe when it comes to any full contact combat sport.

[Bobby Six Killer]

I can appreciate boxing btw. I paved the way for sports such as MMA. Lots of good boxers that are still around. I just like a more fast-paced vibe when it comes to any full contact combat sport.

The problem with MMA in my opinion is that confuse me a lot, Fighters come with different fight backgrounds. Some have Ju Jitsu and Boxing bases, and the other has Brazilian Ju jitsu, and wrestling. Im unable to find a path, even they are pretty much tryin to fuck each other up. lol

[poiuytrewq0987]

MMA. The fights are a whole lot interesting with a diversity of fighting styles. Boxing is nice and all but MMA is the future.

[LightInDarkness]

The problem with MMA in my opinion is that confuse me a lot, Fighters come with different fight backgrounds. Some have Ju Jitsu and Boxing bases, and the other has Brazilian Ju jitsu, and wrestling. Im unable to find a path, even they are pretty much tryin to fuck each other up. lol
That's what makes it so interesting. Different fighting styles coming together and see which fighter is more practiced in there style. Makes a match more exciting.

It's much more violent IMO as well.

[Bozkurt_Karabash]

MMA involves greater body motion and control, but skillz of boxers is still powerful. I prefer MMA for the same reason. You have to defend pretty well on both ground and stand up.

[Aces High]

A nice sit down and a cup of tea.

[Sturmgewehr]

Why isn't Kickboxing another Option?????

here I would chose Boxing, I love Boxing and Kickboxing equally, I like the stand up fighting styles, I am not a fan of the Lay and Pray techniques in MMA.

[SwordoftheVistula]

Don't really watch either, but MMA seems much better, about as close as you can get to real fighting without huge risk of serious injury.

Except for:


I am not a fan of the Lay and Pray techniques in MMA.

In a real fight, someone doing that would get kicked/stomped severely. I guess this is one of the rules MMA does have, to not allow this?

[Sturmgewehr]

In a real fight, someone doing that would get kicked/stomped severely. I guess this is one of the rules MMA does have, to not allow this?

Are you talking about a group fight or a one on one street fight???

[SwordoftheVistula]

Are you talking about a group fight or a one on one street fight???

Either/both. I've yet to see or hear of an instance of "this guy was coming at me, so I lay down on my back in the street, and thus I had the advantage on on him and took him out"

[Saruman]

MMA definitely though I hold box in great esteem, however boxers are in comparison too one-sided, MMA brings a variety of martial arts into play. As for kickboxing I like it but in comparison to boxing punches aren't as good obviously, while what it brings in kicks isn't enough to overcome the deficit. Boxers are very specialized in what they do, and in comparison to kickboxing MMA brings that sufficient variety.

[Vasa]

Are you talking about a group fight or a one on one street fight???

Do one on one fights even exist today?

Anyway, im pro both, but i prefer MMA as i am a MMA fighter.

[Arrow Cross]

MMA is more efficient in a practical way, so it gets my vote.

When it came to sports, I've always been more of a doer than a watcher.

[Querubín]

MMA of course

[Laubach]

Both have their advantage. Boxing gives you a higher mobility and agility, and improve your defense, standing and sequence of blows. The Muay Thai gives you the options of using the legs, knees and elbows and jiu jitsu you learn to defend themselves on the floor.

Having practiced Muay Thai for 10 years, and the other two sports mentioned, my preference is for the sport of Thailand.

With respect to the UFC and boxing today, both times for those who followed the Pride and K-1 and boxing with legendary fighters, I confess that the technical level has dropped a lot and do not see much

I think each one had its glorious days, and with much media. Today, is more media than quality

[Geronimo]

Definitely muay-thai, a sport that gives you a great variety of techniques/actions. Besides using elbows and knees you can also clinch and throw your opponent, in street figthing muay-thai you are even allowed to use your head.

If I have to choose between boxing and MMA, I choose boxing beacuse of its tradition/history and because I prefer stand-up fighting. Boxing will never go out of fashion and it will never be outpassed in popularity by any other combat sport.

