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Peterski
03-05-2026, 07:52 PM
Compare yourself to state averages for White Americans in Eurogenes K15, in this link:

https://pastebin.com/gaEBNusA

Use Vahaduo - https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

These are the sample sizes for each state:

https://i.postimg.cc/zznXTPg8/sample-sizes.png

https://i.postimg.cc/zznXTPg8/sample-sizes.png

Many thanks to J. Ketch / Creoda who contributed around half of samples in this dataset.

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Edit:

Use this tool to generate simulated G25 coordinates from K15:

https://allelocator.ovh/simulatedg25.html

Check also my video about European colonization of the USA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmtMaNilerM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmtMaNilerM

Scandal
03-05-2026, 07:53 PM
Finally a non-G25 dataset that is new.

Scandal
03-05-2026, 07:55 PM
distances are large, i could propably find individuals genetically close to me in NYC and Chicago land

Distance to: univ
10.42448560 Michigan(n=31)
11.89808388 North_Dakota(n=10)
14.14803873 Illinois(n=41)
15.95009404 Wisconsin(n=65)
16.52602493 Connecticut(n=29)
17.32473954 New_York(n=84)
18.17209124 Pennsylvania(n=82)
18.68056744 Massachusetts(n=32)
18.76254780 Minnesota(n=27)
18.81614466 New_Jersey(n=30)
19.48619768 Maryland(n=37)
19.72401075 New_Mexico(n=2)
20.90981588 Ohio(n=51)
21.41150158 South_Dakota(n=7)
22.11093621 California(n=60)
22.15427950 Montana(n=5)
22.35703021 Washington(n=25)
22.40265163 Nebraska(n=24)
22.65729463 Texas(n=37)
22.74724159 Kansas(n=20)
22.80348438 Florida(n=28)
22.82319215 New_Hampshire(n=14)
23.04946637 Idaho(n=12)
23.21860246 Missouri(n=25)
23.25009247 Rhode_Island(n=14)

RareNightmare
03-05-2026, 08:11 PM
What's the average admixture of each region?

Scandal
03-05-2026, 08:13 PM
What's the average admixture of each region?

Distance to: English
1.07995370 Arkansas(n=39)
1.15728130 Kentucky(n=65)
1.57184605 Georgia(n=50)
1.73729675 Maine(n=30)
1.78471286 Utah(n=52)
1.80074984 Alabama(n=73)
1.82370502 South_Carolina(n=52)
1.89214164 Virginia(n=49)
1.90654137 Tennessee(n=47)
1.92577257 Delaware(n=9)
1.93038856 Mississippi(n=22)
2.05297345 North_Carolina(n=74)
2.12214514 Oklahoma(n=27)
2.14737049 Colorado(n=5)
2.20633180 West_Wirginia(n=43)
2.24236482 Indiana(n=57)
2.30354075 Iowa(n=34)
2.45083659 Oregon(n=18)
2.52398494 Wyoming(n=5)
2.62101126 Idaho(n=12)
3.25993865 Arizona(n=5)
3.43153027 Nebraska(n=24)
3.58212228 Texas(n=37)
3.62352039 Missouri(n=25)
3.64687537 New_Hampshire(n=14)
3.73622804 Washington(n=25)
3.99224248 Kansas(n=20)
4.09257865 Vermont(n=5)
4.18684846 Florida(n=28)
5.16802670 California(n=60)
5.25427445 Ohio(n=51)
5.40806805 Rhode_Island(n=14)
5.75752551 Montana(n=5)
6.21825538 Maryland(n=37)
7.90084806 Minnesota(n=27)
8.19687135 Louisiana(n=97)
8.33084630 South_Dakota(n=7)
8.45910752 Pennsylvania(n=82)
9.13386008 Massachusetts(n=32)
10.24268031 Wisconsin(n=65)
10.91294186 Connecticut(n=29)
11.87120044 Illinois(n=41)
12.34138161 New_Jersey(n=30)
13.01477622 New_York(n=84)
15.64990735 New_Mexico(n=2)
15.94732579 North_Dakota(n=10)
16.39703327 Michigan(n=31)

Peterski
03-05-2026, 08:33 PM
What's the average admixture of each region?

When using the official K15 datasheet from GEDmatch:


Distance to: Alabama_White(n=73)
2.05350919 Southwest_English
2.46627249 Southeast_English
4.28369000 Irish
4.87010267 West_Scottish
5.11989258 North_Dutch


Distance to: Arizona_White(n=5)
2.57044743 Southeast_English
3.66753323 Southwest_English
4.77501832 West_Scottish
4.90072444 Irish
5.07012820 Danish


Distance to: Arkansas_White(n=40)
2.70201776 Southwest_English
2.94300866 Southeast_English
3.67079011 North_Dutch
4.25459751 Irish
4.39926130 West_Scottish


Distance to: California_White(n=60)
2.59239272 South_Dutch
4.69571081 Southwest_English
5.42852650 Southeast_English
5.82619087 North_German
6.32915476 West_German


Distance to: Colorado_White(n=5)
2.79055550 Southwest_English
4.22681913 Southeast_English
5.21432642 North_Dutch
5.72656965 Danish
5.77848596 Irish


Distance to: Connecticut_White(n=29)
5.02230027 South_Dutch
6.91674779 West_German
7.37041383 East_German
8.23503491 French
8.53618767 North_German


Distance to: Delaware_White(n=9)
2.83432532 Southwest_English
3.56390236 Southeast_English
4.33816782 Orcadian
4.63971982 North_Dutch
4.92936101 West_Scottish


Distance to: Florida_White(n=28)
3.39751380 South_Dutch
3.50529599 Southwest_English
4.53317769 Southeast_English
6.05540255 North_German
6.55853642 West_German


Distance to: Georgia_White(n=96)
2.08956933 Southwest_English
2.09754619 Southeast_English
3.88293703 Irish
4.28360829 West_Scottish
4.47290733 North_Dutch


Distance to: Idaho_White(n=12)
3.54622334 Southwest_English
3.71611356 Southeast_English
4.39728325 North_Dutch
4.54470021 North_German
4.70339239 Danish


Distance to: Illinois_White(n=107)
4.64641798 North_German
5.34557761 South_Dutch
6.98984263 West_German
7.45766720 Danish
7.54485918 East_German


Distance to: Indiana_White(n=57)
2.79299123 Southwest_English
3.43997093 Southeast_English
4.88100400 North_Dutch
5.04816798 Danish
5.10511508 North_German


Distance to: Iowa_White(n=34)
3.73570609 North_Dutch
3.74404861 Southwest_English
3.81157448 Southeast_English
4.20082135 Danish
4.67156291 North_German


Distance to: Kansas_White(n=20)
3.97326063 Southwest_English
4.04356279 South_Dutch
4.10151192 Southeast_English
4.50934585 North_German
5.83157783 Irish


Distance to: Kentucky_White(n=130)
2.01238664 Southwest_English
2.66324989 Southeast_English
4.52039821 Irish
4.64868799 North_Dutch
4.76234186 West_Scottish


Distance to: Louisiana_White(n=97)
3.67509184 South_Dutch
4.17511676 French
6.69452762 Southwest_English
7.37210960 West_German
8.15486971 Southeast_English


Distance to: Maine_White(n=30)
1.62456148 Southwest_English
2.75027271 Southeast_English
4.83757170 Irish
5.25178065 North_Dutch
5.26653586 West_Scottish


Distance to: Maryland_White(n=37)
3.99192936 North_German
4.62917919 South_Dutch
6.41077218 West_German
6.60358236 Danish
6.77842902 Southwest_English


Distance to: Massachusetts_White(n=82)
1.14485807 South_Dutch
6.19423926 West_German
6.30862109 Southwest_English
6.48651678 North_German
6.94840269 Southeast_English


Distance to: Michigan_White(n=72)
5.31574078 East_German
6.86419697 North_German
7.18790651 South_Dutch
7.91881936 West_German
9.58164913 Danish


Distance to: Minnesota_White(n=27)
6.12470407 North_German
6.79339385 Norwegian
6.83328618 Danish
7.05358065 Swedish
7.05637301 North_Dutch


Distance to: Mississippi_White(n=54)
1.72632558 Southeast_English
2.04034311 Southwest_English
3.95880032 Irish
4.27590926 West_Scottish
4.76392695 Danish


Distance to: Missouri_White(n=59)
2.50423641 Southwest_English
3.35111922 Southeast_English
5.00317899 South_Dutch
5.42248098 Irish
5.48931690 North_Dutch


Distance to: Montana_White(n=5)
4.16920856 South_Dutch
5.51801595 North_German
5.53357931 Southwest_English
5.73809202 Southeast_English
7.00309931 Irish


Distance to: Nebraska_White(n=24)
4.15468410 Southwest_English
4.86152240 Southeast_English
4.93288962 North_Dutch
4.98640151 North_German
5.42062727 Danish


Distance to: New_Hampshire_White(n=14)
3.99941246 Southeast_English
4.04728304 Southwest_English
4.10600779 North_German
4.93016227 South_Dutch
5.33691859 Danish


Distance to: New_Jersey_White(n=30)
5.97308128 South_Dutch
6.31890813 French
7.14974125 West_German
10.92058149 North_German
11.25152434 East_German


Distance to: New_York_White(n=175)
4.50954543 South_Dutch
6.16583328 West_German
6.40024218 French
9.20211932 North_German
10.19795077 Southwest_English


Distance to: North_Carolina_White(n=102)
1.90026314 Southwest_English
2.08067297 Southeast_English
4.14684217 Irish
4.65808974 West_Scottish
5.32280002 North_Dutch


Distance to: North_Dakota_White(n=10)
5.33346979 East_German
7.86654943 Southwest_Finnish
8.74426669 Austrian
8.88926319 Hungarian
10.99526262 North_German


Distance to: Ohio_White(n=100)
3.42124246 South_Dutch
4.72238287 North_German
4.83190439 Southwest_English
5.34270531 Southeast_English
5.99603202 West_German


Distance to: Oklahoma_White(n=27)
2.54886249 Southwest_English
3.39097331 Southeast_English
5.14342298 Irish
5.28404201 North_Dutch
5.53475383 West_Scottish


Distance to: Oregon_White(n=18)
2.81783605 Southeast_English
3.37428511 Southwest_English
3.98811986 Irish
4.14270443 North_German
4.31003480 Danish


Distance to: Pennsylvania_White(n=179)
3.11326195 South_Dutch
5.38319608 North_German
5.66135143 West_German
6.96461054 Southwest_English
7.45224798 Southeast_English


Distance to: Rhode_Island_White(n=14)
4.29059436 South_Dutch
4.51869450 Southwest_English
5.20179777 West_German
5.87101354 Southeast_English
7.52968791 North_German


Distance to: South_Carolina_White(n=52)
2.21664160 Southwest_English
3.07985389 Southeast_English
4.93361936 Irish
5.05633266 North_Dutch
5.33770550 Danish


Distance to: South_Dakota_White(n=7)
7.17286554 North_German
7.86055978 South_Dutch
8.59178678 Danish
8.67125135 Southeast_English
8.99625478 North_Dutch


Distance to: Tennessee_White(n=95)
2.36795270 Southwest_English
2.81350315 Southeast_English
4.58799520 Irish
4.59157925 North_Dutch
4.97628375 Danish


Distance to: Texas_White(n=97)
2.54399292 Southwest_English
2.99364327 Southeast_English
4.98148572 Irish
5.10862995 North_Dutch
5.22653805 Danish


Distance to: Utah_White(n=90)
1.62104904 Irish
1.83855922 Southeast_English
2.00312256 West_Scottish
3.75301212 Southwest_English
3.91428154 Orcadian


Distance to: Vermont_White(n=5)
3.21847790 Southwest_English
5.43039593 Southeast_English
6.52320473 South_Dutch
7.07185973 North_Dutch
7.21898192 West_German


Distance to: Virginia_White(n=87)
2.22040537 Southwest_English
3.00173283 Southeast_English
4.97203178 Irish
5.31059319 North_Dutch
5.42177093 West_Scottish


Distance to: Washington_White(n=25)
4.35756813 Southwest_English
4.61660048 Southeast_English
4.83307356 North_German
4.91200570 South_Dutch
5.24051524 North_Dutch


Distance to: West_Wirginia_White(n=43)
2.13511124 Southwest_English
3.20238973 Southeast_English
5.43448250 Irish
5.43526448 South_Dutch
5.63514862 North_Dutch


Distance to: Wisconsin_White(n=65)
5.49432434 East_German
6.24181865 North_German
8.41446968 South_Dutch
9.34046573 Danish
9.64842474 North_Dutch


Distance to: Wyoming_White(n=5)
2.13309634 Southwest_English
2.67269527 Southeast_English
5.07805081 Irish
5.44660445 West_Scottish
5.72091776 North_Dutch

RareNightmare
03-05-2026, 09:20 PM
I don't have K15 coords myself. Only G25.

Coastal Elite
03-05-2026, 09:22 PM
Distance to: CE
4.41455547 New_Jersey(n=30)
4.93667905 New_York(n=84)
6.97916184 Connecticut(n=29)
7.07532331 Massachusetts(n=32)
8.16668231 Pennsylvania(n=82)
8.91737069 Louisiana(n=97)
9.45647926 Rhode_Island(n=14)
9.58746578 California(n=60)
9.95040703 Ohio(n=51)
9.95677157 Montana(n=5)
10.36647963 Maryland(n=37)
10.60954287 Kansas(n=20)
10.62393995 Florida(n=28)
10.93650310 Missouri(n=25)
10.98114748 Texas(n=37)
10.99497158 Washington(n=25)
11.90743465 Nebraska(n=24)
11.92404713 New_Hampshire(n=14)
12.10602742 Wyoming(n=5)
12.14588819 Illinois(n=41)
12.25696537 Indiana(n=57)
12.29336813 Idaho(n=12)
12.40285854 West_Wirginia(n=43)
12.46628253 Virginia(n=49)
12.47270620 South_Dakota(n=7)

1959 USA Immigrants Map (https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1bm71bu/a_1959_map_showing_the_origins_of_immigrants/#lightbox)

J. Ketch
03-05-2026, 09:22 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/rTng5HfW/Vahaduo-Custom-PCA-(1).png
https://i.postimg.cc/5x9qC5vZ/Vahaduo-Custom-PCA-(2).png

Peterski
03-05-2026, 09:26 PM
When using this dataset instead of the official GEDmatch one:

https://universe-apricity.github.io/Calculators/eu-k15-averages.html


Distance to: Alabama_White(n=73)
1.17562749 English_Southeast
1.80074984 English
1.99198394 French_Brittany
1.99579558 English_Midlands
2.16870929 English_Southwest


Distance to: Arizona_White(n=5)
3.13977706 English_Southeast
3.25993865 English
3.27562208 English_Midlands
3.47074920 French_Brittany
3.48562763 English_Southwest


Distance to: Arkansas_White(n=40)
0.78064076 English_Midlands
1.00044990 English
1.23535420 English_Southeast
1.43370150 English_North
1.70061753 English_Southwest


Distance to: California_White(n=60)
2.27769620 Belgian
2.68033580 Dutch_South
2.92781488 Afrikaner
3.41675284 French_Brittany
4.06301612 French_North-East


Distance to: Colorado_White(n=5)
1.90049993 English_Midlands
2.01553963 English_Southeast
2.14737049 English
2.19904525 English_Southwest
2.71046122 English_North


Distance to: Connecticut_White(n=29)
3.46111254 French_Alsace
3.47630551 German_Bavarian
4.65644714 Swiss_German
4.94540190 Austria-Burgenland
5.69188018 French_North-East


Distance to: Delaware_White(n=9)
1.69567096 English_Midlands
1.90283998 English_Southwest
1.92577257 English
2.23203943 English_North
2.31067090 English_Southeast


Distance to: Florida_White(n=28)
2.00124961 Dutch_South
2.13098569 Belgian
2.34260539 French_Brittany
3.07559750 Afrikaner
3.27320943 English_Southeast


Distance to: Georgia_White(n=96)
0.83982141 English_Southeast
1.11063045 English
1.29923054 English_Midlands
1.65393470 English_Southwest
1.74135005 English_North


Distance to: Idaho_White(n=12)
1.92657728 English_Southeast
2.55182288 English_Midlands
2.62101126 English
2.99753232 Dutch_South
3.15187246 English_North


Distance to: Illinois_White(n=107)
4.64641798 German_North
4.83685848 Afrikaner
5.40454438 Dutch_South
5.71756941 Belgian
6.14745476 German_Bavarian


Distance to: Indiana_White(n=57)
1.37746143 English_Southeast
2.14380503 English_Midlands
2.24236482 English
2.49349153 French_Brittany
2.56419578 Dutch_South


Distance to: Iowa_White(n=34)
1.78485294 English_Southeast
2.05509124 English_Midlands
2.30354075 English
2.49625720 Dutch
2.76443484 English_North


Distance to: Kansas_White(n=20)
2.99030099 French_Brittany
3.08907753 English_Southeast
3.36854568 Dutch_South
3.56095493 Belgian
3.66513301 Afrikaner


Distance to: Kentucky_White(n=130)
0.73912110 English_Southeast
0.98030607 English_Midlands
1.07065401 English
1.49829904 English_Southwest
1.84772834 English_North


Distance to: Louisiana_White(n=97)
2.01784539 French_North-East
3.80111826 Belgian
4.63010799 French_Central
5.01223503 Swiss_German
5.05475024 German_Bavarian


Distance to: Maine_White(n=30)
1.14000000 English_Southeast
1.73729675 English
1.76516288 English_Southwest
1.79279112 English_Midlands
2.00252341 French_Brittany


Distance to: Maryland_White(n=37)
3.87836306 Afrikaner
3.99192936 German_North
4.23469007 Dutch_South
4.58225927 Belgian
5.42664722 English_Southeast


Distance to: Massachusetts_White(n=82)
2.86884994 Belgian
3.30607017 German_Bavarian
3.37361824 French_North-East
3.47946835 Afrikaner
3.84333189 Dutch_South


Distance to: Michigan_White(n=72)
4.66871503 Austria-Burgenland
5.31574078 German_East
6.64809747 Afrikaner
6.86419697 German_North
7.32763263 German_Bavarian


Distance to: Minnesota_White(n=27)
5.27155575 Swedish_North
6.12470407 German_North
6.21440263 Swedish
6.37456665 Norway
6.48953003 Dutch


Distance to: Mississippi_White(n=54)
1.08572556 English_Southeast
1.38390751 English
1.59037731 English_Midlands
1.75214155 English_Southwest
2.00499377 English_North


Distance to: Missouri_White(n=59)
1.56499201 English_Southeast
2.09654478 French_Brittany
2.37307817 Dutch_South
2.46635358 English_Midlands
2.52776581 English


Distance to: Montana_White(n=5)
3.16156607 Afrikaner
4.05002469 Belgian
4.15545425 Dutch_South
4.54730690 French_Brittany
4.91791623 English_Southeast


Distance to: Nebraska_White(n=24)
2.28554151 Dutch_South
2.70229532 English_Southeast
3.21476282 English_Midlands
3.43153027 English
3.44302193 Dutch


Distance to: New_Hampshire_White(n=14)
2.96875395 English_Southeast
3.08253143 French_Brittany
3.64687537 English
3.73767307 English_Midlands
4.05788122 Dutch_South


Distance to: New_Jersey_White(n=30)
3.36605110 Swiss_German
3.55225281 French_Alsace
3.85760288 German_Bavarian
4.17818142 Austria-Tyrol
5.35394247 French_North-East


Distance to: New_York_White(n=175)
2.85884592 German_Bavarian
3.08703741 French_Alsace
3.34341143 Swiss_German
4.33543539 French_North-East
5.47516210 Pennsylvania_Dutch


Distance to: North_Carolina_White(n=102)
1.40598720 English_Southeast
1.84483062 English
1.87464663 French_Brittany
2.07576492 English_Southwest
2.08664803 English_Midlands


Distance to: North_Dakota_White(n=10)
5.33346979 German_East
6.15373058 Czech
7.21751342 Kaykavian_Croatian
7.80757965 Austria-Burgenland
7.86654943 Finnish_Southwest


Distance to: Ohio_White(n=100)
2.58259559 Dutch_South
2.75726314 Belgian
3.04527503 Afrikaner
3.80432648 English_Southeast
3.83716041 French_Brittany


Distance to: Oklahoma_White(n=27)
1.63996951 English_Southeast
2.07903824 English_Midlands
2.12214514 English
2.31138487 English_Southwest
2.58955595 French_Brittany


