Classify Chechen girl

[Bloodraven]

I posted her photos on the Caucasian girls thread but I think she deserve her own thread :D

http://www.picitup.com/celebs/http/img.freebase.com/api/trans/image_thumb/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000000e27776%3Ferrorid=%252Ffr eebase%252Fno_image_png&maxheight=500&mode=fit&maxwidth=500

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50235_36587519026_2330_n.jpg

http://video.mail.ru/mail/korrespandent/774/i-783.jpg

Opinions?

[Dr. van Winkle]

Pred. Baltid with Mtebid influence or Baltid+Mtebid.

[Bloodraven]

Pred. Baltid with Mtebid influence or Baltid+Mtebid.

There's nothing even remotely Baltid about her.
I think she's pred. pontid with some Armenoid+Iranid.

[Dr. van Winkle]

There's nothing even remotely Baltid about her.
I think she's pred. pontid with some Armenoid+Iranid.

Armenoids and Iranids are long-and narrow-faced, while her face is only slightly elongated and rather broad, as far as one can tell from the pictures.

[Bloodraven]

Armenoids and Iranids are long-and narrow-faced, while her face is only slightly elongated and rather broad, as far as one can tell from the pictures.

Broad face is actually typical for Caucasian Armenoid types, especially in her case.

[Dr. van Winkle]

Broad face is actually typical for Caucasian Armenoid types, especially in her case.

Isn't that like saying every Norwegian is Borreby? This approach fails to explain the variation within the populations. A Norwegian or Swede for example can be Borreby, Alpinoid, Nordid, Dinarid, Baltid or Balto-Cromagnoid.

Armenoids are long- and narrow-faced by definition. However, in the Russian school of anthropology, there is mention of a so called Caucasionid race, which is a broad-faced type.

[Bloodraven]

Armenoids are long- and narrow-faced by definition

To the contrary. Wide face is their most notorious feature. I think you are confusing Armenoid with Dinarid, which are similar but Dinarid is somewhat more progressive.

[Raskolnikov]

The Caucasionid/Mtebid type is probably the result of Baltid admixture in the Armenids at Russia's border. Likewise, I think many Pontids examples are rather Baltid influenced, with the actual Pontid being more Mediterranid.

I looked at an assortment of examples offline and tried to put them together by appearance. The lighter-broader Pontids and Mtebid examples looked similar and at the least explicable by Baltid admixture.

[Padre Organtino]

Mtebids proper i.e. Georgian type is more like the result of Alpinoid admix into Armenoids. Now Caucasions that are often found along Caucasus ridge both in Georgia and North Caucasus evolved from Armenoids admixed with archaic Cromagnids.

[Padre Organtino]

And Chechens additionally to Crom admixture often have Balt and Ost Balt inputs like this fellow

http://xronika.az/uploads/photo_archive/sulim-yamadaev1.jpg

http://orenburg.kp.ru/f/12/image/46/28/602846.jpg

http://www.stringer.ru/LoadedImages/2008/04/18/yamadaevkadyrov.jpg

Sulim Yamadaev - Chechen warlord at the service of Russian Army.

[Aviane]

Baltid/Alpine.

She could for definite fit into Eastern Europe and Central Europe.

[Bloodraven]

Baltid/Alpine.

She could for definite fit into Eastern Europe and Central Europe.


What do you mean by Eastern-Europe? She definitely won't pass as a Russian(or as other East-Slavic for that matter).
I think you guys overestimate the Baltid influence in Northern-Caucasus.

[safinator]

Mtebid + Baltid