[Sturmgewehr]

Either/both. I've yet to see or hear of an instance of "this guy was coming at me, so I lay down on my back in the street, and thus I had the advantage on on him and took him out"

if it is ONE on ONE then the MMA fighter would have an Advantage, of course assuming that both fighters are as good at their own representative sports because u can't put Manny Pacquiao vs some D Class MMA fighter or some MMA fighter form Cage Rage who are professionals but are not the level of Anderson Silva or GSP, I am very confident that Manny Pacquiao or Money Mayweather would have big chances even knocking out like bags full of feathers C Class UFC fighters.

I follow the three sports regularly, there is no event I don't watch when it comes to Boxing, Kickboxing and MMA ( but only UFC and Strikeforce whereas Boxing and Kickboxing I would watch any fighter ).

I think if u r in a group fight the most useful technique will be Boxing or Kickboxing and even kickboxing being careful with ur kicks and landing them only when u r 1000% sure.

When talking about a no rule street fight 1 one 1 then the guy who has studied or practiced MMA has an advantage cuz he can take u down and break u an arm a leg or something where u won't be able to fight anymore or simply a rear naked choke will solve everything.

[Sturmgewehr]

MMA definitely though I hold box in great esteem, however boxers are in comparison too one-sided, MMA brings a variety of martial arts into play. As for kickboxing I like it but in comparison to boxing punches aren't as good obviously, while what it brings in kicks isn't enough to overcome the deficit. Boxers are very specialized in what they do, and in comparison to kickboxing MMA brings that sufficient variety.

Have you seen Masato, Andy Souwer, Gokhan Saki.

Have you seen Senchai sor Kingstar who in the same time is a Lumpee title holder and a Pan Pacific Boxing Champ.

Have you heard of Samart Payakroon who was a multiple Muay Thai Champ and held a WBO Boxing Belt???\

I consider Samart Payakroon the best STAND UP striker that has ever existed in the world, he was the best in the world with Kicks and his Boxing skills were impeccable.

Not all kickboxers are the sloppy japanese 16 years old pink haired looking kid.

Do you also know that several Boxing Champions have made transition into kickboxing and got their asses handed to them???



Do one on one fights even exist today?

Anyway, im pro both, but i prefer MMA as i am a MMA fighter.

yes they do.

I prefer Kickboxing since I spend some time in University Practicing it, I also prefer Boxing cuz that is the basics of a fight.

[Saruman]

Have you seen Masato, Andy Souwer, Gokhan Saki.

Have you seen Senchai sor Kingstar who in the same time is a Lumpee title holder and a Pan Pacific Boxing Champ.

Have you heard of Samart Payakroon who was a multiple Muay Thai Champ and held a WBO Boxing Belt???\

I consider Samart Payakroon the best STAND UP striker that has ever existed in the world, he was the best in the world with Kicks and his Boxing skills were impeccable.

Not all kickboxers are the sloppy japanese 16 years old pink haired looking kid.

I'm not fond of Southeast Asian martial arts.
They are more of "thuggish" instead of finesse arts.
Even Sanda > Muay Thai.:D
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Do you also know that several Boxing Champions have made transition into kickboxing and got their asses handed to them???

As I've said boxers are specialised, but how about you send in any Kickboxer to fight per Marquess of Queensberry against lets say prime Tyson and we all know what happens, early 1st round KO. :)

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[Bobby Six Killer]

Klitschko vs Tyson who wins?

[Sturmgewehr]

I'm not fond of Southeast Asian martial arts.
They are more of "thuggish" instead of finesse arts.
Even Sanda > Muay Thai.:D
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Not Really, Muay Thai guys have schooled every other fighter in Asia, you watching some shitty Muay Thai guy against some other Sanda fighter, plus in those matches Nak Muay Thais are limited to how they use their elbows and those protection shit they wear.

In a straight Muay Thai match where they wear no protection the Muay Thai will mince the flesh from your face.

Plus it is not like they knocked out Seanchai, just some dude and I can find u videos like that how Thais obliterate Kyukoshin Karatekas and Chinese Boxers to pieces as well, that is not the point at all.