Distance to: Oregon_White(n=18)
1.92686274 English_Southeast
2.45083659 English
2.61528201 English_Midlands
2.81240111 English_North
3.10844012 Welsh


Distance to: Pennsylvania_White(n=179)
3.44432867 Afrikaner
3.60285998 Belgian
3.95705699 Dutch_South
4.07435885 German_Bavarian
4.82138984 French_North-East


Distance to: Rhode_Island_White(n=14)
1.58429795 Belgian
2.54096438 Dutch_South
3.82408159 Afrikaner
3.91926013 French_North-East
4.19708232 French_Brittany


Distance to: South_Carolina_White(n=52)
0.98989898 English_Southeast
1.78745629 English_Midlands
1.82370502 English
2.17389052 French_Brittany
2.22663423 English_Southwest


Distance to: South_Dakota_White(n=7)
7.04322369 Afrikaner
7.17286554 German_North
7.46237898 Dutch_South
7.84312438 English_Southeast
7.89722736 Belgian


Distance to: Tennessee_White(n=95)
0.75299402 English_Southeast
1.51944069 English_Midlands
1.57924032 English
2.21228389 English_Southwest
2.31036794 English_North


Distance to: Texas_White(n=97)
1.31981059 English_Southeast
2.12000000 French_Brittany
2.24428162 English_Midlands
2.25656819 English
2.62118294 Dutch_South


Distance to: Utah_White(n=90)
1.78952508 Irish_Leinster
1.84797186 Irish_Munster
1.91389655 Irish
1.94635557 Scottish
2.11657743 Irish_Ulster


Distance to: Vermont_White(n=5)
3.23433146 Dutch_South
3.64987671 English_Southeast
3.83317101 English_Southwest
3.83328841 French_Brittany
3.97717236 English_Midlands


Distance to: Virginia_White(n=87)
1.21466045 English_Southeast
2.01074613 English_Midlands
2.02049499 English
2.03019703 French_Brittany
2.40412146 English_Southwest


Distance to: Washington_White(n=25)
2.20823459 Dutch_South
2.89565191 English_Southeast
3.08064928 Belgian
3.51540894 English_Midlands
3.70448377 Afrikaner


Distance to: West_Wirginia_White(n=43)
1.47387245 English_Southeast
1.71732350 French_Brittany
2.12457054 English_Midlands
2.20633180 English
2.36543865 English_Southwest


Distance to: Wisconsin_White(n=65)
5.49432434 German_East
6.24181865 German_North
6.48029320 Austria-Burgenland
7.83213253 Afrikaner
8.66183006 German_Bavarian


Distance to: Wyoming_White(n=5)
1.93362354 English_Southeast
2.34968083 French_Brittany
2.52398494 English
2.53511341 English_Midlands
2.72761801 English_Southwest

This is also interesting:

Distance to: English
0.97195679 Utah_White(n=29)
1.00044990 Arkansas_White(n=40)
1.07065401 Kentucky_White(n=130)
1.11063045 Georgia_White(n=96)
1.38390751 Mississippi_White(n=54)
1.57924032 Tennessee_White(n=95)
1.73729675 Maine_White(n=30)
1.80074984 Alabama_White(n=73)
1.82370502 South_Carolina_White(n=52)
1.84483062 North_Carolina_White(n=102)
1.92577257 Delaware_White(n=9)
2.02049499 Virginia_White(n=87)
2.12214514 Oklahoma_White(n=27)
2.14737049 Colorado_White(n=5)
2.20633180 West_Wirginia_White(n=43)
2.24236482 Indiana_White(n=57)
2.25656819 Texas_White(n=97)
2.30354075 Iowa_White(n=34)
2.45083659 Oregon_White(n=18)
2.52398494 Wyoming_White(n=5)
2.52776581 Missouri_White(n=59)
2.62101126 Idaho_White(n=12)
2.75428757 Utah_White_with_CEU_1KGP(n=90)
3.25993865 Arizona_White(n=5)
3.43153027 Nebraska_White(n=24)
3.64687537 New_Hampshire_White(n=14)
3.73622804 Washington_White(n=25)
3.99224248 Kansas_White(n=20)
4.09257865 Vermont_White(n=5)
4.18684846 Florida_White(n=28)
4.75016842 Ohio_White(n=100)
5.16802670 California_White(n=60)
5.40806805 Rhode_Island_White(n=14)
5.75752551 Montana_White(n=5)
6.21825538 Maryland_White(n=37)
6.83109801 Massachusetts_White(n=82)
6.93087296 Pennsylvania_White(n=179)
7.51220341 Illinois_White(n=107)
7.90084806 Minnesota_White(n=27)
8.19687135 Louisiana_White(n=97)
8.33084630 South_Dakota_White(n=7)
9.90507950 Michigan_White(n=72)
10.24268031 Wisconsin_White(n=65)
10.65033333 New_York_White(n=175)
10.91294186 Connecticut_White(n=29)
12.34138161 New_Jersey_White(n=30)
15.64990735 New_Mexico_White(n=2)
15.94732579 North_Dakota_White(n=10)


I don't have K15 coords myself. Only G25.

Create a GEDmatch account, upload your raw DNA data, and then you will have K15 coords.

RareNightmare
03-05-2026, 09:31 PM
147128

gixajo
03-05-2026, 09:37 PM
I don't have K15 coords myself. Only G25.

These are the simulated Scaled G25 coordinates made with those Eurogenes K15 averages:


Alabama(n=73),0.133038,0.142098,0.064026,0.042665, 0.042982,0.016515,0.004928,0.004775,0.005863,0.007 313,-0.005371,0.005620,-0.012890,-0.008122,0.013381,0.002893,-0.003489,0.001322,0.001050,0.001854,0.004359,0.003 816,-0.001936,0.005423,-0.001202
Arizona(n=5),0.134967,0.143666,0.062890,0.040128,0 .041783,0.015645,0.004169,0.004436,0.006410,0.0059 88,-0.002270,0.005155,-0.011673,-0.012391,0.015453,0.005208,-0.005250,0.001558,0.001126,0.001094,0.003235,0.005 334,-0.002185,0.006198,-0.001868
Arkansas(n=39),0.136925,0.142404,0.065299,0.044304 ,0.043735,0.017293,0.004991,0.005216,0.005704,0.00 7120,-0.005417,0.005443,-0.012617,-0.008091,0.013374,0.003558,-0.003088,0.001379,0.001290,0.002311,0.004485,0.004 273,-0.001976,0.006196,-0.001358
California(n=60),0.133532,0.139945,0.059768,0.0369 03,0.040446,0.014174,0.002851,0.003235,0.006076,0. 007514,-0.004587,0.004686,-0.010824,-0.006531,0.011323,0.002460,-0.003019,0.000934,0.000644,0.001739,0.003911,0.003 000,-0.001549,0.004445,-0.000941
Colorado(n=5),0.136621,0.141236,0.063783,0.044554, 0.043126,0.016786,0.005441,0.006394,0.006059,0.007 505,-0.004511,0.005789,-0.013019,-0.009728,0.013516,0.003369,-0.002958,0.000992,0.000571,0.001764,0.003459,0.004 036,-0.001707,0.005463,-0.001518
Connecticut(n=29),0.133441,0.142075,0.055693,0.032 786,0.038356,0.012834,0.004158,0.005624,0.004743,0 .004281,-0.003024,0.002297,-0.005851,-0.001456,0.006327,0.001232,-0.001443,0.000210,0.000252,0.001691,0.003018,0.001 557,-0.000636,0.002830,-0.000554
Delaware(n=9),0.136654,0.142644,0.063540,0.043319, 0.043727,0.016710,0.004663,0.005095,0.006728,0.008 490,-0.005359,0.005996,-0.013598,-0.009919,0.014552,0.004110,-0.003272,0.001394,0.001114,0.002269,0.004350,0.004 603,-0.002105,0.006500,-0.001525
Florida(n=28),0.132108,0.143040,0.061126,0.038001, 0.042731,0.014850,0.004244,0.005187,0.007269,0.008 547,-0.004372,0.004961,-0.011281,-0.007358,0.011724,0.002576,-0.003022,0.000908,0.000575,0.001628,0.003773,0.003 187,-0.001586,0.004626,-0.001030
Idaho(n=12),0.134351,0.139534,0.066142,0.043471,0. 042664,0.016827,0.003792,0.003601,0.004748,0.00558 2,-0.004991,0.004734,-0.011192,-0.006187,0.011709,0.002780,-0.002779,0.001198,0.001202,0.002111,0.004255,0.003 659,-0.001674,0.005417,-0.001127
Indiana(n=57),0.135950,0.143024,0.064233,0.042403, 0.043120,0.016659,0.005259,0.005636,0.005512,0.006 248,-0.004403,0.005084,-0.011718,-0.007817,0.012454,0.003024,-0.003075,0.001082,0.000863,0.001714,0.003759,0.003 784,-0.001664,0.005219,-0.001293
Iowa(n=34),0.136685,0.141149,0.064339,0.043942,0.0 42169,0.016669,0.005495,0.005105,0.004143,0.004477 ,-0.004957,0.004960,-0.011653,-0.007260,0.012619,0.003302,-0.002923,0.001286,0.001247,0.002101,0.004111,0.004 058,-0.001764,0.005764,-0.001342
Kansas(n=20),0.133595,0.142581,0.061205,0.040449,0 .041419,0.015518,0.005603,0.005304,0.004609,0.0061 31,-0.005205,0.005057,-0.011750,-0.006448,0.011972,0.002360,-0.003223,0.001199,0.001062,0.001635,0.004228,0.003 228,-0.001730,0.004778,-0.000965
Louisiana(n=97),0.130111,0.142998,0.056111,0.02847 9,0.041906,0.010585,0.000867,0.002866,0.009774,0.0 14073,-0.004585,0.005476,-0.011901,-0.007985,0.011210,0.002072,-0.002773,0.000498,-0.000199,0.001427,0.003649,0.002159,-0.001466,0.003641,-0.000674
Maine(n=30),0.136467,0.141584,0.063238,0.042336,0. 043260,0.016519,0.003896,0.004508,0.007335,0.00890 3,-0.005164,0.005583,-0.012753,-0.008379,0.013122,0.003182,-0.003223,0.001228,0.000985,0.001979,0.004279,0.003 864,-0.001920,0.005609,-0.001203
Maryland(n=37),0.135174,0.142083,0.062433,0.042349 ,0.041017,0.017038,0.006279,0.006705,0.003800,0.00 2671,-0.003800,0.003373,-0.008358,-0.003625,0.009101,0.002033,-0.002123,0.000778,0.000908,0.001809,0.003488,0.002 908,-0.001126,0.004296,-0.000983
Minnesota(n=27),0.136899,0.133436,0.069565,0.05049 9,0.041631,0.018913,0.005908,0.007446,0.004830,-0.001465,-0.000876,0.001838,-0.005199,-0.004525,0.008070,0.002972,-0.001907,0.000543,0.000840,0.001879,0.001969,0.003 827,-0.000730,0.004762,-0.001537
Montana(n=5),0.128561,0.135411,0.059425,0.038097,0 .039990,0.015180,0.000948,0.000981,0.006631,0.0086 57,-0.006822,0.004075,-0.010029,-0.002661,0.010179,0.001807,-0.002724,0.001281,0.001330,0.003046,0.005738,0.002 658,-0.001798,0.004946,-0.000465
Nebraska(n=24),0.135509,0.140957,0.064549,0.042192 ,0.042166,0.016549,0.004520,0.004717,0.005447,0.00 5406,-0.004874,0.004550,-0.010731,-0.005944,0.011177,0.002698,-0.002255,0.000986,0.000943,0.002243,0.003974,0.003 450,-0.001493,0.005227,-0.001152
New_Hampshire(n=14),0.136380,0.141891,0.064872,0.0 43708,0.041867,0.017627,0.005099,0.004767,0.003967 ,0.004415,-0.004016,0.004944,-0.011520,-0.007323,0.012219,0.002540,-0.003520,0.001103,0.000874,0.001185,0.003558,0.003 590,-0.001588,0.004613,-0.001232
New_Jersey(n=30),0.130906,0.145030,0.047825,0.0227 48,0.035644,0.009813,0.003554,0.005067,0.005024,0. 007484,-0.003378,0.003108,-0.007202,-0.004233,0.008402,0.002301,-0.002377,0.000401,0.000118,0.001488,0.003241,0.001 812,-0.001006,0.003103,-0.000578
New_Mexico(n=2),0.126580,0.097953,0.067228,0.04049 4,0.028614,0.008134,-0.019226,-0.020856,0.004772,0.006461,-0.001455,0.003821,-0.008401,-0.003808,0.004548,-0.000074,0.000731,-0.000629,-0.000804,0.000472,0.000722,0.000106,0.000154,0.001 335,-0.000275
North_Dakota(n=10),0.135812,0.137805,0.069080,0.05 1924,0.041408,0.021113,0.009648,0.010135,0.000906,-0.008650,-0.001869,-0.001556,0.000928,0.007950,0.000552,-0.000954,-0.000423,0.000229,0.001381,0.002310,0.003118,0.001 254,0.000145,0.002230,-0.000341
Oklahoma(n=27),0.135388,0.136618,0.065995,0.043108 ,0.041139,0.016725,0.000969,0.000537,0.005513,0.00 7519,-0.004955,0.005690,-0.012981,-0.008592,0.013158,0.003207,-0.003091,0.001220,0.000987,0.001798,0.004019,0.003 877,-0.001827,0.005549,-0.001258
Oregon(n=18),0.136710,0.140197,0.066001,0.044540,0 .043455,0.017833,0.004837,0.004167,0.004687,0.0051 57,-0.005222,0.004999,-0.011853,-0.006374,0.012271,0.002651,-0.003272,0.001363,0.001362,0.001816,0.004443,0.003 805,-0.001804,0.005384,-0.001074
Rhode_Island(n=14),0.133123,0.146125,0.058025,0.03 3971,0.042107,0.014286,0.005080,0.005908,0.007158, 0.011288,-0.006626,0.005678,-0.012755,-0.006000,0.011185,0.002119,-0.001842,0.000919,0.000794,0.002117,0.004633,0.002 510,-0.001654,0.004864,-0.000608
South_Carolina(n=52),0.132777,0.141296,0.063120,0. 041986,0.043015,0.016516,0.004733,0.004840,0.00577 1,0.007246,-0.005055,0.005511,-0.012586,-0.008303,0.013212,0.003104,-0.003219,0.001195,0.000881,0.001856,0.004104,0.003 896,-0.001814,0.005437,-0.001264
South_Dakota(n=7),0.134146,0.108343,0.071348,0.048 234,0.031304,0.016309,-0.012256,-0.015645,0.003206,0.001805,-0.003450,0.003435,-0.008827,-0.004192,0.009369,0.002550,-0.002709,0.001320,0.001753,0.001808,0.003755,0.003 266,-0.001430,0.004969,-0.000801
Utah(n=52),0.136421,0.141493,0.066581,0.045198,0.0 43448,0.017952,0.005139,0.004534,0.005225,0.006425 ,-0.005161,0.006019,-0.013840,-0.010380,0.015466,0.004040,-0.004480,0.001722,0.001439,0.001815,0.004478,0.004 924,-0.002305,0.006413,-0.001560
Vermont(n=5),0.135718,0.143227,0.064487,0.039889,0 .044656,0.015200,0.002256,0.002423,0.007680,0.0112 29,-0.006713,0.006463,-0.014407,-0.006910,0.011911,0.001945,-0.001367,0.000796,0.000519,0.002170,0.004430,0.002 755,-0.001593,0.005041,-0.000855
Washington(n=25),0.134728,0.141267,0.061724,0.0398 73,0.040424,0.016099,0.005233,0.005392,0.005249,0. 005209,-0.004423,0.004501,-0.010554,-0.007072,0.011857,0.003309,-0.002893,0.001157,0.001110,0.001971,0.003839,0.003 757,-0.001646,0.005425,-0.001210
West_Wirginia(n=43),0.134058,0.142316,0.063394,0.0 40867,0.042422,0.016277,0.004091,0.004475,0.005993 ,0.007329,-0.003901,0.005591,-0.012556,-0.009918,0.013653,0.003521,-0.003567,0.001089,0.000633,0.001354,0.003415,0.004 076,-0.001759,0.005265,-0.001454
Wisconsin(n=65),0.137883,0.139671,0.067957,0.04913 0,0.043163,0.019258,0.007343,0.008141,0.003417,-0.001449,-0.003246,0.001233,-0.004399,0.002370,0.004584,0.000249,-0.000854,0.000431,0.001119,0.002192,0.003450,0.001 932,-0.000487,0.003331,-0.000585
Wyoming(n=5),0.137783,0.143354,0.061179,0.038654,0 .042487,0.014925,0.004778,0.005111,0.005724,0.0087 27,-0.005330,0.005825,-0.013230,-0.009471,0.014150,0.003701,-0.003832,0.001392,0.001068,0.001877,0.004394,0.004 111,-0.002095,0.005780,-0.001282
Georgia(n=50),0.130467,0.142427,0.064121,0.043109, 0.043251,0.017298,0.005032,0.005197,0.006495,0.007 479,-0.004844,0.005429,-0.012441,-0.008496,0.013488,0.003251,-0.003653,0.001367,0.001125,0.001797,0.004245,0.004 093,-0.001970,0.005665,-0.001277
Illinois(n=41),0.135896,0.138936,0.065416,0.046166 ,0.041172,0.018149,0.006796,0.007676,0.002521,-0.002872,-0.002116,0.000719,-0.003139,0.002380,0.003805,0.000297,-0.000564,0.000120,0.000685,0.001875,0.002645,0.001 704,-0.000147,0.002737,-0.000664
Kentucky(n=65),0.134610,0.141561,0.063881,0.042707 ,0.042936,0.016242,0.004394,0.004374,0.005944,0.00 7274,-0.004777,0.005788,-0.013126,-0.009584,0.014055,0.003589,-0.003513,0.001298,0.000957,0.001762,0.003971,0.004 256,-0.001949,0.005777,-0.001436
Massachusetts(n=32),0.132799,0.142243,0.055376,0.0 32787,0.038493,0.012774,0.004491,0.005849,0.004927 ,0.005452,-0.002890,0.003299,-0.007766,-0.004727,0.008775,0.001979,-0.002504,0.000426,0.000172,0.001284,0.002871,0.002 221,-0.000966,0.003204,-0.000831
Michigan(n=31),0.135505,0.135748,0.069389,0.050803 ,0.041440,0.019853,0.007675,0.009819,0.002902,-0.007509,0.000572,-0.001700,0.001844,0.005605,-0.000335,-0.000198,0.000877,-0.000494,0.000475,0.001868,0.001192,0.001300,0.000 718,0.002040,-0.000705
Mississippi(n=22),0.134656,0.142648,0.063015,0.041 525,0.042975,0.016330,0.004106,0.004835,0.006893,0 .008212,-0.003871,0.005537,-0.012480,-0.010103,0.013871,0.003840,-0.003823,0.001233,0.000865,0.001469,0.003648,0.004 309,-0.001927,0.005641,-0.001457
Missouri(n=25),0.132891,0.142090,0.060210,0.038732 ,0.041587,0.014755,0.004569,0.004859,0.006097,0.00 7566,-0.005083,0.005084,-0.011647,-0.007346,0.012182,0.003227,-0.002636,0.001140,0.001030,0.002081,0.004142,0.003 604,-0.001746,0.005533,-0.001114
New_York(n=84),0.128776,0.142946,0.049040,0.023936 ,0.035377,0.010260,0.003878,0.005154,0.005094,0.00 5790,-0.003416,0.002416,-0.005903,-0.002237,0.006986,0.001579,-0.001945,0.000297,0.000143,0.001664,0.003254,0.001 390,-0.000784,0.002694,-0.000404
North_Carolina(n=74),0.132748,0.142797,0.063768,0. 042009,0.043280,0.016649,0.005080,0.005250,0.00615 3,0.008104,-0.004959,0.005826,-0.013218,-0.009338,0.014072,0.003199,-0.004005,0.001361,0.000976,0.001575,0.004192,0.004 040,-0.002026,0.005443,-0.001287
Ohio(n=51),0.135743,0.141283,0.061252,0.040215,0.0 40826,0.015751,0.005652,0.005972,0.003685,0.004292 ,-0.003925,0.004151,-0.009839,-0.005792,0.010673,0.002460,-0.002892,0.000914,0.000827,0.001494,0.003501,0.003 169,-0.001368,0.004401,-0.001056
Pennsylvania(n=82),0.134761,0.143073,0.059122,0.03 5852,0.040643,0.014290,0.004758,0.006263,0.005343, 0.005045,-0.003021,0.003049,-0.007375,-0.003413,0.007820,0.001674,-0.001815,0.000351,0.000307,0.001522,0.002965,0.002 156,-0.000835,0.003367,-0.000778
Tennessee(n=47),0.133097,0.142176,0.063165,0.04207 5,0.043139,0.016102,0.004851,0.004784,0.005493,0.0 07012,-0.005365,0.005496,-0.012587,-0.007809,0.012982,0.003146,-0.002807,0.001204,0.000996,0.002088,0.004246,0.003 872,-0.001807,0.005665,-0.001258
Texas(n=37),0.134420,0.140489,0.062409,0.040555,0. 041743,0.015615,0.003526,0.003465,0.005823,0.00659 1,-0.005316,0.004548,-0.010832,-0.005520,0.011478,0.002610,-0.003011,0.001240,0.001212,0.002254,0.004622,0.003 383,-0.001762,0.005204,-0.000956
Virginia(n=49),0.132871,0.141740,0.063272,0.041751 ,0.042112,0.016596,0.004777,0.004976,0.005580,0.00 7342,-0.004932,0.005568,-0.012653,-0.008674,0.013288,0.003210,-0.003241,0.001197,0.000899,0.001781,0.003973,0.003 882,-0.001824,0.005458,-0.001295

gixajo
03-05-2026, 09:39 PM
With K15 coords:

