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Kostek
03-05-2026, 07:26 PM
Found this on a Polish blogpost, supposedly these are the haplogroups of 30 Lusatian Culture samples from Papowo Biskupie dated 1045–752 BC.

PB_1 – Male Y – R1a1a1b1 (Z283), mtDNA H1
PB_2 – Child Y-, mtDNA U5a1
PB_3 – Female mtDNA T2b
PB_4 – Male Y R1a1a1b1a (Z282), mtDNA J1c
PB_5 – Female mtDNA H
PB_6 – Male Y- I2a1 (P37), mtDNA U5a1
PB_7 – Female mtDNA K1a
PB_8 – Male Y I2a1 (P37), mtDNA T2
PB_9 – Female mtDNA H
PB_10 – Child Y -, mtDNA U5b
PB_11 – Female mtDNA T2b
PB_12 – Female mtDNA H (H1 or H3)
PB_13 – Female mtDNA U5a1
PB_14 – Male Y R1a1a1b1a-Z282, mtDNA H
PB_15 – Female mtDNA H1
PB_16 – Male R1a1a1b1a-Z282, mtDNA J1c
PB_17 – Female mtDNA K1a
PB_18 – Male Y R1a1a1b1-Z283, mtDNA T2b
PB_19 – Female mtDNA H (subclade H1)
PB_20 – Male Y R1a1a1b1-Z283/Z282, mtDNA U5a1
PB_21 – Female mtDNA T2b
PB_22 – Male Y R1a1a1b1a-Z282, mtDNA H
PB_23 – Female mtDNA H1
PB_24 – Male Y R1a1a1b1a -Z282, mtDNA U5a1
PB_25 – Female mtDNA H
PB_26 – Male Y R1a1a1b1a-Z282, mtDNA U5a1
PB_27 – Female mtDNA T2b
PB_28 – Child Y-, mtDNA H1
PB_29 – Male Y R1a1a1b1-Z283, mtDNA J1c
PB_ 30 – Female mtDNA K1a.

YDNA:
R1a-Z282: 6
R1a-Z283: 3
I2a1: 2

mtDNA:
H: 11
U5: 7
T2: 6
J1c: 3
K1a: 2

Katarzyna
03-05-2026, 07:41 PM
That‘s a lot of U5. Modern “Lusatians” have more H.

gixajo
03-05-2026, 07:43 PM
I am R1a-Z282 and H1.

I am Lusatian.

Southern Lusatian, more specifically.

Why don΄t you post a link of that blog?

Katarzyna
03-05-2026, 07:45 PM
I am R1a-Z282 and H1.

I am Lusatian.

Southern Lusatian, more specifically.

Move to Poland after your retirement. You apparently belong here :)

Kostek
03-05-2026, 07:53 PM
I am R1a-Z282 and H1.

I am Lusatian.

Southern Lusatian, more specifically.

Why don΄t you post a link of that blog?

The whole discussion is happening in the comment section. These samples were discovered in 2024 so I expect we will see the full paper soon. Really hoping for autosomal results, as we have only 6 Lusatian samples so far, and these are outliers from Silesia and Ukraine.
https://histslov.wordpress.com/2024/11/17/pokrewienstwo-jezyka-tocharskiego-z-jezykami-slowianskimi-weryfikacja-dotychczasowych-badan-nad-jezykiem-i-pochodzeniem-tocharow/

Kostek
03-05-2026, 08:05 PM
I gave ChatGPT these mtDNA in precent and asked him to compare it to European countries and find the best match. His answer was :
1. Poland
2. Lithuania
3. Latvia
4. Belarus
5. Ukraine

gixajo
03-05-2026, 09:10 PM
Move to Poland after your retirement. You apparently belong here :)

I am fine here, thanks.

Kostek
03-06-2026, 09:20 AM
That‘s a lot of U5. Modern “Lusatians” have more H.

I would be suprised if it was elsewise. U5 is typical Corded Ware haplogroup.