As I've said boxers are specialised, but how about you send in any Kickboxer to fight per Marquess of Queensberry against lets say prime Tyson and we all know what happens, early 1st round KO. :)

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Won't happen plus depends from the Kickboxer's style.

Tyson is not even the heaviest puncher in history he is listed something like 10th or whatever.

Tyson was an OVERHYPED fighter, he wasn't really as good as u think, his technique was nothing special, he was a brawler, you can never compare Tyson to Ali or even Holifield who he lost 2 times.

I am very confident Prime Tyson will get EMBARRASSED by a Prime Hoost or especially a Prime Bonjasky with his Airtight defense, just imagine how Bonjasky Closes Mike's distance get's him into his clinch and does what he does best, KNEES KNEES KNEES KNEES till he shatters his ribs, if Tyson tries to bang from outside agian he loses, LOW KICKS LOW KICKS, it will take only 2 low kicks to make Tyson kiss the canvas.

Plus Tysons Boxing style is sooooo inadequate for kickboxing, his deep bobbing and weaving his shoulder rolling will get Tyson KILLED in a kickboxing match cuz that kind of Technique makes u a kicking bag, he will be eating so many high kicks while bobbing and weaving and shoulder rolling u have no idea.

if we talking about Ray Leonard, well that is a very suitable style for kickboxing, moving around, getting in and out fast and very adequate footwork, still if Ray Leonard faced Saenchai or Payakroon it won't be pretty to watch but he would be able to beat some other thais or K-Boxers.

I love boxing, I appreciate it so much, it is so pleasant watching Money Mayweather, Pac Man all those high level boxers.

Have you watched that Match between Muhamed Ali and that Japanese Wrestler ???

Did Ali KO him in first round??? of course not, the match went to decision and in the end Ali could hardly walk, imagine kicked by a wrestler what about if someone like Hoost kicked him, he would shit his pants.

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[Saruman]

Not Really, Muay Thai guys have schooled every other fighter in Asia, you watching some shitty Muay Thai guy against some other Sanda fighter, plus in those matches Nak Muay Thais are limited to how they use their elbows and those protection shit they wear.

MT guys wanted a fight, they got it, and got their ass kicked officially.:D



In a straight Muay Thai match where they wear no protection the Muay Thai will mince the flesh from your face.

Plus it is not like they knocked out Seanchai, just some dude and I can find u videos like that how Thais obliterate Kyukoshin Karatekas and Chinese Boxers to pieces as well, that is not the point at all.

That guy is no some dude but a decent fighter, nor is that Chinese the most dangerous of all. I understand MT has been made popular in culture but there are other arts with greater traditions.




Tyson is not even the heaviest puncher in history he is listed something like 10th or whatever.

Heavy enough plus with a combo..



Tyson was an OVERHYPED fighter, he wasn't really as good as u think, his technique was nothing special, he was a brawler, you can never compare Tyson to Ali or even Holifield who he lost 2 times.

Yes brawler but a beast, that's why I like him. Not that he was a smart fighter but a beast.




I am very confident Prime Tyson will get EMBARRASSED by a Prime Hoost or especially a Prime Bonjasky with his Airtight defense, just imagine how Bonjasky Closes Mike's distance get's him into his clinch and does what he does best, KNEES KNEES KNEES KNEES till he shatters his ribs, if Tyson tries to bang from outside agian he loses, LOW KICKS LOW KICKS, it will take only 2 low kicks to make Tyson kiss the canvas.

Read my post again, I said per Marquess of Queensberry, so no kicks allowed.. Ofc that any kickboxer would get demolished by Tyson in a boxing match. I spoke of that specialization of boxers.




if we talking about Ray Leonard, well that is a very suitable style for kickboxing, moving around, getting in and out fast and very adequate footwork, still if Ray Leonard faced Saenchai or Payakroon it won't be pretty to watch but he would be able to beat some other thais or K-Boxers.

I love boxing, I appreciate it so much, it is so pleasant watching Money Mayweather, Pac Man all those high level boxers.

Have you watched that Match between Muhamed Ali and that Japanese Wrestler ???

Did Ali KO him in first round??? of course not, the match went to decision and in the end Ali could hardly walk, imagine kicked by a wrestler what about if someone like Hoost kicked him, he would shit his pants.