Target: gixajo
Distance: 1721.1932% / 17.21193172
95.6 Louisiana(n=97)
4.4 New_Mexico(n=2)


Distance to: gixajo
17.21949767 Louisiana(n=97)
19.42259251 New_Jersey(n=30)
19.57320107 New_York(n=84)
20.06509407 Massachusetts(n=32)
20.51674438 New_Mexico(n=2)
20.59690511 Connecticut(n=29)
20.74151152 California(n=60)
20.82079249 Rhode_Island(n=14)
20.88281351 Pennsylvania(n=82)
20.94876846 Montana(n=5)
20.97117784 Florida(n=28)
21.77116901 Vermont(n=5)
22.03065137 Kansas(n=20)
22.31452442 Ohio(n=51)
22.34819008 Texas(n=37)
22.64872844 West_Wirginia(n=43)
22.66005958 North_Carolina(n=74)
22.72677496 New_Hampshire(n=14)
22.74707674 Wyoming(n=5)
22.79926753 Maine(n=30)
22.80233979 Missouri(n=25)
22.85204367 Alabama(n=73)
22.94462682 South_Carolina(n=52)
22.97778928 Mississippi(n=22)
23.01551216 Virginia(n=49)

With Simulated G25 coords:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.4772% / 0.04477201
100.0 Louisiana(n=97)

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.04477201 Louisiana(n=97)
0.04776762 New_Jersey(n=30)
0.04994983 New_York(n=84)
0.05277564 Rhode_Island(n=14)
0.05553475 Massachusetts(n=32)
0.05706983 Florida(n=28)
0.05739204 Connecticut(n=29)
0.05758535 California(n=60)
0.05861235 Missouri(n=25)
0.05862951 Montana(n=5)
0.05881286 Vermont(n=5)
0.05899161 Pennsylvania(n=82)
0.05954305 Wyoming(n=5)
0.06120766 Mississippi(n=22)
0.06135004 Kansas(n=20)
0.06138693 West_Wirginia(n=43)
0.06169844 North_Carolina(n=74)
0.06171746 Texas(n=37)
0.06178050 Arizona(n=5)
0.06192511 Maine(n=30)
0.06206162 South_Carolina(n=52)
0.06206472 Virginia(n=49)
0.06221995 Tennessee(n=47)
0.06227177 Washington(n=25)
0.06257243 Georgia(n=50)

Figaro
03-05-2026, 09:41 PM
Against G25 sim:

Target: Figaro
Distance: 2.0851% / 0.02085073
51.2 North_Dakota(n=10)
35.0 New_York(n=84)
13.8 New_Mexico(n=2)

Distance to: Figaro
0.02502213 Illinois(n=41)
0.02760474 Connecticut(n=29)
0.02785878 Maryland(n=37)
0.02795708 Wisconsin(n=65)
0.02832785 Montana(n=5)
0.02833853 Minnesota(n=27)
0.02841948 Michigan(n=31)
0.02856279 Pennsylvania(n=82)
0.02938380 Ohio(n=51)
0.02946515 Massachusetts(n=32)
0.02955939 North_Dakota(n=10)
0.03027516 Washington(n=25)
0.03065383 Texas(n=37)
0.03065390 Nebraska(n=24)
0.03077084 California(n=60)
0.03116098 Idaho(n=12)
0.03143858 Kansas(n=20)
0.03212508 Missouri(n=25)
0.03227923 Iowa(n=34)
0.03228604 New_Hampshire(n=14)
0.03240478 Oregon(n=18)
0.03275030 Florida(n=28)
0.03305258 South_Carolina(n=52)
0.03320114 Virginia(n=49)
0.03324496 Tennessee(n=47)

Haha...closest match is my actual state. Fuck yes.

gixajo
03-05-2026, 09:43 PM
Finally we have something similar to that famous "Utah_White" reference present in many Gedmatch calculators.

Peterski
03-05-2026, 09:44 PM
Haha...closest match is my actual state. Fuck yes.

Very cool! You have a typical mixture of ancestries for your state! :)

Figaro
03-05-2026, 09:45 PM
Very cool! You have a typical mixture of ancestries for your state! :)

State as a whole, to emphasize. I'm not most typical in southern IL. But semantics on my part.

RareNightmare
03-05-2026, 10:42 PM
When using this dataset instead of the official GEDmatch one:

https://universe-apricity.github.io/Calculators/eu-k15-averages.html

Distance to: Alabama(n=73)
1.17562749 English_Southeast
1.80074984 English
1.99198394 French_Brittany
1.99579558 English_Midlands
2.16870929 English_Southwest

Distance to: Arizona(n=5)
3.13977706 English_Southeast
3.25993865 English
3.27562208 English_Midlands
3.47074920 French_Brittany
3.48562763 English_Southwest

Distance to: Arkansas(n=39)
0.83701852 English_Midlands
1.07995370 English
1.27353838 English_Southeast
1.52088790 English_North
1.75524927 English_Southwest

Distance to: California(n=60)
2.27769620 Belgian
2.68033580 Dutch_South
2.92781488 Afrikaner
3.41675284 French_Brittany
4.06301612 French_North-East

Distance to: Colorado(n=5)
1.90049993 English_Midlands
2.01553963 English_Southeast
2.14737049 English
2.19904525 English_Southwest
2.71046122 English_North

Distance to: Connecticut(n=29)
3.46111254 French_Alsace
3.47630551 German_Bavarian
4.65644714 Swiss_German
4.94540190 Austria-Burgenland
5.69188018 French_North-East

Distance to: Delaware(n=9)
1.69567096 English_Midlands
1.90283998 English_Southwest
1.92577257 English
2.23203943 English_North
2.31067090 English_Southeast

Distance to: Florida(n=28)
2.00124961 Dutch_South
2.13098569 Belgian
2.34260539 French_Brittany
3.07559750 Afrikaner
3.27320943 English_Southeast

Distance to: Idaho(n=12)
1.92657728 English_Southeast
2.55182288 English_Midlands
2.62101126 English
2.99753232 Dutch_South
3.15187246 English_North

Distance to: Indiana(n=57)
1.37746143 English_Southeast
2.14380503 English_Midlands
2.24236482 English
2.49349153 French_Brittany
2.56419578 Dutch_South

Distance to: Iowa(n=34)
1.78485294 English_Southeast
2.05509124 English_Midlands
2.30354075 English
2.49625720 Dutch
2.76443484 English_North

Distance to: Kansas(n=20)
2.99030099 French_Brittany
3.08907753 English_Southeast
3.36854568 Dutch_South
3.56095493 Belgian
3.66513301 Afrikaner

Distance to: Louisiana(n=97)
2.01784539 French_North-East
3.80111826 Belgian
4.63010799 French_Central
5.01223503 Swiss_German
5.05475024 German_Bavarian

Distance to: Maine(n=30)
1.14000000 English_Southeast
1.73729675 English
1.76516288 English_Southwest
1.79279112 English_Midlands
2.00252341 French_Brittany

Distance to: Maryland(n=37)
3.87836306 Afrikaner
3.99192936 German_North
4.23469007 Dutch_South
4.58225927 Belgian
5.42664722 English_Southeast

Distance to: Minnesota(n=27)
5.27155575 Swedish_North
6.12470407 German_North
6.21440263 Swedish
6.37456665 Norway
6.48953003 Dutch

Distance to: Montana(n=5)
3.16156607 Afrikaner
4.05002469 Belgian
4.15545425 Dutch_South
4.54730690 French_Brittany
4.91791623 English_Southeast

Distance to: Nebraska(n=24)
2.28554151 Dutch_South
2.70229532 English_Southeast
3.21476282 English_Midlands
3.43153027 English
3.44302193 Dutch

Distance to: New_Hampshire(n=14)
2.96875395 English_Southeast
3.08253143 French_Brittany
3.64687537 English
3.73767307 English_Midlands
4.05788122 Dutch_South

Distance to: New_Jersey(n=30)
3.36605110 Swiss_German
3.55225281 French_Alsace
3.85760288 German_Bavarian
4.17818142 Austria-Tyrol
5.35394247 French_North-East

Distance to: New_Mexico(n=2)
10.42469184 French_Alsace
10.43588520 Austria-Burgenland
10.54688106 Austria-Tyrol
10.86409683 Swiss_German
11.00607105 German_Bavarian

Distance to: North_Dakota(n=10)
5.33346979 German_East
6.15373058 Czech
7.21751342 Kaykavian_Croatian
7.80757965 Austria-Burgenland
7.86654943 Finnish_Southwest

Distance to: Oklahoma(n=27)
1.63996951 English_Southeast
2.07903824 English_Midlands
2.12214514 English
2.31138487 English_Southwest
2.58955595 French_Brittany

Distance to: Oregon(n=18)
1.92686274 English_Southeast
2.45083659 English
2.61528201 English_Midlands
2.81240111 English_North
3.10844012 Welsh

Distance to: Rhode_Island(n=14)
1.58429795 Belgian
2.54096438 Dutch_South
3.82408159 Afrikaner
3.91926013 French_North-East
4.19708232 French_Brittany

Distance to: South_Carolina(n=52)
0.98989898 English_Southeast
1.78745629 English_Midlands
1.82370502 English
2.17389052 French_Brittany
2.22663423 English_Southwest

Distance to: South_Dakota(n=7)
7.04322369 Afrikaner
7.17286554 German_North
7.46237898 Dutch_South
7.84312438 English_Southeast
7.89722736 Belgian

Distance to: Utah(n=52)
1.07359210 Welsh
1.26956686 Scottish
1.42464031 English_North
1.46652651 Irish_Leinster
1.76326402 British_Ulster

Distance to: Vermont(n=5)
3.23433146 Dutch_South
3.64987671 English_Southeast
3.83317101 English_Southwest
3.83328841 French_Brittany
3.97717236 English_Midlands

Distance to: Washington(n=25)
2.20823459 Dutch_South
2.89565191 English_Southeast
3.08064928 Belgian
3.51540894 English_Midlands
3.70448377 Afrikaner

Distance to: West_Wirginia(n=43)
1.47387245 English_Southeast
1.71732350 French_Brittany
2.12457054 English_Midlands
2.20633180 English
2.36543865 English_Southwest

Distance to: Wisconsin(n=65)
5.49432434 German_East
6.24181865 German_North
6.48029320 Austria-Burgenland
7.83213253 Afrikaner
8.66183006 German_Bavarian

Distance to: Wyoming(n=5)
1.93362354 English_Southeast
2.34968083 French_Brittany
2.52398494 English
2.53511341 English_Midlands
2.72761801 English_Southwest

And the ones that wiill soon be updated with more samples:

Distance to: Georgia(n=50)
1.14380942 English_Southeast
1.57184605 English
1.76618232 English_Midlands
1.93362354 English_Southwest
2.18840124 English_North

Distance to: Illinois(n=41)
3.51924708 German_East
4.36665776 Austria-Burgenland
7.89012040 German_North
8.36968339 Czech
8.53920371 German_Bavarian

Distance to: Kentucky(n=65)
0.80367904 English_Southeast
1.07981480 English_Midlands
1.15728130 English
1.47271857 English_Southwest
1.94815297 English_North

Distance to: Massachusetts(n=32)
2.17181951 German_Bavarian
3.36906515 French_Alsace
3.99659855 French_North-East
4.25424494 Swiss_German
4.73795314 Afrikaner

Distance to: Michigan(n=31)
4.15246914 German_East
5.34799963 Czech
6.20454672 Austria-Burgenland
6.84371975 Hungarian
6.98754606 Slovak

Distance to: Mississippi(n=22)
1.43680200 English_Southeast
1.88920618 French_Brittany
1.92226429 English_Midlands
1.93038856 English
1.96621464 English_Southwest

Distance to: Missouri(n=25)
1.70299736 Dutch_South
2.46615085 Belgian
2.78052153 English_Southeast
3.39758738 English_Midlands
3.50211365 French_Brittany

Distance to: New_York(n=84)
3.71924724 French_Alsace
3.96730387 Austria-Tyrol
4.13383599 German_Bavarian
4.21281379 Swiss_German
6.23961537 French_North-East

Distance to: North_Carolina(n=74)
1.68777961 French_Brittany
1.69572993 English_Southeast
2.05297345 English
2.12746328 English_Southwest
2.32710120 English_Midlands

Distance to: Ohio(n=51)
3.34652058 Afrikaner
3.36480311 Dutch_South
3.49825671 Belgian
4.20732694 German_North
4.35940363 English_Southeast

Distance to: Pennsylvania(n=82)
3.35912191 German_Bavarian
3.98706659 French_Alsace
4.28881102 Afrikaner
4.40296491 Belgian
4.60450866 French_North-East

Distance to: Tennessee(n=47)
1.19770614 English_Southeast
1.67827292 English_Midlands
1.90654137 English
2.43324886 English_Southwest
2.63865496 English_North

Distance to: Texas(n=37)
2.67555602 English_Southeast
2.73775455 Dutch_South
3.01845987 French_Brittany
3.32135515 Belgian
3.48869603 Afrikaner

Distance to: Virginia(n=49)
1.05631435 English_Southeast
1.79557790 English_Midlands
1.89214164 English
2.23470356 French_Brittany
2.29621428 English_Southwest



Create a GEDmatch account, upload your raw DNA data, and then you will have K15 coords.

Thanks dawg. I already have a GEDMatch account and I tried to make the coords myself.

RareNightmare
03-05-2026, 10:46 PM
I ran K15 again but I don't know where they actually have the K15 coordinates/

Peterski
03-05-2026, 10:56 PM
I updated Illinois and Michigan with more samples (from J. Ketch). The new Illinois average is a bit less Slavic than the old one.

Figaro, check if you still have this new Illinois as your Top 1st match.


I ran K15 again but I don't know where they actually have the K15 coordinates/

When you run K15, it says:

Population Percentage
North Sea
Atlantic
(...)

Etc.

These are your K15 coordinates. Paste them here and I will make a horizontal version for you.

RareNightmare
03-05-2026, 10:57 PM
North_Sea 25.72%
Atlantic 25.22%
Baltic 4.29%
Eastern_Euro 2.71%
West_Med 17.37%
West_Asian -
East_Med 8.05%
Red_Sea 1.04%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 7.45%
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 2.10%
Sub-Saharan 6.06%

Peterski
03-05-2026, 10:58 PM
Your K15 coordinates:


RareNightmare,25.72,25.22,4.29,2.71,17.37,0,8.05,1 .04,0,0,0,7.45,0,2.10,6.06

Distance to: RareNightmare
13.58229362 Louisiana(n=97)
14.94140556 New_Mexico(n=2)
15.69097511 New_Jersey(n=30)
16.30310400 New_York(n=84)
16.46955373 Rhode_Island(n=14)
16.73236385 Massachusetts(n=32)
16.79366250 California(n=60)
16.86386373 Montana(n=5)
16.98192863 Florida(n=28)
17.38815976 Connecticut(n=29)
17.39823267 Pennsylvania(n=82)
17.47995423 Vermont(n=5)
17.78227769 South_Dakota(n=7)
17.81861667 Missouri(n=25)
18.11037824 Texas(n=37)
18.20046428 West_Wirginia(n=43)
18.28914706 Oklahoma(n=27)
18.29220599 Kansas(n=20)
18.29350158 Mississippi(n=22)
18.35076293 Wyoming(n=5)
18.44824111 Maine(n=30)
18.51836926 Ohio(n=51)
18.57203812 Virginia(n=49)
18.59290725 Washington(n=25)
18.62876539 South_Carolina(n=52)

Peterski
03-05-2026, 11:13 PM
This is interesting:

States which have East European influence (the ones which have "East_German" among Top 5 distances):

Michigan
Wisconsin
North Dakota
Illinois
Connecticut
New York (this one will be updated with more samples, we will see if it stays even after adding more kits)
Pennsylvania (as above)
New Jersey

^^^
Compare with map of Slavic Americans (although some of it can also be due to East German immigration):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Slavic_ancestry_in_the_USA_and_Canada.png

RareNightmare
03-05-2026, 11:28 PM
Damn I'm really far from the average white american

Peterski
03-05-2026, 11:45 PM
My results, I'm closest to all of the Slavic-influenced ones:

Distance to: Peterski_Superkit
9.08956545 North_Dakota(n=10)
14.62982912 Wisconsin(n=65)
15.71275278 Michigan(n=72)
17.77486428 Illinois(n=106)
17.81891972 Connecticut(n=29)
18.06560821 Minnesota(n=27)
18.90766247 Pennsylvania(n=82)
19.09123097 Maryland(n=37)
19.55007417 Massachusetts(n=32)
19.55994376 New_York(n=84)
20.59241122 Ohio(n=51)
20.73564564 New_Mexico(n=2)
20.84778166 South_Dakota(n=7)
21.10334808 New_Jersey(n=30)
21.83289491 New_Hampshire(n=14)
22.05370264 Nebraska(n=24)
22.10368974 Montana(n=5)
22.21136871 California(n=60)
22.25531397 Kansas(n=20)
22.35591644 Washington(n=25)
22.41689541 Texas(n=37)
22.49493943 Idaho(n=12)
22.72681236 Oregon(n=18)
22.90278367 Iowa(n=34)
22.90970318 Florida(n=28)

RareNightmare
03-05-2026, 11:46 PM
I thought Michigan would have more polish drift.