I'm not against kicks at all, in fact I very much appreciate people who perfected them especially high kicks, it's just in comparison to boxing if the kicks are allowed then some other very respectable arts should be as well to have a better show, like Ju-Jitsu forms..:D
In MMA all can have their fair share.. Even recently in UFC we saw how a MT kick-boxer successfully dealt with a wrestler (Overeem - Lesnar)

[Damião de Góis]

As a spectator i find Boxing very boring, it's as interesting as watching golf. UFC on the other hand is more interesting. I'm not a big fan but i can watch it at least.

[Saruman]

I am very confident Prime Tyson will get EMBARRASSED by a Prime Hoost or especially a Prime Bonjasky with his Airtight defense, just imagine how Bonjasky Closes Mike's distance get's him into his clinch and does what he does best, KNEES KNEES KNEES KNEES till he shatters his ribs, if Tyson tries to bang from outside agian he loses, LOW KICKS LOW KICKS, it will take only 2 low kicks to make Tyson kiss the canvas.


:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: Tyson told Sapp he'd fight him without prep that night by boxing rules, with prep he could have demolished Bob.

And here's Hoost against Sapp. Lost twice.

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Seriously, obviously two different situations, but prime
Hoost would have a hard time against prime Tyson. Prime Tyson was quick as hell. With a good cross training he could have dealt with Hoost. Hoost could've won as well, but almost no one knowledgeable would claim Tyson would "get destroyed". Boxer's good chance in such a match-up is an early KO, something prime Tyson excelled at.
Still in a boxing match there is no contest..

[Sturmgewehr]

MT guys wanted a fight, they got it, and got their ass kicked officially.

That guy is no some dude but a decent fighter, nor is that Chinese the most dangerous of all. I understand MT has been made popular in culture but there are other arts with greater traditions.


yeah in that particular event, Nak Thais would win most of the time, Chinese Boxers are not as good with their legs as Thais, even boxing, of course the Thai got his ass handed to him but you have to consider what happens in general when these breeds of fighters meet.

What Thais have an advantage on is punishment, they get a lot of it, since they are kids, you would rarely see a Chinese Boxer having 250 Fights by the time he is 22.

Thais get punished all the time, their style is aggressive and they go toe to toe, Chinese boxing is not like that, they don't have that much experience, their training is not as brutal as Thais.

You would rarely see a Chinese boxer take part in K1 Max GP and walk over the competition like Buakaw did.

In the end of the day it is all up to the fighter.

Not trying to say that Chinese boxers are crap or something, I just appreciate Muay Thai more and I appreciate Nak Thais more cuz they are real warriors.


Heavy enough plus with a combo..

Kid Dynamite's combos were not really that good when u think about it, I would agree if u talked about his body movement and transitioning of the punches from the body to the head, that was a thing of beauty how he would transition from punching hte body to the head and more beautiful when u see how a heavyweight does it in the speed of a middle weight.


Read my post again, I said per Marquess of Queensberry, so no kicks allowed.. Ofc that any kickboxer would get demolished by Tyson in a boxing match. I spoke of that specialization of boxers.

I am not gonna even argue with you here, I would be insane if I did.

It is out of the question, Tyson would demolish even Thor in a Boxing match.

I was just trying to argue the other way around where they both can use their full arsenal.


I'm not against kicks at all, in fact I very much appreciate people who perfected them especially high kicks, it's just in comparison to boxing if the kicks are allowed then some other very respectable arts should be as well to have a better show, like Ju-Jitsu forms..

Executing a kick takes a LOOONG LOOONG time, if u wanna do it right you have to train hard.

People usually think Kicks are sloppy, if someone tells u that, know that he has no idea how the mechanic behind a kick works how everything matters and how you don't kick but you SET UP A KICK which is very very important.

I don't know Jui Jitsu, I don't prefer it cuz I don't like to wait and to see for a submission to happen, I like seeing people punch and kick the hell of each other, I appreciate ground and pound though, think of prime Fedor and prime Mark Coleman and their ground and pound.