Peterski
03-06-2026, 12:08 AM
Simulated G25 for new Michigan and new Illinois averages:


Alabama(n=73),0.133038,0.142098,0.064026,0.042665, 0.042982,0.016515,0.004928,0.004775,0.005863,0.007 313,-0.005371,0.005620,-0.012890,-0.008122,0.013381,0.002893,-0.003489,0.001322,0.001050,0.001854,0.004359,0.003 816,-0.001936,0.005423,-0.001202
Arizona(n=5),0.134967,0.143666,0.062890,0.040128,0 .041783,0.015645,0.004169,0.004436,0.006410,0.0059 88,-0.002270,0.005155,-0.011673,-0.012391,0.015453,0.005208,-0.005250,0.001558,0.001126,0.001094,0.003235,0.005 334,-0.002185,0.006198,-0.001868
Arkansas(n=39),0.136925,0.142404,0.065299,0.044304 ,0.043735,0.017293,0.004991,0.005216,0.005704,0.00 7120,-0.005417,0.005443,-0.012617,-0.008091,0.013374,0.003558,-0.003088,0.001379,0.001290,0.002311,0.004485,0.004 273,-0.001976,0.006196,-0.001358
California(n=60),0.133532,0.139945,0.059768,0.0369 03,0.040446,0.014174,0.002851,0.003235,0.006076,0. 007514,-0.004587,0.004686,-0.010824,-0.006531,0.011323,0.002460,-0.003019,0.000934,0.000644,0.001739,0.003911,0.003 000,-0.001549,0.004445,-0.000941
Colorado(n=5),0.136621,0.141236,0.063783,0.044554, 0.043126,0.016786,0.005441,0.006394,0.006059,0.007 505,-0.004511,0.005789,-0.013019,-0.009728,0.013516,0.003369,-0.002958,0.000992,0.000571,0.001764,0.003459,0.004 036,-0.001707,0.005463,-0.001518
Connecticut(n=29),0.133441,0.142075,0.055693,0.032 786,0.038356,0.012834,0.004158,0.005624,0.004743,0 .004281,-0.003024,0.002297,-0.005851,-0.001456,0.006327,0.001232,-0.001443,0.000210,0.000252,0.001691,0.003018,0.001 557,-0.000636,0.002830,-0.000554
Delaware(n=9),0.136654,0.142644,0.063540,0.043319, 0.043727,0.016710,0.004663,0.005095,0.006728,0.008 490,-0.005359,0.005996,-0.013598,-0.009919,0.014552,0.004110,-0.003272,0.001394,0.001114,0.002269,0.004350,0.004 603,-0.002105,0.006500,-0.001525
Florida(n=28),0.132108,0.143040,0.061126,0.038001, 0.042731,0.014850,0.004244,0.005187,0.007269,0.008 547,-0.004372,0.004961,-0.011281,-0.007358,0.011724,0.002576,-0.003022,0.000908,0.000575,0.001628,0.003773,0.003 187,-0.001586,0.004626,-0.001030
Idaho(n=12),0.134351,0.139534,0.066142,0.043471,0. 042664,0.016827,0.003792,0.003601,0.004748,0.00558 2,-0.004991,0.004734,-0.011192,-0.006187,0.011709,0.002780,-0.002779,0.001198,0.001202,0.002111,0.004255,0.003 659,-0.001674,0.005417,-0.001127
Indiana(n=57),0.135950,0.143024,0.064233,0.042403, 0.043120,0.016659,0.005259,0.005636,0.005512,0.006 248,-0.004403,0.005084,-0.011718,-0.007817,0.012454,0.003024,-0.003075,0.001082,0.000863,0.001714,0.003759,0.003 784,-0.001664,0.005219,-0.001293
Iowa(n=34),0.136685,0.141149,0.064339,0.043942,0.0 42169,0.016669,0.005495,0.005105,0.004143,0.004477 ,-0.004957,0.004960,-0.011653,-0.007260,0.012619,0.003302,-0.002923,0.001286,0.001247,0.002101,0.004111,0.004 058,-0.001764,0.005764,-0.001342
Kansas(n=20),0.133595,0.142581,0.061205,0.040449,0 .041419,0.015518,0.005603,0.005304,0.004609,0.0061 31,-0.005205,0.005057,-0.011750,-0.006448,0.011972,0.002360,-0.003223,0.001199,0.001062,0.001635,0.004228,0.003 228,-0.001730,0.004778,-0.000965
Louisiana(n=97),0.130111,0.142998,0.056111,0.02847 9,0.041906,0.010585,0.000867,0.002866,0.009774,0.0 14073,-0.004585,0.005476,-0.011901,-0.007985,0.011210,0.002072,-0.002773,0.000498,-0.000199,0.001427,0.003649,0.002159,-0.001466,0.003641,-0.000674
Maine(n=30),0.136467,0.141584,0.063238,0.042336,0. 043260,0.016519,0.003896,0.004508,0.007335,0.00890 3,-0.005164,0.005583,-0.012753,-0.008379,0.013122,0.003182,-0.003223,0.001228,0.000985,0.001979,0.004279,0.003 864,-0.001920,0.005609,-0.001203
Maryland(n=37),0.135174,0.142083,0.062433,0.042349 ,0.041017,0.017038,0.006279,0.006705,0.003800,0.00 2671,-0.003800,0.003373,-0.008358,-0.003625,0.009101,0.002033,-0.002123,0.000778,0.000908,0.001809,0.003488,0.002 908,-0.001126,0.004296,-0.000983
Minnesota(n=27),0.136899,0.133436,0.069565,0.05049 9,0.041631,0.018913,0.005908,0.007446,0.004830,-0.001465,-0.000876,0.001838,-0.005199,-0.004525,0.008070,0.002972,-0.001907,0.000543,0.000840,0.001879,0.001969,0.003 827,-0.000730,0.004762,-0.001537
Montana(n=5),0.128561,0.135411,0.059425,0.038097,0 .039990,0.015180,0.000948,0.000981,0.006631,0.0086 57,-0.006822,0.004075,-0.010029,-0.002661,0.010179,0.001807,-0.002724,0.001281,0.001330,0.003046,0.005738,0.002 658,-0.001798,0.004946,-0.000465
Nebraska(n=24),0.135509,0.140957,0.064549,0.042192 ,0.042166,0.016549,0.004520,0.004717,0.005447,0.00 5406,-0.004874,0.004550,-0.010731,-0.005944,0.011177,0.002698,-0.002255,0.000986,0.000943,0.002243,0.003974,0.003 450,-0.001493,0.005227,-0.001152
New_Hampshire(n=14),0.136380,0.141891,0.064872,0.0 43708,0.041867,0.017627,0.005099,0.004767,0.003967 ,0.004415,-0.004016,0.004944,-0.011520,-0.007323,0.012219,0.002540,-0.003520,0.001103,0.000874,0.001185,0.003558,0.003 590,-0.001588,0.004613,-0.001232
New_Jersey(n=30),0.130906,0.145030,0.047825,0.0227 48,0.035644,0.009813,0.003554,0.005067,0.005024,0. 007484,-0.003378,0.003108,-0.007202,-0.004233,0.008402,0.002301,-0.002377,0.000401,0.000118,0.001488,0.003241,0.001 812,-0.001006,0.003103,-0.000578
New_Mexico(n=2),0.126580,0.097953,0.067228,0.04049 4,0.028614,0.008134,-0.019226,-0.020856,0.004772,0.006461,-0.001455,0.003821,-0.008401,-0.003808,0.004548,-0.000074,0.000731,-0.000629,-0.000804,0.000472,0.000722,0.000106,0.000154,0.001 335,-0.000275
North_Dakota(n=10),0.135812,0.137805,0.069080,0.05 1924,0.041408,0.021113,0.009648,0.010135,0.000906,-0.008650,-0.001869,-0.001556,0.000928,0.007950,0.000552,-0.000954,-0.000423,0.000229,0.001381,0.002310,0.003118,0.001 254,0.000145,0.002230,-0.000341
Oklahoma(n=27),0.135388,0.136618,0.065995,0.043108 ,0.041139,0.016725,0.000969,0.000537,0.005513,0.00 7519,-0.004955,0.005690,-0.012981,-0.008592,0.013158,0.003207,-0.003091,0.001220,0.000987,0.001798,0.004019,0.003 877,-0.001827,0.005549,-0.001258
Oregon(n=18),0.136710,0.140197,0.066001,0.044540,0 .043455,0.017833,0.004837,0.004167,0.004687,0.0051 57,-0.005222,0.004999,-0.011853,-0.006374,0.012271,0.002651,-0.003272,0.001363,0.001362,0.001816,0.004443,0.003 805,-0.001804,0.005384,-0.001074
Rhode_Island(n=14),0.133123,0.146125,0.058025,0.03 3971,0.042107,0.014286,0.005080,0.005908,0.007158, 0.011288,-0.006626,0.005678,-0.012755,-0.006000,0.011185,0.002119,-0.001842,0.000919,0.000794,0.002117,0.004633,0.002 510,-0.001654,0.004864,-0.000608
South_Carolina(n=52),0.132777,0.141296,0.063120,0. 041986,0.043015,0.016516,0.004733,0.004840,0.00577 1,0.007246,-0.005055,0.005511,-0.012586,-0.008303,0.013212,0.003104,-0.003219,0.001195,0.000881,0.001856,0.004104,0.003 896,-0.001814,0.005437,-0.001264
South_Dakota(n=7),0.134146,0.108343,0.071348,0.048 234,0.031304,0.016309,-0.012256,-0.015645,0.003206,0.001805,-0.003450,0.003435,-0.008827,-0.004192,0.009369,0.002550,-0.002709,0.001320,0.001753,0.001808,0.003755,0.003 266,-0.001430,0.004969,-0.000801
Utah(n=52),0.136421,0.141493,0.066581,0.045198,0.0 43448,0.017952,0.005139,0.004534,0.005225,0.006425 ,-0.005161,0.006019,-0.013840,-0.010380,0.015466,0.004040,-0.004480,0.001722,0.001439,0.001815,0.004478,0.004 924,-0.002305,0.006413,-0.001560
Vermont(n=5),0.135718,0.143227,0.064487,0.039889,0 .044656,0.015200,0.002256,0.002423,0.007680,0.0112 29,-0.006713,0.006463,-0.014407,-0.006910,0.011911,0.001945,-0.001367,0.000796,0.000519,0.002170,0.004430,0.002 755,-0.001593,0.005041,-0.000855
Washington(n=25),0.134728,0.141267,0.061724,0.0398 73,0.040424,0.016099,0.005233,0.005392,0.005249,0. 005209,-0.004423,0.004501,-0.010554,-0.007072,0.011857,0.003309,-0.002893,0.001157,0.001110,0.001971,0.003839,0.003 757,-0.001646,0.005425,-0.001210
West_Wirginia(n=43),0.134058,0.142316,0.063394,0.0 40867,0.042422,0.016277,0.004091,0.004475,0.005993 ,0.007329,-0.003901,0.005591,-0.012556,-0.009918,0.013653,0.003521,-0.003567,0.001089,0.000633,0.001354,0.003415,0.004 076,-0.001759,0.005265,-0.001454
Wisconsin(n=65),0.137883,0.139671,0.067957,0.04913 0,0.043163,0.019258,0.007343,0.008141,0.003417,-0.001449,-0.003246,0.001233,-0.004399,0.002370,0.004584,0.000249,-0.000854,0.000431,0.001119,0.002192,0.003450,0.001 932,-0.000487,0.003331,-0.000585
Wyoming(n=5),0.137783,0.143354,0.061179,0.038654,0 .042487,0.014925,0.004778,0.005111,0.005724,0.0087 27,-0.005330,0.005825,-0.013230,-0.009471,0.014150,0.003701,-0.003832,0.001392,0.001068,0.001877,0.004394,0.004 111,-0.002095,0.005780,-0.001282
Michigan(n=72),0.134144,0.137723,0.064783,0.044188 ,0.040836,0.017210,0.005789,0.006980,0.004046,-0.000219,-0.002239,0.001583,-0.004670,-0.000414,0.005447,0.001154,-0.000787,0.000214,0.000609,0.001875,0.002547,0.002 152,-0.000390,0.003378,-0.000823
Illinois(n=106),0.135519,0.140717,0.063565,0.04318 6,0.041204,0.017129,0.005965,0.006552,0.003598,0.0 01050,-0.002857,0.002677,-0.006930,-0.002828,0.008053,0.001868,-0.001910,0.000587,0.000756,0.001693,0.003015,0.002 809,-0.000864,0.003936,-0.001018
Georgia(n=50),0.130467,0.142427,0.064121,0.043109, 0.043251,0.017298,0.005032,0.005197,0.006495,0.007 479,-0.004844,0.005429,-0.012441,-0.008496,0.013488,0.003251,-0.003653,0.001367,0.001125,0.001797,0.004245,0.004 093,-0.001970,0.005665,-0.001277
Kentucky(n=65),0.134610,0.141561,0.063881,0.042707 ,0.042936,0.016242,0.004394,0.004374,0.005944,0.00 7274,-0.004777,0.005788,-0.013126,-0.009584,0.014055,0.003589,-0.003513,0.001298,0.000957,0.001762,0.003971,0.004 256,-0.001949,0.005777,-0.001436
Massachusetts(n=32),0.132799,0.142243,0.055376,0.0 32787,0.038493,0.012774,0.004491,0.005849,0.004927 ,0.005452,-0.002890,0.003299,-0.007766,-0.004727,0.008775,0.001979,-0.002504,0.000426,0.000172,0.001284,0.002871,0.002 221,-0.000966,0.003204,-0.000831
Mississippi(n=22),0.134656,0.142648,0.063015,0.041 525,0.042975,0.016330,0.004106,0.004835,0.006893,0 .008212,-0.003871,0.005537,-0.012480,-0.010103,0.013871,0.003840,-0.003823,0.001233,0.000865,0.001469,0.003648,0.004 309,-0.001927,0.005641,-0.001457
Missouri(n=25),0.132891,0.142090,0.060210,0.038732 ,0.041587,0.014755,0.004569,0.004859,0.006097,0.00 7566,-0.005083,0.005084,-0.011647,-0.007346,0.012182,0.003227,-0.002636,0.001140,0.001030,0.002081,0.004142,0.003 604,-0.001746,0.005533,-0.001114
New_York(n=84),0.128776,0.142946,0.049040,0.023936 ,0.035377,0.010260,0.003878,0.005154,0.005094,0.00 5790,-0.003416,0.002416,-0.005903,-0.002237,0.006986,0.001579,-0.001945,0.000297,0.000143,0.001664,0.003254,0.001 390,-0.000784,0.002694,-0.000404
North_Carolina(n=74),0.132748,0.142797,0.063768,0. 042009,0.043280,0.016649,0.005080,0.005250,0.00615 3,0.008104,-0.004959,0.005826,-0.013218,-0.009338,0.014072,0.003199,-0.004005,0.001361,0.000976,0.001575,0.004192,0.004 040,-0.002026,0.005443,-0.001287
Ohio(n=51),0.135743,0.141283,0.061252,0.040215,0.0 40826,0.015751,0.005652,0.005972,0.003685,0.004292 ,-0.003925,0.004151,-0.009839,-0.005792,0.010673,0.002460,-0.002892,0.000914,0.000827,0.001494,0.003501,0.003 169,-0.001368,0.004401,-0.001056
Pennsylvania(n=82),0.134761,0.143073,0.059122,0.03 5852,0.040643,0.014290,0.004758,0.006263,0.005343, 0.005045,-0.003021,0.003049,-0.007375,-0.003413,0.007820,0.001674,-0.001815,0.000351,0.000307,0.001522,0.002965,0.002 156,-0.000835,0.003367,-0.000778
Tennessee(n=47),0.133097,0.142176,0.063165,0.04207 5,0.043139,0.016102,0.004851,0.004784,0.005493,0.0 07012,-0.005365,0.005496,-0.012587,-0.007809,0.012982,0.003146,-0.002807,0.001204,0.000996,0.002088,0.004246,0.003 872,-0.001807,0.005665,-0.001258
Texas(n=37),0.134420,0.140489,0.062409,0.040555,0. 041743,0.015615,0.003526,0.003465,0.005823,0.00659 1,-0.005316,0.004548,-0.010832,-0.005520,0.011478,0.002610,-0.003011,0.001240,0.001212,0.002254,0.004622,0.003 383,-0.001762,0.005204,-0.000956
Virginia(n=49),0.132871,0.141740,0.063272,0.041751 ,0.042112,0.016596,0.004777,0.004976,0.005580,0.00 7342,-0.004932,0.005568,-0.012653,-0.008674,0.013288,0.003210,-0.003241,0.001197,0.000899,0.001781,0.003973,0.003 882,-0.001824,0.005458,-0.001295

And my distances:

Distance to: Peterski_Merged
0.02480866 North_Dakota(n=10)
0.03396388 Wisconsin(n=65)
0.03647769 Michigan(n=72)
0.03741884 Minnesota(n=27)
0.04060435 Illinois(n=106)
0.04330189 Maryland(n=37)
0.04710560 Pennsylvania(n=82)
0.04726247 Ohio(n=51)
0.04732781 Connecticut(n=29)
0.04807866 New_Hampshire(n=14)
0.04808832 Nebraska(n=24)
0.04850532 Idaho(n=12)
0.04862907 Iowa(n=34)
0.04874722 Oregon(n=18)
0.04927030 Washington(n=25)
0.04995990 Texas(n=37)
0.05025160 Indiana(n=57)
0.05025382 Kansas(n=20)
0.05032306 Massachusetts(n=32)
0.05149467 Arkansas(n=39)
0.05161940 Tennessee(n=47)
0.05184530 Colorado(n=5)
0.05188911 Montana(n=5)
0.05190787 South_Carolina(n=52)
0.05198627 Georgia(n=50)

Figaro
03-06-2026, 12:13 AM
Simulated G25 for new Michigan and new Illinois averages:


Alabama(n=73),0.133038,0.142098,0.064026,0.042665, 0.042982,0.016515,0.004928,0.004775,0.005863,0.007 313,-0.005371,0.005620,-0.012890,-0.008122,0.013381,0.002893,-0.003489,0.001322,0.001050,0.001854,0.004359,0.003 816,-0.001936,0.005423,-0.001202
Arizona(n=5),0.134967,0.143666,0.062890,0.040128,0 .041783,0.015645,0.004169,0.004436,0.006410,0.0059 88,-0.002270,0.005155,-0.011673,-0.012391,0.015453,0.005208,-0.005250,0.001558,0.001126,0.001094,0.003235,0.005 334,-0.002185,0.006198,-0.001868
Arkansas(n=39),0.136925,0.142404,0.065299,0.044304 ,0.043735,0.017293,0.004991,0.005216,0.005704,0.00 7120,-0.005417,0.005443,-0.012617,-0.008091,0.013374,0.003558,-0.003088,0.001379,0.001290,0.002311,0.004485,0.004 273,-0.001976,0.006196,-0.001358
California(n=60),0.133532,0.139945,0.059768,0.0369 03,0.040446,0.014174,0.002851,0.003235,0.006076,0. 007514,-0.004587,0.004686,-0.010824,-0.006531,0.011323,0.002460,-0.003019,0.000934,0.000644,0.001739,0.003911,0.003 000,-0.001549,0.004445,-0.000941
Colorado(n=5),0.136621,0.141236,0.063783,0.044554, 0.043126,0.016786,0.005441,0.006394,0.006059,0.007 505,-0.004511,0.005789,-0.013019,-0.009728,0.013516,0.003369,-0.002958,0.000992,0.000571,0.001764,0.003459,0.004 036,-0.001707,0.005463,-0.001518
Connecticut(n=29),0.133441,0.142075,0.055693,0.032 786,0.038356,0.012834,0.004158,0.005624,0.004743,0 .004281,-0.003024,0.002297,-0.005851,-0.001456,0.006327,0.001232,-0.001443,0.000210,0.000252,0.001691,0.003018,0.001 557,-0.000636,0.002830,-0.000554
Delaware(n=9),0.136654,0.142644,0.063540,0.043319, 0.043727,0.016710,0.004663,0.005095,0.006728,0.008 490,-0.005359,0.005996,-0.013598,-0.009919,0.014552,0.004110,-0.003272,0.001394,0.001114,0.002269,0.004350,0.004 603,-0.002105,0.006500,-0.001525
Florida(n=28),0.132108,0.143040,0.061126,0.038001, 0.042731,0.014850,0.004244,0.005187,0.007269,0.008 547,-0.004372,0.004961,-0.011281,-0.007358,0.011724,0.002576,-0.003022,0.000908,0.000575,0.001628,0.003773,0.003 187,-0.001586,0.004626,-0.001030
Idaho(n=12),0.134351,0.139534,0.066142,0.043471,0. 042664,0.016827,0.003792,0.003601,0.004748,0.00558 2,-0.004991,0.004734,-0.011192,-0.006187,0.011709,0.002780,-0.002779,0.001198,0.001202,0.002111,0.004255,0.003 659,-0.001674,0.005417,-0.001127
Indiana(n=57),0.135950,0.143024,0.064233,0.042403, 0.043120,0.016659,0.005259,0.005636,0.005512,0.006 248,-0.004403,0.005084,-0.011718,-0.007817,0.012454,0.003024,-0.003075,0.001082,0.000863,0.001714,0.003759,0.003 784,-0.001664,0.005219,-0.001293
Iowa(n=34),0.136685,0.141149,0.064339,0.043942,0.0 42169,0.016669,0.005495,0.005105,0.004143,0.004477 ,-0.004957,0.004960,-0.011653,-0.007260,0.012619,0.003302,-0.002923,0.001286,0.001247,0.002101,0.004111,0.004 058,-0.001764,0.005764,-0.001342
Kansas(n=20),0.133595,0.142581,0.061205,0.040449,0 .041419,0.015518,0.005603,0.005304,0.004609,0.0061 31,-0.005205,0.005057,-0.011750,-0.006448,0.011972,0.002360,-0.003223,0.001199,0.001062,0.001635,0.004228,0.003 228,-0.001730,0.004778,-0.000965
Louisiana(n=97),0.130111,0.142998,0.056111,0.02847 9,0.041906,0.010585,0.000867,0.002866,0.009774,0.0 14073,-0.004585,0.005476,-0.011901,-0.007985,0.011210,0.002072,-0.002773,0.000498,-0.000199,0.001427,0.003649,0.002159,-0.001466,0.003641,-0.000674
Maine(n=30),0.136467,0.141584,0.063238,0.042336,0. 043260,0.016519,0.003896,0.004508,0.007335,0.00890 3,-0.005164,0.005583,-0.012753,-0.008379,0.013122,0.003182,-0.003223,0.001228,0.000985,0.001979,0.004279,0.003 864,-0.001920,0.005609,-0.001203
Maryland(n=37),0.135174,0.142083,0.062433,0.042349 ,0.041017,0.017038,0.006279,0.006705,0.003800,0.00 2671,-0.003800,0.003373,-0.008358,-0.003625,0.009101,0.002033,-0.002123,0.000778,0.000908,0.001809,0.003488,0.002 908,-0.001126,0.004296,-0.000983
Minnesota(n=27),0.136899,0.133436,0.069565,0.05049 9,0.041631,0.018913,0.005908,0.007446,0.004830,-0.001465,-0.000876,0.001838,-0.005199,-0.004525,0.008070,0.002972,-0.001907,0.000543,0.000840,0.001879,0.001969,0.003 827,-0.000730,0.004762,-0.001537
Montana(n=5),0.128561,0.135411,0.059425,0.038097,0 .039990,0.015180,0.000948,0.000981,0.006631,0.0086 57,-0.006822,0.004075,-0.010029,-0.002661,0.010179,0.001807,-0.002724,0.001281,0.001330,0.003046,0.005738,0.002 658,-0.001798,0.004946,-0.000465
Nebraska(n=24),0.135509,0.140957,0.064549,0.042192 ,0.042166,0.016549,0.004520,0.004717,0.005447,0.00 5406,-0.004874,0.004550,-0.010731,-0.005944,0.011177,0.002698,-0.002255,0.000986,0.000943,0.002243,0.003974,0.003 450,-0.001493,0.005227,-0.001152
New_Hampshire(n=14),0.136380,0.141891,0.064872,0.0 43708,0.041867,0.017627,0.005099,0.004767,0.003967 ,0.004415,-0.004016,0.004944,-0.011520,-0.007323,0.012219,0.002540,-0.003520,0.001103,0.000874,0.001185,0.003558,0.003 590,-0.001588,0.004613,-0.001232
New_Jersey(n=30),0.130906,0.145030,0.047825,0.0227 48,0.035644,0.009813,0.003554,0.005067,0.005024,0. 007484,-0.003378,0.003108,-0.007202,-0.004233,0.008402,0.002301,-0.002377,0.000401,0.000118,0.001488,0.003241,0.001 812,-0.001006,0.003103,-0.000578
New_Mexico(n=2),0.126580,0.097953,0.067228,0.04049 4,0.028614,0.008134,-0.019226,-0.020856,0.004772,0.006461,-0.001455,0.003821,-0.008401,-0.003808,0.004548,-0.000074,0.000731,-0.000629,-0.000804,0.000472,0.000722,0.000106,0.000154,0.001 335,-0.000275
North_Dakota(n=10),0.135812,0.137805,0.069080,0.05 1924,0.041408,0.021113,0.009648,0.010135,0.000906,-0.008650,-0.001869,-0.001556,0.000928,0.007950,0.000552,-0.000954,-0.000423,0.000229,0.001381,0.002310,0.003118,0.001 254,0.000145,0.002230,-0.000341
Oklahoma(n=27),0.135388,0.136618,0.065995,0.043108 ,0.041139,0.016725,0.000969,0.000537,0.005513,0.00 7519,-0.004955,0.005690,-0.012981,-0.008592,0.013158,0.003207,-0.003091,0.001220,0.000987,0.001798,0.004019,0.003 877,-0.001827,0.005549,-0.001258
Oregon(n=18),0.136710,0.140197,0.066001,0.044540,0 .043455,0.017833,0.004837,0.004167,0.004687,0.0051 57,-0.005222,0.004999,-0.011853,-0.006374,0.012271,0.002651,-0.003272,0.001363,0.001362,0.001816,0.004443,0.003 805,-0.001804,0.005384,-0.001074
Rhode_Island(n=14),0.133123,0.146125,0.058025,0.03 3971,0.042107,0.014286,0.005080,0.005908,0.007158, 0.011288,-0.006626,0.005678,-0.012755,-0.006000,0.011185,0.002119,-0.001842,0.000919,0.000794,0.002117,0.004633,0.002 510,-0.001654,0.004864,-0.000608
South_Carolina(n=52),0.132777,0.141296,0.063120,0. 041986,0.043015,0.016516,0.004733,0.004840,0.00577 1,0.007246,-0.005055,0.005511,-0.012586,-0.008303,0.013212,0.003104,-0.003219,0.001195,0.000881,0.001856,0.004104,0.003 896,-0.001814,0.005437,-0.001264
South_Dakota(n=7),0.134146,0.108343,0.071348,0.048 234,0.031304,0.016309,-0.012256,-0.015645,0.003206,0.001805,-0.003450,0.003435,-0.008827,-0.004192,0.009369,0.002550,-0.002709,0.001320,0.001753,0.001808,0.003755,0.003 266,-0.001430,0.004969,-0.000801
Utah(n=52),0.136421,0.141493,0.066581,0.045198,0.0 43448,0.017952,0.005139,0.004534,0.005225,0.006425 ,-0.005161,0.006019,-0.013840,-0.010380,0.015466,0.004040,-0.004480,0.001722,0.001439,0.001815,0.004478,0.004 924,-0.002305,0.006413,-0.001560
Vermont(n=5),0.135718,0.143227,0.064487,0.039889,0 .044656,0.015200,0.002256,0.002423,0.007680,0.0112 29,-0.006713,0.006463,-0.014407,-0.006910,0.011911,0.001945,-0.001367,0.000796,0.000519,0.002170,0.004430,0.002 755,-0.001593,0.005041,-0.000855
Washington(n=25),0.134728,0.141267,0.061724,0.0398 73,0.040424,0.016099,0.005233,0.005392,0.005249,0. 005209,-0.004423,0.004501,-0.010554,-0.007072,0.011857,0.003309,-0.002893,0.001157,0.001110,0.001971,0.003839,0.003 757,-0.001646,0.005425,-0.001210
West_Wirginia(n=43),0.134058,0.142316,0.063394,0.0 40867,0.042422,0.016277,0.004091,0.004475,0.005993 ,0.007329,-0.003901,0.005591,-0.012556,-0.009918,0.013653,0.003521,-0.003567,0.001089,0.000633,0.001354,0.003415,0.004 076,-0.001759,0.005265,-0.001454
Wisconsin(n=65),0.137883,0.139671,0.067957,0.04913 0,0.043163,0.019258,0.007343,0.008141,0.003417,-0.001449,-0.003246,0.001233,-0.004399,0.002370,0.004584,0.000249,-0.000854,0.000431,0.001119,0.002192,0.003450,0.001 932,-0.000487,0.003331,-0.000585
Wyoming(n=5),0.137783,0.143354,0.061179,0.038654,0 .042487,0.014925,0.004778,0.005111,0.005724,0.0087 27,-0.005330,0.005825,-0.013230,-0.009471,0.014150,0.003701,-0.003832,0.001392,0.001068,0.001877,0.004394,0.004 111,-0.002095,0.005780,-0.001282
Michigan(n=72),0.134144,0.137723,0.064783,0.044188 ,0.040836,0.017210,0.005789,0.006980,0.004046,-0.000219,-0.002239,0.001583,-0.004670,-0.000414,0.005447,0.001154,-0.000787,0.000214,0.000609,0.001875,0.002547,0.002 152,-0.000390,0.003378,-0.000823
Illinois(n=106),0.135519,0.140717,0.063565,0.04318 6,0.041204,0.017129,0.005965,0.006552,0.003598,0.0 01050,-0.002857,0.002677,-0.006930,-0.002828,0.008053,0.001868,-0.001910,0.000587,0.000756,0.001693,0.003015,0.002 809,-0.000864,0.003936,-0.001018
Georgia(n=50),0.130467,0.142427,0.064121,0.043109, 0.043251,0.017298,0.005032,0.005197,0.006495,0.007 479,-0.004844,0.005429,-0.012441,-0.008496,0.013488,0.003251,-0.003653,0.001367,0.001125,0.001797,0.004245,0.004 093,-0.001970,0.005665,-0.001277
Kentucky(n=65),0.134610,0.141561,0.063881,0.042707 ,0.042936,0.016242,0.004394,0.004374,0.005944,0.00 7274,-0.004777,0.005788,-0.013126,-0.009584,0.014055,0.003589,-0.003513,0.001298,0.000957,0.001762,0.003971,0.004 256,-0.001949,0.005777,-0.001436
Massachusetts(n=32),0.132799,0.142243,0.055376,0.0 32787,0.038493,0.012774,0.004491,0.005849,0.004927 ,0.005452,-0.002890,0.003299,-0.007766,-0.004727,0.008775,0.001979,-0.002504,0.000426,0.000172,0.001284,0.002871,0.002 221,-0.000966,0.003204,-0.000831
Mississippi(n=22),0.134656,0.142648,0.063015,0.041 525,0.042975,0.016330,0.004106,0.004835,0.006893,0 .008212,-0.003871,0.005537,-0.012480,-0.010103,0.013871,0.003840,-0.003823,0.001233,0.000865,0.001469,0.003648,0.004 309,-0.001927,0.005641,-0.001457
Missouri(n=25),0.132891,0.142090,0.060210,0.038732 ,0.041587,0.014755,0.004569,0.004859,0.006097,0.00 7566,-0.005083,0.005084,-0.011647,-0.007346,0.012182,0.003227,-0.002636,0.001140,0.001030,0.002081,0.004142,0.003 604,-0.001746,0.005533,-0.001114
New_York(n=84),0.128776,0.142946,0.049040,0.023936 ,0.035377,0.010260,0.003878,0.005154,0.005094,0.00 5790,-0.003416,0.002416,-0.005903,-0.002237,0.006986,0.001579,-0.001945,0.000297,0.000143,0.001664,0.003254,0.001 390,-0.000784,0.002694,-0.000404
North_Carolina(n=74),0.132748,0.142797,0.063768,0. 042009,0.043280,0.016649,0.005080,0.005250,0.00615 3,0.008104,-0.004959,0.005826,-0.013218,-0.009338,0.014072,0.003199,-0.004005,0.001361,0.000976,0.001575,0.004192,0.004 040,-0.002026,0.005443,-0.001287
Ohio(n=51),0.135743,0.141283,0.061252,0.040215,0.0 40826,0.015751,0.005652,0.005972,0.003685,0.004292 ,-0.003925,0.004151,-0.009839,-0.005792,0.010673,0.002460,-0.002892,0.000914,0.000827,0.001494,0.003501,0.003 169,-0.001368,0.004401,-0.001056
Pennsylvania(n=82),0.134761,0.143073,0.059122,0.03 5852,0.040643,0.014290,0.004758,0.006263,0.005343, 0.005045,-0.003021,0.003049,-0.007375,-0.003413,0.007820,0.001674,-0.001815,0.000351,0.000307,0.001522,0.002965,0.002 156,-0.000835,0.003367,-0.000778
Tennessee(n=47),0.133097,0.142176,0.063165,0.04207 5,0.043139,0.016102,0.004851,0.004784,0.005493,0.0 07012,-0.005365,0.005496,-0.012587,-0.007809,0.012982,0.003146,-0.002807,0.001204,0.000996,0.002088,0.004246,0.003 872,-0.001807,0.005665,-0.001258
Texas(n=37),0.134420,0.140489,0.062409,0.040555,0. 041743,0.015615,0.003526,0.003465,0.005823,0.00659 1,-0.005316,0.004548,-0.010832,-0.005520,0.011478,0.002610,-0.003011,0.001240,0.001212,0.002254,0.004622,0.003 383,-0.001762,0.005204,-0.000956
Virginia(n=49),0.132871,0.141740,0.063272,0.041751 ,0.042112,0.016596,0.004777,0.004976,0.005580,0.00 7342,-0.004932,0.005568,-0.012653,-0.008674,0.013288,0.003210,-0.003241,0.001197,0.000899,0.001781,0.003973,0.003 882,-0.001824,0.005458,-0.001295

And my distances:

Distance to: Peterski_Merged
0.02480866 North_Dakota(n=10)
0.03396388 Wisconsin(n=65)
0.03647769 Michigan(n=72)
0.03741884 Minnesota(n=27)
0.04060435 Illinois(n=106)
0.04330189 Maryland(n=37)
0.04710560 Pennsylvania(n=82)
0.04726247 Ohio(n=51)
0.04732781 Connecticut(n=29)
0.04807866 New_Hampshire(n=14)
0.04808832 Nebraska(n=24)
0.04850532 Idaho(n=12)
0.04862907 Iowa(n=34)
0.04874722 Oregon(n=18)
0.04927030 Washington(n=25)
0.04995990 Texas(n=37)
0.05025160 Indiana(n=57)
0.05025382 Kansas(n=20)
0.05032306 Massachusetts(n=32)
0.05149467 Arkansas(n=39)
0.05161940 Tennessee(n=47)
0.05184530 Colorado(n=5)
0.05188911 Montana(n=5)
0.05190787 South_Carolina(n=52)
0.05198627 Georgia(n=50)

Shifted things a tad. I'll need to use actual K15 stuff when I'm in font of a laptop.

Distance to: Figaro
0.02379325 Michigan(n=72)
0.02664739 Illinois(n=106)
0.02760474 Connecticut(n=29)
0.02785878 Maryland(n=37)
0.02795708 Wisconsin(n=65)
0.02832785 Montana(n=5)
0.02833853 Minnesota(n=27)
0.02856279 Pennsylvania(n=82)
0.02938380 Ohio(n=51)
0.02946515 Massachusetts(n=32)
0.02955939 North_Dakota(n=10)
0.03027516 Washington(n=25)
0.03065383 Texas(n=37)
0.03065390 Nebraska(n=24)
0.03077084 California(n=60)
0.03116098 Idaho(n=12)
0.03143858 Kansas(n=20)
0.03212508 Missouri(n=25)
0.03227923 Iowa(n=34)
0.03228604 New_Hampshire(n=14)
0.03240478 Oregon(n=18)
0.03275030 Florida(n=28)
0.03305258 South_Carolina(n=52)
0.03320114 Virginia(n=49)
0.03324496 Tennessee(n=47)

Target: Figaro
Distance: 2.0851% / 0.02085073
51.2 North_Dakota(n=10)
35.0 New_York(n=84)
13.8 New_Mexico(n=2)

Figaro
03-06-2026, 12:25 AM
Friend of mine from southern VA. Kind of unexpected result. His ancestry is Brit Isles+German, and likely Swiss. Ran with the G25 sim.

Distance to: VADude
0.03303419 Rhode_Island(n=14)
0.03353350 Louisiana(n=97)
0.03401804 Missouri(n=25)
0.03405266 New_Jersey(n=30)
0.03412329 Massachusetts(n=32)
0.03431285 California(n=60)
0.03481984 Wyoming(n=5)
0.03523131 Florida(n=28)
0.03532200 New_York(n=84)
0.03540786 Washington(n=25)
0.03592053 Kansas(n=20)
0.03617258 Connecticut(n=29)
0.03632977 Pennsylvania(n=82)
0.03637503 West_Wirginia(n=43)
0.03637624 Virginia(n=49)
0.03639109 Montana(n=5)
0.03648783 Mississippi(n=22)
0.03651491 Texas(n=37)
0.03654790 Arizona(n=5)
0.03658112 Tennessee(n=47)
0.03664551 Ohio(n=51)
0.03667582 South_Carolina(n=52)
0.03690499 Maine(n=30)
0.03698716 Vermont(n=5)
0.03699090 Delaware(n=9)


Target: VAFriend
Distance: 3.1743% / 0.03174301
60.0 New_Jersey(n=30)
38.4 Delaware(n=9)
1.0 New_Mexico(n=2)
0.6 Rhode_Island(n=14)

bc76
03-06-2026, 01:37 AM
Distance to: bc76
3.84007812 Oregon(n=18)
3.86054400 Utah(n=52)
4.25181138 Georgia(n=50)
4.35369958 Alabama(n=73)
4.36351922 North_Carolina(n=74)
4.65030107 New_Hampshire(n=14)
4.67487968 Arkansas(n=39)
4.76288778 Idaho(n=12)
4.79507039 Kentucky(n=65)
4.82008299 Indiana(n=57)
4.85004124 South_Carolina(n=52)
4.97099588 Maine(n=30)
5.06174871 Iowa(n=34)
5.07320412 Virginia(n=49)
5.11648317 Mississippi(n=22)
5.13027290 Oklahoma(n=27)
5.19640260 Colorado(n=5)
5.21094041 West_Wirginia(n=43)
5.27766047 Tennessee(n=47)
5.62138773 Delaware(n=9)
5.69023725 Texas(n=37)
5.73600907 Arizona(n=5)
5.80292168 Wyoming(n=5)
5.80324047 Nebraska(n=24)
5.81477429 Kansas(n=20)

Peterski
03-06-2026, 01:43 AM
Now I updated Virginia. Here are the updated simulated G25 coordinates:

(updated K15 coordinates are always in the same link in the opening post)