In MMA all can have their fair share.. Even recently in UFC we saw how a MT kick-boxer successfully dealt with a wrestler (Overeem - Lesnar)

That is true, we will see now how Overeem will do against JDS, don't forget JDS is also a kickboxer, in Brazil he has had an 18 - 0 Kickboxing record plus he is GREAT with his hands and his TDD is great, he won't need his TDD that much against Supereem but still.

Multiple times Lumpee Champ and WBO Lightweight Champ.

The best striker to ever walk the earth.


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[Sturmgewehr]

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: Tyson told Sapp he'd fight him without prep that night by boxing rules, with prep he could have demolished Bob.

And here's Hoost against Sapp. Lost twice.

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Seriously, obviously two different situations, but prime
Hoost would have a hard time against prime Tyson. Prime Tyson was quick as hell. With a good cross training he could have dealt with Hoost. Hoost could've won as well, but almost no one knowledgeable would claim Tyson would "get destroyed". Boxer's good chance in such a match-up is an early KO, something prime Tyson excelled at.
Still in a boxing match there is no contest..


Yeah Sapp beat up a washed up Hoost big deal and then he lost to some C Level kickboxers.

I don't care that Hoost lost, it is not like that was Hoost of the 90s so he embarrassed the sport, that was a washed up Hoost with a shot out Jaw.

Hoost would have trouble with Prime Tyson but he would win especially Bonjasky that is out of the question.

Tyson wouldn't be able to take 30% of Hoosts low kick power let alone something else.

[Sturmgewehr]

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[Bobby Six Killer]

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[Rosenrot]

UFC is AWESOME!!!! love it.

[Cail]

MMA because submission grappling >>> everything else. Boxing and lowkicks are a nice addition too though.

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[Cail]

Gay or not, it's effective =). Ever been in a choke or a keylock?

[Bobby Six Killer]

Gay or not, it's effective =). Ever been in a choke or a keylock?

I KO those pussies before they try to do me those fag chokes

[Cail]

I KO those pussies before they try to do me those fag chokes

Teaching a wrestler to box is way easier than teaching a boxer to wrestle. And most people cross-train. So why limit yourself to one thing. If it was like you say, MMAs would've been won by boxers, and that's really very rare. Kickboxers sometimes do that (like Mirco), but most of the people are versatile, and the most successful ones come from a wrestling background.

[Bobby Six Killer]

Teaching a wrestler to box is way easier than teaching a boxer to wrestle. And most people cross-train. So why limit yourself to one thing. If it was like you say, MMAs would've been won by boxers, and that's really very rare. Kickboxers sometimes do that (like Mirco), but most of the people are versatile, and the most successful ones come from a wrestling background.

MMA fighters don't have chins. They always get KO with one solid shot.

[Cail]

MMA fighters don't have chins. They always get KO with one solid shot.

Yeah, so why don't boxers go for easy money and fame in MMA if that's so :thumb001:. Answer - getting lowkicked limp, slammed to the ground and getting a joint rip ain't no fun.

[Bobby Six Killer]

Yeah, so why don't boxers go for easy money and fame in MMA if that's so :thumb001:. Answer - getting lowkicked limp, slammed to the ground and getting a joint rip ain't no fun.

I hope this answers your question

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[Óttar]

MMA is more exciting to watch, but boxing is the deadliest martial art (Mu-ay Thai kicks having the most force of any strike, notwithstanding.)

[The Journeyman]

I've always been into boxing and I've boxed for several years now. It's one of the most fundamental yet important martial arts, even Bruce Lee studied boxing. There is use for both mma and basic boxing, but I'd rather watch two men duke it out on their feet than rOll around on the floor holding each other.

[Bobby Six Killer]

I've always been into boxing and I've boxed for several years now. It's one of the most fundamental yet important martial arts, even Bruce Lee studied boxing. There is use for both mma and basic boxing, but I'd rather watch two men duke it out on their feet than rOll around on the floor holding each other.

Cool what boxing gloves did u use?

[The Journeyman]

Well I have a pair of custom made heavy bag gloves, and a pair of 8 oz Everlast sparring gloves. In competition they provided the gloves for me.