Alabama(n=73),0.133038,0.142098,0.064026,0.042665, 0.042982,0.016515,0.004928,0.004775,0.005863,0.007 313,-0.005371,0.005620,-0.012890,-0.008122,0.013381,0.002893,-0.003489,0.001322,0.001050,0.001854,0.004359,0.003 816,-0.001936,0.005423,-0.001202
Arizona(n=5),0.134967,0.143666,0.062890,0.040128,0 .041783,0.015645,0.004169,0.004436,0.006410,0.0059 88,-0.002270,0.005155,-0.011673,-0.012391,0.015453,0.005208,-0.005250,0.001558,0.001126,0.001094,0.003235,0.005 334,-0.002185,0.006198,-0.001868
Arkansas(n=39),0.136925,0.142404,0.065299,0.044304 ,0.043735,0.017293,0.004991,0.005216,0.005704,0.00 7120,-0.005417,0.005443,-0.012617,-0.008091,0.013374,0.003558,-0.003088,0.001379,0.001290,0.002311,0.004485,0.004 273,-0.001976,0.006196,-0.001358
California(n=60),0.133532,0.139945,0.059768,0.0369 03,0.040446,0.014174,0.002851,0.003235,0.006076,0. 007514,-0.004587,0.004686,-0.010824,-0.006531,0.011323,0.002460,-0.003019,0.000934,0.000644,0.001739,0.003911,0.003 000,-0.001549,0.004445,-0.000941
Colorado(n=5),0.136621,0.141236,0.063783,0.044554, 0.043126,0.016786,0.005441,0.006394,0.006059,0.007 505,-0.004511,0.005789,-0.013019,-0.009728,0.013516,0.003369,-0.002958,0.000992,0.000571,0.001764,0.003459,0.004 036,-0.001707,0.005463,-0.001518
Connecticut(n=29),0.133441,0.142075,0.055693,0.032 786,0.038356,0.012834,0.004158,0.005624,0.004743,0 .004281,-0.003024,0.002297,-0.005851,-0.001456,0.006327,0.001232,-0.001443,0.000210,0.000252,0.001691,0.003018,0.001 557,-0.000636,0.002830,-0.000554
Delaware(n=9),0.136654,0.142644,0.063540,0.043319, 0.043727,0.016710,0.004663,0.005095,0.006728,0.008 490,-0.005359,0.005996,-0.013598,-0.009919,0.014552,0.004110,-0.003272,0.001394,0.001114,0.002269,0.004350,0.004 603,-0.002105,0.006500,-0.001525
Florida(n=28),0.132108,0.143040,0.061126,0.038001, 0.042731,0.014850,0.004244,0.005187,0.007269,0.008 547,-0.004372,0.004961,-0.011281,-0.007358,0.011724,0.002576,-0.003022,0.000908,0.000575,0.001628,0.003773,0.003 187,-0.001586,0.004626,-0.001030
Idaho(n=12),0.134351,0.139534,0.066142,0.043471,0. 042664,0.016827,0.003792,0.003601,0.004748,0.00558 2,-0.004991,0.004734,-0.011192,-0.006187,0.011709,0.002780,-0.002779,0.001198,0.001202,0.002111,0.004255,0.003 659,-0.001674,0.005417,-0.001127
Indiana(n=57),0.135950,0.143024,0.064233,0.042403, 0.043120,0.016659,0.005259,0.005636,0.005512,0.006 248,-0.004403,0.005084,-0.011718,-0.007817,0.012454,0.003024,-0.003075,0.001082,0.000863,0.001714,0.003759,0.003 784,-0.001664,0.005219,-0.001293
Iowa(n=34),0.136685,0.141149,0.064339,0.043942,0.0 42169,0.016669,0.005495,0.005105,0.004143,0.004477 ,-0.004957,0.004960,-0.011653,-0.007260,0.012619,0.003302,-0.002923,0.001286,0.001247,0.002101,0.004111,0.004 058,-0.001764,0.005764,-0.001342
Kansas(n=20),0.133595,0.142581,0.061205,0.040449,0 .041419,0.015518,0.005603,0.005304,0.004609,0.0061 31,-0.005205,0.005057,-0.011750,-0.006448,0.011972,0.002360,-0.003223,0.001199,0.001062,0.001635,0.004228,0.003 228,-0.001730,0.004778,-0.000965
Louisiana(n=97),0.130111,0.142998,0.056111,0.02847 9,0.041906,0.010585,0.000867,0.002866,0.009774,0.0 14073,-0.004585,0.005476,-0.011901,-0.007985,0.011210,0.002072,-0.002773,0.000498,-0.000199,0.001427,0.003649,0.002159,-0.001466,0.003641,-0.000674
Maine(n=30),0.136467,0.141584,0.063238,0.042336,0. 043260,0.016519,0.003896,0.004508,0.007335,0.00890 3,-0.005164,0.005583,-0.012753,-0.008379,0.013122,0.003182,-0.003223,0.001228,0.000985,0.001979,0.004279,0.003 864,-0.001920,0.005609,-0.001203
Maryland(n=37),0.135174,0.142083,0.062433,0.042349 ,0.041017,0.017038,0.006279,0.006705,0.003800,0.00 2671,-0.003800,0.003373,-0.008358,-0.003625,0.009101,0.002033,-0.002123,0.000778,0.000908,0.001809,0.003488,0.002 908,-0.001126,0.004296,-0.000983
Minnesota(n=27),0.136899,0.133436,0.069565,0.05049 9,0.041631,0.018913,0.005908,0.007446,0.004830,-0.001465,-0.000876,0.001838,-0.005199,-0.004525,0.008070,0.002972,-0.001907,0.000543,0.000840,0.001879,0.001969,0.003 827,-0.000730,0.004762,-0.001537
Montana(n=5),0.128561,0.135411,0.059425,0.038097,0 .039990,0.015180,0.000948,0.000981,0.006631,0.0086 57,-0.006822,0.004075,-0.010029,-0.002661,0.010179,0.001807,-0.002724,0.001281,0.001330,0.003046,0.005738,0.002 658,-0.001798,0.004946,-0.000465
Nebraska(n=24),0.135509,0.140957,0.064549,0.042192 ,0.042166,0.016549,0.004520,0.004717,0.005447,0.00 5406,-0.004874,0.004550,-0.010731,-0.005944,0.011177,0.002698,-0.002255,0.000986,0.000943,0.002243,0.003974,0.003 450,-0.001493,0.005227,-0.001152
New_Hampshire(n=14),0.136380,0.141891,0.064872,0.0 43708,0.041867,0.017627,0.005099,0.004767,0.003967 ,0.004415,-0.004016,0.004944,-0.011520,-0.007323,0.012219,0.002540,-0.003520,0.001103,0.000874,0.001185,0.003558,0.003 590,-0.001588,0.004613,-0.001232
New_Jersey(n=30),0.130906,0.145030,0.047825,0.0227 48,0.035644,0.009813,0.003554,0.005067,0.005024,0. 007484,-0.003378,0.003108,-0.007202,-0.004233,0.008402,0.002301,-0.002377,0.000401,0.000118,0.001488,0.003241,0.001 812,-0.001006,0.003103,-0.000578
New_Mexico(n=2),0.126580,0.097953,0.067228,0.04049 4,0.028614,0.008134,-0.019226,-0.020856,0.004772,0.006461,-0.001455,0.003821,-0.008401,-0.003808,0.004548,-0.000074,0.000731,-0.000629,-0.000804,0.000472,0.000722,0.000106,0.000154,0.001 335,-0.000275
North_Dakota(n=10),0.135812,0.137805,0.069080,0.05 1924,0.041408,0.021113,0.009648,0.010135,0.000906,-0.008650,-0.001869,-0.001556,0.000928,0.007950,0.000552,-0.000954,-0.000423,0.000229,0.001381,0.002310,0.003118,0.001 254,0.000145,0.002230,-0.000341
Oklahoma(n=27),0.135388,0.136618,0.065995,0.043108 ,0.041139,0.016725,0.000969,0.000537,0.005513,0.00 7519,-0.004955,0.005690,-0.012981,-0.008592,0.013158,0.003207,-0.003091,0.001220,0.000987,0.001798,0.004019,0.003 877,-0.001827,0.005549,-0.001258
Oregon(n=18),0.136710,0.140197,0.066001,0.044540,0 .043455,0.017833,0.004837,0.004167,0.004687,0.0051 57,-0.005222,0.004999,-0.011853,-0.006374,0.012271,0.002651,-0.003272,0.001363,0.001362,0.001816,0.004443,0.003 805,-0.001804,0.005384,-0.001074
Rhode_Island(n=14),0.133123,0.146125,0.058025,0.03 3971,0.042107,0.014286,0.005080,0.005908,0.007158, 0.011288,-0.006626,0.005678,-0.012755,-0.006000,0.011185,0.002119,-0.001842,0.000919,0.000794,0.002117,0.004633,0.002 510,-0.001654,0.004864,-0.000608
South_Carolina(n=52),0.132777,0.141296,0.063120,0. 041986,0.043015,0.016516,0.004733,0.004840,0.00577 1,0.007246,-0.005055,0.005511,-0.012586,-0.008303,0.013212,0.003104,-0.003219,0.001195,0.000881,0.001856,0.004104,0.003 896,-0.001814,0.005437,-0.001264
South_Dakota(n=7),0.134146,0.108343,0.071348,0.048 234,0.031304,0.016309,-0.012256,-0.015645,0.003206,0.001805,-0.003450,0.003435,-0.008827,-0.004192,0.009369,0.002550,-0.002709,0.001320,0.001753,0.001808,0.003755,0.003 266,-0.001430,0.004969,-0.000801
Utah(n=52),0.136421,0.141493,0.066581,0.045198,0.0 43448,0.017952,0.005139,0.004534,0.005225,0.006425 ,-0.005161,0.006019,-0.013840,-0.010380,0.015466,0.004040,-0.004480,0.001722,0.001439,0.001815,0.004478,0.004 924,-0.002305,0.006413,-0.001560
Vermont(n=5),0.135718,0.143227,0.064487,0.039889,0 .044656,0.015200,0.002256,0.002423,0.007680,0.0112 29,-0.006713,0.006463,-0.014407,-0.006910,0.011911,0.001945,-0.001367,0.000796,0.000519,0.002170,0.004430,0.002 755,-0.001593,0.005041,-0.000855
Washington(n=25),0.134728,0.141267,0.061724,0.0398 73,0.040424,0.016099,0.005233,0.005392,0.005249,0. 005209,-0.004423,0.004501,-0.010554,-0.007072,0.011857,0.003309,-0.002893,0.001157,0.001110,0.001971,0.003839,0.003 757,-0.001646,0.005425,-0.001210
West_Wirginia(n=43),0.134058,0.142316,0.063394,0.0 40867,0.042422,0.016277,0.004091,0.004475,0.005993 ,0.007329,-0.003901,0.005591,-0.012556,-0.009918,0.013653,0.003521,-0.003567,0.001089,0.000633,0.001354,0.003415,0.004 076,-0.001759,0.005265,-0.001454
Wisconsin(n=65),0.137883,0.139671,0.067957,0.04913 0,0.043163,0.019258,0.007343,0.008141,0.003417,-0.001449,-0.003246,0.001233,-0.004399,0.002370,0.004584,0.000249,-0.000854,0.000431,0.001119,0.002192,0.003450,0.001 932,-0.000487,0.003331,-0.000585
Wyoming(n=5),0.137783,0.143354,0.061179,0.038654,0 .042487,0.014925,0.004778,0.005111,0.005724,0.0087 27,-0.005330,0.005825,-0.013230,-0.009471,0.014150,0.003701,-0.003832,0.001392,0.001068,0.001877,0.004394,0.004 111,-0.002095,0.005780,-0.001282
Michigan(n=72),0.134144,0.137723,0.064783,0.044188 ,0.040836,0.017210,0.005789,0.006980,0.004046,-0.000219,-0.002239,0.001583,-0.004670,-0.000414,0.005447,0.001154,-0.000787,0.000214,0.000609,0.001875,0.002547,0.002 152,-0.000390,0.003378,-0.000823
Illinois(n=107),0.135438,0.140685,0.063602,0.04322 4,0.041218,0.017140,0.005967,0.006577,0.003610,0.0 01007,-0.002814,0.002641,-0.006854,-0.002775,0.007987,0.001854,-0.001895,0.000577,0.000750,0.001688,0.002995,0.002 797,-0.000851,0.003916,-0.001016
Virginia(n=87),0.132434,0.142316,0.063100,0.041219 ,0.042016,0.016418,0.004780,0.004760,0.005374,0.00 7237,-0.005013,0.005657,-0.012845,-0.008800,0.013552,0.003176,-0.003434,0.001236,0.000886,0.001730,0.004039,0.003 885,-0.001865,0.005394,-0.001300
Georgia(n=50),0.130467,0.142427,0.064121,0.043109, 0.043251,0.017298,0.005032,0.005197,0.006495,0.007 479,-0.004844,0.005429,-0.012441,-0.008496,0.013488,0.003251,-0.003653,0.001367,0.001125,0.001797,0.004245,0.004 093,-0.001970,0.005665,-0.001277
Kentucky(n=65),0.134610,0.141561,0.063881,0.042707 ,0.042936,0.016242,0.004394,0.004374,0.005944,0.00 7274,-0.004777,0.005788,-0.013126,-0.009584,0.014055,0.003589,-0.003513,0.001298,0.000957,0.001762,0.003971,0.004 256,-0.001949,0.005777,-0.001436
Massachusetts(n=32),0.132799,0.142243,0.055376,0.0 32787,0.038493,0.012774,0.004491,0.005849,0.004927 ,0.005452,-0.002890,0.003299,-0.007766,-0.004727,0.008775,0.001979,-0.002504,0.000426,0.000172,0.001284,0.002871,0.002 221,-0.000966,0.003204,-0.000831
Mississippi(n=22),0.134656,0.142648,0.063015,0.041 525,0.042975,0.016330,0.004106,0.004835,0.006893,0 .008212,-0.003871,0.005537,-0.012480,-0.010103,0.013871,0.003840,-0.003823,0.001233,0.000865,0.001469,0.003648,0.004 309,-0.001927,0.005641,-0.001457
Missouri(n=25),0.132891,0.142090,0.060210,0.038732 ,0.041587,0.014755,0.004569,0.004859,0.006097,0.00 7566,-0.005083,0.005084,-0.011647,-0.007346,0.012182,0.003227,-0.002636,0.001140,0.001030,0.002081,0.004142,0.003 604,-0.001746,0.005533,-0.001114
New_York(n=84),0.128776,0.142946,0.049040,0.023936 ,0.035377,0.010260,0.003878,0.005154,0.005094,0.00 5790,-0.003416,0.002416,-0.005903,-0.002237,0.006986,0.001579,-0.001945,0.000297,0.000143,0.001664,0.003254,0.001 390,-0.000784,0.002694,-0.000404
North_Carolina(n=74),0.132748,0.142797,0.063768,0. 042009,0.043280,0.016649,0.005080,0.005250,0.00615 3,0.008104,-0.004959,0.005826,-0.013218,-0.009338,0.014072,0.003199,-0.004005,0.001361,0.000976,0.001575,0.004192,0.004 040,-0.002026,0.005443,-0.001287
Ohio(n=51),0.135743,0.141283,0.061252,0.040215,0.0 40826,0.015751,0.005652,0.005972,0.003685,0.004292 ,-0.003925,0.004151,-0.009839,-0.005792,0.010673,0.002460,-0.002892,0.000914,0.000827,0.001494,0.003501,0.003 169,-0.001368,0.004401,-0.001056
Pennsylvania(n=82),0.134761,0.143073,0.059122,0.03 5852,0.040643,0.014290,0.004758,0.006263,0.005343, 0.005045,-0.003021,0.003049,-0.007375,-0.003413,0.007820,0.001674,-0.001815,0.000351,0.000307,0.001522,0.002965,0.002 156,-0.000835,0.003367,-0.000778
Tennessee(n=47),0.133097,0.142176,0.063165,0.04207 5,0.043139,0.016102,0.004851,0.004784,0.005493,0.0 07012,-0.005365,0.005496,-0.012587,-0.007809,0.012982,0.003146,-0.002807,0.001204,0.000996,0.002088,0.004246,0.003 872,-0.001807,0.005665,-0.001258
Texas(n=37),0.134420,0.140489,0.062409,0.040555,0. 041743,0.015615,0.003526,0.003465,0.005823,0.00659 1,-0.005316,0.004548,-0.010832,-0.005520,0.011478,0.002610,-0.003011,0.001240,0.001212,0.002254,0.004622,0.003 383,-0.001762,0.005204,-0.000956

BTW I'm using this tool for generating simulated G25 coordinates (Gixajo also used this tool):

https://allelocator.ovh/simulatedg25.html

Peterski
03-06-2026, 11:02 AM
I updated Missouri, North Carolina and Mississippi with more samples.

Mr. M
03-06-2026, 11:26 AM
Target: m
Distance: 130.1877% / 1.30187701 | R3P
83.2 Serbian_Bosnia
11.0 Vermont_White(n=5)
5.8 Lezgin


Distance to: m
3.55803316 Bosnian
3.64062065 Serbian_Bosnia
4.43860338 Bosniak
4.70626179 Romania_Nw
4.73798480 Romania_Ne
5.14705741 Serbian
5.19809581 Moldavian
5.31138282 Croat_Bosnia
5.94257520 South_Serbian
6.22224035 Szekely
...
13.79295835 New_York_White(n=84)
14.27438265 Connecticut_White(n=29)
14.78150534 North_Dakota_White(n=10)
15.17026697 New_Jersey_White(n=30)
15.74268402 Michigan_White(n=72)
16.39333706 Massachusetts_White(n=32)
16.46248766 New_Mexico_White(n=2)
16.53839775 Pennsylvania_White(n=82)
16.87723319 Wisconsin_White(n=65)
17.66587954 Illinois_White(n=107)

Kostek
03-06-2026, 12:28 PM
Distance to: Kostek
14.48364595 North_Dakota_White(n=10)
19.79262742 Wisconsin_White(n=65)
20.70266166 Michigan_White(n=72)
22.42378202 Minnesota_White(n=27)
22.86270325 Illinois_White(n=107)
23.09251610 Connecticut_White(n=29)
24.08577381 Pennsylvania_White(n=82)
24.31591865 Maryland_White(n=37)
24.79558832 New_York_White(n=84)
24.83466932 Massachusetts_White(n=32)
25.23349361 New_Mexico_White(n=2)
25.71735990 South_Dakota_White(n=7)
25.87067065 Ohio_White(n=51)
26.31826552 New_Jersey_White(n=30)
27.06204538 New_Hampshire_White(n=14)
27.09150420 Nebraska_White(n=24)
27.34609479 Montana_White(n=5)
27.40898028 Washington_White(n=25)
27.43454574 California_White(n=60)
27.52980748 Idaho_White(n=12)
27.56097241 Texas_White(n=37)
27.57115884 Kansas_White(n=20)
27.84488822 Oregon_White(n=18)
27.96889522 Iowa_White(n=34)
27.97189482 Florida_White(n=28)

Peterski
03-06-2026, 01:57 PM
Georgia, Ohio, Massachusetts and New York updated. I need to update a few more states and it will be finished!

I will also add 1000Genomes samples from Utah.

Peterski
03-06-2026, 07:43 PM
Okay, all states have been updated! The final version is available (in the same link in the first post of this thread). :)

J. Ketch
03-06-2026, 07:55 PM
Distance to: Creoda
5.45181621 Utah_White(n=90)
6.52447699 Mississippi_White(n=54)
6.63433493 Arizona_White(n=5)
6.76155308 North_Carolina_White(n=102)
6.92090312 Georgia_White(n=96)
7.11355748 Alabama_White(n=73)
7.19954860 Kentucky_White(n=130)
7.29889033 Oregon_White(n=18)
7.33095492 Arkansas_White(n=40)
7.57505115 Delaware_White(n=9)
7.60528763 Virginia_White(n=87)
7.61222701 Maine_White(n=30)
7.63239150 Tennessee_White(n=95)
7.64081802 West_Wirginia_White(n=43)
7.69166432 South_Carolina_White(n=52)
7.78712399 Oklahoma_White(n=27)
7.80560696 Wyoming_White(n=5)
7.81080662 New_Hampshire_White(n=14)
7.86169193 Colorado_White(n=5)
7.90920350 Texas_White(n=97)
7.97917289 Indiana_White(n=57)
8.17617881 Iowa_White(n=34)
8.24456184 Missouri_White(n=59)
8.26478675 Idaho_White(n=12)
8.76787317 Kansas_White(n=20)

Target: Creoda
Distance: 545.1161% / 5.45116124
97.8 Utah_White(n=90)
2.2 Arizona_White(n=5)

Mormon master race confirmed?

Peterski
03-06-2026, 07:56 PM
I added 1000Genomes CEU samples from Utah to the Utah average. These are their K15 results:


NA06984,40.56,37.75,7.45,4.8,5.89,0.5,0,1.15,0.49, 0,1.03,0.14,0.1,0.13,0
NA06985,31.71,27.92,13.52,7.03,5.58,6.34,2.62,0,1. 26,0.14,0.49,0.61,0.34,1.12,1.31
NA06986,42.19,32.92,4.91,14.14,4.75,0,0,0,1.08,0,0 ,0,0.01,0,0
NA06989,41.82,25.77,10.15,8.47,9.66,0.76,0,0,1.51, 0.27,0.76,0,0,0.83,0
NA06991,33.16,30.39,11.83,8.45,6.38,6.74,0,0,0,0,0 .69,0.7,0,1.58,0.08
NA06993,37.18,29.13,10.06,7.3,8.73,4.26,0,1.18,0,0 ,0.79,0.24,0.06,0.8,0.27
NA06994,35.81,26.86,11.3,7.95,7.84,6.2,0,0,2.61,0. 46,0,0.15,0,0,0.82
NA06997,42.24,35.44,6.77,6.35,5.99,0,0,1.11,0.25,0 ,0.03,0.81,0,0,1.01
NA07014,36.98,38.54,13.01,3.09,3.64,2.19,0,0,1.23, 0.11,0.49,0.19,0.23,0,0.29
NA07029,44.58,30.87,10.1,3.55,3.5,3.65,0,0.69,1.03 ,0.45,0,0.6,0,0.98,0
NA07031,36.99,29.21,13.24,5.61,8.76,2.38,1.31,0,0. 28,0,1.02,0.36,0.84,0,0
NA07034,36.37,26.9,10.39,8.51,10.88,4.78,0,0.22,0, 0,0.47,0,0.02,1.28,0.19
NA07037,39.25,36.8,5.02,6.66,4.54,4.73,1.08,0,0,0, 0.11,0,0.89,0.14,0.78
NA07045,43.63,30.28,9.34,0.13,9.33,1.21,2.87,1.01, 0,0,0.48,1.07,0,0,0.66
NA07056,35.59,29.34,8.84,8.01,11.97,3.27,0,0,1.42, 0.15,0.72,0.34,0,0,0.36
NA07347,40.97,33.86,8.31,0,9.6,0.91,4.58,0.93,0.03 ,0,0,0.81,0,0,0
NA07349,41.58,40.3,6.7,3.45,2.57,0,3.57,0,0,0,0.58 ,0.88,0.33,0,0.06
NA10831,37.67,30.28,6.68,10.3,8.8,3.83,0.41,0,1.2, 0,0,0.24,0.25,0,0.34
NA10836,38.75,35.33,9.78,4.3,6.18,0,3.86,0,0,0,1.0 4,0,0,0.76,0
NA10837,30.02,25.84,13.44,8.92,11.05,5.08,3.8,1.55 ,0.16,0,0,0,0.14,0,0
NA10840,30.78,23.3,16.2,10.35,9.06,6.95,2.12,0.54, 0,0,0.5,0.05,0.16,0,0
NA10845,38.01,24.47,20.06,2.2,7.01,2.36,2.76,0,1.8 5,0.02,0,0.39,0,0,0.87
NA10852,44.98,24.76,6.76,5.67,10.05,5.09,0.69,0.27 ,0.04,0.11,0.03,0.98,0,0.57,0
NA10853,41.76,25.31,10.97,6.83,9.18,3.54,0.48,0.17 ,0,0,0,0.43,0.69,0.65,0
NA10854,33.13,27.35,9.34,12.96,9.96,3.12,0.23,0,1, 0.28,0.69,0,0.22,1.42,0.3
NA10859,33.18,39.58,10.52,4.95,2.63,6.42,0,1.18,0, 0.75,0,0.73,0,0,0.05
NA10861,30.48,40.5,9.46,7.54,4.47,4.48,0.36,0,0,0, 0,0.69,0.02,0.82,1.19
NA11839,31.58,29.44,12.28,9.04,8.82,3.72,0.7,0.86, 1.35,0,0.44,0,0.41,0,1.35
NA11840,36.72,20.45,13.66,11.18,10.11,1.41,0.65,0, 0.6,0.53,1.2,1.32,0.4,1.76,0
NA11882,34.15,30.01,12.11,8.78,7.95,2.77,0,3.42,0, 0,0,0.13,0.68,0,0
NA11892,44.43,33.36,5.92,7.74,3.41,0,0,4.26,0,0,0. 14,0.01,0.73,0,0
NA11894,36.66,28.24,11.87,8.75,7.78,5.47,0,0.45,0, 0,0,0,0,0.37,0.41
NA11917,28.52,18.72,17.94,16.82,10.22,5.13,0,0,2.4 ,0,0,0,0,0,0.25
NA11930,35.54,22.28,28.52,0.48,1.48,1.6,8.52,0,0,0 .63,0,0.48,0,0,0.47
NA11931,43.5,24,9.25,6.48,10.21,3.49,0.17,0,2.52,0 ,0,0,0.3,0,0.08
NA11993,33.8,40.61,0.41,15.44,8.28,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0.38,1.09
NA11994,33.95,28.85,11.64,7.19,8.4,4.47,2.09,0,0.0 1,0,0.65,1.38,0.5,0.2,0.7
NA12004,35.15,26.65,8.26,9.38,12.35,3.09,1.75,0.26 ,0.89,0.58,0.43,0,0.14,0.69,0.39
NA12044,34.22,42.97,4.43,13.24,3.41,0.74,0,0.4,0,0 ,0.32,0,0,0,0.26
NA12146,35.6,30.96,8.31,7.76,9.35,5.47,0.83,0,0,0, 0,0.84,0,0,0.87
NA12155,35.42,30.91,5.63,11.29,11.02,4.51,0,0,1.17 ,0,0.03,0,0,0,0
NA12156,38.23,28.57,6.03,10.22,8.96,3.83,1.58,0,1. 32,0,0,0.67,0,0,0.58
NA12234,43.51,34.21,8.75,0.94,3.49,5.47,1.45,0.43, 0.36,0,0.89,0,0.31,0,0.18
NA12272,33.15,25.83,9.91,9.49,13.26,3.34,3.12,1.08 ,0,0,0,0,0.48,0.32,0
NA12273,26.17,27.52,13.87,9.84,10.89,5.73,3.55,1.4 7,0.2,0,0,0,0,0,0.75
NA12282,34.67,37.27,4.8,10.75,3.97,2.1,1.34,5.1,0, 0,0,0,0,0,0
NA12286,23.18,19.91,20.92,12.67,7.97,7.6,3.48,2.28 ,1.02,0,0.68,0,0.26,0,0.03
NA12287,33.85,28.27,9.55,7.99,10.15,5.69,1.73,1.03 ,1.04,0,0,0,0.35,0.32,0.02
NA12340,35.77,42.7,13.47,0.93,0,0,5.89,0.74,0.38,0 ,0,0.12,0,0,0
NA12413,19.19,43.26,20.92,0,7.39,4.77,2.49,0,0,0,0 ,1.15,0.58,0.25,0
NA12760,36.65,21.7,8.77,11.15,10.57,3.01,4.52,0,0. 84,0,1.11,0.08,0.45,0.97,0.19
NA12778,40.57,39.35,13.82,0,0,0,4.16,1.52,0,0,0.57 ,0,0,0,0
NA12827,40.77,35.89,5.8,9.62,3.33,3.18,0,0,0,0,0,0 .44,0.79,0.15,0.02
NA12829,37.55,37.22,0.27,10.89,7.42,2.39,1.78,0.75 ,0.24,0,0,0,0.04,1.44,0
NA12830,31.93,29.78,8.35,9.73,9.91,3.43,4.93,0,0,0 ,0,1.63,0.32,0,0
NA12842,39.5,38.56,4.86,8.79,2.19,3.98,1.08,0.54,0 ,0,0.13,0,0,0.36,0
NA12843,38.56,35.98,4.04,11.86,1.76,3.85,0.07,0,1. 2,1.19,0,0.3,0,0.07,1.13
NA12872,35.78,38.05,7.52,5.29,7.82,0.74,0,0.7,2.63 ,0.01,0.75,0.58,0,0,0.13
NA12873,39.94,37.74,0.96,11.11,6.63,0.86,0,0,1.6,0 .79,0,0.38,0,0,0
NA12874,30.37,33.78,7.66,9.56,10.2,4.77,0,0,1.51,0 .15,0.24,0.7,0.12,0,0.93
NA12889,41.21,24.08,15.67,0.28,8.19,7.04,0,2.89,0, 0,0,0.22,0,0.43,0

But even without these 1000Genomes samples Utah average scores Irish among Top 5 distances.

Here is the Utah average if we exclude 1000Genomes samples:


Utah_White(n=29),36.37,27.98,10.15,8.57,9.21,4.34, 1.27,0.31,0.48,0.10,0.16,0.65,0.17,0.14,0.12

J. Ketch
03-06-2026, 08:06 PM
I added 1000Genomes CEU samples from Utah to the Utah average. These are their K15 results:


NA06984,40.56,37.75,7.45,4.8,5.89,0.5,0,1.15,0.49, 0,1.03,0.14,0.1,0.13,0
NA06985,31.71,27.92,13.52,7.03,5.58,6.34,2.62,0,1. 26,0.14,0.49,0.61,0.34,1.12,1.31
NA06986,42.19,32.92,4.91,14.14,4.75,0,0,0,1.08,0,0 ,0,0.01,0,0
NA06989,41.82,25.77,10.15,8.47,9.66,0.76,0,0,1.51, 0.27,0.76,0,0,0.83,0
NA06991,33.16,30.39,11.83,8.45,6.38,6.74,0,0,0,0,0 .69,0.7,0,1.58,0.08
NA06993,37.18,29.13,10.06,7.3,8.73,4.26,0,1.18,0,0 ,0.79,0.24,0.06,0.8,0.27
NA06994,35.81,26.86,11.3,7.95,7.84,6.2,0,0,2.61,0. 46,0,0.15,0,0,0.82
NA06997,42.24,35.44,6.77,6.35,5.99,0,0,1.11,0.25,0 ,0.03,0.81,0,0,1.01
NA07014,36.98,38.54,13.01,3.09,3.64,2.19,0,0,1.23, 0.11,0.49,0.19,0.23,0,0.29
NA07029,44.58,30.87,10.1,3.55,3.5,3.65,0,0.69,1.03 ,0.45,0,0.6,0,0.98,0
NA07031,36.99,29.21,13.24,5.61,8.76,2.38,1.31,0,0. 28,0,1.02,0.36,0.84,0,0
NA07034,36.37,26.9,10.39,8.51,10.88,4.78,0,0.22,0, 0,0.47,0,0.02,1.28,0.19
NA07037,39.25,36.8,5.02,6.66,4.54,4.73,1.08,0,0,0, 0.11,0,0.89,0.14,0.78
NA07045,43.63,30.28,9.34,0.13,9.33,1.21,2.87,1.01, 0,0,0.48,1.07,0,0,0.66
NA07056,35.59,29.34,8.84,8.01,11.97,3.27,0,0,1.42, 0.15,0.72,0.34,0,0,0.36
NA07347,40.97,33.86,8.31,0,9.6,0.91,4.58,0.93,0.03 ,0,0,0.81,0,0,0
NA07349,41.58,40.3,6.7,3.45,2.57,0,3.57,0,0,0,0.58 ,0.88,0.33,0,0.06
NA10831,37.67,30.28,6.68,10.3,8.8,3.83,0.41,0,1.2, 0,0,0.24,0.25,0,0.34
NA10836,38.75,35.33,9.78,4.3,6.18,0,3.86,0,0,0,1.0 4,0,0,0.76,0
NA10837,30.02,25.84,13.44,8.92,11.05,5.08,3.8,1.55 ,0.16,0,0,0,0.14,0,0
NA10840,30.78,23.3,16.2,10.35,9.06,6.95,2.12,0.54, 0,0,0.5,0.05,0.16,0,0
NA10845,38.01,24.47,20.06,2.2,7.01,2.36,2.76,0,1.8 5,0.02,0,0.39,0,0,0.87
NA10852,44.98,24.76,6.76,5.67,10.05,5.09,0.69,0.27 ,0.04,0.11,0.03,0.98,0,0.57,0
NA10853,41.76,25.31,10.97,6.83,9.18,3.54,0.48,0.17 ,0,0,0,0.43,0.69,0.65,0
NA10854,33.13,27.35,9.34,12.96,9.96,3.12,0.23,0,1, 0.28,0.69,0,0.22,1.42,0.3
NA10859,33.18,39.58,10.52,4.95,2.63,6.42,0,1.18,0, 0.75,0,0.73,0,0,0.05
NA10861,30.48,40.5,9.46,7.54,4.47,4.48,0.36,0,0,0, 0,0.69,0.02,0.82,1.19
NA11839,31.58,29.44,12.28,9.04,8.82,3.72,0.7,0.86, 1.35,0,0.44,0,0.41,0,1.35
NA11840,36.72,20.45,13.66,11.18,10.11,1.41,0.65,0, 0.6,0.53,1.2,1.32,0.4,1.76,0
NA11882,34.15,30.01,12.11,8.78,7.95,2.77,0,3.42,0, 0,0,0.13,0.68,0,0
NA11892,44.43,33.36,5.92,7.74,3.41,0,0,4.26,0,0,0. 14,0.01,0.73,0,0
NA11894,36.66,28.24,11.87,8.75,7.78,5.47,0,0.45,0, 0,0,0,0,0.37,0.41
NA11917,28.52,18.72,17.94,16.82,10.22,5.13,0,0,2.4 ,0,0,0,0,0,0.25
NA11930,35.54,22.28,28.52,0.48,1.48,1.6,8.52,0,0,0 .63,0,0.48,0,0,0.47
NA11931,43.5,24,9.25,6.48,10.21,3.49,0.17,0,2.52,0 ,0,0,0.3,0,0.08
NA11993,33.8,40.61,0.41,15.44,8.28,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0.38,1.09
NA11994,33.95,28.85,11.64,7.19,8.4,4.47,2.09,0,0.0 1,0,0.65,1.38,0.5,0.2,0.7
NA12004,35.15,26.65,8.26,9.38,12.35,3.09,1.75,0.26 ,0.89,0.58,0.43,0,0.14,0.69,0.39
NA12044,34.22,42.97,4.43,13.24,3.41,0.74,0,0.4,0,0 ,0.32,0,0,0,0.26
NA12146,35.6,30.96,8.31,7.76,9.35,5.47,0.83,0,0,0, 0,0.84,0,0,0.87
NA12155,35.42,30.91,5.63,11.29,11.02,4.51,0,0,1.17 ,0,0.03,0,0,0,0
NA12156,38.23,28.57,6.03,10.22,8.96,3.83,1.58,0,1. 32,0,0,0.67,0,0,0.58
NA12234,43.51,34.21,8.75,0.94,3.49,5.47,1.45,0.43, 0.36,0,0.89,0,0.31,0,0.18
NA12272,33.15,25.83,9.91,9.49,13.26,3.34,3.12,1.08 ,0,0,0,0,0.48,0.32,0
NA12273,26.17,27.52,13.87,9.84,10.89,5.73,3.55,1.4 7,0.2,0,0,0,0,0,0.75
NA12282,34.67,37.27,4.8,10.75,3.97,2.1,1.34,5.1,0, 0,0,0,0,0,0
NA12286,23.18,19.91,20.92,12.67,7.97,7.6,3.48,2.28 ,1.02,0,0.68,0,0.26,0,0.03
NA12287,33.85,28.27,9.55,7.99,10.15,5.69,1.73,1.03 ,1.04,0,0,0,0.35,0.32,0.02
NA12340,35.77,42.7,13.47,0.93,0,0,5.89,0.74,0.38,0 ,0,0.12,0,0,0
NA12413,19.19,43.26,20.92,0,7.39,4.77,2.49,0,0,0,0 ,1.15,0.58,0.25,0
NA12760,36.65,21.7,8.77,11.15,10.57,3.01,4.52,0,0. 84,0,1.11,0.08,0.45,0.97,0.19
NA12778,40.57,39.35,13.82,0,0,0,4.16,1.52,0,0,0.57 ,0,0,0,0
NA12827,40.77,35.89,5.8,9.62,3.33,3.18,0,0,0,0,0,0 .44,0.79,0.15,0.02
NA12829,37.55,37.22,0.27,10.89,7.42,2.39,1.78,0.75 ,0.24,0,0,0,0.04,1.44,0
NA12830,31.93,29.78,8.35,9.73,9.91,3.43,4.93,0,0,0 ,0,1.63,0.32,0,0
NA12842,39.5,38.56,4.86,8.79,2.19,3.98,1.08,0.54,0 ,0,0.13,0,0,0.36,0
NA12843,38.56,35.98,4.04,11.86,1.76,3.85,0.07,0,1. 2,1.19,0,0.3,0,0.07,1.13
NA12872,35.78,38.05,7.52,5.29,7.82,0.74,0,0.7,2.63 ,0.01,0.75,0.58,0,0,0.13
NA12873,39.94,37.74,0.96,11.11,6.63,0.86,0,0,1.6,0 .79,0,0.38,0,0,0
NA12874,30.37,33.78,7.66,9.56,10.2,4.77,0,0,1.51,0 .15,0.24,0.7,0.12,0,0.93
NA12889,41.21,24.08,15.67,0.28,8.19,7.04,0,2.89,0, 0,0,0.22,0,0.43,0

But even without these 1000Genomes samples Utah average scores Irish among Top 5 distances.
It's curious that Utahns are significantly more Insular Celt-shifted than Southerners, despite the South having much more of that ancestry on paper.

Marena
03-06-2026, 08:06 PM
These are the simulated Scaled G25 coordinates made with those Eurogenes K15 averages:

G25 simulated from K13 and K15 are grotesquely inaccurate.

Only K36 produces simulations that are relatively close to real coordinates.

Highwayman
03-06-2026, 08:08 PM
oneeye_exploreyourdna_simulated_scaled
0.01554567 Washington(n=25)
0.01555848 Virginia(n=49)
0.01562149 Missouri(n=25)
0.01572080 South_Carolina(n=52)
0.01573451 Arizona(n=5)
0.01597512 Kentucky(n=65)
0.01599329 California(n=60)
0.01599354 West_Wirginia(n=43)
0.01626083 Oklahoma(n=27)
0.01629685 Tennessee(n=47)
0.01640585 Texas(n=37)
0.01646588 Mississippi(n=22)
0.01649354 Georgia(n=50)
0.01652228 Alabama(n=73)
0.01654800 Kansas(n=20)
0.01658747 North_Carolina(n=74)
0.01728156 Iowa(n=34)
0.01732312 Montana(n=5)
0.01742906 Wyoming(n=5)
0.01743847 Idaho(n=12)
0.01754646 Maine(n=30)
0.01755396 Florida(n=28)
0.01755489 Delaware(n=9)
0.01756099 Ohio(n=51)
0.01768881 Colorado(n=5)

Defcon2
03-06-2026, 08:10 PM
I'm not white but:

Target: Defcon2
Distance: 1985.3307% / 19.85330703
100.0 Louisiana_White(n=97)

Distance to: Defcon2
19.85330703 Louisiana_White(n=97)
22.01196039 New_Jersey_White(n=30)
22.66494871 New_York_White(n=175)
23.19152863 Massachusetts_White(n=82)
23.51722985 Rhode_Island_White(n=14)
23.71170386 New_Mexico_White(n=2)
23.89657716 California_White(n=60)
23.94659892 Florida_White(n=28)
24.08023671 Connecticut_White(n=29)
24.40056967 Montana_White(n=5)
24.78498134 Vermont_White(n=5)
24.99598568 Pennsylvania_White(n=179)
25.24495197 Ohio_White(n=100)
25.25004356 Kansas_White(n=20)
25.39266430 Wyoming_White(n=5)
25.40858910 West_Wirginia_White(n=43)
25.43432523 Missouri_White(n=59)
25.62894653 Maine_White(n=30)
25.72166402 Texas_White(n=97)
25.74654734 Virginia_White(n=87)
25.75876356 North_Carolina_White(n=102)
25.91249120 South_Carolina_White(n=52)
25.91742271 Alabama_White(n=73)
26.03014406 Oklahoma_White(n=27)
26.09611082 New_Hampshire_White(n=14)

Highwayman
03-06-2026, 08:13 PM
It's curious that Utahns are significantly more Insular Celt-shifted than Southerners, despite the South having much more of that ancestry on paper.

They’re probably very Puritan descended in particular.

Peterski
03-06-2026, 08:16 PM
G25 simulated from K13 and K15 are grotesquely inaccurate.

Only K36 produces simulations that are relatively close to real coordinates.

I remember someone checked this and coordinates simulated from K15 were not that much less accurate than K36.

Highwayman
03-06-2026, 08:20 PM
Oops, with Peterski’s latest update?


oneeye_exploreyourdna_simulated_scaled
0.01549289 Virginia(n=87)
0.01554567 Washington(n=25)
0.01562149 Missouri(n=25)
0.01572080 South_Carolina(n=52)
0.01573451 Arizona(n=5)
0.01597512 Kentucky(n=65)
0.01599329 California(n=60)
0.01599354 West_Wirginia(n=43)
0.01626083 Oklahoma(n=27)
0.01629685 Tennessee(n=47)
0.01640585 Texas(n=37)
0.01646588 Mississippi(n=22)
0.01649354 Georgia(n=50)
0.01652228 Alabama(n=73)
0.01654800 Kansas(n=20)
0.01658747 North_Carolina(n=74)
0.01728156 Iowa(n=34)
0.01732312 Montana(n=5)
0.01742906 Wyoming(n=5)
0.01743847 Idaho(n=12)
0.01754646 Maine(n=30)
0.01755396 Florida(n=28)
0.01755489 Delaware(n=9)
0.01756099 Ohio(n=51)
0.01768881 Colorado(n=5)

Marena
03-06-2026, 08:22 PM
I remember someone checked this and coordinates simulated from K15 were not that much less accurate than K36.

I remember very vividly from all the way back in 2022 when simulation tools were created the experiments had shown that K36 sims deviate the least on average.

Peterski
03-06-2026, 08:24 PM
I remember very vividly from all the way back in 2022 when simulation tools were created the experiments had shown that K36 sims deviate the least on average.

Yes but I think the difference in accuracy was something like 96% for K36 and 92% for K15.

Not such a dramatic difference.

Marena
03-06-2026, 08:27 PM
Yes but I think the difference in accuracy was something like 96% for K36 and 92% for K15.

Not such a dramatic difference.

4% and 8% margin error is twice the difference.

Peterski
03-06-2026, 08:42 PM
4% and 8% margin error is twice the difference.

Yeah but still K15 sims are mostly accurate.

Gannicus
03-07-2026, 01:47 AM
Gedmatch from what I can tell doesn't have just Eurogenes K15. Hopefully this works.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15:

147205
147206
147207


K15


Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_K15
5.51473481 Arizona_White(n=5)
5.73248637 Wyoming_White(n=5)
5.79169233 North_Carolina_White(n=102)
5.80354202 Mississippi_White(n=54)
5.96969011 West_Wirginia_White(n=43)
6.04797487 Kentucky_White(n=130)
6.16860600 Delaware_White(n=9)
6.16991896 Maine_White(n=30)
6.19348852 Virginia_White(n=87)
6.22038584 Georgia_White(n=96)
6.22679693 Alabama_White(n=73)
6.33043442 Utah_White_with_CEU_1KGP(n=90)
6.38856791 Oklahoma_White(n=27)
6.40997660 South_Carolina_White(n=52)
6.46250725 Utah_White(n=29)
6.56278142 Tennessee_White(n=95)
6.58088900 Colorado_White(n=5)
6.65641044 Texas_White(n=97)
6.66095339 Missouri_White(n=59)
6.78427594 Arkansas_White(n=40)
7.06198980 Indiana_White(n=57)
7.30594279 Florida_White(n=28)
7.49013351 Vermont_White(n=5)
7.50049998 Oregon_White(n=18)
7.67157090 Iowa_White(n=34)

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_K15
Distance: 5.3725% / 5.37253852
56.4 Arizona_White(n=5)
18.3 Utah_White_with_CEU_1KGP(n=90)
13.7 Delaware_White(n=9)
11.6 Louisiana_White(n=97)


G25:

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02562453 Arizona(n=5)
0.02679191 Wyoming(n=5)
0.02712036 Mississippi(n=22)
0.02729624 Missouri(n=25)
0.02731458 West_Wirginia(n=43)
0.02747378 Kentucky(n=65)
0.02750250 Virginia(n=87)
0.02759561 Delaware(n=9)
0.02775098 North_Carolina(n=74)
0.02789118 California(n=60)
0.02799442 South_Carolina(n=52)
0.02823704 Oklahoma(n=27)
0.02825572 Tennessee(n=47)
0.02836015 Florida(n=28)
0.02836046 Maine(n=30)
0.02842817 Georgia(n=50)
0.02849008 Alabama(n=73)
0.02889684 Utah(n=52)
0.02892171 Washington(n=25)
0.02892297 Louisiana(n=97)
0.02902930 Texas(n=37)
0.02938902 Kansas(n=20)
0.02952763 Colorado(n=5)
0.02955807 Montana(n=5)
0.02958689 Rhode_Island(n=14)

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0248% / 0.02480016
71.5 Arizona(n=5)
23.0 Louisiana(n=97)
5.5 New_Mexico(n=2)


Compare to top ten G25 modern averages:

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02110388 French_Brittany
0.02232377 Welsh
0.02363992 English_Cornwall
0.02388696 English
0.02540987 Dutch
0.02573046 Scottish
0.02574029 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02580481 BelgianB
0.02636155 Irish
0.02720936 Orcadian

gixajo
03-07-2026, 09:03 AM
G25 simulated from K13 and K15 are grotesquely inaccurate.

Only K36 produces simulations that are relatively close to real coordinates.

Maybe, but the difference among them is not that much.

gixajo
03-07-2026, 09:07 AM
I remember very vividly from all the way back in 2022 when simulation tools were created the experiments had shown that K36 sims deviate the least on average.

I made simulated G25 coordinates based on K13, K15 etc. well before those online tools appeared.;)

Defcon2
03-07-2026, 09:36 AM
Maybe, but the difference among them is not that much.

I created simulated coordinates, what do you think? There is quite a difference, but they also have similarities.

https://i.imgur.com/K6s9Kgt.png

Distances:


Distance to: Defcon2_K13
0.01595682 Spanish_Andalucia
0.01790920 Portuguese
0.01817493 Spanish_Galicia
0.01865689 Spanish_Murcia
0.01929948 Spanish_Cantabria
0.01939998 Spanish_Extremadura
0.01940017 Spanish_Valencia
0.01943729 Spanish_Alacant
0.01957887 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.01967661 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.01996360 Spanish_Aragon
0.02110085 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02271800 Spanish_Pirineu
0.02300525 Spanish_Eivissa
0.02362746 Spanish_Castello
0.02371670 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.02472787 Spanish_Navarra
0.02487453 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.02501877 Spanish_Baleares
0.02508181 Spanish_Menorca
0.02509542 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.02623736 Spanish_Mallorca
0.02629121 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02654748 Spanish_Lleida
0.02666369 Spanish_Barcelones

Distance to: Defcon2_K15
0.01656676 Spanish_Andalucia
0.01702815 Portuguese
0.01782313 Spanish_Galicia
0.01877776 Spanish_Extremadura
0.01922112 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.02103485 Spanish_Alacant
0.02124310 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.02147433 Spanish_Cantabria
0.02199022 Spanish_Murcia
0.02227086 Spanish_Aragon
0.02232916 Spanish_Valencia
0.02391216 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02509893 Spanish_Eivissa
0.02558878 Spanish_Pirineu
0.02566532 Spanish_Navarra
0.02618703 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.02672417 Spanish_Castello
0.02699668 Spanish_Baleares
0.02707103 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02759460 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.02767162 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.02809616 Spanish_Menorca
0.02869992 Spanish_Girona
0.02874676 Spanish_Lleida
0.02882849 Spanish_Mallorca

Distance to: Defcon2_K36
0.02425524 Spanish_Andalucia
0.02569265 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.02598840 Portuguese
0.02604315 Spanish_Cantabria
0.02642722 Spanish_Aragon
0.02679567 Spanish_Extremadura
0.02696571 Spanish_Galicia
0.02712189 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.02719879 Spanish_Alacant
0.02732842 Spanish_Murcia
0.02778054 Spanish_Valencia
0.02828539 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.02832505 Spanish_Pirineu
0.02992777 Spanish_Castello
0.03025174 Spanish_Cataluna
0.03038169 Spanish_Navarra
0.03040653 Spanish_Menorca
0.03058851 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03083713 Spanish_Baleares
0.03095674 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03233282 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03240760 Spanish_Burgos
0.03328990 Spanish_Lleida
0.03380831 Spanish_Girona
0.03393750 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona

Distance to: Defcon2_scaled
0.02910482 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.03060709 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03207127 Spanish_Murcia
0.03254575 Portuguese
0.03321373 Spanish_Extremadura
0.03357220 Spanish_Galicia
0.03396093 Spanish_Asturias
0.03519859 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03564592 Spanish_Valencia
0.03572437 Spanish_Aragon
0.03575522 Spanish_Alacant
0.03579735 Spanish_Menorca
0.03637562 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03689185 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03726846 Spanish_Baleares
0.03763305 Spanish_Cataluna
0.03918692 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03940781 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04021333 Spanish_Barcelones
0.04023845 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04029475 Spanish_Canarias
0.04040939 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04043416 Spanish_Lleida
0.04043550 Spanish_Navarra
0.04049903 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona

Marena
03-07-2026, 10:08 AM
I created simulated coordinates, what do you think? There is quite a difference, but they also have similarities.

It looks like in your case K36 is less accurate, defying the general trend.

For the cleanest experiment you need to put real coordinates in "TARGET", put all simulations in "SOURCE" and then simply run "DISTANCE".

celticdragongod
03-07-2026, 11:27 AM
Distance to: CDG
4.12811095 New_Hampshire_White(n=14)
4.27693816 Oregon_White(n=18)
5.15911814 Alabama_White(n=73)
5.30883226 Utah_White_with_CEU_1KGP(n=90)
5.32390834 North_Carolina_White(n=102)
5.32787012 Kansas_White(n=20)
5.49937269 Idaho_White(n=12)
5.52865264 Mississippi_White(n=54)
5.64098396 Georgia_White(n=96)
5.65653604 Indiana_White(n=57)
5.79798241 Virginia_White(n=87)
5.80597106 Texas_White(n=97)
5.83108052 South_Carolina_White(n=52)
5.83234087 Tennessee_White(n=95)
5.84011130 Iowa_White(n=34)
5.84516039 Utah_White(n=29)
6.11210275 Missouri_White(n=59)
6.14290648 Kentucky_White(n=130)
6.26037539 Arkansas_White(n=40)
6.26842085 West_Virginia_White(n=43)
6.28088370 Oklahoma_White(n=27)
6.28571396 Maine_White(n=30)
6.33817797 South_Dakota_White(n=6)
6.41802929 Ohio_White(n=100)
6.45420793 Nebraska_White(n=24)

Target: CDG
Distance: 335.5781% / 3.35578144
64.0 Utah_White_with_CEU_1KGP(n=90)
20.4 North_Dakota_White(n=10)
15.6 New_Hampshire_White(n=14)

Defcon2
03-07-2026, 12:08 PM
It looks like in your case K36 is less accurate, defying the general trend.

For the cleanest experiment you need to put real coordinates in "TARGET", put all simulations in "SOURCE" and then simply run "DISTANCE".

Distance to: Defcon2_scaled
0.02712876 Defcon2_K15
0.02756935 Defcon2_K13
0.03218141 Defcon2_K36

Fistora
03-07-2026, 12:28 PM
I noticed in several cases that the simulated k13 and k15 samples from Slavic-origin countries are northwest drifted compared to their g25. However, for people from Western Europe, this is not clear-cut - often k13 or k15 match well with G25.

gixajo
03-07-2026, 12:39 PM
I created simulated coordinates, what do you think? There is quite a difference, but they also have similarities.


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Take the average of all of them, except for the actual coordinates of G25, and that's it. They all have the same value in reality.;)

gixajo
03-07-2026, 12:43 PM
It looks like in your case K36 is less accurate, defying the general trend.

For the cleanest experiment you need to put real coordinates in "TARGET", put all simulations in "SOURCE" and then simply run "DISTANCE".

We'd also need to see how they plot on a PCA, and the distance list for each one.

That is, if we consider accuracy as "more similar to G25 official coordinates" and not as better representing our reality, although that's another debate.

rothaer
03-07-2026, 07:05 PM
Distance to: rothaer
6.34376071 North_Dakota_White(n=10)
8.24706008 Wisconsin_White(n=65)
8.99057840 Michigan_White(n=72)
9.97088261 Minnesota_White(n=27)
11.19770066 Illinois_White(n=107)
12.57333687 Maryland_White(n=37)
12.85830471 Connecticut_White(n=29)
13.38817762 Pennsylvania_White(n=179)
14.06932834 South_Dakota_White(n=6)
14.69721402 Nebraska_White(n=24)
14.83357678 Ohio_White(n=100)
15.25494018 Massachusetts_White(n=82)
15.29827441 New_Hampshire_White(n=14)
15.34464728 Idaho_White(n=12)
15.43820262 Washington_White(n=25)
15.56547140 New_Mexico_White(n=2)
15.73163691 Iowa_White(n=34)
15.74285235 Montana_White(n=5)
15.74392581 California_White(n=60)
15.79685095 Indiana_White(n=57)
15.90328582 Kansas_White(n=20)
15.91179751 Oregon_White(n=18)
16.02346717 New_York_White(n=175)
16.04506778 Florida_White(n=28)
16.40679128 Texas_White(n=97)
16.54101267 Colorado_White(n=5)
16.54215524 Missouri_White(n=59)
16.62416915 South_Carolina_White(n=52)
16.82739730 Tennessee_White(n=95)
16.87766572 New_Jersey_White(n=30)
16.88270713 West_Virginia_White(n=43)
16.88795429 Oklahoma_White(n=27)
16.89659433 Virginia_White(n=87)
16.91953309 Alabama_White(n=73)
16.98880808 Arkansas_White(n=40)
17.14558544 Maine_White(n=30)
17.17490902 Rhode_Island_White(n=14)
17.25072462 Vermont_White(n=5)
17.28406781 Kentucky_White(n=130)
17.30595851 Georgia_White(n=96)
17.42123130 Mississippi_White(n=54)
17.45326044 North_Carolina_White(n=102)
17.50407952 Utah_White(n=29)
18.10617022 Wyoming_White(n=5)
18.19513122 Louisiana_White(n=97)
18.20031044 Delaware_White(n=9)
18.45014092 Arizona_White(n=5)
18.86448515 Utah_White_with_CEU_1KGP(n=90)

Peterski
03-07-2026, 09:39 PM
I added Native American compatibility to the datasheet.

bc76
03-07-2026, 10:40 PM
Target: bc76
Distance: 324.0597% / 3.24059685
80.4 Utah_White_with_CEU_1KGP(n=90)
12.0 Minnesota_White(n=27)
6.6 North_Dakota_White(n=10)
1.0 Wisconsin_White(n=65)

Distance to: bc76
3.84007812 Oregon_White(n=18)
3.99097732 Utah_White_with_CEU_1KGP(n=90)
4.29595158 Mississippi_White(n=54)
4.35369958 Alabama_White(n=73)
4.36567291 Georgia_White(n=96)
4.36986270 Utah_White(n=29)
4.42818247 North_Carolina_White(n=102)
4.55733475 Arkansas_White(n=40)
4.65030107 New_Hampshire_White(n=14)
4.74298429 Kentucky_White(n=130)
4.76288778 Idaho_White(n=12)
4.82008299 Indiana_White(n=57)
4.85004124 South_Carolina_White(n=52)
4.85056698 Tennessee_White(n=95)
4.97099588 Maine_White(n=30)
5.02595265 Virginia_White(n=87)
5.04227131 Texas_White(n=97)
5.06174871 Iowa_White(n=34)
5.13027290 Oklahoma_White(n=27)
5.19640260 Colorado_White(n=5)
5.21094041 West_Virginia_White(n=43)
5.45270575 Missouri_White(n=59)
5.62138773 Delaware_White(n=9)
5.73600907 Arizona_White(n=5)
5.80292168 Wyoming_White(n=5)
5.80324047 Nebraska_White(n=24)
5.81477429 Kansas_White(n=20)
6.37687227 Florida_White(n=28)
6.40682449 Washington_White(n=25)
6.71842988 Ohio_White(n=100)
6.92883107 South_Dakota_White(n=6)
6.94771905 Vermont_White(n=5)
7.23435553 California_White(n=60)
7.37229272 Maryland_White(n=37)
7.38918805 Montana_White(n=5)
8.20413310 Minnesota_White(n=27)
8.24361571 Illinois_White(n=107)
8.29684277 Rhode_Island_White(n=14)
8.43828182 Pennsylvania_White(n=179)
8.53986534 Massachusetts_White(n=82)
9.84796933 Wisconsin_White(n=65)
10.34515829 Louisiana_White(n=97)
10.43009108 Michigan_White(n=72)
12.25413808 Connecticut_White(n=29)
12.63513356 New_York_White(n=175)
14.34930312 New_Jersey_White(n=30)
15.07986074 North_Dakota_White(n=10)
16.90182239 New_Mexico_White(n=2)
75.81562306 Inuit(n=6)
78.31547165 Ottawa(n=2)
79.39689855 Chippewa(n=4)
82.09220060 Ojibwe(n=2)
82.82218724 Cree(n=2)
82.83613523 Chipewyan(n=9)
82.97931549 Yellowknives(n=2)
83.80909139 Gwitchin(n=1)
84.32665059 Saulteaux(n=1)
84.56514116 Ponca(n=1)
84.95365030 Shawnee(n=1)
87.20753637 Tulalip(n=1)
87.96461789 Creek(n=2)
88.17415494 Sioux(n=21)
88.24065390 Anishinaabe(n=2)
88.77144811 MHA_Nation(n=6)
89.30573554 Aleut(n=3)
89.43195178 Dene(n=10)
89.70397929 Inupiat(n=4)
89.73094338 Assiniboine(n=1)
90.67463758 Paiute_Shoshone(n=1)
90.98314294 Navajo(n=17)
91.82406221 Hopi(n=6)
91.90448574 Crow(n=1)
93.71841068 Choctaw(n=9)

Peterski
03-08-2026, 05:38 PM
Distance to: rothaer
6.34376071 North_Dakota_White(n=10)
8.24706008 Wisconsin_White(n=65)
8.99057840 Michigan_White(n=72)
9.97088261 Minnesota_White(n=27)
11.19770066 Illinois_White(n=107)
12.57333687 Maryland_White(n=37)
12.85830471 Connecticut_White(n=29)
13.38817762 Pennsylvania_White(n=179)
14.06932834 South_Dakota_White(n=6)
14.69721402 Nebraska_White(n=24)
14.83357678 Ohio_White(n=100)
15.25494018 Massachusetts_White(n=82)
15.29827441 New_Hampshire_White(n=14)
15.34464728 Idaho_White(n=12)
15.43820262 Washington_White(n=25)
15.56547140 New_Mexico_White(n=2)
15.73163691 Iowa_White(n=34)
15.74285235 Montana_White(n=5)
15.74392581 California_White(n=60)
15.79685095 Indiana_White(n=57)
15.90328582 Kansas_White(n=20)
15.91179751 Oregon_White(n=18)
16.02346717 New_York_White(n=175)
16.04506778 Florida_White(n=28)
16.40679128 Texas_White(n=97)
16.54101267 Colorado_White(n=5)
16.54215524 Missouri_White(n=59)
16.62416915 South_Carolina_White(n=52)
16.82739730 Tennessee_White(n=95)
16.87766572 New_Jersey_White(n=30)
16.88270713 West_Virginia_White(n=43)
16.88795429 Oklahoma_White(n=27)
16.89659433 Virginia_White(n=87)
16.91953309 Alabama_White(n=73)
16.98880808 Arkansas_White(n=40)
17.14558544 Maine_White(n=30)
17.17490902 Rhode_Island_White(n=14)
17.25072462 Vermont_White(n=5)
17.28406781 Kentucky_White(n=130)
17.30595851 Georgia_White(n=96)
17.42123130 Mississippi_White(n=54)
17.45326044 North_Carolina_White(n=102)
17.50407952 Utah_White(n=29)
18.10617022 Wyoming_White(n=5)
18.19513122 Louisiana_White(n=97)
18.20031044 Delaware_White(n=9)
18.45014092 Arizona_White(n=5)
18.86448515 Utah_White_with_CEU_1KGP(n=90)

All the ones with Slavic admixture on top! :)

I wonder how much of it is from Slavic immigration, and how much from East German immigration?

Highwayman
03-08-2026, 06:23 PM
From ChatGPT:


1. The Core Genetic Profile of the Southern / Appalachian States

Look at states that were closest to you:
• Virginia
• Kentucky
• Tennessee
• West Virginia
• South Carolina
• Missouri

Now look at their closest European groups:

State - Closest ancestry

Virginia - Southwest English
Kentucky - Southwest English
Tennessee - Southwest English
West Virginia - Southwest English
South Carolina - Southwest English
Missouri - Southwest English

Second place in almost every one:
• Southeast English

Third:
• Irish
• West Scottish

This is extremely consistent.

What that means

These states genetically resemble populations from:
• Southwest England
• Southeast England
• with smaller Irish / Scottish influence

That combination is exactly the colonial English + Ulster Scots mix that populated the American frontier.



2. Why Southwest English Shows Up So Strongly

Many Americans assume Appalachian ancestry = Scottish.

But genetically the biggest contributor was actually:

Southwest England

Especially from:

• Devon
• Cornwall
• Somerset
• Dorset

These regions supplied huge numbers of early settlers to:
• Virginia
• Maryland
• North Carolina
• the Chesapeake

Later their descendants moved inland into:
• Kentucky
• Tennessee
• Missouri

Which is precisely the migration corridor your genealogy follows.



3. The Dutch Signal

You’ll notice something interesting in many states:

North_Dutch
South_Dutch

appear frequently in the top 5.

This reflects two historical groups:

1️⃣ New York Dutch colonists

(New Netherland settlers)

2️⃣ German immigrants

who genetically overlap with Dutch populations

This is why Dutch shows up in:
• Pennsylvania
• Ohio
• Midwest states
• California

Highwayman
03-08-2026, 06:25 PM
7. The Most Interesting Outlier: Utah

This one stands out:

Utah
1.62 Irish
1.83 Southeast English
2.00 West Scottish


Utah reflects Mormon pioneer ancestry, which came largely from:
• England
• Scotland
• Ireland

So genetically it resembles British Isles populations directly.

Peterski
03-08-2026, 08:26 PM
I made a map of distance to English (for Utah I used the average without CEU 1KGP samples):

https://i.postimg.cc/2CpgDLNg/Distance-to-English.png

https://i.postimg.cc/2CpgDLNg/Distance-to-English.png

Peterski
03-08-2026, 09:12 PM
^^^
For comparison self-reported English ancestry in the 1980 census:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Map_of_English_ancestry_in_the_U.S._and_Canada.png